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Deathstalker
11-10-2012, 09:47 PM
[QUOTE=Wor-Gar;5038874]Thanks guys!

Had some weird storm clouds outside just like cloud city...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/VaderFett5.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/VaderFett4.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/VaderFett3.jpg

WOW. Those pics do look awesome. Those clouds and that table look totally Bespin. Couldn't ask for better timing for those clouds to roll in for the photo shoot.

jedijim3002
11-10-2012, 09:51 PM
Wor-Gar, how tall is he now? 13 1/2? That's how tall I made mine. I removed the mid section completely like you and shortened the ball joint peg. I also took another 1/4 inch from his thighs. I cut them at the thickest point and glued them back together then taped them as well.
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc442/jedijim3002/STAR%20WARS%20FIGURES/IMG_7935.jpg
Old picture but you can see the height modded.

Centurion
11-10-2012, 09:52 PM
Very Bespin-ish indeed.

Maybe the Millennium Falcon was hiding within the clouds. :D

Wor-Gar
11-10-2012, 10:14 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys.

Yeah, those clouds really came out of nowhere; just a giant saucer shaped cloud right over my house -- you could rain falling above and a rainbow along with this wicked yellow glow. Really weird. Got some great pics though.



Wor-Gar, how tall is he now? 13 1/2?

My Vader is now 13 3/8 inches... nearly 13.5 inches. Just where Vader should be more or less. I really go by how he looks relative to other figures more than the actual inch count.

Jedijim, you have no reason to do this mod if you already got your Vader to 13.5 with the extra thigh cut. As I said, I got mine from 14.25 inches down to 13.75 with the full torso removal... but he still seemed just too darn tall... plus I liked the way King's looked, build-wise. I wish I could take a good picture. Maybe better light tomorrow.



Now that I got Vader where I want him height-wise, I sure would like to replace my robes and cape. Did I mention I hate them?

King Darkness
11-10-2012, 10:38 PM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/VaderCOMP.jpg



:clap:clap:clap

Excellent shots all around, WG. I like that you did some nice comparison shots as well. Glad you are happy with the mod in hand. :yess:.....I do agree about the robes and cape. I was able to futz them to a likable display, but they are a pain in the ass. Could definitely use an upgrade there.

Dig those Bespin cloud shots :rock

Wor-Gar
11-11-2012, 11:03 AM
Thanks King! You da man! :clap

The cape/robe material is impossible to futz and doesn't take to the water treatment. AND with the mod they are too long so even harde to futz right.

I notice that the robe is double-layered and I'm wondering if I break it apart and use just one layer if it will hold better?


I think I'm gonna send a message to ilforigno now. Dammit -- obsessed with Vader again. So much for futzing my Tusken Raider this weekend.

shockwave
11-11-2012, 01:02 PM
Thanks guys!

Had some weird storm clouds outside just like cloud city...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/VaderFett5.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/VaderFett4.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/VaderFett3.jpg





Yes, easy swap. Two things to keep in mind were:

1) King recommends that you heat the gloves before forcing them onto the forearms -- the pegs inside the gloves will fit the Kaustic forearms but it takes force. Put the gloves on BEFORE you put the armor on Vader.

2) the ball joint for the head is larger on the Kaustic than the one on the Sideshow body. No worries -- the Kaustic peg fits fine with no extra force which was surprising.

Its a very easy swap. Trickest part is futzing that damn cape and robe -- I hate them, I hate them, I hate them...

Thanks so much Wor-Gar for the info.

Love your photos of Vader & Fett. :goodpost:

King Darkness
11-11-2012, 02:44 PM
I think I'm gonna send a message to ilforigno now. Dammit -- obsessed with Vader again. So much for futzing my Tusken Raider this weekend.

Let me know how that goes. Id be interested in picking up a cape for sure.

barryo
11-11-2012, 03:27 PM
I think I'm gonna send a message to ilforigno now. Dammit -- obsessed with Vader again. So much for futzing my Tusken Raider this weekend.

absolutely nothing wrong with that at all................afterall he is and always will be the most iconic sw figure ever. so pouring a few extra bucks into him to kick him up several notches further is a good call...........:lecture

Wor-Gar
11-11-2012, 03:45 PM
"Luke... I can see your house from here."

