Hot Toys DX Indiana Jones announced + Star Wars teaser

[Deak Starkiller]

Things are bound to get a bit touchy with this figure and any Indy figure, it's not too often you get 2 companies so closely making the exact same thing in this hobby to make comparisons, usually there's a fair ammount of time in between and certain variations are to be expected. In this case, you have two figures with attributes that can be seen better or worse than those of the other. It's find to share thoughts on that as long as people are civil to each other.

Well, I for one like the various incarnations of Indy. Hell even Medicom. I think there is room for all types of taste in the limited pantheon of Indina Jones memorabilia. Deckard is aight. :duff

[Matt S]

His Han Solo is ok, but nothing amazing.

http://blog.dreamwiz.com/usr/g/u/gud2js/14/gud2js_20051006190103_4621694_1.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31151

Dont be nice...sculpt is garbage...paint is pretty sharp though

[MaulFan]

Yeah, I'm not an Indy detail fan but just in general observation, I have issues with Sideshow and HT Indy, neither one gives me the sense of satisfaction I get with a lot of other figures.

At this point, I really want to see more views of the portrait. I see Ford in it and don't feel a need for tweaks, but, I get a mixed impression of that the expression on it is like, some shots look uber aggressive, others, just a bit more serious, closer to the expression Trev used. Ideally, I'd like it to be close to Trev's expression, I like that, but I would love HT's paint apps.

[JAROTO]

I think ill pass this one.

[Spartan Rex]

:lol
People use to rave about his sculpts back in the day before Trevor Grove swaggered into town and Sideshow announced its own plans for an Indy figure.
Do some digging and you'll see the post authors contemplating spending outrageous sums(in that day) for Kim recasts and originals to get their Indy and Solo fixes.
If HT lets the proto stand with out changes because its Arnie Kim they'll be making a big mistake.

[MaulFan]

Do we even know beyond speculation if Kim is the sculptor?

[Deckard]

Nope, no official specs yet whatsoever.

[RJMacReady16]

Dont be nice...sculpt is garbage...paint is pretty sharp though

That beats the hell out of Sideshow's Bespin and Smuggler releases. I don't think "garbage" is being fair at all.

[Spartan Rex]

That beats the hell out of Sideshow's Bespin and Smuggler releases. I don't think "garbage" is being fair at all.

True enough.

[karamazov80]

That beats the hell out of Sideshow's Bespin and Smuggler releases.
I don't know if I agree with that. Sideshow's sculpts aren't very good, but neither is this one IMO. They are all about equally bad. This one may have a better paint job, but a custom paint job is gonna beat Sideshow factory work 95+% of the time.

[SkyIScrape]

That beats the hell out of Sideshow's Bespin and Smuggler releases.

Really? Am I reading this correctly? People are saying this sculpt is bad? Or the figure offering as a whole?


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs26/f/2008/042/b/e/Sideshow_Han_Solo_portrait_by_trev_solo.jpg

I can't say that I agree at all. Sideshows paint may be crappy, but the Ford sculpt is near perfect. It's been said already referring to the HT Indy, but Kim's Han, five years old or not, looks more like Vic Armstrong than Harrison Ford. Maybe "garbage" is too harsh, but "beats the hell out of" is awfully strong too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/images/2008/05/09/vic_harrison_470_470x200.jpg

[JediMike71]

There's nothing wrong with Trevor Grove's AWESOME head sculpt for the "Tatooine Smuggler" Han Solo you show in those pictures. It just got ruined by Sideshow's horrible paint job! :monkey4 There's a great sculpt under that bad paint application. I have this figure, and want to repaint it someday soon.

[Deak Starkiller]

:lol
People use to rave about his sculpts back in the day before Trevor Grove swaggered into town and Sideshow announced its own plans for an Indy figure.
Do some digging and you'll see the post authors contemplating spending outrageous sums(in that day) for Kim recasts and originals to get their Indy and Solo fixes.
If HT lets the proto stand with out changes because its Arnie Kim they'll be making a big mistake.

:lecture

Do we even know beyond speculation if Kim is the sculptor?

If it's not, then I'll eat my hat. Look at the bridge of the nose and the mouth, it screams Kim. I'll be shocked if it isn't.

That beats the hell out of Sideshow's Bespin and Smuggler releases. I don't think "garbage" is being fair at all.

Well I don't like it but yeah garbage it's not.

[Mr.E]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/images/2008/05/09/vic_harrison_470_470x200.jpg

Where'd you get that nice clear picture of Harrison and Vic? That's awesome, thanks for posting that one.

[RJMacReady16]

Really? Am I reading this correctly? People are saying this sculpt is bad? Or the figure offering as a whole?



I guess my problem with that one, and maybe I haven't been looking in the right places, is that I have never seen even a repaint that does it much justice. It looks awesome in those photos, yeah. But on the figure, even with the few repaints I have seen, it just doesn't do it for me.

The Stormtrooper SS sculpt I am fond of though. But hey it's a "smirking sculpt" and I have a weird fascination with that.

[Cocoboloboy]

I guess my problem with that one, and maybe I haven't been looking in the right places, is that I have never seen even a repaint that does it much justice. It looks awesome in those photos, yeah. But on the figure, even with the few repaints I have seen, it just doesn't do it for me.

Not even mine?:(

[RJMacReady16]

Not even mine?:(

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ieqsyxnYlNo/ScgAMYzS7UI/AAAAAAAAFm0/FzliK7DQ0MU/s200/peter_griffin.jpg
Awkward....




Honestly, I can't say I recall seeing anyone's in particular except maybe Boot's? And I would imagine that dude would max out the potential on just about any sculpt.

[karamazov80]

I don't recall seeing a really great repaint of that sculpt, either, as good as it looks unpainted. But then, I haven't gone looking for the various repaints of that sculpt.

[SkyIScrape]

I guess my problem with that one, and maybe I haven't been looking in the right places, is that I have never seen even a repaint that does it much justice. It looks awesome in those photos, yeah. But on the figure, even with the few repaints I have seen, it just doesn't do it for me.

Alright, thanks for clearing it up, and that's fair. I'm a big fan of classical sculpture, so for modern comparative reasons I tend to like unpainted sculpts versus painted ones anyway :lol

Where'd you get that nice clear picture of Harrison and Vic? That's awesome, thanks for posting that one.

I nabbed the pic from this article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/articles/2008/05/09/vic_armstrong_stuntman_feature.___ml) about Vic.

Did you know he has an autobiography coming out in May? I'm pretty excited to read it.

[Mr.E]

Yes! That book is going to be an interesting read. The cover is great!

[Raymond Ferraro]

IMO Trev did not really nail Han until Stormtrooper ANH...

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/8053/picture18hj.png

[snoop101]

He looks kinda like a old lady in that picture.

[Mighty_Jabba]

I guess my problem with that one, and maybe I haven't been looking in the right places, is that I have never seen even a repaint that does it much justice. It looks awesome in those photos, yeah. But on the figure, even with the few repaints I have seen, it just doesn't do it for me.

The Stormtrooper SS sculpt I am fond of though. But hey it's a "smirking sculpt" and I have a weird fascination with that.

Darren Carnall's repaint is the best imho:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OjWQVnP7ShM/S1maWfxwZzI/AAAAAAAABD4/3HK3fKHa2zI/s400/20100121_11+%28Large%29.JPG

As is his Indy:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OjWQVnP7ShM/SWt5zsRpI-I/AAAAAAAAA1w/KR1QxwV_cLE/s400/indy+048+%28Medium%29.jpg

[Minimodel]

After the response the head received alone, I would have gone back to the drawing board immediately and called a meeting with Yulli and Arnie Kim. I wouldn't mind the new girl that did Taylor and Barnes either to do it. She's on a roll.

