Sideshow got me, I missed the Grey Hulk!

[Bullseye]

Being a huge fan of Pablo’s and Martins work it is with great sadness that today the 13th January 2006 I am without a Grey Hulk Exclusive. Sideshow in their kindness and wisdom (they obviously hate us Europeans) decided to put this absolutely fantastic sculpt from one of the best sculptors in the business at the timely hour of 4.00am (based on Azogs initial link). Now being of sound mind I was in bed resting for the day ahead after waiting till 12.00am just in case they decided to put up this marvellous sculpt. You see I mainly collect their Marvel line and mainly their exclusives. But was I given an opportunity NO I WASN’T. Instead in their kindness and wisdom they sent me an email giving me the Heads UP on an action figure of Aragorn. Now while some people maybe interested in action figures, I isn’t one of them. Sideshow in its wisdom decided to move the ordering days from Friday to Thursday nights. Hell why not have it on Wednesday knowing that most people work the next morning while most people have weekends off.

This is not the first time Sideshow has ****ed over its European and non-US buyers. I have the fantastic Predator on order but this is only being shipped from the US warehouse and not the EU one so as well as paying $999 I pay duty, Import taxes and possibly big shipping fees.

It’s about time the people in Sideshow realise that the US market is not their only market. How would the US collectors have felt if SS decided to put this up at 4.00am your time while you were asleep? IMO it shows a complete lack of understanding of how people feel. Why couldn’t they have at least put it up like the usual times of 12.00am?

Maybe Sideshow can have someone respond, but I’d doubt that they would have the courage to explain how they are treating us Europeans.

BTW This piece will cost $299 plus shipping for you guys (It’s made in China). But by the time Sideshow ship it to me it will have cost close to $400 between delivery and VAT.

( I estimate that I have bought $8,000 worth of stuff from SS with about the same on order, I deserve more respect).

[pitchin]

It was 3:00am UK time that it went up

[Bullseye]

It was 3:00am UK time that it went up

Still a crazy time to put it up. And on a Thursday too. Why not Friday like normal. I ain't looking for an arguement with people. This thread is not about that. I want an explaination from SS why they have no respect for EU collectors.

[SolidLiquidFox]

I feel for you Bullseye. I know you been following this piece very closely and your name did come up when we were discussing it last night in the statueforums.com.

[ResinDog]

It's always gonna be a bad time for somebody. Try living in Australia, at least you have a European warehouse! Completely agree with you though Bullseye, this piece means way more to me than that 12" doll - they should have given better info regarding the release of this piece.

However, it's great to see that SS has introduced such a low limited edition, and I'm very happy for all those that were lucky enough to snag one.

I'm a bit worried about the green exclusive though. I hope the edition size isn't too high on this one because many people who have ordered the grey, have also ordered the green. I can see them over-estimating the popularity and ES of this version, as I think many who have both may cancel the green later on, making it's value go downhill.

[The Josh]

It does suck for you all I agree. Like you said RD it's gonna be bad for someone so why try to make a big change if it's still gonna piss or screw someone else.

As far as this or that 12" doll :rolleyes: give me the doll. :D

[pitchin]

TBH......it's the only way they could do it...........otherwise if they advertised it in advance with an ES of 50...........ebay scalpers woulda got the lot. At least this way collectors got em'

[ResinDog]

TBH......it's the only way they could do it...........otherwise if they advertised it in advance with an ES of 50...........ebay scalpers woulda got the lot. At least this way collectors got em'
Not me...:( We'll see how many end up on eBay.

[jdonoho]

TBH......it's the only way they could do it...........otherwise if they advertised it in advance with an ES of 50...........ebay scalpers woulda got the lot. At least this way collectors got em'

Ha! Ha! We'll see how many are actually kept. I'd bet 30+ are flipped. Statueforum has a ton of flippers as well as here. I flip too sometimes...to each his own. Most people flip at some point whether they intended to or not.

[TheWitchKing]

Originally posted by jdonoho
Ha! Ha! We'll see how many are actually kept. I'd bet 30+ are flipped. Statueforum has a ton of flippers as well as here. I flip too sometimes...to each his own. Most people flip at some point whether they intended to or not.

Who you calling a flipper? FLIP YOU! :p

[Jesseawilson]

It was the only way to do it, no server issues and no scalpers. Only very few attentive and dedicated fans.

It will always be a bad time for some part of the world. Dam rotation of the earth!!!!!



Jesse

[TheWitchKing]

Jesse, make it stop!

http://www.develcor.com/images/earth/earth002.gif

[pitchin]

:yuck :yuck :yuck

[Shai]

I'm a bit worried about the green exclusive though. I hope the edition size isn't too high on this one because many people who have ordered the grey, have also ordered the green. I can see them over-estimating the popularity and ES of this version, as I think many who have both may cancel the green later on, making it's value go downhill.

Good point....and bullseye, down the line I'm pretty much sure youll end up with a grey Hulk statue...

[Bullseye]

The proper way to do it was to post it up at 12.00am Greenwich time so most people have a chance not 3.00am greenwich time. If i had have know that the Green exclusive was going to be up at 3.00am i'd have gotten up to order it and then would have discovered there was a grey exclusive. Anyway no more comments from me on the matter. I just hope Sideshow thinks more about its collectors outside the US.

Martin I’d like to apologise for my outburst regarding the Grey Hulk. I should have realised that loosing a close friend/member of the family is much more significant than loosing out on a collectible. You know I’m a huge fan of your work and I am still happy that I got the green exclusive.

I would also like to apologise to my fellow forum members about my ‘letting off stream’. I don’t want to be seen as a whiner and I congratulate everyone who was lucky enough to pick up this marvellous piece.

[jdonoho]

Who you calling a flipper? FLIP YOU! :p

You know it'll be flipped. LE 50...if it even remotely goes high people will flip even if not intending to. I'd have probably flipped if I got it. I'd be happy with the green and even happier with the green if I flipped the grey for a profit. You know the drill...

If you flipped me...you'd be taking a loss by the way. lol

[lcummins]

I agree with Bullseye about at least letting us know he was going to be up for pre-order. Also, I agree about the Friday Newsletter now coming on Thursdays. How are we ever supposed to know how things work if they constantly keep changing what they tell us! How many of you logged on early to your Sideshow account and then your newsletter account for the Anakin (or was it Obi-Wan?) priority pre-order and set there refreshing your account page or newsletter page waiting for the link to turn up? Silly me, all I had to do was go to the home page for streamlined pre-order, but I followed the rules! Oh well, I guess "Collect for Life" means having to track down their product on the secondary market for the rest of your life!

[Jesseawilson]

The proper way to do it was to post it up at 12.00am Greenwich time so most people have a chance not 3.00am greenwich time. If i had have know that the Green exclusive was going to be up at 3.00am i'd have gotten up to order it and then would have discovered there was a grey exclusive. Anyway no more comments from me on the matter. I just hope Sideshow thinks more about its collectors outside the US.

Martin I’d like to apologise for my outburst regarding the Grey Hulk. I should have realised that loosing a close friend/member of the family is much more significant than loosing out on a collectible. You know I’m a huge fan of your work and I am still happy that I got the green exclusive.

I would also like to apologise to my fellow forum members about my ‘letting off stream’. I don’t want to be seen as a whiner and I congratulate everyone who was lucky enough to pick up this marvellous piece.


I respect that........


Jesse

[statuefreak]

I feel you Bullseye. Having the Exclusives shipped to Malaysia, I always expect to add another $150 to $200 on top of each statue for shipping and customs :( . But I have no problem so far on ordering the exclusives as long as I check in in time (Usually it's 2am here).

It is understandable that SS can't satisfy everyone on setting a universal timeframe that will make us all happy. But I was hoping of getting some form of notice on the grey hulk as well.

I missed Big Grey :crying

[Kookie]

Guess what people...I live in the USA and missed the Gray Hulk as well. I was 5 minutes late but that's how life is....it's sometimes unfair.

If people were clever and patient enough to wait and find it...I say good for them!!!!!

