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Karma
08-13-2010, 01:04 AM
Hope you dont mind Karma, I added all the pics and spec (Wookster).

Hot Toys – MMS137 – Predators: 1/6th scale Falconer Predator Collectible Figure



~Movie Masterpiece Series~



Hot Toys is proud to present the 1/6th scale Falconer Predator Collectible Figure from the Predators movie. The movie-accurate Falconer Predator collectible is specially crafted based on his image in the movie, highlighting the highly detailed head and body armory, undetachable face mask, armor and weapons.

The 1/6th scale Falconer Predator Collectible Figure specially features:

- Authentic and detailed fully realized likeness of Falconer Predator in the movie Predators

- Realistic and accurate 1/6th scale of 14 inches / 35 cm tall

- Over 22 points of articulations

- Highly detailed head and body armory

- Two (2) pairs of interchangeable palms including:

n One (1) pair of fists

n One (1) pair of relaxed palms



Weapons:

- Three (3) interchangeable metal blades of different lengths



Accessories:

- Newly sculpted Predator skull

- Leather-like skirt and straps

- One (1) pair of forearm armor with right one for inserting blade

- One (1) pair of thigh armor

- One (1) left waist armor

- Undetachable face mask with LED light-up function

- Figure stand with Falconer Predator nameplate and the movie logo



Artists:
- Figure Sculpted by Joseph Tsang

- Figure Painted by Joseph Tsang



**Product shown is not final, pending licensor approval



Release date: Q1 2011


Predators TM & © 2010 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation. All rights reserved.

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PRIME
08-13-2010, 01:06 AM
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Me likey :yess::panic: my 1st troll post

SVC
08-13-2010, 01:10 AM
Looks awesome, but I guess this means we really won't get that falcon?

redefine
08-13-2010, 01:11 AM
Hope this guy will be launched at the end of the year so I could buy him with my bonus. And, hope HT will not be too hurry to announce Hans Landa.

Oh, so is his helmet removable?

isis_x10a
08-13-2010, 01:12 AM
what's that laser for? he doesn't have shoulder plasma cannon

darren1228
08-13-2010, 01:14 AM
I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong.......

"Undetachable face mask with LED light-up function"



Hot Toys is proud to present the 1/6th scale Falconer Predator Collectible Figure from the Predators movie. The movie-accurate Falconer Predator collectible is specially crafted based on his image in the movie, highlighting the highly detailed head and body armory, undetachable face mask, armor and weapons.

The 1/6th scale Falconer Predator Collectible Figure specially features:

- Authentic and detailed fully realized likeness of Falconer Predator in the movie Predators

- Realistic and accurate 1/6th scale of 14 inches / 35 cm tall

- Over 22 points of articulations

- Highly detailed head and body armory

- Two (2) pairs of interchangeable palms including:

n One (1) pair of fists

n One (1) pair of relaxed palms



Weapons:

- Three (3) interchangeable metal blades of different lengths



Accessories:

- Newly sculpted Predator skull

- Leather-like skirt and straps

- One (1) pair of forearm armor with right one for inserting blade

- One (1) pair of thigh armor

- One (1) left waist armor

- Undetachable face mask with LED light-up function

- Figure stand with Falconer Predator nameplate and the movie logo



Artists:
- Figure Sculpted by Joseph Tsang

- Figure Painted by Joseph Tsang



**Product shown is not final, pending licensor approval

mr.thrifty
08-13-2010, 01:16 AM
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6131/41293420139607343586904.jpg

Looks overweight and "special" in that pose...:lol
Deet deeet deeeeee...

















I'll still get it...:monkey3

mr.thrifty
08-13-2010, 01:20 AM
I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong.......

"Undetachable face mask with LED light-up function"

That is one big FAIL... Hot toys...:cuss

Wait.. that's under Accessories.... so we'll get two heads????

Dinosoar Daz
08-13-2010, 01:24 AM
Undetachable mask and no falcon! :cuckoo:

redefine
08-13-2010, 01:26 AM
With undetachable mask, could his price be lower than Berserker

or the prices are equal due to pred skull (which is cool to me)

And, so we can expect that Tracker will have undetachable mask also.

The ill Jedi
08-13-2010, 01:27 AM
Looks bad ass!

We never see his face, so I don't care about the undetachable mask.

toylion
08-13-2010, 01:30 AM
Undetachable mask and no falcon! :cuckoo:

And LED light-up function with no shoulder plasma cannon. No sale! Thanks Hot Toys, you just saved me some money.

darren1228
08-13-2010, 01:34 AM
And LED light-up function with no shoulder plasma cannon. No sale! Thanks Hot Toys, you just saved me some money.

He didn't have a shoulder cannon in the movie why would Hot Toys put one there? They should have included the Falcon tracker thingy though...

toylion
08-13-2010, 01:39 AM
He didn't have a shoulder cannon in the movie why would Hot Toys put one there? They should have included the Falcon tracker thingy though...

I know that. But what's the LED for then?

plasmid303
08-13-2010, 01:39 AM
:lol this thing better not be priced the same as Berserker.

No unmasked head sculpt
No falcon

Man, this figure must have the fewest photos in an official list of specs and pics.

viruz777
08-13-2010, 01:40 AM
He didn't have a shoulder cannon in the movie why would Hot Toys put one there? They should have included the Falcon tracker thingy though...

I second all of you. Doesn't make sense that the would include the laser sight tracker but no shoulder cannon (which is accurate to the movie I think seeing that he didn't have a shoulder cannon) and also the undetachable mask which is also true to the movie since only the berserker took his off.

What would have been a plus selling point would be adding the falcon as an accessory. This one just feel so bare even with the skull. I predict this would be the cheapest one among all the predators in that movie.

senbi575
08-13-2010, 01:42 AM
Probably the biggest dissapointment of the year from HT. No Falcon, no detachable bio. This thing has virtually no accessories, and they threw in that pred skull because they know it! I hope the price reflects these limitations but I doubt it.

toylion
08-13-2010, 01:44 AM
At least if it had the Falcon you could say the LED was to aim it to where he wanted it to go.

gunm
08-13-2010, 01:46 AM
So it really can't remove the mask? That plus no Falcon would prevent me from getting it.

I guess I should be thankful to save some money on this one, lol.

Dinosoar Daz
08-13-2010, 01:50 AM
Probably the biggest dissapointment of the year from HT. No Falcon, no detachable bio. This thing has virtually no accessories, and they threw in that pred skull because they know it! I hope the price reflects these limitations but I doubt it.

:exactly: I can live without the LED feature easier than no detachable bio and Falcon. I makes no sense to me. :gah:

Gigerfan
08-13-2010, 01:51 AM
No Falcon??? What's the point of calling it "Falconer"???

Non removable mask??

It's a FAIL, just like the movie.

EndoSickness
08-13-2010, 02:02 AM
Well the Pred is a nogo for me, especially cause it hasn´t the falcon but for the movie:
You´re almost a stand alone person...

Devil_666
08-13-2010, 02:31 AM
What's the LED for then?

To annoy other Predators at the theater when the lights turn off. Falconer is a S.O.B.

fawk3s
08-13-2010, 02:34 AM
Im still hoping SSC will throw in an exclusive falcon. If not, I'll wait for the Tracker and see what he's about.

Devil_666
08-13-2010, 02:36 AM
Im still hoping SSC will throw in an exclusive falcon. If not, I'll wait for the Tracker and see what he's about.

SSC doesn't throw in exclusives for Hot Toys products. Hot Toys decides if there will or won't be an exclusive item and what that item is.

fawk3s
08-13-2010, 02:40 AM
Then why is it called Sideshow Exclusive Version? Because only they can sell it?

toylion
08-13-2010, 02:41 AM
To annoy other Predators at the theater when the lights turn off. Falconer is a S.O.B.

Guess he didn't hear the announcement to turn of your cellphones and Laser pointers.

Centrocal
08-13-2010, 02:41 AM
SUPER PASS :pfft:

Devil_666
08-13-2010, 02:48 AM
Then why is it called Sideshow Exclusive Version? Because only they can sell it?

