MR announces the Luke EPIV LE Saber

[Jesseawilson]

and it ships in less then a month. I know this will piss off some EE owners. As it would me if I hadn't just sold my EE saber two weeks ago (I had a felling that this would happen). With them already selling for retail on EBay, who knows what this will do to the value.


Jesse

[Jesseawilson]

Which BTW can be found here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-ANH-LUKE-SKYWALKER-ELITE-EDITION-LIGHTSABRE_W0QQitemZ8740235284QQcategoryZ154QQssPa geNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


For almost $100 under retail price. Deff a good deal for it if you want the EE as the rest of us paid $525



Jesse

[hairlesswookiee]

i completely hate MR now for coming out with the EE sabers. mainly because i have all of their other sabers. and they decide to remake a couple of them,and call them elite. they said they wanted other collectors to be able to enjoy sabers they might have missed out on. **thats why the are limited editions** sorry if people missed out on them, but you dont have to ruin the value of mine by re-releasing it. there is only one more saber i will buy from them and thats the qui-gon jinn. after that im done with MR.

---sorry to vent but i was really mad when the came out with the Luke ROTJ EE.
:banghead :banghead

[The Josh]

Why didn't they when the EE version came out do like what SS does and add a special name plate or something and then do a regular version. Much in the same way SS does with their regular and exclusive versions. Though, I guess doing it this way could be considered the same thing.:confused: :confused:

[Darklord Dave]

So are the EEs better than the LEs? I'm actually considering starting to get some of these since I fell in love with the .45s. Which are the ones that are supposedly built like a real lightsaber would be?

[Darth Waller]

I think the EEs are supposed to be made out of better materials.

[FlyAndFight]

I honestly can't see myself paying five bills on these sabers, especially now that I know that MR "limited edition" don't mean squat. What a slap in the face to their collectors/customers.

[Jesseawilson]

Stick with the LE's Dave. From a good dealer they are almost half the price.

The whole reson they even did the EE sabers is because the people that came to MR late wanted to get some of the sabers that were already sold out long ago and very expensive now. The came up with this "EE" thing to be able to rerelease the sabers that people wanted and be able to charge double(aka Ebay prices) for them.


I would hurry and get Dooku's saber while its still semi reasonable and out of the current wave you can get Sidious's saber pretty cheap ($250ish). Those are the best two IMO but if your interested the Anakin and Obi ROTS sabers can be had for reasonable prices as well.

Vader ANH is still holding at about $300 which is of course a very nice saber and the very definition of Vader's saber IMO. Vader, Dooku, and Sidious are the ones I have on display right now.



Jesse

[Bannister]

I agree with jesse on the sidious. Out of all the sabers that is my favorite. The dooku is also nice, but I am hoping they make the Revenge of the Sith version that is all chrome. That one dull grey part just kept bugging me. Plus I hate the old style display cases, but if you can get one for around retail I would still buy it. As far as the Elite Editions go, I wasn't all that impressed with the Luke ANH EE. It was nice but the Anakin Ep. III LE looks just as nice and costs half the price. Plus from what I understand, the Luke ANH LE is more screen accurate judging from pictures of the gold one that they are having a contest for. Don't know if that is true, but that is what I have heard.

[spaceman]

Hi Dave -

I'll put a plug in for the Elite's. For example, with the ROTJ Luke, the LE version uses a copper-like paint, while the elite uses real machined and polished copper. The materials are usually of higher quality, with more machine work and polish. There can also be whimsical touches which I like such as the green emitter crystal on the Luke ROTJ. The LE's are supposedly more meticulously accurate to the screen props, while the EE's take a few liberties to represent an idealized version. Some choose to view this as the version you would find in the "Real" Starwars universe. I'm having flashbacks to lessons in Greek philosophy. :peace

[LOTRFan]

I sold my EE Luke, I am VERY glad I did! There has to come a time when collectible companies keep these collectible, and stop only pursuing the $$$, though I suppose for them their really isn't any motive. :rolleyes: This is much the same as when UC announced the newer unlimited Anduril, what a crock that was. :banghead

[Jesseawilson]

Well, you cant really compare the ANH and ROTJ Elite sabers. The ROTJ was worth the money while IMO the ANH was not.


Jesse

[elwood49]

Hi Dave -

I'll put a plug in for the Elite's. For example, with the ROTJ Luke, the LE version uses a copper-like paint, while the elite uses real machined and polished copper. The materials are usually of higher quality, with more machine work and polish. There can also be whimsical touches which I like such as the green emitter crystal on the Luke ROTJ. The LE's are supposedly more meticulously accurate to the screen props, while the EE's take a few liberties to represent an idealized version. Some choose to view this as the version you would find in the "Real" Starwars universe. I'm having flashbacks to lessons in Greek philosophy. :peace

This is a good summary of the Elites. They aren't based on the screen props, which is disappointing, but they are made of much higher quality materials. It's very similar to the UC Museum Collection if you are familiar with that. One other thing "Elite" about them is that they were sold only to Collector's Society members and they have very low ES's.

