So, MAUL bust a disapointement ????? [Archive]

Shai Hulud

05-10-2006, 11:01 AM

Was reading some post of the people who received this Bust at SF..It seems the paint job on the eyes is a very big disapointment...I was wandering what people here think of this...Will we be more tolerant of the paint job because were the '' freaks'' ??? Just curious...

nash

05-10-2006, 11:16 AM

what is SF, and what did they not like about the eyes. can you post pics?

Arn't the eyes supposed to look exactly like the photos on SSC's website? I thought they updated those photos of the Maul bust from Prototype to Production pics. If so, why would they not look exactly like the pics?

Shai Hulud

05-10-2006, 11:20 AM

HERES SOME PICS FROM SF (STATUEFORUM.COM)

MOVIE MAUL

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/kingshaihulud/3aae240a.jpg

SIDESHOW MAUL

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/kingshaihulud/MAUL.jpg

Darth Loki

05-10-2006, 11:21 AM

I saw some pics of someone who got this in the Phillipines and it looked great. Won't know for sure until I get mine next week.

nash

05-10-2006, 11:24 AM

Looks like it is drawn out by the flash to me. Why would they make an assumption on such a small pic with a flash right smack in the middle of his forehead? get a macro shot?

Shai Hulud

05-10-2006, 11:25 AM

I change the pic, IVE PUT A BIGGER ONE..check it out

Gruson

05-10-2006, 11:28 AM

Mine will be here tomorrow and I will take some pics.

That said, the eyes do look like they lack a lot of detail.

tomandshell

05-10-2006, 11:44 AM

The color is so off!!!

It's clear that this thing has changed a lot since I saw it at Comic Con last year...

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8748/bust4dd.jpg

The Josh

05-10-2006, 11:45 AM

They didn't put the blood shot effect on gthe outside edges. Not sure that would be an issue if I was getting it the rest of the detail looks amazing and the eyes on this haven't changed since we saw it at SDCC. Not sure what the shock is to some folks.

PsychoCenobite

05-10-2006, 11:47 AM

Going by those pictures, then I'd be gutted with this bust! :monkey2

Those eyes really lack a hell of a lot of detail. I'm sure I've seen better yes - human ones. They don't have that 'wet' look that eyes have.

For the price, I'd want them to better... but I'm a fussy :monkey3

PsychoCenobite :monkey1

Darth Rage

05-10-2006, 11:51 AM

Should have used glass eyes.

Darth Loki

05-10-2006, 11:59 AM

I had no idea that he even had blood shot eyes in the movie so I doubt it'll bother me at all. Glass eyes are an idea though.

KitFisto

05-10-2006, 12:01 PM

That was my first thought on seeing the SS piece. At $600 it's a very nice piece, but I think glass eyes painted right would have been spot on. The current SS eyes in that pic look lifeless compared to the movie pic. I understand it's a bust and not Ray Park, but I think the eyes could have had more detail.

That said, it's still a piece I'd LOVE to have.

CookieMonster

05-10-2006, 12:09 PM

I have scrimped and saved like a ^^^^^ to get this bust :monkey4 The Fedex shipping estimate is 6pm on the 12th. Having read all these posts im now waiting nervously (hoping it looks as good as the prototypes)
Fingers crossed.:redblob

Batty

05-10-2006, 12:14 PM

Here are a couple of TF photos. There's a big difference. They're blood-shot and sculpted.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1687/img020711er.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1628/img020514ju.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

SideshowDusty

05-10-2006, 12:21 PM

Just so you realize, the Maul photos that are on the product page on the Sideshow site:

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=2909

were taken from the production sample, not the prototype. The eyes in those photos look to be the same as the eyes posted at the top of this thread - just without the glaring flash pointed right at them :duff

Darth Loki

05-10-2006, 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=SideshowDusty]Just so you realize, the Maul photos that are on the product page on the Sideshow site:

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=2909

were taken from the production sample, not the prototype. The eyes in those photos look to be the same as the eyes posted at the top of this thread - just without the glaring flash pointed right at them :duff[/QUOTE

But the pics posted above from Toy Fair do have the blood shot in them. Why would it have been left out of the production pieces?

hairlesswookiee

05-10-2006, 12:38 PM

tell you what... since everyone is disappointed i will be happy to take one off of someone's hands. j/k. i can see why people might be upset, but i think it still looks great. i wish i had the money to pick one up. :monkey2

LOTRFan

05-10-2006, 01:18 PM

Ok, so Greedo didn't shoot first, but does he have pupils!? :monkey5

Darklord Dave

05-10-2006, 01:25 PM

The flash really hurts it. Here's a hi-res of the production bust.

