Hot Toys DX Indiana Jones announced + Star Wars teaser

[SwedishHeat]

I do find it a bit curious, why do the pedistal and not the Ark.

If they did the Ark, then people would insist on a Sallah or Belloq or Toht, then when they didn't deliver any of those, Hot Toys would "abandon the line. . . AGAIN"

[mfisher]

Just to switch gears away from the never ending and pretty much pointless debate over HT vs SS.. The prospect of them dropping a fully kitted TOD Indy would be excellent... Full gear, torn shirt, Tuxedo, Nurhachi Urn, Sankara stones, sanscrit cloth.. tons of possibilities there...

[karamazov80]

I do find it a bit curious, why do the pedistal and not the Ark.
Because it is cooler and will sell more, be my guess.

[snoop101]

Disappointed. I really can not understand. How can you make such a mistake? You Are producing in the DX serie right none other than Indiana Johnes! The world is in suspense! Hot Toys has a great name can do nothing less than a masterpiece. Instead they show us this ... I'm stunned.
HT! You must first put to work the best sculptors produce a perfect reproduction of Ford 1 / 6 and then announce Indiana Johns !
Same mistake as Bruce Lee!
Very disappointed! this is a guy dressed as Indiana. Not Harrison Ford - Indiana Johns ... very disappointed ... unforgivable

:lol:lol:lol

[RollingJ]

Thanks for the honest answer :) I've always wanted just one Indy piece so I think it may come down to either this or the PF. The PF has been selling for pretty cheap lately too.

Honestly, I'd get the PF. I've got it and it is great. Of course there are issues - The jacket is the wrong colour etc - but there is no doubt about who the sculpt is of and it is an excellent representation of the character.

But I'd wait and see how this one turns out first...

[small_studios]

Disappointed. I really can not understand. How can you make such a mistake? You Are producing in the DX serie right none other than Indiana Johnes! The world is in suspense! Hot Toys has a great name can do nothing less than a masterpiece. Instead they show us this ... I'm stunned.
HT! You must first put to work the best sculptors produce a perfect reproduction of Ford 1 / 6 and then announce Indiana Johns !
Same mistake as Bruce Lee!
Very disappointed! this is a guy dressed as Indiana. Not Harrison Ford - Indiana Johns ... very disappointed ... unforgivable

I just happened to catch Indiana Johns on BluRay, really good flick.

[RJMacReady16]

I just happened to catch Indiana Johns on BluRay, really good flick.

With (as credited by mfisher) Treat Williams?

It's a classic.

[small_studios]

With (as credited by mfisher) Treat Williams?

It's a classic.

It really is just about as classic as.........
http://i55.tinypic.com/25546iv.jpg

[RJMacReady16]

Oh wow!

See, leopard-print hatbands just scream "badass adventure". And also "gay". But mostly adventure.

[small_studios]

Oh wow!

See, leopard-print hatbands just scream "badass adventure". And also "gay". But mostly adventure.

But he had to take out a leopard to get that hatband. He is so BA its rediculous. Who would win in a street fight Quatermain or Johns?

[Wor-Gar]

Maybe they have a German disguise Indy planned with Ark environment...or maybe Toht.



:horror

:pray:

[RJMacReady16]

:horror

:pray:

Ha! Come on man. You couldn't possibly need another Toht, or even a "better" representation of him....






right?

[Wor-Gar]

Me? Nah.

:D

If I could get a Toht with a dead on sculpt, the correct trench coat, I'd buy it. Maybe even a full-stage melty head.

It's my T-1000.

[Sachiel]

I just happened to catch Indiana Johns on BluRay, really good flick.


If you liked those, you should check out "Indy and the Jones".

[RJMacReady16]

It's my T-1000.

Haha well-said.

[SAB]

Just to switch gears away from the never ending and pretty much pointless debate over HT vs SS.. The prospect of them dropping a fully kitted TOD Indy would be excellent... Full gear, torn shirt, Tuxedo, Nurhachi Urn, Sankara stones, sanscrit cloth.. tons of possibilities there...

Yeah this is what I'm more excited about...hope it happens!

[siquisiri]

indiana Johns.........http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Pm8N2TofxKU/SixnbSMgY9I/AAAAAAAACD4/ovpK8-ft5iY/s400/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg

[EVILFACE]

Thanks for the honest answer :) I've always wanted just one Indy piece so I think it may come down to either this or the PF. The PF has been selling for pretty cheap lately too.

Even with some of the faults the HT looks to have at the moment, it still trumps the overall Sideshow figure.

[Deckard]

Agree with Wor's statement two pages ago, most people here spent Christmas dissapointed about a prototype Indy. :lol

You guys who did are really good at being stupid. We got ridiculously awesome announcements all weekend, this was the greatest Christmas ever for 1/6 collectors and if you missed that because your upset one early half a year from product prototype without any official specs figure looked off, you probably don't deserve any of them.

Batman 89, Iron Monger, Indy, we got what we've been clamoring for, this was nothing short of incredible.

[cr`]

yes, those characters announced are great and i'd be proud to have them all in the collection if, and only IF, they're done great! this hurried subpar figure like indy just dont cut it. you want to do mediocre sculpts for mediocre movie characters, sure, go for it. nobody will but them anyway. but if you want to tackle a classic character like indy, you better dont waste anybody's time with substandard quality.

mediocre sculpt aside, what's with the bathrobe? a bathrobe??? how about a ripped shirt? how about his teaching clothes? how about a nazi soldier's uniform? for pete's sake, a bathrobe???

and i see that giving us a giant chunk of plastic waste is becoming a trend for ht. first it's the ugly useless chunk of rock they include for spidey, now this ugly waste of space chunk of rock for indy. what's next, a piece of the batcave for batman? a chunk of a meteorite for supes?

[devilof76]

<<<<<< Doesn't care that Indy stinks. Expects final product to look much better, but remains ambivalent.

[Teddy Daniels]

<<<<<< Doesn't care that Indy stinks. Expects final product to look much better, but remains ambivalent.

It doesnt stink imo I think it already looks the best version out there and fully expect it to be improved by full spec and pics

[EVILFACE]

Is this Indy even being offered for preorder yet? Until official specs are released, then it's still considered concept imho.

:lol at the people that had their Christmas "ruined" by a toy figure.

[DinoLast]

Is this Indy even being offered for preorder yet? Until official specs are released, then it's still considered concept imho.

:lol at the people that had their Christmas "ruined" by a toy figure.

:goodpost:

I love collecting, but come on, when there are people sleeping in the snow this Christmas, I am not going to be ungrateful for a wonder Christmas spent with loved ones, because I did not see a picture of a 1/6 Superman, or a proto of Indiana Jones might not be a 100% likeness.

[Teddy Daniels]

Is this Indy even being offered for preorder yet? Until official specs are released, then it's still considered concept imho.

:lol at the people that had their Christmas "ruined" by a toy figure.

:lol:lol:lol Could not agree more but i honestly think this figure is taking alot of undeserved stick

:goodpost:

I love collecting, but come on, when there are people sleeping in the snow this Christmas, I am not going to ungrateful for a wonder Christmas spent with loved ones, because I did not see a picture of a 1/6 Superman, or a proto of Indiana Jones might not be a 100% likeness.

:lecture

[Deckard]

:goodpost:

I love collecting, but come on, when there are people sleeping in the snow this Christmas, I am not going to ungrateful for a wonder Christmas spent with loved ones, because I did not see a picture of a 1/6 Superman, or a proto of Indiana Jones might not be a 100% likeness.

Yup too many self entitled grading curve kids out there using mom and dads cash as a ticket to _____ about something they can't afford and know little about to begin with.

[Snake Eater]

Is anyone here actually stating their Christmas was ruined by a lack of announcement/'poor' figure?

:dunno

[Deckard]

Is anyone here actually stating their Christmas was ruined by a lack of announcement/'poor' figure?

:dunno

Do the kids that spent 4-6 hours on Christmas yesterday in this thread complaining that this is the all around worst mass market Indy because of a minor likeness issue without any official specs or pics seem like theyre happy and had a good time to you?

[Snake Eater]

Guess not.

I must have missed all those posts when I was enjoying lunch and opening gifts with the family. OOH and watching SCROOGED. :lol

[King Darkness]

Is anyone here actually stating their Christmas was ruined

Mine was. Absolutely disgusted by Fuglyana Jones and no Superman!

Totally ruined Jesus's birthday!

Thanks a lot Hot Toys :monkey4

[Deckard]

Guess not.

I must have missed all those posts when I was enjoying lunch and opening gifts with the family. OOH and watching SCROOGED. :lol

All about 24 hours of A Christmas Story.

But I am actually getting sick of it after its 5th or w/e year in a row now.

[DinoLast]

Totally ruined Jesus's birthday!



Yeah! And speaking of the King of Kings, when is his DX coming out?

Hot Toys you fail again

[Kuat of Kuat]

Yeah! And speaking of the King of Kings, when is his DX coming out?

Hot Toys you fail again

Complete with magnetic cross?

I think I'll pass.

I'll also pass on Superman. Can't be doing with models of men in tight red panties. Bad enough already trying to explain that these "are not dolls". :wink1:

[Mad Old Lu]

The reason I'm disappointed is because I expected more from HT. The sculpt is off, the hat is not good and the jacket is a little ehh. The tailoring is perfect, though.

I think people were a little harsh on SS's Indy, but I personally was much more forgiving of its faults because of the $90 pricetag. And the sculpt really is perfect, just takes a repaint to show it (I did very minimal touch ups to it and it made the world of difference for me).

But for HT will potentially charge for this Indy, I'm definitely disappointed of its shortcomings.

I will most likely buy it, because I love the character and I'm pretty sure it will look loads better when in-hand. And there's always the hope that HT will make some fixes, as they've done in the past. I won't be happy about the price, but I hope they can fix it enough to make it worth it.

[DinoLast]

Complete with magnetic cross?

I think I'll pass.

I'll also pass on Superman. Can't be doing with models of men in tight red panties. Bad enough already trying to explain that these "are not dolls". :wink1:

I love it when a Geek tries to put down what other Geeks like.

[Deckard]

Yea once you cross the line you may as well go all in. Its not like a dollie of Indy is gonna get you layed and a dollie of Supes is where she draws the line. :lol

Although the near naked 300 men are tough to explain to other guys, I'll give u that.

[RollingJ]

Yup too many self entitled grading curve kids out there using mom and dads cash as a ticket to _____ about something they can't afford and know little about to begin with.

You know, i'm getting out of this thread for now. it's posts like that, containing daft generalisations and baseless value judgements of people that really lowers the tone of these threads (which are supposed to be about the figures after all). If you like the figure fine, I hope you enjoy it, but perhaps you should be a little less judgemental of people. 'Tis the season after all.

[Deckard]

:wave Bye.

