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shandy_man
09-11-2009, 11:16 PM
Terminator Salvation: 1/6th scale John Connor collectible figure (Final Battle Version)

Product code: MMS111


Hot Toys proudly presents our latest MMS figure from the Terminator Salvation 1/6th scale lineup - John Connor collectible figure (Final Battle ver.). This collectible figure stands approximately 30 cm tall, featuring Hot Toys True-type figure body with over 36 points of articulation.

This John Connor figure features the high quality head sculpture (by Kojun) with battle damaged face, perfect painting (by JC Hong) and authentic Christian Bale likeness.

The Final Battle version also newly comes with a battle-damaged endoskeleton featured base and also a 1/6th scale fully articulated Hydrobot with light up function.

The highly detailed collectible also comes with the following full gear and weapons:

+ Uniform
- Field jacket
- Pants
- T-shirt
- Tactical belt
- Tactical vest
- Backpack

+ Accessories
- Headset
- Radio with pouch
- Pistol Magazine pouch
- Shoulder pad
- Drop leg panels
- Grenades with holder
- Armband
- Tactical gloves
- Assault boots

+ Weapons
- HK416 with tactical red dot sight
- M203 grenade launcher with elastic sling
- Pistol with holster

Release date: Q4, 2009

Artists:
Head Sculpt by Kojun
Paint by J.C Hong

Terminator Salvation ™ & © 2009 T Asset Acquisition Company, LLC.


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shandy_man
09-11-2009, 11:22 PM
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laudanum09
09-11-2009, 11:23 PM
BASTARDS!!!!

I'll probably grab just grab the head off of ebay to have two display options. the hydrobot is really cool, but I'm not digging the new outfit too much.

Voorhees27
09-11-2009, 11:25 PM
Wow that looks pretty damn cool!

Biojex
09-11-2009, 11:25 PM
oh wow awesome...i will try to get this. dang that hydrobot looks good.

shandy_man
09-11-2009, 11:27 PM
Overall I think this looks great, would have been neat if they threw in a regular Connor head incase someone wanted to display him without the scars. This will probably be the last piece for me in the T4 line if they do plan on doing other figures. I can also assume the UX UMPC will be an exlcusive piece after all since I'm not seeing it in these pics.

FACEBOX
09-11-2009, 11:31 PM
I'll get this for the Terminator base and Hydrobot.
The rest will be sold. I have no interest in this version of Connor. :o

Anyone want a cheap loose JC? :lol

kl241
09-11-2009, 11:32 PM
BAD ASS!!! :rock

A.L.I.E.N
09-11-2009, 11:44 PM
Wicked Cool! :lol Hydro looks epic! I can continue my crusade to own every Skynet Model of Terminator in 1/6th! (BAR SOME :()

shocktrooper_au
09-11-2009, 11:46 PM
Well this is my 1st experience with HT. lesson #1 never buy the 1st release as the 2nd version always has more accessories

darthviper107
09-11-2009, 11:47 PM
That's pretty cool, I think I'll either get this or Marcus

Nocturne
09-11-2009, 11:48 PM
Thats why I waited after seeing that sneak shot, glad I did now :D

thought he wore a black jacket at the end of the movie though ?

Predanator
09-11-2009, 11:56 PM
:rotfl Sold. That's the version I'm buying. I'm glad I got Marcus first. How cool is that Hydrobot and diorama base!!

plasmid303
09-12-2009, 12:10 AM
Thoughts:

*practically the same head sculpt in regards to the expression. Would've like a different expression.
*is the jacket on the figure not black? The movie outfit is full black, right?
*the scarring on john's cheek is shaped like the letter "Y". I never noticed that before now. I'm assuming that is accurate to the film.

*most important to me: This figure is the better value (ostensibly) compared to the first. I'll probably buy both.

OMG
09-12-2009, 12:17 AM
I hate those stupid Toyworld's logo :maul

Wookster ~~ give us the "clean" official photo please !!! :banana

shandy_man
09-12-2009, 12:18 AM
well if you look closely in this picture, so can see it's green, but yeah I thought it was black as well

http://www.vandegoor.com/beta/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/christian_bale_stars_as_john_connor_in_warner_bros _pictures_action_sci-fi_feature_terminator_salvation_l.jpg

plasmid303
09-12-2009, 12:22 AM
Oh okay, the movie jacket looks faintly green-ish, cool.

I prefer this outfit to the one John wears in the first half of the film. This one is more spiritually reminiscent of the future Resistance outfits from the old Cameron Terminator movies.

Biojex
09-12-2009, 12:31 AM
i love the (what looks like) grenade rounds on his forearm. too cool

Sined
09-12-2009, 12:32 AM
Really disappointed that this one has the old headsculpt.

Wanderer
09-12-2009, 12:51 AM
Its ok but not as striking as v1. Outfit doesn't grab me as much. I'd just go for the head on ebay. That hydrobot thing will go for crazy prices. Frankly i'm not that bothered about TS to care about all these variants. I'm happy with the 2 versions of the 600's i've got/getting and maybe either Marcus or Connor v1. I'm done with this line tbh. Film was crap

-=LoneWolf=-
09-12-2009, 12:53 AM
i like it! didn't think they would include the grenade launcher which is why i got one on ebay... but oh well

one comment though... they should give us XM-26 shotgun magazine for the dropleg pouch instead of the M4 magazines

it's a smart move for them to give this one the HK416 as well cos it's supposed to go with the first figure. early shots of connor mostly had the M4/XM-26 combo which is why i think they went for it first

etht26
09-12-2009, 12:53 AM
man, there's just way to many versions of terminator salvation... i'm not liking this figure as it looks like the original head sculpt with some scars on the face. what i don't understand is that the face is damage but nothing else is???? mmmmh interesting. the base looks cool though.

Thrustmaster
09-12-2009, 12:59 AM
Now I after saw this pics, I'm not even digging the headsculpt. :horror
It looks really weird here. I'm looking at my JC and how amazing this headsculpt is, and again at the v2 and I'm not seeing Bale in there. Outfit of V1 is way better, so I'm going to pass on the v2 for sure. Hope this Connor will be part out in every single pieces at ebay, so I could get the granades-amo from his left arm. It would look cool at my v1, after his arm is so naked there :D And Hydrobot would look nice and it should have been an accesoire for the v1. As for the scarface, I'll wait for the next movie, to have then the "ultimate" John Connor from the future-battle, so V1 will represent him from 2018.

Cool that some of you like V2 and will get him, but I'm really pleased with V1. Glad that V2 is not impressing me that much. :D

stupotnoodle
09-12-2009, 01:08 AM
seeing as i held of on the v1 i might just pick this one up, because after seeing the pics of marcus aswell i think i need them to batter the t700 standing on the shelf

The Entity
09-12-2009, 01:22 AM
Woa, this figure looks awesome!!! I think this outfit looks better than the V1 outfit, but that's just my opinion.
The Hydrobot looks great, so does the base!!! :rock

The only downside is that with all the Hot Toys goodness being released, I'm not sure if I will be able to buy this guy :(

The Tuggernaut
09-12-2009, 01:23 AM
This looks awesome! :rock I'll definitely be getting this version as well.

Antronus
09-12-2009, 01:24 AM
I'll get this for the Terminator base and Hydrobot.
The rest will be sold. I have no interest in this version of Connor. :o

Anyone want a cheap loose JC? :lol

Man why waste a lot of money buying the whole set just for the hydrobot and base. Just buy the parts from evilbay.

From looking at the figure, yeah it looks good, the hydrobot is excellent without doubt. But this is rare that the V1 figure is still by far superior to this new 2nd version!

King Darkness
09-12-2009, 01:25 AM
DAMN IT!

I was hoping this would suck ass.

Sadly it doesnt :(

It looks freaking GREAT! Gonna have to pick it up :rock

tylerdurden
09-12-2009, 01:27 AM
not dissing this version of connor, but ultimately, i think the best thing about it is the hydrobot.

Thrustmaster
09-12-2009, 01:39 AM
Man why waste a lot of money buying the whole set just for the hydrobot and base. Just buy the parts from evilbay.

From looking at the figure, yeah it looks good, the hydrobot is excellent without doubt. But this is rare that the V1 figure is still by far superior to this new 2nd version!

V2 has really more accesoirces, he had 2 big guns, the hydrobot, the new stand with a T-600 and so on. But if you're only comparing the figure with it's outfit, you're right. V1 is by far better than this. I only don't understand why HT give the V2 this superior stand and not with the V1. Why don't we always get those extra-stands?

But there is still something I'm missing in the bundle of accesoirces of the V2.

http://f20.yahoofs.com/hkblog/Arbf8eaGHxp5iPfSI1TWwD7k_41/blog/ap_20090908094209218.jpg?ib_____DkT5p2lOb

:horror

Dinosoar Daz
09-12-2009, 02:01 AM
THIS IS AWESOME. Love the scarring on this scupt. The base is pretty amazing too. I wonder how much more the VIP version will cost?

dcflake
09-12-2009, 02:03 AM
I I so want this now even though I have v1 The light up hyrdobot is so cooland looks huge i wonder if they redo the packages for the figures.

