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DinoDB1975
12-02-2010, 04:07 PM
Pre-order on 12/9.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=29245&source=120210news&utm_source=newsletter-pers-120210news&utm_medium=email

Darth Madden
12-02-2010, 04:10 PM
Oh man.... since I have the Jabba setup I guess this is pretty much a must have.

swabie2424
12-02-2010, 04:16 PM
A must have for me also.... the Jabba set-up just wouldn't be complete.

He looks good!

DarthNeil
12-02-2010, 04:23 PM
Oh man.... since I have the Jabba setup I guess this is pretty much a must have.


A must have for me also.... the Jabba set-up just wouldn't be complete.

He looks good!

Agreed. :hi5:

rnbuda
12-02-2010, 04:43 PM
That Guard looks amazing! Fur is excellent!

lerath666
12-02-2010, 04:46 PM
looks great... but still looks rotocast. not interested.

Wor-Gar
12-02-2010, 04:53 PM
New sculpt with broken horn.

This one is supposed to come with the missing axe as well.

"Diaper" looks worse on this one.

Expression might be better, more mean. Not sure.

If this is Gartogg, who is the first one? And who the hell is Gartogg anyway?

thenammagazine
12-02-2010, 04:53 PM
Looking forward to the $130 corner of a wall! :rock:rock:rock

Wor-Gar
12-02-2010, 05:00 PM
Looking forward to the $130 corner of a wall! :rock:rock:rock


Polystone, mate. $169.99! :rock

thenammagazine
12-02-2010, 05:06 PM
Polystone, mate. $169.99! :rock

Yeah, newb, like the "corner of a house" Waypoint dio: $129.99 :nana:

Agent47
12-02-2010, 05:09 PM
Who the F has room for this stuff? Cool, tho.

Darth Lam
12-02-2010, 05:09 PM
Does anybody know if these will be sold together or sold separately?

pixletwin
12-02-2010, 05:11 PM
Guard = Cool.
Corner = :sleep

lerath666
12-02-2010, 05:12 PM
New sculpt with broken horn.

This one is supposed to come with the missing axe as well.

"Diaper" looks worse on this one.

Expression might be better, more mean. Not sure.

If this is Gartogg, who is the first one? And who the hell is Gartogg anyway?

Gartogg is the name of the first gammorean luke uses the force to choke.

IF memory serves, he leaves jabba's palace after jabbas death to become a bounty hunter?

Tales from jabba's Palace novel. It was a collection of short stories.

swabie2424
12-02-2010, 05:14 PM
I'm really hoping they're being sold separately. I don't need to drop the bones on the wall/arch thing.

I'm going to use my SDCC certificate, which is good on any new pre-order. Woot. That'll shave some $$$ off the price.

Darth Madden
12-02-2010, 05:29 PM
I'm sure they will come seperate.

RichAlot
12-02-2010, 05:31 PM
Maybe it's just me, but the recently released 3-3/4-inch Hasbro Gam Guard looks better than the 1/6-scale Sideshow figure primarily due to the paint aps on the face.

kl241
12-02-2010, 05:39 PM
Only a partial doorway arch?!?!?! Are they effing kidding?!?!?!?! Sideshow loves their polystone walls that go nowhere. Another pass.

Darth Lam
12-02-2010, 05:47 PM
I'm guessing the idea is that people might get 2 partial arches to form a complete one. Who knows?

ProgMatinee
12-02-2010, 05:48 PM
i'm thinking its a package deal.

CAhobbit
12-02-2010, 05:59 PM
Gartogg and The Archway will be sold separately.

-SideshowAlex

rushmore223
12-02-2010, 06:00 PM
I passed on the first, and I think the first looked better than this one.

I was thinking of making my own wall environments, how hard could it be? Certainly alot cheaper I would imagine.

JacktheRipper
12-02-2010, 06:03 PM
Only a partial doorway arch?!?!?! Are they effing kidding?!?!?!?! Sideshow loves their polystone walls that go nowhere. Another pass.
They really shouldn't be called an archway. I'm passing. It will probably be sold separate. All the other items that have this implied set thing have been sold individually.

bobafett108
12-02-2010, 06:08 PM
going to pre order gartogg but will pass on the arch way thingie. need to save money and dont need another enviroment that will sit in a box. will try to pick it up later when cheaper

icruise
12-02-2010, 06:08 PM
Maybe it's just me, but the recently released 3-3/4-inch Hasbro Gam Guard looks better than the 1/6-scale Sideshow figure primarily due to the paint aps on the face.

You're not the only one. I'll probably get a Gamorrean down the line, but I'm just not that impressed with any aspect of them. The paint, the sculpt, or the outfit.

As for the archway, from what I can see in the preview, it doesn't exactly scream "Jabba's Palace" to me. I'll wait to pass judgement until we see the whole thing, but I'm a little underwhelmed considering this is going to be perilously close to PF territory in terms of price when you add the figure with the archway.

galactiboy
12-02-2010, 06:10 PM
Zero interest in the archway... unless there is more than what we are seeing its a big pass.

Gartogg looks okay, but not seeing much difference between this and the regular guard except for the broken horn. Overall looks a little lazy to me.

rushmore223
12-02-2010, 06:12 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that this does not look much better than the Hasbro Gammorean Guard? Maybe I will have to liberate the Hasbro Guard from his package.

galactiboy
12-02-2010, 06:13 PM
Hasbro guard looks great with a repaint... but overall I think the proportions are better on the Sideshow. But if you have the Hasbro and are a DIY customizer; some time and a little bit of money can go a long way.

Wor-Gar
12-02-2010, 06:19 PM
A slightly different version of a figure we already have on preorder is never going to be too exciting...

Especially at Xmas time.

So what's next?

man_vs_machine
12-02-2010, 06:22 PM
A $130 wall???? Hummmm I'm in!! just kidding

kl241
12-02-2010, 06:29 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQPhnNk0QRoAaVjFYsjY8sfB-r-HgsZlav-g4YQ1oyDMIwOLaO

Deak Starkiller
12-02-2010, 06:30 PM
I don't know, I think a lot of you guys are being a little too cynical. This is pretty cool, better than than usual EU head scratches of late.

Wor-Gar
12-02-2010, 06:47 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQPhnNk0QRoAaVjFYsjY8sfB-r-HgsZlav-g4YQ1oyDMIwOLaO

That's awesome. Made me laugh.

And who is the guy he's hitting? An umpire with a play book?

Deeznutz6
12-02-2010, 07:23 PM
Gift card
ANOTHER variant though, man milking this SW cash cow

Lordscum
12-02-2010, 07:59 PM
Perfect timing!! Just when I have to start scaling back and be more selective this comes along! Easy pass , I'm not even getting the first Gammy! I bet it will be just as much if not more than Boil/Waxer and the kiddie(yes I have one on order) .

SwedishHeat
12-02-2010, 08:12 PM
We don't need an archway, we need the Arch over Jabba and the spitroast.

Just when I decided to go all-out on the Jabba display this thing pops up and makes me say "meh"

jedibear
12-02-2010, 08:59 PM
The first version's not even here yet and already there's a variant being offered? Um, okay...

Waiting for the blog to get a better look...

The Craw
12-02-2010, 09:22 PM
pffft....nice archway. was expecting the arch over jabba himself. no some partial doorway. not thanks. would rather have had that BBQ pit thingy.

Deak Starkiller
12-02-2010, 09:34 PM
With Jawa? Yes please.

earthdog
12-02-2010, 09:57 PM
It would be nice if Sideshow was planning to build off this archway with additional environment pieces that they let us know somehow. Maybe like Jabba's Palace environment "1 of 6" or something.

Or show the piece that coming up on pre-order with pencil sketches of the larger environment it fits into.

That would really help out in deciding if this is worth the investment or not.

Of course it would also be nice if these were made of something cheaper than polystone too!

BuddyGus
12-02-2010, 09:58 PM
Tempting...

Kuzeh
12-02-2010, 10:12 PM
I'm loving it!!
Looks great!!!
:rock!!

Puay
12-02-2010, 10:12 PM
A BIG YES:yess: to Jabba's Palace Environment. A BIG NO:slap to - Why is it so broken?...:huh

I thought the least being, archway ought to be complete.