[devilof76]

It doesnt stink imo I think it already looks the best version out there and fully expect it to be improved by full spec and pics

It stinks imo. Best out there? That's like saying one kid was less retarded than the other ones on the short bus.

[Deckard]

It stinks imo. Best out there? That's like saying one kid was less retarded than the other ones on the short bus.

I believe the short bus is for the pyshically handicapped as well as mental, so...

[devilof76]

I wasn't commenting on Indy's pyshical problems. Just his physio-esthetic ones.

:lol

[boot25]

I like it! I think the likeness is pretty spot on. If they made no changes it would still be a must buy for me.

[swsqueakquels]

Whew, finally caught up with a few days worth of this thread! Given the purpose of these boards, I think there's an understandable but still obsessive search for absolute perfection with the 1/6 Indy sculpt/outfit that combined with the HT announcement to be a perfect set up for a major letdown.

I think everyone here was hoping they could own a new Trevor Indy sculpt, Boot25's paint, Sovereign jacket, mfisher's holsters/bags etc - all in one box, but it hasn't happened - put simply, even the great HT couldn't top the combined talent evident on these boards.

As someone who has really only started on this 1/6 thing, coming in fresh this year, the Sideshow Indy really excited me - I have the German Indy head with loose ROTLA hat on a larger scale body (Soldier Story) with the ROTLA outfit/accessories and it looks stunning - it is as close to Harrison Ford as Indy I personally need, but I can still marvel at and appreciate what others can do to go further.

I will likely buy the HT Indy because of the Idol environment, Arab disguise and especially the staff/headpiece, but I'm going into this knowing that the only truly "perfect" 1/6 Indy exists on these boards - through the work of the many fans/artists that have in the last few days resoundingly proven that together they can top the best 1/6 manufacturer in the world. To me, in the Indy 1/6 world so far, it is Freaks - 1, HT - 0.

[Deckard]

Whew, finally caught up with a few days worth of this thread! Given the purpose of these boards, I think there's an understandable but still obsessive search for absolute perfection with the 1/6 Indy sculpt/outfit that combined with the HT announcement to be a perfect set up for a major letdown.

I think everyone here was hoping they could own a new Trevor Indy sculpt, Boot25's paint, Sovereign jacket, mfisher's holsters/bags etc - all in one box, but it hasn't happened - put simply, even the great HT couldn't top the combined talent evident on these boards.
As someone who has really only started on this 1/6 thing, coming in fresh this year, the Sideshow Indy really excited me - I have the German Indy head with loose ROTLA hat on a larger scale body (Soldier Story) with the ROTLA outfit/accessories and it looks stunning - it is as close to Harrison Ford as Indy I personally need, but I can still marvel at and appreciate what others can do to go further.

I will likely buy the HT Indy because of the Idol environment, Arab disguise and especially the staff/headpiece, but I'm going into this knowing that the only truly "perfect" 1/6 Indy exists on these boards - through the work of the many fans/artists that have in the last few days resoundingly proven that together they can top the best 1/6 manufacturer in the world. To me, in the Indy 1/6 world so far, it is Freaks - 1, HT - 0.

Alot of people are selling theyre customs of just what you stated, with the announcement of this figure so they do actually have that oppurtunity for about the same price as this. Your never gonna get perfect in a single box. Even as good as the Mk.4 and T-800s are people find flaws and ____ to complain about in order to justify not wanting it. Its the same idea as a sequel to a movie, everyone gets an idea in there head of what it should be like and so ulitmately to some extent your always going to let pretty much everyone down a little.

[Kuat of Kuat]

I love it when a Geek tries to put down what other Geeks like.

Yea once you cross the line you may as well go all in. Its not like a dollie of Indy is gonna get you layed and a dollie of Supes is where she draws the line.

Although the near naked 300 men are tough to explain to other guys, I'll give u that.

Yeah, I was out of line. I'm just not brave enough to display a Superman.

I was going to get a HT Hellboy, until I heard he needed babyoil rubbing into his chest. :horror (Do the 300 men make similar demands?)

Indy needs very little explaining. The more I look at the photos, the more I think this one has great potential.

[Matt S]

This thread has degraded.....all the people that used to complain about Sideshow's quality now complain about HT quality...

The more things change....................................

[teemu]

Maybe Perfectionists should just hire Harrison Ford for a week to stand in a persons toy display cabinet/shelf? then you would have the perfect Ford likeness

[FLOSI]

Jesus... I've been staying away from this thread since there really isn't much left to say ATM. Proto looks interesting, sculpt needs work. HT will come through I'd wager. Everything else is High School drama-queen slumber-party gossip talk.

I did want Superman pics though... :(

[Raymond Ferraro]

yes, those characters announced are great and i'd be proud to have them all in the collection if, and only IF, they're done great! this hurried subpar figure like indy just dont cut it. you want to do mediocre sculpts for mediocre movie characters, sure, go for it. nobody will but them anyway. but if you want to tackle a classic character like indy, you better dont waste anybody's time with substandard quality.

mediocre sculpt aside, what's with the bathrobe? a bathrobe??? how about a ripped shirt? how about his teaching clothes? how about a nazi soldier's uniform? for pete's sake, a bathrobe???

and i see that giving us a giant chunk of plastic waste is becoming a trend for ht. first it's the ugly useless chunk of rock they include for spidey, now this ugly waste of space chunk of rock for indy. what's next, a piece of the batcave for batman? a chunk of a meteorite for supes?

Speak for yourself the map room outfit is awesome. I want that way before "teaching clothes".

And yes this figure is still a huge disappoint. :mad:

[Snake Eater]

Regardless of the sculpt 'issues' people are having, is the hat not bothering anyone else?

From the limited shots we have, it appears too big and awkward on the head to me.

[Deckard]

The size is accurate, the shape is the problem. The hat shouldn't get thinner twoards the top and the brims should be bent up a bit more.

[Something Sexy]

^^^^This.

For those that are complaining about HT including the Idol Chamber.....Too Bad?

Im glad they are adding it, since theres some of us that didnt bend over for the Belloq exclusive to get it. Glad I waited. :yess:

I would rather spend the money to get the Belloq exclusive for the most likely superior idol environment.

[meanstreak]

I would rather get it with an Indy and a backdrop for a better display, in addition to it being part of the price of an item I wanted (no interest in Belloq either). :yess:

[Snake Eater]

The size is accurate, the shape is the problem. The hat shouldn't get thinner twoards the top and the brims should be bent up a bit more.

AHA!

That is exactly what has been bugging me, but I couldn't put my finger on it. Cheers. :lol

[devilof76]

Jesus... I've been staying away from this thread since there really isn't much left to say ATM. Proto looks interesting, sculpt needs work. HT will come through I'd wager. Everything else is High School drama-queen slumber-party gossip talk.

I did want Superman pics though... :(

Mister, you better pick a side and fight to the death like everyone else, or you better GTFO. And if you get kicked out of this slumber party, you better know that no one will ever invite you to another slumber party. Ever...

:tap

[Wor-Gar]

No new pics today?

Really hoping to see someone take that out of the case and lose the under-lighting.

[SAB]

Also, just be aware that they were working to a schedule here.

This was their 10th anniversary showcase and they made like 10 announcements and showed a ton of prototypes.

I'm guessing they wanted something Indy on the shelf for the event even if it wasn't perfect.

[Mad Old Lu]

I just saw the Thor and Resident Evil Milla and both those look great! Much better than Indy! Now I'm even more disappointed. :(

I really hope they fix the face and hat.

[drbrad1975]

I just saw the Thor and Resident Evil Milla and both those look great! Much better than Indy! Now I'm even more disappointed. :(

I really hope they fix the face and hat.

Well, I hope they fix the flaws...the hat is the major thing for me. However, I am not that disappointed. It's still better than what else is out there ATM.

[The Josh]

People really shouldn't let toys mess up their Christmas. :lol Deep breath people. :lol

people find flaws and ____ to complain about in order to justify not wanting it. Its the same idea as a sequel to a movie, everyone gets an idea in there head of what it should be like and so ulitmately to some extent your always going to let pretty much everyone down a little.

Yes, to some extent I think this is true. However, I don't think this is the overall case to be honest. I'll use myself as an example. I will place a safety order in the hopes that HT will fix the issues with this piece so I keep the order. I have 3 really cool Indy figures from Sideshow and a really cool custom Map Room Indy. Plus I have the Idol Chamber piece as well. So while I really love the work HT does with their stuff this piece has to knock my socks off.

Right now this thing hasn't done that. In some ways I'm not shocked because of how hard Ford is to pull off. Very few have done it with any real success from my POV. So when I saw the full preview shots and it has mostly a hint of Ford than is Ford I again wasn't shocked. The part that did I guess shock me was that the jacket needs work. I expected more the material like what Wolverine came with. Right now it just isn't there.

So you factor that stuff all in with the fact this is gonna cost a pretty good penny I'd say. They've shown some really awesome stuff Thor, Mark V, Iron Monger, Captain America (announced), and items that they've already had up for PO that will be coming and this MUST be as close to perfect as it can get. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Its not that people are looking to take shots at HT which I find laughable that some HT fans are taking it a bit personally people aren't slobbering all over themselves.

Will this figure be fixed? Sure it will HT does that with everything. I think the question is will it be fixed enough to be the great figure it should be coming from HT and worth the asking price with everything else out there?

[Snake Eater]

I believe in HT. :lecture

[Hirogen]

Will this come out in 2011 or 2012?

[Snake Eater]

Will this come out in 2011 or 2012?

Not stated yet.

I think Q3 2011 for sure though.

[Chigger58]

If it's been addressed, apologize in advance, but just wondering (for anyone that was there or if anyone knows) are there two different heads or was it the same head on two different bodies for the display at the show? Just can't tell from most of the photos I've seen whether it's the same sculpt, guessing it is though.

THANKS!

[Teddy Daniels]

Not stated yet.

I think Q3 2011 for sure though.

:( Thats a long wait :(

[MaulFan]

I don't think it'll be that long, people are probably basing that off Spider-man 3's date, but where that figure is venturing into new territory and HT has even come out and said they're still exploring things with the body to optimize the look, the release date is pushed out to give them time. Indy should be out by the end of Q2, assuming it goes up for order soon. T-800 went up this time last year and shipped in May.

[Teddy Daniels]

I don't think it'll be that long, people are probably basing that off Spider-man 3's date, but where that figure is venturing into new territory and HT has even come out and said they're still exploring things with the body to optimize the look, the release date is pushed out to give them time. Indy should be out by the end of Q2, assuming it goes up for order soon. T-800 went up this time last year and shipped in May.

Thanks for that and I really hope your right, I can just about get my head around having to wait until June for this but not September :monkey3

[rushmore223]

I just saw the Thor and Resident Evil Milla and both those look great! Much better than Indy! Now I'm even more disappointed. :(

I really hope they fix the face and hat.

