Official EB X M: Pirates of the Caribbean On Stranger Tides Jack Sparrow

[Rorywan]

Well as far as I can tell, the EB headshots are the final production heads (What you get in the box).

The HT image is still a proto (Not what you get in the box). It doesn't look like a production paint job to me.

So we cannot judge fairly yet.
Personally I love both. I just hope that the HT version doesn't lose too much from what we see above.

[Silasya77]

Yeah it's defo not exactly the production sculpt, so we'll just have to cross our fingers. Judging from HT's past though, I wouldn't be too worried.

[RIDDICK]

More pursed lips... narrower face... Minute changes, but I can see em :dunno


And I can see different lighting and shadows on the pics of :exactly: the same headsculpt

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv262/RIDDICK0911/PotC/JSparrow/compjs.jpg












I just hope that the HT version doesn't lose too much from what we see above.

OH YEAAAAAH!

[Silasya77]

Lips still look more pursed/Depp-ish. I don't know what it is, though. As long as it's not changed, we're all happy. :exactly:

[dominishin]

It'll come out the same. It's how people photograph their figures that makes all the difference. I'm fully expecting the little *********** (thank nam for this term) jumping out and crying about the "changed" head sculpt when initial (____ty) pics arrive.

[Rorywan]

It'll come out the same. It's how people photograph their figures that makes all the difference. I'm fully expecting the little *********** (thank nam for this term) jumping out and crying about the "changed" head sculpt when initial (____ty) pics arrive.

HT change their proto-production sculpts all the time.
Sometimes for the better sometimes not.

How do you know they won't change this?
Psychic abilities? Crystal Ball?

And to quote Nam again, wrong thread newb.
This is the EB thread.

[jonny88]

And I can see different lighting and shadows on the pics of :exactly: the same headsculpt

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv262/RIDDICK0911/PotC/JSparrow/compjs.jpg

I still say his upper lip area still looks like it's pushed in slightly.

[Calcifer]

The eyebrows were definitely tweaked, look at his right eyebrow( our left) look where it meets the smaller of the two x marks, more towards the top of the upper x,now look at the toyshow pic the eyebrow has been curved downwards slightly and it now meets the lover half of the upper x mark.

[RIDDICK]

The eyebrows were definitely tweaked, look at his right eyebrow...

EPIC! Thk u for an extra year of life :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

[Monger]

Wow I love the Enterbay sculpt this time. It is fantastic. If only the figure wasn't so expensive.

[RIDDICK]

Wow I love the Enterbay sculpt this time. It is fantastic. If only the figure wasn't so awkward, poor featured and expensive.

Fixd :monkey2:monkey2:monkey2

[Captain Britain]

Is this a standard Medicom body (plus voice feature)? I wonder if it will look out of scale with the HT head and outfit? (Obviously it's smaller scale but sometimes these things work out). It's not just the voice feature that I'd like but I really like the Medi body, scale apart (about the only thing I do like about Medicom - I've never understood why they're still in business).

[Gipetto0812]

It shouldn't be out of scale since the HT Sparrow is on a Slim TT and the new medi bodies are taller

[Captain Britain]

It shouldn't be out of scale since the HT Sparrow is on a Slim TT and the new medi bodies are taller

That's interesting - thanks.

[SAB]

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The plastic sculpted hair kinda ruins it for me...

his hair is way too dark for 'On Stranger Tides'.
His hair had a blonde through it in that movie - which was present in the EB proto they showed.

[JosephCPR]

I really don't think the likeness on this one is very good

[Rorywan]

I think it looks fantastic, but I will reserve judgement until I have it inhand.

:)

[Captain Britain]

I think it looks fantastic, but I will reserve judgement until I have it inhand.

:)

It looks fantastically lifelike, but not sure about the likeness - very close but now it's competing against HT, not so much.

[Rorywan]

I actually love both. I think HT is the winner especially with such an amazing package, but I still have some love for this.

[RagingBull]

I actually love both. I think HT is the winner especially with such an amazing package, but I still have some love for this.

Your buying both Rorywan? I think the UU Sculpt looks great but I can only afford one so it has to be HT. Looking forward to seeing some comparison shots of the two versions.

[Captain Britain]

Your buying both Rorywan? I think the UU Sculpt looks great but I can only afford one so it has to be HT. Looking forward to seeing some comparison shots of the two versions.

Yeah, me too!

[Rorywan]

I will definitely post pics when I get them.
I have a feeling this UU jack might be delayed a while longer, we shall see! Paid for it a while back so I should have it pretty soon after release.

I should have HT Jack this week.
:)

[bandito]

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[Gipetto0812]

looks pretty good there tbh. Hair is still the wrong color

doesn't look so "orange" in this pic too

[viezure]

Looks great. I'm actually confused which sparrow (ht or eb) has the better likeness :D

Still have ht jack already shipped from hk though :yess:

[EVILFACE]

Looks great. I'm actually confused which sparrow (ht or eb) has the better likeness :D

If you are a HT fanboy you will think the HT is better.

If you are a Medi fangirl you will think the Medi is better.

[Leesy84]

If you are a HT fanboy you will think the HT is better.

If you are a Medi fangirl you will think the Medi is better.

nah ht pisses all over eb with there jack look at my pics ive just posted in hand

[Shep]

Although the Hot Toys likeness on the smirking sculpt is great, I think this sculpt just edges it... Best Depp likeness imo.

[Rorywan]

If you are a HT fanboy you will think the HT is better.

If you are a Medi fangirl you will think the Medi is better.

What if you like both? Just cause you like this doesn't make you either a HT hater or a Medi fanboy.

:dunno

[EVILFACE]

Are you new????

Here you can't like both. One is clearly inferior. Choose.

[Rorywan]

Are you new????

Here you can't like both. One is clearly inferior. Choose.

:rotfl:lol:lol:lol

[Leesy84]

Although the Hot Toys likeness on the smirking sculpt is great, I think this sculpt just edges it... Best Depp likeness imo.

no way, the head is far to rounded, depp has those cheekbones check my in hand pics of hts jack

[viezure]

QUICK EVERYONE, CHECK LEESY'S IN HAND PICS :panic:

[Rorywan]

QUICK EVERYONE, CHECK LEESY'S IN HAND PICS :panic:

I don't want to.

[Shep]

I still stand by my statement...This has a better likeness.

[viezure]

I don't want to.

B.. but you have to.

[Leesy84]

B.. but you have to.

wow what a bunch of gimps on here sorry for posting some pics a thought thats what you do on here, you know to give ppl different views....my bad

[Captain Britain]

no way, the head is far to rounded, depp has those cheekbones check my in hand pics of hts jack

Oh, have you got some in hand pics? I didn't know.

[Rorywan]

B.. but you have to.


I don't.

wow what a bunch of gimps on here sorry for posting some pics a thought thats what you do on here, you know to give ppl different views....my bad

..reported.
:mad:

[Leesy84]

I don't.



..reported.
:mad:

lol ok, grow up dude reported lol ive been getting sarcy comments ever since i posted some pics, i thought thats what ppl do put up pics on here, yeah i apologise for posting them in the wrong place but jesus string me up ppl

[Rorywan]

lol ok, grow up dude reported lol ive been getting sarcy comments ever since i posted some pics, i thought thats what ppl do put up pics on here, yeah i apologise for posting them in the wrong place but jesus string me up ppl

Leesy, we are only having a laugh with you.:peace

[Captain Britain]

Leesy, we are only having a laugh with you.:peace

Ditto, I loved your pics as I said in the other thread - it's always really useful to see pics like yours as a guide to what the fig will look like in hand. And thanks for the recommendation on TonyCheung, I might try him next time.

[Leesy84]

Leesy, we are only having a laugh with you.:peace

no problem dude sorry for that comment, guess i was just excited that ive got this ht figure its awesome lol....still looking to mod my leon beanie lol bit scared to touch it tho lol

[Leesy84]

Ditto, I loved your pics as I said in the other thread - it's always really useful to see pics like yours as a guide to what the fig will look like in hand. And thanks for the recommendation on TonyCheung, I might try him next time.

yeh mate hes awesome got the hot toys potc bag as well which is a nice touch, hes really fast to

[Captain Britain]

Are there any English specs for this figure? And does anyone know if the hair on this is plastic or real hair from the bandana down? Because that would make it a lot more interesting to me.

