View Full Version : My Witch-king of Angmar Statue on ebay
Vonhahn
02-25-2006, 08:30 AM
Just thought I would give fellow freaks first notice that I put my Witch-king of Angmar Statue up on ebay. I know it's a shameless plug but I figured that if anyone would actually want him, they may be one of the members here. Please let me know if you have any questions. You can see the auction here...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6608587452&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
:gandalf :frodo :gimli :legolas:saruman :balrog :aragorn :ent
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 10:23 AM
Auctions like this drive me crazy. Why don't you save yourself some time by preventing a ton of questions and tell people up front that it's 'mint' or 'no chips, scratches, breaks, repairs'...ANYTHING except "it's in great shape". Great shape to you might mean "Yeah, I've only had to repair it 3 times, so it's in great shape" while to me it might mean "Piece is absolutely perfect, never seen the light of day, blah blah blah"
You say it comes with the statue and the product box only. Does that mean your just going to throw it in the mail as is? Or are you going to have it in the original brown SSW shipping box also? Even better, have the original brown shipping box and pack it inside yet another, bigger box. At this PRICE TIER, people expect to receive a nice item. Take care of them!!!
For those that say, "Well, the guy has perfect feedback." That doesn't mean YOUR going to be satisfied.
Another thing people want to usually know about are paint flaws. Take a CLOSE look at the statue and see if there is anything about the paint that you feel would even REMOTELY pi.. someone off, and be forward with it in the auction.
My wife purchased a Green Goblin SS piece for me recently where the guy says in the auction "Perfect Condition" yet when she get's the thing, there is a paint brush sized swatch of green paint going down the top of the glider wing. :banghead Guy has perfect feedback.
At least you mentioned the box had a crease. The Goblin product box, while shipped inside the brown Sideshow box, looked like it had been runover by a truck. :banghead
Another jack... this month sent me a high dollar SSW piece that was supposedly 'Factory Sealed, never opened.' I receive it, and low and behold, no quality seal, the styrofoam box is obviously MUCH brighter white where the original tape was, and there is new tape that doesn't line up anywhere NEAR where the original tape was. To top that off, there was what I call 'a minor issue' with the piece. Not worth me losing my shipping both ways, but enough to leave the guy a negative. I HATE leaving anyone a negative, first time I've had to do it. But it was not the damage, but the LIE from the seller that forced my hand to protect other buyers. :banghead Guy HAD perfect feedback.
If you truly believe your going to provide a hassle free transaction, GUARANTEE the buyer's satifaction in the auction. I LOVE seeing that. It gives me the extra sense of security I need when shelling out $1000 plus dollars of hard earned cash for an item. In fact, I would pay MORE if the seller makes a solid promise of buyer satisfaction. BTW, I don't believe 'shipping insurance' covers an item that is damaged, but the box arrived in 'undamaged' condition. So the insurer assumes the piece was damaged before packaged, or as a result of incorrect packaging, resulting in no refund. I had no recourse with the SSW item above.
Don't take this as an attack, just a few tips that help make a better transaction between you and the buyer. Be SPECIFIC. Take CLOSE UP, LARGE pics. (decent work on yours, btw). If a seller seems to be witholding info, or even if he's just being TOO general with terms, I pass on an auction everytime.
Vonhahn
02-25-2006, 10:34 AM
When I say it's in great shape that means just that. I won’t swear that it doesn’t have some dust on it anywhere but if there where any paint chips, cracks etc. I would list them like I did the crease in the box. And the auction says it comes with the box and the insert (the Styrofoam) and that's it. I am not going to list all of the possible things it doesn’t come with. It doesn’t come with the brown mailing box. It doesn’t come with a Leprechaun. What you see is what you get but If you want to ask questions or would like more photos you can always e-mail me through the auction.
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 10:50 AM
It's childish responses JUST LIKE THIS "It doesn't contain a Leprechaun" that drive me from sellers. Dust isn't a flaw, it's a fact of life. I didn't expect you to list "all the things it doesn't come with". But that brown packing box was part of the original ship group.
So, just from your response, I now expect the actual color product box to be very worn, dented, covered with labels, possibly wet if it's raining while being transported.