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Vader5.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Vader3.jpg


Endor............................................. .............Hoth

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Vader4.jpghttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Vader1-1.jpg

Rorywan
11-11-2012, 04:18 PM
Fantastic pics WG, mines arriving soon, pretty excited to get one at last.

Cavlcade
11-11-2012, 04:22 PM
A quick alternative to the cloak, which I am working on at the moment.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z234/baddates/P1020038.jpg

I basically bought a cheap XXXL black tshirt from which I cut the cloak shape out of. It's still a bit long at the moment because of the height mod and it still needs hemming. Also the colour is practically the same but comes out a bit redder in the pic. But the drape is nicer than the stock cape and the material is a lot softer.

King Darkness
11-11-2012, 04:29 PM
"Luke... I can see your house from here."

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Vader5.jpg


:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

Great pics WG! Glad you're enjoying the mod :hi5:

Kuzeh
11-12-2012, 06:16 PM
Awesome pics WG!
You should also look into TonyMeis' Cape and Robe, that's the one I used for my Vader and they are awesome!

I'll be getting the KP body this week to mod mine too!!
:panic:

Wor-Gar
11-12-2012, 06:20 PM
Awesome pics WG!
You should also look into TonyMeis' Cape and Robe, that's the one I used for my Vader and they are awesome!

I'll be getting the KP body this week to mod mine too!!
:panic:

Which is the Tony Meis cape and robe again? I was looking for pictures of it and I couldn't find any -- do you have?

EDIT: I just googled and found your pictures. Very nice. But your Meis cape might be too long with the KP-02 change over. :horror:


With the conversion to KP-02, the cape is really long now and simply needs to be replaced. Robe sucks just as bad too, and they really should match.

ALERT:
ilforigno will be doing another cape run and he will be doing a new robe as well.

abake
11-12-2012, 07:32 PM
I have one of lforigno's capes. Drapes really nice, but is a bit fragile.
At any rate, it looks great.

PJB-1138
11-12-2012, 08:39 PM
Below each body is wearing a Vader boot so you can see the height each will be...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/KausticVSSVaderBODCOMP11-10-12.jpg


Here is a silhouette picture because sometimes its easy to see the difference this way. Clearly the SS body is taller.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/KausticVSSVaderBODCOMP211-10-12.jpg


Wow, thanks for the EXHAUSTIVE tutorial on how Vader looks on that Kaustic body, W.G.! I had a suspicion that the muscular body would make Vader look too beefy, but putting it up next to the modded Sideshow body clearly shows not only how close the widths of the limbs are, but how that Sideshow body is so oddly proportioned now. And even with the slightly shorter stature, the capes and robe still look fine to me.

I tried to remedy the overly broad shoulders awhile back by using parts from a regular armored Prometheus body, but they weren't really compatible. Swapping the whole shebang with the Kaustic body is obviously the way to go.

Props again to you for all the comparison shots and to King Darkness for first sharing the results to begin with. Stuff like this is what keeps me coming here all the time. :clap

kl241
11-12-2012, 08:45 PM
Curious to see a side by side with the Kaustic body mod and the Medi 2.0

Kuzeh
11-12-2012, 09:08 PM
EDIT: I just googled and found your pictures. Very nice. But your Meis cape might be too long with the KP-02 change over. :horror:

ALERT:
ilforigno will be doing another cape run and he will be doing a new robe as well.

I know... I might need to exchange it for the shorter version...



Curious to see a side by side with the Kaustic body mod and the Medi 2.0

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4061/4669812732_5407c2534c_z.jpg

kl241
11-12-2012, 09:19 PM
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4061/4669812732_5407c2534c_z.jpg

Dead serious.

Wor-Gar
11-12-2012, 11:25 PM
I have one of lforigno's capes. Drapes really nice, but is a bit fragile.

Fragile? Like it falls apart fragile?