Get the LE's, IMO. I don't have any left currently, but I want to get the Sidious soon. I think the Sidious LE might be a good place to start for you also Dave.

[One of Nine]

After the stunt MR pulled with the AT-AT why would anyone think their items are "Limited Edtions"

[Jesseawilson]

Good point OON, but "it's all for the fans who missed out" (sarcasm off).....


Seriously though. THANK GOD Sideshow is not like MR. Could you immagine SS releasing the WIKI, Balrog, Cave Troll, Aragorn, Sam and Bill ect statues just by changing a few little details. YAY for those who missed them but a big ****** YOU to those that have been there from the beginning.

And screwing the dealers out of the LE's, or better yet screwing me out of getting the LE's from dealers really makes me hot.....



Jesse

[LOTRFan]

Good point OON, but "it's all for the fans who missed out" (sarcasm off).....

That is exactly the same scenario as the UC Anduril fiasco. :rolleyes: What a nice 1k favor. :sick

[hairlesswookiee]

After the stunt MR pulled with the AT-AT why would anyone think their items are "Limited Edtions"

they are doing the same thing with the snowspeeder. im sorry about my first post if it angered anyone. its just the fact that i waited to buy every LE saber that came out because they were limited collectibles and once they sold out--they sold out. granted i am little jealous because the EE do look great, but they should have only done new characters' lightsabers.
**think of it like this-- all you guys that pre-ordered all the SS PF statues. you waited in line to get the exclusives that sold out, or you waited to get the regular editions that sold out. wouldn't you be serisously P.O. if sideshow decided to re-issue the darth vader 5 years down the road with basically nothing changed except for sideshow calling it the "elite edition"??

[Collector Freak]

Whoa! That sucks. To think I wanted the Luke EE after missing it. :rolleyes:

[Mini-Rock]

Well, since the news is now leaked regarding the MR Luke EPIV LE 'Retailer Exclusive' Lightsaber (limited to 1500) all I'll say is it was only a matter of time before they came out with it. I remember a time when buying a "limited edition" lightsaber from MR meant something; but, MR has lost their way and my business. I'm glad I sold my EE's since they will no doubt come up with another reason to make the same sabers again. Ultimate Editions and made from titanium. LOL! I may get the Luke ANH LE...not sure yet, but Qui-Gon's saber will definitely be my last purchase from MR.

[WetaWork]

I've sold all my MR sabers except my favorite: the Mace Windu Signature Edition. The only other Star Wars MR I own is the Thermal Detonator Signature Edition.

For reasons previously mention, I've given up on MR$...

[larbob]

I only buy the EEs since shelf space is shriinking. If you
go to Rebelscum.com there are several threads which compare
EEs to LEs, etc..

[hairlesswookiee]

I've sold all my MR sabers except my favorite: the Mace Windu Signature Edition. The only other Star Wars MR I own is the Thermal Detonator Signature Edition.

For reasons previously mention, I've given up on MR$...

i agree with you-- after the qui-gon im done with the MR sabers. i have my mace windu signature and have considered selling all of them. the only MR item left besides the sabers are the Jango Fett blasters that i bought-- only because i thought the character was really cool. but the sad thing is i wont get what i paid for on some of them. i was a collectors society member since day ONE--when there were no member fees all you had to do was buy a LE from them. i might just sell all of the LE and SE sabers i own and buy the FX editions--for less than $100 its not too much money, and you can modify them with a LED now.

[Mini-Rock]

I also plan on trimming down my saber collection. The ESB Vader will be hitting eBay soon since I have the ANH to go with the SS Vader.

[hairlesswookiee]

^^^agreed, that would be a pretty cool display!! especially if you have the obi wan weathered saber too. i have a couple icons sabers im thinking about throwing on ebay-- hoping they can bring in enough money to get the car back in perfect running condition.

[Jesseawilson]

I am selling off a few as well, the Obi Weathered is the first to go on Ebay...




Jesse

[Mini-Rock]

Yeah, I got the Obi-Wan weathered saber from MR back when it was on clearance. My prop purchases will now be specific to the SS statue's released.

[hairlesswookiee]

yeah im gonna concentrate on collecting the statues/figures from this point on. i like the gentle giants that are coming out.