[EXOTICLEX]

if anybody wants to sell their Toy Hunters bag just PM me....

[EXOTICLEX]

oops wrong thread.

[Bunaldinho]

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Source: http://weibo.com/enterbaybill

[dominishin]

Yeah these new pics aren't really helping.

[Captain Britain]

I didn't know Brad Pitt was taking over from Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow.

[Kuzeh]

Are you guys crazy??
It looks great!! :dunno

[neo]

Ahah yeah! The painting of the production is not great but with a good painting it will be a masterpiece! Easily

[dominishin]

The paint is fine...

It's his eyes and the shape of the top of his head and how that bandanna is sitting.

[Balrog]

http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/69464edegw1dmxmo3f52zj.jpg

Looks like Depp, cool!

Then...



http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/69464edegw1dmxmjkej91j.jpg

BAM John Mayer :lecture

[RIDDICK]

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:monkey3

[Gipetto0812]

Man I think it looks great in the latest pics. I do think that there's something off about the shape of the upper part of the head, but the face is totally Depp

[Gipetto0812]

http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv262/RIDDICK0911/PotC/JSparrow/lol_fhtuutired.gif


sorry Riddick but your manip (the one on the left) looks terrible and nothing like Johnny Depp. Maybe I you also gave it the EB nose then it might look better but the face looks too long there

[RIDDICK]

the face looks too long there

Yeah you're right.
Well my eyes are stuck together and hands are shaking all bcoz of the third sleepless night.

HELP MEEEE :lol:monkey2

[Gipetto0812]

:lol

I know the feeling man. I was in the same boat last week.

[Darkseed]

I like the cloth bandana :monkey1

[Captain Britain]

The eyes look too innocent.

[eighthsamurai]

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/69464edegw1dmxmjkej91j.jpg


this guy won't be smiling when he sees what deuce bigalow did to his fish tank!

[jayveeeusebio]

this guy won't be smiling when he sees what deuce bigalow did to his fish tank!

:lol Yeah, he does resembles this. :hi5:

[jayveeeusebio]

http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/69464edegw1dmxmkon4z4j.jpg

I don't but something a little bit off on this EB version. Probably, the smirk ain't enough to resemble Jack we know or the eyes. :cuckoo:

[tys1977]

And thanks for the recommendation on TonyCheung, I might try him next time.

Everyone is entitled to there opinion and some folks have most likely had good transactions but be careful mate,that name rings a bell from a while back on OSW

http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/cell-block-6-bad-trades/91220-bad-ebayer-tonycheung1965.html

[JosephCPR]

I don't but something a little bit off on this EB version. Probably, the smirk ain't enough to resemble Jack we know or the eyes. :cuckoo:



I agree something is off. I mean, we can't deny it is a very good sculpt and quite a good likeness, but compared to HT Jack, I don't know something looks off with this one. I think it might be the eyes, you are right.

[Silasya77]

Good lord that bandana needs some patterning, too.

[jayveeeusebio]

I agree something is off. I mean, we can't deny it is a very good sculpt and quite a good likeness, but compared to HT Jack, I don't know something looks off with this one. I think it might be the eyes, you are right.

:duff

will you be buying this version Joseph?

[JosephCPR]

:duff

will you be buying this version Joseph?

Of course not. HT Jack is a far better choice IMO

[MaulFan]

So is no one photographing this thing other than the head to compare with HT. I'd like to see shots of the whole figure, granted, it seems very much like the old Medicom Jack with some new parts and all, but just curious, always up for photos of alternate Sparrows. I'd get this in addition to HT if it weren't so pricey.

[Rock83]

This one has a better likeness than Ht imo.HT is not bad but the smirk was poorly done while this EB one got it alot better.

[Captain Britain]

This one has a better likeness than Ht imo.HT is not bad but the smirk was poorly done while this EB one got it alot better.

I guess the smirk is kind of like Depp's smirk but the top half of the face looks nothing like him. So FAIL, basically.

[dominishin]

When half his face looks like someone else... well... I would consider that poorly done also.

[jayveeeusebio]

Of course not. HT Jack is a far better choice IMO

:exactly: :lecture

[chrisdeeds]

No doubt about it...sorry EB!

[Hydeous]

This one has a better likeness than Ht imo.HT is not bad but the smirk was poorly done while this EB one got it alot better.

I agree.

However, the whole package falls short when compared to HT's. Not to mention the price.

[chrisdeeds]

I still do like the face, but the fabric doesnt look as good!

[mr.fan]

This one has a better likeness than Ht imo.HT is not bad but the smirk was poorly done while this EB one got it alot better.

wow nooo way how do you see that?

[solidsnake_84]

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/69464edejw1dndp2e455ij.jpg

[Leesy84]

that looks bad how movie inaccurate can you get with his outfit ? wheres the weathering ? hot toys win for me

[SwedishHeat]

Hmm, looks like they recycled the old fuzzy Medicom coat and those hard plastic boots. Medicom's 'classic' stylings mixed with EB's updated head and paint is not a good match.

Hard plastic boots are one of my biggest pet peeves in 1/6 these days. That was one the changes I loved the most about the DX, I switched my old MMS wtih Newline pirate boots, and it made such a difference. Didn't affect the height much, but I love that movement in the ankle.

[Rorywan]

The colors are ____ed up in that pic, lets wait and see some better pics. There is really no way they can top the HT outfit, but it's cool to see an alternate version of the same character. But at least the head and hands are in scale!

[MaulFan]

The only thing I can see recycled are the boots, maybe the white shirt. Whule not weathered, the coat is new, now has the light lining it should.

[bandito]

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[Captain Britain]

Just awful, the boots are from a kids toy, the HS is off and doesn't even capture the personality never mind the appearance, the hair looks like Chewbacca in a bandana, the waistcoat is way too bright and looks like something a gay man would wear to his best friend's wedding. Even the plastic tray signals its inferiority to the HT. Why did they bother? All we need now is to hear its not Depp's voice on the voicebox and this will be the most craptastic release ever. So the hands are the right size. So what? No one's ever going to look at it in the Detolf and say, hey, check out the scale on the hands! Cooooool!

EDIT: the 'gay man' comment is not meant to be homophobic! It's just a very bright and clean waistcoat for a pirate.

EDIT AGAIN - in the picture of the figure in its tray the head looks too big.

[Gipetto0812]

The only thing I can see recycled are the boots, maybe the white shirt. Whule not weathered, the coat is new, now has the light lining it should.

White shirt is definitely not recycled. The old medi shirt was an off white snd didn't have the tassels nor does it look to be made of the same material. You're correct about the jacket though. It's definitely new and looks nicer than the original medi jacket IMO.

But from what I can tell of what's been recycled are

Boots (soft plastic, not hard plastic)
Hat
Sword
Original flintlock (which is sadly inaccurate)
Compass (also terribly inaccurate)
And possibly the black wrist wrap

I'm liking the look of this figure though. Both the chalices and the ship in a bottle look better as well. But i will have to live vicariously through Rory's pics of his since I don't have the cash to get this one too

[Kuzeh]

It actually looks pretty good, though I prefer the HT one, the headsculpt and fabric bandana are great details on this one!
Nice job by Medi-EB :clap!

[ShortRound]

Trash, trash, trash, trash!

[Shep]

Still a superior headsculpt to Hot Toys' version...I agree though that the rest looks a little 'toyish'...Nice piece though and I'll be picking one up!

[MarfMaster]

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/69464edejw1dndp2e455ij.jpg

That is definitely LOL worthy :lol

[Terminator_Fan_Game]

Looks awesome but I like HTs Jack more.

[Rorywan]

It's bizarre, but I still want it. It's a bit Pirates of Penzance...

[Leesy84]

Still a superior headsculpt to Hot Toys' version...I agree though that the rest looks a little 'toyish'...Nice piece though and I'll be picking one up!

still cant see how ppl can say this is a superior headsculpt to the hot toys jack, hot toys jack is bang on johnny depp in both scuplts, the out fit is terrible, i to really dont know why they bothered, still Jack Bauer headscuplt is there best for me

[Snake Eater]

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Looks pretty good to me.