TheFiend
11-12-2012, 11:52 PM
Damn, if I wasn't convinced by Kings pics Im definitely in now with Wor-Gars tutorial. Well done, man. Vader should be here tomorrow finally. I can't wait to get him on my unused Kaustic. It's been sitting in a box in my basement since I got him. I was going to use it for an Arnie bash but honestly I don't think it looks right for Arnie.

Wor-Gar
11-12-2012, 11:58 PM
^ Thank you, and thank you to everyone for all the kind comments! Really appreciate the notice! And more than happy to help as I truly believe in this mod.

kl241
11-13-2012, 01:00 AM
And now we'll see some compares of the real difference between both fully dressed Vaders...

Below are BEFORE AND AFTERS... each relative to the same figures, and the following picture has some guidelines to better see the height difference...


http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Before-AfterModLINECOMP2.jpg


http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Before-AfterVaderKausticModLINEDCOMP11-10-12.jpg

Wonder if the Hot Toys ankle extenders (like from Captain America) would help give it just a little bit extra height on par with the modded Pro.

jedijim3002
11-13-2012, 05:38 AM
Wonder if the Hot Toys ankle extenders (like from Captain America) would help give it just a little bit extra height on par with the modded Pro.

If anything he is perfect now. Luke is only supposed to come up to the bottom of Hans eyes and the bottom of vaders mouth piece. I'd say its spot on and don't mess with it.

abake
11-13-2012, 06:32 AM
Fragile? Like it falls apart fragile?

Yeah, the collar is very fragile, it'll tear if you're not very careful.
Of course, this was lforigno's first run, so he's probably refined them by now.

Rorywan
11-13-2012, 07:08 AM
My Vader just arrived. seriously impressed with the sharpness of the sculpt. I have a custom cape and King's recco kaustic body standing by, have to wait until I finish work..


Edit: just got him onto the Kaustic, looks good but the arms look very short IMO?

pixletwin
11-13-2012, 07:37 AM
Sorry guys but I think the kaustic body looks too short and stocky. But it is good that these custom Vader projects are so non-invasive. If you decide you don't like it, you have a good body to bash with it.

Rorywan
11-13-2012, 01:03 PM
So a question to anyone who has done the helmet mod, you just force it off yeah?

Thanks.

FLOSI
11-13-2012, 01:25 PM
Yup. It comes right off with just a little force.

Lejuan
11-13-2012, 01:36 PM
Yeah, the collar is very fragile, it'll tear if you're not very careful.
Of course, this was lforigno's first run, so he's probably refined them by now.

The collar on mine pulled away from the fabric, but a spot of fabric glue was all it needed. The chain needs careful handling too.

kl241
11-13-2012, 02:15 PM
Sorry guys but I think the kaustic body looks too short and stocky. But it is good that these custom Vader projects are so non-invasive. If you decide you don't like it, you have a good body to bash with it.

For once I agree with you. I really think those Hot Toys ankle extenders would help.

galactiboy
11-13-2012, 02:19 PM
Yup. It comes right off with just a little force.

Mine was actually loose when I opened it... there is not much glue holding them together so just getting bumped in shipping seemed to knock it off :lol

Rorywan
11-13-2012, 02:29 PM
Yup. It comes right off with just a little force.

Mine was actually loose when I opened it... there is not much glue holding them together so just getting bumped in shipping seemed to knock it off :lol




Thanks gents, I got one of Tonys custom capes as well, it's beautiful.

Wor-Gar
11-13-2012, 03:10 PM
So a question to anyone who has done the helmet mod, you just force it off yeah?

Thanks.


Yup. It comes right off with just a little force.

Yes, but work it back and forth for awhile until you hear the glue crack.

jedijim3002
11-13-2012, 05:41 PM
Yup.^ What he said.^ That's all I did.

TheFiend
11-13-2012, 10:38 PM
Hmm, really looking forward to do this mod and see what I think. It's interesting to hear other peoples take on it with the ankle extenders and the short arms. Vader was supposed to be here today but no show. DOn't you hate that? Your totally convinced it's coming a certain day and your anticipating it then nothing.

shockwave
11-14-2012, 12:00 PM
Checked online and Fed-Ex dropped off the KP02A package today. Looking forward till I get home.