Yes, besides Toy Hunters in HK who get it first. Basically Hot Toys releases a special item as a "Toy Hunters Exclusive" for their store in HK. Then, if and when that figure is distributed by SSC in North America they get the same item and release it as a "Sideshow Exclusive".

But SSC has absolutely no part in deciding what Hot Toys picks as an Exclusive item for HT products.

nicky
08-13-2010, 02:52 AM
Where did you get this info from????? Its not on the HT Facebook page??????


I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong.......

"Undetachable face mask with LED light-up function"



Hot Toys is proud to present the 1/6th scale Falconer Predator Collectible Figure from the Predators movie. The movie-accurate Falconer Predator collectible is specially crafted based on his image in the movie, highlighting the highly detailed head and body armory, undetachable face mask, armor and weapons.

The 1/6th scale Falconer Predator Collectible Figure specially features:

- Authentic and detailed fully realized likeness of Falconer Predator in the movie Predators

- Realistic and accurate 1/6th scale of 14 inches / 35 cm tall

- Over 22 points of articulations

- Highly detailed head and body armory

- Two (2) pairs of interchangeable palms including:

n One (1) pair of fists

n One (1) pair of relaxed palms



Weapons:

- Three (3) interchangeable metal blades of different lengths



Accessories:

- Newly sculpted Predator skull

- Leather-like skirt and straps

- One (1) pair of forearm armor with right one for inserting blade

- One (1) pair of thigh armor

- One (1) left waist armor

- Undetachable face mask with LED light-up function

- Figure stand with Falconer Predator nameplate and the movie logo



Artists:
- Figure Sculpted by Joseph Tsang

- Figure Painted by Joseph Tsang



**Product shown is not final, pending licensor approval

nicky
08-13-2010, 02:55 AM
Im still hoping SSC will throw in an exclusive falcon. If not, I'll wait for the Tracker and see what he's about.

Seriously doubt it'll be an exclusive...that would poiss off so many fans as the bird is quite a significant accessory to have. Kinda like having a marines pulse rifle as an exclusive.

Devil_666
08-13-2010, 03:01 AM
Where did you get this info from????? Its not on the HT Facebook page??????

ToyWorld has the specs up.

Centrocal
08-13-2010, 03:03 AM
Does anyone have a screen grab of the robot bird in the movie ?

fawk3s
08-13-2010, 03:03 AM
Seriously doubt it'll be an exclusive...that would poiss off so many fans as the bird is quite a significant accessory to have. Kinda like having a marines pulse rifle as an exclusive.

Yes, but would piss me off even more if we got nothing.

ShazBo
08-13-2010, 03:12 AM
No face no buy. It literally ruins the collection. All HT Predators have faces until now. :(

Petition time? (i hate them cuz they dont work but I'm really upset)

DinoLast
08-13-2010, 03:19 AM
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Sabres21768
08-13-2010, 03:20 AM
Wow...no detachable mask.

They obviously couldn't get approval from KNB or FOX to make their version of the Falconer's face.

Centrocal
08-13-2010, 03:25 AM
Wow...no detachable mask.

They obviously couldn't get approval from KNB or FOX to make their version of the Falconer's face.

Then how were they able to do that for Guardian ? :confused:

Sabres21768
08-13-2010, 03:28 AM
Then how were they able to do that for Guardian ? :confused:

FOX approved it.

Any likeness for a FOX character has to be approved by them before it can be manufactured/sold.
If not, the producer risks being sued for licensing rights on FOX's intellectual property (the Falconer Pred).
Happens all the time.

Since we're not seeing the face on this, either FOX or KNB would not approve a face sculpt of the Falconer.

ShazBo
08-13-2010, 03:30 AM
Then how were they able to do that for Guardian ? :confused:

I seriously think they got lazy... period. They couldn't hide the batteries for the targetting lasers because he's got no cannon. This it is a slap in the face. The Collection is ruined and this is one of the best looking preds in the new movie.

tys1977
08-13-2010, 03:42 AM
NO REMOVABLE MASK,
NO FALCON..............
PASS
I'm curious as to what the proce point is on this one 'cos if it's the same as Berserker it's a rip off,

Berserker and Royce for me and that's it :(

This could have been so much more,
Kindest regards
Tys

Eamon
08-13-2010, 03:53 AM
It does seem a little lazy not to have a removable mask but damn is it still a great looking figure.
I will still be buying it and I dare say Hot Toys will do something to make up for the no new face sculpt.

I can definitely see why folks ain't happy though.

ShazBo
08-13-2010, 03:57 AM
It does seem a little lazy not to have a removable mask but damn is it still a great looking figure.
I will still be buying it and I dare say Hot Toys will do something to make up for the no new face sculpt.

I can definitely see why folks ain't happy though.

I know it looks great. That's the stab in the heart. All Predators Figures have faces until now. The figures suppose go beyond the movie now we're just stuck in the movie.

Matt13
08-13-2010, 03:58 AM
I was really expecting the face to be done exactly like the berzerker pred with a greenish color instead of red but oh well, only 3 of my preds have their masks off anyway. No falcon really sucks but we literally see it for less then 30 seconds and it didn't do to much when we did.

toylion
08-13-2010, 04:04 AM
I was really expecting the face to be done exactly like the berzerker pred with a greenish color instead of red but oh well, only 3 of my preds have their masks off anyway. No falcon really sucks but we literally see it for less then 30 seconds and it didn't do to much when we did.

So will you still pick this up if it cost the same a Berserker?

DinoLast
08-13-2010, 04:09 AM
Why would you display this unmasked anyway? :dunno

It should be cheaper than Berserker. (No guarantee though)

lord-22
08-13-2010, 04:23 AM
Only four pictures ?

gunm
08-13-2010, 04:28 AM
It may be that HT did not have a license to do an unmasked face for this pred. It wasn't revealed in the movie, and there may or may not be reasons for that.

It just leaves more room for Predators 2 I guess. :p

Matt13
08-13-2010, 04:35 AM
So will you still pick this up if it cost the same a Berserker?

Yes, I am.

dimicop
08-13-2010, 04:39 AM
Or this predator is much cheaper than the berserker , or this is a big fail for HT, they must include the falcon here, yes or yes , is the only way to recover this fail.

Biojex
08-13-2010, 04:45 AM
Awesome! he comes with a predator skull!

He looks great. I had no intention of displaying him with his mask off so the undetachable mask doesn't affect my purchase one bit.

Kinda sad about no falcon though but meh.

mr flibble
08-13-2010, 04:48 AM
Do i dare say its still a buy for me,i love the design of him...just no falcon!!! Will hottoys still come through and surprise us?

tys1977
08-13-2010, 04:48 AM
Only four pictures ?

Some more......
http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_6a81cf3c95fc64003266T2JhfEPrBUFq.jpg

http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_e3d8925030114748c5c4iWQVdjIy7MXp.jpg

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http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_d4fb6a322efb444f63e1Z8baRIHNxJLq.jpg

http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_b4dd090a870215db4fe3GllixUdv6Z2g.jpg

http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_7fb8d7acbba969b54235WNMZdhm5mACe.jpg


http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_1e1708c51fb7e9cc9693fLW9ClkerS9D.jpg

http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_2210c5f590be06030434WFrnq3t00TBD.jpg

http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_4268cc57154063a8aa9a1R8OjVFr4zku.jpg

http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_d942e5ad73347dc07da2Wlz8WStXqGWc.jpg

tys1977
08-13-2010, 04:49 AM
http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_88c9152e0d29867906cfJty2GzXZtp2c.jpg

http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_eddb22a8ec3b8f347c12UDYkMAELaBFO.jpg

http://bbs.bbicn.com/attachments/month_1008/20100813_e623794899f141e94a685slC8wZWxt7c.jpg


He looks good but I still can't get past the fact that the helmet is NON removable and there's NO BLOODY FALCON :mad:

Kindest regards
Tys

gdb
08-13-2010, 04:51 AM
Looks great but... "UNDETACHABLE face mask with LED light-up function???" No Falcon??? Come on...!

So very, very disappointed Hot Toys.