Wor-Gar
12-02-2010, 10:12 PM
Of course it would also be nice if these were made of something cheaper than polystone too!


Polystone! Polystone! WHAT IS POLYSTONE!!!!

http://thekruser.com/files/2009/12/ScreamingMan.jpg

Puay
12-02-2010, 10:24 PM
pffft....nice archway. was expecting the arch over jabba himself. no some partial doorway. not thanks. would rather have had that BBQ pit thingy.


With Jawa? Yes please.

:lecture Yes please. Jawa with the BBQ pit.

kl241
12-02-2010, 10:24 PM
A BIG YES:yess: to Jabba's Palace Environment. A BIG NO:slap to - Why is it so broken?...:huh

I thought the least being, archway ought to be complete.

This one is.

http://www.theterrordrome.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sideshow-desert-cache-12-inch-environment-02.jpg


Polystone! Polystone! WHAT IS POLYSTONE!!!!

http://thekruser.com/files/2009/12/ScreamingMan.jpg

It's that heavy overpriced crap Sideshow likes to **** on us.

Puay
12-02-2010, 10:29 PM
Can I have it the other way? Let Joe fans take the broken arch.:lol

Puay
12-02-2010, 10:37 PM
Gartogg with the new facial expression is great!

But why the broken horn? For screen accuracy sake, none of the guards has got a broken horn.
I guess this would make Gartogg an EU figure.:lol

rushmore223
12-02-2010, 10:39 PM
Gartogg with the new facial expression is great! But why the broken horn? For screen accuracy sake, none of the guards has got a broken horn.

LOL, is it an EU thing?

Puay
12-02-2010, 10:42 PM
LOL, is it an EU thing?

Possibly so. He is supposed to be in ROTJ and there seems to be later story about him in books...

Maybe he broke some archway in the story, the environment could be EU too.:lol

The Josh
12-02-2010, 11:00 PM
The wall is kind of eh but great for the whole Jabba set up. The Guard looks great (Hasbro being close=:lol) but honestly I don't see much difference between the last one. If I still had my Jabba setup I'd get the guard for sure.

Jay1138
12-02-2010, 11:25 PM
Having recently acquired the complete Sideshow Jabba setup, I'm inclined to get this. But need to see more pics first.

sithlord13
12-03-2010, 04:12 AM
actually find the arch nice looking but aint gonna buy it - and sure as ____ not for a hundred quid!

DerMann
12-03-2010, 04:23 AM
"Gartogg was one of Jabba the Hutt's nine Gamorrean guards. He was stupid even for a Gamorrean and had a knack for coming across murdered corpses"

--from the Star Wars wikia.

Cocoboloboy
12-03-2010, 06:20 AM
I like the bit of wall. At least I do right now since I haven't seen the price yet. The main difference I see in Gartogg from the other one is his slightly open mouth.

creature4000
12-03-2010, 06:20 AM
Zero interest in the archway... unless there is more than what we are seeing its a big pass.

Gartogg looks okay, but not seeing much difference between this and the regular guard except for the broken horn. Overall looks a little lazy to me.

yeah.. I'm not jumping on this one. I just keep my first 2 POs

Khev
12-03-2010, 08:28 AM
Possibly so. He is supposed to be in ROTJ and there seems to be later story about him in books...

Maybe he broke some archway in the story, the environment could be EU too.:lol

In the 1996 Dark Horse minicomic "Gartogg Bangs His Head" he gets drunk at Jabba's palace and stumbles into an archway, breaking a tusk and crumbling a section of the door.

metaphorge
12-03-2010, 08:35 AM
In the 1996 Dark Horse minicomic "Gartogg Bangs His Head" he gets drunk at Jabba's palace and stumbles into an archway, breaking a tusk and crumbling a section of the door.
I Wish I Knew You Were Funnin' Us....

galactiboy
12-03-2010, 09:02 AM
I like the bit of wall. At least I do right now since I haven't seen the price yet. The main difference I see in Gartogg from the other one is his slightly open mouth.

I thought the mouth on the Gammy opened? At least when they showed early WIP the lower jaw was a separate piece.

ProgMatinee
12-03-2010, 09:03 AM
This piece of wall looks to be relatively small compared to the Joe enviroments.

agen_kolar
12-03-2010, 09:21 AM
No thank you. The first Gamorrean looks bad enough. And a broken archway?

Apone
12-03-2010, 09:52 AM
I'd probably get it if it were going to be half the price I am sure they will be asking...at over $100 plus..no thanks.. At $50...im in.

Darth Cruel
12-03-2010, 09:53 AM
Although I do wish the archway had been more complete, I am not hating on it like a lot of others seem to be. I am down for two of each. And I am curious about whether a good customizer can add to that archway.

barryo
12-03-2010, 10:07 AM
Although I do wish the archway had been more complete, I am not hating on it like a lot of others seem to be. I am down for two of each. And I am curious about whether a good customizer can add to that archway.

why not just have them build a whole seperate one out of a less expensive material & save the cost of what the dio would be.....:dunno

Darth Cruel
12-03-2010, 10:22 AM
why not just have them build a whole seperate one out of a less expensive material & save the cost of what the dio would be.....:dunno


What?.....

Edit - Oh, I had to read it a couple of times but I think I see what you meant...my brain is in slow mode this morning. I just like the idea od adding to this one. I may try to do it myself. I am going to look for a material I can mold into the existing "break" of the archway that will dry so that it can then me sculpted to match.

barryo
12-03-2010, 10:29 AM
Although I do wish the archway had been more complete, I am not hating on it like a lot of others seem to be. I am down for two of each. And I am curious about whether a good customizer can add to that archway.


What?.....


build a whole archway..............:stick


edit:...........................:lol

thenammagazine
12-03-2010, 10:48 AM
Can I have it the other way? Let Joe fans take the broken arch.:lol

Don't make me hurt you! :mad:


The wall is kind of eh but great for the whole Jabba set up. The Guard looks great (Hasbro being close=:lol) but honestly I don't see much difference between the last one. If I still had my Jabba setup I'd get the guard for sure.

:nono Have you seen the new Hasbro Gammy? I was all for busting Carl's balls about his comment on Hasbro's clones, but there's some merit here as far as the Gammy's concerned. :(

FLOSI
12-03-2010, 10:56 AM
So Gartogg is just a Guard with an opened mouth? All I get from this is that the standard Gammy will fetch even less in the secondary market after it's initial release... (or so I hope)

The Josh
12-03-2010, 12:47 PM
:nono Have you seen the new Hasbro Gammy? I was all for busting Carl's balls about his comment on Hasbro's clones, but there's some merit here as far as the Gammy's concerned. :(

Yup, I have and I saw it at Comic-Con. Its cool for a 3 3/4 piece. Thats about it though.

thenammagazine
12-03-2010, 12:59 PM
Yup, I have and I saw it at Comic-Con. Its cool for a 3 3/4 piece. Thats about it though.

Fact is, if Hasbro can get it that close with that much articulation at 1:18th scale, it's a ____ing shame Sideshow couldn't do better at 1:6. :(

FLOSI
12-03-2010, 01:05 PM
That Hasbro GG looked so good I almost bought it the other day and it's been a good 2 years since I kicked that habit.

Frankierock
12-03-2010, 01:13 PM
Looks cool But I am waiting for a PF Guard..

The Josh
12-03-2010, 01:15 PM
Fact is, if Hasbro can get it that close with that much articulation at 1:18th scale, it's a ____ing shame Sideshow couldn't do better at 1:6. :(

Well, people are willing to deal with joints and all on figures of that size. People would _____ moan and groan that they can see joints. Its not something that I personally find that big of an issue but some it kills things. I personally think its a mistake that they're not giving it articulation but thats just me.

thenammagazine
12-03-2010, 01:35 PM
That Hasbro GG looked so good I almost bought it the other day and it's been a good 2 years since I kicked that habit.

:monkey2:monkey2:monkey2 I haven't seen ____ here. If you find them again, please pick me up 2 and I'll PP you $$$ for them and shipping. :pray:


Well, people are willing to deal with joints and all on figures of that size. People would _____ moan and groan that they can see joints. Its not something that I personally find that bog of an issue but some it kills things. I personally think its a mistake that they're not giving it articulation but thats just me.