[dominishin]

Everything is about a step down.

Packaging, sword, guns, clothing, and it probably even has the trademark "shiny EB hands".

Why the hell are their hands so shiny and cheap looking all of the time??

[Wor-Gar]

Coat looks way short. Besides other issues.

I love how HT basically did the same expression just to say FU to EB again.

[Restaurajones]

I do not understand how people can spend $350 on this when the Ht version comes with a great quality outfit very detailed, many accesories and is worth much less :slap

[TeXaZMsM87]

Yeah, I'd say just about everything on the HTs version is far superior and is a hell of a lot cheaper.

[Rorywan]

All of that is true, but I still want it. The facial hair is better.

[marker2037]

Only thing I like are the things that EB provided. Head and bandana.

The medicom portion is junk. Something is wrong with that company when they can put out such a nice Boba Fett yet be so terrible in other figures/areas. I feel like everything they do is only suitable to cartoons/cartoony figures...I guess Boba is cartoony :dunno

[Restaurajones]

All of that is true, but I still want it. The facial hair is better.

But then the best solution would be to buy just the head on ebay instead the whole thing, isn´t it?

[SAB]

But you get the goblets with this jack ! = winning !

:D

[MaulFan]

EB's hair is more accurrate to OST than HT, Jack's hair volume was thinner than in 1-3, the HT looks like 1-3 volume but OST style. I like the HT stylization for my figure but I give EB credit.

[dominishin]

Not sure about that... the shape of EB's head top looks awkward/off.

[Captain Britain]

It's bizarre, but I still want it. It's a bit Pirates of Penzance...

Actually, I can kind of see that - it's like the action figure of a generic pirate that I wanted when I was seven, all cartoony and brightly coloured. The only thing I like is the fabric scarf, but the hair looks massive underneath.

[MaulFan]

Not sure about that... the shape of EB's head top looks awkward/off.

It looks a little strange at the top, but, Jack looked different in OST.

[Remy]

The eyes are throwing it off. If you crop off the eyes, it almost looks like a picture of JD. Before HT finally unveiled the smiling Jack, I was leaning towards this sculpt cause the proto definitely looks like Johnny but the paintjob on the eyes is way off now though.
I like the facial hair paintjob also cause it almost looks real. Almost wish they would have done the same quality of PERS for this figure.

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g402/Remy869/Sideshow%20posts/enterbayjack.jpg

[marker2037]

Good point Remy. You're right. Looks real right there.

[K.bowen]

ive got the medicom jack that came out years ago. they are the exact same boots, pretty lazy considering the pricetag

[Gipetto0812]

Coat looks way short. Besides other issues.

I love how HT basically did the same expression just to say FU to EB again.

I don't believe that. When HT revealed their smirking sculpt they stated how they went through many different ones and the production was the one that was chosen, by the licensor I believe. Which actually could explain why they both look similar. Whoever had the final say on the sculpts from EB and HT could be the same person and prefer that lind of Jack smirk; thus those sculpts being chosen to be produced. Could be a lie from HT about going through different sculpts, but I dont think it is seeing how the smirking sculpt was what kept delaying the figure

[MaulFan]

While undoubtedly, licensor approval was a factor in the final 2nd portait for the HT figure, given the past between HT and EB, I find it hard to imagine that their feud wasn't a factor. The licensor may have chosen that sculpt and HT's tale could be true, but how do we know they didn't submit 20 smirk heads and that was the particular one that got approved. We don't know what they submitted, but I think they've been clear about fighting with EB. Enterbay unveils their full figure and within days, HT adds that Jack will include the Pearl in bottle that EB shows off but HT didn't originally include and they announced Angelica way ahead with raw sculpt challices to also say, what the EB figure includes, we'll offer you. They've been trying to stick it to EB with Sparrow the whole time and I'm sure the smirk sculpt was part of that.

[jayveeeusebio]

The only good thing I like about this figure is the real bandana clothe & those chalice cups. The rest...'meh'

Btw, why's the vest colored blue? :cuckoo:

[Gipetto0812]

While undoubtedly, licensor approval was a factor in the final 2nd portait for the HT figure, given the past between HT and EB, I find it hard to imagine that their feud wasn't a factor. The licensor may have chosen that sculpt and HT's tale could be true, but how do we know they didn't submit 20 smirk heads and that was the particular one that got approved. We don't know what they submitted, but I think they've been clear about fighting with EB. Enterbay unveils their full figure and within days, HT adds that Jack will include the Pearl in bottle that EB shows off but HT didn't originally include and they announced Angelica way ahead with raw sculpt challices to also say, what the EB figure includes, we'll offer you. They've been trying to stick it to EB with Sparrow the whole time and I'm sure the smirk sculpt was part of that.

I agree with you. They're feud is undoubtedly evident and I'm not trying to be blind about it. I totally agree that HT have been trying to stick it to EB ever since the beginning of both figures initial announcement. but like you said, how do we know anything for sure? It the smiling sculpt could be another "FU" to from HT to EB like Wor-gar said, but I like to think of the positive over the negative. And while HT is an obvious bully to EB like after seeing how great the EB 1/4 T-800 came out, HT decides they want to do make 1/4 poseable figures. Fans probably didn't help much with constantly post the EB figure on HT Facebook page talking about how great the EB figure was over the 1/6 HT one. But at the same time, I want to see it as HT trying to make the best Jack Sparrow figure out there for the fans vs trying to just stump out EB. Just trying have a more positive reason thats for us, fans of Depp, POTC and/or collectors, than "they made this to out do EB again" if that makes any sense :)

[MaulFan]

I understand, it's just that after the Godfather battle, I feel like HT aggressively pursues their figure being praised over EB. I'm sure DX Jack was planned regardless of EB, but once EB details came out and fans reacted to certain things with a sort of wishe HT had done that attitude, I think their egos set in and they basically worked their figure to be just like EBs but have more so they could be declared a winner. And as you mentioned, the EB T-800 situation will undoubtedly result in a new 1/6 Terminator or. 1/4 scale HT one to regain dominance there. I get how you want to look at things and it's a good way, I just see clear signs of HT's need to outdo EB and feel that fuels certain actions more than any motive.

[EVILFACE]

Who's to say HT didn't already plan to make 1/4 figures before EB made their puffy Terminator?

[Rorywan]

I understand, it's just that after the Godfather battle, I feel like HT aggressively pursues their figure being praised over EB. I'm sure DX Jack was planned regardless of EB, but once EB details came out and fans reacted to certain things with a sort of wishe HT had done that attitude, I think their egos set in and they basically worked their figure to be just like EBs but have more so they could be declared a winner. And as you mentioned, the EB T-800 situation will undoubtedly result in a new 1/6 Terminator or. 1/4 scale HT one to regain dominance there. I get how you want to look at things and it's a good way, I just see clear signs of HT's need to outdo EB and feel that fuels certain actions more than any motive.

Yeah, like HT releasing pics of an as of yet imaginary, rubber Bruce Lee body just as EB were releasing theirs. EB must have been working on their 1/4 scale figures for ages. We have EB T2 in hand and seen 1/4 promo pics from TDK, what have we seen from HT? another thunder stealing announcement..."Oh, we are doing 1/4 scale as well!!!" And this Jack smirk to me at least is a EB rip off, that was the one thing that was highly praised from the EB promo pics.
It's just silly IMO, EB are obviously the smaller company, let them have their bread as well. There is obviously some real bad feeling between the owners of these companies. :dunno

[MaulFan]

The way I see it, the bad feelings are on HT's side, EB seems like they just want to have a place in the collecting world and with HT bullying them in 1/6, moved onto 1/4 but now HT is going after that. HT makes nice products but the EB feud and some of their customer treatment makes them look shady as a company.

[EVILFACE]

EB tried to be a bully as well. Blitzway showed their Scarface and then EB quicky told people they are making one too and didn't show anything for months.

[JosephCPR]

Hot Toys and Enterbay= Same Company :lecture Write that down.