Calcifer
08-13-2010, 04:58 AM
Can't say the figure is a disappointment ..it does look fantastic, but "undetectable" bio!? ..and no falcon ..really hot toys?
You can make up inner sculpts for the avp predators ..but not these guys!?
I was going to pass on this figure anyway and just get berserker,classic and tracker ..but now i think tracker will get the same treatment as falconer..hopefully he will have the dog to partly make up for it.

Darkseed
08-13-2010, 05:00 AM
Meh, a lame figure which I had zero interest initially. Easy pass.

Biojex
08-13-2010, 05:01 AM
Love the dread coloring/pattern

Moguchiy H
08-13-2010, 05:03 AM
Undetachable face mask with LED light-up function

Why HT? :(
Oh. No falcon, no face, no falconer in my collection

mr.fan
08-13-2010, 05:07 AM
must buy, look how awesome that looks, and maybe he'll be priced slightly cheaper.

Dinosoar Daz
08-13-2010, 05:13 AM
He's very light on accessories too. I wonder if a more equipped battle-damaged version will appear later?

Eamon
08-13-2010, 05:15 AM
Thanks for the new pics.
Love the colours on the dreads.

As somebody suggested earlier, it's probably an approval issue as to why they cannot have a face sculpt.
There is obviously another movie down the road so maybe Fox still want the option on all predator reveals, even if the character died.

Predators contract may have different terms than Predator 2.

Station
08-13-2010, 05:16 AM
Apparently priced the same as berserker from what they are saying on facebook. No headscuplt equals a pass for me.

Calcifer
08-13-2010, 05:17 AM
He's very light on accessories too. I wonder if a more equipped battle-damaged version will appear later?

Eh ..no i doubt it..this guy never got damaged enough in the movie to warrant a second figure.

Macularius
08-13-2010, 05:29 AM
The head's too small.

slipknotpredator
08-13-2010, 05:31 AM
The head's too small.

No, no its not.

THE IMMOBILIZER
08-13-2010, 05:34 AM
what's that laser for? he doesn't have shoulder plasma cannon

Yeah and what about a single blade,... i thought that two blades were more usefull for ripping somebodys spine out.
Anyway, i think its realy cool that they brought more accurateness on height.

Macularius
08-13-2010, 05:36 AM
Doesn't seem "bobbleheaded" enough to me.

Predator vs. Alien
08-13-2010, 05:46 AM
Hate to say it guys, but I told you all there'd be NO Falcon, I'm surprised there isn't a carbon copied Plasma Caster on his back though:(

All in all, I was taken by surprise by the non removable face mask, but oh well(I think this is probably to avoid what happened with the AvP preds.....the same damn head/face on all oh 'em) I'm still preordering two of them.

slipknotpredator
08-13-2010, 05:57 AM
Maybe im crazy but i prefer a non removable mask instead of a Berserker repaint face.

Makes Berserker even more unique.

I think it looks great, but come on! GIVE US THE FALCON!

pred4life
08-13-2010, 06:02 AM
What a ____ing joke, non removable mask no falcon, jeez come on they could of easily repainted the berserker head, so that more or less means that tracker will be the same.____ing shame on you Hot toys, this is a real let down. I would of liked the option of mask on or off, to me non of this makes sense, why no falcon though i just don't get it, is it a license issue or something else, i mean they must have enough pics and references to go on to make one.

Agen
08-13-2010, 06:05 AM
"I want my bird"

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1853/mickeyrourkeironman2600.jpg

Predator vs. Alien
08-13-2010, 06:15 AM
Love the dread coloring/pattern

I know! It's really awesome. Reminds me of the P2 Elder's alittle bit

PredatorFreak13
08-13-2010, 06:15 AM
Unless this is significantly cheaper than berserker I won't be getting it. What a huge disappointment. :(

Deeznutz6
08-13-2010, 06:17 AM
Hmmmm, Price will dictate if I buy this right away.

I like a boat load of accessories and this seems to be bare bones :(

Predator vs. Alien
08-13-2010, 06:20 AM
Maybe they're hiding something.........Ya know, to build up hype??:lol

I sense the first ever Hot Toys Predators Accessory Bundle Pack, in the near future

Empir3
08-13-2010, 06:20 AM
Kind surprised by the lack of pictures almost thought it was more of a teaser. And im really shocked about the no detachable mask. I really hope he wont be as expensive as berserker i still want him and i think his design was the best in the movie so i will get it. Hopefully sideshow will do the falcon for us

Biojex
08-13-2010, 06:22 AM
"I want my bird"

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1853/mickeyrourkeironman2600.jpg

:tap

Ahem....get your own character persona.

:lol

Empir3
08-13-2010, 06:26 AM
No, no its not.

Agree keep it the size it is proportions FTW


And seeing the extra pics the dreads look amazing i hope they come out that nice in production

RapZiLLa54
08-13-2010, 06:27 AM
Great looking figure can't wait to add him to the collection. I wonder if the SS EX will come with the falcon. That really is the only piece thats missing.

As for the undetached mask, you never see it in the film so I don't care because I never planned on displaying him with his mask off.

But Falcon, please.

Crimsonbob
08-13-2010, 06:33 AM
The Falcon would make up for the non mask removal issue, for me anyway.

fawk3s
08-13-2010, 06:34 AM
Yeh, maybe if enough of us whined they'd give us the damn falcon !

Predator vs. Alien
08-13-2010, 06:36 AM
I don't think Falconer will be selling very well......so many people are already turned off by the Non-removable Bio, but them NOT putting the Falcon in there should be considered a crime.

Because of this, we may NOT see Tracker...........

Eamon
08-13-2010, 06:41 AM
where can I see this pics of this falcon that you guys are talking about. For the live of me I cannot remember what they look like or if they were in the movie.

fawk3s
08-13-2010, 06:43 AM
Watch the international trailer. Should be seen there. Its the little bird tracker thing, which flied over their heads in the forest and when they fell into the water.
Yes, it was in the movie only for seconds, but so was the goddamn Falconer predator. And if you dont give him the falcon then goddamn you cant call it Falconer predator.

Biojex
08-13-2010, 06:43 AM
where can I see this pics of this falcon that you guys are talking about. For the live of me I cannot remember what they look like or if they were in the movie.

I will look for a pic. but the Falcon was that robotic thing that flew over the Prey while they were in the water

Eamon
08-13-2010, 06:45 AM
Coolness guys!

Crimsonbob
08-13-2010, 06:45 AM
Here's the Neca version with it on his arm.

http://www.thehunterslair.com/lofiversion/index.php/t19185.html

Biojex
08-13-2010, 06:47 AM
Here's the Neca version with it on his arm.

http://www.thehunterslair.com/lofiversion/index.php/t19185.html

That's actually not what it looks like though. That's just a piece off a transformer I think.

RapZiLLa54
08-13-2010, 06:49 AM
It never landed on his arm, why isn't it on his shoulder?

Crimsonbob
08-13-2010, 06:49 AM
Yeah i was gonna say it looks different from that but i forgot lol. It does look more birdlike and not a triangle.

(edit) found some piccies, and you dont see it for long in the film anyway.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100720041033/avp/images/f/fd/Falconerfullview.jpg
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100720041429/avp/images/8/89/The_falcon.jpg

Original post: http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Predator_Falcon

draekus
08-13-2010, 06:57 AM
This is really going to come down to the price for me. If its SIGNIFICANTLY lower than berserker, then I might go for it.

But a nondetachable mask...wow, I hope that was due to a licensing issue and not a decision made by Hot Toys to cut corners. I don't care if you never see his face in the movie, this is a high-end 1/6th figure with accessories. Mask should be removable based on implication alone. (I believe it is clearly implied that the Falconer can remove his mask in the movie even if he does not. After all, the Berserker removes his mask, and all previous incarnations of predators have been able to remove their masks.)

mt24
08-13-2010, 06:57 AM
Seriously, they need to give him the falcon.

viruz777
08-13-2010, 07:02 AM
This is really going to come down to the price for me. If its SIGNIFICANTLY lower than berserker, then I might go for it.

But a nondetachable mask...wow, I hope that was due to a licensing issue and not a decision made by Hot Toys to cut corners. I don't care if you never see his face in the movie, this is a high-end 1/6th figure with accessories. Mask should be removable based on implication alone. (I believe it is clearly implied that the Falconer can remove his mask in the movie even if he does not. After all, the Berserker removes his mask, and all previous incarnations of predators have been able to remove their masks.)