No, it's not just you. I think that's the reason a lot are passing. :(

FLOSI
12-03-2010, 02:04 PM
:monkey2:monkey2:monkey2 I haven't seen ____ here. If you find them again, please pick me up 2 and I'll PP you $$$ for them and shipping. :pray:


Of course! I'll check this weekend.

thenammagazine
12-03-2010, 02:12 PM
Of course! I'll check this weekend.

:rock:rock:rock Thanks bud! Wife picked me up Jabba for X-mas and I can't imagine not having them. Klatu's everywhere so that's a non-issue. I just gotta hunt down Slave Leia on da bay though. :monkey4

The Josh
12-03-2010, 02:13 PM
No, it's not just you. I think that's the reason a lot are passing. :(

I'm sure. Its not why I am personally but I totally how it is hurting the sale for some folks. I thought it was an odd choice when they announced the first Guard at Comic-Con 09.

FLOSI
12-03-2010, 02:14 PM
:rock:rock:rock Thanks bud! Wife picked me up Jabba for X-mas and I can't imagine not having them. Klatu's everywhere so that's a non-issue. I just gotta hunt down Slave Leia on da bay though. :monkey4


I saw her one time, wish I picked her up TBH.

automaton
12-03-2010, 02:28 PM
perhaps the guards should have been announced as a duo and potential customers would choose "either - or - both". in this economy, SST needed something for us to get excited about before the holidays, not relieved that we could pass it by.

swabie2424
12-03-2010, 02:44 PM
Sorry I didn't take a close-up... but here's the Hasbro Gammy from SDCC:

http://www.galacticbinder.com/images/sdcc-2010/hasbro/large/vintage-figures-4.jpg

FLOSI
12-03-2010, 02:51 PM
They added a fur loin cloth. He looks really nice.

thenammagazine
12-03-2010, 03:07 PM
They added a fur loin cloth. He looks really nice.

:lecture:lecture:lecture and well articulated, to boot. :(

http://mightyjabba.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/vintage_collection_gamorrean2.jpg

http://mightyjabba.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/vintage_collection_gamorrean1.jpg

icruise
12-03-2010, 03:18 PM
Those pictures look familiar... :lol

It's a kick-ass figure and the articulation is barely visible.

thenammagazine
12-03-2010, 03:21 PM
Those pictures look familiar... :lol

It's a kick-ass figure and the articulation is barely visible.

:lecture:lecture:lecture Borrowed them from the appreciation thread to prove a point. Wish the $100 figure looked as good and could pose as well. And yeah, the joints show that Sideshow completely fumbled on this guy where they could've shined. :(

FLOSI
12-03-2010, 03:38 PM
They stretched a home run into a single...

Darth Cruel
12-03-2010, 05:47 PM
I am in with the huge disappointment on the lack of articulation. I feel that if they can do it on Momaw Nadon, then they should have been able to do it the Gamorrean Guards as well.

thenammagazine
12-03-2010, 05:49 PM
I am in with the huge disappointment on the lack of articulation. I feel that if they can do it on Momaw Nadon, then they should have been able to do it the Gamorrean Guards as well.

Hell, if they cna give IG-88 umpteen joints, there's absolutely no reason why the Gammy can't have at least the same as the Pro.

Darth Cruel
12-03-2010, 06:22 PM
Hell, if they cna give IG-88 umpteen joints, there's absolutely no reason why the Gammy can't have at least the same as the Pro.


Yep...and although I will still get the gamorreans guards, they will end up being relegated to being props like the throne or the archway. Just stautes decorating the display.

Edit - It would make for a nice Christmas for Sideshow to re-think the idea of the articulation and make it happen...


And no...I am not even wasting my time by praying for it.

Darth Mitchell
12-04-2010, 12:28 PM
Search the differences
http://i51.tinypic.com/2e64z7b.jpg

Looks like the same figure but only with a broken horn.

MaulFan
12-04-2010, 12:30 PM
There's more expression on the new portrait, which I like, the first looks very neautral but the new one looks pretty pissed off.

icruise
12-04-2010, 12:30 PM
I've gotta say, I really don't understand what they're going for with this release. The head sculpt is ever-so-slightly different, but does that merit a whole new figure? Maybe there will be different accessories?

Darth Mitchell
12-04-2010, 12:36 PM
There's more expression on the new portrait, which I like, the first looks very neautral but the new one looks pretty pissed off.

Yeah but isn't it weird they announce this figure before we have the first gg in hand? It's like sitting in a restaurant and getting your meal and at the same time getting your dessert... You can't even taste what the thing you get first tastes because you get the last thing simultaneously...:dunno

Darth Mitchell
12-04-2010, 12:37 PM
I've gotta say, I really don't understand what they're going for with this release. The head sculpt is ever-so-slightly different, but does that merit a whole new figure? Maybe there will be different accessories?

Like what?







:dunno

MaulFan
12-04-2010, 12:44 PM
I was hoping a 2nd Gammy would mean altenate skirt with more fur.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/7/79/Gamorrean_Guard_with_Vibro-lance.jpg/150px-Gamorrean_Guard_with_Vibro-lance.jpg

Rook
12-04-2010, 01:07 PM
I've gotta say, I really don't understand what they're going for with this release. The head sculpt is ever-so-slightly different, but does that merit a whole new figure? Maybe there will be different accessories?

At a guess? They're considering that some collectors will buy two Gammoreans, and that they would prefer it if each had a different expression. :hi5: Good call, at least for me.

icruise
12-04-2010, 01:17 PM
Well, I suppose there's only so much variation that you can really do with a Gamorrean, but it just seems weird to have two figures that are almost identical like this, especially announced so far apart.

bloodgear
12-04-2010, 03:18 PM
And the archway will probably end up being released before EITHER Gammy is.

The Josh
12-04-2010, 03:40 PM
Well, I suppose there's only so much variation that you can really do with a Gamorrean, but it just seems weird to have two figures that are almost identical like this, especially announced so far apart.

I guess one can look at it similar to the Clones. They're pretty much the same minus paint colors. So while I like others find it odd so close together I just go well its like the Clone (which I love).

MaulFan
12-04-2010, 03:42 PM
I think it's a matter of, if you're going to put out 2 Gammy figures, your best bet of selling both would be putting them out about the same time to entice pairing them up. If they came out with this next year, people will already have built groups from multiples of the first. I'm sure we're getting 2 to make up for development costs and the uniqueness of the body.

Buttmunch
12-04-2010, 05:37 PM
At a guess? They're considering that some collectors will buy two Gammoreans, and that they would prefer it if each had a different expression. :hi5: Good call, at least for me.

That is why it doesn't make any sense. I ordered 2 of the original Gammorean Guard so I would have two, but now I'm going to be canceling one of them and just having Gartogg as the second. Seems like they could have milked some of us for three if they had just waited until after the first ones shipped.

MaulFan
12-04-2010, 05:47 PM
That is why it doesn't make any sense. I ordered 2 of the original Gammorean Guard so I would have two, but now I'm going to be canceling one of them and just having Gartogg as the second. Seems like they could have milked some of us for three if they had just waited until after the first ones shipped.

That's a gamble, even 2 is probably more than the majority will get. With different weapons and portraits, I think the best way to sell the ammount of Gammy's they'll make is to do 2 and hope for enough people getting both and just one or the other.

The Josh
12-04-2010, 06:59 PM
I think it's a matter of, if you're going to put out 2 Gammy figures, your best bet of selling both would be putting them out about the same time to entice pairing them up. If they came out with this next year, people will already have built groups from multiples of the first. I'm sure we're getting 2 to make up for development costs and the uniqueness of the body.

I agree. From my POV the mistake was not putting them out at the same time. People are way more likely to get one of each because they are different enough. Now, you're gonna have like Buttmunch above giving the axe to one losing a sale. I'm sure some will be picked up by other folks down the road.

Wor-Gar
12-04-2010, 07:03 PM
I'm getting just one... not sure which yet.

Either way, this is a retail purchase so I may wait for the cost to go down on the first.