[eighthsamurai]

EB tried to be a bully as well. Blitzway showed their Scarface and then EB quicky told people they are making one too and didn't show anything for months.

from what i know, EB had planned to release a scarface figure before blitzway announced theirs, so i don't think it was anything malicious. it's just EB's crappy pace that made it seem that way, and since they'd paid for the license already it made sense to announce.

as for HT... i've flogged that horse many times in the past and been berated for it - their actions on the surface appear to be vindictive. and even if their motives are completely clean, my view of them has changed to childish nasty _____es.

[Rorywan]

from what i know, EB had planned to release a scarface figure before blitzway announced theirs, so i don't think it was anything malicious. it's just EB's crappy pace that made it seem that way, and since they'd paid for the license already it made sense to announce.

as for HT... i've flogged that horse many times in the past and been berated for it - their actions on the surface appear to be vindictive. and even if their motives are completely clean, my view of them has changed to childish nasty _____es.

Agreed.:exactly:

[Butters]

I don't think it's surprising or particularly shameful that HT would attempt to undermine or put any of their competitors out of business.

EB could only ever be considered as a small thawn in HT side, but they are still fair game in the business world.

But to say one company is feuding with another is really pure speculation, we just don't have enough facts to say it's one way or another. :dunno

[eighthsamurai]

I don't think it's surprising or particularly shameful that HT would attempt to undermine or put any of their competitors out of business.

that depends on what kind of person you are.

But to say one company is feuding with another is really pure speculation, we just don't have enough facts to say it's one way or another. :dunno

that's true about a lot in life. but where you don't have all the facts, you can have an opinion based on the evidence you do have. you might not think HT are doing anything wrong ever, and that's up to you. the evidence says something else to me.

[Butters]

That's the nature and reality of big buisness, you're being naive if you think it's any other way. Any company that willingly gives an inch to their competitors is doomed and may as well close their doors now.

[eighthsamurai]

That's the nature and reality of big buisness, you're being naive if you think it's any other way. Any company that willingly gives an inch to their competitors is doomed and may as well close their doors now.

see, i've heard that argument and the naive comment time and time again, and it's starting to piss me off how people are missing the point. nobody is stupid enough to think howard and bill should be holding each other's dicks, singing songs and skipping down the road together. yes, competition is necessary. but the way you conduct yourself in that competition makes all the difference in your customers' perception. there's a difference between HT seeing EB's output and deciding to seek out even more lucrative licenses, investing in QC and R&D to improve their products, and them following the strategy they are now. the former works out better for their customers and eventually will put EB out of business in a positive way if that's what they want. alternatively, the two companies could co-exist, the 1/6 market could grow through their varied licenses and both could make a ____load of money. i don't see many other major markets in the world dominated by only one company, and the 1/6 market is still relatively young. so it's not really the nature of big business, is it?

instead, consumers get the same regurgitated licenses, QC issues, incomplete lines, poor customer service and this bullying perception. competition exists everywhere but it's rare to see one company so blatantly having a hard-on for another, mimicking their every move.

anyway, it's why i said it depends on what kind of person you are. you see it as naive, which i actually think is naive. it's why you and i would never get on if we met in person. different people, different opinions.

[Butters]

see, i've heard that argument and the naive comment time and time again, and it's starting to piss me off how people are missing the point. nobody is stupid enough to think howard and bill should be holding each other's dicks, singing songs and skipping down the road together. yes, competition is necessary. but the way you conduct yourself in that competition makes all the difference in your customers' perception. there's a difference between HT seeing EB's output and deciding to seek out even more lucrative licenses, investing in QC and R&D to improve their products, and them following the strategy they are now. the former works out better for their customers and eventually will put EB out of business in a positive way if that's what they want. alternatively, the two companies could co-exist, the 1/6 market could grow through their varied licenses and both could make a ____load of money. i don't see many other major markets in the world dominated by only one company, and the 1/6 market is still relatively young. so it's not really the nature of big business, is it?

instead, consumers get the same regurgitated licenses, QC issues, incomplete lines, poor customer service and this bullying perception. competition exists everywhere but it's rare to see one company so blatantly having a hard-on for another, mimicking their every move.

anyway, it's why i said it depends on what kind of person you are. you see it as naive, which i actually think is naive. it's why you and i would never get on if we met in person. different people, different opinions.

It's all he said, she said stuff, really... We aren't privy to all the facts of the matter, all we can do is give our opinions, but that doesn't make them facts. There's more to the world than HT and EB. There are many other 1/6 companys out there that manufacture figures, and many, many more that produce 1/6 parts and accesorys. HT is only considered to be number 1 because people buy their products, nobody is forcing people to do that. It's the consumers that decide a companys position and fate.

[DinoLast]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzdc33zc4cg
Squeezing a high end figure? Not sure if I would like to do that?

[COSMOSTARX]

that looks bad how movie inaccurate can you get with his outfit ? wheres the weathering ? hot toys win for me

There's not much weathering on the Hot Toys outfit as well. I guess that's inaccurate as well. Maybe we should add some sea salt.

[Rorywan]

I really, really, want that squeezey talking pirate doll. No, I'm serious, I can't wait to get it.:panic:

[Jokes & Bats]

Hmm I kinda like how it looks - but I'm not sure that all those phrases are the real Depp

[COSMOSTARX]

IMO Hot Toys Jack Sparrow plus some of the accessories from this set would be perfect haha.

[Captain Britain]

So is this out?

[Darth Madden]

I won't be a snob and call this one trash or garbage or anything like that since its actually a pretty dang nice figure quality wise... it just looks nothing like Depp.

[Captain Britain]

I won't be a snob and call this one trash or garbage or anything like that since its actually a pretty dang nice figure quality wise... it just looks nothing like Depp.

I don't think the tailoring is 'quality' but I do think it would be a great, fun figure to own... if it wasn't for the price. Even if it cost the same as HT folks would accept it but $350 for a piece with some recycled clothes from an old medi release...:slap

[Jokes & Bats]

It looks quite good - but maybe a little too vibrant in colour and a heavy rely on plastic elements which is a shame.

[Gipetto0812]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzdc33zc4cg
Squeezing a high end figure? Not sure if I would like to do that?
Thanks for the vid Dino! Nice to finally see/hear the talking feature.
Sounds more like a button that's beig pushed rather than squeezing the figure to make it talk. Sounds like phrases taken straight from the movies too which is good vs some random "sound a like" person saying the phrase. Pretty cool that there are some COTBP phrases too and not just OST
I really, really, want that squeezey talking pirate doll. No, I'm serious, I can't wait to get it.:panic:

me too! I don't care how childish folks may say a talking feature is. For me, that makes me wish I could get this figure even more now. If I can, and it's still available (which it probably will be) I'd definitely like to pic this figure up.

[COSMOSTARX]

How durable are Medicom stuff? EB only did the head and Medicom did the rest?

[Bardoon]

I actually like that headsculpt!

Too bad Medicom's poor tailoring with the suit (ugh, look at the ugly vest! The designs on it stand out waaay too much) and the fact the Medi-body is so delicate that the figure is just not worth it.

They couldn't even have the body look the same color as the "tanned" skin tone? Look at his pasty white neck.

[Gipetto0812]

How durable are Medicom stuff? EB only did the head and Medicom did the rest?

the newer medi bodies are quite durable. more so than their original body. I have the newest body from medi and I prefer it much more than a HT TT b/c it's much more poseable than a TT. I have the old medi Sparrow and the leg snapped quick. I purposely posed the heck out of the new body just in case it did break with the slightest touch like the old ones so i could return it before it was too late and to my happy surprise, the body withstood lots of crazy poses. Most are used to how easy the old bodies broke so now they're hesitant (rightfully so) about the new medi bodies but from my experience with the old and the new, the new is MUCH better. plus the new medi bodies fit HT hand pegs which is an added bonus

I actually like that headsculpt!

Too bad Medicom's poor tailoring with the suit (ugh, look at the ugly vest! The designs on it stand out waaay too much) and the fact the Medi-body is so delicate that the figure is just not worth it.



not so much fact for new medi bodies
read above :wink1:

White shirt is definitely not recycled. The old medi shirt was an off white snd didn't have the tassels nor does it look to be made of the same material. You're correct about the jacket though. It's definitely new and looks nicer than the original medi jacket IMO.