I second you draekus. I probably WOULD get it depending on the price gap between him and the berserker.

Also, what are the odds of them remaking the classic predator from the Predators movie and what would they change?

Eamon
08-13-2010, 07:06 AM
Oh yeah, I had completely forgotten about that.

Well as we ain't getting a face on the Predator, I think we should get the Falcon then. It a feature in the movie just like the Tusk Predator.

Though I would think he called the Falconer Predator because he does 'falconry' which is just with a sport with birds of prey in general. As apposed to because he has a falcon.

klocket
08-13-2010, 07:09 AM
Yeah, he will never fit in with the rest of the Silverhawks without his falcon.

I strongly believe HT's had NO intention of ever using or sculpting his face underneath...why would they?, you don't see it in the movie at all...so why bother?

M.

draekus
08-13-2010, 07:10 AM
I second you draekus. I probably WOULD get it depending on the price gap between him and the berserker.

Also, what are the odds of them remaking the classic predator from the Predators movie and what would they change?

I say the odds are good, but if it is released it will probably be the last figure in the "Predators" set. I think they would upgrade the body (i.e. better joints on the arms/legs and a torso like the berserker/falconer). The mask would also be the battle-damaged version seen in the movie.

Gates70
08-13-2010, 07:24 AM
Yeh, maybe if enough of us whined they'd give us the damn falcon !

People whine ? On this board ? Hardly ever see that. There's no reason for HT to give us a removable mask since no one even knows what he looks like. So that whine is for nothing as usual. The falcon though is another story.

HollandX
08-13-2010, 07:26 AM
That must suck for those of you who display all the predator figures with bios off. :(

Shanester
08-13-2010, 07:28 AM
I think he looks great and I'll get him, just like most of the folks here saying they won't. The non-detachable bio is a surprise, but it was probably necessary to be able to release the figure.

I do hope they cave in on the surveilance bird unit.

GDZILLA95
08-13-2010, 07:40 AM
looks great but... "undetachable face mask with led light-up function???" no falcon??? Come on...!

So very, very disappointed hot toys.

^^:exactly:
Hot Toys, what's up with that crap???:mad:


Hate to say it guys, but I told you all there'd be NO Falcon

You had a 50/50 chance on being right or wrong, so being correct is no big acomplishment.:lol


i don't think falconer will be selling very well......so many people are already turned off by the non-removable bio, but them not putting the falcon in there should be considered a crime.
Because of this, we may NOT see tracker...........

I agree that Falconer will not be "flying" off the shelf, but I would be
surprised if HT does not make Tracker.

GDZILLA95
08-13-2010, 07:50 AM
Yeah, he will never fit in with the rest of the Silverhawks without his falcon.

I strongly believe HT's had NO intention of ever using or sculpting his face underneath...why would they?, you don't see it in the movie at all...so why bother?

M.

Chopper and Celtic never removed their bios in AVP, and their bios
were removable on the figures. So, why not make the bio
removable, other then not having the rights to do so?

fawk3s
08-13-2010, 07:54 AM
People whine ? On this board ? Hardly ever see that. There's no reason for HT to give us a removable mask since no one even knows what he looks like. So that whine is for nothing as usual. The falcon though is another story.

Eeeh... I AM talking about the falcon.

Wake
08-13-2010, 07:55 AM
The Falcon i could get as an accessory.... but the Bio being undetachable is a DEAL BREAKER. Pass for me.

drunk_leprechaun
08-13-2010, 08:04 AM
light up laser sight,

character doesnt use a ____ing cannon.

was really looking forward to what ht would do with this figures face..
not a fan of the undetachable mask.

Gates70
08-13-2010, 08:05 AM
Eeeh... I AM talking about the falcon.

So was I...just threw the other stuff in there for good measure since I read it all over the board (not specifically you).

Biojex
08-13-2010, 08:09 AM
Out of curiosity. How many of you would actually display it with the mask off? Or is this some sort of entitlement thing? :dunno

draekus
08-13-2010, 08:17 AM
People whine ? On this board ? Hardly ever see that. There's no reason for HT to give us a removable mask since no one even knows what he looks like. So that whine is for nothing as usual. The falcon though is another story.

I understand your logic/opinion. However, if we use that logic, than none of the armor should be removable either since we never see the skin on his thighs/chest under the thigh/chest armor, right? The same can be said for any HT 12" scale figure with clothing/armor accessory. Why are Dutch's pants removable and not sculpted? (Please no wise cracks :) ) Why are all layers of HT Bank Robber Joker's clothes removable? The reason: because the more realistic/life-like and the more detailed the product is, the more high-end it is. Even if the skin/clothes under a specific piece of armor/clothing is not seen on-screen, it doesn't mean HT shouldn't reproduce it in their figures. (After all, they've done a good job of it so far.)

Having said that, certain non-removable pieces of armor/clothing do not concern me. Such as boots/shoes/predator sandals or hand gloves. A mask is entirely different story.

As far as what the Falconer's face would look like. I think its safe to imagine that could be the same sculpt as berserker with a paint job that matches the colors on falconer's body.

draekus
08-13-2010, 08:28 AM
Out of curiosity. How many of you would actually display it with the mask off? Or is this some sort of entitlement thing? :dunno

I usually display them both ways. Every now and then I'll take the mask off on or put it back on.

fawk3s
08-13-2010, 08:31 AM
Out of curiosity. How many of you would actually display it with the mask off? Or is this some sort of entitlement thing? :dunno

I just want the mask separatedly.

drunk_leprechaun
08-13-2010, 08:32 AM
I understand your logic/opinion. However, if we use that logic, than none of the armor should be removable either since we never see the skin on his thighs/chest under the thigh/chest armor, right? The same can be said for any HT 12" scale figure with clothing/armor accessory. Why are Dutch's pants removable and not sculpted? (Please no wise cracks :) ) Why are all layers of HT Bank Robber Joker's clothes removable? The reason: because the more realistic/life-like and the more detailed the product is, the more high-end it is. Even if the skin/clothes under a specific piece of armor/clothing is not seen on-screen, it doesn't mean HT shouldn't reproduce it in their figures. (After all, they've done a good job of it so far.)

Having said that, certain non-removable pieces of armor/clothing do not concern me. Such as boots/shoes/predator sandals or hand gloves. A mask is entirely different story.

As far as what the Falconer's face would look like. I think its safe to imagine that could be the same sculpt as berserker with a paint job that matches the colors on falconer's body.

:exactly:on the ____ing spot mate!

Calcifer
08-13-2010, 08:36 AM
There is a god like element in removing a preds bio ..if you tried it on a living pred,you would be killed..i'm just saying..
So the lack of that option is really annoying.

draekus
08-13-2010, 08:39 AM
:exactly:on the ____ing spot mate!

:bow Thank you!

bagelsncheesey
08-13-2010, 09:03 AM
mine mine mine :)

ironwez20
08-13-2010, 09:08 AM
does his mask come off ?

Biojex
08-13-2010, 09:08 AM
does his mask come off ?

no........

Crimsonbob
08-13-2010, 09:09 AM
No :gah: :panic:

slipknotpredator
08-13-2010, 09:13 AM
Who needs a face when you have that badass mask :D

Blade3327
08-13-2010, 09:14 AM
Undetachable face mask? Well, I'm going to say what we're all thinking. Pu**ies... would it kill them to improvise a little? Certainly hasn't stopped them from doing so on every other release. All I can take solace in is that nifty 1/6 Predator skull... that and the possibility of getting a Falcon SSC Exclusive, even though WE REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.


Wait a tic... why don't we just complain to HT? Falconer's still in the prototype phase. Remember how many changes they made to Berserker since the first spec shots? For what it's worth, we should all just send e-mails to HT begging them to at least make the mask removable... and possibly, to give us a Falcon.

Spiderwebb13
08-13-2010, 09:18 AM
The Falconer looks amazing. I am disappointed that the mask cant be removed and that there's no falcon. Also why does the mask have a light up LED function if theres no plasma caster?