Star Puffs
12-04-2010, 07:43 PM
Just saw this. :slap

A Gammorean Guard variant before the original is even released. That is pointless and a poor business decision to boot.

I was hoping for IG-88 or anything really but another variant.

SimFeliz
12-04-2010, 08:26 PM
I think it would be awesome if SS included a mounted Tauntaun head.

MaulFan
12-04-2010, 08:34 PM
I know some like the idea of the wall on the notion of it adding to the Jabba display, but I think it's best shot of selling well would be if it has the steps besides Jabba's throne and forms that archway, then it'll have even more appeal than just being some random archway from the palace.

SwedishHeat
12-04-2010, 09:41 PM
but I think it's best shot of selling well would be if it has the steps besides Jabba's throne and forms that archway

Definitely. The more they can build around the dais, the better. Carbonite Han is already a separate area of the Palace, and the "entry" to Jabba's palace makes it even more spread out of an area. We need the steps, the arch, and the BBQ pit.

If it's the entry where Luke chokes the Guard, then that means I've got to bring out that old, yucky Jedi Luke. . . which reminds me. . . why do we have a re-do of the Gamorrean Guard, when there's still the matter of Jedi "I just wet myself" Luke to correct??

I'm gonna keep beating that dead horse until Sideshow announces a new AND IMPROVED version. I mean, shoot, Hasbro's done like 3 or 4 Jedi Lukes in last few years, and they got it mostly right this latest time.

Puay
12-05-2010, 01:40 AM
I think it would be awesome if SS included a mounted Tauntaun head.

I think that is most possible when Sideshow do either Luke or Han on Tauntaun.


I know some like the idea of the wall on the notion of it adding to the Jabba display, but I think it's best shot of selling well would be if it has the steps besides Jabba's throne and forms that archway, then it'll have even more appeal than just being some random archway from the palace.

I think most people who owns Jabba's throne would want those steps, pretty much an integral part of the throne.

Puay
12-05-2010, 01:51 AM
I have a feeling the environment piece may be much bigger than what is shown in the preview image.

The real archway could be behind where Gartogg stood rather than the broken portion we see.

Darth Cruel
12-05-2010, 05:10 AM
Definitely. The more they can build around the dais, the better. Carbonite Han is already a separate area of the Palace, and the "entry" to Jabba's palace makes it even more spread out of an area. We need the steps, the arch, and the BBQ pit.

If it's the entry where Luke chokes the Guard, then that means I've got to bring out that old, yucky Jedi Luke. . . which reminds me. . . why do we have a re-do of the Gamorrean Guard, when there's still the matter of Jedi "I just wet myself" Luke to correct??

I'm gonna keep beating that dead horse until Sideshow announces a new AND IMPROVED version. I mean, shoot, Hasbro's done like 3 or 4 Jedi Lukes in last few years, and they got it mostly right this latest time.


LOL...sorry to see the hate for that figure. I always thought Sideshow did a great job of capturing Luke's expression when he was trying to hide his thoughts of his sister from Vader. I am looking forward to getting this set-up on a shelf.

fantasymaker
12-05-2010, 08:06 AM
Interesting as an idea, but really worth an incomplete piece of wall ?.....i'll have to meditate.

Wanderer
12-05-2010, 09:59 AM
I like it. It'll look good with my custom Lando standing in front of it. Just not going to pay full price for it, I'll wait for it to hit clearance ...

SwedishHeat
12-05-2010, 11:48 AM
LOL...sorry to see the hate for that figure. I always thought Sideshow did a great job of capturing Luke's expression when he was trying to hide his thoughts of his sister from Vader. I am looking forward to getting this set-up on a shelf.

I'll never understand this justification. Luke was more or less, confident and stern throughout ROTJ. Strolling into a gangster's lair full of criminals, knowing he was going to have to dish out some death. Walking in late to the Rebel's battle plan, announcing his intention to join the plan to blow up the shield generator. Confronting his father, and the Emperor, convinced he could turn Vader back to the Light Side. All this strength and confidence Luke displayed in the movie, and we have a "scaredy-pants" Luke.

How are we supposed to pose Luke, pointing a blaster at Jabba, when Luke looks like he's more scared of the blaster than Jabba is??

Darth Cruel
12-05-2010, 05:14 PM
I'll never understand this justification. Luke was more or less, confident and stern throughout ROTJ. Strolling into a gangster's lair full of criminals, knowing he was going to have to dish out some death. Walking in late to the Rebel's battle plan, announcing his intention to join the plan to blow up the shield generator. Confronting his father, and the Emperor, convinced he could turn Vader back to the Light Side. All this strength and confidence Luke displayed in the movie, and we have a "scaredy-pants" Luke.

How are we supposed to pose Luke, pointing a blaster at Jabba, when Luke looks like he's more scared of the blaster than Jabba is??

What does any of this have to do with a good job on the expression as it stands?

SwedishHeat
12-05-2010, 06:29 PM
What does any of this have to do with a good job on the expression as it stands?

Sideshow is focusing on a Jabba set-up. They've produced a Jedi Luke that looks silly in a Jabba set-up.

Y'know those plastic dog turds that they use to hide keys in?? They look very much like real dog turds, right?? They did a great job sculpting a plastic dog turd. There's really only one use for a plastic dog turd. Personally, I like my figures to not be a metaphor for a plastic dog turd.

MaulFan
12-05-2010, 06:40 PM
Jedi Luke came out well before they started to develop Jabba's Palace, it was meant to be a figure to represent Luke from ROTJ in a general sense. I think the portrait they went with works well for capturing the weight of all the things he had to deal with. Figures are tricky, it's not always possible to give the best representation of a character in a single portrait. Jedi Luke could use a more action style portrait as well. I think it should include both though, I wouldn't fully replace the current Jedi Luke head, just add another Jedi Luke and use them for different purposes.

jedibear
12-05-2010, 07:17 PM
Sideshow's Jedi Luke is a great figure...a really good sculpt that, as has been brought up many times before, is undone by the paint apps...those "deer-in-the-headlight" eyes.

Back to the topic...the archway, while almost generic in nature, may not scream "Jabba's Palace", but it does look like it would make a good display piece for any "Tatooine"-based character.

I'm just a little surprised to see it featured with a figure that is basically like the previous edition, with just a "broken" horn.

Still waiting to see the gallery of pics next week...

earthdog
12-05-2010, 08:54 PM
Has anyone been able to identify where in the palace this arch resides?

Puay
12-05-2010, 09:55 PM
Has anyone been able to identify where in the palace this arch resides?

My guess: The arch is the opening to compartments opposite to Jabba's throne where Squid-Head and gang resides.:dance

thenammagazine
12-06-2010, 01:20 AM
There's more expression on the new portrait, which I like, the first looks very neautral but the new one looks pretty pissed off.

Gotta disagree. Save the horn, they look near identical. I think the brows looking different has everything to do with Gartogg's head position.

devilof76
12-06-2010, 02:24 AM
That leaves the open mouth. I wonder if he's going to come with the third polearm.

thenammagazine
12-06-2010, 02:29 AM
That leaves the open mouth. I wonder if he's going to come with the third polearm.

Isn't the mouth articulated though? If so, then no. :lol

devilof76
12-06-2010, 02:49 AM
Mouth articulated. :slap

I would have bought one if he had more than a mouth joint.

icruise
12-06-2010, 06:21 AM
I don't think we know that the mouth is articulated. I kind of doubt it. It's true that we saw it in two pieces is one of the videos, but I think that's just the way it's made.

Shropt
12-06-2010, 07:48 AM
I don't think we know that the mouth is articulated. I kind of doubt it. It's true that we saw it in two pieces is one of the videos, but I think that's just the way it's made.

I'm guessing this is just molded in 2 pieces like Crumb's mouth and not articulated.

galactiboy
12-06-2010, 09:09 AM
I was thinking it was articulated... but again, just an assumption based on the WIP. And likely if it was then it would have been mentioned before now.

But still... just damaging the horn and opening the mouth a bit more doesn't really do much to differentiate the two.

Mad Old Lu
12-06-2010, 11:32 AM
Yeah, they really should have done a LITTLE more variation in the costuming at least to make it more enticing.

thenammagazine
12-06-2010, 11:44 AM
Yeah, they really should have done a LITTLE more variation in the costuming at least to make it more enticing.