How can you complain about Indy and then go on to say the Milla figure from RE is great? The face on the Milla figure is so off it's not funny, luckily I have no desire to collect those.

[small_studios]

How can you complain about Indy and then go on to say the Milla figure from RE is great? The face on the Milla figure is so off it's not funny, luckily I have no desire to collect those.

Im sure its pretty easy. The Milla sculpt is about 98% spot on. The Ford sculpt is about 75% spot on. Something with the nose on the Indy sculpt thats just not quite right.

[MaulFan]

Thanks for that and I really hope your right, I can just about get my head around having to wait until June for this but not September :monkey3

Well he's pretty basic, his costume is fairly basic compared to some other figures that come out within a few months, there's not much to the pedistal besides paint so that should be done easy, and his accessories are on the plain side. Other than time to rework the sculpt or something, I don't see any reason this couldn't be a 4-5 month from order to arrival.

[Mr.E]

The Ford sculpt is about 75% spot on. Something with the nose on the Indy sculpt thats just not quite right.

Those dark eyes too.

[toylion]

People really shouldn't let toys mess up their Christmas. :lol Deep breath people. :lol



Yes, to some extent I think this is true. However, I don't think this is the overall case to be honest. I'll use myself as an example. I will place a safety order in the hopes that HT will fix the issues with this piece so I keep the order. I have 3 really cool Indy figures from Sideshow and a really cool custom Map Room Indy. Plus I have the Idol Chamber piece as well. So while I really love the work HT does with their stuff this piece has to knock my socks off.

Right now this thing hasn't done that. In some ways I'm not shocked because of how hard Ford is to pull off. Very few have done it with any real success from my POV. So when I saw the full preview shots and it has mostly a hint of Ford than is Ford I again wasn't shocked. The part that did I guess shock me was that the jacket needs work. I expected more the material like what Wolverine came with. Right now it just isn't there.

So you factor that stuff all in with the fact this is gonna cost a pretty good penny I'd say. They've shown some really awesome stuff Thor, Mark V, Iron Monger, Captain America (announced), and items that they've already had up for PO that will be coming and this MUST be as close to perfect as it can get. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Its not that people are looking to take shots at HT which I find laughable that some HT fans are taking it a bit personally people aren't slobbering all over themselves.

Will this figure be fixed? Sure it will HT does that with everything. I think the question is will it be fixed enough to be the great figure it should be coming from HT and worth the asking price with everything else out there?

Very well put. I totally agree.

[toylion]

How can you complain about Indy and then go on to say the Milla figure from RE is great? The face on the Milla figure is so off it's not funny, luckily I have no desire to collect those.

I think Milla is perfect. Will be my first RE Figure.

[MaulFan]

Those dark eyes too.

All of the PERS eyes end up looking dark, there's depth to the iris, so even though it's colored correctly for a character, unless well lit and photographed really close, the effect is an almost black iris, though often even real people's eyes look that way if not lit well enough.

[rushmore223]

I think Milla is perfect. Will be my first RE Figure.

(To me) the face shape is totally different, too round, should be longer.

Looks like a great likeness of somebody, but not Milla.

[The Batman Professor]

HT has miles to go on this one if they want to produce the definitive Indy.

Could it be that they've overextended themselves by acquiring too many licenses?

[The Entity]

Wow... so much hate for this figure! :eek:

I think it looks pretty damn awesome!! Never had an Indy figure, very big chance that this'll be my first and only one!

I think the sculpt looks great! The only thing that makes him look a bit funny is the "deadness" in his eyes.
Guessing that's from the DX-type eyes combined with weird camera angles/lighting.

I for one am looking forward to seeing the full specs and pics for this figure!

Love the accessories as well. So what that HT includes the stone column for the Idol? Not everyone has the SS one.
I think that this figure is pretty much the ultimate Indy figure. Just one purchase is gonna give the collector multiple diorama options of 2 iconic scenes from an iconic film and character.

I think HT did a great job on this!! :rock :rock :rock

[rushmore223]

Wow... so much hate for this figure! :eek:

I think it looks pretty damn awesome!! Never had an Indy figure, very big chance that this'll be my first and only one!

I think the sculpt looks great! The only thing that makes him look a bit funny is the "deadness" in his eyes.
Guessing that's from the DX-type eyes combined with weird camera angles/lighting.

I for one am looking forward to seeing the full specs and pics for this figure!

Love the accessories as well. So what that HT includes the stone column for the Idol? Not everyone has the SS one.
I think that this figure is pretty much the ultimate Indy figure. Just one purchase is gonna give the collector multiple diorama options of 2 iconic scenes from an iconic film and character.

I think HT did a great job on this!! :rock :rock :rock

Ever try and have a conversation with a baby screaming and crying in the background? How about 10 babies?

The negative screaming and crying will always overwhelm the praise.

The figure is not perfect, but (in my eyes) it is much better than the SS one. I also have a feeling that there will be tweaking in regards to the Head and clothing, which will make this figure far outshine the SS version.

[The Josh]

Sorry I think saying there is a overwhelming sense of hate is pretty off the mark. Read my post that was quoted above and I think you get a sense at where folks are coming from. Its wonderful so many of you love it as is but they'll lose out on plenty of sales if they leave it how you all see it. They will still get my money but it will be in other figures instead of addition to this figure.

[rushmore223]

Sorry I think saying there is a overwhelming sense of hate is pretty off the mark. Read my post that was quoted above and I think you get a sense at where folks are coming from. Its wonderful so many of you love it as is but they'll lose out on plenty of sales if they leave it how you all see it. They will still get my money but it will be in other figures instead of addition to this figure.

I "do" think it still needs some work, but it is so early on that i believe the version we are seeing now will be refined. If it doesn't go through a further refinement, than your right, they will lose some sales. I would say that where it stands right now, i am 75% likely to get this figure. I would like to see some improvement, but it may not kill the sale for me, though the price might.

Just FYI Josh, that statement is not directed at you, your remarks seem to be fair and level headed, even when they are negative.

[The Josh]

I agree it will be refined but being shown now before that folks will say it needs work and thats fine. Its a matter of how things are worded.

I know. Its cool. I appreciate that and I try to be able to word my posts when I don't like something but I agree some do go a bit crazy. :lol

[The Entity]

Well, first of all I'm not blaming all the "hate" on one person. It's just the general vibe I'm getting from this thread.

And from one point of view, I can understand it. For Indy collectors, who have a number of Indy figs and collectibles already, this might be dissapointing because it's basically a redo of older figures, even with the Idol chamber column and everything...

But to people who don't have anything Indy in their collection, this is pretty much the figure to get. You'll get accessories which were seperate purchases back then with SS (Idol chamber environment), you'll get two iconic outfits, plus you get the best (non-custom) Indy figure out there.

So in my book, this is an awesome DX set.
I'm sure that if they hadn't included the Idol Chamber piece, people would be negative about it as well.

I'm not saying this figure is perfect, and never did. I'm sure HT could tweak the sculpt here and there to make it even more better (knowing HT they probably will), but the general negativity in this thread just comes from expectations not being met, IMO. :peace

[King Darkness]

The Josh is a bottomless well of negativity and hate. :lecture

[rushmore223]

I agree it will be refined but being shown now before that folks will say it needs work and thats fine. Its a matter of how things are worded.

I know. Its cool. I appreciate that and I try to be able to word my posts when I don't like something but I agree some do go a bit crazy. :lol

:pray: Amen to that!

[The Josh]

The Josh is a bottomless well of negativity and hate. :lecture

I know but you promised you wouldn't tell. :monkey2

[King Darkness]

I know but you promised you wouldn't tell. :monkey2

I will no longer be an accomplice in your lies and trickery. The truth must be known.


The Josh is the Chancellor Palpatine of the Freaks Board.

[The Josh]

I will no longer be an accomplice in your lies and trickery. The truth must be known.


The Josh is the Chancellor Palpatine of the Freaks Board.

Fine you leave me know choice since you have spread the truth among the masses. :lol

:lsvader:emperor:emperor:emperor:emperor:emperor :emperor

[BrooklynWolf X]

Well, first of all I'm not blaming all the "hate" on one person. It's just the general vibe I'm getting from this thread.

And from one point of view, I can understand it. For Indy collectors, who have a number of Indy figs and collectibles already, this might be dissapointing because it's basically a redo of older figures, even with the Idol chamber column and everything...

But to people who don't have anything Indy in their collection, this is pretty much the figure to get. You'll get accessories which were seperate purchases back then with SS (Idol chamber environment), you'll get two iconic outfits, plus you get the best (non-custom) Indy figure out there.

So in my book, this is an awesome DX set.
I'm sure that if they hadn't included the Idol Chamber piece, people would be negative about it as well.

I'm not saying this figure is perfect, and never did. I'm sure HT could tweak the sculpt here and there to make it even more better (knowing HT they probably will), but the general negativity in this thread just comes from expectations not being met, IMO. :peace

:goodpost:

i find it funny how people are saying things like "weak, idol chamber and pedestal, already have one"

sorry that all TEN of these guys are saying that, where if they DIDN'T come with the DX jones, THOUSANDS will complain how they didn't include them...

btw, didn't you have to buy belloq in order to get these accs???

OH and on top of that, those very same ten guys that complained how these acc. are 'rehashed'...i KNOW for a fact that if HT didn't include them, they'll be saying "bah, they didn't include those accs...weak! SS ver FTW!!!"

i swear some here are like sharks waiting for HTs to drop a little blood in the water.

[The Josh]

As one of the ten please read my post again. It clearly states why I must be rocked to for sure keep this. Your accusations are not correct with me. So I guess it's 9 then? :lol

[SAB]

Not to continue the complaining but since everyone else gets to :D :

I would rather they included either the arc or a professor suit instead of the map room suit (or a second head)

I intend to buy this figure - its great and the head WILL be improved - but I know for a fact I will never bother taking off the classic Indy gear and dressing the figure up in the Arabic gear.

[devilof76]

If they do the map room clothes right, they'll fit over his regular stuff. What I wish they'd included was a city of Tanis floor model. The cardboard backdrops are lame. The idol environment was uninteresting to me when Sideshow made it (although Sideshow's was significantly more impressive). Maproom Indy without a maproom is kinda weak. I don't know. I feel like they haven't finished thinking this through.

[SAB]

If they do the map room clothes right, they'll fit over his regular stuff. What I wish they'd included was a city of Tanis floor model. The cardboard backdrops are lame. The idol environment was uninteresting to me when Sideshow made it (although Sideshow's was significantly more impressive). Maproom Indy without a maproom is kinda weak. I don't know. I feel like they haven't finished thinking this through.

Oh right, I never thought of that. I guess at the most, you only have to take the jacket off to put the robes over the top.

Actually, now that I think about it, his hat is off in the robes....
Is that hat actually removable?
In the wide shot that includes everything, it doesn't show an extra hair accessory or extra head sculpt?