Audi
08-13-2010, 09:25 AM
Undetachable face mask? Well, I'm going to say what we're all thinking. Pu**ies... would it kill them to improvise a little? Certainly hasn't stopped them from doing so on every other release. All I can take solace in is that nifty 1/6 Predator skull... that and the possibility of getting a Falcon SSC Exclusive, even though WE REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.


Wait a tic... why don't we just complain to HT? Falconer's still in the prototype phase. Remember how many changes they made to Berserker since the first spec shots? For what it's worth, we should all just send e-mails to HT begging them to at least make the mask removable... and possibly, to give us a Falcon.

I doubt it would work man. The prototype berserker pictures were never on the offical Hottoys page, but this is offical now. No changes can be done. I hope i'm wrong though.

noisetrigger
08-13-2010, 09:29 AM
Like someone mentioned in the Royce thread, most likely the reason for it not being removable is because the movie studios want it kept that way.

Licensing is a very complicated area to go into and most of the time, when HT make some decisions that might seem really strange to us, it might actually be out of their control.

One popular example is ETB Mr Bean. That figure was delayed because Rowan Atkinson wasn't happy with the first sculpt which in his opinion looks a little too old and fat. Hence ETB had to redo the sculpt with the artist requested modification, i.e younger, thinner.

You will be surprised at how often an actor will want their figure to actually look more flattering than their real life counterpart.

Blade3327
08-13-2010, 09:29 AM
The prototype Berserker pics (the spec ones, I mean) were on the HT page from the very beginning, I think. Anyhow, I sent them an e-mail through their contact form. It's a long shot, but they've set things right in the past. I'd recommend to anyone who wanted this guy to do the same. Strength in numbers and all that good stuff.

...and they will most definitely be doing Tracker. Doesn't make any difference to me, if they handle him the same way they did here. And I care more about Falconer than him. Sigh... :gah:

Spanbauer
08-13-2010, 09:30 AM
Undetachable face mask with LED light-up function
Well, that's a unique way to solve their horribly inaccurate Predators face sculpt :o

Gates70
08-13-2010, 09:42 AM
I understand your logic/opinion. However, if we use that logic, than none of the armor should be removable either since we never see the skin on his thighs/chest under the thigh/chest armor, right? The same can be said for any HT 12" scale figure with clothing/armor accessory. Why are Dutch's pants removable and not sculpted? (Please no wise cracks :) ) Why are all layers of HT Bank Robber Joker's clothes removable? The reason: because the more realistic/life-like and the more detailed the product is, the more high-end it is. Even if the skin/clothes under a specific piece of armor/clothing is not seen on-screen, it doesn't mean HT shouldn't reproduce it in their figures. (After all, they've done a good job of it so far.)

Having said that, certain non-removable pieces of armor/clothing do not concern me. Such as boots/shoes/predator sandals or hand gloves. A mask is entirely different story.

As far as what the Falconer's face would look like. I think its safe to imagine that could be the same sculpt as berserker with a paint job that matches the colors on falconer's body.

Apples and oranges. Removing a piece of armour on his leg will reveal a leg which looks like, well, a leg. Same goes for an arm or whatever. You're talking about a face that has unique characteristics (sp?). In this case, the face was never shown. For all we know it could be exactly the same as the rest or something else. They never showed it.

mr.thrifty
08-13-2010, 10:21 AM
I see the FIASCO is off to a good start....:lol

I bet the Bio re-casters are really pissed...

Deeznutz6
08-13-2010, 10:23 AM
I see the FIASCO is off to a good start....:lol

I bet the Bio re-casters are really pissed...

Harch critics or what, you think they stole somoenes baby :lol

Elder_Predator2
08-13-2010, 10:27 AM
I see the FIASCO is off to a good start....:lol

I bet the Bio re-casters are really pissed...

I am not pissed about that but I do like removeable bios.

mr.thrifty
08-13-2010, 10:27 AM
Harch critics or what, you think they stole somoenes baby :lol

I'm disappointed also but what are you gonna do. :dunno

Makes for good reading though......... keep it up folks... Give HT Hell..:devil

Blade3327
08-13-2010, 10:30 AM
I swear, if this guy costs $195 I'm gonna be so pissed... either that, or I'll order off Alter or Razor's Edge -- just like I did with Berserker :D. But they had better fix this thing.

abake
08-13-2010, 10:31 AM
This one looks mighty fine.
Damn, looks like I'm going to be ordering more than one pred...

Personally, I don't mind the fact that the mask in non-removable.

Elder_Predator2
08-13-2010, 10:33 AM
I still think that the removeable bios were really awesome. They were some of the biggest selling points for me on the AVP Predators.

Spiderwebb13
08-13-2010, 10:53 AM
The removable bio would be cool, but oh well. I just wish it came with the freakin falcon.

viruz777
08-13-2010, 10:55 AM
I say the odds are good, but if it is released it will probably be the last figure in the "Predators" set. I think they would upgrade the body (i.e. better joints on the arms/legs and a torso like the berserker/falconer). The mask would also be the battle-damaged version seen in the movie.

How soon do you roughly think they will release that classic pred? I was just wondering since I'm planning to space out my finances to make the appropriate purchases in the meantime :)

Also, what was wrong with the body from the original predator that they'd upgrade it to begin with? Will it ONLY be a battle damaged mask and no odds of a clean/non-battle damaged one?

PS : Sorry for posting an unrelated question in this thread but I'd rather get this question answered here rather than start a whole new thread about it.

Diab0lus
08-13-2010, 11:08 AM
Falcon may be an SS Exclusive accessory...no?

GDZILLA95
08-13-2010, 11:26 AM
Out of curiosity. How many of you would actually display it with the mask off? Or is this some sort of entitlement thing? :dunno


I like to pose them without the bios. I have 14 HT Preds on display, and only 3 of them are wearing their bios.

Spanbauer
08-13-2010, 11:30 AM
$130 and I'll bite. Throw in the falcon and he'd be worth $140.

draekus
08-13-2010, 11:30 AM
How soon do you roughly think they will release that classic pred? I was just wondering since I'm planning to space out my finances to make the appropriate purchases in the meantime :)

Also, what was wrong with the body from the original predator that they'd upgrade it to begin with? Will it ONLY be a battle damaged mask and no odds of a clean/non-battle damaged one?

PS : Sorry for posting an unrelated question in this thread but I'd rather get this question answered here rather than start a whole new thread about it.

No idea really. HT's announcements and release dates are hard to pin down. And we're not even sure they will release another Classic pred. If they were to release one I'd say it probably be some time summer next year. But again that's just a "shot in the dark" estimate as there's no guarantee they will make another one.

Nothing's "wrong" with the original P1 pred. I love that figure. But nothing's perfect and it can always be improved upon. For one, I prefer the elbow joints on the Berserker/Falconer pred than the ones used on the P1 pred.

bangkok_wolf
08-13-2010, 11:33 AM
I am not pissed about that but I do like removeable bios.

I'm not pissed, but rather sad :monkey2
was looking forward to all 3 of them - now that hope is gone with the wind

azurepred
08-13-2010, 11:35 AM
Maybe im crazy but i prefer a non removable mask instead of a Berserker repaint face.

Makes Berserker even more unique.

I think it looks great, but come on! GIVE US THE FALCON!

:lecture.................the price better be less than Berserker and i hope the Ex will be the Falcon, but otherwise i am happy with what they did. You guys all complain about not having a removable mask, but how many were gonna display it that way? Its a fail to not have the Falcon, but the stupd AVP Preds with the same stupid face was..........well stupid when they never removed their masks to begin with.

azurepred
08-13-2010, 11:37 AM
I like to pose them without the bios. I have 14 HT Preds on display, and only 3 of them are wearing their bios.

so you display all of the AVP ones without bios looking exactly the same facial and armor wise?

EndIessRAlN
08-13-2010, 11:39 AM
Looks good. Don't care if the Bio doesn't come off. I keep it on all my Preds anyway. But damn I wanted that Falcon! I mean that's why he's called the Falconer right? Sheesh.

HollandX
08-13-2010, 11:40 AM
Watch Tracker come with the falcon.