I just received my Doom Exclusive from Sideshow. The fedex driver brings the box in to my office (workplace) for me to sign. It was raining that day. The bottom of the box from where he had apparantly sat it on the ground was soaked. I opened the item to check it. Of course Sideshow has the good sense to package the 'product box' in plastic before they put it inside the brown shipping container to prevent it from being damaged by moisture. No problems. According to your statement, in the same situation, the Witch-King product box would be basically ruined.
I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to help you out. No need for smarta.. comments.
wetayourself
02-25-2006, 10:58 AM
is the Leprechaun 1/6 scale?
Vonhahn
02-25-2006, 11:00 AM
is the Leprechaun 1/6 scale?
I can try to track down a 1/6 scale one for you if you want :o
I'll warn you though he would have a pretty high reserve
tomandshell
02-25-2006, 11:04 AM
http://www.scaryhorrormovies.com/leprechaun.jpg
elwood49
02-25-2006, 11:04 AM
ComputerFly, please never bid on any of my auctions.:rolleyes:
You're buying it USED on EBAY! I have flawless 100% feedback, but I think you're being completely unreasonable with your demands. As long as the product box doesn't have holes in it, then it shouldn't be mentioned in the auction description, IMO. These aren't toys. The statue is what's important. The statue loses no value whatsoever with a "creased box" as you put it.
Good luck with your auction Vonhahn.
Vonhahn
02-25-2006, 11:08 AM
ComputerFly, please never bid on any of my auctions.:rolleyes:
You're buying it USED on EBAY! I have flawless 100% feedback, but I think you're being completely unreasonable with your demands. As long as the product box doesn't have holes in it, then it shouldn't be mentioned in the auction description, IMO. These aren't toys. The statue is what's important. The statue looks no value whatsoever with a "creased box" as you put it.
Good luck with your auction Vonhahn.
Thanks elwood49! Like I say in the auction, I am happy to answer questions, take more pictures and address any concerns as well as I can. (And while I didn't think to mention it in the auction, it actually does have the plastic bag around the box that it did come with. Guess I didn't understand the plastic bags importance.)
Vonhahn
02-25-2006, 11:09 AM
http://www.scaryhorrormovies.com/leprechaun.jpg
THATS AWESOME!
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 11:14 AM
Wow, I'm really that far off hunh? Is there ANYONE out there that agrees with the validity of my points?
Poll: Who out there believes that the condition of the product box has NO effect on the value of an item you are paying $1000 dollars for?
I'm not saying that everyone does, but I'm sure Vonhahn wants the most $$ he can get for this piece. I'm sure more than 50% of the buyers DO care what the product box looks like when it arrives.
I'm not demanding anything from this guy. I'm not even interested in this piece. I was just making a few suggestions since he's selling such a valuable piece. I was hoping to help him maximize his return.
The Josh
02-25-2006, 11:23 AM
As long as it's properly packaged and the statue makes it to me I don't care if the brown box is the one SS sent it in or not. I just want what I buy to make it to me properly packaged.
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 11:26 AM
As long as it's properly packaged and the statue makes it to me I don't care if the brown box is the one SS sent it in or not. I just want what I buy to make it to me properly packaged.
I'm not talking about the brown packing box. I'm talking about the COLOR PRODUCT BOX.
Maybe we should ask this guy:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Star-Wars-AFA-90-12-Back-Jawa-MOC-WOW_W0QQitemZ6038076980QQcategoryZ50271QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
if the 'packaging' matters. After all, it's just the FIGURE that matters, right???
The Josh
02-25-2006, 11:29 AM
That's a toy and I don't care how much they go for you can't compare them to say the Original Rog, WK, CT, etc from the SSW line.
I've gotten a few of the product boxes from SS that have had dents in them so I don't care if they have a few dents. As long as the piece is fine and properly packaged I'm cool with it.
WetaWork
02-25-2006, 11:34 AM
Wow, I'm really that far off hunh? Is there ANYONE out there that agrees with the validity of my points?
Poll: Who out there believes that the condition of the product box has NO effect on the value of an item you are paying $1000 dollars for?
I'm not saying that everyone does, but I'm sure Vonhahn wants the most $$ he can get for this piece. I'm sure more than 50% of the buyers DO care what the product box looks like when it arrives.
I'm not demanding anything from this guy. I'm not even interested in this piece. I was just making a few suggestions since he's selling such a valuable piece. I was hoping to help him maximize his return.
ComputerFly,
I'm definitely in your camp on this one. I took your suggestions as just that, valid suggestions that will help reduce the number of inquiries, increase buyer confidence, and increase the final sale value.