[The Josh]

I don't see much merit in the complaints about the newsletter. It's been going up on Thursday for the last 2-3 weeks and at the same time I believe. So it's a persons duty to check SS site or their newsletter account a few times during Thursday or Friday depending on where your at in the world.

[Jesseawilson]

Guess what people...I live in the USA and missed the Gray Hulk as well. I was 5 minutes late but that's how life is....it's sometimes unfair.

If people were clever and patient enough to wait and find it...I say good for them!!!!!

Good point with only 50 available ALOT of people missed out including those in the US. Wheather you were at home watching TV, sleeping, or at the bar. Just one of those things I guess.....

That's a good attitude to have though, I am also happy for those who got it.

Jesse

[jdonoho]

Hey, I heard because of the demand and not giving people fair notice...Sideshow was going to increase the edition size..a la the Dr. Doom exclusive.

Wasn't that the point of the online newsletter to give everyone a fair chance? Has it been announced that the newsletter will show up at 10PM EST Thursday from now on? I've always thought it was supposed to be Friday sometime, but still don't know any set time.

[Jesseawilson]

The thing is these are so popular and so sought after because of the edition size. If it were the green that was 50 nobody would even be talking about the grey except to ***** that it's not green......


Jesse


**disclaimer** Except for the few real hardcore marvel fans that prefer it in grey.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Sorry ppl, looks like I missed something here. What Grey Hulk are you talking about? It's not the Hulk vs Spiderman maquette?

[TheWitchKing]

Here you go...
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=90022

[jdonoho]

The thing is these are so popular and so sought after because of the edition size. If it were the green that was 50 nobody would even be talking about the grey except to ***** that it's not green......


Jesse


**disclaimer** Except for the few real hardcore marvel fans that prefer it in grey.


Yeah...I don't really care, but would just like to know if the newsletter is scheduled at a time or what? What's the point of the online newsletter that was supposed to give people an equal shot if you have no idea when it will show up anyway? Sounds about like the old method.

[The Josh]

Has it been announced that the newsletter will show up at 10PM EST Thursday from now on?

No but it's been going up about the same time on Thursday for the last several week as I already. :confused:

[Bullseye]

10PM EST is a crazy time for the NL to go up. Thats 3.00am over here. What is going on over there in SS. What was wrong with the time of 6.00PM EST. That at least gave me a chance. It now looks like i'm going to miss all other exclusives.:banghead

[Jesseawilson]

10PM EST is a crazy time for the NL to go up. Thats 3.00am over here. What is going on over there in SS. What was wrong with the time of 6.00PM EST. That at least gave me a chance. It now looks like i'm going to miss all other exclusives.:banghead


Well it's not that often that a piece will be going up on a Thursday evening. Most will still be done the regular way. If they had announced this piece in advance then the order process would have taken at least 2-3 hours.....



Jesse

[Fritz]

FYI, I missed out on an Aragorn Statue. I was busy doing other things at the time and I only missed it by about one or two years. :p :D

[lcummins]

Well it's not that often that a piece will be going up on a Thursday evening. Most will still be done the regular way. If they had announced this piece in advance then the order process would have taken at least 2-3 hours.....



Jesse

Not for only 50! It would probably still have sold out in only 30 to 45 minutes or so. The real problem is that the newsletter needs to go up at a preset, standard time so that everyone has a fair chance to get online and see it at the same time. That would then give everyone a fair chance at pre-orders like this.

As you might can tell, I'm not quite in as forgiving a mood as I was last night. The more I think about it, the more annoyed I get.

[jdonoho]

No but it's been going up about the same time on Thursday for the last several week as I already. :confused:

You sure...maybe it did, but online...the 1/6/06 newsletter link was posted on 1/6/06. Yet the 1/13/06 newsletter link was posted on 1/12/06. So something is off if it was released 1/5/06, yet they didn't put the link up until 1/6/06. Don't know...just some discrepancies I see.

[jdonoho]

As you might can tell, I'm not quite in as forgiving a mood as I was last night. The more I think about it, the more annoyed I get.

HULK SMASH!!!!!

[Jesseawilson]

Not for only 50! It would probably still have sold out in only 30 to 45 minutes or so.


Not a chance, if people had heard that there was a edition size of 50 half of the world would be trying to get it and we would all probably still be waiting for our screens to refresh....... Sideshow's computer would have burst into flames and the entire place burnt down by now.





Jesse

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Here you go...
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=90022
Thanks for the link! Was this piece really mentioned in the newsletter??? I've checked it again, and I can't find it!

[DannieDarKo]

No offense Lonnie, but do you even collect Marvel?

[lcummins]

Thanks for the link! Was this piece really mentioned in the newsletter??? I've checked it again, and I can't find it!

No, there was only a "hint" of something mentioned in the podcast, and the link to this exclusive was on the product page of the green exclusive, so if you went in and ordered fast like I did, you missed it! For all I know, they were still available when I ordered the green exclusive! :banghead

[Alice Adrenochrome]

No, there was only a "hint" of something mentioned in the podcast, and the link to this exclusive was on the product page of the green exclusive, so if you went in and ordered fast like I did, you missed it! For all I know, they were still available when I ordered the green exclusive! :banghead

That really sucks!

[lcummins]

No offense Lonnie, but do you even collect Marvel?

Well lets see... I have the Green Goblin 1/4, the Logan 1/4, both Elektra 1/4s, the Drake Marquette, the Thing marquette, both Punisher 1/4s, both Wolverine/Sabertooth statues, X-men/Sentinel Exclusive on the way, Ironman on the way, Doom Exclusive on the way, Hulk/Spider-man Exclusive (green) on order, and Thing bust on the way!! I don't know, but it sounds like I collect Marvel to me... :peace

[DannieDarKo]

Oh then this MUST suck! :violin :violin

[jdonoho]

Not a chance, if people had heard that there was a edition size of 50 half of the world would be trying to get it and we would all probably still be waiting for our screens to refresh....... Sideshow's computer would have burst into flames and the entire place burnt down by now.
Jesse

Why even announce the LE....like so many items...just put TBD and then noone knows it's any different until disappears because the 50 went already? Simple...makes it no different than the Green Hulk at that point.

[Fritz]

No, there was only a "hint" of something mentioned in the podcast, and the link to this exclusive was on the product page of the green exclusive, so if you went in and ordered fast like I did, you missed it! For all I know, they were still available when I ordered the green exclusive! :banghead

That's pretty much what happened to me as well. It was probably there when I ordered but didn't notice. Actually, I kind of like the gray version better and would have most likely kept that one over the green version. I may attempt to repaint it though when I get it.

[jdonoho]

No, there was only a "hint" of something mentioned in the podcast, and the link to this exclusive was on the product page of the green exclusive, so if you went in and ordered fast like I did, you missed it! For all I know, they were still available when I ordered the green exclusive! :banghead

You know...I never even seen the newsletter until after it was gone. I noticed through the 'New Arrivals' link. So didn't even have to be a newsletter member to know about it anyway.

[lcummins]

Oh then this MUST suck! :violin :violin

Yes indeed! But I'm hopeful that either the wait list or a board member might come through! I guess you can't get everything, even when you try.

[oxbeard]

Count me on the missed out list and I'm in the US too. Had to go to bed early last night to prepare for a very early morning. I have to admit while I did expect a limited Grey exclusive I did not anticipate it to be so limited. Yeah, I would have ordered it if I had been one of the lucky ones, but I'm not going to beat myself up over it. Won't be the last time I miss out on something, I'm sure.

Guess, I'll be just as happy with my Green version. Will make my son happy anyway. He's our big Hulk fan and can't figure out why people want to paint Hulk grey, LOL

I was slightly confused too. When I placed my order this morning there was not a full pay option. There were 2 links for the flexpay option. This may be fixed now, but I would have preferred to ordered the full pay option. Guess flexpay may end up being better in the long run. Just confused about the apparent mixup.

[The Josh]

You sure...maybe it did, but online...the 1/6/06 newsletter link was posted on 1/6/06. Yet the 1/13/06 newsletter link was posted on 1/12/06. So something is off if it was released 1/5/06, yet they didn't put the link up until 1/6/06. Don't know...just some discrepancies I see.