But from what I can tell of what's been recycled are

Boots (soft plastic, not hard plastic)
Hat
Sword
Original flintlock (which is sadly inaccurate)
Compass (also terribly inaccurate)
And possibly the black wrist wrap


EDIT: just looked at my old medi Jack's hat and the hat that comes with this figure is indeed different. so hat is not recycled

EDIT #2: pics of the box. It's no DX box, but still pretty nice when compared to most Medi boxes. at least there's lots of graphics and possible text which medi usually lacks when it comes to boxes

http://i1030.photobucket.com/albums/y366/gipetto0812/UUSparrowbox.jpg

[Captain Britain]

Have you got any larger versions of those pics Gipetto? Also, do you know if you can get the Hot Toys heads on this body?

[Jokes & Bats]

anymore pics?

[Captain Britain]

Seeing how basic the medi/ eb box is makes me almost nostalgic for when packaging like that was described as 'gorgeous'. The DX packaging is stellar but it's almost too much for a mere action figure (the box...the foam...).

[Gipetto0812]

Have you got any larger versions of those pics Gipetto? Also, do you know if you can get the Hot Toys heads on this body?
Unfortunately no (about more pics of the box). I just got that pic off of the enterby facebook page.

In regards to getting the HT head on this body, from what I've read, the HT neck ball neck joint will fit but you'd have to sand/file down the bottom ball that would connect to the neck so it can fit in the medi neck adapter. I've never tried this though as I haven't had a reason to so I'm not 100% sure. Also with this having a voice feature, this may be a slightly different design than the newer body (medi naked2 body) that I have.
Seeing how basic the medi/ eb box is makes me almost nostalgic for when packaging like that was described as 'gorgeous'. The DX packaging is stellar but it's almost too much for a mere action figure (the box...the foam...).

I have to agree. While I do love the elegance and overall presentation of the DX boxes (half the fun of a new figure is opening it IMO) they do have an almost overwhelming presence. Sometimes, simple packaging like this box is good enough for me.

[Blade3327]

Hmm I kinda like how it looks - but I'm not sure that all those phrases are the real Depp

Me neither. Some of them sound a little high-pitched and odd. Still Sparrow-ish, but I'd sooner have dropped the electronic gimmick to allow for a slightly lower price tag.

[Snake Eater]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzdc33zc4cg
Squeezing a high end figure? Not sure if I would like to do that?

I actually like it.

[kajobaldisimo]

good effort EB but HT wins this contest by a long shot.

people buying this over the DX, well, enjoy, good luck and never look back.

[jayveeeusebio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzdc33zc4cg
Squeezing a high end figure? Not sure if I would like to do that?

Cute! :ted I remember the good ol' iPod shuffle where you can't see or pick the songs you want and have to go thru all of them just to find it. :lol

No thanks! :wink1:

[Jokes & Bats]

I sort of like it

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6937/1111242032a1c09efa4c257.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/1111242032a1c09efa4c257.jpg/)

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4058/111023232075819c6919a18.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/111023232075819c6919a18.jpg/)

[jayveeeusebio]

I sort of like it

Planning to get one?

[Captain Britain]

I sort of like it


http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4058/111023232075819c6919a18.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/111023232075819c6919a18.jpg/)

Has any HS ever failed to capture a character's eyes as completely as this one?

[viezure]

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4058/111023232075819c6919a18.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/111023232075819c6919a18.jpg/)

This looks great, eyes and everything!

[Kuzeh]

Yep, the hyperbolic negative statements here are just ridiculous...
of course the figure could be better, but it's still a very nice figure...
you may not like the price, the voice features, etc.
But calling it garbage is ridiculous and pathetic...

[Captain Britain]

Way to kill discussion by labelling people's views as 'hyperbolically negative'. Unlike many people I like the talking feature and the brighter colours - they're fun - and I assume the high price is due to paying for Depp's voice, so it's justified, but the top half of the face looks nothing like Depp and that's just how many people see it. And I also accept that many people will feel differently from me and hate the cartoony appearance of the figure even though I like it.

[jayveeeusebio]

Way to kill discussion by labelling people's views as 'hyperbolically negative'. Unlike many people I like the talking feature and the brighter colours - they're fun - and I assume the high price is due to paying for Depp's voice, so it's justified, but the top half of the face looks nothing like Depp and that's just how many people see it. And I also accept that many people will feel differently from me and hate the cartoony appearance of the figure even though I like it.

Nah, then why is it that their Luke also comes w/ a hefty price tag as well? Wait, probably because of the light-up light saber? :cuckoo:

[MaulFan]

Granted it's through a video, but it didn't sound like Depp to me, just a good voice actor.

[Captain Britain]

Granted it's through a video, but it didn't sound like Depp to me, just a good voice actor.

That sucks if it's true don't the specs make it clear? That basically removes my only reason for buying this figure. Hell, I can do an impersonation of Depp.

BTW has anyone else noticed that the waistcoat is the same shade of blue as Postman Pat's uniform? He even has some gold patterning on it. Maybe Enterbay is bringing out a Postman Pat figure and the fabric for the waistcoat was left over from it?

[SAB]

I assume the high price is due to paying for Depp's voice, so it's justified,

:lol:lol:lol

[MaulFan]

That sucks if it's true don't the specs make it clear? That basically removes my only reason for buying this figure. Hell, I can do an impersonation of Depp.

BTW has anyone else noticed that the waistcoat is the same shade of blue as Postman Pat's uniform? He even has some gold patterning on it. Maybe Enterbay is bringing out a Postman Pat figure and the fabric for the waistcoat was left over from it?

Not sure where else specs can be found, but looking at Sideshow's site, it's listed as "Plays 13 Jack Sparrow sayings".

So nothing saying specifically that it's Depp's voice. Some of the lines do sound like it, but others not so much. In the video, "Parlay!" and "I'd be much obliged if you drop me off at my ship" don't sound like him, the others sound right from the movie.

[Monger]

The discussion was killed long ago, when nearly everyone who frequents this thread are the people solely buying the Hot Toys version of whom never had interest in this figure in the first place. It sure is fun trying to get excited for something when you have haters breathing down your neck. Seriously every positive comment is immediately criticized in this thread.

[PacMan3000]

I think this looks pretty damn good! But if it's still $300--simply too much money.

[jayveeeusebio]

Hell, I can do an impersonation of Depp.

Sample! Sample! Sample!

Make a short vid & we'll judge it. :D

[Captain Britain]

That sucks if it's true don't the specs make it clear? That basically removes my only reason for buying this figure. Hell, I can slur my words in a drunken Bristolian accent that sounds nothing like Depp.

BTW has anyone else noticed that the waistcoat is the same shade of blue as Postman Pat's uniform? He even has some gold patterning on it. Maybe Enterbay is bringing out a Postman Pat figure and the fabric for the waistcoat was left over from it?



Fixed that for me.

[Butters]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzdc33zc4cg
Squeezing a high end figure? Not sure if I would like to do that?


:rotfl

The last part sounds like he's saying: "Now if you'd be so kind, I'd be much obliged if you'll drop me in my ____." :slap:rotfl

[Captain Britain]

:rotfl

The last part sounds like he's saying: "Now if you'd be so kind, I'd be much obliged if you'll drop me in my ____." :slap:rotfl

Kind of appropriate for this figure.

[Monger]

Yeah all of the Ultimate Unison figures are really expensive so I imagine the added voices didn't alter the final price much at all. I wonder how these even sell. I know they all go on clearance with US sites like BBTS, but it is the Asian market that matters. Do people in Japan go crazy over the Yuusaku UU or the one from the SP Police drama? I can only wonder. Personally I really want both of those but BBTS had Yuusaku on sale when I didn't have the chance to get him :(

[RIDDICK]

No pics = no thread bumps

[jayveeeusebio]

No pics = no thread bumps

you just bumped it :lol

[Captain Britain]

No pics = no thread bumps

Thank you for that public service announcement, Officer Riddick of the Thread PD.

[Rzeznikk]

Nah, then why is it that their Luke also comes w/ a hefty price tag as well? Wait, probably because of the light-up light saber? :cuckoo:

Sorry to OT, but the HT Luke doesnt come with a light up saber. :(

[Gipetto0812]

Here's a vid at EB's shop with sparrow on display

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av_wgvMoclw&feature=related

Sorry to OT, but the HT Luke doesnt come with a light up saber. :(

think he was talking about the UU Luke not the HT DX Luke

[Rorywan]

I think that looks pretty good, nice to the head in proper scale to the body unlike the HT one. Pity about the crappy boots, I wonder what a hybrid between the two will look like?