FACEBOX
09-12-2009, 02:06 AM
Man why waste a lot of money buying the whole set just for the hydrobot and base. Just buy the parts from evilbay.

From looking at the figure, yeah it looks good, the hydrobot is excellent without doubt. But this is rare that the V1 figure is still by far superior to this new 2nd version!

Because I'm sure that loose Hydrobots will go for $70+ shipping.
Add the base to that and you're looking at the same expense as the entire figure. At least if I get the entire set, I can sell Connor to get some money back.

OMG
09-12-2009, 02:11 AM
Just call Toyhunters, the retail of this JC.FBV is $1350HKD pre-order, the most expensive HT figure yet! My god :horror expect close to $200 USD or even more :banghead

FACEBOX
09-12-2009, 02:13 AM
Just call Toyhunters, the retail of this JC.FBV is $1350HKD pre-order, the most expensive HT figure yet! My god :horror expect close to $200 USD or even more :banghead

Really?
Isn't that regular price? ($135-150)

Thrustmaster
09-12-2009, 02:14 AM
Just call Toyhunters, the retail of this JC.FBV is $1350HKD pre-order, the most expensive HT figure yet! My god :horror expect close to $200 USD or even more :banghead

after reading this, your nickname is my answer mate: OMG :horror
but it is understandable, the hydrobot is really awesome and really big. And the stand is also well done with some T-600 parts on it.

FACEBOX
09-12-2009, 02:17 AM
$174.18 USD.... hmmm.
That is a bit steep. :whip

King Darkness
09-12-2009, 02:18 AM
If thats accurate, it will be a pass for me.

Chouzi
09-12-2009, 03:04 AM
sigh...i'm sold again... time to do more budgeting~! bleh

stupotnoodle
09-12-2009, 03:11 AM
the price does seem a bit steep, and the uniform definately doesnt look as kool as v1 uniform, but im sure if im a bit tight wiv xmas this year itl be a purchase from me lol

Antronus
09-12-2009, 03:18 AM
Because I'm sure that loose Hydrobots will go for $70+ shipping.
Add the base to that and you're looking at the same expense as the entire figure. At least if I get the entire set, I can sell Connor to get some money back.

Point taken, probably it will be a very popular loose item.

OMG
09-12-2009, 03:20 AM
after reading this, your nickname is my answer mate: OMG :horror
but it is understandable, the hydrobot is really awesome and really big. And the stand is also well done with some T-600 parts on it.

Look at Marcus, for $950 ($882 VIP pro-order) you get leather jacket/long coat/rubber arms/2 heads/3 pairs of hands/weapon. Some people will only want the figure or hydrobot, I myself couldn't care less about hydrobot, it will be nice if they sell them separately.

Wolverine $1050, DX Batman/MJ $1150, IM BD $1250 ... HT r u nuts?:rotfl

Centrocal
09-12-2009, 03:35 AM
http://www.imfdb.org/images/4/47/T4-53.jpg

YES! When i first saw this movie and saw those grenade shells on his arm, I thought that was the coolest thing EVER!!! I know its a terrible place to put grenades, if you get shot in the arm, your arm is gone !:lol I dont care It looks badass. And he's got the backpack and the M203 Launcher and HK416 and the Hydrobot:google

When i saw the first pics of the Hydrobot I thought it was gonna be a PVC, with maybe just one joint, BUT NO! HOT TOYS WENT ALL OUT LIKE ALWAYS! :D
The whole damn thing is articulated and has light up eyes and opening mouth. This is just stupid detail. Then they throw in the base and scar headsculpt :monkey2

uscmhicks
09-12-2009, 03:37 AM
Its cool but I think I prefer the first version. I'll probably just pick up the base for this. I'd never use the hydrobot with him so I wouldn't know how to pose it anyway. It would look a little out of place just on the side.

Thrustmaster
09-12-2009, 03:52 AM
YES! When i first saw this movie and saw those grenade shells on his arm, I thought that was the coolest thing EVER!!! I know its a terrible place to put grenades, if you get shot in the arm, your arm is gone !:lol I dont care It looks badass.

Haha, I thought the same when I saw those grenade shells :D Can't wait to put them on my JC v1. Don't care if it's not accurate, it just looks cool :D

aslan_gfx
09-12-2009, 03:58 AM
I'm happy I waited... the base looks very nice and Connor got more Stuff :)

Numinor
09-12-2009, 04:03 AM
JC 2.0 looks cool but i like More JC 1.0, i wish HT did it like Marcus Wright the Clean and Battle Version in One Box. :(

jutty
09-12-2009, 04:18 AM
i just like the base and the bot,,think i really prefer the V1 ( only cause i got it pre ordered already),and i dont wanna go and fork out more cash for a different version.
I think either would be worthwhile to have.maybe that V2 base should have been with the V1 connor

Centrocal
09-12-2009, 04:19 AM
Yeah a 2 in 1 would be cool but they probably would had to cut back on the accessories, like all the ammo/explosives V1 comes with. Both costumes are a must have for me.

I think the Hydrobot should have come with Marcus Wright, since he's the one you see fighting it. Its gonna look so cool wrapped around him , will make an epic display piece.

Its weird how they planed the accessories all out so you gotta get all of them, hydrobot goes with Marcus, HK416 goes with V1, XM-23 goes with V2 , Shot gun goes with Kyle Reese...(:monkey3)

Thrustmaster
09-12-2009, 04:28 AM
http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_01bc4c6f59375cd1e2efeoiOBzS9EJVu.jpg

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_bbe50e36b7097f9e55c1TkAj9y7YLLJp.jpg

is it just me or is the head a bit weird in those pics. it looks really small compared to the height of the body.

MarrowMan
09-12-2009, 04:33 AM
damn does JC 2 look fricken cool. must have.

Hydeous
09-12-2009, 04:52 AM
I'm prolly just gonna get the hydrobot. Have no use of another jc, or the base. Plus those scars and blood effect just doesn't look good IMO

King Darkness
09-12-2009, 05:45 AM
is it just me or is the head a bit weird in those pics. it looks really small compared to the height of the body.

Shoulders look really wide, which is making the head look small.

Deckard
09-12-2009, 05:51 AM
This looks cool, good thing I didn't get the V.1 just yet.

So OT but does anyone think we may get a Kyle Reese?

jutty
09-12-2009, 06:09 AM
kyle Reese, that would be a nice addition

Agen
09-12-2009, 06:10 AM
Thoughts:

*is the jacket on the figure not black? The movie outfit is full black, right?

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9595/hrterminatorsalvation33.jpg

Hydeous
09-12-2009, 06:11 AM
Don't want a prepubescent kyle man. I'd rather wait for the next termie installment, and have a grown up kyle.

MarrowMan
09-12-2009, 06:41 AM
Don't want a prepubescent kyle man. I'd rather wait for the next termie installment, and have a grown up kyle.

I Thought kyle was at least 16 or 17 at the time of T:S?

Morbach
09-12-2009, 07:55 AM
Finally glad to see pics! This thing is mine!!!:rock :rock :rock Love it.

snoop101
09-12-2009, 08:17 AM
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ChaserFan
09-12-2009, 08:21 AM
I am amazed at this figure! It's much better than the one in those pics I posted in May! I can't believe we're getting a 1/6th scale hydrobot! WOOT! And don't start dissing it just yet; just like JC1 & Marcus, there will be HS changes for sure.
But I am so pumped right now!!!!

snoop101
09-12-2009, 08:31 AM
I Thought kyle was at least 16 or 17 at the time of T:S?

Kyle was 16 in terminator salvation.

wookster
09-12-2009, 08:31 AM
He looks great, fantastic details loving the shoulder keypad and the Hydrobot is the icing and cherry on top!
Any ideas on price yet, with the Hydro-bot I can see this being a tad bit more expensive.

snoop101
09-12-2009, 08:34 AM
I am amazed at this figure! It's much better than the one in those pics I posted in May! I can't believe we're getting a 1/6th scale hydrobot! WOOT! And don't start dissing it just yet; just like JC1 & Marcus, there will be HS changes for sure.
But I am so pumped right now!!!!

I dont think they will do a headsculpt change for this one, since they used the same sculpt from the first JC. This probably saves hot toys loads of money doing it this way. And there never was headsculpt changes for JC.

boochydog
09-12-2009, 08:43 AM
i like it - will probably pick it up. i am also impressed with the number of responses to this thread already.

ChaserFan
09-12-2009, 08:49 AM
I dont think they will do a headsculpt change for this one, since they used the same sculpt from the first JC. This probably saves hot toys loads of money doing it this way. And there never was headsculpt changes for JC.