Thats what she said

[Master Wayne]

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/8053/picture18hj.png

He looks like my grandma. :lol
Someone please shop some gray hair and glasses onto this guy. :pray:

[Ven]

He looks like my grandma. :lol
Someone please shop some gray hair and glasses onto this guy. :pray:

lol^^^^


while I liek Tev's attempts, like alot of sideshow sculptures they're alittle caricature-ish.

it seems like they force their facial features too much for a likeness.

[small_studios]

Darren Carnall's repaint is the best imho:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OjWQVnP7ShM/S1maWfxwZzI/AAAAAAAABD4/3HK3fKHa2zI/s400/20100121_11+%28Large%29.JPG

As is his Indy:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OjWQVnP7ShM/SWt5zsRpI-I/AAAAAAAAA1w/KR1QxwV_cLE/s400/indy+048+%28Medium%29.jpg

I always loved Darrens Indy. :whip Now where are the official pics of this guy already:impatient:

[Teddy Daniels]

Darrens Indy is just beautiful! Was that a personal piece or does a boardie here have that?

[neo]

One another pic:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs523.ash1/30766_392967769118_316623114118_3829029_5880052_n. jpg

[Eamon]

Darren Carnall's repaint is the best imho:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OjWQVnP7ShM/S1maWfxwZzI/AAAAAAAABD4/3HK3fKHa2zI/s400/20100121_11+%28Large%29.JPG


Not sure about his Indy, but that is one of the finest Han Solo heads I have seen!!

[MarfMaster]

Darrens Indy is just beautiful! Was that a personal piece or does a boardie here have that?

It's a personal piece bud, I tried to get my Indy in line with him a while back but he's got a year long backlog :( I asked him to let me know if he ever considered selling his, he said it was very unlikely :lol

[galactiboy]

One another pic:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs523.ash1/30766_392967769118_316623114118_3829029_5880052_n. jpg

That looks very nice... what's the recipe?

[small_studios]

That looks very nice... what's the recipe?

Its all Sideshow gear. Resculpted neck on the original sculpt i believe.

[Mighty_Jabba]

That looks very nice... what's the recipe?

Check out his site:
http://www.darrencarnall.com/search?updated-max=2009-03-04T16%3A51%3A00Z&max-results=27

[cokebabies]

Not sure about his Indy, but that is one of the finest Han Solo heads I have seen!!

To me, that looks like James Mardsen in a wig.

[Batfreak]

so where is the "star wars teaser" in this thread?

btw, will the eyes be moveable? since its a DX i would expect that.

[mfisher]

That looks very nice... what's the recipe?

with the exception of one of my belts and holsters, that looks like all Sideshow clothing and bag with a repaint ( NICE repaint) on the head..

[karamazov80]

To me, that looks like James Mardsen in a wig.
I still say this one looks great unpainted, but loses the likeness when someone attempts to paint the eyes. Even great painters like Carnall can't seem to bring the Ford out in him, IMO.

[cokebabies]

I still say this one looks great unpainted, but loses the likeness when someone attempts to paint the eyes. Even great painters like Carnall can't seem to bring the Ford out in him, IMO.

I've definitely seen that a lot - an unpainted sculpt that looks absolutely dead-on, turned into a painted sculpt that looks pretty good or worse.

[JAROTO]

i just dont like the head sculpt.

[TheObsoleteMan]

There's never going to be a Ford sculpt that everyone agrees on no matter how good it is because everyone has their own idea in their mind's eye of what Harrison Ford "really" looks like.

[Johnny Utah]

Hot Toys will show us what he really looks like.

[galactiboy]

Check out his site:
http://www.darrencarnall.com/search?updated-max=2009-03-04T16%3A51%3A00Z&max-results=27

Wow, awesome work. So many little changes, but it adds up to one great looking figure.

Somehow I guess I missed his work on Indy :duh

[small_studios]

Hot Toys will show us what he really looks like.

As long as they do the fine tuning to the sculpt and the clothes. My guess is its going to be end of the month before they show the official pics.

[ink]

Hot Toys will show us what he really looks like.

I'm not really worried, if it's wrong, HT will fix it...this is a prototype after all

[Johnny Utah]

Got an email back from them saying we will get the specs soon. I heard from someone with HT connections that the sculpt is definitely being revised.

[Mad Old Lu]

Good to know. Thanks Johnny.

How reliable is your source, BTW?

[Teddy Daniels]

Got an email back from them saying we will get the specs soon. I heard from someone with HT connections that the sculpt is definitely being revised.

:panic: wonderful news thanks for the tip off :)

[luckysim]

Got an email back from them saying we will get the specs soon. I heard from someone with HT connections that the sculpt is definitely being revised.

Only the sculpt?

No word about the extras?

I know: :horse :D

[Snake Eater]

Source Johnny?

[small_studios]

Source Johnny?

Someone from Enterbay:lol

[Teddy Daniels]

Someone from Enterbay:lol

:lol:lol:lol:rotfl

[Platty]

I've never seen the films :monkey3
Raiders of the Lost Ark on BBC HD tonight! I didn't forget. :wave

[Johnny Utah]

Watching Raiders right now. Wookster told me about the revisions. I'd say he's pretty reliable.

[Snake Eater]

Thanks for confirming. He is a connected man indeed. Good news!

I'm watching it too. :D

[The Josh]

Good news. Not surprising but good news. I'm leaning now towards not getting this but depending on the sculpt changes I might swing back the other way.

[uzumaki_1]

lol just caught it on BBC 1 as well...though I watched it a couple of days ago already....anyways still good to see BBC spreading the Indy love !!!

[Snake Eater]

Temple of Doom is next Wednesday too. :yess:

[Platty]

Series link baby!

[DinoLast]

I thought Raiders looked great in HD. It's a shame that I can only imagine how good it would be on Blu-Ray

[Teddy Daniels]

I thought Raiders looked great in HD. It's a shame that I can only imagine how good it would be on Blu-Ray

All released this year on blu ray arnt they? :dunno

[MarfMaster]

All released this year on blu ray arnt they? :dunno

I sure as hell hope so :pray: GL has dragged his feet for far too long already.

[Teddy Daniels]

I sure as hell hope so :pray: GL has dragged his feet for far too long already.

I may be getting confused with SW :slap

[DinoLast]

I may be getting confused with SW :slap

Yeah it's Star Wars. Big announcement tomorrow as well

[SAB]

From what I've read, George got inspired after watching Avatar and the Indy moves are being remastered in 3D to be rereleased at the cinemas.

[MarfMaster]

From what I've read, George got inspired after watching Avatar and the Indy moves are being remastered in 3D to be rereleased at the cinemas.

Another format for him to cash in on! :panic:

Can't say I wouldn't love to see those in 3D though of course :slap

[The Entity]

From what I've read, George got inspired after watching Avatar and the Indy moves are being remastered in 3D to be rereleased at the cinemas.

Ugh... In my opinion they should leave the classics be as they are. Films like the Indy series were the classics of their time and have kept their value over the years.
Cashing in on them again by remastering them to 3D is just lame IMO... But then again it's Lucas isn't it... these days the man only seems to cash in on the raping of old successes instead of making something original...

[Lejuan]

Remastered in 3D, what a complete waste of time. Either go back and shoot the whole thing using the right gear or don't bother. This man lost the plot with Jar Jar and evidently is yet to recover it.