Positive. I remeber thinking it was funny the link saying it was the newsletter for the next day when it was still the day before. It seems they've been going up around 6pm if not before that. Not sure why it was behind yesterday.

[NASEDO]

Well its all news for me. I thought that Hulk we be going up the same time Aragorn was going up for sale. Just like with Skinner last week. I also thought it was odd there was no Prioity Pre Order for Hulk assuming the edition size would be High.

But for me it has become too much to deal these things. Its like I have to go on a treasure hunt to order these statues. And even with the set times, which suck being sold 10:00am pst or 1:00pm EST while I'm working with the rest of the world.

I guess I'm to blame and didn't read the so-called clues, but whatever. I'm kinda of pissed because I was interested in the piece but know I feel almost betrayed, odd.

Sideshow is very sneaky. Its just bad timing, with the whole "new" login for the news letter and the Prioirity ordering and now the grey hulk which I had no clue about because I trusted Sideshow to send me an email like with Aragorn to give me the heads up.

I imagine there must be alot of pissed people out there, but what can we do, complain, will it work, or cry like babies like I'm doing now. I think I will complain to them also. :crying :crying :crying :crying

[Dusty]

Well its all news for me. I thought that Hulk we be going up the same time Aragorn was going up for sale. Just like with Skinner last week. I also thought it was odd there was no Prioity Pre Order for Hulk assuming the edition size would be High.

But for me it has become too much to deal these things. Its like I have to go on a treasure hunt to order these statues. And even with the set times, which suck being sold 10:00am pst or 1:00pm EST while I'm working with the rest of the world.

I guess I'm to blame and didn't read the so-called clues, but whatever. I'm kinda of pissed because I was interested in the piece but know I feel almost betrayed, odd.

Sideshow is very sneaky. Its just bad timing, with the whole "new" login for the news letter and the Prioirity ordering and now the grey hulk which I had no clue about because I trusted Sideshow to send me an email like with Aragorn to give me the heads up.

I imagine there must be alot of pissed people out there, but what can we do, complain, will it work, or cry like babies like I'm doing now. I think I will complain to them also. :crying :crying :crying :crying

I'm really sorry so many people are feeling sad about this, but you gotta realize that with such a TINY edition size this was really the only way to do it to keep scalpers away. If we had even hinted that we would be selling it and how small of an edition size it would be those scalpers would have been SWARMING and practically none of the collectors would have gotten one - plus, if a time had been announced for the gray hulk, it would have been sold out in a nano-second, nevermind 30 minutes or so. This method was just one more way to reward our customer base who loyally reads the Sideshow home page and scans the product pages with a fine-tooth comb.

We didn't announce the time for the Green Hulk versions because their edition sizes are both TBD for now. Oh, and the Skinner and the X3 maquettes went on sale Thursday night with the posting of the newsletter as well, not Friday morning... in most cases, everything except for the scheduled priority pre-orders will always go up for sale with the posting of the newsletter.

Again, I'm sorry you're feeling like we did this to you on purpose, but we really did put some thought behind it, and we can almost guarantee that no scalpers got one, at least take heart in that! (well, unless one of your fellow board members who got one decides to flip it of course :thwak)

[Shai]

I'm really sorry so many people are feeling sad about this, but you gotta realize that with such a TINY edition size this was really the only way to do it to keep scalpers away. If we had even hinted that we would be selling it and how small of an edition size it would be those scalpers would have been SWARMING and practically none of the collectors would have gotten one - plus, if a time had been announced for the gray hulk, it would have been sold out in a nano-second, nevermind 30 minutes or so. This method was just one more way to reward our customer base who loyally reads the newsletters online and scans the product pages with a fine-tooth comb.

We didn't announce the time for the Green Hulk versions because their edition sizes are both TBD for now. Oh, and the Skinner and the X3 maquettes went on sale Thursday night with the posting of the newsletter as well, not Friday morning... in most cases, everything except for the scheduled priority pre-orders will always go up for sale with the posting of the newsletter.

Again, I'm sorry you're feeling like we did this to you on purpose, but we really did put some thought behind it, and we can almost guarantee that no scalpers got one, at least take heart in that! (well, unless one of your fellow board members who got one decides to flip it of course :thwak)

Great post Dusty.... That was the only way to do it...at 50 pieces for an edition ,even some of the more hardcore Sideshow fans will miss it...Guess it was a matter of right place, right time...

[Bullseye]

I'm really sorry so many people are feeling sad about this, but you gotta realize that with such a TINY edition size this was really the only way to do it to keep scalpers away. If we had even hinted that we would be selling it and how small of an edition size it would be those scalpers would have been SWARMING and practically none of the collectors would have gotten one - plus, if a time had been announced for the gray hulk, it would have been sold out in a nano-second, nevermind 30 minutes or so. This method was just one more way to reward our customer base who loyally reads the newsletters online and scans the product pages with a fine-tooth comb.

We didn't announce the time for the Green Hulk versions because their edition sizes are both TBD for now. Oh, and the Skinner and the X3 maquettes went on sale Thursday night with the posting of the newsletter as well, not Friday morning... in most cases, everything except for the scheduled priority pre-orders will always go up for sale with the posting of the newsletter.

Again, I'm sorry you're feeling like we did this to you on purpose, but we really did put some thought behind it, and we can almost guarantee that no scalpers got one, at least take heart in that! (well, unless one of your fellow board members who got one decides to flip it of course :thwak)

I can tell you now that at least 50% of the people who got this are flippers. If i had a chance to get it there was no way i'd ever sell it. Your time for us Europeans was a disgrace IMO. But then again i'm only spending $10k on SS stuff maybe its not enough. Sorry to be so tough on you Dusty but someone has to listen to be give out.

[Jesseawilson]

Hey I got an idea why dont all you people that must ***** and complain about this keep it all in one thread. Honestly what is the deal with 10 threads about the same thing. Is everyone's opinon really that earthshattering that it warrants a new thread every time.

Lets keep the forum reader friendly.........

Jesse

[Darklord Dave]

I think it was an excellent way of doing it (and I'm not just saying that because I got one). With the previous newsletter method it wouldn't have been reasonable and there would definitely be justified complaints, but everyone had the chance to read the newsletter and listen to the podcast at the same time. And I really think this DID keep it from the scalpers as we've seen that it's mostly frequent posters here and at SF that got the piece.

[SKARY]

Hey Dusty how about in the future if they are going to do something like the grey hulk again (i'll use the hulk as an example)I suggest that you guys put the green exclusive and regular on sale announced. When ever the exclusive sells out you could of announced a lottery contest in a special newsletter for a chance to order the exclusive using the contest form. Have a 12-24 hour window to enter and that's that. Winner's would be contacted if they had been selected with further instructions on how to get their order processed. This option gives everyone a fair chance as long as they entered. It just seems like a good option to think about for next time. What do you think?????

[Alice Adrenochrome]

I'm a bit distressed. I didn't know about the Gray Hulk. Probably didn't get the hints, or perhaps I was just sleeping? The scalpers didn't get one, and I didn't get one as well. To me, it amounts to the same. And I'm not happy about it.

[Bullseye]

Like the first 50 to order the exclusive green would get a shot to order the 50 Grey. I think this would be a better way for the future. If the Green Exclusive was sold out before the morning too i would have really been pissed.

[JSA]

I'm really sorry so many people are feeling sad about this, but you gotta realize that with such a TINY edition size this was really the only way to do it to keep scalpers away. If we had even hinted that we would be selling it and how small of an edition size it would be those scalpers would have been SWARMING and practically none of the collectors would have gotten one - plus, if a time had been announced for the gray hulk, it would have been sold out in a nano-second, nevermind 30 minutes or so. This method was just one more way to reward our customer base who loyally reads the Sideshow home page and scans the product pages with a fine-tooth comb.

We didn't announce the time for the Green Hulk versions because their edition sizes are both TBD for now. Oh, and the Skinner and the X3 maquettes went on sale Thursday night with the posting of the newsletter as well, not Friday morning... in most cases, everything except for the scheduled priority pre-orders will always go up for sale with the posting of the newsletter.