In terms of the scars they will; people b****ing about how they're not accurate. HT revises nearly all their headsculpts before release.

wofford29
09-12-2009, 08:51 AM
no improved head sculpt = no thanks

EndIessRAlN
09-12-2009, 08:51 AM
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9595/hrterminatorsalvation33.jpg

Why did they hang the innocent T-600? They should have hung McG instead! :lol

This new Connor is sooooooo bought! I can't believe how much above my expectation this figure turned out to be. WOW!:google

El Roranous
09-12-2009, 08:54 AM
Well this is my 1st experience with HT. lesson #1 never buy the 1st release as the 2nd version always has more accessories

Yup, Hot Toys is always re-releasing another variant of the same figures. It's turned me off of collecting their products. After the 13th Joker variant I think it's about time. :lol :monkey4

boochydog
09-12-2009, 09:12 AM
i could see posing this figure in this pose, although i wish the headsculpt had this smirk. :)

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=5383

Centrocal
09-12-2009, 09:16 AM
Hot Toys needs to darken the color of the jacket. It should be more of a faded canvas color instead of green.

EndIessRAlN
09-12-2009, 09:21 AM
Hot Toys needs to darken the color of the jacket. It should be more of a faded canvas color instead of green.

May just be the intense lighting the photographer for Hot Toys uses. I bet it would be much darker in person.

Wor-Gar
09-12-2009, 09:22 AM
Well this is my 1st experience with HT. lesson #1 never buy the 1st release as the 2nd version always has more accessories

Yep. Thus endeth the lesson.

a-dev
09-12-2009, 09:56 AM
Surprised to see this thread wasn't started by Wookster but well done Shandy Man.

This is bought by me. I don't really care that the head is very similar to V1, the fresh cuts on the face are cool. The head kinda does look small but I'm sure it'll be no more so than the first head.

Outfit and accessories look incredible.

Toast
09-12-2009, 10:31 AM
I definitely like the clothes on the first one way better but these accessories and the base are awesome!

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 10:46 AM
I'm surprised people are talking about the whole never buy the first one thing, I really don't see this as outdoing the first, you're stuck with the scarred head, or spending another $50+ on eBay to get the clean one, because that's what folks'll charge for it now, the costume is extremely different, the only "improvements are a more fitting base and the hydrobot, but the John himself is about equal to the first to me.

I think it looks great, but I wish the scarring would be more deep as it was in the film.

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/still/terminator_salvation102.jpg

Also, new TR Blog shots.

http://f20.yahoofs.com/hkblog/Arbf8eaGHxp5iPfSI1TWwD7k_41/blog/ap_20090912121119954.jpg?TTAeYrKBubwAHxIH

http://f20.yahoofs.com/hkblog/Arbf8eaGHxp5iPfSI1TWwD7k_41/blog/ap_20090912121131642.jpg?ib_____DCQLWfAKS

a-dev
09-12-2009, 10:58 AM
Well, as I said before, I have no problem owning 2 of the same character however I suppose I can see where people would wish that Hot Toys would announce in advance the figures they intend to make. This would have allowed the people who preferred the outfit from later in the film to wait for that version knowing that it was on the way instead of buying version 1 "just in case". Also the gun mix-up is annoying if you have no wish to buy both versions.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 11:08 AM
The upside is it has a Q4 release, which I believe they can meet, the sculpt looks the same just with a painted scar on it, costume doesn't seem as complex as v1, this figure looks about Marcus level and he was just about on time.

snoop101
09-12-2009, 11:13 AM
The upside is it has a Q4 release, which I believe they can meet, the sculpt looks the same just with a painted scar on it, costume doesn't seem as complex as v1, this figure looks about Marcus level and he was just about on time.

I hope they meet that release date also. I cant wait to have this figure. My only question is, where is the pda?

EDIT: Why does JC need sploches of blood on his face?

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 11:17 AM
I hope they meet that release date also. I cant wait to have this figure. My only question is, where is the pda?

EDIT: Why does JC need sploches of blood on his face?

I'd say not seeing the PDA in those shots confirms it's a Toy Hunters Ex., hopefully it'll also be a Sideshow Exclusive, this figure will probably be hinted in this weeks newsletter and go up for sale next week.

As for the blood splotches, havent seen T:S since it came out, but there's probably some there and it adds to him looking beat up, I'm fine with them.

D4rkShaDoWz
09-12-2009, 11:18 AM
Looks good, but I still prefer the first one better.

boochydog
09-12-2009, 11:22 AM
if that is the case, then cool beans!

there are a few final battle versions up on ebay already for sale.


I'd say not seeing the PDA in those shots confirms it's a Toy Hunters Ex., hopefully it'll also be a Sideshow Exclusive, this figure will probably be hinted in this weeks newsletter and go up for sale next week.

As for the blood splotches, havent seen T:S since it came out, but there's probably some there and it adds to him looking beat up, I'm fine with them.

The Ween
09-12-2009, 11:34 AM
My V1 Connor is on it's way to me know and I see this??!!

Dammit! :mad:

TwelveMonkeys
09-12-2009, 11:41 AM
Also the gun mix-up is annoying if you have no wish to buy both versions.

Yeah that is a pain...we should organise some sort of swapping system for those who buy just one of the Connors :lol

snoop101
09-12-2009, 11:41 AM
How much do you guys think this figure will cost? Considering it does come with a hydrobot with light up eyes.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 11:47 AM
How much do you guys think this figure will cost? Considering it does come with a hydrobot with light up eyes.

$150-$170 I'm guessing.

crazypredator2
09-12-2009, 11:56 AM
i want the base, but not the figure.

DinoDB1975
09-12-2009, 11:59 AM
My V1 Connor is on it's way to me know and I see this??!!

Dammit! :mad:

Yes, mine is on its way, too.

Hot Toys, how I love you and hate you at the same time...

Agen
09-12-2009, 11:59 AM
I like his gear and weapons and Hydrobot!

blakus939
09-12-2009, 12:02 PM
Looks good, i like the damaged head, more than the original i would say, but why on earth the EXACT same expression and HS? C'monnnn HT?! I'd prefer this head on the V1 body and acces, but i'm not gunna buy both lol. This one may get preference over V1, but i'm not really feeling that costume.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 12:04 PM
way on earth the EXACT same expression and HS?

It sounds like getting McG and Bale to sign off on it the first time was a bit of an effort, using an already approved portrait and just modifying it slightly saves them time, effort, and possibly money.

SilentSurfer
09-12-2009, 12:14 PM
Officially the only version I need. Looks more classic Resistance with the green instead of the lambskin jacket and tiger stripe pants.

snoop101
09-12-2009, 12:17 PM
Officially the only version I need. Looks more classic Resistance with the green instead of the lambskin jacket and tiger stripe pants.

I think the first version Costume is just as good as this one, if not better. The only thing making this figure better is the hydrobot with light up eyes, which looks awesome. But I think I actually prefer this headsculpt too. The scar detail is superb!

fanboyz
09-12-2009, 01:31 PM
Why would you release a figure and have a special version sometimes before most people has even receive their original figure.

$190 at Toys2, I hope this is not the regular price for figures in the future. They increase prices about 30% every year, although the quality has improve, its okay for those who still live with parents (if they have a decent paying job) or make or inherited a lot of money, not for most of us. I'm just jealous of those people, wish I didn't have to mortgage a house. This Figure is too awesome. Hot Toys is more addictive than gambling or concaine. I endure alot of torment for this hobby for the price I pay. This Figure is too awesome.....someone shoot me

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 01:35 PM
If he's $190 at Toys2, he'll be $190 at Sideshow, and if they get the Ex. PDA, that version will be $200, all the other T:S Exclusives have been $10 more than regular.

I suppose the $50 difference between the first Connor and this one is reasonable, the Hydrobot isn't a simple item by any means.

snoop101
09-12-2009, 01:45 PM
But $200 for one figure is ridiculous! Why does hot toys keep slowly raising the prices of their figures? Probably cant afford this one now. I thought the highest this guy was going to be was $170 at the most.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 01:47 PM
I don't think they've necessarily raised the price, the first John Connor was $140.

You get this John figure, which is about the same, still for $140 and on top you get a an articulated and electronic Hydrobot for $50, with all the detail in it, I think that's reasonable.

The $10 extra for the PDA, I understand because they can charge it and you can only get the item at 2 places, but you don't have to get that version so you can save the money.

snoop101
09-12-2009, 01:53 PM
I don't think they've necessarily raised the price, the first John Connor was $140.

You get this John figure, which is about the same, still for $140 and on top you get a an articulated and electronic Hydrobot for $50, with all the detail in it, I think that's reasonable.

The $10 extra for the PDA, I understand because they can charge it and you can only get the item at 2 places, but you don't have to get that version so you can save the money.