Personally, when I'm selling a $1,000+ collectible I'll go to great pains to describe in detail the condition of the item, the condition packaging and exactly how the item will be packaged.
On the other hand if I'm selling a $50 bust, I may not go to such great lengths to describe every minute detail. As a matter of fact, I may just use the product photos from the manufacturer rather then take actual pictures.
I find it obsurd at how obscure some of the ebay listings are for high dollar items. Half the time, if the information your looking for is not being provided then the seller maybe hiding something or worse yet, it may be a total scam.
BTW, I consider Vonhahn's auction listing a bit light in details but certainly not out of the ordinary.
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 11:35 AM
j, it may be a toy, but it's also a collectible, get it? Sideshow COLLECTIBLES. Without that card, that COLLECTIBLE isn't worth much. It's just an example. If you can't see that, then your obviously missing my point.
I'm done. Why did I even try? :confused:
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 11:38 AM
ComputerFly,
I'm definitely in your camp on this one. I took your suggestions as just that, valid suggestions that will help reduce the number of inquiries, increase buyer confidence, and increase the final sale value.
Personally, when I'm selling a $1,000+ collectible I'll go to great pains to describe in detail the condition of the item, the condition packaging and exactly how the item will be packaged.
On the other hand if I'm selling a $50 bust, I may not go to such great lengths to describe every minute detail. As a matter of fact, I may just use the product photos from the manufacturer rather then take actual pictures.
I find it obsurd at how obscure some of the ebay listings are for high dollar items. Half the time, if the information your looking for is not being provided then the seller maybe hiding something or worse yet, it may be a total scam.
BTW, I consider Vonhahn's auction listing a bit light in details but certainly not out of the ordinary.
Thanks man. You completely understand what I'm trying to convey. Hopefully you stated it eloquently enough for others to understand. Maybe I was too brash. I'll have to work on that. :D
CaptainCaveTroll
02-25-2006, 11:39 AM
ComputerFly,
I would say that the words 'great shape' are a bit vague. 'Mint condition' would be a better phrase (if it applies).
As for the brown box, that doesn't bother me in the slighltest. If a seller has taken the time to point out that there is a crease in the box, that suggests to me that there are no flaws with the statue although I would email the seller to ask them in advance.
I would guess that your points are perhaps being influenced by experiences with other, less honest, ebayers. I think this seller is genuine. He has taken some close-up pics, has been reasonably OK in the description (apart from the point mentioned above), has offered to answer other questions and provide further photos.
WetaWork
02-25-2006, 11:52 AM
I would say that the words 'great shape' are a bit vague. 'Mint condition' would be a better phrase (if it applies).
Exactly!!! Too much subjectivity comes into play when using the term "great shape" regardless of whether or not the seller has perfect feedback. It just raises too many flags in my mind.
Heck, when I'm spending that much money even the word MINT is not enough to satisfy me. I want the seller to specifically state that there are no cracks, chips, repairs or defects of any kind. I would also like a brief mention of the overall paint job.
All that may go out the window if it's a newly listed auction of an original balrog from a seller with great feedback and a buy it now of the MSRP. In that case, I'll buy now and ask questions later. :D
The Josh
02-25-2006, 12:14 PM
Personally, when I'm selling a $1,000+ collectible I'll go to great pains to describe in detail the condition of the item, the condition packaging and exactly how the item will be packaged.
As would I if I was the seller and would want to see that if I was a buyer at least for the item itself. I would also talk about how I will package the item as well especially on something around or more than 1k dollars. Now, as far as the condition of the prodcut box. Unless its just beat to hell then I don't care about the shape. If it has a couple of dents in it that aren't going to factor in to how my item will make it then I don't worry.
j, it may be a toy, but it's also a collectible, get it? Sideshow COLLECTIBLES. Without that card, that COLLECTIBLE isn't worth much. It's just an example. If you can't see that, then your obviously missing my point.
I'm done. Why did I even try? :confused:
Yes, it's a collectible I agree and get it.:rolleyes: Your 110% without the card being in whatever shape it's in then tht figure comes in at a totally different price. However, these SSW pieces really don't get affected by the shape of the product box. Unless it's no longer with the person then it will but I've still seen Balrogs missing the product box go for over 1500. I've never seen a balrog auction where the person had the shipping box go for under 2k since it hit that mark. I get what your trying to compare but the value of the Balrog lets say really isn't effected by the product box unless they no longer have it, but the value of that toy is effected by the condition of the card.