:yess:

TheFiend
11-15-2012, 12:05 AM
Got Vader today. He is huuuge. :lol

No seriously, he is comically big. He towers over all my figures.

But other than that I love him! He really commands a presence on the shelf much like Keaton Batman. Your eyes keep going to him. And I don't think it's just the height.

jedijim3002
11-15-2012, 06:15 AM
He's 14 1/2 inches tall. Way too tall for Vader. Prowse was 6'4" and with boots and helmet maybe 6'7". So 13 3/16 inches would be about perfect. I was only able to mod the body down to 13 1/2 but I'm happy with it. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/15/a3ugygej.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/15/syte7yve.jpg
I also raised up Lando a bit so he is not stock height. The pro body allows you to extend the legs at the knees some. Raised him up to just over 12 inches.

jedijim3002
11-15-2012, 06:18 AM
Got Vader today. He is huuuge. :lol

No seriously, he is comically big. He towers over all my figures.

But other than that I love him! He really commands a presence on the shelf much like Keaton Batman. Your eyes keep going to him. And I don't think it's just the height.

Congrats on the figure! You will love it. And never want to let it go. (Till the next Vader comes out) damn!

TheFiend
11-16-2012, 06:37 AM
Thanks Jim. Yeah, I love this guy. I think SS did a great job.

Ok, onto removing the dome. I've tried moving it back and forth to loosen it up but this thing is really on there. I fear of breaking it, Is there anything else I should know about removing it.

King Darkness
11-16-2012, 06:54 AM
Hit it with a hammer.

jedijim3002
11-16-2012, 07:17 AM
You could try using a hairdryer on it for about 30 or 40 seconds. That might loosen the glue enough to be able to remove it. You could try boiling it in hot water but I'm not sure if that would damage the plastic or not.

Wor-Gar
11-16-2012, 12:28 PM
Thanks Jim. Yeah, I love this guy. I think SS did a great job.

Ok, onto removing the dome. I've tried moving it back and forth to loosen it up but this thing is really on there. I fear of breaking it, Is there anything else I should know about removing it.

I had the same fear. Took me awhile of working it but once I heard one little crack it made it much easier to work it off. Maybe try a slight twist. Also, wrap the helmet in a t-shirt so you don't smear/mar the shine.

pixletwin
11-16-2012, 12:32 PM
Dunking it in boiling water for 60 seconds would loosed the glue up too. That's what I would recommend if you are worried about it breaking.

King Darkness
11-16-2012, 12:34 PM
Boiling water for sixty seconds could significantly soften the dome and cause some issues. I wouldn't recommend that.

FLOSI
11-16-2012, 12:39 PM
Try Wor-Gar's method... Don't listen to Pixletwin, he's always wrong.

King Darkness
11-16-2012, 12:45 PM
:lecture


We don't call him Pixletwit for nothing.

pixletwin
11-16-2012, 12:47 PM
It won't soften anything. Boil the suckuh! :yess:

shocktrooper_au
11-16-2012, 03:39 PM
I dunked mine in hot water, I heard the glue crack almost instantly

TheFiend
11-18-2012, 06:37 AM
I had the same fear. Took me awhile of working it but once I heard one little crack it made it much easier to work it off. Maybe try a slight twist. Also, wrap the helmet in a t-shirt so you don't smear/mar the shine.


:lol

Thanks guys...I think. I suppose I'll just try Wor Gars method and if that don't work Ill try hot water.

TheFiend
11-19-2012, 10:30 PM
Ok, I moved Vader to the KP and I gotta be honest although I love the height I don't dig how the suit bunches up on his limbs and the lack of artuculation the KP has with the suit over it. Plus I really have to jam the gloves on so they don't keep falling off. Oh and his arms seem really short. I guess that's more because of the way I want to display him. Hmmm.
WHat about this removing of the torso now that everyone is talking about? :lol

Wor-Gar
11-19-2012, 10:47 PM
I think you need to place the KP02 Vader with other figures to fully appreciate the look.