Again, I'm sorry you're feeling like we did this to you on purpose, but we really did put some thought behind it, and we can almost guarantee that no scalpers got one, at least take heart in that! (well, unless one of your fellow board members who got one decides to flip it of course :thwak)

Well in this case, for the people here who missed it, actually the lack of
this piece being available on Ebay, will mean that they'll never get it.
Double-edged sword I know, but as one who missed this item and really
wanted it, I'm thinking there'll be a slim to none chance of me being
successful on the wait list, or getting this piece from a board member,
or on Ebay. This is the most I've ever been disappointed missing a statue.

JS :(

[Kookie]

Geez....you didn't get one...get over it!!!

You probably didn't get the cheerleader in highschool either. You want Sideshow to call them up and demand a date as well.

[Dusty]

I can tell you now that at least 50% of the people who got this are flippers. If i had a chance to get it there was no way i'd ever sell it. Your time for us Europeans was a disgrace IMO. But then again i'm only spending $10k on SS stuff maybe its not enough. Sorry to be so tough on you Dusty but someone has to listen to be give out.

No need to apologize, I learned long ago not to take things too much to heart in the passionate arena of collecting :) And I totally feel for you, but honestly, there would not be time that it was posted that would have been perfect. If we had gone 3-5 hours earlier, most people in the US would still be at work and we would get blasted for that - if we had gone later, it would be in the middle of the night for even more of a majority of people. Unfortunately there's just no winning when it comes to world times. :peace

[Kookie]

Dusty you shouldn't have to apologize. Sideshow does more than enough for it's customers!!!

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Well in this case, for the people here who missed it, actually the lack of
this piece being available on Ebay, will mean that they'll never get it.
Double-edged sword I know, but as one who missed this item and really
wanted it, I'm thinking there'll be a slim to none chance of me being
successful on the wait list, or getting this piece from a board member,
or on Ebay. This is the most I've ever been disappointed missing a statue.

JS :(

Heh! What do you expect, with an edition number of 50! This stinks! I love low edition numbers, but not if only a select public is aware of it.

[Dusty]

Hey Dusty how about in the future if they are going to do something like the grey hulk again (i'll use the hulk as an example)I suggest that you guys put the green exclusive and regular on sale announced. When ever the exclusive sells out you could of announced a lottery contest in a special newsletter for a chance to order the exclusive using the contest form. Have a 12-24 hour window to enter and that's that. Winner's would be contacted if they had been selected with further instructions on how to get their order processed. This option gives everyone a fair chance as long as they entered. It just seems like a good option to think about for next time. What do you think?????


This is a very interesting idea indeed - thanks for your constructive input Skary :) I will pass it along!

[Shai]

Geez....you didn't get one...get over it!!!

You probably didn't get the cheerleader in highschool either. You want Sideshow to call them up and demand a date as well.


Well I had my fair share of cheerleaders in high school and guess what..??? I 've got the grey Hulk on preorder....

[tomandshell]

I would have had no idea about Hulk had I not listened to the podcast. I know that Pitchin lives in Europe and stayed up very late (and got one) just because of the hint in the podcast.

Hardcore folks would have known that the newsletter was up last Thursday at 7 PST, and known that Skinner and the X3 items began selling at that time, and known that this was a week after the Spider-Man preview--and should have known it might go up for sale. Expecting those things from my past Sideshow experience, and after having heard the clue in the podcast, I sat around for an hour refreshing the newsletter page, went straight for the Hulk and looked around for the special opportunity mentioned in the podcast. I believe that those hardcore nuts who followed the situation closely had a chance to get one based on the events of the past week or so. I know I wasn't the only one.

I actually created a thread alerting everybody to the situation after listening to the podcast (and hours before the preorder went up), but that has now been merged away, so people can no longer clearly see that some of us were indeed trying to get the word out yesterday afternoon and evening. We also began posting immediately when it went up, alerting folks to the situation. We did our best to get the word out!

[HeraldElrond]

Me too, go figure :D

[lcummins]

I'm really sorry so many people are feeling sad about this, but you gotta realize that with such a TINY edition size this was really the only way to do it to keep scalpers away.

Well, why such a tiny edition size for such a popular set of characters? Sideshow had to know this would be highly sought after!



...This method was just one more way to reward our customer base who loyally reads the Sideshow home page and scans the product pages with a fine-tooth comb.

So now, not only do we have to spend every pre-order day refreshing the newsletter page all evening until it appears, we have to slow down and read every product page very carefully and risk the pre-order selling out?

... in most cases, everything except for the scheduled priority pre-orders will always go up for sale with the posting of the newsletter.

Ok, fair enough. Set a standard time for the newsletter to be posted each and every week. It appears you are posting them about 6 or 7 PM PST each Thursday, so pick a time and make it a standard and let us know!



...but everyone had the chance to read the newsletter and listen to the podcast at the same time...

No they didn't!! Most of us were expecting the newsletter on Friday because that's when Sideshow has told us the newsletters will come out. We have had the occassional newsletter early on Thursday in the past, and just because the past couple of weeks it has come on Thursday, doesn't mean we should have automatically assumed it would always come on Thursday now! Are we now supposed to just sit there refreshing until it comes up? Whoo Hooo! Spooktacular all year long! I'm going to go buy stock in a keyboard company!!!! :rolleyes:

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Geez....you didn't get one...get over it!!!

You probably didn't get the cheerleader in highschool either. You want Sideshow to call them up and demand a date as well.

Yes. Can it be done?

[Kookie]

Sideshow could probably make you one Alice :wacky

[Shai]

Yes. Can it be done?


LMAO.............TOO FUNNY...........:mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha :mwaha

[lcummins]

Geez....you didn't get one...get over it!!!

You probably didn't get the cheerleader in highschool either. You want Sideshow to call them up and demand a date as well.

Excuse me! Some of us are trying to politely give Sideshow feedback on this situation. How about you get over yourself!

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Some ppl just don't know any better...

[daelith]

I certainly don't think this is about collectors. I've faithfully followed the Marvel line since it's inception and was hoping to continue my exclusive streak. With an ES of 50, it's less about rewarding your customer base than trying to build buzz when they DO get flipped. Trying to avoid flippers? Please..with such an EXTREME ES of 50 you're COUNTING on people to flip it to generate press and build some credibility in the secondary market--where up until this point--prices have been languishing. With a more moderate ES, say 100-200, it still would've sold out AND collectors would have been satisfied. But like I said, it's all bout the buzz.

And then there's the notion that the newsletter will offer readers a fair shot at the item...

And perhaps Dusty is sincere, but it's in my nature to question authority.

[Kookie]

If you have some real constructive comments send an email using their customer service form.

If you want to post a gripe on a forum board expect some members to respond with an opposite view. In truth...it seems like you are full of yourself that you have to pout because you didn't get what you want.

[Dusty]

we have to slow down and read every product page very carefully and risk the pre-order selling out?

That's why the edition size of the Exclusive Green Hulk diorama was not set yet, so that there was no chance of it selling out until everyone on the newsletter list had a fair shot at it :duff


Trying to avoid flippers? Please..with such an EXTREME ES of 50 you're COUNTING on people to flip it

In my eyes scalpers and flippers are different breeds. Scalpers buy with no intent whatsoever of keeping it. Flippers sometimes keep it but if the item rises in value they will consider flipping it to fund more collecting adventures. I said no "scalpers" got this piece, which is true - you guys have proven that most all of them went to faithful board members, which is a good thing IMO, whether they decide to flip later on or not!

[NASEDO]

I know its a no win situation but an edition size this low should of been done to The Beast Statue. I figure this Hulk and Spidey Statue is going to do well since both characters are among the most popular comic icons. And since there is no Priority pre-order for this I assume the exclusive Green will be high. But lets hope its kinda of low to make me feel better, I still like to cry about it. And I didn't cry when the upped the Doom Statue, but I wouldn't want to see the grey hulk go up. :mexwave

[mlarsen]

I say give the people on the waitlist a little something.