The PDA is a pretty cool extra though. But If I pic this guy up, It will probably be from alter ego comics. The total price of my first JC was $137 shipped. Though I will have it in about two weeks instead of when people who ordered from sideshow get theirs.

fanboyz
09-12-2009, 01:53 PM
They should come with 2 heads like Marcus. They don't have to movie accurate, like half terminator head and half Conner.

FACEBOX
09-12-2009, 01:53 PM
I had hoped that HT would release a Hydrobot & Aerostat in a separate boxset. (something like the Matrix Sentinel)
I wouldn't mind picking up an army of them that way.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 01:57 PM
I had hoped that HT would release a Hydrobot & Aerostat in a separate boxset. (something like the Matrix Sentinel)
I wouldn't mind picking up an army of them that way.

What's the Aerostat?

FACEBOX
09-12-2009, 02:00 PM
What's the Aerostat?

The flying thing that chased Marcus & Kyle in the jeep.

http://www.gamersinfo.net/u/gallery/a77/dd3/4ef/93383/medium/Enemy_Pose_Scene_-_Aerostat.jpg?1240596488

SilentSurfer
09-12-2009, 02:01 PM
Sorry for being too lazy to read every page of this thread to see if anybody has asked this, but is the smashed 600 on that base actually in scale? It looks a bit small to me, like it could fit inside John himself.

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_01bc4c6f59375cd1e2efeoiOBzS9EJVu.jpg

SilentSurfer
09-12-2009, 02:02 PM
What's the Aerostat?


The flying thing that chased Marcus & Kyle in the jeep.

Wouldn't mind one or two of those either. Basically the TS version of the 'mini-hunters' from T2 3-D.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 02:02 PM
The flying thing that chased Marcus & Kyle in the jeep.

Ahh, they remind me of the flying Terminators in T2 3D. For those, I'd say something like Sideshow did with Darth Mauls probes would an effective display set.


Sorry for being too lazy to read every page of this thread to see if anybody has asked this, but is the smashed 600 on that base actually in scale. It looks a bit small to me, like it could fit inside John himself.

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_01bc4c6f59375cd1e2efeoiOBzS9EJVu.jpg

No it's not in scale, but scale would make the base much bigger or you'd have less of the T-600 on this base so I think they compromised, which is ok, still will look great on display.

SilentSurfer
09-12-2009, 02:06 PM
Ahh, they remind me of the flying Terminators in T2 3D. For those, I'd say something like Sideshow did with Darth Mauls probes would an effective display set.

Beat ya. Good call on the Probes idea though. That would be excellent.


No it's not in scale, but scale would make the base much bigger or you'd have less of the T-600 on this base so I think they compromised, which is ok, still will look great on display.

Not being in scale means I'll have to display it with a 700 instead of John. I was going to torso one of my 600s to fight John anyway. This base would have made that redundant.

This base should have come with V1 John like the V2 gun anyway.

MarrowMan
09-12-2009, 02:07 PM
$200 is fair for this package, I'll grab it up for sure.

willming
09-12-2009, 02:44 PM
love the bag and robot arm but seriously the uniform, still the first one is better.

karamazov80
09-12-2009, 02:47 PM
Pretty hum-drum looking figure. The robot scorpion tail thing is kind of neat, I guess.

snoop101
09-12-2009, 03:25 PM
Pretty hum-drum looking figure. The robot scorpion tail thing is kind of neat, I guess.

Yeah, "the robot scorpian tail thing":lol or Hydrobot for short is pretty neat!

Predanator
09-12-2009, 03:45 PM
No need for any "panic", I'm told these figures have been produced in very LARGE quantities. There is going to be more than enough around for everyone that want one. Enough Hydrobots and display bases for those that only want those items ( He will get parted out). Most sellers in HK will have them for around $129. USD. The "VIP" edition with the little hand held computer will cost a little more. There will probably be lots of those spare as well. :chew

Matt13
09-12-2009, 03:52 PM
Sorry if this has been answered already, when is the preorder coming for this guy? I was trying to just stick to bad guys but after seeing this, marcus and dutch, I need them all!

snoop101
09-12-2009, 03:53 PM
Sorry if this has been answered already, when is the preorder coming for this guy? I was trying to just stick to bad guys but after seeing this, marcus and dutch, I need them all!

Probably sometime next week.

Matt13
09-12-2009, 04:14 PM
Awesome, thanks!

Nuka Cola Kidd
09-12-2009, 04:45 PM
He's already up for PO on toys2.

plasmid303
09-12-2009, 04:52 PM
Just read about the price on the last couple pages (as well as on Toys2). $190 is freaking ridiculous, any way you want to reason it.

Master Wayne
09-12-2009, 05:04 PM
Not digging the outfit on this one.
I'm fine with V1 of Connor, for now.

snoop101
09-12-2009, 05:14 PM
Just read about the price on the last couple pages (as well as on Toys2). $190 is freaking ridiculous, any way you want to reason it.

I totally agree. $190 for one Figure is stupid! I think Eventually hot toys will raise prices even more, and every figure is going to be about $200 plus. This is a great figure, even though it has tons of accessories, That still doesnt justify the 190 price tag.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 05:42 PM
Just read about the price on the last couple pages (as well as on Toys2). $190 is freaking ridiculous, any way you want to reason it.

Well to me, all collectibles cost way more than the item you get seems to be worth, I wouldn't own a thing if I based my collecting on the practical side, really boils down to is it worth it to you for the money. As far as this one goes, like I've said, considering just John cost $140, $50 more for the included Hydrobot doesn't seem that crazy.

jedibear
09-12-2009, 05:54 PM
Overall I think this looks great, would have been neat if they threw in a regular Connor head in case someone wanted to display him without the scars....

I agree...especially when one considers by the time he ended up with those scars in the movie, he wasn't struggling with hydrobots or aiming guns, he was struggling to stay alive....

I like the outfit, the base, the additional guns and of course, the hydrobot, but....yeah, an alternate head w/o the scar would've been welcome.


I'll get this for the Terminator base and Hydrobot.
The rest will be sold. I have no interest in this version of Connor. :o

Anyone want a cheap loose JC? :lol

Well, if you're serious about that cheap JC...I'm game!

Darkseed
09-12-2009, 05:57 PM
A great looking figure but not worth $190 IMO. I will keep JC v. 1 and pass on this one. whew....

coolkansaswind
09-12-2009, 05:59 PM
not bad ..

jedibear
09-12-2009, 06:20 PM
Moving shandyman's post ip her to keep the talk coming...the full psots are back on page one...



Terminator Salvation: 1/6th scale John Connor collectible figure (Final Battle Version)

Product code: MMS111


Hot Toys proudly presents our latest MMS figure from the Terminator Salvation 1/6th scale lineup - John Connor collectible figure (Final Battle ver.). This collectible figure stands approximately 30 cm tall, featuring Hot Toys True-type figure body with over 36 points of articulation.

This John Connor figure features the high quality head sculpture (by Kojun) with battle damaged face, perfect painting (by JC Hong) and authentic Christian Bale likeness.

The Final Battle version also newly comes with a battle-damaged endoskeleton featured base and also a 1/6th scale fully articulated Hydrobot with light up function.

The highly detailed collectible also comes with the following full gear and weapons:

+ Uniform
- Field jacket
- Pants
- T-shirt
- Tactical belt
- Tactical vest
- Backpack

+ Accessories
- Headset
- Radio with pouch
- Pistol Magazine pouch
- Shoulder pad
- Drop leg panels
- Grenades with holder
- Armband
- Tactical gloves
- Assault boots

+ Weapons
- HK416 with tactical red dot sight
- M203 grenade launcher with elastic sling
- Pistol with holster

Release date: Q4, 2009

Artists:
Head Sculpt by Kojun
Paint by J.C Hong

Terminator Salvation ™ & © 2009 T Asset Acquisition Company, LLC.

Pictures via: toy-world

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_2cf7277adac6be4f7d75tPhdRLBv0V5g.jpg

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_9f7f5eb630ac57e2c699fZeJ6QomPBEA.jpg

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_50ab35cdd5145d2b0790L9x2xK4QV6lS.jpg

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_ff43c87be852c689a966OCNbQEdZFxX4.jpg

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_111242cce8cded1d9ef4Nt3epxAhgZJB.jpg




http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_4d08792461ebdb29b2e3TF5yDdeRi5VA.jpg

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_a56fd908276e73da9c9aaRFTDeoo9783.jpg

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_b3fe595da09f2f809a35zYeZJ4BXIhOt.jpg

http://toy-world.com.hk/forum/attachments/month_0909/20090912_01bc4c6f59375cd1e2efeoiOBzS9EJVu.jpg

While I'm glad to see there's still more coming from this line, I'm not as impressed by that scar-face as some and as has been mentioned, this outfit does give good shout-out to the T2 resistance fighter look...I actually like version one better. Yeah, it's be cool to have the grenade launcher, the base and the hydrobot, but I'm happy to be getting the first version soon.

snoop101
09-12-2009, 07:12 PM
The more I look at the pics, I cant help but notice that the jacket is olive green as opposed to the movies version being black. But I could be wrong, I havent seen the movie since it was in theaters.