I would say that the words 'great shape' are a bit vague. 'Mint condition' would be a better phrase (if it applies).
I agree. You really need to list more than great shape or mint even when selling something so valuable.
elwood49
02-25-2006, 12:34 PM
I'm not talking about the brown packing box. I'm talking about the COLOR PRODUCT BOX.
Maybe we should ask this guy:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Star-Wars-AFA-90-12-Back-Jawa-MOC-WOW_W0QQitemZ6038076980QQcategoryZ50271QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
if the 'packaging' matters. After all, it's just the FIGURE that matters, right???
Correct. The statue loses/gains NO VALUE whatsoever with a mint box. Again, if the box had a hole in it or was trashed, I would mention it.
You are comparing action figures with statues, which is apples and oranges. In that case, statues would lose their value if you even took them out of the box. I would add that an opened statue is arguably more valuable than a sealed one, simply because there is such a possibility of damage.
For $1,000+, I agree that full disclosure is important. I see nothing in the Wiki auction that suggests anything other than a fair sale. I'm simply saying that I would be REAL angry if someone gave me a negative for a flawless statue that had a less than mint box.
Vonhahn
02-25-2006, 12:56 PM
The problem with saying something like "Mint in box" is that everyone have a different idea of what "mint" means. Some say it should be flawless, with no paint errors from the mfg. Others think that it should have that "new car smell". Still others say that if there has been any color fading then it's not mint. I took some suggestions and added that there are no paint chips, scratches or broken peices. That's about as detailed as I can make it and as always, I'm happy to e-mail more pictures to truley concerned bidders.
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 01:08 PM
Elwood, the statue was a Ringwraith with a broken bridle. Now I'm out $80 to return the piece (shipping both ways). The guy is OBVIOUSLY opening the pieces, despite what he said, and more than likely knew the piece had a flaw. I can live with the flaw, therefore proving I'm not 'anal' about the statue itself. What I am 'anal' about is being obviously lied to. And for that, he received the negative.
The example was to prove that the packaging matters in the world of collectibles. Maybe it matters to a major degree, like the example provided, or to a lesser degree, as with a balrog. But it STILL matters.
Some people here just want the item, condition of packing be damned. I am completely ok with that. But most COLLECTORS want things as they were released from the factory, and packaging does matter. I can give you 1000 example from ebay, whether it be a toy, statue or a Rolex watch. Things that come in nice factory packaging WILL always bring more at auction than something with damaged or non-existant packaging. That's the point I'm trying to make.
As most of you know, 'collectibles' that weren't 'collected' many years ago, can now be worth quite a lot of money if they were kept intact(the star wars figure example). Now EVERYTHING seems to be a 'collectible' so people keep the items 'perfect'. So 20 years from now there's a good chance there are going to be a lot of Mint Witch Kings still out there. What will happen then, as it does with every collectible, is that the buyers start looking for a way to 'grade' an item. And packaging will then become a much larger part of the 'grade' than just an item itself, JUST as it has with the star wars figure(but probably not to that degree).
Elwood, you say that you don't care about the packaging. Imagine eBay didn't exist and you had to purchase your item at say, a comic con. Now there are 2 available, on a table right beside each other. The dealer wants the same price for either, but one has a crushed/water damaged box, the other box is factory fresh. The statues inside are identical. Which one do you pick up?
Ok, now the same situation but the one with the damaged product box is $100 cheaper. Do you go for the item because it's cheaper? If so, why was it cheaper? Why did the dealer mark it down? BECAUSE THE BOX IS DAMAGED.
I just made an offer to a guy on eBay for a GG Scout w/ bike on his buy it now/ best offer auction. His buy it now was $139. I offered $129. He comes back with
"I'll sell you one for $129, but it's not the one on auction. It is another I have but the box has a crushed corner"
FlyAndFight
02-25-2006, 01:08 PM
Vonhaun has been more than reasonable enough in providing information on the piece. He's offered to send any additional info via PM, if requested.
Looks to me like ComputerFly got burned a couple of times by some crappy Ebayers and unfortunately Vonhaun happens to be his target for venting. You've made a mountain out of a molehill...