[NASEDO]

Why are people getting mad because some of us are crying. Aren't we supposed to let it out and not hold it in. Its funny that were getting *****ed at for *****ing. :banana

[Alice Adrenochrome]

I certainly don't think this is about collectors. I've faithfully followed the Marvel line since it's inception and was hoping to continue my exclusive streak. With an ES of 50, it's less about rewarding your customer base than trying to build buzz when they DO get flipped. Trying to avoid flippers? Please..with such an EXTREME ES of 50 you're COUNTING on people to flip it to generate press and build some credibility in the secondary market--where up until this point--prices have been languishing. With a more moderate ES, say 100-200, it still would've sold out AND collectors would have been satisfied. But like I said, it's all bout the buzz.

And then there's the notion that the newsletter will offer readers a fair shot at the item...

And perhaps Dusty is sincere, but it's in my nature to question authority.

Amen!
Again, I love low ES, but please make sure every customer get's the same chance. And by that, I don't mean what has been pulled off with the Gray Hulk.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

If you have some real constructive comments send an email using their customer service form.

If you want to post a gripe on a forum board expect some members to respond with an opposite view. In truth...it seems like you are full of yourself that you have to pout because you didn't get what you want.

I have no problem with an opposite view, that's part of the fun. But if you can't keep that opinion objective, then you are out of line.

[lcummins]

That's why the edition size of the Exclusive Green Hulk diorama was not set yet, so that there was no chance of it selling out until everyone on the newsletter list had a fair shot at it :duff

Yes, but we are discussing the "Gray" Hulk, not the green. :peace

[daelith]

In truth...it seems like you are full of yourself that you have to pout because you didn't get what you want.

This is a discussion forum. But, um, I guess I can play that game too:
You're a one-legged pairate chomping has-been shoe salesman!

Hmmmm...that wasn't very fulfilling...

[lcummins]

If you have some real constructive comments send an email using their customer service form.

If you want to post a gripe on a forum board expect some members to respond with an opposite view. In truth...it seems like you are full of yourself that you have to pout because you didn't get what you want.

Well, Sideshow employees have told us they read this board and listen to our comments. This really isn't a customer service issue; we are trying to give them feedback on a "new" way they put something up for pre-order which didn't work out too well it seems.

[The Josh]

I can tell you now that at least 50% of the people who got this are flippers. If i had a chance to get it there was no way i'd ever sell it. Your time for us Europeans was a disgrace IMO. But then again i'm only spending $10k on SS stuff maybe its not enough. Sorry to be so tough on you Dusty but someone has to listen to be give out.

Do you know this for a fact? I have a feeling SS knows who the scalpers/flippers are. Maybe not all but they probably have a pretty damn good idea of who they are. Well, sorry you feel it's a disgrace to the Europeans but they are a US company and they have to set a time that's the best for us here in the US but you all as well. If they made it perfect for you or to your liking if it's much later or earlier then it would screw us.

Hey I got an idea why dont all you people that must ***** and complain about this keep it all in one thread. Honestly what is the deal with 10 threads about the same thing. Is everyone's opinon really that earthshattering that it warrants a new thread every time.

Lets keep the forum reader friendly.........

Jesse

I totally agree.:peace

Like the first 50 to order the exclusive green would get a shot to order the 50 Grey. I think this would be a better way for the future. If the Green Exclusive was sold out before the morning too i would have really been pissed.

What if let's say me doesn't want the green exclusive. So I pass but the first 50 that do want the grey. Should I get screwed out of the Grey just because of that? Not a real fair method if you ask me.

[Bullseye]

Do you know this for a fact? I have a feeling SS knows who the scalpers/flippers are. Maybe not all but they probably have a pretty damn good idea of who they are. Well, sorry you feel it's a disgrace to the Europeans but they are a US company and they have to set a time that's the best for us here in the US but you all as well. If they made it perfect for you or to your liking if it's much later or earlier then it would screw us.



I totally agree.:peace



What if let's say me doesn't want the green exclusive. So I pass but the first 50 that do want the grey. Should I get screwed out of the Grey just because of that? Not a real fair method if you ask me.


I know a few of the people who have gotten them on the statueforum and they are flippers. They have bought them to make a profit and i have no problem with that. But to say this was done to prevent this is not telling the truth. IJMO.

[The Josh]

Well, Sideshow employees have told us they read this board and listen to our comments. This really isn't a customer service issue; we are trying to give them feedback on a "new" way they put something up for pre-order which didn't work out too well it seems.

I don't think there was a prefect way to do this though LC. If they still had the old newsletter system people would still be complaining that they missed because their newsletter didn't get here on time. It was posted at the same time on the SS site for everyone it can't get much easier or perfect than that. Now, I know that those non-US people have different times but SS did it's best to give everyone a shot

[The Josh]

I know a few of the people who have gotten them on the statueforum and they are flippers. They have bought them to make a profit and i have no problem with that. But to say this was done to prevent this is not telling the truth. IJMO.

Yeah, I bet there are and I have an idea on a couple. You should be mad at them because they screwed you more than SS. Calling SS liars is pretty much bull**** IMO.

[SKARY]

Hey Dusty how about in the future if they are going to do something like the grey hulk again (i'll use the hulk as an example)I suggest that you guys put the green exclusive and regular on sale announced. When ever the exclusive sells out you could of announced a lottery contest in a special newsletter for a chance to order the exclusive using the contest form. Have a 12-24 hour window to enter and that's that. Winner's would be contacted if they had been selected with further instructions on how to get their order processed. This option gives everyone a fair chance as long as they entered. It just seems like a good option to think about for next time. What do you think?????

That's why I like this idea Fair CHANCE for everyone,

[Bullseye]

12.00am Greenwich mean time - 7.00pm EST or 4.00 PST and around 10.00am in Sydney. This is the time previous exclusives have gone up and IMO the best time for everyone.

[lcummins]

I don't think there was a prefect way to do this though LC. If they still had the old newsletter system people would still be complaining that they missed because their newsletter didn't get here on time. It was posted at the same time on the SS site for everyone it can't get much easier or perfect than that. Now, I know that those non-US people have different times but SS did it's best to give everyone a shot

But it could get better; set a standard time for the newsletter to be posted each week, say 6PM PST. Then, everyone around the world would be able to login and read the newsletter at the same time and have the same chance. Even our collector friends overseas could wake up to read the newsletter and not have to stay up all night refreshing until it appeared!

[Bullseye]

Yeah, I bet there are and I have an idea on a couple. You should be mad at them because they screwed you more than SS. Calling SS liars is pretty much bull**** IMO.

Why should i be mad at people who got theirs fair and square. Look, SS pulled a fast one and theres no ifs buts or maybes. When this was up to order it was 3.00am here. It was around 10.00pm in NYC etc. I even waited up till 12.00 (normal time for Newsletter) but nothing.

[daelith]

In my eyes scalpers and flippers are different breeds. Scalpers buy with no intent whatsoever of keeping it. Flippers sometimes keep it but if the item rises in value they will consider flipping it to fund more collecting adventures. I said no "scalpers" got this piece, which is true - you guys have proven that most all of them went to faithful board members, which is a good thing IMO, whether they decide to flip later on or not!

Logic is flawed because:
1) A faithful board member could be faithful board member WHO IS a scalper.
2) That "faithful Board member" who is a scalper may have multiple sideshow accounts, which would exacerbate the situation.
3) A faithful board member who wasn't interested in the piece could see the ES and decide instantly that he would buy to sell would not be a scalper?

I'm sure there are additional points that can be made, but given that context, would you say your statement is still "mostly" true? Lotta room for error...

[Dusty]

Yes, but we are discussing the "Gray" Hulk, not the green. :peace

Sorry, I knew that was going to be mis-read :doh

I was responding to the fact that you said something about not looking at the Green Hulk exclusive page very thoroughly because you didn't want it to to sell out before you got your order in, and then by the time you realized the Gray was linked to on that page, it was too late the gray was sold out - I *meant* that that's why the edition size is TBD on the Green Hulk EX - so that no one would be rushed and could browse the page and look at all the pictures and make their choice, etc... that's all :)

[RoboDad]

It was posted at the same time on the SS site for everyone it can't get much easier or perfect than that.
If there had been a precedent for that mechanism, I would agree. But that is not the precedent they have established. For months and months, Sideshow has emphatically told us that the newsletter is the best way to be informed of all upcoming exclusive offers. To then change that paradigm with no warning, and use the website as the means to announce an additional exclusive, was not the best decision, and I can certainly understand people being upset about it.