Alice Adrenochrome

05-10-2006, 01:36 PM

Judging by that one picture (posted by Shai), the eyes look pretty dead on this otherwise fantastic piece. Me too, I really miss the gloss on the eyes. I can understand that some people might be upset by this, since the eyes take up a lot of attention. It's hard to tell if there is gloss on the eyes, but glossy eyes and smaller pupils would have looked more realistic. Looking forward to see some more pictures, that might give a better idea.

Viking28

05-10-2006, 01:41 PM

Alice Adrenochrome

05-10-2006, 01:45 PM

I don't think I missed any posts over there but it seems like all the people who are complaining about the eyes are just going off the pictures that are posted. And those pics have a lot of flash in them to really tell about the eyes.
I agree, we need to see more/better pics first.

Darth Rage

05-10-2006, 01:52 PM

The pic Dave posted looks awesome.

LOTRFan

05-10-2006, 01:53 PM

Viking28

05-10-2006, 01:55 PM

I've just seen so many of these pieces ruined by flash photos taking away all detail before everyone else gets their piece.
I won't know till next week so I'll be able to let you know then.

Darth Loki

05-10-2006, 02:10 PM

I unfortunately will be one of the last to let you know but it is still going to be the center piece of my collection for a long, long time.

Dave, where did you get that pic from?

occulum

05-10-2006, 02:13 PM

you can pick up a small bottle of a gloss clear-coat at your local hobby store to paint on to give what its applied to a "wet look".

very simple to do.

i think it looks awesome.

Gruson

05-10-2006, 03:12 PM

The flash really hurts it. Here's a hi-res of the production bust.

They are not that detailed from the pics I have seen.

RS thread here has more pics:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1872147&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1872147

pjam

05-10-2006, 03:40 PM

Why don't we all just wait a few more days to see a few pics of one in hand taken in natural light. Doesn't really pay to speculate.

carbo-fation

05-10-2006, 03:50 PM

I am pretty sure there are some people on this board who can paint the eyes the way they like it. As for everyone else, you can either return it or live with it. No need to keep complaining about something that will in all likely-hood not going to change.

Mister Gosh

05-10-2006, 05:36 PM

Why don't we all just wait a few more days to see a few pics of one in hand taken in natural light. Doesn't really pay to speculate.

There's *some* detail, but it isn't what you see in the movie. This is one of my pics:

Eye Detail (http://static.flickr.com/45/141633215_c735a0df40_b.jpg)

You can see the detail in the corner of the eye, but the iris is pretty much a straight gradiant. There is some gloss to it however, that gets a little lost in the photos.

I love the bust, and think it looks great, but I'm not going to tell other people how or when to spend their money.
I think in the context of the face, the eyes are just fine:
Face Detail (http://static.flickr.com/56/141779369_5a46062b23_o.jpg)

Darth Loki

05-10-2006, 06:04 PM

I'm so bitter. I should have mine by now.

pjam

05-10-2006, 06:06 PM

There's *some* detail, but it isn't what you see in the movie. This is one of my pics:

Eye Detail (http://static.flickr.com/45/141633215_c735a0df40_b.jpg)

You can see the detail in the corner of the eye, but the iris is pretty much a straight gradiant. There is some gloss to it however, that gets a little lost in the photos.

I love the bust, and think it looks great, but I'm not going to tell other people how or when to spend their money.
I think in the context of the face, the eyes are just fine:
Face Detail (http://static.flickr.com/56/141779369_5a46062b23_o.jpg)

Those pics are very helpful, but I'd still reserve judgment until we can see some pics taken in natural light, without the flash/glare.

Mister Gosh

05-10-2006, 06:19 PM

Those pics are very helpful, but I'd still reserve judgment until we can see some pics taken in natural light, without the flash/glare.