If an auction doesn't provide sufficient info to one's liking, then simply ask the seller whatever questions you have. I agree that the more info provided initially by the seller, the better, but you can't please everyone all of the time.
ju421019
02-25-2006, 01:23 PM
Vonhahn - I think your intentions were to get some board members to view the auction and see if they were interested, but I think this thread got sidetracked in to other related topics.
Your best bet would have been to just place this thread in the For Sale section, where people who are looking to buy will view it favorably.
Best of luck. Great pics of the statue by the way.
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 01:32 PM
Vonhaun isn't a target at all. His auction is just a perfect example of sellers being vague in their descriptions. Those types of auctions waste his time and the buyer's time by HAVING to ask/answer OBVIOUS questions that should have been addressed in the auction to begin with on a piece that has this kind of value.
The people who think I'm attacking him are obviously missing the point that I am trying to HELP him by guiding him toward what, arguably, SOME/MOST buyers are expecting when making a purchase of this size/value.
Example:
"He comes with his box and inserts and the box is in overall great shape except for a crease on the left side which occured originally in shipping to me. (please see photos)"
Is there a picture of the crease in the photos as implied by the above sentence?? I don't see it, but you know what? It probably doesn't matter because the rest of the box looks great. He did a great job of dispalying the box and showing, for the most part, that the box IS in good condition. But he implies that there is a crease to be seen on the left side of the box that can be seen in the photos. But you actually CAN'T see it.
He is taking the time to point out the box is in great shape.....NOW. But he has also made it clear that is exactly how he's going to ship it, no outer protection for the product box, so by the time UPS/FedEx/Post is done with it, it is not going to look anything like the pretty pictures in this auction. It will have grime/dents/holes/water damage potentially. Why not do the buyer a favor and say your going to pack it up nice for them so they have no worries about the pretty box. PLUS the extra packaging is going to provide EVEN MORE protection for that $1000 dollar statue INSIDE the product box.
CaptainCaveTroll
02-25-2006, 01:39 PM
The people who think I'm attacking him are obviously missing the point that I am trying to HELP him by guiding him toward what, arguably, SOME/MOST buyers are expecting when making a purchase of this size/value.
I have bought and sold loads of statues over the last couple of years and, of all of the emails that I have, I would say no more than 2 people have asked about the outer shipping box and I will have dealt with well over 200 collectors (probably more). The main priority is the statue (obviously) and then the stryofoam (for safe postage) and the box (with picture). The last two are probably of equal importance. The shipping box is not vital and I dispute the fact that, in 20 years time, one with a carboard box will be worth more.
He is taking the time to point out the box is in great shape.....NOW. But he has also made it clear that is exactly how he's going to ship it, no outer protection for the product box, so by the time UPS/FedEx/Post is done with it, it is not going to look anything like the pretty pictures in this auction. It will have grime/dents/holes/water damage potentially. Why not do the buyer a favor and say your going to pack it up nice for them so they have no worries about the packaging. PLUS the extra packaging is going to provide EVEN MORE protection for that $1000 dollar statue INSIDE the product box.
He hasn't stated that he won't throw it down the stairs before he posts it but that doesn't mean he will. If you win the auction, why not ask him to package it well?
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 01:45 PM
:pow I have bought and sold loads of statues over the last couple of years and, of all of the emails that I have, I would say no more than 2 people have asked about the outer shipping box
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BROWN BOX!!!! REREAD THE POST!
I'm talking about the 'product box' That's the pretty colored box with all the pretty pictures for those of you that can't fathom that.
The 'brown shipping box' is the 'shipping' container.
"He hasn't stated that he won't throw it down the stairs before he posts it but that doesn't mean he will. If you win the auction, why not ask him to package it well?"
Why should I have to ask a seller to package an item well? It's common sense with a fragile item of this value and he should state it in his auction.
Am I still here?
CaptainCaveTroll
02-25-2006, 01:54 PM
He is taking the time to point out the box is in great shape.....NOW. But he has also made it clear that is exactly how he's going to ship it, no outer protection for the product box, so by the time UPS/FedEx/Post is done with it, it is not going to look anything like the pretty pictures in this auction.
Seeing as you are obviously very well qualified in making things clear for us mere mortals, can you tell me exactly where in the auction he states that it will be shipped in the 'pretty box' without any other outer box?
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 01:58 PM
Seeing as you are obviously very well qualified in making things clear for us mere mortals, can you tell me exactly where in the auction he states that it will be shipped in the 'pretty box' without any other outer box?