They should've just included the extra head with the regular. :dunno

icruise
12-06-2010, 11:53 AM
They should've just included the extra head with the regular. :dunno

:lecture:lecture:lecture

For this price, I don't think two heads would be out of line.

Puay
12-07-2010, 02:43 AM
Are we seeing product images later today?:)

Wor-Gar
12-07-2010, 12:05 PM
Pics up now in the blog.

I kinda like his 'snarl'. Not sure it looks right; almost like the jaw is loose.

I'd have to compare this to the original to see which i feel is the better rep.

Darth Waller
12-07-2010, 12:08 PM
Looks decent, but I still don't get the partial arch. :dunno

SimFeliz
12-07-2010, 12:20 PM
$130 for a broken arch? I don't think so SS. I was holding off negativity until the full reveal. I really thought something would be added to make it more enticing (I was wishing for a mount Tauntaun head).

Darth Waller
12-07-2010, 12:22 PM
$130 for a broken arch? I don't think so SS. I was holding off negativity until the full reveal. I really thought something would be added to make it more enticing (I was wishing for a mount Tauntaun head).

Now that would've been something! :yess:

icruise
12-07-2010, 12:34 PM
When you can't get me interested in a Jabba-themed accessory, you know they made a wrong turn somewhere. $140 for that glorified stand is just wrong.

thenammagazine
12-07-2010, 12:44 PM
WOW! $139.99 for that?! :lol:rotfl:lol

Kinda almost makes the $129.99 Waypoint dio, the corner of a house, a gun case and an underscaled wolf seem more reasonable ...almost. :monkey1

Kinda wish this next reveal had been a clone variant. At least with them, visually, without getting a foot from them, you can tell they're different. A snarl and a broken horn will be all but missed in the Jabba display since these are background characters.

stickman
12-07-2010, 12:52 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/100006_press12-001.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/1000061_press14-001.jpg


Really? SS must be slipping.... on banana peels. :gah:

Darth Madden
12-07-2010, 12:59 PM
I like the new guard better and the arch is kind of neat.... but not $140 neat.

galactiboy
12-07-2010, 01:05 PM
Have to agree... I do like the new guard's expression; but that Arch is weak. Why make it look broken? Don't remember any crumbling half arches in Jabba's palace :huh

stickman
12-07-2010, 01:09 PM
This new cut away dio allows the viewer to get incredibly close and witness the amazing detail SideShow put into their half a$$ archway.

The Craw
12-07-2010, 01:31 PM
i forsee sideshow hurting in the future as they will have an oversized inventory of half walls, shacks, and arches that they can't even give away. just seems like they aren't even trying anymore. but, whatever they think will make money i guess.:monkey1

The Josh
12-07-2010, 01:50 PM
Gartoog looks cool but still feel the same on the timing of the release. The Archway is well overpriced really. $140 for that just doesnt jive for me seeing as its more exspensive than say a GI Joe figure.

automaton
12-07-2010, 02:06 PM
i almost feel embarrassed for SST to be offering this... perhaps they really just don't know their consumers as well as they thought.

BuddyGus
12-07-2010, 02:42 PM
Wow, $140 for half of an archway. I guess I will pass, I am sure that this will end up on the GC list and then it is still a maybe.

Kuzeh
12-07-2010, 02:46 PM
I have 2 of the original Gammy's on pre-order, I think I'll cancel the second one and get this guy instead.
As for the Archway, looks good but not @ that price range...

The Craw
12-07-2010, 03:26 PM
i almost feel embarrassed for SST to be offering this... perhaps they really just don't know their consumers as well as they thought.see that's the problem. they could have offered a part of the Jabba set up that would only work with those of us who already bought the throne. like throne steps and the big arch. but no. they decided to make a generic diorama piece to appeal to newb collectors. they really don't care about us long time collectors anymore.

MaulFan
12-07-2010, 03:46 PM
I don't think the arch was greenlit without the people building the Jabba setup in mind, I think if anything, those are the very people they had in mind. It's a pretty bland display piece if you don't have Jabba's throne and/or the Han in Carbonite wall. Even though it's not the best addition to those pieces, I do think they had intention of helping those already building Jabba displays.

However, what you see in this particular piece really doesn't connect to anything, it doesn't feel like you could put it next to either environment we have and feel like it builds on them. Best bet would have been to have some stairs, that way it could either be steps next to Jabba's throne or even the archway where Bubo sits when 3PO and R2 first enter the throne room.

galactiboy
12-07-2010, 03:56 PM
The archway is really a headscratcher to me, be interesting to see who actually buys it and what they do with it.

Except for the little dookhicky on the arch nothing really screams SW about it.

Wor-Gar
12-07-2010, 04:00 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/100006_press12-001.jpghttp://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/1000061_press14-001.jpg

Really? SS must be slipping.... on banana peels. :gah:

Hmmmm... not sure it matter which one I get.

I kind of like the under-bite on the first. The second looks a bit like he's saying: "Hey now"

I hate the eyes on both.

Maybe I'll just pick up the sculpt at TA...after Maulfan of course.

thenammagazine
12-07-2010, 04:04 PM
I don't think the arch was greenlit without the people building the Jabba setup in mind, I think if anything, those are the very people they had in mind. It's a pretty bland display piece if you don't have Jabba's throne and/or the Han in Carbonite wall. Even though it's not the best addition to those pieces, I do think they had intention of helping those already building Jabba displays.

However, what you see in this particular piece really doesn't connect to anything, it doesn't feel like you could put it next to either environment we have and feel like it builds on them. Best bet would have been to have some stairs, that way it could either be steps next to Jabba's throne or even the archway where Bubo sits when 3PO and R2 first enter the throne room.

Disagree here. I actually agree more with Craw on this. Owning both Jabba and Carbo Han, I gotta say, this is a bland display piece WITH Jabba's throne and I don't even feel compelled to buy it, not even the slightest bit. So with or without, it doesn't matter. You could just as easily display this as part of Mos Eisley as well. The fact that it really doesn't have any real substantial connection also implies it's a great "starting point" for those who don't have Jabba. The only thing that really connects it is a variant figure that's sold separately making it even less relevant.

Darth Madden
12-07-2010, 04:05 PM
The archway is really a headscratcher to me, be interesting to see who actually buys it and what they do with it.

Thats my problem. I have no idea how to include it in my Jabba display. I don't have much room so its either next to Han on the right or next to Han on the left.

icruise
12-07-2010, 04:12 PM
Ultimately, the arch is not a part of the Jabba display so much as it is a stand for the Gamorrean figure.

Wor-Gar
12-07-2010, 04:13 PM
Kcuf the stand...what are you guys thinking about the Guard versus the first one?

icruise
12-07-2010, 04:17 PM
I prefer the second one.

Wor-Gar
12-07-2010, 04:21 PM
I thought I would too, but I'm leaning toward the first one now. It seems more...Gammy to me.

thenammagazine
12-07-2010, 04:26 PM
Kcuf the stand...what are you guys thinking about the Guard versus the first one?

There really isn't that much of a difference. :dunno

Wor-Gar
12-07-2010, 05:11 PM
There really isn't that much of a difference. :dunno


Yeah, that's kind of my point. The arch is getting all the heat, but the 2nd guard really isn't much more than an extra edition size.

galactiboy
12-07-2010, 05:12 PM
I kind of like the 2nd Gammy better, but prefer the Kenner Axe that the first one comes with.

Wor-Gar
12-07-2010, 05:15 PM
...but prefer the Kenner Axe that the first one comes with.


That's how they get you.

stickman
12-07-2010, 05:29 PM
I'm sticking with the first Gammy. Like you said Worgor, the old Kenner axe helps. I also don't like those beady eyes. For me, I like the underbite over the open mouth expression.

Amanaman
12-07-2010, 05:40 PM
A single Gammy release with two heads and all the axes included would have been enough. They could price him higher, but add elbow articulation, throw in a sculpted environment base like Sith Anakin's, and some random critter and it would have been a good value.

thenammagazine
12-07-2010, 05:53 PM
A single Gammy release with two heads and all the axes included would have been enough. They could price him higher, but add elbow articulation, throw in a sculpted environment base like Sith Anakin's, and some random critter and it would have been a good value.