[ResinDog]

I thought it would have been nice to have a gray light-up exclusive at 200 pieces.
A green light-up exclusive set at 400 pieces.
And the regular version set to around 1000 pieces.

I would consider myself part of the loyal customer base, with over $8000 US spent so far, and a lot more still to come. Yet somehow, I don't feel like I have been rewarded. :sick

[LOTRFan]

If there had been a precedent for that mechanism, I would agree. But that is not the precedent they have established. For months and months, Sideshow has emphatically told us that the newsletter is the best way to be informed of all upcoming exclusive offers. To then change that paradigm with no warning, and use the website as the means to announce an additional exclusive, was not the best decision, and I can certainly understand people being upset about it.

Very well put, I think you have expressed the main issue here; uniformity. At the very least, there could have been something in the newsletter from a week ago encouraging collectors to listen to the podcast.

[Viking28]

You know the funny thing is, most of the people that are complaining if they would of gotten one it would be "Sideshow better not update the edition size", "I paid more attention" blah blah blah. But the shoe is on the other foot and its the end of the world, "Sideshow betrayed me", "Sideshow slept with my wife", "Sideshow killed my dog" blah blah.

I missed the exclusive Obi figure.......o well it sucks but I'll get by, for those that dont collect the SW figures no big deal. To me it sucked but in no way did I blame Sideshow, you cant win them all.

I can't see how Sideshow could of done it any better than they did, for the past weeks its been appearing in our accounts Thursday nights or soon after the podcast was up. It just stands to reason that perhaps the newsletter will appear around the same time as before.
If they would of announced 50 gray hulks man every scalper in the world would of been there and hardly anybody from this forum or SF would of gotten one.

And to say that you know that 50% of those who got this are flippers is just wrong to say.

Grrrrr I better end this post before I offend a bunch of people but Sideshow is a collectible company and they make collectibles. Plain and simple.

[Viking28]

Logic is flawed because:
1) A faithful board member could be faithful board member WHO IS a scalper.
2) That "faithful Board member" who is a scalper may have multiple sideshow accounts, which would exacerbate the situation.
3) A faithful board member who wasn't interested in the piece could see the ES and decide instantly that he would buy to sell would not be a scalper?

I'm sure there are additional points that can be made, but given that context, would you say your statement is still "mostly" true? Lotta room for error...

To me that sounds like a lot of "what ifs".

[lcummins]

Sorry, I knew that was going to be mis-read :doh

I was responding to the fact that you said something about not looking at the Green Hulk exclusive page very thoroughly because you didn't want it to to sell out before you got your order in, and then by the time you realized the Gray was linked to on that page, it was too late the gray was sold out - I *meant* that that's why the edition size is TBD on the Green Hulk EX - so that no one would be rushed and could browse the page and look at all the pictures and make their choice, etc... that's all :)

Ok, I can understand that, but we have become conditioned to quickly clicking purchase because of recent sellouts, and the Gray Hulk is just a perfect example. I'm sure there are a few out there that were carefully reading the Green Hulk page and missed the Gray because they took too long.

[Bullseye]

You know the funny thing is, most of the people that are complaining if they would of gotten one it would be "Sideshow better not update the edition size", "I paided more attention" blah blah blah. But the shoe is on the other foot and its the end of the world, "Sideshow betrayed me", "Sideshow slept with my wife", "Sideshow killed my dog" blah blah.

I missed the exclusive Obi figure.......o well it sucks but I'll get by, for those that dont collect the SW figures no big deal. To me it sucked but in no way did I blame Sideshow, you cant win them all.

I can't see how Sideshow could of done it any better than they did, for the past weeks its been appearing in our accounts Thursday nights or soon after the podcast was up. It just stands to reason that perhaps the newsletter will appear around the same time as before.
If they would of announced 50 gray hulks man every scalper in the world would of been there and hardly anybody from this forum or SF would of gotten one.

And to say that you know that 50% of those who got this are flippers is just wrong to say.

Grrrrr I better end this post before I offend a bunch of people but Sideshow is a collectible company and they make collectibles. Plain and simple.

Viking how can you defend a 3.00am posting of this. I am a very reasonable person but i could never justify that time.

[Viking28]

12.00am Greenwich mean time - 7.00pm EST or 4.00 PST and around 10.00am in Sydney. This is the time previous exclusives have gone up and IMO the best time for everyone.


No thats not the best time for me so I disagree.

[Bullseye]

No thats not the best time for me so I disagree.

So becauce its an American based company the rest of us should be penalised.

[Shai]

Even if people decide to flip it .....who cares ..another fan will have it...the fact of the matter is that those who havnt got it were not there at the right time. Live with it.Period.When I missed the patient zero figure a couple months ago...I was mad ( I wanted this figure soooo bad..).I got to ebay and was happy 2 find a flipper there....Now if some people are crazy enough to buy a Baal-rog at 2500$ a piece...there will be others crazy enough to sell the grey hulk statue...

[Viking28]

Viking how can you defend a 3.00am posting of this. I am a very reasonable person but i could never justify that time.

Reason I can Bull is because they are a American company I use to collect a lot of import music ect ect. So I know what it is like trying to get stuff from overseas. But I wouldnt be able to ask a company to change their pre ordering times because it conflicted with my overseas time. Because well that's their location and stuff they release is going to be based on their location not mine.

[lcummins]

You know the funny thing is, most of the people that are complaining if they would of gotten one it would be "Sideshow better not update the edition size", "I paid more attention" blah blah blah. But the shoe is on the other foot and its the end of the world, "Sideshow betrayed me", "Sideshow slept with my wife", "Sideshow killed my dog" blah blah.

I missed the exclusive Obi figure.......o well it sucks but I'll get by, for those that dont collect the SW figures no big deal. To me it sucked but in no way did I blame Sideshow, you cant win them all.

I can't see how Sideshow could of done it any better than they did, for the past weeks its been appearing in our accounts Thursday nights or soon after the podcast was up. It just stands to reason that perhaps the newsletter will appear around the same time as before.
If they would of announced 50 gray hulks man every scalper in the world would of been there and hardly anybody from this forum or SF would of gotten one.

And to say that you know that 50% of those who got this are flippers is just wrong to say.

Grrrrr I better end this post before I offend a bunch of people but Sideshow is a collectible company and they make collectibles. Plain and simple.

I've never complained about the edition size (although I've questioned the wisdom of it). My main concern is that there is still no standard for a lot of these things (like when the newsletter is posted) and that is what ends up causing issues like this.

[Viking28]

So becauce its an American based company the rest of us should be penalised.

Im sorry but in a way yea, like in the above post I would expect that company to do things in their time zone rather than mine.

[Viking28]

I've never complained about the edition size (although I've questioned the wisdom of it). My main concern is that there is still no standard for a lot of these things (like when the newsletter is posted) and that is what ends up causing issues like this.

In that I agree L I think a time set in stone would be nice to know for the newsletter to be posted.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

If there had been a precedent for that mechanism, I would agree. But that is not the precedent they have established. For months and months, Sideshow has emphatically told us that the newsletter is the best way to be informed of all upcoming exclusive offers. To then change that paradigm with no warning, and use the website as the means to announce an additional exclusive, was not the best decision, and I can certainly understand people being upset about it.

Indeed. This was the first time that something like this happened, and I hope also the last time. I am not complaining about the low ES, but about the way the information on this was spread.

[Shai]

Hey Europe s'got Attakus, we got Sideshow...:p

[Bullseye]

Hey Europe s'got Attakus, we got Sideshow...:p

You have Attakus too.:rolleyes:

[lcummins]

In that I agree L I think a time set in stone would be nice to know for the newsletter to be posted.