MarrowMan
09-12-2009, 07:13 PM
It's been mentioned a few times in this thread it isn't black, I think there have been a few screen caps to describe that as well

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9595/hrterminatorsalvation33.jpg

shandy_man
09-12-2009, 07:17 PM
I hate those stupid Toyworld's logo :maul

Wookster ~~ give us the "clean" official photo please !!! :banana

Updated a clean set :D


man as for the price of this thing, I really wished they would stick with the 140 range. 50 for a hydrobot isn't too bad but it's not like it was really needed with JC. For 190, the least they could have thrown in the UX UMPC instead of making it a VIP exclusive. I guess I can display my Hydrobot with Marcus

snoop101
09-12-2009, 07:20 PM
Guess I was wrong.Thanks for the screen shot. I guess I should just Keep quiet, and let Hot Toys just keep Doing What their Doing. Even if the jacket was slightly off in color, It wouldnt change my mind about preordering this Incredible figure!

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 07:20 PM
It's been mentioned a few times in this thread it isn't black, I think there have been a few screen caps to describe that as well

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9595/hrterminatorsalvation33.jpg

It comes down to lighting too. In the film, it's darker most of the time, plus color tinting on the shots and all, the end result is looking black even if it starts as green.

Even Tommy Richardson's shots look more black.

Everything looks the same color under green photo tint here, the vest and shirt look the same color but in the HT shots they contrast.

http://f20.yahoofs.com/hkblog/Arbf8eaGHxp5iPfSI1TWwD7k_41/blog/ap_20090912121119954.jpg?TTAeYrKBubwAHxIH

Devil_666
09-12-2009, 07:26 PM
Regardless if it's accurate or not I prefer the solid black seen in the original bootleg pics.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 07:40 PM
Time will tell, it may look more black in hand in the end.

karamazov80
09-12-2009, 07:42 PM
As far as this one goes, like I've said, considering just John cost $140, $50 more for the included Hydrobot doesn't seem that crazy.
For me, $50 for an accessory, even a cool looking one straight out of the Transformers movie, is really pushing it. I understand it, but damn.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 07:48 PM
For me, $50 for an accessory, even a cool looking one straight out of the Transformers movie, is really pushing it. I understand it, but damn.

While John is the focal element in this set, it doesn't change that accessory or not, the Hydrobot looks like a complex piece of engineering, I'm actually even amazed we're getting it as a $50 extra in this set, I figured they'd feel it too complex and involved and only worth somehow selling by itself for like $100+.

redtinfox
09-12-2009, 07:53 PM
So I would use the base and gun from this version for version 2.

Blu Falcon
09-12-2009, 08:22 PM
I was going to pass on Connor considering I'm minimizing the human presence in my 1/6 collection, but now I'm very tempted to pick up this version.

Dinosoar Daz
09-12-2009, 08:24 PM
Updated a clean set :D


man as for the price of this thing, I really wished they would stick with the 140 range. 50 for a hydrobot isn't too bad but it's not like it was really needed with JC. For 190, the least they could have thrown in the UX UMPC instead of making it a VIP exclusive. I guess I can display my Hydrobot with Marcus

I appreciate many here don't like to use eBay, but there are a few listing already and starting at $140+shipping.

SilentSurfer
09-12-2009, 08:48 PM
Those sellers will regret that when they see what this thing is really worth later. If I didn't have to pay now, I'd be all over that action.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 08:49 PM
It's really only around $20 in savings, they have like $30-$40 shipping fees.

SilentSurfer
09-12-2009, 08:51 PM
That's the other reason I won't ebay buy this now. Their shipping rates suck.

MaulFan
09-12-2009, 09:04 PM
I think it's to try and fool people, I'm sure some people are dumb enough to BIN based on the product price and don't stop to look at shipping and then you're screwed. They want to charge $160+ for the figure, but they figure if they play games with shipping costs and the price to split it up, they might catch people with the allure of the huge product discount.

Master Wayne
09-12-2009, 09:12 PM
I know what's missing and would make this a more tempting purchase, for me at least.
Spoilers:
The bloody steel beam sticking through the front of his chest. Or at least the option to have one. That would at least sync up with his bloody face.

Dinosoar Daz
09-12-2009, 09:15 PM
I think it's to try and fool people, I'm sure some people are dumb enough to BIN based on the product price and don't stop to look at shipping and then you're screwed

Thanks :D Every time I've bought Items from the States the shipping has been in excess of $50 so eBay is the better oprion for me.

Master Wayne
09-12-2009, 09:24 PM
I love your sig DD. Alien3 never gets enough love. :rock

Dinosoar Daz
09-12-2009, 09:29 PM
I love your sig DD. Alien3 never gets enough love. :rock

Thanks Master Wayne. It's a much under-appreciated movie :monkey2

Cryoguns
09-12-2009, 10:37 PM
I definitely like the Hydrobot and the base. Might have to watch for them loose once this figure is out :)

A.L.I.E.N
09-13-2009, 01:06 AM
I definitely like the Hydrobot and the base. Might have to watch for them loose once this figure is out :)

:lol You will be racing against me for them! :lol

Thrustmaster
09-13-2009, 02:42 AM
does someone know, what tommy is saying here?


輯錄自MILK VOL.426 PLASTIC ENEMIES

HOT TOYS《TERMINATOR SALVATION》 1/6系列,在未來一段頗長的時間將不會再有新角或新版本登場。大家期待的T-BIKE、BLAIR WILLIAMS、KYLE REESE、T-800或是MARCUS WRIGHT VER.2.0 ...等都不會出現。要期待的,倒不如期待真正最受大眾擁戴的那位TERMINATOR吧。

more hot toys figures? moto-terminator, that's now called t-bike? blair williams?? kyle reese? marcus v2? and T-800???? :horror

wookster
09-13-2009, 02:46 AM
does someone know, what tommy is saying here?



more hot toys figures? moto-terminator, that's now called t-bike? blair williams?? kyle reese? marcus v2? and T-800???? :horror

This may be like the Ironman 2 article though, based more on what the writer 'wants' to see, rather than anything official!

darren1228
09-13-2009, 02:46 AM
does someone know, what tommy is saying here?



more hot toys figures? moto-terminator, that's now called t-bike? blair williams?? kyle reese? marcus v2? and T-800???? :horror

It says that you should not expect to see anymore T:S figures. There are no plans at the moment to expand the line.

However, it also says "one would be better off anticipating the one Terminator that every collector covets." Is that a hint to Arnie?

stupotnoodle
09-13-2009, 02:47 AM
^^ until they release dx version of john connor

Centrocal
09-13-2009, 02:50 AM
No I think he's saying they are not making them , cause people want to know about those characters.

Thrustmaster
09-13-2009, 02:57 AM
ah ok. i was surprised to see the name "blair williams" in his post. nothing against her, but to have a figure from her from the Terminator line would be just too much. Hope we'll get soon a HT Arnie as the T-800 and a T-800 endo DX :)


don't smash my wish-list away, I'm just dreaming :D

Centrocal
09-13-2009, 03:03 AM
Yeah he pretty much just confirmed they are making the Arnold T-800 and a DX is a no brainer :D I wonnder if its T1 or T2. I think T2 is 'the most popular'

However we will probably see a normal version before the DX I think

Sachiel
09-13-2009, 04:45 AM
It would kick so much ass if they did Terminator [2] figures.

Tyler
09-13-2009, 06:45 AM
I like this one, but I wish it did not come with the Hydrobot or what ever it is called. If that was not part of it and it was cheaper I would definately get one. I'm unsure if i'll get this one due to what I think is a pointless extra and high cost.

snoop101
09-13-2009, 06:47 AM
^^ until they release dx version of john connor

I doubt they would release a dx connor. If they did they would probably use the same exact head sculpt from v1 and v2. And what else could you include with connor that were not already getting?

Agen
09-13-2009, 08:24 AM
does someone know, what tommy is saying here?

more hot toys figures? moto-terminator, that's now called t-bike? blair williams?? kyle reese? marcus v2? and T-800???? :horror

No Kate Connor name in the article :lol

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/393/417801main.jpg

dcflake
09-13-2009, 08:56 AM
No Kate Connor name in the article :lol

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/393/417801main.jpg

Is that Kate Connor?

I completely forgot she was even in this film. That's probablies why there was no Kate.

MarrowMan
09-13-2009, 09:40 AM
She had a relatively infinitesimal role.