Hell, don't even go that far. They could've tossed in a "sand" stand cover like the ones that came with the inclusive Maulballs.

Wor-Gar
12-07-2010, 06:00 PM
I'd like a bobble head Gammy to put in back of my Chevy.

Deeznutz6
12-07-2010, 06:15 PM
See, SS figures now we will all wait for GC so they just up the price, figuring sales will be slow and then people buy at say 115$ or less and they still make the money if the originally intended on 99$.

How is this more than recon????

Customikey
12-07-2010, 06:35 PM
I have no issues with this release. It's a simple variation that will be very nice for people who want two Gammys, as many said they wanted. Seems a good variation to me! AND the extra axe, which is a nice addition. I don't get the complaining. Seriously.

As to the arch, it looks nice, though I would have preferred to be able to combine two to make a full arch.

UTtoyfan
12-07-2010, 07:46 PM
When you can't get me interested in a Jabba-themed accessory, you know they made a wrong turn somewhere. $140 for that glorified stand is just wrong.

Agreed:exactly::exactly:
:goodpost:

SwedishHeat
12-07-2010, 07:46 PM
I noticed they just put Waypoint at 30% off.

I think SS is taking the Macy's approach. . . price everything 30% higher than normal mark-up, so when you have your "massive" discount sales, you make a normal profit.

This really should have been the main staircase, the arch with the windchimes, that area. That way it would have been recognizable. This is as "generic" an area you can get in Star Wars.

Khev
12-07-2010, 09:16 PM
Kcuf the stand...what are you guys thinking about the Guard versus the first one?

I prefer the first one.

Movie character >>>> EU character (there are no broken tusked Gammies in ROTJ)

Puay
12-07-2010, 10:42 PM
I thought Sideshow could have given us an option for detachable complete/broken horns. Am thinking of doing a "repair" for the broken horn now.

Nico62fr
12-08-2010, 02:48 AM
Hello

it seems that the price of the second Gammy is lower than the first one, no ?

Puay
12-08-2010, 04:20 AM
Re-watched the Jabba sequence, the closest thing I found that resembles this broken arch seems to be part of the arch-shaped opening to compartments opposite to Jabba's throne. Even as a stand alone piece not to be display with the throne, Sideshow could have chosen another corner with more significant.

I like the idea of cut-away section of an environment without compromising scale accuracy. However the cut section could have been done with straight edges, this piece looks like Jabba's palace been bombed.

sithlord13
12-08-2010, 05:52 AM
the more i look at the environment - the more i want it but still no where near enough to pay that much...

bloodgear
12-08-2010, 09:22 AM
Hello

it seems that the price of the second Gammy is lower than the first one, no ?

Exactly the same price.

While I like the Arch I don't like it $140 much.

galactiboy
12-08-2010, 09:41 AM
Especially when you consider the Han in Carbonite was only $60 more and you got a huge chunk of wall as well as the Carbonite block.

earthdog
12-08-2010, 12:10 PM
I'd hate for Sideshow to stop producing Jabbas palace pieces and spin it to seem like lack of sales / fan interest. Clearly we want to buy more from this collection, just not these so much.

I can see why the second Gammy release was a slight variation. It's like troop builders. If you don't want 2 or don't like it, don't buy.

But I don't understand why they would invest so much into the arch wall. It looks great (I like the sand detail) but it's not a recognizable piece of the throne room. Seems like a wasted opportunity.

thenammagazine
12-08-2010, 12:45 PM
I'd hate for Sideshow to stop producing Jabbas palace pieces and spin it to seem like lack of sales / fan interest. Clearly we want to buy more from this collection, just not these so much.

I can see why the second Gammy release was a slight variation. It's like troop builders. If you don't want 2 or don't like it, don't buy.

But I don't understand why they would invest so much into the arch wall. It looks great (I like the sand detail) but it's not a recognizable piece of the throne room. Seems like a wasted opportunity.

If they can the Jabba accessories because this piece sells like ass, so be it. Carbo Han and the throne are all that's necessary anyway. I'm tired of their lame tactics of squeezing collectors' balls with the threat that, "Hey, if you don't buy even our ____ty releases, we'll cancel the rest!" They have polls, comment sections, Q&A, chat as well as this forum and therefore, the means of testing collector interest to see what would be popular and what wouldn't. Not utilizing that is just ____ing straight-up laziness or blatant oversight.

As for the Gammy variant, they're cutting their own noses off by announcing it before the original ships. Look how many freaks have canceled 2nd orders to pick him up. In essence, they're losing sales by announcing him now, before the OG has shipped. Yet another brilliant marketing scheme. :cuckoo:

ProgMatinee
12-08-2010, 12:50 PM
price on the dio piece is sickening.

lord_raptor
12-08-2010, 01:00 PM
I'd hate for Sideshow to stop producing Jabbas palace pieces and spin it to seem like lack of sales / fan interest. Clearly we want to buy more from this collection, just not these so much.

I can see why the second Gammy release was a slight variation. It's like troop builders. If you don't want 2 or don't like it, don't buy.

But I don't understand why they would invest so much into the arch wall. It looks great (I like the sand detail) but it's not a recognizable piece of the throne room. Seems like a wasted opportunity.

agreed , the steps besides jabba`s throne would have been a much better option

ProgMatinee
12-08-2010, 01:04 PM
Still should have the Max Rebo band stuff coming yet .

thenammagazine
12-08-2010, 01:17 PM
Still should have the Max Rebo band stuff coming yet .

If they're charging $140 for this pathetic corner, that will likely be a pass at the $900 they're gonna try to milk it for. :lol

The Craw
12-08-2010, 04:01 PM
i want the rebo band and the BBQ pit thingy. both would have been better selections than this wall chunk.

Deeznutz6
12-08-2010, 06:02 PM
If they can the Jabba accessories because this piece sells like ass, so be it. Carbo Han and the throne are all that's necessary anyway. I'm tired of their lame tactics of squeezing collectors' balls with the threat that, "Hey, if you don't buy even our ____ty releases, we'll cancel the rest!" They have polls, comment sections, Q&A, chat as well as this forum and therefore, the means of testing collector interest to see what would be popular and what wouldn't. Not utilizing that is just ____ing straight-up laziness or blatant oversight.

As for the Gammy variant, they're cutting their own noses off by announcing it before the original ships. Look how many freaks have canceled 2nd orders to pick him up. In essence, they're losing sales by announcing him now, before the OG has shipped. Yet another brilliant marketing scheme. :cuckoo:

:goodpost::exactly:

Same BS they used with LOTR, frankly its getting tiresome

Puay
12-08-2010, 07:33 PM
Seems like something as simple as the steps next to Jabba's throne would have made freaks here a lot more happier.:)

MaulFan
12-08-2010, 07:35 PM
i want the rebo band and the BBQ pit thingy. both would have been better selections than this wall chunk.

The band will at least happen for sure, and classic '83 designs :rock

Darth Cruel
12-08-2010, 07:42 PM
Sideshow is focusing on a Jabba set-up. They've produced a Jedi Luke that looks silly in a Jabba set-up.

Y'know those plastic dog turds that they use to hide keys in?? They look very much like real dog turds, right?? They did a great job sculpting a plastic dog turd. There's really only one use for a plastic dog turd. Personally, I like my figures to not be a metaphor for a plastic dog turd.


This really sounds angry to me. Kind of negates your credibility.

barryo
12-08-2010, 07:58 PM
as someone mentioned earlier the arch looks like a bombed out section of a building & seems like it would fit in better with military figures instead of the jabba palace........:dunno

earthdog
12-08-2010, 08:10 PM
As for the Gammy variant, they're cutting their own noses off by announcing it before the original ships. Look how many freaks have canceled 2nd orders to pick him up. In essence, they're losing sales by announcing him now, before the OG has shipped. Yet another brilliant marketing scheme. :cuckoo:

I think even more customers would be livid if the second Gammy was announced AFTER the first one shipped. Then they'd be stuck with the first one with no options.

