C-3PO with R2-D2

[tomandshell]

http://licos.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mia/shs/koto/ko73.jpg

If Kotobukiya's droid piece is looking this good in roughly 1/7 scale, I can just imagine how nice Sideshow's is going to be in 1/4 scale.

:drool

[Deak Starkiller]

Pretty cool man, looks like a micro version of the real deal. For once it seems R2 is in the right scale compared to 3PO.

[EVILFACE]

That is very nice.

[Gruson]

Nice, I cannot wait for these in 1/4.

[AmanaMatt]

1:7 Scale.....ok, how much smaller than the 1:6 scale is that really? They do look sharp

[Wor-Gar]

What exactly are those pieces, Tom? Real metal?

[The Josh]

Nice, I cannot wait for these in 1/4.

I'll second that.

[elwood49]

Wow, that looks great.

Unfortunately, that's the EXACT pose I wanted for the 1/4 droids 2-pack. We all know how Lucas doesn't let the various licensees repeat poses. If that remains true, I'd hate for such a classic pose to be "wasted" on the Kotos.

[pjam]

Beautiful :monkey1

[Sith Lord 0498]

That is unbelievably remarkable!!! C-3PO looks like he's made out of metal!! Does Kotobukiya make model kits in metal? I thought they were strictly vinyl kits.

[tomandshell]

What exactly are those pieces, Tom? Real metal?

Kotos are soft vinyl pre-painted sculpture kits that come in several pieces that you snap together. I have seven and am very happy with them. (Boba Fett, Stormtrooper, Sand Trooper, Snow Trooper, Scout Trooper, AOTC Clone, Shock Trooper--and Commander Bly is on order.)

Their human likenesses aren't quite there, but the helmeted characters are really great, in my opinion. I still think they're a little pricey for what they are, but you have to remember that they are imports, and as President Bush reminds us, "The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country."

[JustinLuck]

When will this Koto be released and for how much? I really hope Sideshow's 1/6 versions of these will look this good so we can pose them in this position.

[IrishJedi]

Wow, that's indeed a pretty nice piece.

I can't wait to see what SSC has in mind for our favorite droids. However, I am of the mind that they should probably be released together, as a 2-Pack.

Then again, maybe not... as R2 could conceivably come with a plethora of accessories. Still, these 2 will always be mutually exclusive in my mind so it would be awkward having either of them on display w/out the other... even for a limited time.

I wonder what SSC thinks about this.

[Darth Rage]

The only reason I could see for sideshow not to do C3PO and R2D2 together would be the price point. People are bawking at $350 for Luke and Yoda. If the droids are metal and come with lights ( as I so hope they do) they won't come cheap. That koto pose is sooooo iconic though, I'd love to see sideshow 1/4 scale done with that pose.

[Sith Lord 0498]

Kotos are soft vinyl pre-painted sculpture kits that come in several pieces that you snap together. I have seven and am very happy with them. (Boba Fett, Stormtrooper, Sand Trooper, Snow Trooper, Scout Trooper, AOTC Clone, Shock Trooper--and Commander Bly is on order.)

Their human likenesses aren't quite there, but the helmeted characters are really great, in my opinion. I still think they're a little pricey for what they are, but you have to remember that they are imports, and as President Bush reminds us, "The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country."

Yoda is really awesome too. So far, he's the only Koto I own, but the likeness is so good it's creepy!! He's also pretty small (about 4-5 inches tall) but definitely worth the $45!

[IrishJedi]

The only reason I could see for sideshow not to do C3PO and R2D2 together would be the price point. People are bawking at $350 for Luke and Yoda. If the droids are metal and come with lights ( as I so hope they do) they won't come cheap. That koto pose is sooooo iconic though, I'd love to see sideshow 1/4 scale done with that pose.
Hmm... didn't even think about the media possibly containing metal and lights. Point taken.

[tomandshell]

When will this Koto be released and for how much? I really hope Sideshow's 1/6 versions of these will look this good so we can pose them in this position.

Kotos retail for around $100, but I wouldn't pay that much when you can easily get them for around $75--or less if you shop around. I ordered Bly in January and he is due to ship in July. Some start to show up early, because they are released first in Japan, and the rest are later exported here through Dark Horse. I haven't heard a release date for the droid piece yet. Actually, some are guessing that these will be two separate pieces that can be connected for one display. (I personally hope that they come in one package, it'll be cheaper than two different releases.)

[JustinLuck]

The only reason I could see for sideshow not to do C3PO and R2D2 together would be the price point. People are bawking at $350 for Luke and Yoda. If the droids are metal and come with lights ( as I so hope they do) they won't come cheap. That koto pose is sooooo iconic though, I'd love to see sideshow 1/4 scale done with that pose.