[jayveeeusebio]

Sorry to OT, but the HT Luke doesnt come with a light up saber. :(


think he was talking about the UU Luke not the HT DX Luke

Yup, I'm talking about the UU version of Luke. :wink1:

[Rzeznikk]

Yup, I'm talking about the UU version of Luke. :wink1:

Oh! :slap Forgot about that one...

[jayveeeusebio]

Oh! :slap Forgot about that one...

No problem. :1-1:

[Agentofchaos]

I think that looks pretty good, nice to the head in proper scale to the body unlike the HT one. Pity about the crappy boots, I wonder what a hybrid between the two will look like?

A Medix Jack Sparrow would be interesting to see. I'm sure someone is going to come up with that combo hmmm..

[Frank]

Question is, would this Jack's hands scale better with the DX? It would probably be a bit tricky to get them to be compatible. I don't own any EB figs so I have no idea.

[Gipetto0812]

Well it's on the newer medi bodies and looks to have the hand beg style that would work with HT bodies. So the hands from this figure may work quite well with the HTDX

[Frank]

Well it's on the newer medi bodies and looks to have the hand beg style that would work with HT bodies. So the hands from this figure may work quite well with the HTDX

Cool. I'll definitely be up for snagging his parted out hands when he gets released.

[Rorywan]

But these hands will be just as big as the HT hands won't they?
I thought the problem with the HT scale was the head was way too small. If this is in correct scale (which it looks like it is) the hands could be just as large as HT's.
?

[Terminator_Fan_Game]

If anyones interested, Im making some custom diorama pieces and items for Jack -

http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4021661#post4021661

[jayveeeusebio]

If anyones interested, Im making some custom diorama pieces and items for Jack -

http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4021661#post4021661

They're lookin' great TFS esp. that map! :wink1: Good luck on your project man. :)

[Terminator_Fan_Game]

They're lookin' great TFS esp. that map! :wink1: Good luck on your project man. :)

Thank you J! Much appreciated my friend. Out of the map and the chest, Im probably more pleased with how the map turned out actually!:lol Its really quick and simple to make but just looks so cool! :)

[Gipetto0812]

But these hands will be just as big as the HT hands won't they?
I thought the problem with the HT scale was the head was way too small. If this is in correct scale (which it looks like it is) the hands could be just as large as HT's.
?

i haven't heard anything about the head being out of scale. You may be right though.

When I freaquented the DX Jack thread it seamed that the hands were what was being said to be out of scale. maybe it's both the head and hands :dunno haven't really been paying attention to the conversations going on in there

[Gipetto0812]

Link to some detail shots of this figures belts, hands and such.

The chalices look like they turned out nice

http://game.sina.com.hk/cgi-bin/nw/show.cgi/518/3/1/98576/1.html?t=1

[Rorywan]

Thanks for posting, looking pretty cool. Hands look to be a definite improvement. Can't wait for this!

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll97/rorywan/screen-capture-11-1.pnghttp://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll97/rorywan/screen-capture-10-1.pnghttp://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll97/rorywan/screen-capture-9-3.pnghttp://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll97/rorywan/screen-capture-8-2.png

[jayveeeusebio]

Whether it's from this set or from HT Angelica's, I need to get those chalices for my HT Jack. :panic:

[MxBxM]

Looks like not many people will get this figure. Was really looking forward to see a comparison witht he Hot Toys one.

[jayveeeusebio]

Looks like not many people will get this figure. Was really looking forward to see a comparison witht he Hot Toys one.

I'm sure you'll see a comparison pics of those two. Let's just wait..

[Jokes & Bats]

yeah would love some side by sides

[Rorywan]

I'm getting it so fear not, comparison pics will be posted!

[MxBxM]

I'm getting it so fear not, comparison pics will be posted!

Great.Looking forward to seeing them.:clap

[jayveeeusebio]

I'm getting it so fear not, comparison pics will be posted!

Rory saves the day! :yess:

:impatient:

[Terminator_Fan_Game]

Rory saves the day! :yess:

:impatient:

I knew he would! :yess:

[COSMOSTARX]

WTB chalices

[MaulFan]

WTB chalices

Would be nice if this figure were parted out, I question if HT's will ever see the light of day and they'd be nice to have with Jack.

[Gipetto0812]

New pics found from someone who posted on EBs Facebook

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/407896_221248024616405_100001936270990_504975_1797 648070_n.jpg?dl=1

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405268_221248077949733_100001936270990_504976_1544 564109_n.jpg?dl=1

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/381428_221248144616393_100001936270990_504979_2250 73263_n.jpg?dl=1

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/380399_221248221283052_100001936270990_504980_1389 646078_n.jpg?dl=1


http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/397240_221248281283046_100001936270990_504981_7378 91839_n.jpg?dl=1

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/382891_221248321283042_100001936270990_504982_3713 01685_n.jpg?dl=1


http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403823_221248357949705_100001936270990_504983_1068 51645_n.jpg?dl=1


http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/388517_221248411283033_100001936270990_504984_1477 120301_n.jpg?dl=1


http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/407375_221248444616363_100001936270990_504985_1047 171771_n.jpg?dl=1

[Jokes & Bats]

hmm oh dear

[COSMOSTARX]

I wonder what material the hat for this one is made of.

The DX Jack Sparrow hat feels pretty papery and cheap. -_-

[dominishin]

This hat looks plastic.

[ebor]

For those who want this great...

I personally think it looks like ***, esp. the paint aps, hat, clothes, HS

what is with the HASBROish painting on the shrunken head?

UGH!

[Rorywan]

Those pics are horrible. As if someone wanted to make it look as bad as possible. I will reserve judgement on the actual figure until I see some normal inhand pics.




what is with the HASBROish painting on the shrunken head?

UGH!
Well the HT shrunken head does't really have ANY paint on it. But I agree, looks terrible.

[qbomb71]

[QUOTE=Rorywan;4056483]Those pics are horrible. As if someone wanted to make it look as bad as possible. I will reserve judgement on the actual figure until I see some normal inhand pics.


Exactly what I was thinking. I don't have any interest in getting this figure, but damn. I looked at those last pics and the photographer couldn't have made them look worse:monkey4. The boots, shrunken head and black pearl in a bottle look absolutely horrible to me.

[Shep]

BAD photography on an epic scale... I'm also getting this piece, and from everything i've seen thus far (With the exception of these POOR photos) has been great. The headsculpt is out of this world.

[sky_captain]

Likers gonna like.

[MarfMaster]

They have got to be joking with this figure.

[lt0778]

wow this figure looks really bad no comparison to the hot toys jack and i don't even own a hot toys jack.

[MxBxM]

The hat on the Hot Toys feels like the material they use to put eggs in in my country. Pretty durable with normal handling.

Based on the pics, this Jack does not stand up to the HT one. The ship in the bottle, the sword, the shrunken head, and the boots do not look very good. The sculpt and pain are not that good either.

But, I will wait for better pics and the side by side.

[Guinnessfan]

I hope for EB's/Medicom's sake that's not really the final product...if so they aren't even trying to make a decent fig. The only thing that looks good in those pics is the detailing on his belts.

[jayveeeusebio]

I wonder why they still used that cheap boots when HT already done w/ it from their old Jack w/c was made 3 years from now. :cuckoo:

Also, the blue on his vest is a pain on my eyes. :slap

[COSMOSTARX]

I think the head was the only responsibility Enterbay had. Everything else is pretty much Medicom?

[MxBxM]

The jacket looks like old rags compared to the HT one.

[Cocoboloboy]

I'm embarressed for EB/M. Even without the comparison to HT's this just doesn't look good so far.

[Gipetto0812]

I think the head was the only responsibility Enterbay had. Everything else is pretty much Medicom?

You are correct. I think that EB also sculpted the hands but not too sure

[Wor-Gar]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/407375_221248444616363_100001936270990_504985_1047 171771_n.jpg?dl=1

What!?