As you wish. I'll try to get some better focused ones later, but there were taken outside with no flash:

Eye Detail (http://static.flickr.com/46/144282189_07678e49ac_b.jpg)

Face (http://static.flickr.com/50/144282191_9050ec2da0_b.jpg)

You can see the gloss on the eyes in this.

pjam

05-10-2006, 06:24 PM

As you wish. I'll try to get some better focused ones later, but there were taken outside with no flash:

Eye Detail (http://static.flickr.com/46/144282189_07678e49ac_b.jpg)

Face (http://static.flickr.com/50/144282191_9050ec2da0_b.jpg)

You can see the gloss on the eyes in this.

Sorry MG, my bad, earlier pics looked flashy. Thanks for the pics, they are very much appreciated and Maul does indeed look damn good, maybe try to snap a few more?

Morning and late afternoon always work best for me.

Mister Gosh

05-10-2006, 06:34 PM

Sorry MG, my bad, earlier pics looked flashy. Thanks for the pics, they are very much appreciated and Maul does indeed look damn good, maybe try to snap a few more?

The earlier pictures were done indoors with a flash, but I think ended up fairly representitive of how the thing looks in person (it's especially tricky to get good pics where the skin texture shows up).

I feel like I've linked the photos in a million threads already. The other threads about the bust on this board should have links.

Darth Rage

05-10-2006, 07:29 PM

Those last two pics look great mr Gosh:maul

LOTRFan

05-10-2006, 09:30 PM

They do look good, but I do see the complaint over the iris and the lack of "jaggedness." :maul

Mini-Rock

05-10-2006, 09:54 PM

I don't think I missed any posts over there but it seems like all the people who are complaining about the eyes are just going off the pictures that are posted.

Not to mention the complaints are from those who don't even have the piece. Everyone who has received seems excitingly happy with it. Just like me. :chew The eyes on are not like the promo pic posted earlier in this thread. They are more like what we saw, in the movie, when Maul appeared after the hanger doors opened when he face Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan. Comparing it with that close up scene, I can easily see the eyes are 95% spot on. I'm sure we will have that usual bunch of complainers, but I'm beyond happy with mine. :maul

My 1:1 Maul Bust (http://www.minirockslounge.com/justin51006.htm)

Here's hoping everyone who wants one gets one. :)

nash

05-10-2006, 10:03 PM

Rock, is it just me or does his eyes look crooked? Why does he look like he is looking up at something instead of straight ahead?

Mini-Rock

05-10-2006, 10:29 PM

:rotfl Kidding, right? Which pic?

EDIT: Ok, you probably mean this pic -

http://www.minirockslounge.com/sandtrooper%20002.jpg

This was taken with a light right over the bust, so shadow plays a part; and, the pic was taken below its eye level. I can see how it may look off though. Look at the other pics though, and its easy to see just how flawless this piece is. :)

Agent0028

05-10-2006, 10:48 PM

That Maul bust really does look awesome. I'm betting that any problem with lack of detail with the eyes isn't really noticeable when viewed from a normal distance, and how many people who see this are going to be putting their nose up to it to get a good look. I know if anyone gets that close to my stuff they better be holding their breath to not breath on it or I'll smack 'em upside the head...once they are a safe distance from the item of course!

Gruson

05-10-2006, 10:50 PM

Looks very nice.

I want mine now.

Maul rocks.

carbo-fation

05-10-2006, 10:52 PM

I know if anyone gets that close to my stuff they better be holding their breath to not breath on it or I'll smack 'em upside the head...once they are a safe distance from the item of course!

:mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :rotfl :rotfl :lol

lcummins

05-10-2006, 11:06 PM

Here are a couple of pictures of mine...

http://www.non-sport-cards.com/images/DarthMaul02.jpg

http://www.non-sport-cards.com/images/DarthMaul03.jpg

Mini-Rock

05-11-2006, 12:03 AM

Nice! :chew :maul

Agent, I hear ya man. That's why I keep my stuff covered. :D

Alice Adrenochrome

05-11-2006, 04:45 AM

As you wish. I'll try to get some better focused ones later, but there were taken outside with no flash:

Eye Detail (http://static.flickr.com/46/144282189_07678e49ac_b.jpg)

Face (http://static.flickr.com/50/144282191_9050ec2da0_b.jpg)

You can see the gloss on the eyes in this.