[Deak Starkiller]

From what I've read, George got inspired after watching Avatar and the Indy moves are being remastered in 3D to be rereleased at the cinemas.

Lame. 3D is a novelty at best, adds nothing to the actual movies.

[MarfMaster]

I'm not saying I want GL to alter the Indy movies in any way, I don't think 3D counts as changing the film. I see it as experiencing the original films we love so much in a way we never have before...what's wrong with that? :dunno

[small_studios]

Stop bumping this thread unless you're posting pics of the DX Indy:lol

[Deak Starkiller]

I'm not saying I want GL to alter the Indy movies in any way, I don't think 3D counts as changing the film. I see it as experiencing the original films we love so much in a way we never have before...what's wrong with that? :dunno

Nothing, I like Marf. :wave

Stop bumping this thread unless you're posting pics of the DX Indy:lol

:goodpost:

[RIDDICK]

Stop bumping this thread unless you're posting pics of the DX Indy:lol

http://bobbleheadsofcelebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Buddy_christ.jpg

[Matt S]

Dude, I hope they knocked this one out of the park - once revisions are shown

I really want a badass looking Hot Toys Indy....hell, they could actually sculpt a decent Dr. René Belloq, unlike Sideshow

[Rzeznikk]

Dude, I hope they knocked this one out of the park - once revisions are shown

I really want a badass looking Hot Toys Indy....hell, they could actually sculpt a decent Dr. René Belloq, unlike Sideshow

Agreed! HT really needs to get this one right. :goodpost:

[Lejuan]

I'm not saying I want GL to alter the Indy movies in any way, I don't think 3D counts as changing the film. I see it as experiencing the original films we love so much in a way we never have before...what's wrong with that? :dunno

Because it's crap 3D that's why. Instead of shooting scenes with a 3D camera, it'll all be done post-production. The difference in the film experience is the former (a la Avatar) provides a genuine feeling of depth throughout every scene element while the latter (a la Alice in Wonderland) looks like a pop-up book.

We're being sold a dodgy product so George Lucas can line his pockets by rehashing a masterpiece that should be left alone. Oh well, what else is new... I suppose we can expect to see Han Solo shooting second in glorious half-baked 3D in the next season or two.

[Wor-Gar]

We're being sold a dodgy product so George Lucas can line his pockets by rehashing a masterpiece that should be left alone.

As much as I think Star Wars is the perfect vessel for 3D, I do agree that the poor films should be left alone already.

Want 3D Star Wars, make another damn movie. You don't need to do a trilogy every time.

[MarfMaster]

Because it's crap 3D that's why. Instead of shooting scenes with a 3D camera, it'll all be done post-production. The difference in the film experience is the former (a la Avatar) provides a genuine feeling of depth throughout every scene element while the latter (a la Alice in Wonderland) looks like a pop-up book.

We're being sold a dodgy product so George Lucas can line his pockets by rehashing a masterpiece that should be left alone. Oh well, what else is new... I suppose we can expect to see Han Solo shooting second in glorious half-baked 3D in the next season or two.

I don't care if if the movies don't take full advantage of 3D and match up to today's "shot for 3D" films. It will still be a new way of watching the Indy movies which, after watching them on vhs and DVD more times than I care to count, is very welcome. Bring on the "pop-up book" Indy trilogy I say, if I don't like it I'll continue watching them in the old format. As long as he's not changing the content of them film I'm fine.

[RJMacReady16]

If we're talking another theatrical release for the Indy saga, then I don't give a ____ what format it's in. I'm there.

Hurry HT....

[Terminator_Fan_Game]

I don't care if if the movies don't take full advantage of 3D and match up to today's "shot for 3D" films. It will still be a new way of watching the Indy movies which, after watching them on vhs and DVD more times than I care to count, is very welcome. Bring on the "pop-up book" Indy trilogy I say, if I don't like it I'll continue watching them in the old format. As long as he's not changing the content of them film I'm fine.

Agreed.
Although I have to admit he is milking it.

[MaulFan]

I would like to see Indy get another theatrical run, just because Crystal Skull is the only one I've seen on the big screen and that just can't be.

[Lejuan]

I don't care if if the movies don't take full advantage of 3D and match up to today's "shot for 3D" films. It will still be a new way of watching the Indy movies which, after watching them on vhs and DVD more times than I care to count, is very welcome. Bring on the "pop-up book" Indy trilogy I say, if I don't like it I'll continue watching them in the old format. As long as he's not changing the content of them film I'm fine.

Don't bank on this not happening either :lol

[CyberVillain]

I would like to see Indy get another theatrical run, just because Crystal Skull is the only one I've seen on the big screen and that just can't be.

This is the reason why I own a Home Cinema projector model bigger:P

[cplhicks]

I missed the the first 3 Indy flims in the theatres.

If they release them in theaters I'll be all over that like stink on a hog.

[EXOTICLEX]

Only one I didn't see in theater that I can remember is ROTLA. TOD I was very young but do remember. TLC I remember like it was yesterday. And of course KOTCS. But my very favorite memory ROTLA is going to MGM studios and seeing the Indiana Jones show they had there.

[NO FAT CHICKS]

This figure rocks

[Raymond Ferraro]

It does???

[Something Sexy]

It does???

Fat chicks rock too!

[Kuat of Kuat]

It does???

Only if you don't stand him up properly.

Fat chicks rock too!

And wobble.

[Deckard]

Indy has gotta be the most replayed at theatres movies. You can find one of the movies playing in a major city somewhere almost any weekend. Check out The Raider's forums for showtimes.

I've seen all three films here in Jersey and in Philly over the past two years.

[rushmore223]

I don't care if if the movies don't take full advantage of 3D and match up to today's "shot for 3D" films. It will still be a new way of watching the Indy movies which, after watching them on vhs and DVD more times than I care to count, is very welcome. Bring on the "pop-up book" Indy trilogy I say, if I don't like it I'll continue watching them in the old format. As long as he's not changing the content of them film I'm fine.

Well since Indy is essentially a collaborative effort between Lucas and Spielberg, I doubt that Spielberg would agree to any alterations outside the inclusion of any deleted scenes, if they exist.

EDIT ~ Then again, didn't Spielberg add some CG to the Anniversary release of E.T.? I recall reading it somewhere, but I never saw the anniversary edition.

[Deckard]

The SE DVDs of Indy have already been retouched with CGI, look at the scene in the Truck Chase of Raiders when Gobler drives off the cliff.

[CelticPredator]

Lame. 3D is a novelty at best, adds nothing to the actual movies.

Sort of disagree. In Tron the 3D was used pretty well. It was 2D in the real world, and then exploded into 3D when he entered the computer world. One of the few times 3D actually DID enhance the story.

[SAB]

Well since Indy is essentially a collaborative effort between Lucas and Spielberg, I doubt that Spielberg would agree to any alterations outside the inclusion of any deleted scenes, if they exist.

EDIT ~ Then again, didn't Spielberg add some CG to the Anniversary release of E.T.? I recall reading it somewhere, but I never saw the anniversary edition.

Spielberg removed the guns from the agents hands and replaced them with walkie talkies :D

Crystal Skull should be all the indication you need that he doesn't care that much.

[Johnny Utah]

Spielberg was bullied into making Crystal Skull. There's an interview where he says he was tired of aliens but Lucas nagged him to do it.

[MaulFan]

Yeah, I was surprised comments like that were right in the BTS interviews on the DVD, but Spielberg talks about fighting Lucas on the alien thing and you could tell he just caved to get the movie moving forward.

[CelticPredator]

Spielberg was bullied into making Crystal Skull. There's an interview where he says he was tired of aliens but Lucas nagged him to do it.