Again, I was happy with my Vader after the "torso mod" but he was still too tall and didn't fit in with my other Star Wars figures. He seemed just to tower over everyone. But once I got him on the KP02 -- and admittedly the arms can be problematic with the suit -- I did recognize how Vader seemed to fit in better with the group. For me anyway.

Both King and I had to take him apart and rebuild him at least twice to get it right. I also twisted the suit on the arms very tight and then put the gloves on.

Rorywan
11-20-2012, 05:50 AM
Ok, I moved Vader to the KP and I gotta be honest although I love the height I don't dig how the suit bunches up on his limbs and the lack of artuculation the KP has with the suit over it. Plus I really have to jam the gloves on so they don't keep falling off. Oh and his arms seem really short. I guess that's more because of the way I want to display him. Hmmm.
WHat about this removing of the torso now that everyone is talking about? :lol

Hmmm.. I'm afraid I agree, I put him back on the original body, whilst I loved the height difference the arm length was the decider for me. I watched empire again last night and noted the scale relativity between his shoulders and helmet, for me at least the kaustic is too stocky and the arms waay too short?
Don't mean to be negative at all about yours King and WG. They look fantastic, I will try it out again, then I'm gonna start look at limb/torso shortening..

TheFiend
11-20-2012, 06:24 AM
I think you need to place the KP02 Vader with other figures to fully appreciate the look.

Again, I was happy with my Vader after the "torso mod" but he was still too tall and didn't fit in with my other Star Wars figures. He seemed just to tower over everyone. But once I got him on the KP02 -- and admittedly the arms can be problematic with the suit -- I did recognize how Vader seemed to fit in better with the group. For me anyway.

Both King and I had to take him apart and rebuild him at least twice to get it right. I also twisted the suit on the arms very tight and then put the gloves on.

I agree with other figures he looks much more to scale. I just really like the feel of the stock body. Like the rotation and movement of the arms and of course the length. Articulation really suffers on the KP. I even toyed with the idea of trimming the suit so it would fit better but immediately dismissed after I decided this would only be temporary. It really is a pity SS chose to use such a giant body. What the hell were they thinking? I really love the figure though. Its funny that with all the bodies on the market that one couldn't be more suitable than the modded stock body or the KP. Has anyone used anything else, that you know of?

And what needs to be done to shorten the stock body?





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jedijim3002
11-20-2012, 07:59 AM
Mine is still on the stock body. I removed the mid section piece completely. Then shortened the peg that connects them. I also cut 1/4 inch out of the thighs as I thought they were too long. I also want to shorten the arms a bit because now he looks like an ape.
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc442/jedijim3002/STAR%20WARS%20FIGURES/IMG_0240.jpghttp://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc442/jedijim3002/STAR%20WARS%20FIGURES/IMG_0239.jpghttp://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc442/jedijim3002/STAR%20WARS%20FIGURES/IMG_0232.jpg

My modded fett us 12" tall now. So you can see the difference.

pixletwin
11-20-2012, 08:41 AM
And what needs to be done to shorten the stock body?


Fiend, everything you need to know is here:

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77079

PJB has an excellent and very clear tutorial. I personally prefer his method for all the reasons you mentioned. The KP mod just doesn't look right to me.

Wor-Gar
11-20-2012, 09:24 AM
Mine is still on the stock body. I removed the mid section piece completely. Then shortened the peg that connects them. I also cut 1/4 inch out of the thighs as I thought they were too long. I also want to shorten the arms a bit because now he looks like an ape.
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc442/jedijim3002/STAR%20WARS%20FIGURES/IMG_0240.jpg

That looks very good. Yes, shortening the legs WITH the torso mod would be the only way to get Vader to a good height for other figures. But I was afraid to try cutting the thighs. The other issues obviously is that the closer you get to good height, the more problematic those long arms become. Of course they look good with the too-tall Vader, but do the torso mod and they start to hang on the long side. I haven't really tried much posing with the KP02 but I hope he can still hold a saber with both hands.