MaulFan
09-13-2009, 10:26 AM
I wonnder if its T1 or T2. I think T2 is 'the most popular'

Unlikely they'll revisit T1 before doing something T2, with T1 they'd have to get approvals from Arnold's independent likeness rights company, with T2, the film license covers the likeness of all the key actors so they can just go at it.

blakus939
09-13-2009, 10:30 AM
She had a relatively infinitesimal role.
To the film - minute
To the Bale spazz out - one of the main ingredients :p

''Quit walking over there behind Bryce, in the [email protected]#gnscene'' :p

MarrowMan
09-13-2009, 10:33 AM
To the film - minute
To the Bale spazz out - one of the main ingredients :p

''Quit walking over there behind Bryce, in the [email protected]#gnscene'' :p


:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

snoop101
09-13-2009, 12:52 PM
To the film - minute
To the Bale spazz out - one of the main ingredients :p

''Quit walking over there behind Bryce, in the [email protected]#gnscene'' :p

I thought Bales freakout was quite funny. It actually makes me like Bale even more. He's one of my top five favorite actors.

SOLIDSNAKE
09-13-2009, 01:33 PM
ohh man !! I think I am going to cancel my normal JC and wait for this one.
Love the base and the hole figure just looks amazing.

a-dev
09-13-2009, 02:19 PM
An issue has come up with Toys2 for me at the moment - its saying it has no available shipping methods for my address for some unknown reason. I suppose I'll wait and see if its still refusing me tomorrow then email Eric.

MarrowMan
09-13-2009, 02:20 PM
An issue has come up with Toys2 for me at the moment - its saying it has no available shipping methods for my address for some unknown reason. I suppose I'll wait and see if its still refusing me tomorrow then email Eric.

Me too. You're not alone! I thought I was just going nutters! I sent them an email about it.

a-dev
09-13-2009, 03:01 PM
Hmm, hopefully that'll be resolved. I already have existing orders with them and I'd like to make more.

shandy_man
09-13-2009, 03:07 PM
Me too. You're not alone! I thought I was just going nutters! I sent them an email about it.

haha, I'm glad I wasn't the only one....I tried POing right when he placed it on the site but had troubles so I sent him an email, Eric told me it's just the postal office updating their system and things should be back to normal on Monday

FACEBOX
09-13-2009, 03:17 PM
How come we could get ALIENS Marines for $85, Predators for $130, but this figure costs $190!? :mad:
Except for the Hydrobot, they had much more going on.

Predanator
09-13-2009, 03:21 PM
$190 is the retail price with a big FAT mark-up... :D

These figures leave the "old ones" for dead...

MaulFan
09-13-2009, 03:22 PM
How come we could get ALIENS Marines for $85, Predators for $130, but this figure costs $190!? :mad:
Except for the Hydrobot, they had much more going on.

Well, you can take issue with the increasing prices, but fair comparison would be to the current market.

Right now it costs $140 for a standard John Connor, and $170 for a Predator, so against today's prices, I think $190 for this set is within reason.

However, yes, in the increasing prices of figures, it is crazy to look at what costs you $140 and what only cost $85 3 years ago.

Predanator
09-13-2009, 03:25 PM
eBay prices... :rotfl

FACEBOX
09-13-2009, 03:36 PM
I see your point, however I have to take a stand.
It's getting ridiculous. I'd bet my entire collection that HT will start charging $200+ per figure in the near future. The thing is, I know it doesn't cost them nearly as much to make them. Sure, profit is what drives this business, but more than a 100% increase is where I start pumping the brakes.

MaulFan
09-13-2009, 03:54 PM
It does suck, and there is seemingly no reason for it. I guess I'm just used to increases, very few things I have bought regularly over a number of years seem to cost what they used it. It's almost $8 for a 4" tall Star Wars figure you could get for $4-$5 at one time.

The 1/6 market has exploded over the last few years, between the licenses getting picked up and the quality of the products, it's in high demand which gives companies more freedom to pad profits. I'm sure to some extent, the materials do cost more now than 3 years too, but it all adds up, but either folks will keep following and it'll stay like this, or eventually it'll be too nuts and sales will drop and compromise will have to be made. I know I'm more selective today than I was in the days of $50-$90 figures.

snoop101
09-13-2009, 04:21 PM
Hot toys quality is unbeatable. But if these prices are signs of how much future hot toys figures will cost, Then I'll no longer be a customer. Most of us probably cant afford $200+ dollar figures. On average, it probably costs them about $70 dollars to make one figure, they are making a HUGE profit! But at least sideshow has been staying in the $80-$100 price range for their 12'' figures.

MaulFan
09-13-2009, 04:22 PM
Even Sideshow's gone up.

When the Star Wars line started figures were around $50-$60, now the same are around $90.

snoop101
09-13-2009, 04:29 PM
Even Sideshow's gone up.

When the Star Wars line started figures were around $50-$60, now the same are around $90.

Still way cheaper than hot toys.Though, the quality isnt nearly as good.

MaulFan
09-13-2009, 04:32 PM
I thought you were trying to say even though Hot Toys prices are increasing, Sideshow's are staying level, which they aren't. Sideshow prices and Hot Toys prices continue to have a 1:2 ratio. Yes, thankfully Sideshow's still relatively inexpensive, but even those, I've become more selective with than I would have been back when figures were only like $50.

snoop101
09-13-2009, 04:45 PM
I thought you were trying to say even though Hot Toys prices are increasing, Sideshow's are staying level, which they aren't. Sideshow prices and Hot Toys prices continue to have a 1:2 ratio. Yes, thankfully Sideshow's still relatively inexpensive, but even those, I've become more selective with than I would have been back when figures were only like $50.

Thats exactly what I did say. Sideshow figures tend to range Anywhere between $80-$100 dollars. Sideshow has had those price ranges for quite sometime now. With each new release from hot toys, The prices keep getting Higher and higher. But at least sideshow has recently been staying pretty consistent with their prices.

MarrowMan
09-13-2009, 04:47 PM
Hot Toys seems more innovative imo, like the Mercedes Benz to SS's Kia. (as far as 1:6th are concerned) I'm not bashing in the least, I'm just saying, you want quality, you pay for it. Not to say SS hasn't had some great figures.

MaulFan
09-13-2009, 04:50 PM
Well Hot Toys has been pretty consistent as well, I'd say the figures over the past year or so have been pretty consistent with a few exceptions based on specialty things.

Average Hot Toys figure for the past year has been about $150.

snoop101
09-13-2009, 04:50 PM
Hot Toys seems more innovative imo, like the Mercedes Benz to SS's Kia. (as far as 1:6th are concerned) I'm not bashing in the least, I'm just saying, you want quality, you pay for it.

But It gets to the point where its starts to get ridiculous when someone wants to charge you $190 dollars for a suped up toy.

MaulFan
09-13-2009, 04:51 PM
Hot Toys seems more innovative imo, like the Mercedes Benz to SS's Kia. (as far as 1:6th are concerned) I'm not bashing in the least, I'm just saying, you want quality, you pay for it. Not to say SS hasn't had some great figures.

It's not even about quality, it's just within each manufacturer, prices have increased to about double what they were just a couple years ago.

dcflake
09-13-2009, 04:55 PM
If you want the prices to go down stop buying them.

It's a sad fact but as long as they sell at that price then HT will put them at that price there just nothing you can really do about it unless you want to miss out.

MaulFan
09-13-2009, 04:58 PM
Precisely, demand is so high, any part of the price tag that's pure profit margin can be escalated until it hits the point that things stop selling, which it hasn't yet.

However, I think people are reading too much into the price of this John Connor and are taking his price as the new basic figure price, when I really don't see him as a basic figure.

creecher
09-13-2009, 05:04 PM
It's unrealistic to look back at Sideshow pricing. Back then they priced all their figures equally. They started out at around $30, and all their figures were $30. That equality remained, until the more recently acquired Star Wars, then variation in pricing began to creep in. You also knew the rarity of their figures by their edition size. You had a better chance to prioritise your spending accordingly. Sideshow, themselves, were in the position of guaging demand and having a production schedule open to quite some chance. Then they have to ship and store their product.

Hot Toys leave practically nothing to chance. They open up their figures to a long pre-order schedule and run production to a tighter demand regime. They know and have sold their edition runs in advance and run newer versions tail to tail. They have the flexibility of adding another production run should pre-order demand be high enough, which is probably why they don't announce their edition sizes. Their money isn't tied up, like much of Sideshows. They can virtually ship from the factory to distributors directly.

Overall I'd say that the cost of producing a figure, from either company, would easily run no greater than 25% of the retail asking price. Hot Toys costs are way lower than Sideshows, yet Sideshow is able to keep the cost to customers so much lower. How much is the price of fish in China btw?

plasmid303
09-13-2009, 05:21 PM
It's baffling, the pricing on John #2.

MarrowMan
09-13-2009, 07:35 PM
I remember something similar happening to comic books in the 90's specifically with Valiant comics, like Harbinger #1, Solar #1, each went from $20-$200+ in a few months, but then it just went crazy as nobody cared anymore, then the prices plummeted back down to almost nothing. I don't know if the analogy is the same, but something similar could happen if companies keep leeching customers for no other reason than they just "can" which is lame.