[Snake Eater]

Looking forward to more pics of this one.

[Mad Old Lu]

It's true that some never got the idol pedestal and that makes it added value to them. But I think the issue is that not only was it already done by SS, but that SS did it better (a rarity, I know). So instead of spending the time and using up the "accessory" spot for something that was already done better, HT should have done something different like the Map Room floor.

And I don't see outright negativity. Just sad disappointment in the fact that HT's Indy is not twice as good as SS's Indy, as the price will surely be. It's overall better than SS's, I'll give you that, but not by much and not where it counts most--the headsculpt.

[karamazov80]

The idol environment was uninteresting to me when Sideshow made it (although Sideshow's was significantly more impressive).
What is the difference between the two?

[devilof76]

Sideshow has a floor extending out from beneath it, the engravings appear to be more distinct, and the moss looks better. I'm only going by pics so I can't say for sure. But, the whole Ex. Belloq package cost less than a regular HT figure. Something to consider.

[MaulFan]

It looks like the Hot Toys pedistal is lacking in moss quantity, especially the top side.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg283/G17RDY/cap006b.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a299/StargateSg7/Indy/review_idolenv_2.jpg

http://bbs.bbicn.com/data/attachment/forum/201012/24/235042lruhnnriryltxizu.jpg

[AlanJG1]

Here is Sideshow's

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/39081_press01-001.jpg

[devilof76]

Whoa. HT's pedestal is a lot less detailed. Another sign that this stuff wasn't ready to be shown.

[Teddy Daniels]

Yes I can't argue with that there is a serious lack of moss on HT's version

[drbrad1975]

Whoa. HT's pedestal is a lot less detailed. Another sign that this stuff wasn't ready to be shown.

I agree that it maybe wasn't ready and sideshows blows the hot toys pedestal out of the water but it's not something I really care about. I feel like it was just an after thought anyway.

[Snake Eater]

I honestly find it hilarious when certain members pisstake about the quest for accurate Jokers and here people are assessing the levels of moss on a pedestal.

:lol

[karamazov80]

Huh. I just figured Sideshow was letting HT re-use their old mold for some reason. Sideshow's does look much better in those prototype pics, anyway.

[mfisher]

people are assessing the levels of moss on a pedestal.

In their defense though.. when you plunk down the amount of money you are going to have to shell out for a HT DX set.. details are important and worth assessing... a mere resemblance won't cut it.. the details need to be there for this type of high quality collectible... otherwise you may as well just buy Hasbro figures..

[luckysim]

It’s better to read first (and correct) before judging people.:wink1:

I’ve ever thought that this forum is about the exchange of ideas regarding a corporatly hobby. Even if there are several ideas to the same subject it must be allowed to bring up your own statement without bashing each other. :peace

I only could speak for myself but I’m not a HT hater. Quite the opposite is right. I think HT is the best company for 1/6 scale figures on the market. They’ve raised the bar for life like charakters to a level that not many other companies are fit to hold a candle to this. I love my T-1000 and IMHO the T-800 Arnie is one of the best figures (concerning the likeness) they’ve produced so far.

The target of most of the critic comments is to let HT know that there is room for improvements. :wave Sometimes these hints are not entirely selfless, that’s right. But in my case for example I had a good reason to point out why it would be better for HT not to recycle old (bonus) stuff even if I’ve got the SS set already. And the prototype phase is the best point in time for changes without to spend a fortune of money to fix something. So let HT know what and why you dislike something, maybe they change these flaws.

And yes, there was (and perhaps there still is) a chance to get the SS idol pedestal WITHOUT Belloq and instead of this figure with the Sideshow Indy.

My basic feeling is that It’s very „cheap“ from HT to bring us a DX figure with a special bonus item and „the best thing“ they do for it is to copy something that Sidshow has done better before...


:goodpost:

i find it funny how people are saying things like "weak, idol chamber and pedestal, already have one"

sorry that all TEN of these guys are saying that, where if they DIDN'T come with the DX jones, THOUSANDS will complain how they didn't include them...

btw, didn't you have to buy belloq in order to get these accs???

OH and on top of that, those very same ten guys that complained how these acc. are 'rehashed'...i KNOW for a fact that if HT didn't include them, they'll be saying "bah, they didn't include those accs...weak! SS ver FTW!!!"

i swear some here are like sharks waiting for HTs to drop a little blood in the water.

"There is another Jo.. Jo..nessss....." ARGH!!!

O.k. Seriously!

I was under high voltage right after I've heard that HT grabbed the Indy license. And with some modifications it still could be a great figure (I love the boots and the leather like whip already).

BUT what the heck rides HT to reboot the idol chamber??? :slap The Sideshow chamber is not perfect but very good. And the HT one don't will get any improvements. Quite the contrary: it don't will feature the floor plates!!! So HT please leave us alone with another idol chamber and bring us some Map Room additions.

For all of you who missed the Sideshow chamber because you don't like the Belloq: go get it and sell the Belloq! :wink1: Or you have the possibility to get one of the rare Chamber/Indy combos which pop up from time to time on eBay. If you've got your Sideshow Indy already part the second one out and keep the items you need as spare parts or for modifications. I love my Sideshow Indy/Chamber combo (see pics below) and there is no need for another one!

Or alternative (if it must be some Idol Chamber stuff) please do a Idol Chamber wall with "face" masks including a small ground plate for Indy, the torch and some arrows to combine this to a great setup with the Sideshow Idol Chamber environment. :pray:

And HT if you stick to your idea for the announced Idol Chamber please, please bring us a different idol (including "glass" eyes, maybe painted).

But I think if you really go in production with the shown set you will loosing money. Because there are so many people out there who own already the Sideshow set and they are not willing to pay 200 bucks for a reboot (like me). Take your chance and do something new and fresh and it will be a home run for you (and I will be in :hi5:). But only a DX version with old stuff and a face that's off don't will be a motivation to buy such an expensive set. :mad:

Merry Christmas.

Amen!

Money is a strong argument. :cool: What do you think, how many of the Belloq/Chamber sets are out there? Maybe 500?

O.k. let us assume only 250 people of these 500 are don't willing to pay another maybe $200 US for an almost identical set and for them DX and the Map Room cloth is not enough to change their minds. So it would be a loss of $50.000 US for HT.

And if the first HT Indy figure don't sell good would there be another one...?

[FLOSI]

Mister, you better pick a side and fight to the death like everyone else, or you better GTFO. And if you get kicked out of this slumber party, you better know that no one will ever invite you to another slumber party. Ever...

:tap

Alright Dev... You made me do this:

Indy looks like crap. The sculpt resembles some Harrison Ford stunt double. The jacket doesn't even look as good as SSs version. The hat looks stupid, is shaped wrong and should have just been attached to the sculpt. The idol pedestal is lame. The stands with the back drops are horrible and look cheap. I thought HT doing Indy would be the ultimate action figure but this is looking like a total fail at this point.

[Johnny Utah]

I'd feel a lot better if HT came out and said they are revising the figure on Facebook like they did with Bruce Lee.

[Deak Starkiller]

Flosi is possessed by the ghost of the NAM.

[Deak Starkiller]

I'd feel a lot better if HT came out and said they are revising the figure on Facebook like they did with Bruce Lee.

Don't worry, they'll change him.

[FLOSI]

Flosi is possessed by the ghost of the NAM.

:lol He was right when he bashed this before the promo pic hit.... HT missed the sculpt so the whole thing looks bad.

[small_studios]

As far as i know the Lucas rep is pretty picky about likenesses and accuracy on figures.

[MarfMaster]

:lol He was right when he bashed this before the promo pic hit.... HT missed the sculpt so the whole thing looks bad.

He was also right in that it was going to be difficult for Hot Toys to please those under the influence of the brilliant Indy custom work that has been done. Not sure how many fall in this category, but I know I do.

[FLOSI]

He was also right in that it was going to be difficult for Hot Toys to please those under the influence of the brilliant Indy custom work that has been done. Not sure how many fall in this category, but I know I do.

:lecture:lecture:lecture

[luckysim]

As far as i know the Lucas rep is pretty picky about likenesses and accuracy on figures.

If this is true I wonder how the Cinemaquette Indy could happen. Hope Lucas licensing replaced the guy who gave them the permission to do this...

[small_studios]

If this is true I wonder how the Cinemaquette Indy could happen. Hope Lucas licensing replaced the guy how gave them the permission to do this...

Maybe he had something in his eye when he gave it the once over.

[MarfMaster]

Maybe he had something in his eye when he gave it the once over.

:rotfl:lol:rotfl

[luckysim]

Maybe he had something in his eye when he gave it the once over.

For this gaffe I assume he was blind. :lol

[devilof76]

I agree that it maybe wasn't ready and sideshows blows the hot toys pedestal out of the water but it's not something I really care about. I feel like it was just an after thought anyway.

You cared enough to disassociate yourself from it. :wink1:

I honestly find it hilarious when certain members pisstake about the quest for accurate Jokers and here people are assessing the levels of moss on a pedestal.

:lol

Assessing, as in nitpicking? Nope. I had a gut level response to HT's pedestal and knew it looked bad compared to Sideshow's. I said so, then karamazov asked what the difference was so I went and looked at Sideshow's; I hadn't seen it since production pics were posted.

Hope that clears up your hilarity.

Alright Dev... You made me do this:

Indy looks like crap. The sculpt resembles some Harrison Ford stunt double. The jacket doesn't even look as good as SSs version. The hat looks stupid, is shaped wrong and should have just been attached to the sculpt. The idol pedestal is lame. The stands with the back drops are horrible and look cheap. I thought HT doing Indy would be the ultimate action figure but this is looking like a total fail at this point.

Thank you sir. Enjoy the slumber party, and all the slumber parties to come. :duff

[Kanjar210]

on the HT DX Jones I hope the Indy Hat is not Molded on like the Sideshow Version. I hated that sideshows did that

[Teddy Daniels]

I really hope we get the official pics soon I really want to see this guy now in a better light

[MaulFan]

It probably will be, at this scale, you can't make a hat that looks right on his head with hair on the sculpt that looks right with the hat off. The real hat would press down Ford's hair, but with the hat off it's puffy with body.

I'm curious if there'll even be a hatless option or if somehow, the hat comes off and you plug the turban in it's place but there's no hair atop his head.

[Teddy Daniels]

It probably will be, at this scale, you can't make a hat that looks right on his head with hair on the sculpt that looks right with the hat off. The real hat would press down Ford's hair, but with the hat off it's puffy with body.

I'm curious if there'll even be a hatless option or if somehow, the hat comes off and you plug the turban in it's place but there's no hair atop his head.

What about the map room set up though? Surely there has to be a hatless version included for that :dunno

[MarfMaster]

What about the map room set up though? Surely there has to be a hatless version included for that :dunno

:lecture

I think what we've seen in the pics so far is a removable hat, which is easy to believe because it does look off to me.