Before KP02, I figured I'd wait for the new ESB body but that looks like its still a year away from being in my hand.


Switching the KP02 arms for slimmer arms may be the way to go to really perfect that body.

Tabula Rasa
11-20-2012, 10:00 AM
Wor-Gar, I just got my KP02. How do you connect Vader's head? The peg is too large. This snag is holding me up converting him.


Addition: Didn't even solve that and I already have another problem. One of Vader's foot pegs stayed attached to the body, but the other one is still at the bottom of the boot. How do I get that out of there? Needle nose pliers can't get a good grip.

kl241
11-20-2012, 11:22 AM
I thought the KP body was too bulky. I'd much prefer articulation for dynamic lightsaber poses versus a bulky static look.

Tabula use boiling water or hairdryer to get it out.

jedijim3002
11-20-2012, 11:32 AM
Thanks War. He is now 13 1/2 inches. Much more reasonable height and still looks menacing and towering over other figures. The legs were tough. Cutting into them I had reservations but I was determined to get him where I wanted.

The KP body might be better with some regular advanced arms or even CR body arms. Might even try swapping him over to the reeve body to see how that looks.

Tabula Rasa
11-20-2012, 11:33 AM
Tabula use boiling water or hairdryer to get it out.

Yeah, I was just about to edit my post again. I used a hairdryer to get the peg out.

Still don't now about that head though. I may be able to use the hairdryer to get it on, but if I ever want to take it off again then I'd worry about it breaking.

Wor-Gar
11-20-2012, 11:53 AM
Wor-Gar, I just got my KP02. How do you connect Vader's head? The peg is too large. This snag is holding me up converting him.


Addition: Didn't even solve that and I already have another problem. One of Vader's foot pegs stayed attached to the body, but the other one is still at the bottom of the boot. How do I get that out of there? Needle nose pliers can't get a good grip.

The KP02 peg on mine was also larger than the Sideshow peg but it fit the head no problem. I just pressed it on and it held, articulated fine. If you want, you could sand the balljoint down some so it doesn't stretch out the neck hole so much in case you want to revert back to the SS Body.

The boot issue I'm not sure about -- I had no idea those pegs inside the boots even came out -- I thought they were fixed inside the boots much like the glove pegs. On mine, both pegs remained in the boots and my figure just rests on top of them. Now I may want to get in there and remove those pegs -- might lose a little more height that way too.

Maybe use a thin screwdriver to pop it out.

youbastards
11-20-2012, 12:15 PM
I haven't had time to take pix yet, but I did the KP body switch last week, so here is my 2 cents.

The pegs in both the Vader boots and gloves are removable. In fact, I boiled the boots, removed the pegs with pliers (it wasn't easy), and the KP ankle pegs fit right in the peg hole of the boots. I tried using the HT long ankle pegs, but they don't fit the KP legs.

The glove pegs came out pretty easily, and I actually used them in the KP arms. I took the loose pegs and inserted them into the KP arms (I had to heat the arms to make it easier), then it was much easier fitting the glove to the arms (again, boiling the glove first) AFTER the wrist peg was already fitted.

I haven't decided if I am going to keep Vader on the KP body, specifically because of the length/poseability of the arms. I'm hoping to spend some more time with Vader over the holiday weekend.

Tabula Rasa
11-20-2012, 12:15 PM
^
Like I said in my last post; I used a hair dryer and pair of needle nose, and the boot peg came right out. The boots actually plug into the KP's foot pegs okay-ish. Better than it just resting.

As for the neck peg; I decided to stop being a wussy, and I just heated up the socket with the hair dryer to put the head on.

For the whole glove pegs not fitting well in the KP's arm sockets. I used a rotary dremel to widen the arm holes. Now they fit just like they were made for it.

Here are my before and after shots:



http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/1VaderBefore_zps26f6703d.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2VaderAfter_zps4ecd2392.jpg

kl241
11-20-2012, 12:24 PM
I like how he looked before. Those arms just look too short and bulky.