Killboy
09-13-2009, 07:55 PM
I remember something similar happening to comic books in the 90's specifically with Valiant comics, like Harbinger #1, Solar #1, each went from $20-$200+ in a few months, but then it just went crazy as nobody cared anymore, then the prices plummeted back down to almost nothing. I don't know if the analogy is the same, but something similar could happen if companies keep leeching customers for no other reason than they just "can" which is lame.

My friends got me Eternal Warrior #4 (the first appearance of Bloodshot) for my 11th birthday I believe...

The thing about the Valiant analogy though is that with comic books, second market prices are dictated by fans and well retailers, not the publishers themselves. People were paying $200+ for Harbinger #1 but Valiant put it out at $3.

It is too bad that prices are rising, but as someone who started out with Medicom products, the prices are still relatively manageable :lol Especially when you consider the bang that you get for your buck.

In any case, I for one am glad I skipped out on the first one. I'll probably get this one and throw you guys the Hydrobot and base :D

MarrowMan
09-13-2009, 07:59 PM
Yea I guess you're right. Despite the price I think JC is worth it. I remember thinking Optimas Prime was expensive for $40 in 1984 (which he was, but I didn't care, I was 8)

Killboy
09-13-2009, 08:11 PM
Wow was he $40? I guess my parents really shilled out for my 5th birthday :lol

I took him to bed with me :D

I agree that Version 2 is worth the price... But having a pre-order for the Cop Joker, wanting the new Batman, and still needing to do a kit-bash Bourne... Well you have to choose your battles. I'll still buy him, but I'll definitely have to do away with the accessories to cushion the blow.

It's too bad that I actually prefer this outfit over the other one or I'd just go ahead and buy V1...

galactiboy
09-14-2009, 06:26 AM
Have to say I'm not really digging the look of his outfit... seems to fit awkwardly. I imagine though that it will be tightened up for the final release. Love the base and Hydrobot though... too bad you can't buy those pieces separately to add to the original figure.

Darkseed
09-14-2009, 07:12 AM
The figure is decent enough. I prefer sinking my cash into other lines besides T:S. I have the figs I wanted therefore, I can easily pass on another JC.

I am intrigued by the high price point and the folks justifying the cost. $50 for a hydrobot. 1/3 the cost of a "normal" figure :horror

snoop101
09-14-2009, 11:58 AM
Even though the price is extremely high, I'll probably get suckered in to buying this one too. Ever since I first watched T2 as a kid, the action figure I always wanted was a John connor with the scar on his face.

MarrowMan
09-14-2009, 03:18 PM
I pre-ordered one. I figured what the hell, my collection is puny, it's gotta grow somehow, right?:cool:

snoop101
09-14-2009, 03:19 PM
I pre-ordered one. I figured what the hell, my collection is puny, it's gotta grow somehow, right?:cool:

Where did you pre-order it from? Toys2?

MaulFan
09-14-2009, 03:31 PM
I'm holding out for Sideshow, hopefully they get the PDA Exclusive, if not I'll got Toys2 to get him faster.

snoop101
09-14-2009, 03:49 PM
I'm holding out for Sideshow, hopefully they get the PDA Exclusive, if not I'll got Toys2 to get him faster.

Same. This will be my first time ordering from sideshow. I usually get all my hot toys from Ebay.

Dollmanron
09-14-2009, 03:55 PM
I haven't taken the time to go over the whole thread, but shouldn't that base have come with the first version of John Connor as well as the Hydobot?

I'm getting a T-700 (molten T-800 or what ever it's suppose to be now), and I think this version of Connor will go the best with it.

snoop101
09-14-2009, 03:58 PM
I haven't taken the time to go over the whole thread, but shouldn't that base have come with the first version of John Connor as well as the Hydobot?

I'm getting a T-700 (molten T-800 or what ever it's suppose to be now), and I think this version of Connor will go the best with it.

The gun,base, and hydrobot probably should've. But its an extremely easy swap if youre buying both figures. The t-700 is it's own model.

MaulFan
09-14-2009, 03:59 PM
The hydrobot really goes with neither outfit, he was in a traditional military shirt, t-shirt and pants when he fought them.

The base belongs more with v1 and the rifle's should be swapped.

plasmid303
09-14-2009, 04:14 PM
I would assume the Hydrobot would go well with Marcus.

MaulFan
09-14-2009, 04:59 PM
Yes it will, or a kitbashed Connor in that costume, which I plan to have the option for as well.

usswanker
09-14-2009, 06:26 PM
He's $169.99 at BBTS. Not as bad as I thought he was going to be. Thought he was going to be more along the lines of $200.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HOT10260&mode=retail&picture=aux1

Predanator
09-14-2009, 06:31 PM
The Hydrobot is going to be sweeet... :D

Voorhees27
09-14-2009, 06:35 PM
He's $169.99 at BBTS. Not as bad as I thought he was going to be. Thought he was going to be more along the lines of $200.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HOT10260&mode=retail&picture=aux1

:confused: Why would you think it would come out for around $200? At $169 its still about $40-$50 overpriced.

usswanker
09-14-2009, 06:38 PM
:confused: Why would you think it would come out for around $200? At $169 its still about $40-$50 overpriced.

This is Hot Toys were talking about. They throw in a Hydrobot and jack it up an extra $70 bucks.

Voorhees27
09-14-2009, 06:39 PM
This is Hot Toys were talking about. They throw in a Hydrobot and jack it up an extra $70 bucks.

Yeah I know but we shouldn't accept that garbage. V1 seems to be the better deal and better figure imo.

Master Wayne
09-14-2009, 06:40 PM
Yeah I know but we shouldn't accept that garbage. V1 seems to be the better deal and better figure imo.

^^^Agreed.

MaulFan
09-14-2009, 06:41 PM
:confused: Why would you think it would come out for around $200? At $169 its still about $40-$50 overpriced.

Toys2 has it for $190, and usually Sideshow's same as them.

If Sideshow has it for $170 like BBTS, $180 for the Ex., that'd be a bargain, then it'd be like only $30 more for the Hydrobot.

usswanker
09-14-2009, 06:45 PM
I really think a lot of people just want the Hyrobot. I prefer the V1 outfit anyway.

snoop101
09-14-2009, 07:18 PM
Is the release date 4th quarter 2009, Or 1st quarter 2010?

MaulFan
09-14-2009, 07:20 PM
4th Quarter 2009.

Chew74
09-14-2009, 09:06 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/Shandy_man/3911801492_6d0c596579_o.jpg
Looking he's cuddling with new pet, (sigh)

Great looking figure but what's with the Hydrobot as a pet. The Hydrobots didn't really have a part in the final battle.
Just a thought.

plasmid303
09-14-2009, 09:10 PM
^ Be thankful that the hydrobot is included with this figure and not a third John Connor figure or a second Marcus Wright.

MaulFan
09-14-2009, 09:11 PM
Indeed, thankfully it's not always about exactly what's right for the figure in the box, sometimes it's about packing in cool things that add value to a collection of figures.

Hydeous
09-14-2009, 10:35 PM
Indeed, thankfully it's not always about exactly what's right for the figure in the box, sometimes it's about packing in cool things that add value to a collection of figures.

Always a Bank Robber Joker Concept™.

qweqwe
09-14-2009, 10:46 PM
imo i feel like both JC sculpts lack a certain 'life like' feel.
Dont get me wrong, the detail and execution is top notch but its like it there is no facial expression and the eyes are staring into space. I cant as much dynamic poses with JC compared to the BR.

snoop101
09-15-2009, 03:38 AM
4th Quarter 2009.

I hope so. Because bbts says 1st quarter 2010. But Im pretty sure they get their shipments in late.

zotols
09-15-2009, 06:46 AM
imo i feel like both JC sculpts lack a certain 'life like' feel.
Dont get me wrong, the detail and execution is top notch but its like it there is no facial expression and the eyes are staring into space. I cant as much dynamic poses with JC compared to the BR.

gotta agree with you..i have the V1..and it let me down..no matter how good u pose him, that blank half-zombie stare is just not working. its frusrating to have a good figure which doesnt look good after u posed him goodly..err get it?

i got to admit that HT is rendering its own product obsolete a lil bit too fast too soon

a-dev
09-15-2009, 06:53 AM
What kind of expression would you guys have preferred? I'm happy with the way they did it to be honest.

Dollmanron
09-15-2009, 07:12 AM
Is Sideshow going to offer this, it's not up so far?

ChaserFan
09-15-2009, 08:02 AM
Is Sideshow going to offer this, it's not up so far?

Give them a week or 2 or 3 or 4......:lol

HT only announced this a few days ago!

Killboy
09-15-2009, 08:58 AM
imo i feel like both JC sculpts lack a certain 'life like' feel.
Dont get me wrong, the detail and execution is top notch but its like it there is no facial expression and the eyes are staring into space. I cant as much dynamic poses with JC compared to the BR.