At least with this announcement people can make a better choice an pick whichever they prefer. I think it's a good move on Sideshow's part.

earthdog
12-08-2010, 08:41 PM
I'll even go one step further... What if Sideshow saw enough people ordering more than one Gammy and said "hey, if we can get a variant head sculpt turned around quickly enough we can offer it as a second guard, giving collectors a choice and a better looking display."

I don't think they are going to lose sales with this move, they are catering to collectors who would have bought two anyway. And those who would have only bought one now have another option.

I think everyone wins with this sales approach. And I think it's great that they were able to produce this quickly before the first one shipped.

thenammagazine
12-08-2010, 08:48 PM
I'll even go one step further... What if Sideshow saw enough people ordering more than one Gammy and said "hey, if we can get a variant head sculpt turned around quickly enough we can offer it as a second guard, giving collectors a choice and a better looking display."

I don't think they are going to lose sales with this move, they are catering to collectors who would have bought two anyway. And those who would have only bought one now have another option.

I think everyone wins with this sales approach. And I think it's great that they were able to produce this quickly before the first one shipped.

Uh... :lol Nobody's "bought" anything yet. Sideshow hasn't billed for the first one. Did you just hit "last page" and see what's here and reply to it? There are already several posts in this thread from those who were ordering 2 regulars and canceled one (that means Sideshow loses an order for a Gammy) to pick this one up. So instead of getting an order for three (two regulars and this variant), they're only getting one regular and one variant. Some are even passing up the regular to get this one for the axe, so they're further losing out on sales. Bottom line, they should've waited to announce him until after the first Gammy had shipped. Sure customizers would be bent, but like Sideshow has ever cared about that before anyway. :huh

earthdog
12-08-2010, 10:47 PM
Uh... :lol Nobody's "bought" anything yet. Sideshow hasn't billed for the first one. Did you just hit "last page" and see what's here and reply to it? There are already several posts in this thread from those who were ordering 2 regulars and canceled one (that means Sideshow loses an order for a Gammy) to pick this one up. So instead of getting an order for three (two regulars and this variant), they're only getting one regular and one variant. Some are even passing up the regular to get this one for the axe, so they're further losing out on sales. Bottom line, they should've waited to announce him until after the first Gammy had shipped. Sure customizers would be bent, but like Sideshow has ever cared about that before anyway. :huh

I've been following this thread since it started, thanks for asking.

I understand how you feel Sideshow has lost business by the timing of this announcement. I just don't share your feelings that Sideshow has blundered by NOT screwing it's customers into buying a second or third figure.

Puay
12-08-2010, 11:31 PM
Shouldn't we be thanking the goodwill gesture that saved us some $$$.:rotfl

Husker75
12-09-2010, 12:07 AM
As many of you have said, how nice of sideshow to save me from spending money.

yet another waste of a good idea. and then, after producing said waste, charging more than i'd pay for even the stairs, or something useful, instead of a destroyed corner of bantha poodoo.

icruise
12-09-2010, 06:23 AM
I understand how you feel Sideshow has lost business by the timing of this announcement. I just don't share your feelings that Sideshow has blundered by NOT screwing it's customers into buying a second or third figure.

Yeah I agree about that. It may not make the best sense from their point of view but I'm not sure why any of us would be complaining about that aspect of it.

galactiboy
12-09-2010, 07:31 AM
i want the rebo band and the BBQ pit thingy. both would have been better selections than this wall chunk.

Totally agree... Band would be great, and the BBQ Pit (which would have looked awesome behind Jabba) would have been a purchase.


as someone mentioned earlier the arch looks like a bombed out section of a building & seems like it would fit in better with military figures instead of the jabba palace........:dunno

Wonder if it was originally made for another license, but then slapped a door opener doohickey on it and called SW :lol

thenammagazine
12-09-2010, 08:36 AM
Wonder if it was originally made for another license, but then slapped a door opener doohickey on it and called SW :lol

Maybe it was a prototype for the Weapons Cache desert environment for G.I. Joe? That has an arch as well. Though, for that same price, you get a whole arch, some pots and a coyote. :lol

galactiboy
12-09-2010, 08:38 AM
Yeah, just an arch... no critters or extra bits seems ridiculous to me. I get its kind of a large piece, but that makes the blandness of it stick out even more :huh

Shropt
12-09-2010, 08:52 AM
This could have at least included the windchime that Leia hits her head on in ROTJ.

I have to agree that this would look cool in my Jabba setup though. From the looks of it this thing is taller than the Han Carbonite enviro.

BuddyGus
12-09-2010, 10:17 AM
Does GoHastings sell these enviroments.....

Shropt
12-09-2010, 10:19 AM
I'd like a bobble head Gammy to put in back of my Chevy.

http://www.amazon.com/Funko-Star-Bobblehead-Gamorrean-Guard/dp/B000PGS8WQ/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1291915106&sr=8-10

galactiboy
12-09-2010, 10:20 AM
Does GoHastings sell these enviroments.....

They sold Han in Carbonite... not sure about the more recent releases.

Mad Old Lu
12-09-2010, 10:31 AM
Do you guys realize we're all getting angry and annoyed that Sideshow is really saving us money by announcing this second Gammy?

Yes, it's bad business sense on their part, but it's ethically nice of them that they chose to take a small hit instead of milking the customers who had pre-ordered a second original gammy.

We really shouldn't be laughing at them for this choice. They may be less willing to do something similarly nice next time!

thenammagazine
12-09-2010, 10:51 AM
Do you guys realize we're all getting angry and annoyed that Sideshow is really saving us money by announcing this second Gammy?

Yes, it's bad business sense on their part, but it's ethically nice of them that they chose to take a small hit instead of milking the customers who had pre-ordered a second original gammy.

We really shouldn't be laughing at them for this choice. They may be less willing to do something similarly nice next time!

Yeah, though I'm wondering if it was intentional or oversight. :lol

Given how rabid everybody was getting with the lack of announcements, and how ADD SW collectors can be, my money's on the latter.

Kuzeh
12-09-2010, 11:13 AM
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp226/NancyDB44/crybaby.jpg

icruise
12-09-2010, 11:24 AM
Do you guys realize we're all getting angry and annoyed that Sideshow is really saving us money by announcing this second Gammy?

Yes, it's bad business sense on their part, but it's ethically nice of them that they chose to take a small hit instead of milking the customers who had pre-ordered a second original gammy.

We really shouldn't be laughing at them for this choice. They may be less willing to do something similarly nice next time!

As I said above, it doesn't really sense to get mad about the timing. even if it is a little odd. But I personally would have preferred that they either just include both heads with the Gamorrean (perhaps using one head as the exclusive), or made the two figures more different from each other.

That said, more than any of these issues, I'm disappointed that the Gamorrean isn't a better figure, with more articulation, a better sculpt and better paint. And don't get me started on the wall section. Who among us would've been able to identify that as a piece of Jabba's palace if we weren't told what it was? And $140 for a small piece of broken wall? Jabba's throne was only $199!

Darth Madden
12-09-2010, 11:30 AM
Yeah, I'd hate to see what they would charge for the throne now. I'm glad it came out when it did.

ProgMatinee
12-09-2010, 11:31 AM
$200 was an easy buy for the Jabba throne because Jabba+throne is freaking EPIC.

Its harder to justify it on nonessential pieces like this. Similar the Thrawn chair is an easy pass, the Emperor's throne is a must have.

I don't bother with the 2007 vs 2010 dollars thing because I'm still making close to what I was back then.

Shropt
12-09-2010, 12:11 PM
I think some of you are underestimating the size of this wall. This wall will be as big as the throne sat upright and it's taller than the Han Carbo environment. Yeah its boring but its HUGE!

thenammagazine
12-09-2010, 12:21 PM
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp226/NancyDB44/crybaby.jpg

Why are you crying? :dunno

Kuzeh
12-09-2010, 12:27 PM
Why are you crying? :dunno

I'm not... other people here are...:wave

icruise
12-09-2010, 12:29 PM
I think some of you are underestimating the size of this wall. This wall will be as big as the throne sat upright and it's taller than the Han Carbo environment. Yeah its boring but its HUGE!