Tabula Rasa
11-20-2012, 12:29 PM
Eh, it has it's pros and cons.
I have to like it. I didn't spend $50 on the KP for nothing. :lol

King Darkness
11-20-2012, 12:34 PM
A perfect Vader is in the eye of the beholder. Glad the KP mod worked for some of you, sorry it didn't for others. You shouldn't have a hard time selling your KP bodies though.

I think it looks much more like ANH Vader, Tab. Nice shots.

jedijim3002
11-20-2012, 12:35 PM
Very nice. Next to the TK it really shows the difference.

Tabula Rasa
11-20-2012, 12:44 PM
A perfect Vader is in the eye of the beholder. Glad the KP mod worked for some of you, sorry it didn't for others. You shouldn't have a hard time selling your KP bodies though.

I think it looks much more like ANH Vader, Tab. Nice shots.


Thanks, KD. I do like it. Sure the arms are a tad short, but the height difference really makes it worth it. I don't mind minor mods like this, but I'd never be able to do anything like what JediJim did. What with removing the abdomen part, and cutting leg sections out.

Also, like always in this hobby, pictures just don't do it justice like seeing it in person.
No matter how well photographed, things always look better in person.

shockwave
11-20-2012, 12:45 PM
:gah: I haven't done the mod yet. Tough time removing the wrist joints. Proceed w/caution....:monkey3

PJB-1138
11-20-2012, 01:49 PM
Wait a sec. Are the arms on the Kaustic body unable to hold Vader's saber with both hands? Because that's a deal-breaker for me.

Wor-Gar
11-20-2012, 01:58 PM
The pegs in both the Vader boots and gloves are removable.

That's funny, I had no idea. Thought each glove came with an internal peg. I gotta redress my Vader for the 4th time now. :slap


^
Like I said in my last post; I used a hair dryer and pair of needle nose, and the boot peg came right out. The boots actually plug into the KP's foot pegs okay-ish. Better than it just resting.

As for the neck peg; I decided to stop being a wussy, and I just heated up the socket with the hair dryer to put the head on.

For the whole glove pegs not fitting well in the KP's arm sockets. I used a rotary dremel to widen the arm holes. Now they fit just like they were made for it.

Here are my before and after shots:



http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/1VaderBefore_zps26f6703d.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2VaderAfter_zps4ecd2392.jpg

That before-and-after really shows the difference well... and I can see the pros and cons right there. Depends on which silhouette you think looks most like Vader.

In ANH, Vader seemed thicker and heavier to me. Perhaps it was the dirty helmet, perhaps its the robe outside the armor. The "before" looks more like ESB to me, while the "After" looks more like ANH.

youbastards
11-20-2012, 02:08 PM
Yeah, I like the build of the KP body more than the stock body, but the arms are potentially the deal breaker for me. The arms are a good half inch too short, and the bunched up material is additional trouble for any dynamic poses. Not that Vader HAS many dynamic poses in ANH.

I had the same issue with arm length on my Luke Cage custom, it's just a design issue with the KP02 bodies. The length of the upper arm from shoulder to elbow is just too short.

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc474/justinchuffman/One%20Sixth%20Pix/HeroesforHire.jpg

King Darkness
11-20-2012, 02:10 PM
In ANH, Vader seemed thicker and heavier to me. Perhaps it was the dirty helmet, perhaps its the robe outside the armor. The "before" looks more like ESB to me, while the "After" looks more like ANH.


:goodpost:

Vader also had much more sloaped shoulders in ANH, he didn't have the wider, squared shoulders till ESB. Like I have been saying, Vader changes a lot, often from scene to scene, lighting, camera angle etc. Google searching images doenst really say much, watch the movies and really study Vader, espeically in ANH.

But anyway, to each their own. As long as said person is happy with their Vader thats all that matters :hi5:

jedijim3002
11-20-2012, 02:12 PM
^^Exactly. Good post. ^^

Wor-Gar
11-20-2012, 02:21 PM
Is that Iron Fist up there?

As to arm length, on mine, the hands hang right down to the bottom of the crotch like they did on the old body. I'm not certain I have the gloves popped in all the way though. Is it that people think they look short when you have him reaching out?