[MaulFan]

What about the map room set up though? Surely there has to be a hatless version included for that :dunno

Not necessarily, like I just said, maybe they designed it so the hat and turban from the map room outfit both connect to the top of his head and maybe that's the access to the PERS, and it's just one head. have to wait for official specs.

[Teddy Daniels]

Not necessarily, like I just said, maybe they designed it so the hat and turban from the map room outfit both connect to the top of his head and maybe that's the access to the PERS, and it's just one head. have to wait for official specs.

Yeah well where are they :panic: :lol

[TheObsoleteMan]

Yeah well where are they :panic: :lol

HT has top men working on it.

[Teddy Daniels]

Not necessarily, like I just said, maybe they designed it so the hat and turban from the map room outfit both connect to the top of his head and maybe that's the access to the PERS, and it's just one head. have to wait for official specs.

And yes that could be a big possibility

[Teddy Daniels]

HT has top men working on it.

Not fast enough though :mad:

:lol:lol:lol:rotfl

[small_studios]

I really hope we get the official pics soon I really want to see this guy now in a better light

The only way its going to look like Ford is if you turn off the lights..

[Teddy Daniels]

The only way its going to look like Ford is if you turn off the lights..

:lol:lol:lol:lol:rotfl

[Spartan Rex]

The only way its going to look like Ford is if you turn off the lights..

Zing!
:lol

[SilentSurfer]

http://i55.tinypic.com/25546iv.jpg

Quick trivia for you. Did you know that the princess character seen sitting on the throne in the upper left of that poster is Elvira in one of her very rare on-screen non-Elvira roles played by alter-ego Cassandra Peterson?

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/digidozer/3894184828_f79588bb65.jpg

[RJMacReady16]

HT has top men working on it.

Top.


Men.

[luckysim]

Top.


Men.


:rotfl Hopefully HT don't let the Indy figure disappear in a wooden crate in some strange warehouse crammed with wooden crates...

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:lol

[MaulFan]

I figured out why it doesn't look like Ford, it used to, but then he opened the Ark.

http://www.madfishestheblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/raiders.jpg

[RJMacReady16]

Tip your waitresses, folks.


(I'm finally actually enjoying this thread)

[Mr.E]

I'm hoping that HT can match up to this custom by one of our board members, Warrior038:

30633

30634


If they can do that, I'll be happy.

[RJMacReady16]

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/digidozer/3894184828_f79588bb65.jpg

____ing cougar.

[hunnipot85]

I think it looks like Ford. Could the likeness be better? Sure. But that can be said for all of the others companies products too. I'm sure HT will improve it anyway. :)

[Teddy Daniels]

Top.


Men.

:lol:lol:lol

[Teddy Daniels]

I'm hoping that HT can match up to this custom by one of our board members, Warrior038:

30633

30634


If they can do that, I'll be happy.

Wow that first picture is incredible that is definately the best Indy I have ever seen

[luckysim]

:wink1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6faK01fwMM&feature=related

[small_studios]

I'm hoping that HT can match up to this custom by one of our board members, Warrior038:

30633

30634


If they can do that, I'll be happy.

Warrior did a great job with his repaint. Always thought his looked really nice.

[Mightytrex]

:wink1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6faK01fwMM&feature=related

EPIC.:goodpost:

[The Ween]

Well, I'm not going to read through all this thread, but looking at the pics that were released, all I can say is, that sculpt is ca-ca!

That's my opinion and I'm allowed to say it. :D

[BottleRocket]

I'm hoping that HT can match up to this custom by one of our board members, Warrior038:

30633

30634


If they can do that, I'll be happy.

:goodpost:

I agree Mr E. This has been one of my favorite Indy's since seeing it a while back in the customs thread. This is yet another example of how accurate Trevor's sculpt truly is once the heavy handed paint apps are upgraded.

One of the many amazing details on this figure is that he modified and used the SS jacket.

I am a firm believer that in the right hands the SS figure has unbelievable potential. It just takes someone with the skill and passion to bring it out.

Awesome figure!!!

[Sachiel]

Well yeah. There's plenty proof of that.

But it doesn't change the fact that it's a turd straight out of the box.

[BottleRocket]

Good point but it at least it wasn't a $200.00 "turd".

[snoop101]

I think the sculpt is pretty close, Id say about 90% there. The only thing off IMO are his eyes, They seem a tad bit to far apart.

[Snake Eater]

:lecture

I think what we've seen in the pics so far is a removable hat, which is easy to believe because it does look off to me.

This is what I am hoping too, the hat is just not on right.

I really hope we get the official pics soon I really want to see this guy now in a better light

I am always let down by the official pics, the TH display pics is where it's at for me.

Credit Andy Gan at FB. Looks great.

[Master Wayne]

I think the sculpt looks pretty good. It's sure to be tweaked and reworked some too. Though I've never been a fan of the PERS, I feel they hurt the overall appearance to be honest.

[devilof76]

Though I've never been a fan of the PERS, I feel they hurt the overall appearance to be honest.

It is weird that they put so much effort into making their sculpts lifelike, and then screw it up with those eyes. I never understood Enterbay's thought process on that either.

[Deckard]

Credit Andy Gan at FB. Looks great.

That shot is epic, wow, cannot wait to get this. The lighting is so much better, you can totally see Ford.

IMO that shot proves this is better then Trev's, to me that is, I just watched Raiders, Witness, and Blade Runner this past week, and Trevor's Raiders Indy while a great likeness, is too fat to be a young Ford. He looks like a middle aged Last Crusade Indy.

[Snake Eater]

This set kind of makes me wish I had not sold all this stuff, so I could mix and match:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/The_Dark_Knight_photos/100_4451.jpg

[Deckard]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/indiana_jones_wearing_his_hat.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/163929_1768619061472_1419072873_2032618_87050_n.jp g

[mfisher]

as much as I want to.. I am still not seeing Ford in that sculpt... I hope they rework the hell out of it..

[Kuat of Kuat]

That shot is epic, wow, cannot wait to get this. The lighting is so much better, you can totally see Ford.

The lighting is certainly better, so the shape of the face isn't being washed out or plunged into deep shadow.

I see Harrison one moment, but flicking from one pic to the next something is jarring. But then Harrison looks so different in photos, even from the same time period.

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/GreenGang/Indiana%20Jones/HTIndy.jpg

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/GreenGang/Indiana%20Jones/indiana_jones_1.jpg

He looks better with a tan:

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/GreenGang/Indiana%20Jones/HTIndycolouradjusted.jpg

[CyberVillain]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/indiana_jones_wearing_his_hat.jpg

If they manage to get him to look exactly like that I'll buy him!
My only worry then will be that the Missus will start an affair with the figure... :P

[Biojex]

Ha, Wonky eye.

[DinoLast]

I can't undestand how anybody can not see Ford in this sculpt, especially after seeing this new picture, but then again there were plenty of people on the Terminator 1 thread saying that figure does not look like Arnie, which for me was WTF moment. Oh and I see that somebody's going around saying if you defend this figure you're a Hot Toys Fanboy, well I have two Sideshow Indy figures, two customs using Trevor's sculpts, and the Raiders PF, so I'm no "fanboy"

[Kuat of Kuat]

Ha, Wonky eye.


Harrison or the model?

Harrison's got a doll dot!

[Deckard]

I can't undestand how anybody can not see Ford in this sculpt, especially after seeing this new picture, but then again there were plenty of people on the Terminator 1 thread saying that figure does not look like Arnie, which for me was WTF moment. Oh and I see that somebody's going around saying if you defend this figure you're a Hot Toys Fanboy, well I have two Sideshow Indy figures, two customs using Trevor's sculpts, and the Raiders PF, so I'm no "fanboy"

Amen brother, some people really have a skewed perception of reality to say the T-800 was off especially.

[Deckard]

Ha, Wonky eye.

Harrison and the figures eyes are both doing the same thing but reversed sides.

The left one goes up a bit and the right down, and one is brown in color, the other green. Its the light.

[Biojex]

It just looks like the left PERS eye is broken in that angle.

Not bashing figure...just looks weird to my eye. *runs away*


I like this figure *hides*

[Biojex]

I can't undestand how anybody can not see Ford in this sculpt, especially after seeing this new picture, but then again there were plenty of people on the Terminator 1 thread saying that figure does not look like Arnie, which for me was WTF moment. Oh and I see that somebody's going around saying if you defend this figure you're a Hot Toys Fanboy, well I have two Sideshow Indy figures, two customs using Trevor's sculpts, and the Raiders PF, so I'm no "fanboy"

WTF...Really?

[Deckard]

Dont worry I was jumping on you just pointing it out because I found it cool.

I mean the fact Hot Toys can accomplish the same effect as Harrison's eyes in real life makes me like the PERS even more.

[Kuat of Kuat]

Of the many official faces of ROTLA Indy, the HT is the most impressive and promising.

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/GreenGang/Indiana%20Jones/compareIndys.jpg

The fedora needs some adjustment, but at least it's not like this:

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/GreenGang/Indiana%20Jones/kennerindy.jpg

[Biojex]

:lol What's going on with that hat?

[Deckard]

:rotfl I'm sorry I get opinions, but you *** clowns who actually said that Sideshow's out of the box is all around better shouldn't be driving.

[Kuat of Kuat]

:lol What's going on with that hat?

That... is the holy grail for some Indy collectors.

Give me current over vintage any day!

[Biojex]

Dont worry I was jumping on you just pointing it out because I found it cool.

I mean the fact Hot Toys can accomplish the same effect as Harrison's eyes in real life makes me like the PERS even more.

I love that the eyes can look different shades in different lighting, just like a real eye.

[Teddy Daniels]

This is what I am hoping too, the hat is just not on right.



I am always let down by the official pics, the TH display pics is where it's at for me.

Credit Andy Gan at FB. Looks great.

Awesome Timbo, good find!

That looks every bit HF to me :yess:

[Snake Eater]

Same bud! :hi5:

[Teddy Daniels]

Less impressed with this one but I am sure its just a really bad angle and lighting

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh356/jelley370/1136305koqlugqheugob09.jpg

Looks spot on here though for me

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh356/jelley370/1136321row1obfryiwyzx6.jpg

[Biojex]

Mmm...good photos. Can't wait for the official pics.

[DinoLast]

Less impressed with this one but I am sure its just a really bad angle and lighting

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh356/jelley370/1136305koqlugqheugob09.jpg

Looks spot on here though for me

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh356/jelley370/1136321row1obfryiwyzx6.jpg

It's the lighting underneath, the same effect is giving Thor a piggish look, which we all know from other angles Thor looks really good so far.

[Snake Eater]

My only real concern is the jacket looking a tad thick/bulky, esp at the sleeve.

[Teddy Daniels]

Yes I agree the lighting is not flattering this at all

[Teddy Daniels]

My only real concern is the jacket looking a tad thick/bulky, esp at the sleeve.