Without flash, the eyes look a lot better indeed. Detail is acceptable, I guess.

Super Serg

05-11-2006, 07:09 AM

I'm surprised that people are disapointed with this Maul, when the pic that
everyone is comparing it to is a pre-production piece that looks closer to
being a custom job than a regular street release.

For being a production piece, these eyes are NICE!

I'm all for calling out a Co if they do shoddy work... but this instance isn't 1
of them. I suggest you all add a couple of layers of clear coat with a small
brush to get that glassy / watery eye look. That's the ONLY thing this piece needs.

Way to go sideshow.

*ss*

Michael Crawford

05-11-2006, 07:33 AM

I'd be more than happy to take some photos if someone would like to send me one. :D

Darth Rage

05-11-2006, 10:42 AM

Nice pics Rock, awesome addition to your collection.

After looking at lc's pics of the ardeth day bust I can see where a lot of the "lack of detail" on Maul complaints may be coming from. The eyes on ardeth are scary realistic looking. I mean this bust is so well done its creepy. The detail is just shockingly good.

OK back to Maul.

Ray Park probably had some pretty severe contacts to wear to achieve this Sith look. They aren't going to look like "normal" eyes, with a myriad of colors in them. There's red, there's yellow, like a sunburst almost, but simple, lacking the subtle color variances in the normal human eye. So the bust does look extremely accurate. I agree the colors in the first pic looked a little flat, giving the bust a sort of dead look to it. Probably flash or photo related. The skin texture is extremely well done though and is teh first thing I noticed abiout this bust and commented on here or somewhere else.

Unfortunately I'll never own this piece (my wife would kill me and my daughter would have serious nightmares) so I have to appreciate this one through pictures. As far as speculating on pictures, well I can only reiterate that some of us will never own this piece so its all we can do. I hope to see more pics of this one too.

So I hope those of you that got one of these are very satisfied and help those of us who can't get one for whatever reasons enjoy it through your collection photos.

:duff

Darth Robbler

05-11-2006, 11:38 AM

<h1>WOW!!!!! FEDEX JUST DROPPED MINE OFF!!!!! HOLY CR@P!!!! IT ROCKS!!!</h1>

Darth Rage

05-11-2006, 11:46 AM

<h1>WOW!!!!! FEDEX JUST DROPPED MINE OFF!!!!! HOLY CR@P!!!! IT ROCKS!!!</h1>

:D pics? :D

Propboy007

05-11-2006, 02:11 PM

Where are the pics with the hood? Does it come with a hood? Must have the hood.

Darth Loki

05-11-2006, 02:16 PM

I hate you all right now. But I shall have my revenge :maul

Jo Yana

05-21-2006, 12:00 PM

Who can make a pictures in our collection (with others statue) for judge the dimension.

Please without flash

Thanks :)

Gruson

05-21-2006, 01:18 PM

Who can make a pictures in our collection (with others statue) for judge the dimension.

Please without flash

Thanks :)

Sure, here you go. I hope this helps.

http://www.crazywayco.com/maulcol.jpg

nash

05-21-2006, 01:55 PM

very nice setup!

DarkArtist81

05-21-2006, 02:16 PM

WOW.....I am so envious of everyone who was lucky and financially stable enough to score this bust. Looks phenomenal.

Wish I had one!! :monkey2

Darth Rage

05-21-2006, 05:44 PM

I would like one ticket to Gruson's museum please. :rock

KAOSINLA

05-21-2006, 05:54 PM

Gruson....selling already???

Gruson

05-21-2006, 06:33 PM

Gruson....selling already???

Yes.

It looked out of place with the rest of my collection so I am selling it. I tried various set ups but just could not get it to work...

If anyone is interested in it, PM me.

I would love to collect the 1:1 bust line but not enough room.

Now.. I cannot wait for the 1/4 Maul.

Mini-Rock

05-21-2006, 08:01 PM

I don't know man! I think it fits well in your collection judging from that pic. I totally understand the "room" issues though. The struggles of a collector. :)

Gruson

05-21-2006, 08:30 PM

Hey Mini, how do you have yours displayed in your room?

Mini-Rock

05-21-2006, 08:49 PM

Hey Mini, how do you have yours displayed in your room?

Like this so far:

http://www.minirockslounge.com/sandtrooper%20012.jpg

This is temp since I'll be re-doing my shelving to better accomodate these larger pieces.