I believe him. Steven isnt an idiot. Lucus is. People give Steven unessesary hate over the movie. He did the best he could with a nagging douch on his side.

[Master Wayne]

I hate that fat ____ Lucas.

[The Batman Professor]

"That fat ___ Lucas," as you call him, created Indiana Jones and Star Wars, so whether you agree with his creative decisions or not, it's of little consequence to most of us here.

[Master Wayne]

He's still a lazy, money hungry, no talent. I credit his best works to other individuals working around and beside him, such as, oh I don't know, Steven Spielberg.

[EXOTICLEX]

I think they'll make another Indy movie and it will be glorious...

[Kuat of Kuat]

He's still a lazy, money hungry, no talent. I credit his best works to other individuals working around and beside him, such as, oh I don't know, Steven Spielberg.

He even put his name on the cover of the Star Wars novel, though it was ghost written by Alan Dean Foster. Lucas is an ideas guy. He relies on others to flesh things out.

Lucas' ideas have been a little wild, especially since the Star Wars Special Editions.

[Master Wayne]

He even put his name on the cover of the Star Wars novel, though it was ghost written by Alan Dean Foster. Lucas is an ideas guy. He relies on others to flesh things out.

Lucas' ideas have been a little wild, especially since the Star Wars Special Editions.

Yeah, I agree with that.

[TheObsoleteMan]

Lucas has always been a better idea man than a writer or director. The difference between the good movies of the past that those ideas produced and the junk he turns out now, is that he's become so powerful that no one can tell him that some of those ideas are bad and convince him not to use them.

[Kuat of Kuat]

The way I see it is that Lucas makes the movies he wants to watch, with little consideration for the intended audience. Hence, in older age he amended his view of Han Solo's roguishness, and introduced more childish comedy in both the Star Wars prequels and in KOTCS. Not that I view KOTCS as a bad movie, but just not in the league of ROTLA. Too many unnecessary 'crowd pleasing' spectacles, which didn't find favour with a lot of hard-bitten Indy fans.

[Deckard]

"That fat ___ Lucas," as you call him, created Indiana Jones and Star Wars, so whether you agree with his creative decisions or not, it's of little consequence to most of us here.

Well he created Indiana Smith starring Tom Selleck.

I give him as much credit for Indy as I do Dan Aykroyd for creating Ghostbusters. Dan created the concept set in a futuristic alternate reality and starred Eddie Murphy and Jeff Goldblum, Harold came in and told him he was a giant dork and that he needed to tone that ____ down to make it a success.

Steve is responsible for casting Harrison and changing the name, not to mention bringing his direction to Indy. Lucas is more of the idea man. Hell Darabont deserves more credit for Indy's actual success.

And Star Wars is gay.

[Deckard]

Lucas has always been a better idea man than a writer or director. The difference between the good movies of the past that those ideas produced and the junk he turns out now, is that he's become so powerful that no one can tell him that some of those ideas are bad and convince him not to use them.

Bingo was his name-o. He won't even listen to Steven and Harrison anymore, he only listens to Ben Franklin.

I'll remember him as a washed up idea man who was too proud to admit he didn't know better.

[MarfMaster]

It's true to an extent, Lucas was the spark, but the brilliant people he surrounded himself with were the ones that fleshed out his ideas and brought them to life.

[Wor-Gar]

:lol

Great stuff above.

Too bad about Lucas, but it happens to them all, some worse than others.

There's no denying Star Wars brilliance, borrowed or not. Lucas made an Empire out of that "idea". Same with Indy. His idea. He approved everything and was smart enough back then to recognize better ideas.

That's his biggest problem now: he doesn't think anyone has better ideas than himself. He wants to rule over the SW Pequels by writing and directing (neither are his strengths by his own admission in 1980) and most recently strong-armed Steven (his once trusted ally) into doing a mediocre Indy knock-off his way or no way at all. And what do we have to show for it: very mediocre movies that only succeed in their attachment to films much greater.

[Star Puffs]

I fully agree with the above posts regarding Lucas.

He created something along with dozens of artists, effects wizards and others. Lucas disrespects their efforts by actively suppressing/destroying their work in the case of the original trilogy.

It was a great day when Lucas lost to Shepperton Design Studios in court in the UK.

[Wor-Gar]

It was a great day when Lucas lost to Shepperton Design Studios in court in the UK.

I didn't hear about this, what's the story?

[JediMike71]

Yeah, what's up? I haven't heard about this either. :dunno

[Lejuan]

Type 'George Lucas' and 'Hack' into google :lol

[mfisher]

Lawsuit is regarding unlicensed replicas... brings jurisdiction into question.. interesting suit... looks as though it is continuing up the pipe to higher court now...


http://www.originalprop.com/blog/2011/01/06/lucasfilm-vs-ainsworth-legal-battle-continues-in-2011-uk-supreme-court-case-to-be-heard-in-march/#more-23570

[Star Puffs]

I didn't hear about this, what's the story?

Yeah, what's up? I haven't heard about this either. :dunno

Shepperton designed the Stormtrooper armour, TIE Fighter pilot helmet and, I believe, the X-Wing helmets off of the design concepts. There is a really neat photo I saw once of all the helmets stacked up outside his studio in 1976.

He started reproducing them in several years ago based on his original molds and Lucas sued him predictably. Lucas won in the states but lost in court in the UK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepperton_Design_Studios

[The Josh]

Makes sense he'd win here and lose there.

[Wor-Gar]

Yeah, in this case I'd have to side with George I think.

Or maybe McQuarrie should have sued both Shepperton AND George for stealing a look/concept design that he actually finalized.

[Full Art Alchemist]

Lucas is a God!

[SAB]

Lucas is a God!

A gods power goes on forever.

George's faded to the point of the Star Wars prequels.

[D'oh!]

Spielberg removed the guns from the agents hands and replaced them with walkie talkies


At least when Spielberg put ET onto DVD, he included the original, unaltered version. He didn't make people beg like Lucas did (does) for the original Original Trilogy.

That said, even if Spielberg "caved" on introducing aliens into the Indiana Jones universe, I still put that on him, not Lucas. At the end of the day, he should've stood his ground and told Georgie to go stuff it.

Anyway, the Hot Toys figure looks good, but I don't think I can justify spending the dough when I'm quite content with Sideshow's version.

[Koupon]

A gods power goes on forever.

George's faded to the point of the Star Wars prequels.


:goodpost::exactly::lsvader

[Mr. Fusion]

He won't even listen to Steven and Harrison anymore, he only listens to Ben Franklin.

And what's wrong with Ben Franklin?:monkey3

A gods power goes on forever.

George's faded to the point of the Star Wars prequels.

:lol:lol:lol

[DinoLast]

A gods power goes on forever.

George's faded to the point of the Star Wars prequels.

Tell that to his bank manager, and the millions of children that collect Clone Wars and Star Wars figures, and to all the people who will buy the Blu-Rays, and the thousands that go to the Celebrations.

Also check out his interview with Jon Stewart at the last Celebration, and the audience reaction when he makes an off the cuff remark about making another movie.

[Master Wayne]

Lucas is a God!

I'm sure he would agree with you.

On topic, I really want this figure! Recently sold my SS Indy, so the timing couldn't have been better.

[CelticPredator]

At least when Spielberg put ET onto DVD, he included the original, unaltered version. He didn't make people beg like Lucas did (does) for the original Original Trilogy.

That said, even if Spielberg "caved" on introducing aliens into the Indiana Jones universe, I still put that on him, not Lucas. At the end of the day, he should've stood his ground and told Georgie to go stuff it.