I know exactly what you mean, I wonder if it is too bulky in hand would Kato/Soverign Studios do another run :dunno

[MarfMaster]

My only real concern is the jacket looking a tad thick/bulky, esp at the sleeve.

:lecture

Unless HT changes it, sovereign's is still the best Raiders option out there.

These new pics of the sculpt have me seeing a tad bit more HF in there :pray: And Deckard is right about Trevor's sculpt not being quite lean enough, here's hoping they nail it by release!

[cking]

No pics of this HT prototype are convincing me that it's a good likeness. It just doesn't say "Harrison Ford" to me. I have confidence that HT will re-visit this sculpt and improve it a great deal (I'm keeping my fingers crossed). Trevor's PF sculpt is vastly superior to this current head sculpt that HT are showing. Let's hope they fix the issues with the innacurate hat shape too. I (and many other collectors of Indy gear) can tell you that the Raiders Fedora is a very illusive and difficult shape to recreate in a real Fedora and for that reason, a lot of care needs to be given when sculpting the distinctive Raiders Fedora shape. Even the wardrobe department couldn't re-create the shape for Temple of Doom or Last Crusade. The HT Fedora is horribly generic at the moment and fails completely (like the Cinemaquette version). His hat is just as important as his likeness if they want this to be the best Raiders Indy figure offered. Trevor understood this and managed to capture the subtle brim swoops, curls and shape of the crown / front pinch which is why the Indy PF is the most successful Fedora sculpt of any offerings so far.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee167/cking-photos/HT-vs-PF.jpg

[Teddy Daniels]

No pics of this HT prototype are convincing me that it's a good likeness. It just doesn't say "Harrison Ford" to me. I have confidence that HT will re-visit this sculpt and improve it a great deal (I'm keeping my fingers crossed). Trevor's PF sculpt is vastly superior to this current head sculpt that HT are showing. Let's hope they fix the issues with the innacurate hat shape too. I (and many other collectors of Indy gear) can tell you that the Raiders Fedora is a very illusive and difficult shape to recreate in a real Fedora and for that reason, a lot of care needs to be given when sculpting the distinctive Raiders Fedora shape. Even the wardrobe department couldn't re-create the shape for Temple of Doom or Last Crusade. The HT Fedora is horribly generic at the moment and fails completely (like the Cinemaquette version). His hat is just as important as his likeness if they want this to be the best Raiders Indy figure offered. Trevor understood this and managed to capture the subtle brim swoops, curls and shape of the crown / front pinch which is why the Indy PF is the most successful Fedora sculpt of any offerings so far.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee167/cking-photos/HT-vs-PF.jpg

Have to say when you look at it like that there is still quite a way to go with this :(

This really shows up how wrong and awkward looking that Fedora of HT's is

[Kuat of Kuat]

No pics of this HT prototype are convincing me that it's a good likeness. It just doesn't say "Harrison Ford" to me. I have confidence that HT will re-visit this sculpt and improve it a great deal (I'm keeping my fingers crossed). Trevor's PF sculpt is vastly superior to this current head sculpt that HT are showing. Let's hope they fix the issues with the innacurate hat shape too. I (and many other collectors of Indy gear) can tell you that the Raiders Fedora is a very illusive and difficult shape to recreate in a real Fedora and for that reason, a lot of care needs to be given when sculpting the distinctive Raiders Fedora shape. Even the wardrobe department couldn't re-create the shape for Temple of Doom or Last Crusade. The HT Fedora is horribly generic at the moment and fails completely (like the Cinemaquette version). His hat is just as important as his likeness if they want this to be the best Raiders Indy figure offered. Trevor understood this and managed to capture the subtle brim swoops, curls and shape of the crown / front pinch which is why the Indy PF is the most successful Fedora sculpt of any offerings so far.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee167/cking-photos/HT-vs-PF.jpg

The difference between these is what I think I'd describe as intensity. Hot Toys seem to have gone for an intense expression, working through the brow and narrowed eyes. Most sculpts of Harrison are more passive. Now to find photos of Harrison looking intense...

[Snake Eater]

The hat is what is annoying me most.

[Kuat of Kuat]

The hat is what is annoying me most.

I agree that the hat is really wrong at the moment. The brim doesn't follow the correct lines, and the crown isn't bulbous enough.

[Eamon]

I never the hat was called a Fedora!

[meanstreak]

The difference between these is what I think I'd describe as intensity. Hot Toys seem to have gone for an intense expression, working through the brow and narrowed eyes. Most sculpts of Harrison are more passive. Now to find photos of Harrison looking intense...

I agree... problem is Harrison is hardly ever this intense as Indy (or Han, or any of his memorable roles) Could be why people aren't seeing a great likeness.

[Deak Starkiller]

No pics of this HT prototype are convincing me that it's a good likeness. It just doesn't say "Harrison Ford" to me. I have confidence that HT will re-visit this sculpt and improve it a great deal (I'm keeping my fingers crossed). Trevor's PF sculpt is vastly superior to this current head sculpt that HT are showing. Let's hope they fix the issues with the innacurate hat shape too. I (and many other collectors of Indy gear) can tell you that the Raiders Fedora is a very illusive and difficult shape to recreate in a real Fedora and for that reason, a lot of care needs to be given when sculpting the distinctive Raiders Fedora shape. Even the wardrobe department couldn't re-create the shape for Temple of Doom or Last Crusade. The HT Fedora is horribly generic at the moment and fails completely (like the Cinemaquette version). His hat is just as important as his likeness if they want this to be the best Raiders Indy figure offered. Trevor understood this and managed to capture the subtle brim swoops, curls and shape of the crown / front pinch which is why the Indy PF is the most successful Fedora sculpt of any offerings so far.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee167/cking-photos/HT-vs-PF.jpg

Chris King ftw! :lecture

[Kuat of Kuat]

I agree... problem is Harrison is hardly ever this intense as Indy (or Han, or any of his memorable roles) Could be why people aren't seeing a great likeness.

Maybe that's what been niggling me. I'm impressed with the sculpt - it appears to look right when you look at each area of the face in isolation. But as a whole, when flicking my eyes between the model and a photo of Harrison, there's a difference.

[Deak Starkiller]

I never the hat was called a Fedora!

I never knew your name was pronounced "Amon" till the podcast. :rotfl

[SwedishHeat]

Well, posting a 1/4 scale head next to a 1/6 scale head certainly doesn't help the issue.

[DinoLast]

No pics of this HT prototype are convincing me that it's a good likeness. It just doesn't say "Harrison Ford" to me. I have confidence that HT will re-visit this sculpt and improve it a great deal (I'm keeping my fingers crossed). Trevor's PF sculpt is vastly superior to this current head sculpt that HT are showing. Let's hope they fix the issues with the innacurate hat shape too. I (and many other collectors of Indy gear) can tell you that the Raiders Fedora is a very illusive and difficult shape to recreate in a real Fedora and for that reason, a lot of care needs to be given when sculpting the distinctive Raiders Fedora shape. Even the wardrobe department couldn't re-create the shape for Temple of Doom or Last Crusade. The HT Fedora is horribly generic at the moment and fails completely (like the Cinemaquette version). His hat is just as important as his likeness if they want this to be the best Raiders Indy figure offered. Trevor understood this and managed to capture the subtle brim swoops, curls and shape of the crown / front pinch which is why the Indy PF is the most successful Fedora sculpt of any offerings so far.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee167/cking-photos/HT-vs-PF.jpghttp://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm314/DinoLast/IndyIndy.jpg

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm314/DinoLast/IndyIndy.jpg
This pic has the same intense look as the figure, so I thought I would put it next to the other pictures. Trevor's looks amazing, but it has totally different expression

[Kuat of Kuat]

This pic has the same intense look as the figure, so I thought I would put it next to the other pictures. Trevor's looks amazing, but it has totally different expression

Good call. After all, HT Indy does come with the Idol pedestal. Was the intent to replicate this very scene?

EDIT:

For a moment I thought the HT in Map Room gear had a different expression, but this picture confirms it isn't:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/newrelease_003.jpg

[BrooklynWolf X]

this is a more appropriate comparison.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh356/jelley370/1136321row1obfryiwyzx6.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/indiana_jones_wearing_his_hat.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/163929_1768619061472_1419072873_2032618_87050_n.jp g

looks damned close...cheek bones might be a bit too pronounced, as long as they soften it up a little, boom, spot on.

[Snake Eater]

Good call. After all, HT Indy does come with the Idol pedestal. Was the intent to replicate this very scene?

EDIT:

For a moment I thought the HT in Map Room gear had a different expression, but this picture confirms it isn't:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/newrelease_003.jpg

Likeness looks great there.

[Kuat of Kuat]

Likeness looks great there.

Yes, like the man in the hat himself, this figure looks very different from shot to shot.

The Map Room gear probably has the most natural lighting. I think the hands look fantastic in that picture. If the robe was hanging better that could be an actual still.

[a-dev]

I can't undestand how anybody can not see Ford in this sculpt, especially after seeing this new picture, but then again there were plenty of people on the Terminator 1 thread saying that figure does not look like Arnie, which for me was WTF moment.

I've been in that thread since day one and I don't remember anyone saying it didn't look like Arnie. :confused:

[MarfMaster]

Likeness looks great there.

It really does, I think if they can fix the fedora it will accomplish a lot without even touching the sculpt.

[DinoLast]

I've been in that thread since day one and I don't remember anyone saying it didn't look like Arnie. :confused:

So why did I feel the need to leave the thread until the figure was released?

[a-dev]

So why did I feel the need to leave the thread until the figure was released?

Because of the whole 'whose worse, complainers or complainers about complainers' argument probably.

As I recall people were preemptively striking out against people complaining simply because they expected it when in fact there was no one complaining....at least not to any extreme as might be seen elsewhere.

[FLOSI]

No pics of this HT prototype are convincing me that it's a good likeness. It just doesn't say "Harrison Ford" to me. I have confidence that HT will re-visit this sculpt and improve it a great deal (I'm keeping my fingers crossed). Trevor's PF sculpt is vastly superior to this current head sculpt that HT are showing. Let's hope they fix the issues with the innacurate hat shape too. I (and many other collectors of Indy gear) can tell you that the Raiders Fedora is a very illusive and difficult shape to recreate in a real Fedora and for that reason, a lot of care needs to be given when sculpting the distinctive Raiders Fedora shape. Even the wardrobe department couldn't re-create the shape for Temple of Doom or Last Crusade. The HT Fedora is horribly generic at the moment and fails completely (like the Cinemaquette version). His hat is just as important as his likeness if they want this to be the best Raiders Indy figure offered. Trevor understood this and managed to capture the subtle brim swoops, curls and shape of the crown / front pinch which is why the Indy PF is the most successful Fedora sculpt of any offerings so far.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee167/cking-photos/HT-vs-PF.jpg

:lecture :lecture :lecture

Right on all accounts cking... this really shows how far away this proto is... the sculpt doesn't even look like the same person and the hat is just altogether wrong.