That's how they getcha!!

isis_x10a
08-13-2010, 11:41 AM
"I want my bird"

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1853/mickeyrourkeironman2600.jpg

Hot Toys: "Are we talking about... is it a bird back in Russia?"

:monkey1

EndIessRAlN
08-13-2010, 11:47 AM
Watch Tracker come with the falcon.

That's how they getcha!!

That's a douche move on HT if they do but nothing is impossible.

isis_x10a
08-13-2010, 11:50 AM
HT may put it by end of the day or announce it later. Same thing goes for War Machine ex-wife.

Vaako
08-13-2010, 11:57 AM
if the exclusive accessory will be the falcon this figure will be sold out in a few minutes :rotfl

Elder_Predator2
08-13-2010, 11:59 AM
Oh no another Guardian PO.

Spewer
08-13-2010, 12:02 PM
Two pack later, Falcon/UAV & Predog.

CREG Customs
08-13-2010, 12:02 PM
A simple repaint and I think everyone would be happy. sigh

EDIT: Well, not everyone. This is a predator property after all...

Crude PS mock-up...
http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27267&stc=1&d=1281726143

SANTI
08-13-2010, 12:04 PM
This is really going to come down to the price for me

Lee in MI
08-13-2010, 12:04 PM
HT may put it by end of the day or announce it later. Same thing goes for War Machine ex-wife.

yeah...maybe it just wasn't ready for the official pics. They did update the War Machine armory....waaaayyyyyy after the pics :huh

Spewer
08-13-2010, 12:09 PM
http://i34.tinypic.com/2m7f4sn.jpg

azurepred
08-13-2010, 12:12 PM
http://i34.tinypic.com/2m7f4sn.jpg

does he glow in the dark too?

draekus
08-13-2010, 12:16 PM
I know its highly unlikely, but what would be interesting is if the figure actually did have a face. However it was unpainted and the mask was glued on to it. In other words, a berserker closed-mouth sculpt unpainted with a glued-on mask. This would make it easier for the customizer to remove the mask and paint the sculpt underneath.

But anyways, HT probably just created a separate mold of the Falconer mask on the berserker head as one solid piece.

isis_x10a
08-13-2010, 12:17 PM
Beserker after beaten by Royce with blood all over his face.

draekus
08-13-2010, 12:17 PM
A simple repaint and I think everyone would be happy. sigh

EDIT: Well, not everyone. This is a predator property after all...

Crude PS mock-up...
http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27267&stc=1&d=1281726143

That would work for me.

isis_x10a
08-13-2010, 12:21 PM
Local store in my area sell it for 180USD. That's almost the same price as Berserker.

azurepred
08-13-2010, 12:31 PM
it looks like they added the Pred skull to make up for the undetachable head :dunno. Berserker should have came with the skull imo

hairlesswookiee
08-13-2010, 12:34 PM
Yeah a basic repaint of Beserker's face would suffice. Nothing drastic since we don't really know what he looks like and can only go off of Beserker. Sucks, but I guess it makes sense for Hot Toys. If they went too crazy with the repaint people would probably give them crap because it might not be what he actually looks like.

Kovach
08-13-2010, 12:36 PM
I will get it just because I don't want to pay crazy prices later on if I decided to pass now.

I can always sell it later if I'm not satisfied.

The undetachable bios doesn't really affect me since I rarely display my Preds without their bios (except for P1), but I can totally understand people being dissapointed. You add to that the lack of a Falcon and you got a recipe for pissed off fans.

nobunaga
08-13-2010, 12:44 PM
Guys if they don't have the rights for a falconer face we can cry till death but they can't do anything. The falcon must be' there ! No excuses no reasons!!! Put the falcon ht!! Don't think they Are still working on it, they have put the falcon in the specs. Hope they will male a pred dog/ falcon figure. I bet tracker will be' out without dog

draekus
08-13-2010, 12:58 PM
Guys if they don't have the rights for a falconer face we can cry till death but they can't do anything. The falcon must be' there ! No excuses no reasons!!! Put the falcon ht!! Don't think they Are still working on it, they have put the falcon in the specs. Hope they will male a pred dog/ falcon figure. I bet tracker will be' out without dog

True, but they could find some way around the face-license issue. Like I mentioned before, glue the mask onto a unpainted mask. This should cover any licensing requirements and allow for people to remove the glue and paint the face.

And yes....GIVE US THE FALCON!!!!

BlueLeader
08-13-2010, 01:01 PM
He CAN"T be the Falconer without the Falcon...what's up HT??? Still hoping it will show up as an exclusive, either way I am buying him.

Predator vs. Alien
08-13-2010, 01:15 PM
Can't we just get a spare Berserker head, have Figure Master Les, or another bad ass painter, paint it to match the Falconer??
(that's what I'm doing with my 3rd Berserker Pred, if anyone wants spare parts let me know. Or I may do an end battle scene with Royce(after he decapitates Berserker:lol )

draekus
08-13-2010, 01:25 PM
Can't we just get a spare Berserker head, have Figure Master Les, or another bad ass painter, paint it to match the Falconer??
(that's what I'm doing with my 3rd Berserker Pred, if anyone wants spare parts let me know. Or I may do an end battle scene with Royce(after he decapitates Berserker:lol )

Yeah pretty much. You still wont have the separate Falconer mask on its own, but that's not a big deal since you'd have the head with the mask permanently attached. I just hope the cost of Falconer is low enough to allow for the added cost of getting an extra Berserker head for repainting.

Predator vs. Alien
08-13-2010, 01:30 PM
I WANT the cost of Falconer to be around $150 or $160(when you think about it, that's all this seems worth to me)

But he'll most likely be the same a Berserker......

GDZILLA95
08-13-2010, 01:35 PM
so you display all of the AVP ones without bios looking exactly the same facial and armor wise?

The only AVP Preds that I have are an Elder, another Elder that was magically turned into Scar by SilentSurfer, and an Anceint that has a custom head painted by Predaxe.
Elder's mask won't go on, and I don't want to cover the custom heads. They are too Bad Arse to not be maskless.:)

Lord Freezer
08-13-2010, 01:43 PM
Better lengthen hair.

drunk_leprechaun
08-13-2010, 01:48 PM
It's up for preorder at bbts,same price as berserker. HT can ____ themselves if they think half assed pred figure is worth $190.
I'd have paid that if the damn thing atleast had a face.

Fives
08-13-2010, 01:50 PM
I WANT the cost of Falconer to be around $150 or $160(when you think about it, that's all this seems worth to me)

But he'll most likely be the same a Berserker......

i agree that the price should be around 150-160 bucks for what we're getting, that seems just about right. i still like it though and am going to get it. i display my preds with their bios on so no whining here but it would have been cool to see what Falconer looks like without his bio.

Spanbauer
08-13-2010, 02:11 PM
I WANT the cost of Falconer to be around $150 or $160(when you think about it, that's all this seems worth to me)

But he'll most likely be the same a Berserker......
No, seriously. $130 is all he's worth. The guy has almost no accessories, no laser, no mandibles and no face to paint or mold. He sets a record for the fewest pieces ever (unless you count individual hairs), and the body is recycled from Berzerker.

toylion
08-13-2010, 02:16 PM
Out of curiosity. How many of you would actually display it with the mask off? Or is this some sort of entitlement thing? :dunno

I have no intention of display any of my female figure in their panties, but I still want them to have them :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

toylion
08-13-2010, 02:19 PM
Can't we just get a spare Berserker head, have Figure Master Les, or another bad ass painter, paint it to match the Falconer??
(that's what I'm doing with my 3rd Berserker Pred, if anyone wants spare parts let me know. Or I may do an end battle scene with Royce(after he decapitates Berserker:lol )

Sure great idea, let's all spend an additional $100.00 just because HT gave us the shaft. And maybe someone can sculpt a Falcon too and we can spend even more on this piece of #@%&

Darth_Fatso
08-13-2010, 03:10 PM
Bios looks to small be still awesome nonetheless. Easy buy.

drunk_leprechaun
08-13-2010, 03:17 PM
ok its up for order on e bay can several sites. prices range from $179 - $189.

nsmpls
08-13-2010, 03:17 PM
its alright.
but this is the first hot toys predator that does not have a removable mask correct ?

drunk_leprechaun
08-13-2010, 03:19 PM
its alright.
but this is the first hot toys predator that does not have a removable mask correct ?

yes, hopefully the last:gah:

Sabres21768
08-13-2010, 03:43 PM
yes, hopefully the last:gah:

If the Falconer's mask is not removable...you can be guaranteed that the Tracker's mask (if he gets made) will not be removable.

ironwez20
08-13-2010, 04:10 PM
Is this the first predator without a removable mask ? They made other predators with removable mask that didnt take thier mask off in the movies.