Anyway, the Hot Toys figure looks good, but I don't think I can justify spending the dough when I'm quite content with Sideshow's version.

Spielburg wanted to make the movie. Lucas wouldnt let him unless it was done his way. So....you have to please a ____ing idiot in order to do what you're interested.

I'm sorry, but that's no way to work. I know he loves his pal, but kick that loon out....:lecture

[SAB]

Tell that to his bank manager, and the millions of children that collect Clone Wars and Star Wars figures, and to all the people who will buy the Blu-Rays, and the thousands that go to the Celebrations.

Also check out his interview with Jon Stewart at the last Celebration, and the audience reaction when he makes an off the cuff remark about making another movie.

You're really arguing with me here? Seriously?
Are you actually listing the financial success of Clone War toys as proof Lucas's once legendary abilities haven't faded? I don't know what to say to that.

And I'll buy the Star Wars blu-ray set like most people. Are we buying it because its the complete set or because we must have the prequel movies?

Are the people attending the 'celebrations' because of his movies in the last 10 years or the ones from 20-30 years ago?

The people cheering about an off the cuff remark, like all the rest of us will always live in hope that the next one HAS to be better.
We all live in hope at the apparently happening Indy 5.

How loud do you think the cheering would be if he followed up the off the cuff remark with 'hopefully I can match the heights of the prequel trilogy but I don't know!' ?

Ability fades in the creative fields over time for all but a few exceptions. Not just films, the same goes for writers, artists, and musicians.

[RJMacReady16]

Pics.....

PIIICS!

[DinoLast]

Figure seems to be having an overhall, or we would have seen it by now, I think the same can be said for Alice. I don't think we will see Thor again until the movie is upon us
And as for Star Wars, I'm sure we will see announcement just before we get woken up

[Johnny Utah]

I hope Howard does an interview in Milk saying they'll make a TOD Indy as well.

[small_studios]

Figure seems to be having an overhall, or we would have seen it by now, I think the same can be said for Alice. I don't think we will see Thor again until the movie is upon us
And as for Star Wars, I'm sure we will see announcement just before we get woken up

Im sure the sculpt is being revisited. Also it has to have the once over from the Lucas rep.

[small_studios]

I hope Howard does an interview in Milk saying they'll make a TOD Indy as well.

That would be nice but you could easily just bash your own.

[DinoLast]

That would be nice but you could easily just bash your own.

http://www.ryanlytle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/0000007501_20060920143802.jpg

[hunnipot85]

I hope Howard does an interview in Milk saying they'll make a TOD Indy as well.

Me too. I think if they gave him a part of the bridge as a base/dio with a back drop it would look awesome!

[mfisher]

Granted you can bash a good TOD Indy on your own... but I'd rather see them take a shot at it.. ( especially if it is a DX as well.. ( Tux Indy please ?!?!) Plus if they would do their research there are subtle differences in the costuming.. fedora style.. pant, shirt color etc.. belts, holster etc... would be awesome if they could actually get all of that right too...

[MarfMaster]

Granted you can bash a good TOD Indy on your own... but I'd rather see them take a shot at it.. ( especially if it is a DX as well.. ( Tux Indy please ?!?!) Plus if they would do their research there are subtle differences in the costuming.. fedora style.. pant, shirt color etc.. belts, holster etc... would be awesome if they could actually get all of that right too...

I agree, if the details are there...this first attempt doesn't show much promise in that respect though :slap I'm sure the sculpt is being tweaked, not quite as sure the outfit will get the same attention though.

[Johnny Utah]

Can't wait for the day when they show this revised sculpt...I was talking to Trevor and he said there are a few alterations like the bridge of his nose and his top lip needed to make it perfect. I just had to hear his two cents on HT's effort.

[Bucky Underbelly]

Can't wait for the day when they show this revised sculpt...I was talking to Trevor and he said there are a few alterations like the bridge of his nose and his top lip needed to make it perfect. I just had to hear his two cents on HT's effort.

Wow. It would be great to have his blessing on the final sculpt.

But is HT officially consulting Trevor on this?

[Johnny Utah]

No. I just e-mailed him to hear his thoughts. He is the first artist to nail Harrison Ford's likeness to a tee. I hope Yulli or whoever is doing the HT sculpt lives up to his high standard.

[rebelpig]

They have no excuse for getting anything wrong on this figure. After all all the R&D has been done, if they care to look through the work of the very talented Indy customisers here.

[small_studios]

I have faith the final figure will be a home run, sculpt and all.

[cplhicks]

I have faith the final figure will be a home run, sculpt and all.

Me too. :)

[SwedishHeat]

They have no excuse for getting anything wrong on this figure. After all all the R&D has been done, if they care to look through the work of the very talented Indy customisers here.

People on the Internet have no idea how much these companies care about getting it right.

The fact of the matter is, these customizers are spending hundreds of dollars on an individual figure which is just not realistic for a company to do. mfisher prides himself on an extremely quick turnaround for his gearbelts, like a week or so for one set (probably less than that even). . . now multiply that time, times 4,000 figures. . . and that's just on the belts. There HAS to be sacrifices somewhere.

The expectations on this figure are crazy unrealistic.

[thedarkknight]

People on the Internet have no idea how much these companies care about getting it right.

The fact of the matter is, these customizers are spending hundreds of dollars on an individual figure which is just not realistic for a company to do. mfisher prides himself on an extremely quick turnaround for his gearbelts, like a week or so for one set (probably less than that even). . . now multiply that time, times 4,000 figures. . . and that's just on the belts. There HAS to be sacrifices somewhere.

The expectations on this figure are crazy unrealistic.

:goodpost::clap

[OMG]

Just find out this DX is sculpt by Arnie Kim :horror:horror:horror

[rebelpig]

People on the Internet have no idea how much these companies care about getting it right.

The fact of the matter is, these customizers are spending hundreds of dollars on an individual figure which is just not realistic for a company to do. mfisher prides himself on an extremely quick turnaround for his gearbelts, like a week or so for one set (probably less than that even). . . now multiply that time, times 4,000 figures. . . and that's just on the belts. There HAS to be sacrifices somewhere.

The expectations on this figure are crazy unrealistic.

You know, Why do people on these boards always take things the wrong way. I was simply saying in as concise and complimentary way that all a company has to do to get this figure right, (which I've no doubt they will,.... I'm waiting to order this!) is look at the FANTASTIC work that a variety of customisers have done and do that on an industrial level.
There was nothing negative in that post, but 'people' on the internet always seem to take everything the wrong way.

[Johnny Utah]

Just find out this DX is sculpt by Arnie Kim :horror:horror:horror

Any idea when we will see the final sculpt OMG?

[cking]

Well, let's hope he gets it right second time around! His Bruce Lee's are superb but currently, Trevor Grove is leagues ahead of him when it comes to capturing Ford's likeness.


Just find out this DX is sculpt by Arnie Kim :horror:horror:horror

[Snake Eater]

Just find out this DX is sculpt by Arnie Kim :horror:horror:horror

Was pretty much a given, but good to have confirmation.

How do you know OMG?

[Wor-Gar]

I could care less who sculpts it -- I just want it to look good.

And I want to see pics already dammit. :D

Good to know they're working on it though.

[Johnny Utah]

The wait is acceptable when we know that sculpt is being revised. Looking forward to the final version and the Harrison Fordisms.

[Raymond Ferraro]

You want my honest opinion? I may get heat for this but from what I've seen I think Arnie Kim is the master of Bruce Lee... but it's the ONLY likeness I've ever seen him get right

I knew right away he sculpted this, it looks very much like the one he did a few years back... This is one they really should have given to those with the proven track record i.e,. Yuli

[Wor-Gar]

No heat -- I agree.