And just think, this is only looking at the head and hat.... There's issues with the rest as well. I hate to quote Nam again (no, I don't) but the quality craftsmanship that so many have put into making high quality custom Indy items will be hard to top, even for HT.

[MaulFan]

It's hard for any mass produce item to compete with a custom, just having to go through a production process and the numbers produced will force concessions a one off doesn't have to deal with.

However, HT can compete with themselves and among all of their releases of the past year, it would seem like this one is one of their weaker efforts. I;m not judging the sculpt when I say that but some of the costuming and accessories, seems like they're of with some fairly blatant things.

[BrooklynWolf X]

Because of the whole 'whose worse, complainers or complainers about complainers' argument probably.

As I recall people were preemptively striking out against people complaining simply because they expected it when in fact there was no one complaining....at least not to any extreme as might be seen elsewhere.

actually dino's got a point. i don't visit that thread often and even i saw a few clowns saying it didn't look like him.

but i can't blame the ones that complain every now and then. i just wish they'd do it in a more civilized manner. i mean, on one side, people say "oh it looks like his stunt double"...which to people like us who think this figure is spot on, take it as an insult and lash out by talking smack about SSC's ver and this will go on until the end of ****ing time. i look at SSC's sculpt, it has the essence of ford, but i don't like a few things, over sized head, and lack of personality...oh and pisspoor paintjob. slap a different coat of paint, he still lacks personality and will ONLY be good for one pose...standing.

like when wolverine was shown, i personally did NOT see hugh jackman in that sculpt. i see logan, but not jackman, and of course, you have those that swear by the sculpt and you can't argue with people that have their minds already made up. also, you can't argue with people that approach things with a level of animosity.

hell, we even had people complaining about DX joker!! i believed that sculpt was out of this world, yet there were people that decided to custom make their own based off of HT initial sculpt. bottom line is: YOU CAN'T SATISFY EVERY CUSTOMER. out of 10 people, 3-4 are gonna step out and complain...there's no way around it. personally, i am with dino...i also can't believe how some can't see ford in this sculpt. on the other hand, i'm sure those on the other end can't believe how i, along with dino and others, see ford in this sculpt.

when HTs jones is released, i'll be picking up 2. i don't see the need for any revisions. it looks like ford, has personality, great paintjob, proportioned head, and best of all, PERS. if they do make revisions, all that needs to be done IMO is to soften his cheekbones, that's all.

[DinoLast]

The PF looks great, I always said that even when the 'It looks like Ron Pearlman' comments were being made, but you can't compare two completely different expressions.

[Kuzeh]

Of the many official faces of ROTLA Indy, the HT is the most impressive and promising.

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss104/GreenGang/Indiana%20Jones/compareIndys.jpg

:exactly:
yep, thanks for putting things in perspective...
While not perfect, I think HT's will be the best 1/6 Indy to date...

:rotfl I'm sorry I get opinions, but you *** clowns who actually said that Sideshow's out of the box is all around better shouldn't be driving.

:lecture:lecture:lecture

Besides, comparing it to the 1/4 PF is lame...

[Darth Waller]

I've got a $25 GC burning a whole in my Sideshow wallet that expires on the 31st. Very tempted to get the Belloq EX since Sideshow's idol chamber looks better than HT's.

[BrooklynWolf X]

:lecture :lecture :lecture

Right on all accounts cking... this really shows how far away this proto is... the sculpt doesn't even look like the same person and the hat is just altogether wrong.

And just think, this is only looking at the head and hat.... There's issues with the rest as well. I hate to quote Nam again (no, I don't) but the quality craftsmanship that so many have put into making high quality custom Indy items will be hard to top, even for HT.

ok, IMO, as you've shared yours, is yeah, the PF looks like ford. but i don't like it because to me, it looks like it was sculpted by someone that draws caricatures of celebrities in those MAD comics back in the day. what i mean by that is, features are usually more pronounced and exaggerated, but it captures the essence of the person, therefore making him look familiar.

i'm chinese, and even i want to say "whats up with his eyes? is this short round post 'wanna look like Doctor jones' surgery?"

what makes the PF sculpt stand out, IMO, is that he managed to capture that lazy lip thing that ford does at times. what the DX ver did is capture his intense look, which he does many times, but for some or many here, they all remember him most when he's ACTING and his expression is more whimsical. a face he did that stands out for me is from ToD..."WE.ARE GOING.TO DIE!!! =(". personally, it would be amazing and above and beyond if HT did that sculpt.

anyway, this is my opinion on the PF and DX comparison. i see ford in both sculpts.

[DinoLast]

actually dino's got a point. i don't visit that thread often and even i saw a few clowns saying it didn't look like him.

but i can't blame the ones that complain every now and then. i just wish they'd do it in a more civilized manner. i mean, on one side, people say "oh it looks like his stunt double"...which to people like us who think this figure is spot on, take it as an insult and lash out by talking smack about SSC's ver and this will go on until the end of ****ing time. i look at SSC's sculpt, it has the essence of ford, but i don't like a few things, over sized head, and lack of personality...oh and pisspoor paintjob. slap a different coat of paint, he still lacks personality and will ONLY be good for one pose...standing.

like when wolverine was shown, i personally did NOT see hugh jackman in that sculpt. i see logan, but not jackman, and of course, you have those that swear by the sculpt and you can't argue with people that have their minds already made up. also, you can't argue with people that approach things with a level of animosity.

hell, we even had people complaining about DX joker!! i believed that sculpt was out of this world, yet there were people that decided to custom make their own based off of HT initial sculpt. bottom line is: YOU CAN'T SATISFY EVERY CUSTOMER. out of 10 people, 3-4 are gonna step out and complain...there's no way around it. personally, i am with dino...i also can't believe how some can't see ford in this sculpt. on the other hand, i'm sure those on the other end can't believe how i, along with dino and others, see ford in this sculpt.

when HTs jones is released, i'll be picking up 2. i don't see the need for any revisions. it looks like ford, has personality, great paintjob, proportioned head, and best of all, PERS. if they do make revisions, all that needs to be done IMO is to soften his cheekbones, that's all.

That's what gets me, somebody will come out and say it looks like the guy in Last Crusade who gives Indy the hat (Garth), but give no reason for this because they really don't mean it, because they are just trying to be funny. Even though I don't agree with it, I actually like the post with the PF comparison, because at least cking is giving reasons as to why he thinks the sculpt is off, and this allows me to respond in a sensible manner

[Kuat of Kuat]

hell, we even had people complaining about DX joker!! i believed that sculpt was out of this world, yet there were people that decided to custom make their own based off of HT initial sculpt. bottom line is: YOU CAN'T SATISFY EVERY CUSTOMER.

yep, thanks for putting things in perspective...
While not perfect, I think HT's will be the best 1/6 Indy to date...

Balance and perpective are needed. The facts are normally in the middle, and not at either extreme.

HT are great but they aren't infallible. The DX Joker is incredible, but it was their third attempt to perfect the likeness.

HT Indy is already looking good to me. He may well be the equivalent of Joker #1 or #2. He may even emerge as the equivalent of the DX Joker when HT are done with him. I think it's too early to write him off, as we haven't yet had the privilege of properly lit studio shots.

[a-dev]

actually dino's got a point. i don't visit that thread often and even i saw a few clowns saying it didn't look like him.

The only person I could see saying that is Selektiv or whatever his most recent boardname is at any given time. I've always had one issue with yulli's Arnie sculpts that I've mentioned many times but to say it doesn't look like Arnie, I could only consider that trollish.

[DiFabio]

The only person I could see saying that is Selektiv or whatever his most recent boardname is at any given time. I've always had one issue with yulli's Arnie sculpts that I've mentioned many times but to say it doesn't look like Arnie, I could only consider that trollish.

It doesn't look like Arnold......... it looks like Uncle Bob.

[DinoLast]

The only person I could see saying that is Selektiv or whatever his most recent boardname is at any given time. I've always had one issue with yulli's Arnie sculpts that I've mentioned many times but to say it doesn't look like Arnie, I could only consider that trollish.

We also got the 'It only looks like Arnie 60%, and it looks off, but I cant say why' gang

[small_studios]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/indiana_jones_wearing_his_hat.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/frogger420/163929_1768619061472_1419072873_2032618_87050_n.jp g

Things that i noticed off the bat was the shape of the nose. HT sculpt has to much of a hook on the end and it comes out to far. If they brought it in alittle and rounded out the front more it would help. Also the shape of eyes needs to be refined just a smidge. The arch of the eye brows are also throwing off the likeness they are to thick. This is probably due to the paint application and not the actual sculpt. And someone else mentioned it too that the cheek bones may be to pronounced. The sculpt is just about there but not quite.

[BrooklynWolf X]

Balance and perpective are needed. The facts are normally in the middle, and not at either extreme.

HT are great but they aren't infallible. The DX Joker is incredible, but it was their third attempt to perfect the likeness.

HT Indy is already looking good to me. He may well be the equivalent of Joker #1 or #2. He may even emerge as the equivalent of the DX Joker when HT are done with him. I think it's too early to write him off, as we haven't yet had the privilege of properly lit studio shots.

i agree that HT aren't perfect, i don't think anyone here has said that ever. even the most diehard fan has to realize this as well. hell, it took them 3-5 attempts at RDJ to really nail him down, and even with his latest sculpt, it's him alright, but IMO (gotta keep saying this to remind people that its just an OPINION), he is not a DX joker level. bank robber joker at best, and even that was an amazing sculpt. remember JC's personal paint job of him??

and yes, i agree, with properly lit shots, maybe it'll help soothe the naysayers, but at this moment in time, i'm already sold.

[BrooklynWolf X]

this is a more appropriate comparison.

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh356/jelley370/1136321row1obfryiwyzx6.jpg


yea i was the one that mentioned about the cheeks, but this is a much better comparison shot. angle is closer to the pic.

[Mr.E]

Request to lock this thread until further notice? This virtual bickering is getting nowhere fast. :wave

[DinoLast]

Request to lock this thread until further notice? This virtual bickering is getting nowhere fast. :wave

We are not bickering, if anything I think there are some good for and against posts coming out now. Trust me this is nothing compared to some threads

[DarthNeil]

Request to lock this thread until further notice? This virtual bickering is getting nowhere fast. :wave

Request denied. :wave Virtual bickering (as long as it's civilized) is what the internet was designed for...

[a-dev]

In any case my opinion lands an exaggerated sounding Indiana Jones knockout punch upon all others...prompting many wilhelm screams.

[small_studios]

Ok this was done pretty quick and if i had a better quality photo it would have looked a bit better but here are a few before and after shots. The problem lies in the lips and the cheeks imo.

http://i55.tinypic.com/14npjs9.png

[FQRizzo]

Thought HT would knock this out of the park, but I'm seriously underwhelmed.