[Darklord Dave]

I just got a deal on a what will be my first MR lightsabers (not including FX), but I'm a bit confused why people would be selling off their stuff or getting out of collecting them because there's a new version. As I understand it the EE's are a different animal than the LEs and thus it isn't releasing the same thing. Are the CEs going to be just like the LEs?

I can see selling off old ones if the new ones are nicer, but if you like them why get rid of them?

[elwood49]

i have my mace windu signature and have considered selling all of them. i might just sell all of the LE and SE sabers i own and buy the FX editions--for less than $100 its not too much money, and you can modify them with a LED now.

If you ever sell the Mace SE, send me a PM. I've been looking to buy one of those for a while now.

[LOTRFan]

Those with an Obi Weathered PM me, I would appreciate it. :D

[Mini-Rock]

Personally, I'd never part with the weathered Obi-Wan hilt since it'll be a great companion piece to the SS Ben statue. The Mace SE I sold a long time ago and went with the LE instead; but, either of those are definite keepers as well since Mace used the same saber in EPII and III.

I don't see SS coming out with a 1/4 scale ESB Vader, so I see no need to keep the MR Vader ESB saber. Once I know what episodes a 1/4 Obi-Wan (prequel) and Anakin statues are from, I'll be thinning out those MR hilts as well.

[Darth Waller]

I can't believe how often a character's hilt changed. You'd think with all that fighting and/or peace-keeping they were involved with, that they wouldn't have time to tweak their sabers. ;)

[LOTRFan]

I can't believe how often a character's hilt changed. You'd think with all that fighting and/or peace-keeping they were involved with, that they wouldn't have time to tweak their sabers. ;)

You mean why Anakin's would magically transform into the ANH Luke saber ... do you think $$$$ was involved? :rolleyes:

[Mini-Rock]

Isn't that the truth. More changes = more money in their pockets. :)

[Jesseawilson]

Well in terms of the Luke EE you could have sold it for $700 just to turn around and buy it for $400 or lower after the LE comes out and the market plummets like it already is now just on the news of it...





Jesse

[LOTRFan]

Well in terms of the Luke EE you could have sold it for $700 just to turn around and buy it for $400 or lower after the LE comes out and the market plummets like it already is now just on the news of it...

I got about $850 for mine, it is nice, but I am actually partial to my Graflex version all things considered. :joy

[elwood49]

I got about $850 for mine, it is nice, but I am actually partial to my Graflex version all things considered. :joy

I got $1,400 for my #6 way back in July.:horror

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7532455327

Crazy huh? I should buy another one now that they are in the $400 range.

[spaceman]

I just got a deal on a what will be my first MR lightsabers (not including FX), but I'm a bit confused why people would be selling off their stuff or getting out of collecting them because there's a new version. As I understand it the EE's are a different animal than the LEs and thus it isn't releasing the same thing. Are the CEs going to be just like the LEs?

I can see selling off old ones if the new ones are nicer, but if you like them why get rid of them?

Hey Dave. It is absolutely true that there are significant differences between the Elite Vs. Limited Vs. Collectors lines. The Limited are probably most screen accurate, the Elite are a "luxury materials" line and the Collectors Edition will cut some corners for budget. The frustration comes from the perception that Master Replicas double and triple dips without announcing the full plans for a particular saber in advance. The official response (which I for one believe) is that they simply may not have decided on the full future product plan at the moment one piece is released. They DID for example acknowledge the *possibility* of an LE Luke ANH prior to sale of the Elite, although many bought the Elite 1st fearing it could be the only shot. I for one, got in a bit late and was happy to have a chance at the Luke ROTJ Elite and revamped AT-AT, both of which are amazing, and which I would prefer to the "originals". OTOH, if I had been an original owner, escpecially if I had paid high secondary market rates for the 1st Luke ROTJ, I would be upset to see it devalued, and the edition size effectively altered. For example, the Lurtz Exclusive edition size is 750, which is fairly small. Although this piece is sure to be valueable, it would be much more valueable if the other 2000 or so (?) standard edition were never made. MR consistently overdoes the variants IMO (minis are now reguar, gold, bright chrome, smoke chrome, etc.). Also essentially identical sabers are reproduced frequently as they exist in different episodes -- although this is not to my collecting taste it is NOT a complaint, as there are many who like "evolution" displays that chronicle minor variation and growth of a given hilt. That MR pays enough attention to detail to actually document such things is definitely to their credit, and quality is top notch in my experience. I think the issue is just a bit of a sour taste that collectibility has been damaged with the extensive "rereleases". As I said though, I'm not in much place to complain myself as I've purchased two of the frequently vilified products, and consider them jewels of my overall collection. :peace It's a thin line every collectible company walks, and the confidence and trust of your shoppers in the consistent retainable value of your merchandise has to be paramount.