The scale of the parts is all over the place. Belts look too small. Head's all Frankenstein'd. Pee-Yew! Stinker.

[Mookeylama]

is the head wrap real cloth? plastic hair i guess.

[ShortRound]

This is just sad......who cares that it talks. :dunno

[Rorywan]

I'm still waiting to see some decent pics. It looks pretty horrible in these, but they are horrible pics as well!

But, not looking good so far.

Looks a lot better here..

http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/69464edegw1dndxn9665oj.jpg

[Terminator_Fan_Game]

Yeah, it looks great in some shots but the latest ones are terrible.
I doubt it looks that bad in person.

[Gipetto0812]

Hey Rory, any idea when this will be released since you're getting one? Did you PO one or just waiting until its "in stock" to pick it up?

[jonny88]

This looks like crap compared to the Hot Toys version.

[Jokes & Bats]

Everyone hated Medi Dark Knight when that came out - but once posed correctly, even before mods, people realised it wasn't half bad. I think Medi Jack has potential - I'd like to see some well posed photos.

[Rorywan]

Hey Rory, any idea when this will be released since you're getting one? Did you PO one or just waiting until its "in stock" to pick it up?

I paid for it ages ago from an EB official dealer, he normally gets stuff to me pretty quickly once it's released. I think it's listed as Jan/Feb at the moment.

[MaulFan]

I don't know why there is such need to rip on this figure like it's a Hasbro toy or something. I think Hot Toys' Jack is a better overall figure, but I think this is a pretty solid runner up to it, paint apps looks nice, sculpt is better than the old Medicom portraits, clothes look nice, boots are painted with nice detail despite being solid sculpt. There have been some crappy pics of this but I think futzed and presented as nice as any figure, it will look better than it's being perceived. The only real negative about it is the price, at roughly $50 more than the Hot Toys figure, and coming with less things and less detail to what's included, that's a bit much. This is a solid $150-$200 figure, just not a $300 figure.

[MxBxM]

I don't know why there is such need to rip on this figure like it's a Hasbro toy or something. I think Hot Toys' Jack is a better overall figure, but I think this is a pretty solid runner up to it, paint apps looks nice, sculpt is better than the old Medicom portraits, clothes look nice, boots are painted with nice detail despite being solid sculpt. There have been some crappy pics of this but I think futzed and presented as nice as any figure, it will look better than it's being perceived. The only real negative about it is the price, at roughly $50 more than the Hot Toys figure, and coming with less things and less detail to what's included, that's a bit much. This is a solid $150-$200 figure, just not a $300 figure.

You are right, but for what they are charging for it, it is not a very good figure. I guess it is relative. You get a great sculpt and figure at less than $150, it is awesome. You get the same great sculpt and figure at $200, then it's an ok figure. You get the same sculpt and figure at $250+, not very good figure.

I gues Medicom X Enterbay should realize that and start charging accordingly. Maybe this joint ventures are not as good as we thought as they are splitting the earnings and each want to earn as if they sold the figure themeselves. But with an overall inferior package and at almost $100 more than Hot Toys, most people will prefer HT.

[Rorywan]

I don't think anyone who is buying one Jack Sparrow is realistically going to buy the EB one. It's pirates fans who will pick it up to accompany their DX set who will pay for this. Like me.
So I think all the "it looks crap compared to HT" posts are pretty pointless and obvious. Most of which are made by people to re-unforced the idea to themselves that they made the right choice with their cash. I agree with Maulfan's post completely.

[Wor-Gar]

I'm still waiting to see some decent pics. It looks pretty horrible in these, but they are horrible pics as well!

But, not looking good so far.

Looks a lot better here..

http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/69464edegw1dndxn9665oj.jpg

Colors look better there, and it looks like quite a solid figure there too at first glance...but figure still has scale issues overall -- look at the size of the folds on the boots, the length of the legs, the small belts, the short coat, the oversized headband, etc.

Doesn't seem like the sculptors and the tailors were working on the same scaled figure.

[BlitzOUT]

Sculpt looks fantastic despite the scale issues

[jayveeeusebio]

This looks like crap compared to the Hot Toys version.

I'm sorry to be rude but this...:lecture

[noisetrigger]

With the exception of the HS, the choice of materials actually look worst than the first HT Jack Sparrow from four years ago.

Compared to the DX06, it's not even a comparison. The quality of materials, the presentation, the extras, it's very clear who the winner is here.

From the pic you can already tell it's missing a lot of fine detail that the HT one has. The most glaring is the buttons. On the HT, there are buttons sewn in all over. the UU jack is still using the old gluing method and from what I can see, actually lacking any marking on them. The lace also seems to be missing from the Medicom version.

And when you take into account the price, the choice is obvious. If this were cheaper than HT, it might still stand a chance. As of now, it doesn't.

One interesting fact, reason Medicom and Enterbay are teaming up together because Medicom has already lost the market to HT in Japan. I know this for a fact because I have a few Japanese customer that bought a lot of HT. They told me straight up that Medicom suck. Mind you this is not just the opinion of a few but an opinion shared by many collectors in Japan.

I think Enterbay has the skills to grow without the need for Medicom dragging them down and Enterbay should have just release this themselves. It will be cheaper and probably a closer competition to the HT version.

[Guinnessfan]

I would like to see EB step their game up. The way I see it HT is currently putting out the better product and setting the market price. If EB was able to start putting out a superior product and undercut HT price we would see the prices go down.

[Vortex]

Enterbay and Medicom have to be working out of cardboard boxes, how are they even in business? I'm going to forget about the HT version for a sec. and just say this figure is *** for $300. I wouldn't spend $100 on this POS.

hell..
I wouldn't display it if i won it.

[Rorywan]

Is that not stating the obvious though guys?
Everyone knows HT is the clear 'winner' with both quality and price. That's because they mass manufacture ona larger scale than EB. But they have their own strengths too, their headsculpts and production paint is generally of a higher quality than HT. Anyone who owns their figures will know this. They are a smaller company and therefore have higher overheads. But both EB and Medicom still produce some amazing releases. Head over to the Medi Gremlins thread, the Medi Star Wars droids thread, the EB scarface thread, the EB 1/4 scale T2 thread, the EB Elvis thread etc etc. The problem EB has is price and poor QC, they have never targeted the mass market like HT has. So comparing every released to HT isn't really logical.

I just wish HT would look after their own QC and timing and stop trying to squash EB, the more manufacturers in the market the better for us. If you don't like it or can't afford their prices, fair enough.
It's just a pity that most EB threads turn into "Hot Toys are better"?
Take the post above mine "I wouldn't even display it if I won it" that's just silly talk.
You have your DX? Great (I have two) but no need to piss on this because you like yours do much. It's all a bit playground isn't it?

Just my 2 cents.

[Gipetto0812]

^^:exactly:
Well said, Rory

[noisetrigger]

Being a dealer who sells both HT and EB, I can say that EB DID have better paint job than HT...........like three years ago. But once HT overtook them, EB never did quite catch on again.

Being a dealer who sells Medicom too, Medicom is still stuck in the early 21st century. They never did improved their technique. If you breakdown their figure you could see that they are still using old ways and old materials to make their figure.

HT and even EB are constantly experimenting with new techniques and materials to make better products.

I am starting to think that EB might be producing their stuff at the Medi factory (since EB lost their factory some time ago) and no wonder the final product suck cause no Medi product ever look like it's even close to the final product.

I think EB is making great strides in doing figures that HT isn't doing but they really need to stop this UU crap with Medi. It's making the figure crazy expensive and EB don't get to sell it in HK. What's the point of the partnership?

[Rorywan]

What's being a dealer got to do with anything mate?
We are all familiar with their products. And I don't agree about failing EB headsculpts in last few years, look at T2, Scarface, BL smiling sculpt, Leon etc.
Whilst you need to look at Medi Gizmo, Medi droids, Medi fett, probably the best work they have done in years.

I agree about the UU stuff, the prices are ridiculous, personally I think this a response to HT's bully boy tactics though. Smaller companies banding together.

[Vortex]

No Rory, i stand by my statement. I wouldn't display this if i won it. When considering the price tag for such rubbish the figure is an insult. I don't have hate for figures outside of HT like others, i welcome the competition. Blitzway for example, is an exciting company as far a price/performance goes. These guys here though haven't got a clue. $300 for this is beyond insane regardless of competition. That's just my opinion man but if it makes you (and others) happy then by all means enjoy it.