[MaulFan]

Ever sculptor has their hits and misses. I think Yulli does great with Arnie, Stallone and Ledger Joker, but she couldn't get Bale in 2 attempts and other than the Cannibal portrait, her Jack Sparrow's weren't the best. Kojun's Stallone is great, but his Bale and Jackman are iffy.

In this case, I think Ford's a tricky head for any sculptor, and I'd think his crooked nose probably adds a real challenge for people where most portraits are more symetrical. That's why I applaud Trev's work, is it flawless, perhaps not, but he captures him far better than anyone else I've ever seen sculpt Ford.

[JRL]

You want my honest opinion? I may get heat for this but from what I've seen I think Arnie Kim is the master of Bruce Lee... but it's the ONLY likeness I've ever seen him get right

I knew right away he sculpted this, it looks very much like the one he did a few years back... This is one they really should have given to those with the proven track record i.e,. Yuli

Agreed too, just imaging the pressure he has with the Chris Reeve Superman :(

[MaulFan]

Agreed too, just imaging the pressure he has with the Chris Reeve Superman :(

And that was the figure used to hype his coming to HT.

[JRL]

i am getting worried about this i know that everything isn't perfect but that Superman has to be done the right way, imaging if not everybody will be trashing HT for a long time.....there's to much expectation!!

[MaulFan]

There's more motivation for a certain quality with Supes, it's a rarely made figure, but Indy, it's been done many times, this is but another, if it's not the end all be all, I'm sure HT's aware from sites like this that folks bash Indy's and their figure would have as much value as custom parts as a figure by itself.

[Misterscruff]

You want my honest opinion? I may get heat for this but from what I've seen I think Arnie Kim is the master of Bruce Lee... but it's the ONLY likeness I've ever seen him get right

I knew right away he sculpted this, it looks very much like the one he did a few years back... This is one they really should have given to those with the proven track record i.e,. Yuli

:exactly: I completely agree; I've not been impressed by any of his sculpts so far except for the Bruce Lee. Sculpting a likeness of a real person is a really difficult job which I fully appreciate, but I think they needed to go with a sculptor who had a good track record with Ford's likeness, and for me the only one who has that is Trevor.

[cking]

I agree but let's give Arnie Kim a chance to see what he can do with a revised sculpt. Trev's work will really take some beating though so Arnie's got his work cut out for him.

:exactly: I completely agree; I've not been impressed by any of his sculpts so far except for the Bruce Lee. Sculpting a likeness of a real person is a really difficult job which I fully appreciate, but I think they needed to go with a sculptor who had a good track record with Ford's likeness, and for me the only one who has that is Trevor.

[devilof76]

Damn it. I missed the anti-Lucas circlejerk? Lame.

[DinoLast]

You want my honest opinion? I may get heat for this but from what I've seen I think Arnie Kim is the master of Bruce Lee... but it's the ONLY likeness I've ever seen him get right
I knew right away he sculpted this, it looks very much like the one he did a few years back... This is one they really should have given to those with the proven track record i.e,. Yuli


I totally disagree

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[Johnny Utah]

His Fords can be way better. I really hope he nails the Indy sculpt.

[Lejuan]

http://www.enterbay.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/bean3.jpg

[Johnny Utah]

Ok Bean is good. But all of his Fords are missing the mark so far.

[DinoLast]

Ok Bean is good. But all of his Fords are missing the mark so far.

Tervor Grove's Fords were as about the same as Arnie's at the time Arnie made his. It's only when the Indiana Jones PF came out that Trevor got it spot on

[Johnny Utah]

I just woke up this morning and had a panic attack that Arnie's final Indy sculpt will be subpar. I need a bit of reassurance like an in-progress pic from Arnie or some kind of update from HT that it'll kick ***. Is anyone else worried? Indy is like a Grail piece and in this quality I hope HT tweak and tweak it until it's damn near perfect.

I've seen some pics of Bruce Lee sculpts on Arnie's blog and they look photorealistic. I wouldn't mind that level of detail on Indy.

[small_studios]

I just woke up this morning and had a panic attack that Arnie's final Indy sculpt will be subpar. I need a bit of reassurance like an in-progress pic from Arnie or some kind of update from HT that it'll kick ***. Is anyone else worried? Indy is like a Grail piece and in this quality I hope HT tweak and tweak it until it's damn near perfect.

I've seen some pics of Bruce Lee sculpts on Arnie's blog and they look photorealistic. I wouldn't mind that level of detail on Indy.

If your having a panic attack over a fig you need to get out more :lol But yes it is a bit concerning that we havn't seen anything since the show. However that may be a good thing. With all the feedback from the show on the likeness im sure they are touching it up. I mean it only needed very minor tweeking.

[Snake Eater]

I've had confirmation from Arnie that he is working on this.

[TheObsoleteMan]

http://blog.dreamwiz.com/usr/g/u/gud2js/1/gud2js_20080924214730_7850583_1.jpg

I want that figure sooo bad. :monkey2

[Wor-Gar]

I've had confirmation from Arnie that he is working on this.

Tell him to stop confirming and get to work. Please.

:D

[EVILFACE]

I've had confirmation from Arnie that he is working on this.

no way!!

[Johnny Utah]

Snake - can you ask him when it might be unveiled? I sent him loads of reference from Raiders. I really hope he nails all the nuances that make him Henry Jones Jr. Any info would be fantastic.

[Sachiel]

Damn it. I missed the anti-Lucas circlejerk? Lame.


Don't worry. There will be another eventually. :cool:

[DinoLast]

Snake-Do you have naked pictures of Arnie in the shower or something, because he never gives anything away to anybody else?




:wink1: jk

[DinoLast]

Arnie has put a message on his Facebook that says, Indy Running now. Not sure what that means, maybe it means it's ready to show?

[devilof76]

Don't worry. There will be another eventually. :cool:

I have my bucket of ice water ready. :cool:

[The Josh]

The more I think about it with the looks that the LOTR statue line is gonna really get off the ground and HT Marvel keeps going along. I think I just might pass on this piece. I'm quite happy with my Indy figures from Sideshow and the price I think this will come in at just makes me go "eh".

[lt0778]

The more I think about it with the looks that the LOTR statue line is gonna really get off the ground and HT Marvel keeps going along. I think I just might pass on this piece. I'm quite happy with my Indy figures from Sideshow and the price I think this will come in at just makes me go "eh".

your right their are alot of collectors out their that have a indy in their collection so this has to wow everyone or it's not gonna take off as expected. it will sell, theirs still alot of collectors who don't have indy yet. i'm one of them so i will be picking this guy up.

[JRL]

Arnie has put a message on his Facebook that says, Indy Running now. Not sure what that means, maybe it means it's ready to show?

what about Chris reeve is he "flying now"???:mad::mad::gah:

btw the last PF of Indy looks great (except the paint job) but you have to understand that a 1/4th scale is easy than a 1/6th scale to sculpt

[The Josh]

your right their are alot of collectors out their that have a indy in their collection so this has to wow everyone or it's not gonna take off as expected. it will sell, theirs still alot of collectors who don't have indy yet. i'm one of them so i will be picking this guy up.

Right and I expect this will sell well enough for sure and knowing HT it will be a awesome figure. Just got a lot to factor in for me at least.

[Raymond Ferraro]

Bottom line is you know it's going to be a good figure. A better figure than Sideshow is able to produce. But at this rate it looks like it is going to be on of their worst... Sideshow had a better likeness and many collectors were able to make a better looking figure that what Hot Toys just showed us, by upgrading a bunch of parts including ones from HT themselves.