Gruson

05-21-2006, 08:53 PM

Nice, I like the MR saber under him.

Are you going to replace the Falcon picture with one of Maul?

Mini-Rock

05-21-2006, 09:09 PM

Once I get the shelving reorganized, Vader and Ben will be back over there, and Maul where the other PF's are now. The Falcon pic was meant to go with Vader and Ben; but, now, I'm not sure what I want on the walls. I'm thinking environment scenes (Naboo, Kamino, Mustafar, Tatooine, etc.) or something. What's up there now is only temp. You have any ideas? ;) :D

Jo Yana

05-21-2006, 09:56 PM

Thanks Gru ;)

When make you a big update of your museum ?

KAOSINLA

05-22-2006, 02:02 AM

I would love to collect the 1:1 bust line but not enough room.

I know what you mean.......Darkness and 1/4 Alien Queen are it for me unless something spectactular comes along.

Darth Loki

05-22-2006, 10:35 AM

KitFisto

05-22-2006, 10:46 AM

Yes.

It looked out of place with the rest of my collection so I am selling it. I tried various set ups but just could not get it to work...

If anyone is interested in it, PM me.

I would love to collect the 1:1 bust line but not enough room.

Now.. I cannot wait for the 1/4 Maul.

This is the main reason I stayed away fro mthe 1:1 busts. I honestly have NO place to put them. I plan to move in the next year or so into a bigger house, but they still take up a lot of space and I limit my collection to ONE room with my big screen TV. I don't want to end up with a few pieces here in this room and a few pieces in that room. I like it all together.

Darth Loki

05-22-2006, 11:52 AM

This will most likely be the only one I ever get. And he's F*#^ING AWESOME. He's definitely an attention grabber. My gaze always seems to end up on him.

The Josh

05-22-2006, 04:35 PM

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7898/img00494lv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

CookieMonster

06-01-2006, 11:37 AM

This will most likely be the only one I ever get. And he's F*#^ING AWESOME. He's definitely an attention grabber. My gaze always seems to end up on him.

I'd have to agree on that. Unless I start a life of crime, this will be the only bust I get (untill Yoda and chewie of course)

The detail is mindblowing :chew :chew :chew

KitFisto

06-01-2006, 11:45 AM

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7898/img00494lv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wow, if only Obi-Wan and Qui Gon had decided to swing in different places that fight would have been over a lot faster and Qui Gon would have lived and Qui Gon would have been a good enough teacher to not let Anakin fall to the dark side. Then Palps would have been defeated a lot sooner and there would have been no need for the OT! :monkey3

Viking28

06-01-2006, 11:51 AM

Wow, if only Obi-Wan and Qui Gon had decided to swing in different places that fight would have been over a lot faster and Qui Gon would have lived and Qui Gon would have been a good enough teacher to not let Anakin fall to the dark side. Then Palps would have been defeated a lot sooner and there would have been no need for the OT! :monkey3

But then Anakin wouldn't have been able to bring balance to the force.

KitFisto

06-01-2006, 12:13 PM

But then Anakin wouldn't have been able to bring balance to the force.

Because the prophecy would have been false and the Sith already eliminated.

hairlesswookiee

06-01-2006, 12:18 PM

what if dooku decided to turn to the darkside anyways???

KitFisto

06-01-2006, 12:23 PM

what if dooku decided to turn to the darkside anyways???

Assume everything else plays out the same. Palps still trys to lure Anakin over, but because Qui Gon rules so much Anakin never falls. The war still happens, Palps still watches the Dooku/Anakin battle and Anakin still wins. Dooku is dealt with.

Mace/Palps fight still happens....Qui Gon trained Anakin does not save Palps....Palps dead. Sith done. :chew

pixletwin

06-01-2006, 12:24 PM

what if dooku decided to turn to the darkside anyways???

OK This something that need to be clear in the minds of Star Wars fans EVERYWHERE:

The Jedi brought the force out of balance as much as the Sith. Thats why Anakin was needed because he simultaneously destroyed all Jedi and all Sith as well as creating the means for a new Jedi order.

It was a dirty job but someone had to do it.

Plus Quigon would have left the Jedi Order as soon as Yoda and Mace decided to be generals.