[Terminator_Fan_Game]

Well said rory! IMO EBs only problem is their higher price and poor QC.
I think their sculpts are slightly better than HTs in most cases and their paint is kinda better too IMO. I hate all these "HTs are better" or "I'll wait for HTs to make it" posts in every EB thread too.

This is coming from someone who has almost 30 HTs and just 1 EB(I did have all the EB Bruce Lees at one point though) so Im no EB "fanboy".

[Jokes & Bats]

We need some pics!!!!!

[BlitzOUT]

Enterbays partnership with Medicom is a dead end. They are better off without each other.

[HTfreak2012]

what i don't understand is how can both HT & Enterbay have the same license? I remember before when Mcfarlane had the license for the Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street & Texas chainsaw franchises. Then NECA got them & then MEZCO. But I do not remember any of them being able to release anything once the other company had the license.

[CelticPredator]

Those companies had the MASTER LICENSE. Which means they can make anything and everything in that universe at any scale they want, and anything they want to. Props, toys, cups, anything.

Some companies get a license to make certain products, like 1/6 scale figures, or 6 inch figures, or swag. They can't make anything but those.

NECA had the master license to Pirates back in 2003-2004ish. When DMC came out, Zizzle also had the master license. But they could only make 4" figures, and 1/6 scale stuff.

Then they both lost it to Playmates.

[Monger]

Even the idea that Medicom hasn't improved at all is absurd. They try to maintain a similar style through all their anime releases so that you can properly display their stuff together, but that does not mean the quality has not went up. For one thing their bodies have improved a lot over the last ten years, but just take a look at their Jojo's Bizarre Adventure lineup and it becomes apparent that everything has improved significantly. Those figures look exactly like their manga counterparts and feature excellent articulation. Hell the Dio figure is a marvel of its own. He stands incredibly tall (probably one of the tallest 1/6 figure humans though he is a vampire) and is extremely articulated. He also comes with two distinct headsculpts that cover two different hair styles and very different expressions. He then comes with multiple sets of knives etc.. he's a very complete package. To top it all off the Dio runs on his own modified muscle body that makes him look buff as he should. Their Jotaro has wiring inside his jacket to allow for nice posability, and it works better than their Piccolo that did the same.

Then there is the Darker Than Black Hei as another example. Just compare releases like this to their Crows x Worst figures and it is pretty obvious that Medicom has had a huge jump in quality over the last five or so years. Their Crows figures (the ones based off the manga and Worst manga) feature limited articulation, not so well tailored "leather" outfits (which you can compare to the excellent Hei coat), and these terrible head neck things that just rest on top of the neck.

Yeah their prices are still high, but aside from Ultimate Unison they are consistent and if anything people overrate their prices as the figures are not that bad for the Japanese market, whereas the price ends up soaring here where the dollar sucks and the yen is strong. A basic 1/8 - 1/7 PVC non posable statue runs for something like 60-100 dollars these days. They are very expensive and yet they really aren't that high of quality. A Medicom figure might run around 120-160 and yet it is fully posable and such.

If anything the only thing Medicom still needs to work on is accessories and their terrible stands. They need to embrace a Hot Toys or Enterbay-like stand. Those work much better. As for the accessories, it often times isn't their fault. A lot of anime characters really don't have much on them to make accessories. You can tell they tried with the Jojo lineup though. They include even the most obscure of stuff with those.

I get so tired of people constantly tearing apart Medicom when it's obvious that no one can do anime figures quite like them. Their style works best when doing anime figures and the more realistic Hot Toys and the more completionist Enterbay can't really quite do that. Seriously why does Enterbay and Medicom especially get special treatment when people complain about things? Someone has part of the body on an Akira figure break from Medicom and they start complaining and mouthing off how terrible Medicom figures are and how they are so dated, but when Hot Toys figures from two years back start melting people just say it was a bad mistake? How can you do that? Enterbay has bad QC problems? Indeed, but don't act like Iron Man Mark VI never happened. Remember good old Captain America? Seriously people need to stop acting like Hot Toys is somehow above these two companies. If anything they have more manpower and resources and yet still make the same amount of mistakes if not more due to their huge mass production. Just imagine how many figures out there produced by them have melted. I can guarantee you if far outnumbers the amount of Enterbay figures that have had QC problems.

All three of these companies have their specialties and that's exactly why all three still exist right now and are still constantly pumping out figures, Medicom especially.

[Rorywan]

But, I guess the main thing to remember is that we the customer are better off with existence of both Medi and EB, and hopefully Blitzway. More choice more licenses. I don't understand the mentality that seems to pervade these boards sometimes. You decide with figure you want, from the company you want. You get it, no need to rip apart the versions you didn't buy? You have already spoken with your cash. Knocking an EB release doesn't make the HT release standing on your desk anymore special. The more the merrier I say.

[COSMOSTARX]

What do you expect? This forum is 99% Hot Toys cack riding without thought.

Ten faulty Hot Toys in hand, nobody cares.

One faulty Enterbay or Medicom in hand, all hell breaks loose.

This set's too pricey. Did whats his face get it in hand yet? I only wish the head on this was smirking more. Both this and the HT head doesn't give enough of that snide cunning smile.

[shadowfla]

walki talkie sparrow???? naaaaah:rotfl

[Rorywan]

walki talkie sparrow???? naaaaah:rotfl

Thanks for that enlightening and insightful addition to our conversation Shadowfla. Since when did you take up trollin?
:dunno:monkey4

[MaulFan]

But, I guess the main thing to remember is that we the customer are better off with existence of both Medi and EB, and hopefully Blitzway. More choice more licenses. I don't understand the mentality that seems to pervade these boards sometimes. You decide with figure you want, from the company you want. You get it, no need to rip apart the versions you didn't buy? You have already spoken with your cash. Knocking an EB release doesn't make the HT release standing on your desk anymore special. The more the merrier I say.

Because the hobby and forum are changing tone, the childish fun of it is fading and even toys are becoming a status symbol. Whether they'll admit it or not, many people here now treat this stuff like a status symbol and fight with others and put collectors and collectibles down for "inferiority". It's sickening to me and I am glad I still have friends to talk to who collect like me.

Given the price and unlikelihood of this figure ever being extremely discounted, I'll never own this Jack, but I has nothing to do with who makes it. I wanted a great Sparrow in my collection, HT happened to suit my tastes more, but I was open to this figure. If HT hadn't done a Jack I'd begetting this, but as is, my budget only allows for one.

That said, I love the character and I love collecting so I still desire to discuss this figure, but I like to think I balance praise and critique well on this and have also been vocal about issues on the HT figure as it too has flaws.

[Rorywan]

Because the hobby and forum are changing tone, the childish fun of it is fading and even toys are becoming a status symbol. Whether they'll admit it or not, many people here now treat this stuff like a status symbol and fight with others and put collectors and collectibles down for "inferiority". It's sickening to me and I am glad I still have friends to talk to who collect like me.

Given the price and unlikelihood of this figure ever being extremely discounted, I'll never own this Jack, but I has nothing to do with who makes it. I wanted a great Sparrow in my collection, HT happened to suit my tastes more, but I was open to this figure. If HT hadn't done a Jack I'd begetting this, but as is, my budget only allows for one.

That said, I love the character and I love collecting so I still desire to discuss this figure, but I like to think I balance praise and critique well on this and have also been vocal about issues on the HT figure as it too has flaws.

Excellent post MaulFan, and exactly my feelings on this subject as well.
:clap

[darthviper107]

I don't really think there is as much of an advantage for this market to have several companies competing to improve quality.

If Medicom and Enterbay were to go away, and Hot Toys were to increase their prices, then there would get a point where people wouldn't buy their figures. It's not like a monopoly case where people are forced to go with the only choice. If Hot Toys were charging the same prices as Medicom I wouldn't buy their figures.

[COSMOSTARX]

I think another reason for pricing is that aside from Hot Toys, they don't really re-release or re-issue products as often or at all.

Basically to me it seems like they acquire the license and push X amount of stuff out for this price to make a profit and move onto other stuff.