Personally, I would never spend $350 on Luke and Yoda because the lack of articulation, and the fact that Yoda is not a finished piece you can take out of the pouch and left standing.

I would rather the droids be released as separate pieces if that meant that they have superior articulation and detail. I want them to look at least as good as these Kotos.

I would spend good money on highly detailed PFs if they were articulated and were fully developed. When I say fully developed, I mean, there is detail underneath the clothing and parts that are not explicitly shown, etc.

But because these don't exist, I settle for the 1/6 line.

[The Josh]

If done right I'd consider it even at $450 or so.

[Mini-Rock]

If done right I'd consider it even at $450 or so.
Yeah, $450-$500 sounds right. The Koto piece looks amazing. No doubt, the SS version would set the standard though.

[tomandshell]

If the exclusive version had lights, I would be all over it. Honestly, I'll order it no matter what, but I sure hope that there are lights involved when this finally hits.

[Batty]

How tall would a 1/4 R2 be? I'm too lazy to do any calculations right now. Or dumb. It's one of those.

[JohnyBoo]

I can't wait to preorder this Koto. I love how it looks. I have several and I like to mix them in with my GG stuff. 12" Luke looks nice with them also.

[Agent0028]

I kinda question whether it would be possible to do R2 and 3PO in metal for the PF. Have some metal with the piece I am sure they could do, but I just dunno about all metal. I seem to recall someone mentioning that working with metal makes it more difficult to get it as detailed. I think the shiny polystone used on the Ironman maquette would do fine, and if koto can make vinyl look like metal I'm sure sideshow can make poly look like metal. Make it a bit more affordable too.

[JustinLuck]

Am I the only one who wants nicely detailed, articulated 1/6 droid figures?

PFs are nice and all, but they lack the beloved articulation.

[tomandshell]

I seem to be recalling the same comments that Agent is--I remember them saying that some metal would be used, but an entirely metal figure wouldn't end up looking as good. Again, if the Kotos look so metallic, then a 1/4 scale piece can look good too. It's all in the paint. For example:

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/7155_press06-001.jpg

http://gentlegiantltd.com/media/uploads/0/0/4/6/c3po_popup_one.jpg

[King Darkness]

Am I the only one who wants nicely detailed, articulated 1/6 droid figures?

PFs are nice and all, but they lack the beloved articulation.

No your not alone...I would love 1/6 droids because thats mainly all I collect....PF and to large and more importantly to $$$$....and SS could definetly make 1/6 R2 & 3P0 a 2 pack...

[tomandshell]

I hope that they do them in both lines, to please fans of all types. I personally prefer a piece that is as large and detailed as possible, and I don't want it to be articulated--I don't want to have to pose it myself, just take it out of the box and put it on the shelf and leave it that way. But others who want smaller pieces or less expensive pieces or articulated pieces will feel differently, and so Sideshow should cater to both crowds.

[Wor-Gar]

All I want to know is how tall is the 3PO/R2 you posted Tom, how much and when can I buy it?

[Batty]

I hope that they do them in both lines, to please fans of all types. I personally prefer a piece that is as large and detailed as possible, and I don't want it to be articulated--I don't want to have to pose it myself, just take it out of the box and put it on the shelf and leave it that way. But others who want smaller pieces or less expensive pieces or articulated pieces will feel differently, and so Sideshow should cater to both crowds.
Or a sucker like me who collects both. :monkey1

[scriff]

I'd hate for such a classic pose to be "wasted" on the Kotos.

I wouldn't say it's a 'wasted' on the kotos. If Koto got the pose, and they do a good job (which looks like they have) then more power to them!

I have this piece on pre-order, and it is listed as being one piece.

Can't wait! I've been waiting for a decent R2
:r2d2line

Go the Kotos!

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[PsychoCenobite]

I really like these but aren't the other Koto Star wars figures 1/6 scale? I've got the Sandtrooper and he looks good next to my Sideshow Luke.

But if these are 1/7 scale, wont they look out of place next to each other?

PsychoCenobite :monkey5

[FlyAndFight]

Wow, that looks great.

Unfortunately, that's the EXACT pose I wanted for the 1/4 droids 2-pack. We all know how Lucas doesn't let the various licensees repeat poses. If that remains true, I'd hate for such a classic pose to be "wasted" on the Kotos.

Sideshow could have R2 posed with all 3 legs instead of just 2 and it would be a different pose. I definitely agree that C3PO resting his arm on R2's top is classic.