The Mike
08-13-2010, 04:11 PM
The Falcon could still come with, the original WM didn't come with the "Ex Wife" as an accessory yet the final version will.

Che-Che2837
08-13-2010, 04:32 PM
yeah you never know, it might come out with the falcon closer to the release date they just might throw it in or as a exclusive like others have said.

DerMann
08-13-2010, 04:33 PM
Cool figure, but no SALE. I'd end up ruining it by trying to pry off the mask to see what was under it. Some of the photos do hint that there could be a lot of detail hiding behind the mask.

Predator vs. Alien
08-13-2010, 04:38 PM
It's pretty much a well, duh thing. If Falconer has a Non- removable mask, Tracker will too

Calcifer
08-13-2010, 04:38 PM
This video is sure to annoy a few people ..it annoyed me thats for sure..i like derby but not so much his thoughts on this one..
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senbi575
08-13-2010, 04:59 PM
I think this is a great figure and it has a lot going for it, but my biggest problem is that when I think of Hot Toys I think of them as the lamborghini of 1/6th scale figures, with all the options and all the details. At this price point the small details is what I am dishing out the dollars for. This figure has a lot going for it, and is very detailed, but the little things are missing, and these little things are where Hot Toys historically did a fantastic job delivering on.

Dinosoar Daz
08-13-2010, 05:25 PM
This video is sure to annoy a few people ..it annoyed me thats for sure..i like derby but not so much his thoughts on this one..
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:slap Yep! His opinion is the only one that counts, and I love the line of thought behind his comment that because the Neca bio is none removable, the HT version would be also.

Blade3327
08-13-2010, 05:55 PM
Is this the first predator without a removable mask ? They made other predators with removable mask that didnt take thier mask off in the movies.

There's literally an answer to this three posts above yours ;).





This video is sure to annoy a few people ..it annoyed me thats for sure..i like derby but not so much his thoughts on this one..
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In response to the video posted, right, here's my thought, right? Did the masks come off of Chopper and Celtic? Yes, yes they did. Right? So his argument's shot, right? :slap

And I don't get why he's comparing HT to NECA in order to make us feel better about buying the new Falconer. It's like he's telling us not to complain because the HT figure anyway comes with more stuff than the NECA version. Well... duh. That applies to pretty much every HT figure out there. Falcon and seperate bio are a must IMHO. No sugar-coating it and no comparing will change that for me.

Crimsonbob
08-13-2010, 06:32 PM
Stop comparing Neca to Hot toys :gah:

m4rc3low
08-13-2010, 08:26 PM
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mr.thrifty
08-13-2010, 08:31 PM
Stop comparing Neca to Hot toys :gah:

:lol:lol:lol

mosaicsquare
08-13-2010, 08:39 PM
No removable Bio Mask? NO PROBLEM! Still picking him up

ezewok
08-13-2010, 09:00 PM
is everyone missing the small print " not final product"?

Calcifer
08-13-2010, 09:02 PM
is everyone missing the small print " not final product"?

..ya but its us kicking up a fuss that will hopefully have them change this to the final product ..a better one.

Elder_Predator2
08-13-2010, 09:06 PM
HT has really dropped the ball this time....

ezewok
08-13-2010, 09:14 PM
..ya but its us kicking up a fuss that will hopefully have them change this to the final product ..a better one.

the power of positive thinking .:pray:

toylion
08-13-2010, 09:58 PM
is everyone missing the small print " not final product"?

Did you miss this print?

- Undetachable face mask with LED light-up function

isis_x10a
08-13-2010, 10:10 PM
It seems lots of people miss lots of things today.

A bit off topic,
Classic Predator look exactly the same as Predator 1 right? Will HT make a new one or use old P1 cast?

mosaicsquare
08-13-2010, 10:10 PM
i dont think ht will make classic... just like they didnt release the t-800 endo when salvation came out

toylion
08-13-2010, 10:13 PM
It seems lots of people miss lots of things today.

A bit off topic,
Classic Predator look exactly the same as Predator 1 right? Will HT make a new one or use old P1 cast?

They said there would be a New Body for the Classic.

Blade3327
08-13-2010, 10:14 PM
Someone translated a figure article that stated HT will make Classic with the updated body. Dunno if it's true, but there it is...

Darth_Fatso
08-13-2010, 10:18 PM
i dont think ht will make classic... just like they didnt release the t-800 endo when salvation came out

I think they will but at the same time, IF I can find one under $400 shipped in a few months, I may pick up a P1 just in case.

karamazov80
08-13-2010, 10:37 PM
Hot Toys really skimped out on the accessories and options with this figure. Two sets of hands, non-removable mask, a wacky alien skull, a stand, and a couple knives? This is really unlike them. I'm glad that I don't have any interest in these new Predators, or I might be a bit miffed.

I think they will but at the same time, IF I can find one under $400 shipped in a few months, I may pick up a P1 just in case.
If you are willing to pay $400, I'm sure someone will be willing to sell. That's a ridiculous price!

Darth_Fatso
08-13-2010, 10:54 PM
Hot Toys really skimped out on the accessories and options with this figure. Two sets of hands, non-removable mask, a wacky alien skull, a stand, and a couple knives? This is really unlike them. I'm glad that I don't have any interest in these new Predators, or I might be a bit miffed.

If you are willing to pay $400, I'm sure someone will be willing to sell. That's a ridiculous price!

That's why I said under $400.

karamazov80
08-13-2010, 10:56 PM
Implication being that you would pay something on the upper end of that range. . .seems that eBay prices are floating around $350 at the moment.

Darth_Fatso
08-13-2010, 11:03 PM
Implication being that you would pay something on the upper end of that range. . .seems that eBay prices are floating around $350 at the moment.

I've only seen a few on ebay for $350 lately and most were in Asia and wanted $40-$50 for S&H. Either way I can't afford $350 for a figure atm anyways. I'm hoping to maybe have some extra money saved up in a few month to get him.

toylion
08-13-2010, 11:06 PM
I've only seen a few on ebay for $350 lately and most were in Asia and wanted $40-$50 for S&H. Either way I can't afford $350 for a figure atm anyways. I'm hoping to maybe have some extra money saved up in a few month to get him.

Just wait for the Classic.

Darth_Fatso
08-13-2010, 11:11 PM
I'm impatiant! I need a P1 ASAP!!! :lol Seriously though, if Classic has an improved and hopefully taller body, I still doubt he'll have the bone necklace and tricept armor plate so I could just take thos off the P1 and put them on Classic and display him as P1 and display P1 as Classic if that makes sense.

toylion
08-13-2010, 11:28 PM
I'm impatiant! I need a P1 ASAP!!! :lol Seriously though, if Classic has an improved and hopefully taller body, I still doubt he'll have the bone necklace and tricept armor plate so I could just take thos off the P1 and put them on Classic and display him as P1 and display P1 as Classic if that makes sense.

Yes it does, lol. The Classic in Predators didn't have the body stocking either I believe. But you can still find those on Ebay.

Darth_Fatso
08-13-2010, 11:39 PM
If you mean the fishnet stockings, Classic wore that.
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu4/mrchowderhead86/3535399rt00874r131ef42c.jpg
The only differences I see are that Classic is missing the bone trophies and armor plate on his (picture) left tricept and is about 9" shorter than the original P1.

toylion
08-13-2010, 11:56 PM
If you mean the fishnet stockings, Classic wore that.
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu4/mrchowderhead86/3535399rt00874r131ef42c.jpg
The only differences I see are that Classic is missing the bone trophies and armor plate on his (picture) left tricept and is about 9" shorter than the original P1.

Cool, guess I was confusing it with Berserker.