They needed to knock it out of the park... instead they got to first base ... maybe.

They have track record at improving what they first show, but at this rate they got to get Arnie off and give it to someone else. Without the likeness it's really nothing at all, Indy is Harrison Ford and the HT head is not Harrison.

[Johnny Utah]

I agree it would have been an idea to get someone else to sculpt it. His Bruce Lees are amazing. If he can bring that level of detail and accuracy to Ford my faith will be restored.

[Snake Eater]

Snake - can you ask him when it might be unveiled? I sent him loads of reference from Raiders. I really hope he nails all the nuances that make him Henry Jones Jr. Any info would be fantastic.

I'll ask him tonight Johnny. :)

[Johnny Utah]

Thanks pal :-)

[aeumuse]

Pics courtesy of PLASTICENEMIES at sina.com,

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[TheObsoleteMan]

Is that the new sculpt or the old one? That looks horrrible.

[Sined]

Sculpt doesn't look good. And this wrestler's neck again...

[cplhicks]

I like how HT added chest hair.

Nice little detail.

[TheObsoleteMan]

Yeah, definite win on the chest hair. Hat looks way better too.

That sculpt though. :monkey4

[RJMacReady16]

That's the same sculpt, I think.

But lined-up next to the other Indy's he looks really good.

[TheObsoleteMan]

That's the same sculpt, I think.

If it's the old sculpt then I'm eating a huge plate of crow 'cause I thought it looked good.

[Mightytrex]

It better be the same sculpt! :gah:

[RJMacReady16]

Man I think it is, of course I'm no insider. Looks kinda like a recast of the same old Arnie Kim sculpt with better paint, like the one at the show did.

[MaulFan]

Hat and the way it sits on the head look horrible to me.

[TheObsoleteMan]

These new pics have really killed what buzz I had going for this thing. It's just wildly unimpressive.

[Batty]

The hat better sit on his head better. It just looks weird in those pics.

[Darthrazz]

Wow....I'll just stick to my customized Sideshow Indy. I might pick up a few of the accessories depending if they are improvements over the sideshow ones.....really had high hopes for this.

[HigHurtenflurst]

Questionable sculpt aside, the hat is completely wrong and that = EPIC FAIL.

[gunm]

Seems like they are using the original sculpt on the Dastan body for that pic.

[Wor-Gar]

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/6a853733jw6ddi14t86qsj.jpg

Not feeling it.

Hat looks like its floating.

THAT face is NOT Harrison Ford any more than Toys McCoy is.

Belts are still wrong color, wrong size for Raiders.


This figure is good for the shirt, body and maybe the jacket -- use SS for the rest.

Disappointed so far. Best part of this figure is the shirt to me.

[JosephCPR]

It doesn't looks as bad as you are pretending him to be. Obviously it is not perfect but you have to consider that the pics are not the best and the lightning is too white, which usually makes everything look much worse (hidden details etc).

Overall I like it, although some tweaks would be appreciated.

[The Josh]

I'm going to assume thats still what we saw at the HT Show. Which at least at this point my feelings are the same as it was then. Waiting to see the tweaked version.

[Deak Starkiller]

Looks better in this light but still needs some work.

[mfisher]

... wow... yeah.. a loose parts buy for me if that is the final.... (bag strap looks like crap too... win for me :lol )

[MarfMaster]

Wow, major bummer. The sculpt is still way off, and the outfit is still horrid (save for the shirt and Aldens).

[EVILFACE]

Meh, looks good to me.

The PERS eyes look great in that first pic.

[DinoLast]

Pics courtesy of PLASTICENEMIES at sina.com,

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It looks way more like Ford than anything else I have seen in 1/6. :dunno

And compared to the other figures, it's the only one that looks like a real person.

The only thing that I think needs fixing is the hat

[plasmid303]

As a casual fan, I think the HT looks the best out of the line-up.



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[Batty]

We should be seeing the official stats and pics soon. I'm still optimistic.

[EVILFACE]

It looks way more like Ford than anything else I have seen in 1/6. :dunno

And compared to the other figures, it's the only one that looks like a real person.

The only thing that I think needs fixing is the hat

As a casual fan, I think the HT looks the best out of the line-up.

I agree. He looks real while the others look like the dolls.

[Mad Old Lu]

In that lineup, the HT is definitely best, but still has considerable shortcomings. It looks like the same sculpt we saw before, which is off. The hat looks pretty bad, and I'm really not liking the jacket material (too shiny), bag strap (way too shiny) and whip (looks cheap and the weaving didn't scale down well).

HT was smart to do that lineup, though. It really makes it look head and shoulders better. But still not at the level one would expect from HT.

And wow. SS's Indy paintjob look abominable! Just take a look at Greggo's repaint in the custom thread and you'll see the spectacular Trevor sculpt that is unmistakably Ford.

[The Mike]

The hat is horrible but overall its the best I've seen, makes Sideshow's which was the bar for a while look like crap and that is shocking.

[FLOSI]

Well, we'll see soon enough.

They should never have done a removable hat.

[SAB]

The chest and body detail visible is interesting. Not necessary for Raiders - looks like they may already be setting up things for the Temple figure later instead of having to rework.

[small_studios]

Pics courtesy of PLASTICENEMIES at sina.com,

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This looks all kinds of goofy. For one the hat as mentioned is about to rocket of his head. The shoes look like swollen potatoes. The Clothes are not tailored right. They appear huge on the body. Seriously i hope this is a joke.

[SAB]

He looks like the original art sketches - when Indy was a giant muscle man, before they'd chosen Ford.

The Sideshow version on the left looks the best to me out of those 4.

[plasmid303]

The body looks to be the same one that was used for the Wolverine and Prince Dastan figures, if the upper torso is anything to go by.

[The Mike]

The Sideshow figure looks futzed with, I have this figure and it didn't look like that out of the box. The HT figure isn't, look at the jacket, it isn't even on the torso right...

[Johnny Utah]

Looks ok. Definitely the one from the show. Waiting for Arnie's redo.

[elvis1976]

THis doesn't looks like ford at all.
The jacket isn't well tailored and the shiny leathe rlike material doens't look right.
And those shoes wooooow would have been better sculpted boots IMO.

[Deckard]

The body is just huge, way way way too big to be Ford, Indy or anyone in the franchise short of Pat Roach as the German Mechanic and Giant Thuggee.

Look at pics of Harry on the Raiders set, hes skinny, with little muscle. His neck on the figure looks like ____ing Mickey Rourke's.

Hat looks ok but the way it sits on his head is mental. The jacket also needs to be futzed better but I think alot of the clothing issues are because of the roid body. If he comes with that thing its getting swapped out immediately for a regular TT.

[small_studios]

THis doesn't looks like ford at all.
The jacket isn't well tailored and the shiny leathe rlike material doens't look right.
And those shoes wooooow would have been better sculpted boots IMO.

Thank you about the sculpted boots. Sideshow boots are about as screen accurate as you can get. The shape is just about perfect. I honestly hope to god they are reworking this guy. If not they downgraded big time. Give us a figure like the T-800 which is like a falet and then throw us some bologna like this. Come on.

[plasmid303]

Hopefully the body shown in the new pics is just a placeholder. Guess we'll find out soon enough in the official HT specs.

[FLOSI]

The body is just huge, way way way too big to be Ford, Indy or anyone in the franchise short of Pat Roach as the German Mechanic and Giant Thuggee.