Thanks. That's all I'm asking for. That would give everybody an equal shot at whatever they did; even putting the link on another product page like with the Gray Hulk. I'm not angry at Sideshow because I missed the Gray Hulk, I'm annoyed at Sideshow because the newsletter came out earlier than we have been lead to believe it will be posted. :peace

[Gruson]

Hey Europe s'got Attakus, we got Sideshow...:p

Actually, at one point they did sell some of the rare pieces (after they were sold out) to UK customers only.

I was pretty upset because I was ready to order and could have gotten Maul and Stormtrooper but they would not ship to USA...<sigh>. They were gone in minutes.

It happens.

[Shai]

Reason I can Bull is because they are a American company I use to collect a lot of import music ect ect. So I know what it is like trying to get stuff from overseas. But I wouldnt be able to ask a company to change their pre ordering times because it conflicted with my overseas time. Because well that's their location and stuff they release is going to be based on their location not mine.

Gotta agree with Viking,Sideshow bread and butter are with their U.S.COLLECTORS.. its the European market who has to adjust ...

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Hey Europe s'got Attakus, we got Sideshow...:p

http://www.america.attakus.com/ ;)

[Bullseye]

Gotta agree with Viking,Sideshow bread and butter are with their U.S.COLLECTORS.. its the European market who has to adjust ...

What i Gods name does this mean. :banghead

[Shai]

http://www.america.attakus.com/ ;)

Funny, Alice after you post that link, I'VE NOTICED THAT ATTAKUS AMERICA IS LOCATED 10 MIN OF MY HOMETOWN....HERE IN QUEBEC...:horror

WELL I GUESS IM A LUCKY BASTARD....

[ResinDog]

I missed the exclusive Obi figure.......o well it sucks but I'll get by, for those that dont collect the SW figures no big deal. To me it sucked but in no way did I blame Sideshow, you cant win them all.
Sorry Viking but that's a very unfair comparison. You were made well aware of when the Obi-Wan exclusive was going up for pre-order (which, btw, I also missed and blame no one but myself), unlike the Hulk vs Spider-Man. If you were too slow, or unlucky enough to miss out, then there's not much you can do about it. At least you were given the opportunity.

The way I see it, I don't think anybody here is saying that the gray version needed to be announced at all, just that it would have been nice to know when the exclusive, in general, was going to be put up for sale. The early birds who are lucky enough to stumble upon the top secret gray version get a top piece but at least everyone had a fair chance.

And if you wanted to slow the mad rush and greedy scalpers, perhaps Sideshow could just state that the exclusive ES is TBD, as they are doing that a lot lately. Under these circumstances, I would feel that I was given an equal opportunity, no matter what time it was. And if I still missed out, would be completely gracious in defeat. :peace

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Funny, Alice after you post that link, I'VE NOTICED THAT ATTAKUS AMERICA IS LOCATED 10 MIN OF MY HOMETOWN....HERE IN QUEBEC...:horror

WELL I GUESS IM A LUCKY BASTARD....


Some Shaihulud's have all the luck!!!



[Viking28]

Sorry Viking but that's a very unfair comparison. You were made well aware of when the Obi-Wan exclusive was going up for pre-order (which, btw, I also missed and blame no one but myself), unlike the Hulk vs Spider-Man. If you were too slow, or unlucky enough to miss out, then there's not much you can do about it. At least you were given the opportunity.


To me I choose to stay up and wait a little while longer and I have to get up around 2am for work. I could of missed out on the Gray guy but I stayed up and kept checking my account for the newsletter because I wanted this bad. And it paid off. Didnt get much sleep but hey thats the price I paid.

[SolidLiquidFox]

I agree with some of you here. I hope this Gray Hulk experience sets some consistency on the newsletter.

I agree a set time for the letter to be posted is the best way to go about these things. Announce Hulk Vs Spidey to be available for preorder in the newsletter and include all links to all versions up front. It's bad enough to guess the distribution of the newsletter to then after that play scavenger hunt.

Either that or create a priority opportunity raffle order. Accept 500 orders and then choose 50 orders at random.

Whatever happens, let's not argue amongst each other about this. It's clear feelings are still hurt over the whole thing. The word "gray" may never be the same for some in here...

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Sorry Viking but that's a very unfair comparison. You were made well aware of when the Obi-Wan exclusive was going up for pre-order (which, btw, I also missed and blame no one but myself), unlike the Hulk vs Spider-Man. If you were too slow, or unlucky enough to miss out, then there's not much you can do about it. At least you were given the opportunity.

The way I see it, I don't think anybody here is saying that the gray version needed to be announced at all, just that it would have been nice to know when the exclusive, in general, was going to be put up for sale. The early birds who are lucky enough to stumble upon the top secret gray version get a top piece but at least everyone had a fair chance.

And if you wanted to slow the mad rush and greedy scalpers, perhaps Sideshow could just state that the exclusive ES is TBD, as they are doing that a lot lately. Under these circumstances, I would feel that I was given an equal opportunity, no matter what time it was. And if I still missed out, would be completely gracious in defeat. :peace

Let's settle it there. Exactly what I'm thinking.



[lcummins]

...I could of missed out on the Gray guy but I stayed up and kept checking my account for the newsletter because I wanted this bad...

But we didn't even know about it. How could you have wanted it?

[daelith]

And if you wanted to slow the mad rush and greedy scalpers, perhaps Sideshow could just state that the exclusive ES is TBD, as they are doing that a lot lately. Under these circumstances, I would feel that I was given an equal opportunity, no matter what time it was. And if I still missed out, would be completely gracious in defeat. :peace

Exactly what I was thinking...TBD; they know from experience it works, yet they implemented this crazy scheme anyhow =/

[ResinDog]

The word "gray" may never be the same for some in here...
It's become a very gray area. :D

[Viking28]

First the podcast gave a clue BUT I just wanted the exclusive piece period!

[Bullseye]

First the podcast gave a clue BUT I just wanted the exclusive piece period!

What is podcast?

[lcummins]

First the podcast gave a clue BUT I just wanted the exclusive piece period!

Ok, I figured you meant the exclusive in general; just making sure! :wacky

[Viking28]

What is podcast?

Sideshow Radio.

[Viking28]

Ok, I figured you meant the exclusive in general; just making sure! :wacky

Yea I just wanted to make sure I got the exclusive period.

[creecher]

I have dial up, so the podcast takes too long to download. Its great if you have broadband. Oh gawd, what's dial up you say. :banghead

Okay, I'm going to have to upgrade soon, but that will mean more Sideshow stuff I wont be able to buy. :banghead

[Bullseye]

Sideshow Radio.

Don't tell me i have to listen to radio to hear about exclusive.:confused:

[tomandshell]

At the end of the podcast section advertising the upcoming preorder for Hulk vs. Spider-Man, they said this:

"The first webslingers to priority preorder the awesome battle diorama will be treated to a very special dilemma indeed. Eeny meany miney moe, we are not letting any more information go."

That sounded mysterious and interesting enough to me to stick around. A few of us did guess correctly what was going to happen.

I bet it's just the light up feature or grey hulk :D

it seems like there will be two different exclusive versions

We were talking about this (and vowing to stay up to find out) hours before it went on sale.

[lcummins]

At the end of the podcast section advertising the upcoming preorder for Hulk vs. Spider-Man, they said this:



That sounded mysterious and interesting enough to me to stick around. A few of us did guess correctly what was going to happen.





We were talking about this (and vowing to stay up to find out) hours before it went on sale.

True, and I caught that hint and highly anticipated more than one possible exclusive, but I did not anticipate the small edition size or the early arrival of the newsletter.

[The Josh]

But it could get better; set a standard time for the newsletter to be posted each week, say 6PM PST. Then, everyone around the world would be able to login and read the newsletter at the same time and have the same chance. Even our collector friends overseas could wake up to read the newsletter and not have to stay up all night refreshing until it appeared!

I agree with you that a dedicated set time would be perfect. However, it's been going up right around the same time the last 2-3 weeks.

Why should i be mad at people who got theirs fair and square. Look, SS pulled a fast one and theres no ifs buts or maybes. When this was up to order it was 3.00am here. It was around 10.00pm in NYC etc. I even waited up till 12.00 (normal time for Newsletter) but nothing.