Blade3327
08-14-2010, 12:00 AM
These differences between Classic and P1 are so small and so subtle, that they might as well have just used P1. Then again, that's worse news for those who missed out the original HT release ;).

iampoch
08-14-2010, 12:37 AM
Wow! I didn't realize how subtle the differences are between P1 and Classic! Would still get one if they plan to release Classic. That way, I'll have the original displayed with the biomaks on, and Classic with the mask off :)

DinoLast
08-14-2010, 02:16 AM
Maybe Hot Toys plan to release the Falcon and the Dog together :dunno

toylion
08-14-2010, 02:36 AM
Maybe Hot Toys plan to release the Falcon and the Dog together :dunno

Yeah they are, when :pigfly:

DinoLast
08-14-2010, 03:55 AM
Yeah they are, when :pigfly:

It's just an idea I threw out there. Chill your boots man

toylion
08-14-2010, 03:58 AM
It's just an idea I threw out there. Chill your boots man

Sorry dude, didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch. Was just a joke, ha ha.

DinoLast
08-14-2010, 03:59 AM
Sorry dude, didn't mean to get your panties in a bunch. Was just a joke, ha ha.

I think it was you, not me that had the panties in a bunch

toylion
08-14-2010, 04:01 AM
I think it was you, not me that had the panties in a bunch

Impossible, I go commando :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

And I real do hope they make the Falcon and the Dog. Maybe then I'll change my mind and get these.

DinoLast
08-14-2010, 04:04 AM
In fact I have this to say about the whole Predator thing in general.
Why do some people get so upset over anything Predator related that is not to their taste?

DinoLast
08-14-2010, 04:05 AM
Impossible, I go commando :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

And I real do hope they make the Falcon and the Dog. Maybe then I'll change my mind and get these.

:rotfl:rotfl

toylion
08-14-2010, 04:07 AM
In fact I have this to say about the whole Predator thing in general.
Why do some people get so upset over anything Predator related that is not to their taste?

I had high hopes for these figure. I liked this Movie. In fact I just got Predator Dutch yesterday for $170.00 shipped. Can't wait for the Classic. Have Berserker on PO and will also PO Royce. Just disappointed Ht didn't include the Falcon for this price.

toylion
08-14-2010, 04:10 AM
:rotfl:rotfl

Glad I could make you laugh, I meant it when I said I was just kidding. I just like using this :pigfly:. I think it's funny.

fosing
08-14-2010, 05:38 AM
Glad I could make you laugh, I meant it when I said I was just kidding. I just like using this :pigfly:. I think it's funny.

ever heard of swine flew?:lol

Biojex
08-14-2010, 05:44 AM
ever heard of swine flew?:lol

BADUM CHSH!

toyrewind
08-14-2010, 06:43 AM
Too bad the bio mask of Falconer doesn't come off. It would make a great display having every predator mask HT released hang behind its predator owner. I hope HT would reconsider this as I noticed the price is the same as Berserker's and hasn't been lowered given it doesn't have that many accessories and an unmasked predator head.

TrackerPredator
08-14-2010, 07:49 AM
I go on Holiday for a week and I return to find this?
Not impressed. Paint job looks great and I loved the dreads but non-removable bio and lack of falcon makes me sad...

Minimodel
08-14-2010, 07:52 AM
Few strange little decisions creeping in from Hot Toys of late...

mr.fan
08-14-2010, 08:37 AM
is it me or did ht enlarge the head a little? The proto at anicom seemed to have a smaller head, but I like it better the way it is shown in the specs.

Darth_Fatso
08-14-2010, 09:06 AM
These differences between Classic and P1 are so small and so subtle, that they might as well have just used P1. Then again, that's worse news for those who missed out the original HT release ;).

I actually would have no objection if HT reused the P1 as Classic and I missed out on him.

mattjargon
08-14-2010, 09:10 AM
Gonna have to pass, and probably on tracker too as they'll probably go with non removable mask there also.

ezewok
08-14-2010, 09:22 AM
if this is in fact the final product , im not whining about the lack of accessories & bio w/the falconer , im just disappointed. ht had a chance to knock it out of the park as they usually do with the preds. now it just feels like a fart in the wind.

turtlepower73
08-14-2010, 09:22 AM
why complain.. he never showed his face in this movie...

Che-Che2837
08-14-2010, 09:24 AM
is everyone missing the small print " not final product"?

:exactly::goodpost:

mosaicsquare
08-14-2010, 09:26 AM
why complain.. he never showed his face in this movie...

q o t d

Furious1
08-14-2010, 10:55 AM
Looks great and I couldn't give two %#$% about him not having a removable mask.

Predator vs. Alien
08-14-2010, 11:08 AM
I know, I don't mind his non-removable Bio. The only thing that "kinda" irks me, is there's no Falcon(but just like other's have said, the thing was shown for like 5 sec. in the movie)

All in all, I really like this figure. I'm planning on getting 3 Berserkers 2 Falconers and 1 Royce.

Matt13
08-14-2010, 11:16 AM
Are you keeping the extras boxed or are you planning on customizing them?

Predator vs. Alien
08-14-2010, 11:24 AM
I'm gonna customize one Berserker(battle damaged) and leave one stock and keep the last one MISB. As for the Falconer, not doing anything really, keeping one MISB and the other stock. Royce I'm just keeping stock as well.

fawk3s
08-14-2010, 11:25 AM
Dont give a ____ about the mask aswell, but want the falcon damnit.

mosaicsquare
08-14-2010, 11:26 AM
gee i wonder if ht will complete the set and make tracker....

Darth_Fatso
08-14-2010, 11:29 AM
They better. I got my pitchfork and torch ready just in case they don't.

ExMem-LarjaThwei
08-14-2010, 02:06 PM
gee i wonder if ht will complete the set and make tracker....
It would be extremely stupid of them not to, since they've already made 2 of the 3 set..

Blade3327
08-14-2010, 02:07 PM
They undoubtedly will... but with a non-removable helmet. :gah:

ExMem-LarjaThwei
08-14-2010, 02:10 PM
They undoubtedly will... but with a non-removable helmet. :gah:
Deffinately. I'm praying that i can find 2 Berzerker heads on Ebay in the future, and learn how to paint them..

Darth_Fatso
08-14-2010, 02:17 PM
The non-removable bios don't bother me, it's the lack of accessories for the price that these guys are that irks me most. Yeah I understand the falcon was only in the move for severall seconds but thats not the point, most of the past Preds came with loads of accessories and while the "super" Preds didn't have many weapons in the movie, HT could have made up for that by including Falconer's falcon and Tracker's Pred hound thing. Either way though, I'll still pick up Falconer and Tracker reguardless.

Spanbauer
08-14-2010, 02:23 PM
The non-removable bios don't bother me, it's the lack of accessories for the price that these guys are that irks me most. Yeah I understand the falcon was only in the move for severall seconds but thats not the point, most of the past Preds came with loads of accessories and while the "super" Preds didn't have many weapons in the movie, HT could have made up for that by including Falconer's falcon and Tracker's Pred hound thing.
Or they could nock $60 off the price and make it fair. These guys have no accessories, extremely simple armor and the least amount of parts of any predator releases thus far. Yet prices are close to $200? Makes no sense.


Either way though, I'll still pick up Falconer and Tracker reguardless.
And that's why prices continue to go up while accessories and articulation plummet.

PredatorFreak13
08-14-2010, 02:25 PM
Or they could nock $60 off the price and make it fair. These guys have no accessories, extremely simple armor and the least amount of parts of any predator releases thus far. Yet prices are close to $200? Makes no sense.

:goodpost::goodpost::goodpost:

Darth_Fatso
08-14-2010, 02:33 PM
Or they could nock $60 off the price and make it fair. These guys have no accessories, extremely simple armor and the least amount of parts of any predator releases thus far. Yet prices are close to $200? Makes no sense.

That would be fair and preferred if they're not gonna make more accessories.


And that's why prices continue to go up while accessories and articulation plummet.

Well I really don't have many other options other than not to buy it but I want the figure so... Alas though you are right.

Spiderwebb13
08-14-2010, 03:55 PM
Yeah hopefully Falconer and Tracker will be cheaper.