Likeness isn't doing anything for me. I'll reserve judgement until better pictures / revisions are done before I decide if I want this.

[Raymond Ferraro]

that definitely helped,

I also think a big part of it is his very light complexion and his eyes are too brown they should be more hazel

[MarfMaster]

http://i55.tinypic.com/14npjs9.png

Ace changes, looks loads better.

[BrooklynWolf X]

Ok this was done pretty quick and if i had a better quality photo it would have looked a bit better but here are a few before and after shots. The problem lies in the lips and the cheeks imo.

http://i55.tinypic.com/14npjs9.png

just as i figured, it was the cheeks. the eyebrows and lips didn't need to be touched. especially the eyebrows. its much closer now, but now his expression went from aggressive to "i don't know if this whip is gonna reach that statue".

[Kuat of Kuat]

that definitely helped,

I also think a big part of it is his very light complexion and his eyes are too brown they should be more hazel

I don't think he's a pale as he appears - not when you compare the Map Room photos. Difficult to tell the true eye colour yet.

[Deak Starkiller]

I've got a $25 GC burning a whole in my Sideshow wallet that expires on the 31st. Very tempted to get the Belloq EX since Sideshow's idol chamber looks better than HT's.


Do it, do it! :panic:

[small_studios]

just as i figured, it was the cheeks. the eyebrows and lips didn't need to be touched. especially the eyebrows. its much closer now, but now his expression went from aggressive to "i don't know if this whip is gonna reach that statue".

Well my rendition isnt perfect but we get the idea. The cheeks def need to be brought out more and the way HT did his mouth its almost like he has the triangle smile face going on.

[FLOSI]

Ok this was done pretty quick and if i had a better quality photo it would have looked a bit better but here are a few before and after shots. The problem lies in the lips and the cheeks imo.

http://i55.tinypic.com/14npjs9.png

That honestly looks much better.

[Snake Eater]

Amazing how much that can change the whole look actually.

[Kuzeh]

Ok this was done pretty quick and if i had a better quality photo it would have looked a bit better but here are a few before and after shots. The problem lies in the lips and the cheeks imo.

http://i55.tinypic.com/14npjs9.png

So it begins... :lol

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[RollingJ]

Excellent job! I'd buy that. This looks so much better already, not completely there, but it gives me hope that HT can make the necessary changes.

[BrooklynWolf X]

Well my rendition isnt perfect but we get the idea. The cheeks def need to be brought out more and the way HT did his mouth its almost like he has the triangle smile face going on.

ah dude, i wasn't trying to be rude or anything, i was just curious as to why you altered the eyebrows. but mad props to you though, your PS changes made the sculpt even better.

[small_studios]

ah dude, i wasn't trying to be rude or anything, i was just curious as to why you altered the eyebrows. but mad props to you though, your PS changes made the sculpt even better.

Oh i know you weren't. I just did that in a few mins in PS. I just wish i had a higher qualtiy photo to mess around with. Anyway i hope we actually do see some changes on good ol Indy. This is very close to being an epic collectible.

[BrooklynWolf X]

Oh i know you weren't. I just did that in a few mins in PS. I just wish i had a higher qualtiy photo to mess around with. Anyway i hope we see some changes on good ol Indy.

they already have a real good foundation to work off of, and it would appear that those alterations are minor, so i'm positive HT would go back and revise him.

[small_studios]

they already have a real good foundation to work off of, and it would appear that those alterations are minor, so i'm positive HT would go back and revise him.

Oh yeah the foundation is def there. Lets :pray: they do the slight adjustments to make this thing over the top.

[DinoLast]

Ok this was done pretty quick and if i had a better quality photo it would have looked a bit better but here are a few before and after shots. The problem lies in the lips and the cheeks imo.

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Props to what you have done with the cheek bone structure.

Looking at this video, it would have been nice to have a second smirking sculpt like Trevor's for Map Room Indy
Sorry about the idiots title for the video, but it was the only one I could find.

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[mfisher]

One of the other issues is the distance proportions... further back in the thread there is a side by side photo of HT's head and an actual Harrison Ford photo.. I placed a sheet of paper over my screen and mapped the distances between the tip of the nose, eyes, mouth and chin and compared the distance proportions.. someone with some photoshop skills ( I nominate you Josh :) ) Take the HT head and lower the eyes just a teenie hair thus decreasing the overall length of the nose by a hair and see what that looks like.. (plus keeping Josh's crooked mouth.)

[cking]

Actually, I disagree. You can compare two different expressions if it's the same actor that's being represented. If HT had got it right, I'd be saying - yeah, that looks just like Ford. I already know that Trev's PF sculpt looks like Ford. I was attempting to demonstrate that one of the pics is Ford without any shadow of a doubt (the PF) and the other pic is like a generic Ford look-a-like. (HT).

If HT's had got this right, we'd be saying that BOTH heads look like Ford. Sadly, they don't.

The PF looks great, I always said that even when the 'It looks like Ron Pearlman' comments were being made, but you can't compare two completely different expressions.

[Teddy Daniels]

Kudos Josh you have done an excellent job with that mock up, thats a beautiful Indy right there, and gives me hope we are on the fringe now of an epic collectible :yess:

[DinoLast]

they already have a real good foundation to work off of, and it would appear that those alterations are minor, so i'm positive HT would go back and revise him.

Exactly, it's hardly a disaster if some minor alterations make it look even more like the actor

[JustinLuck]

I don't see Ford's likeness in either of those renditions. Hopefully HT will have a sculptor give it another go.

[mfisher]

The best test is to crop out the fedora and clothing and show the sculpt to a neutral party.. that is someone who doesn't collect these ( spouse, coworker etc) and ask.. who does that look like... if they don't immediately say Harrison Ford then they didn't get it right.. ( someone did this on another forum and their spouse said "Mark Walhberg" :lol ... those of you that are swearing that this is a "spot on" likeness" try that... it helps when you poll people who are not trying or wanting to see Ford in the sculpt

[melanarus]

http://i55.tinypic.com/14npjs9.png

That looks AMAZINGLY better. The curve changes in the Eyebrows, lips, nose, the shape of the face and jawline changes are spot on. I normally hate to read the boards to see people criticize and talk about changing hot toys head sculpts but this is amazing work you made on the changes, Hot Toys please use this photo to make the changes, I would possibly change my mind about not buying the figure if the head sculpt resembled something like the above.

I'm a professional artist/painter and I've painted Indiana Jones/Harrison Ford dozens of times, he's one of the hardest likenesses to get!

[bloodgear]

Don't really see him in it either. Knowing Hot Toys though it will be tweaked and tweaked until it's there.

[cking]

Yes, that pic on the right definitely shows some positive improvements. However - can I suggest that Hot Toys should be looking at some actual photos of Ford from the time he filmed Raiders instead of looking at photoshop composites.

There's absolutely no question about the fact that this head sculpt needs work (otherwise we'd all be saying that it was a perfect Ford). As I said earlier, the Fedora sculpt needs to be completely re-done and I think they should forget about trying to use an actual ribbon on there. It just doesn't work at this scale. I have confidence that Hot Toys will make the necessary adjustments to this before it's released and I hope they address the innacuracies of the costume accessories too. (His gun belt should be wider than the pants belt). The actual movie costume had a gun belt that was 1.5 inches wide. His pants belt was 1 inch wide. I get frustrated when these companies don't look at the vast array of reference material available to them when they're designing these things.

Fingers crossed they'll improve this and we won't have anything negative to say about it when the final production version is unveiled!







That looks AMAZINGLY better. The curve changes in the Eyebrows, lips, nose, the shape of the face and jawline changes are spot on. I normally hate to read the boards to see people talk about changing head sculpts but this is amazing work, Hot Toys please use this photo to make the changes, I would possibly change my mind about not buying the figure if the head sculpt resembled something like the above.

I'm a professional artist/painter and I've painted Indiana Jones/Harrison Ford dozens of times, he's one of the hardest likenesses to get!

[RollingJ]

The best test is to crop out the fedora and clothing and show the sculpt to a neutral party.. that is someone who doesn't collect these ( spouse, coworker etc) and ask.. who does that look like... if they don't immediately say Harrison Ford then they didn't get it right.. ( someone did this on another forum and their spouse said "Mark Walhberg" :lol ... those of you that are swearing that this is a "spot on" likeness" try that... it helps when you poll people who are not trying or wanting to see Ford in the sculpt

Spot on mate. Without explaining any context I showed a cropped pic of the prototype pics to my wife and she had no idea who it was supposed to be (and she knows what a massive Raiders fan I am). I showed her small's altered pic and she said Harrison Ford without missing a beat.

I shall also probably not be explaining to her how much I am likely to spend on this figure...

[MarfMaster]

I'm optimistic about HT improving the sculpt and probably even the Fedora, but I'm not as optimistic about them changing some other key parts of his adventure gear (namely the jacket) that need some serious attention.

[mfisher]

I shall also probably not be explaining to her how much I am likely to spend on this figure...

Damn good advice my friend......

I get frustrated when these companies don't look at the vast array of reference material available to them when they're designing these things.

you'd think there would be at least ONE huge Indy fan on their creative team that would do that... apparently not...

[melanarus]

Yeah, that jacket needed some weathering. The T-800 jacket was weathered well, so I'm sure changes to everything will be made.

[The Josh]

:rotfl I'm sorry I get opinions, but you *** clowns who actually said that Sideshow's out of the box is all around better shouldn't be driving.

Obviously you don't when you when you make statements like this. :lol :slap

but i can't blame the ones that complain every now and then. i just wish they'd do it in a more civilized manner. i mean, on one side, people say "oh it looks like his stunt double"...which to people like us who think this figure is spot on, take it as an insult and lash out by talking smack about SSC's ver and this will go on until the end of ****ing time. i look at SSC's sculpt, it has the essence of ford, but i don't like a few things, over sized head, and lack of personality...oh and pisspoor paintjob. slap a different coat of paint, he still lacks personality and will ONLY be good for one pose...standing.

Thing is I see more "attacking" from the HT Fanboys than I do anything else. Now, it kind of was the other way around when the SS Indy figures came out. Sure some have been a bit harsh but honestly saying it looks like his stunt double isn't all that damn bad. If folks are getting hurt over these comments then maybe an internet forum isnt for you.

Thought HT would knock this out of the park, but I'm seriously underwhelmed.

Likeness isn't doing anything for me. I'll reserve judgement until better pictures / revisions are done before I decide if I want this.

Thats how I feel Rizzo. As I said earlier that with all the really cool stuff they showed or I have on order this had a tall order in front of it. Especially so when you consider the level of awesomeness HT does on a regular basis.

A safety order right now is the best thing one can do if you're on the fence incase they really go back and tweak this. Though, I'm starting to fall on the side of the fence that may not order it at all.