[Agent0028]

Well if Lucas won't let sideshow do they pose maybe they can do the next best thing...R2 dragging 3PO's head across the ground from AOTC. :p

[Darth Loki]

If SS has to get approval for every piece I wonder if they'd get approval for an exact copy of the Koto piece?

[bcm77]

The Kotobukiya R2 & 3PO are excellent but I think I'll wait for Sideshow to do them in 1/6 scale.

[tomandshell]

I have this piece on pre-order, and it is listed as being one piece.

Can you tell us where you ordered it from? I haven't seen it up for preorder anywhere, and I know that there are some people here who are interested in ordering it. Thanks!

[JustinLuck]

Why does Lucas not allow two items with the same pose? Star Wars is so damn popular, they would not lose any money by repeating postures...

[DCFett]

Totally down on the articulated 1/6 scale droids. This has been a major thorn with me as it took Hasbro 25+ years to do a 3-3/4" 3PO with knee joints!!! AND the current 12" versions take NO advantage of the cool little hydrolic lines on 3PO's arms. Be nice if a rubber connection that was detachable upon superflexion could be used for the arm pistons. Sort of like when you move Luke's hands they come off without damaging the hand/wrist. Not sure how you'd vac matelize these parts though, but in the ROTS video, the props master, Ty somethingortheother, shows guns and lightsaber hilts completly made from rubber that are vac metalized. So, I guess the technology is out there!!!
BRING ON THE SUPER ARTICULATER C-3PO!!!

Not sure how they could improve on the R2 besides scale...perhaps a metal dome and a realistic sound chip, pop out spinning computer interface, and lauching lightsaber hilt compartment would do it! Oh and a remote 3rd leg deployment!!!!

Im dreaming. Cant wait to see what SS does with these ICONS of SW!:chew

[carbo-fation]

Man....this piece looks awesome! I just hope SS will make them someday. :monkey2

[The ill Jedi]

Oooh, vewy pwetty!!

[Wor-Gar]

I'm re-posting the picture Tom put up so you don't have to go to the top of the thread.

Kotobukiya C-3PO and R2-D2 set.

Really wish these were 1/6th scale...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/ko73.jpg

[Batty]

I'm not sure if I want 1/6 or 1/4 first. I do know that as soon as we get a PF version, I'm selling this one to the Jawas.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9459/dscn61065xy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[tomandshell]

Is that one Attakus?

[Batty]

Is that one Attakus?
It's actually a NECA resin bank I picked up a few years ago. It's not bad for what it is. The paint's a little sloppy and he has a slot in the back of his head to drop money in. :lol I don't really display him with my Luke.

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/4926/dscn61507rn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Seaward]

If somehow the 1/6 scale versions end up looking anywhere remotely this pretty, I would be ecstatic. I can't wait to see what sort of detail Sideshow packs into R2 (How about a slot for the Jedi Luke saber!).

But I don't think we would need the Rocket legs for R2, since he apparently had those removed before filming the original trilogy:rotfl

[DarkArtist81]

If somehow the 1/6 scale versions end up looking anywhere remotely this pretty, I would be ecstatic. I can't wait to see what sort of detail Sideshow packs into R2 (How about a slot for the Jedi Luke saber!).

But I don't think we would need the Rocket legs for R2, since he apparently had those removed before filming the original trilogy:rotfl

Yeah....he must have ran out of jet fuel or something....:lol

Or he just got old and lazy..

[JustinLuck]

I don't know why, but that Luke always looks like he's wearing makeup.:confused:

I'd love to see a super articulated C-3PO and R2-D2. I would also pay twice as much for them as human figures if they cram as much detail and articulation in as possible.

[LOTRFan]

But I don't think we would need the Rocket legs for R2, since he apparently had those removed before filming the original trilogy:rotfl

:lol :rotfl :lol Entropy in space, the worst kind! :rotfl

These look amazing, certainly the best Kotos yet, though Boba Fett is really quite good. Sure does make me want the 1/4 scale. :monkey5

[tomandshell]

But I don't think we would need the Rocket legs for R2, since he apparently had those removed before filming the original trilogy:rotfl

I'm pretty sure that after Padme gave R2 to Anakin in between episodes II and III, he did some aftermarket tinkering that voided the space warranty.

[Batty]

Case Fresh out of Australia has them up for pre-order at $135. Most of their Koto figures are about $20 to $30 higher than what we can get them for here is the States. (They have Slave Leia for $120.) So, R2 and C-3PO should be right around the $115 mark. That sounds like a really good deal.

[JustinLuck]

Do they have a release date?