I kinda got the same feeling, especially in those shots where he's holding the Hydrobot and aiming at the Terminator base. It looks like he's looking into the Hydrobot's eyes @[email protected]


What kind of expression would you guys have preferred? I'm happy with the way they did it to be honest.

I'm fine with it as well and will pick it up regardless... But I wouldn't have minded if the second head had a bit of a scowl... Of course I realize how much of a hassle getting approval was for these figures so it's just wishful thinking.

EdwardNashton1
09-15-2009, 10:17 AM
The likeness still isn't that great, but it it more appealing to me than the first version I think.

MaulFan
09-15-2009, 12:05 PM
Is Sideshow going to offer this, it's not up so far?

Odds are, Sideshow will put up a Coming Soon spotlight in this week's newsletter announcing preorder with next week's newsletter, or it may just go up this week.

Typically things either go up for sale Thursday with the newsletter or there's an announcement and a date scheduled at least a week out for preorders, things very rarely just go up whenever.

Dollmanron
09-15-2009, 12:12 PM
I read something on another forum about the rifles being switched between the two versions, is this so? Please explain.

Tyler
09-15-2009, 12:17 PM
I only said the other day I wouldn't get this, but I changed my mind. I like it alot. I had some store credit at Toys2 so I used that to order this.

MaulFan
09-15-2009, 12:18 PM
I read something on another forum about the rifles being switched between the two versions, is this so? Please explain.

The rifle that comes with the first Connor is actually used by him in the film when he's wearing the costume of this new figure, and the rifle this new figure comes with is the one he used wearing the first costume.

Cobra King
09-15-2009, 01:34 PM
The rifle that comes with the first Connor is actually used by him in the film when he's wearing the costume of this new figure, and the rifle this new figure comes with is the one he used wearing the first costume.

it is funny that hot toys messed that up no biggie though , also the base that comes with the new figure would have fit the first figure better

a-dev
09-15-2009, 01:58 PM
I only said the other day I wouldn't get this, but I changed my mind. I like it alot. I had some store credit at Toys2 so I used that to order this.

I too had store credit with them and just ordered this guy.

snoop101
09-15-2009, 05:15 PM
The likeness looks pretty good to me.You can definitely tell its Christian Bale. But I think this version looks better in terms of acessories and the t-600 base looks awesome.But what really makes this figure IMO, is the scar on connors face. But the costume on JC version 1 look better.

polonium
09-15-2009, 06:32 PM
Finally I decide not getting this figure. I want to save my budget for Arnie.
I do want that rifle and T-600 base though :monkey2

tylerdurden
09-15-2009, 08:47 PM
imo i feel like both JC sculpts lack a certain 'life like' feel.
Dont get me wrong, the detail and execution is top notch but its like it there is no facial expression and the eyes are staring into space. I cant as much dynamic poses with JC compared to the BR.

i kinda agree, actually. while his expression is by no means terrible, i would've preferred ht to have given us a new expression. something a little more obvious. this expression is still fairly neutral. a bigger frown and more downturn in his mouth perhaps. he does have a huge wound on his face, so a more pained expression would suit this sculpt better...

Agen
09-15-2009, 09:32 PM
Finally I decide not getting this figure. I want to save my budget for Arnie.
I do want that rifle and T-600 base though :monkey2

I get Final Battle Version and sell Ver.1 :naughty

polonium
09-15-2009, 10:49 PM
I get Final Battle Version and sell Ver.1 :naughty

To me v1 is better but I want v2 rifle to make it movie accurate. Do you want to change your v2 HK416 rifle with my v1 M4 rifle? :D You'll also have the correct rifle for that outfit too :naughty

Spewer
09-15-2009, 11:02 PM
What kind of expression would you guys have preferred? I'm happy with the way they did it to be honest.

http://i32.tinypic.com/szgyg3.jpg

OMG
09-16-2009, 05:42 AM
MILK

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb284/KAZAMA_photos/IMG_0177.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb284/KAZAMA_photos/IMG_0179.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb284/KAZAMA_photos/IMG_0178.jpg

Info

-Hottoys feels that they made way too many TS figure so this JC v.2 will be the last

-HT want to make the MotoTermintor and other endo when the TS project start, but the film company didnt provide enough refrence and they drop the project.

-The hyrobot orginally go with another figure (not Marcus) but since HT want to end the TS line, they desided to include it on this final battle ver.

-due to the lack of info, HT made up lots of the hyrobot parts.

ChaserFan
09-16-2009, 05:54 AM
-HT want to make the MotoTermintor.............but the film company didnt provide enough refrence and they drop the project.

:monkey2 Damn it! But now it's obvious HT are going to be focusing more on T1 & T2; if they only did 2 T-600's, we might have seen the "other endo" & the 'non-Marcus' other figure.....oh well! :rolleyes:

Thrustmaster
09-16-2009, 06:11 AM
:monkey2 Damn it! But now it's obvious HT are going to be focusing more on T1 & T2; if they only did 2 T-600's, we might have seen the "other endo" & the 'non-Marcus' other figure.....oh well! :rolleyes:

the moto-terminator would have been really cool but ... phew... it saves me for spending another 200-300$ for it :D

it would be nice to know what other figures they have planned. which "other endo", maybe the arnie-proto-type? and what another charakter? Kyle Reese? Blair Williams? The hydrobot should have been matched the new charakter and none of them would go with a hydrobot... so it's curious...

pilotsheaven
09-16-2009, 06:21 AM
:crying:crying:crying:crying:crying:crying:crying
That can't be! But I want more T:S figures:banghead

Agen
09-16-2009, 06:26 AM
So UMPC is Exclusive item right?
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3382/img01782.jpg

MaulFan
09-16-2009, 09:35 AM
-Hottoys feels that they made way too many TS figure so this JC v.2 will be the last

-HT want to make the MotoTermintor and other endo when the TS project start, but the film company didnt provide enough refrence and they [B]drop the project. Due to the lack of info, HT made up lots of the hyrobot parts.

1- That sucks because yeah they did too many, but too many stupid T-600 variants, can't do Kyle Reese, a fresh, unique figure, no, waste slots in the lineup for dumbass machine variants that people are sick of.

2- That just sucks because that's basically saying WB didn't want more merchandise made so they didn't supply HT with thorough reference material, since when does a company not want to make money.

If it's really true on the reference, then it's another reason why I am forgiving with certain errors made because it seems like reference provided to HT can steer them wrong sometimes.

MaulFan
09-16-2009, 09:35 AM
So UMPC is Exclusive item right?
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3382/img01782.jpg

It seems so, yes.

Killboy
09-16-2009, 01:06 PM
Oddly enough I'd rather have the UMPC than the Hydrobot and the base...

Dinosoar Daz
09-16-2009, 01:51 PM
HT want to make the MotoTermintor .... but the film company didnt provide enough refrence and they [B]drop the project.


:banghead That MotoTerminator would have looked great next to my v2 Connor.

wookster
09-16-2009, 01:54 PM
1- That sucks because yeah they did too many, but too many stupid T-600 variants, can't do Kyle Reese, a fresh, unique figure, no, waste slots in the lineup for dumbass machine variants that people are sick of.
I'm pretty sure the amount of T-600's has more to do with getting some money back on the R&D and construction of the actual figure, like the Iron Man MK1 it is a small marvel of 1/6th engineering.


2- That just sucks because that's basically saying WB didn't want more merchandise made so they didn't supply HT with thorough reference material, since when does a company not want to make money.
I get the feeling that HT have been pretty frustrated with the amount of reference that has been made available to them on many licences.
But this is because of the uber secrecy of closed sets and media blackouts on images from the movie producers, The 1st Joker being a good example.


If it's really true on the reference, then it's another reason why I am forgiving with certain errors made because it seems like reference provided to HT can steer them wrong sometimes.
Yep!

Wor-Gar
09-16-2009, 01:57 PM
-Hottoys feels that they made way too many TS figure

Ya think? :slap

At least, for once, they've announced the END of the line in advance.

Of course they did that with Batman and then decided to DX another couple figures. But with TS I do believe this is it.

ironwez20
09-16-2009, 02:02 PM
is this out already

MaulFan
09-16-2009, 02:04 PM
I'm pretty sure the amount of T-600's has more to do with getting some money back on the R&D and construction of the actual figure, like the Iron Man MK1 it is a small marvel of 1/6th engineering.


I can understand recouping R&D, but if you take away T-600 variants, you have a more minimalistic line like their others and not overkill. My main point was yes, maybe they've done too many T:S figures in the line, but unique things, they didn't branch out much and there's room to do say a Reese to add character depth to the line.

Voorhees27
09-16-2009, 02:08 PM
Ya think? :slap

At least, for once, they've announced the END of the line in advance.

Of course they did that with Batman and then decided to DX another couple figures. But with TS I do believe this is it.

Good. I had a feeling they'd start making "Real" Terminators once this line was done. Now with this announcement and the new poll, we're all good to go.