I would list them like I did the crease in the box. And the auction says it comes with the box and the insert (the Styrofoam) and that's it. - Von
It sounds like he's just going to tape up 'the product box' and send it to the buyer. He's using the 'product box' only, without putting into any other shipping container. I don't care about the original sideshow 'shipping' container. So now, the 'product box' will be exposed to everything on the way.
CaptainCaveTroll
02-25-2006, 02:04 PM
Did you answer my question, o wise one?
elwood49
02-25-2006, 02:20 PM
Elwood, you say that you don't care about the packaging. Imagine eBay didn't exist and you had to purchase your item at say, a comic con. Now there are 2 available, on a table right beside each other. The dealer wants the same price for either, but one has a crushed/water damaged box, the other box is factory fresh. The statues inside are identical. Which one do you pick up?
The one with the statue in the best condition. I wouldn't care about the box. I'm a statue collector, not a box collector. The boxes just go in my attic.
I have sold around 75 statues/collectibles on Ebay. I have NEVER had someone EVER complain about the condition of the product box. The fact that you are so concerned about it tells me a few things:
1. You come from a toy collecting background and don't have much experience in the field of statues/props.
2. You don't have much Ebay experience buying statues/props.
3. You don't have much Ebay experience selling statues/props.
4. You couldn't tell me what pieces are likely to gain in value over the next few years if your life depended on it.
I stand by what I say so much that I'll even let you read my Ebay feedback:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=usclaw24
CaptainCaveTroll
02-25-2006, 02:21 PM
Please don't tell me that I have silenced the Wise One!
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 02:50 PM
Please don't tell me that I have silenced the Wise One!
You haven't silenced jack buddy.
I've already answered you, above. Get your head out of your..
I quoted Von stating that the buyer is getting "the box, the statue, and that's it"
CaptainCaveTroll
02-25-2006, 02:56 PM
I quoted Von stating that the buyer is getting "the box, the statue, and that's it"
Do you really think that he would stick tape on the top and the bottom of the box with the image on and then post it? Of course he wouldn't. As a bidder, it would be quite easy to email him and ask him if he could package it in a strong outer box.
I think you had better do everybody a favour and state your ebay ID so that everybody can add you to their 'Blocked ebayers' as you sound like the kind of ebayer that many of us could do without.
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 02:57 PM
The one with the statue in the best condition. I wouldn't care about the box. I'm a statue collector, not a box collector. The boxes just go in my attic.
I have sold around 75 statues/collectibles on Ebay. I have NEVER had someone EVER complain about the condition of the product box. The fact that you are so concerned about it tells me a few things:
1. You come from a toy collecting background and don't have much experience in the field of statues/props.
2. You don't have much Ebay experience buying statues/props.
3. You don't have much Ebay experience selling statues/props.
4. You couldn't tell me what pieces are likely to gain in value over the next few years if your life depended on it.
I stand by what I say so much that I'll even let you read my Ebay feedback:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=usclaw24
I could care less about you and your feedback, get that straight.
It doesn't mean a damn thing.
Where are you coming from Elwood? Everyone who is attacking me for stating my opinion here can go .... themselves.
1)I don't come from ANY collecting background, besides comics about 20 years ago, before I sold them to attend college. Sorry my daddy doesn't buy me everything like yours does Elwood.
2) and 3) Your right, I am brand new to the statue collecting environment.
4) I never said I could tell you about what pieces will go up.
You can't come up with a good debate, so you simply pull things out of the air, as I did with my '1)' response. That's the same kind of argument you just made.
If you really don't have anything to add to this debate, I would suggest S'ing TFU
Sounds like I've hit a nerve with a couple of Sellers who have screwed a buyer before.
CaptainCaveTroll
02-25-2006, 03:07 PM
Any chance of your ebay ID? Don't be shy!
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 03:09 PM
Any chance of your ebay ID? Don't be shy!
What's yours?
BDboystoys
02-25-2006, 03:10 PM
Thank Vonhahn for sharing your ebay listing! Id love to get this piece but its one of those 'untouchables' for me!
Personally, I think you've done a great listing, lotsa picks! If I'd NEVER seen or heard of you before I'd buy in a heart beat. You have flawless feedback, pictures and will contact anyone if they require more information, so great job!