[Batty]

It's listed for December. We should see it up for pre-order here soon. Case Fresh (http://www.casefresh.com/starwars/kotobukiya/)

[scriff]

Case Fresh here in Australia is where I have the droids on pre-order.

I wouldn't mind the Leia either, but my wife's thumb is a bit too heavy...

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[scriff]

Another pic of the Koto that I came across

http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/images/D/D3301.jpg

Looks like a nice piece!

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[Gazmog]

Nice! Classic 'cleaned up' look from the ceremony in ANH.

[Ironman1188]

Am I the only one who wants nicely detailed, articulated 1/6 droid figures?

PFs are nice and all, but they lack the beloved articulation.

NO!!! You are not alone. Many more characters can be added to ones collection in the 1:6 format rather than the 1/4.
If you want a great figure get a 1:6, you want something 1/4, have a kid. :lol

[LOTRFan]

Nice! Classic 'cleaned up' look from the ceremony in ANH.

I still can't get over how great these look, esp considering they are vinyl. :monkey5

[tomandshell]

I hope that Sideshow does something just like that in quarter scale! It would go very nicely with my Medal Ceremony Exclusive Han PF.

[DarthRamuk]

It would go very nicely with my Medal Ceremony Exclusive Han PF.

:monkey2 Tell me about it!

[scriff]

I hope that Sideshow does something just like that in quarter scale! It would go very nicely with my Medal Ceremony Exclusive Han PF.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Lucas only OK's unique poses, in other words, sideshow may have to change the pose somewhat if they were to do a PF.

Fine by me really as I would never be allowed to get a PF version of this, suffice it to say that this koto version looks pretty nice though.

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[Batty]

Razor's Edge has it up for pre-order for $120.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/183/r2andc35xx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Wor-Gar]

Does anyone know how tall these guys are?

I read somewhere that 3PO is 10.5" and R2 is 4" -- which doesn't make sense as R2 would be way too little.

[JustinLuck]

Would it be smart to pre-order now, or should we wait for a cheaper price? Do these things sell out like Sideshow pieces?

[JustinLuck]

I'm sure I read somewhere that Lucas only OK's unique poses, in other words, sideshow may have to change the pose somewhat if they were to do a PF.


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Again, this is so stupid. As long as the pieces are of high quality, they are sure to sell out regardless if they duplicate poses.

[RogueJedi30]

Does anyone know how tall these guys are?

I read somewhere that 3PO is 10.5" and R2 is 4" -- which doesn't make sense as R2 would be way too little.

I remember reading that 3PO was 10.5" including the base and R2 was 4" on his own, which would jive much better with the pictures as R2 is over half 3PO's height.

[Wor-Gar]

I remember reading that 3PO was 10.5" including the base and R2 was 4" on his own, which would jive much better with the pictures as R2 is over half 3PO's height.

Thanks for the confirmation. I was hoping these guys would work with SS figures but clearly they will be too small.

A 4" R2 isn't even 1/7th scale, is it? More like 1/8th.

[scriff]

I remember reading that 3PO was 10.5" including the base and R2 was 4" on his own, which would jive much better with the pictures as R2 is over half 3PO's height.

The pics above show r2 as being at least half of 3po's height.

Unless my eyes deceive me.....

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[scriff]

Again, this is so stupid. As long as the pieces are of high quality, they are sure to sell out regardless if they duplicate poses.

Hope you're not saying that I'M stupid there mate!:D As my wife is the only one who can say that! :thwak

Otherwise - if you're talking about Lucas, then well, not really sure that I agree. I think it is okay that Lucas can make the final decision on a piece, and anyway, it is such a diverse star wars universe out there that you could pick any number of poses for these great characters!

:peace

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[Alice Adrenochrome]

StarWarsshop.com has them for $149.99...

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=405314;category_id=382

[JustinLuck]

Again, is it better to pre-order now or wait? :( Isn't it best to avoid purchasing merchandise at the SWS whenever possible because of the high price?

[LOTRFan]

Again, is it better to pre-order now or wait? :( Isn't it best to avoid purchasing merchandise at the SWS whenever possible because of the high price?

Its hard to say, most of the human KOTOs bomb and are easily obtainable afterward. I haven't heard anything negative about this one however, so it will be in the ranks of Fett, etc. You can probably find one for about $100-120.

[Michael Crawford]

I just reviewed the Koto Snowtrooper. They call these things 1/7th, but they are much closer to 1/6th. Here's photos of the Snowtrooper:

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_snowtroop_7.jpg

(review - http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_062306a.htm)

And the Boba Fett:

http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_kotofett_9.jpg

(review - http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_082205a.htm)