Look at pics of Harry on the Raiders set, hes skinny, with little muscle. His neck on the figure looks like ____ing Mickey Rourke's.

Hat looks ok but the way it sits on his head is mental. The jacket also needs to be futzed better but I think alot of the clothing issues are because of the roid body. If he comes with that thing its getting swapped out immediately for a regular TT.

:lecture:lecture:lecture The neck is ____ing massive... Reminds me of the Dastan figure.

The collars of the jacket and shirt look really bad. Futzing might help but normally HT seem to nail those kind of details.

[FLOSI]

THis doesn't looks like ford at all.
The jacket isn't well tailored and the shiny leathe rlike material doens't look right.
And those shoes wooooow would have been better sculpted boots IMO.

Always nice to have real shoes but at this point SS's simple sculpted shoes still look miles better.


http://www.leathersoulhawaii.com/wp-content/uploads/ui1.jpghttp://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/6a853733jw6ddi3d3le1kj.jpg

[lt0778]

i still like it still needs a little work but it's getting their and i can't wait to own this guy.

[elvis1976]

Always nice to have real shoes but at this point SS's simple sculpted shoes still look miles better.

Honestly im' not a fan of real shoes in 1/6.
It always look too big and goofy except for the new line boots sometimes.

[plasmid303]

Hot Toys rarely actually do real 'shoes' for the figures. They're all solid except for the plug for the ankle joints and 1/6 feet aren't meant to fit inside, so size won't be an issue for the Indy figure, methinks.

[FLOSI]

Honestly im' not a fan of real shoes in 1/6.
It always look too big and goofy except for the new line boots sometimes.

I feel the same. I like the DID German officer boots (Cobra Commander, Han Solo, German Indy) but that's about it.

I'm not even a fan a the Newline work boots that people use for Indy but I did, and do, have high hopes for this release so hopefully it gets fixed.

[Deckard]

I think the shoes look ok and its the giant body making the pants and shirt look too baggy and big and so the shoes are looking smaller by comparison.

Look at this, theres a better one of Harrison in Tunisia but I could only find this one.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/Harrison.jpg


Hes no bigger in chest or muscle then Steve or even George. And that should really tell you something is wrong here on the figure.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/harry2.jpg

[JosephCPR]

The hat looks pretty accurate to me

http://www.indianajones5trailer.com/indiana_jones_and_the_raiders_of_the_lost_ark/indiana_jones_1.jpghttp://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/6a853733jw6ddi3d3le1kj.jpg

[plasmid303]

The body is a better fit for ToD Indy but is somewhat serviceable as RotLA Indy. A major cost-cutting move for HT.

[Cavlcade]

Damn, I really wanted to like this figure. But I just can't get excited about it.

[Deckard]

It's definately the biggest miss Hot Toys has had in a loong time. Maybe since V.1 Joker.

That neck is just so retarded, theres really no better way to describe the body choice. Straight up full retard.

[MaulFan]

The real issue with the hat is how high it sits on the head, in that photo the brim's almost touching his ears, on the figure, not even close.

[plasmid303]

It's definately the biggest miss Hot Toys has had in a loong time. Maybe since V.1 Joker.

Exaggerate much? Geez. Maybe it's because I'm a casual fan, but I don't think it looks bad at all. At all.

[MaulFan]

It's definately the biggest miss Hot Toys has had in a loong time. Maybe since V.1 Joker.

That neck is just so retarded, theres really no better way to describe the body choice. Straight up full retard.

Only this time, there's no reason, Indy's been around for 30 years.

[small_studios]

I think the shoes look ok and its the giant body making the pants and shirt look too baggy and big and so the shoes are looking smaller by comparison.

Look at this, theres a better one of Harrison in Tunisia but I could only find this one.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/Harrison.jpg


Hes no bigger in chest or muscle then Steve or even George. And that should really tell you something is wrong here on the figure.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/harry2.jpg

Im not sure how the larger body is making the clothes look baggy. I think it the baggy clothes that are making them look baggy. They used a larger body to try and fill them in. Unfortunately it didnt work. They need to be retailored.

[Deckard]

Exaggerate much? Geez. Maybe it's because I'm a casual fan, but I don't think it looks bad at all. At all.

Scroll back and look how much I defended this figure, I know my Indy gear, not trying to be a ____ but you spend $600 for a hat like I did, you make sure you get the little details correct.

Hot Toys did not unfortunately, thats not easy to admit, but this figure needs work still. Fact is figures like Perseus are even better then this and its not upto par with things like the T800 or Mk.4, I don't think its exaggerating at all.

I like the sculpt, the hat could use some adjusting, but the jacket sucks, pants are off, all the leatherwork is kinda cheap looking compared to like the T800 jacket for example. The body is a failure, I can't give them any credit for that one.

Great accessories etc, but at this point, the fact that I would replace the body with another from the same company is showing poor judgement from that company.

[FLOSI]

The real issue with the hat is how high it sits on the head, in that photo the brim's almost touching his ears, on the figure, not even close.

It should sit much, much lower at the back of his head... that's where the issue is.

[The Josh]

It's definately the biggest miss Hot Toys has had in a loong time. Maybe since V.1 Joker.

That neck is just so retarded, theres really no better way to describe the body choice. Straight up full retard.

Exaggerate much? Geez. Maybe it's because I'm a casual fan, but I don't think it looks bad at all. At all.

I don't think he's too far off honestly. The sculpt, jacket, and hat for me need to be fixed. If its not then at least for me it will be one of their biggest misses I've ever seen. Now, since this isn't the final sculpt I'm not gonna put the cart before the horse.

[JosephCPR]

The real issue with the hat is how high it sits on the head, in that photo the brim's almost touching his ears, on the figure, not even close.

Well, maybe it's just a matter of sitting it a bit lower?

[MaulFan]

It should sit much, much lower at the back of his head... that's where the issue is.

That too. I do find the front on shot shows too little brim behind his head.

Problem is, it may not be able to sit lower, it could be that the hat is what reveals the PERS so it might be whatever HT does or nothing.

[FLOSI]

That too. I do find the front on shot shows too little brim behind his head.

Problem is, it may not be able to sit lower, it could be that the hat is what reveals the PERS so it might be whatever HT does or nothing.


Yup... that's what I'm worried about too.

[FLOSI]

I'm a _____ and I can't help but worry... This is Indy after all! :lecture

[intothevoid]

Wow - this looks like a 'Brothers Production' figure...

WTF happened?

[Deckard]

I'm a _____ and I can't help but worry... This is Indy after all! :lecture

I was taking the In HT I Trust route but when we get blog pics were getting close to product and now I'm scared. I already sold my custom and I'm starting to regret it I think.

[MaulFan]

In this photo it almost looks more like a traditional fedora, kind of like the ones Johnny Depp wore in Public Enemies. I think of Indy's brim as going behind his head, sort of like Vader's helmet dome.

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/6a853733jw6ddi14t86qsj.jpg

http://www.lamemovies.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/indiana_jones_wearing_his_hat.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/SIDESHOW/INDY/29.jpg

[Wor-Gar]

http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/6a853733jw6ddi3d3le1kj.jpghttp://collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Cinemaquette/cinemaquette_indiana_jones_figure__1_.jpg

When I posted the Cinemaquette it was a joke... but jeez, maybe not...

[RollingJ]

I do like the PERS eyes in the first couple of pics, but oh my! The whip looks really cheap, the shoes need to lose those thick cream bands, the hat is still looking wrong and I'm not really impressed by any of the clothing apart from the shirt. The body at least is a simple swap and I could use it for something else, but seriously, WTF Hot Toys??? Just how much are they planning on charging for this thing?