To me saying 'great shape' is fine! It means that overall its a a great condition. If there WERE any mark and chips you would most likely mention it! So all is fine by me.:D
Darklord Dave
02-25-2006, 03:13 PM
I don't think there needs to be anymore discussion on this topic - if so, take it to emails. Vonhahn, good luck on your auction. All auction notices should go in the commerce section under "Auctions". Thanks.
CaptainCaveTroll
02-25-2006, 03:14 PM
Your a sad sight CCT. 20,000 posts in 6 months???? You need to get a grip brotha...
Firstly. 'your' should be 'you're' (abbreviation of you are).
Secondly, you didn't answer my question. (You shouldn't answer a question with a question).
Thirdly, the '20,000 posts' is just what I have typed in as a joke.
Fourthly, my ebay ID is daxearles. I can't imagine your feedback will be even a fraction of mine.
To repeat my question, what is your ebay ID?
CookieMonster
02-25-2006, 03:21 PM
I could care less about you and your feedback, get that straight.
It doesn't mean a damn thing.
Where are you coming from Elwood? Everyone who is attacking me for stating my opinion here can go .... themselves.
^^^^^k me this thread is getting out of hand :horror
Some of these posts are longer than the flash fiction entries I have been reading on another thread.:peace
In response to the above quote. I realise people ALL react differently to comment and criticism but..... CALM DOWN NEWBIE:banghead
This kind of talk/response ain't good. I have read your points and understand the other members replies to you. If this keeps up you are gonna start swearing and get kicked off this chatboard for being rude, obnoxious and unapproachable.
Lets all have tea and bikkies and calm down a little.
At the time of typing this post and putting it up I see Darklord Dave has already suggested a similar thing so enough said.
BDboystoys
02-25-2006, 03:28 PM
I don't think there needs to be anymore discussion on this topic - if so, take it to emails. Vonhahn, good luck on your auction. All auction notices should go in the commerce section under "Auctions". Thanks.
THANKYOU DD, I didnt want to say anything,but it was going on and on!
Vonhahn
02-25-2006, 03:42 PM
I don't think there needs to be anymore discussion on this topic - if so, take it to emails. Vonhahn, good luck on your auction. All auction notices should go in the commerce section under "Auctions". Thanks.
Yea, I honestly never looked that far down on the page and I agree that's the best place. Now I know there is a thread JUST for auctions. Thanks.
As for all the fury...I was just trying to find a new home for my little witch king...sorry for all the drama...:peace
CaptainCaveTroll
02-25-2006, 03:43 PM
Here is ComputerFly's ebay ID - tigger4me2 - as he was not forthcoming.
Now, how do I block a bidder...?
Vonhahn
02-25-2006, 03:49 PM
Here is ComputerFly's ebay ID - tigger4me2 - as he was not forthcoming.
Now, how do I block a bidder...?
Under bidder/blocker. Thanks for his info...
http://cgi1.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?bidderblocklogin
occulum
02-25-2006, 04:17 PM
I think the forward delivery of the "helpful hints" is the only reason this spiraled out. .... tone it down a little and this never would've happened.
BAD way to tell somebody they have food stuck in their teeth:
"See, thats what I HATE about eating with people. You have to LOOK at them afterwards and they look dumb with food stuck in their teeth and dont even have any clue :banghead . Maybe you should LOOK IN A MIRROR after each meal and see if you have anything STUCK IN THERE. Rather than relying on OTHERS to tell you about it. Or maybe you should just NOT EAT SO MUCH CORN ON THE COB! ..... I'm not attacking you, just trying to be helpful"
GOOD way:
"Hey man .... got some food stuck right here."
:duff
ComputerFly
02-25-2006, 04:41 PM
Do you really think that he would stick tape on the top and the bottom of the box with the image on and then post it?
You, who came up with the sentence above, have the nerve to correct my use of your/you're?
You should really get some remedial training. The way your taking offense to our discussion, perhaps it was really YOU who sold me the damaged SSW item, under one of you aliases. Such anger, such hatred....
BDboystoys
02-25-2006, 06:05 PM
You, who came up with the sentence above, have the nerve to correct my use of your/you're?
You should really get some remedial training. The way your taking offense to our discussion, perhaps it was really YOU who sold me the damaged SSW item, under one of you aliases. Such anger, such hatred....
Can we please stop this now?
No need to accuse him of selling you what ever you got damaged as you too were getting hot under the collar too, but all is good now.
:peace
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