I'm saying be mad at those that will flip it or scalp it. They are to blame more than SS. Pulled a fast one? Give me a ******* break. They gave you clues in the pod cast if you took the time to look at SS site.

If there had been a precedent for that mechanism, I would agree. But that is not the precedent they have established. For months and months, Sideshow has emphatically told us that the newsletter is the best way to be informed of all upcoming exclusive offers. To then change that paradigm with no warning, and use the website as the means to announce an additional exclusive, was not the best decision, and I can certainly understand people being upset about it.

The podcast gave you a clue to wait on your newsletter which pretty much stays status quo though IMO.

You know the funny thing is, most of the people that are complaining if they would of gotten one it would be "Sideshow better not update the edition size", "I paid more attention" blah blah blah. But the shoe is on the other foot and its the end of the world, "Sideshow betrayed me", "Sideshow slept with my wife", "Sideshow killed my dog" blah blah.

I missed the exclusive Obi figure.......o well it sucks but I'll get by, for those that dont collect the SW figures no big deal. To me it sucked but in no way did I blame Sideshow, you cant win them all.

I can't see how Sideshow could of done it any better than they did, for the past weeks its been appearing in our accounts Thursday nights or soon after the podcast was up. It just stands to reason that perhaps the newsletter will appear around the same time as before.
If they would of announced 50 gray hulks man every scalper in the world would of been there and hardly anybody from this forum or SF would of gotten one.

And to say that you know that 50% of those who got this are flippers is just wrong to say.

Grrrrr I better end this post before I offend a bunch of people but Sideshow is a collectible company and they make collectibles. Plain and simple.

I'm with ya Viking.

Viking how can you defend a 3.00am posting of this. I am a very reasonable person but i could never justify that time.

I can defend it real easy they put it up at the best time for everyone as has been said they are an American Company. So should SS meet your specific needs on time? Are you that special?

So becauce its an American based company the rest of us should be penalised.

Not penalised but you have to understand that the times they go up will fit more within the US time zones.

Reason I can Bull is because they are a American company I use to collect a lot of import music ect ect. So I know what it is like trying to get stuff from overseas. But I wouldnt be able to ask a company to change their pre ordering times because it conflicted with my overseas time. Because well that's their location and stuff they release is going to be based on their location not mine.

Yup

Don't tell me i have to listen to radio to hear about exclusive.:confused:

It's just a little effort to try and maybe get some info you might need.

[Fritz]

"The first webslingers to priority preorder the awesome battle diorama will be treated to a very special dilemma indeed. Eeny meany miney moe, we are not letting any more information go."

LMAO. I listened to the podcase twice and didn't even notice that. That's why it's important to not only listen but to pay attention and hear what's being said. :doh

[tomandshell]

LMAO. I listened to the podcase twice and didn't even notice that. That's why it's important to not only listen but to pay attention and hear what's being said. :doh

I was kind of half-listening, and that little bit made my ears perk up. I rewound it and listened to it again a few times and started wondering what was up. That was yesterday, when the collecting world was a much calmer place.

[SolidLiquidFox]

LMAO. I listened to the podcase twice and didn't even notice that. That's why it's important to not only listen but to pay attention and hear what's being said. :doh

Her voice is just too sexy...people just can't concentrate! :rolleyes:

[Dusty]

I certainly don't think this is about collectors. I've faithfully followed the Marvel line since it's inception and was hoping to continue my exclusive streak. With an ES of 50, it's less about rewarding your customer base than trying to build buzz when they DO get flipped. Trying to avoid flippers? Please..with such an EXTREME ES of 50 you're COUNTING on people to flip it to generate press and build some credibility in the secondary market--where up until this point--prices have been languishing. With a more moderate ES, say 100-200, it still would've sold out AND collectors would have been satisfied. But like I said, it's all bout the buzz.

And then there's the notion that the newsletter will offer readers a fair shot at the item...

And perhaps Dusty is sincere, but it's in my nature to question authority.

*sigh* Yes, you have discovered our secret - we are corporate b****rds who just like to torture our fanbase - we'll stop the cover-up charade as of now - no more contests just for the fun of it because we're in a good mood - and don't worry, we'll stop bothering you here on the boards too - your message has been received.







(just kidding, we really do love you guys, even when you're mad at us for something - we're in it for the long haul, and every relationship has it's peaks and valleys - don't freak out! :D :duff)

[Azog]

I'm not mad! Sideshow Rocks on every account, good and bad!

[SolidLiquidFox]

Sideshow is a great company. Glad to be able to afford some of these incredible pieces.

Keep them coming! :naughty

[The Josh]

Sideshow Rocks

Ditto!!:banana

[Darklord Dave]

See, now you've pissed off Dusty - she doesn't like to have her authority questioned!

:rolleyes:

Seriously, I agree that this will be a great marketing tool. Look at the buzz it's generated here and at SF. People complained before about huge edition sizes and laughed at the "collectible" tag. Well, they instantly redeemed that reputation with this stunt. And it is a "stunt" but in a good way.

Aside from the time the newsletter went up, it couldn't have been more fair. And what time would be fair to every single collector on earth and be administratable for SSC? I understand that non-US collectors are put out by it, but that is the nature of the hobby - not everyone will be able to get one.

[Shai]

[QUOTE=SideshowDusty and every relationship has it's peaks and valleys - don't freak out! :D :duff)[/QUOTE]


mmmmmmm..Dusty talking about ''peaks and valleys''...wonder if she was talking about hers...:naughty

[tomandshell]

mmmmmmm..Dusty talking about ''peaks and valleys''...wonder if she was talking about hers...:naughty


Hold on there, you may not realize that you are no longer posting in the OMG thread...

[Shai]

Hold on there, you may not realize that you are no longer posting in the OMG thread...

Tell that to Dusty......lollll

[Fritz]

...Seriously, I agree that this will be a great marketing tool. Look at the buzz it's generated here and at SF...

This is a pretty good buzz. If you want to see people start passing out and leaping off buildings, they should try doing the same thing with a Star Wars item. :wacky

[SolidLiquidFox]

This is a pretty good buzz. If you want to see people start passing out and leaping off buildings, they should try doing the same thing with a Star Wars item. :wacky

They would not dare do that with a SW fan. May be a LOTR fan but NEVER a SW fan. Pitch forks and torches by nightfall at SS headquarters for sure. :horror

[elwood49]

This is a pretty good buzz. If you want to see people start passing out and leaping off buildings, they should try doing the same thing with a Star Wars item. :wacky

Yes, please try it!!! I love stuff like this that is truly a special addition to the collection.

How about much talked about Lobot with an ES of 50?! ;)

[Gruson]

Yes, please try it!!! I love stuff like this that is truly a special addition to the collection.

How about much talked about Lobot with an ES of 50?! ;)

That would rock! Bring on Lobot.

Yeah, people would really go crazy if it was a LOTR or Star Wars item. ;)

[The Josh]

If they wanna do a Lobot like that go ahead. I would pass for sure on him. LOL

[SolidLiquidFox]

If they wanna do a Lobot like that go ahead. I would pass for sure on him. LOL

He is limited to 25 units and only found on a super-secret link in the "World of Froud" (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=froudhome&source=leftnav&kw=WORLD_OF_FROUD) section of the Sideshow website. Lord knows nobody will find it there.

[The Josh]

He is limited to 25 units and only found on a super-secret link in the "World of Froud" (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=froudhome&source=leftnav&kw=WORLD_OF_FROUD) section of the Sideshow website. Lord knows nobody will find it there.

:mwaha :mwaha :mwaha

[pitchin]

At the end of the day, the clues to the possibility of a uber-limited Hulk were there to be found. I found them & I usually log off around 12 midnight but deliberately stayed up the extra time (ask Tomandshell about how tired I was :D )

[Viking28]

I hear you pitchin there was a couple times I got up a walked away from the PC. But thought I better wait.....

[Shai]

From sf.....imagine how people had react if THIS was the 50-piece exclusive....:horror

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/kingshaihulud/HulkvsSpidey.jpg

[TheWitchKing]

Doubt that is anyway accurate with the comic books but Id definetly go for one of those. :google