Have they given us dimensions? Looking at the photo in relation to the guard, I would say it's going to be no more than 18" tall, which is about the same height as the Han in Carbonite wall, but a LOT smaller than the throne stood on end (26" not including the gargoyle heads).

thenammagazine
12-09-2010, 12:29 PM
I'm not... other people here are...:wave

mmmmmmmmmkay? :huh :lol

Kuzeh
12-09-2010, 04:02 PM
Quit whining and place your order!!! :lol!!!
They're up!

swabie2424
12-09-2010, 04:11 PM
Okay... I'll bite first. I ordered.

I used my $50 SDCC Freaks party certificate (thanks Darklord Dave/Sideshow). Figured it might be the last new Star Wars item I might be able (or want) to order before the certificate expires at the end of the month.

Gartogg for $70 seems like a good deal to me.

Passed on the arch.

icruise
12-09-2010, 04:15 PM
You can use that certificate on new releases?

The Ween
12-09-2010, 04:16 PM
If you were only going to get ONE Gammy, which one would you get?

The Josh
12-09-2010, 04:19 PM
You can use that certificate on new releases?

Yeah, I used mine on Commander Cody.

swabie2424
12-09-2010, 04:22 PM
You can use that certificate on new releases?

Yes, it said it very clearly on there... any new order including pre-orders. Woot! So kind of Sideshow!

SDCC Freaks Party rules!!!! :hi5:

icruise
12-09-2010, 04:27 PM
Yeah, that's cool.

So will both of the Gamorreans be available from other retailers?

Qrest Fourstar
12-09-2010, 05:34 PM
I ordered. And even though I love the 1/6 line, and want to be a completest with it, I passed on the arch. The first time I've ever made a conscious decision to pass on something 1/6 by SS. It's not that impressive for that price. Maybe I can get it for $75 or less somewhere down the road.

I've also been considering cancelling Nadon's nook.

2010 the year of environments

SpaceCrawler
12-09-2010, 06:04 PM
2010 the year of environments

Absurdly overpriced environments.

Sean

barryo
12-09-2010, 06:25 PM
If you were only going to get ONE Gammy, which one would you get?

the one with the green thing ween......................:monkey4



:wave...............ween

automaton
12-09-2010, 06:28 PM
"Maybe I can get it for $75 or less somewhere down the road."

i think it is safe to say that there is no "maybe" about it.

thenammagazine
12-09-2010, 06:28 PM
the one with the green thing ween......................:monkey4

:wave...............ween

Given they're wearing grandma's hairy underpants, how will you be able to tell? :huh

barryo
12-09-2010, 06:32 PM
Given they're wearing grandma's hairy underpants, how will you be able to tell? :huh

i never really specified what thing meant...........

kind of like "what the definition of is is" .......???...........:lol
http://siliconangle.com/files/2010/04/image18.png

The Ween
12-09-2010, 07:08 PM
the one with the green thing ween......................:monkey4



:wave...............ween

Do you mean his green ween thing?

barryo
12-09-2010, 08:01 PM
yall's minds are in the gutter................:cuckoo:







:monkey3

thenammagazine
12-09-2010, 08:09 PM
yall's minds are in the gutter................:cuckoo:

:monkey3

:nono Don't front. You don't have to be ashamed of your obsession with green ween. I'm sure you're not alone. Take Flosi for instance...


http://www.officialdatingresource.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/yoda-fleshlight.jpg

barryo
12-09-2010, 08:12 PM
:horror............flosi is a :FREAK:.............................:lol

Avfin
12-09-2010, 09:31 PM
ordered....

swabie2424
12-09-2010, 10:00 PM
I've also been considering cancelling Nadon's nook. 2010 the year of environments

I actually cancelled my Nadon's Nook also. Just realized I really didn't need this at all for almost $100. If it ever goes on discount or is GC eligible, I might pick it up.

As others said here... essential environments and accessories are great (Emperor's Throne, Greedo/Han cantina table etc) but these generic arches, tables etc just are becoming a little too much to keep up with.

crasis
12-09-2010, 10:13 PM
Preordered Gartogg with no hesitations. The arch, however? Easiest pass since the Endor Troops. And this is coming from someone who has been a Jabba completist all along. I do have to laugh that Hot Toys' Spider-Man (WHICH INCLUDES AN ENVIRONMENT) is also up for order for nearly the same price as JUST the arch. Enough with the polystone, Sideshow!

The Craw
12-10-2010, 05:36 PM
debating which gammy to get. i only want 1. or maybe i should get both?? decisions.

Wor-Gar
12-10-2010, 05:39 PM
Enough with the polystone, Sideshow!

:lol

It's bullsheet!

Deeznutz6
12-10-2010, 07:07 PM
debating which gammy to get. i only want 1. or maybe i should get both?? decisions.

Ill get both from GC list when they go on it

The Ween
12-10-2010, 07:49 PM
debating which gammy to get. i only want 1. or maybe i should get both?? decisions.

I already have the first one on order so I figure I'll just stick with that one.

Avenger
12-10-2010, 07:57 PM
:lol

It's bullsheet!

Especially after the throne. Seems like a lot were broken in shipping due to poor packaging.

Avenger
12-10-2010, 07:58 PM
debating which gammy to get. i only want 1. or maybe i should get both?? decisions.

I didn't see a second version...at least on Sideshow's site.

thenammagazine
12-10-2010, 08:28 PM
I didn't see a second version...at least on Sideshow's site.

Look harder.

Darth Mitchell
12-11-2010, 11:39 AM
Especially after the throne. Seems like a lot were broken in shipping due to poor packaging.

I hoped they learned a lesson about it. Esspecialy if they want to ship the Emp in his throne as PF :thud:

SwedishHeat
12-11-2010, 09:18 PM
Especially after the throne. Seems like a lot were broken in shipping due to poor packaging.


I hoped they learned a lesson about it. Esspecialy if they want to ship the Emp in his throne as PF :thud:

As bummed out as I was to receive a broken throne, I would like to testify that it was not poor packaging. It looked to me like someone forgot to put the styrofoam block between the stand and the throne. The replacement I received was very secure.

thenammagazine
12-11-2010, 09:25 PM
As bummed out as I was to receive a broken throne, I would like to testify that it was not poor packaging. It looked to me like someone forgot to put the styrofoam block between the stand and the throne. The replacement I received was very secure.

Wouldn't that mean it was poorly packaged? :dunno :lol

Puay
12-11-2010, 11:49 PM
debating which gammy to get. i only want 1. or maybe i should get both?? decisions.

I am picking up both but if I need to choose, I did be taking the first one for screen accuracy since the horn is not broken.

The Craw
12-12-2010, 12:09 AM
i think i might keep both. it's not like they are shipping at the same time. plus it would be nice to have 2 different ones to compliment my jabba display. if i didn't have all the other jabba stuff i'd probably choose just one.

Puay
12-12-2010, 12:14 AM
I still think Sideshow should have let the second Grammy come with a changeable unbroken horn.


I would like to pose my 2 Grammies confronting the Droids, of course just like in the movie, each wtih a difference axe.:lol

bujang_keparat
12-12-2010, 09:47 AM
yes, I'm gonna grab a pair of em :D

Puay
12-13-2010, 01:22 AM
Am having second thought about getting the arch... I have bought every non-EU releases by far.

This piece seems to be in the middle, not exactly EU and yet not from the movies.:(:lol

ProgMatinee
12-13-2010, 06:47 AM
its a good piece if you don't have a problem with the price. I wouldn't consider it an EU piece (not that EU pieces are all bad).

anaking13
12-13-2010, 01:36 PM
It's a must have for me, the arch environment get more value to the 12'Gartogg. Probably i'll buy the two guards. Two storm for Lord Vader, two gamoreen for Jabba:wave

thenammagazine
12-13-2010, 02:31 PM
It's a must have for me, the arch environment get more value to the 12'Gartogg. Probably i'll buy the two guards. Two storm for Lord Vader, two gamoreen for Jabba:wave

How does it add more value to Gartogg? They're two separate items.

Kuzeh
06-09-2011, 01:58 PM
So this guy is already shipping... anybody ordered him?
I had two regulars on preorder and cancelled one to get this instead...
Anybody gotten shipping notices?