I do see the problem with the material bunching up, which adds to the already crazy big biceps. My trick was to twist the sleeves really tight first, then shove the gloves on. The twisting kept the material from bunching up and looking fat and messy. Maybe try that to see if it helps.


Anyway, I think the two pictures above really illustrate what you get from either mod. Save each picture and preview them so you can click back and forth and really see the difference in build. Then decide what works for you.

Whatever the case, just remember there's another Vader coming...

Too Much Garlic
11-20-2012, 02:33 PM
Dave Prowse's arms are actually quite long.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader%20Reference/th_DaveProwseCast-Body.jpg (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader%20Reference/DaveProwseCast-Body.jpg)

And they used two styles in ESB regarding the armor - bells tucked under the armor like ANH and bells level with the armor.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/th_Unsorted-008.jpg (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/Unsorted-008.jpg) http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/th_Unsorted-001.jpg (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/Unsorted-001.jpg)

Wor-Gar
11-20-2012, 02:50 PM
Dave Prowse's arms are actually quite long.

And they used two styles in ESB regarding the armor - bells tucked under the armor like ANH and bells level with the armor.


I don't know what this means. His arms look normal, hands hang at his croth like most everyone. And we were talking about the robe under or over the armor, not the shoulder "bells".

Too Much Garlic
11-20-2012, 03:51 PM
I don't know what this means. His arms look normal, hands hang at his croth like most everyone.
You can certainly believe that all you want, doesn't make it correct.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/th_Vader09.jpg (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/Vader09.jpg)

EDIT: Sorry, that was rather snarky and I apologize for that. Having worked on a sculpt using the actors actual measurements during shooting of Empire Strikes back, there is no mistaking that his arms are rather long compared to others whose hands are about level with their crotch, his are definitely below that.


And we were talking about the robe under or over the armor, not the shoulder "bells".
I was replying to the below comment:

Vader also had much more sloaped shoulders in ANH, he didn't have the wider, squared shoulders till ESB.

Wor-Gar
11-20-2012, 04:32 PM
EDIT: Sorry, that was rather snarky and I apologize for that.

Appreciate that, thank you.

I would defer to you then about the length as you have actual experience. The pic you posted kind of cheats with the crotch guard riding so high but I don't want to get into a tit for tat as I'm no expert. I'm speaking solely from my POV only. The Vader figure has all kinds of issues if you really get into it, so hands that ride a little short or not may simply be relative.

King Darkness
11-20-2012, 07:46 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180635.jpg



:rock

Wor-Gar
11-20-2012, 08:16 PM
He can reach! He can reach!

Now give that man a reach-around!

:D

jedijim3002
11-20-2012, 08:23 PM
You can certainly believe that all you want, doesn't make it correct.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/th_Vader09.jpg (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/Vader09.jpg)

EDIT: Sorry, that was rather snarky and I apologize for that. Having worked on a sculpt using the actors actual measurements during shooting of Empire Strikes back, there is no mistaking that his arms are rather long compared to others whose hands are about level with their crotch, his are definitely below that.


I was replying to the below comment:

Wow. That pic shows just how big the helmet is compared to the rest of him.

TheFiend
11-20-2012, 09:13 PM
Fiend, everything you need to know is here:

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77079

PJB has an excellent and very clear tutorial. I personally prefer his method for all the reasons you mentioned. The KP mod just doesn't look right to me.

Cheers for the link pix. I see I have to invest in a Stormy body. I thought it was just removing something. WIll a clone body do? I haven't checked the prices on either.


Mine is still on the stock body. I removed the mid section piece completely. Then shortened the peg that connects them. I also cut 1/4 inch out of the thighs as I thought they were too long. I also want to shorten the arms a bit because now he looks like an ape.


Could you explain what you did a little more if you don't mind. Did you put the stormy torso in? And what peg are you referring to? Thanks.

pixletwin
11-20-2012, 09:34 PM
Clone body is exactly what I used. :)

pixletwin
11-20-2012, 09:36 PM
Could you explain what you did a little more if you don't mind. Did you put the stormy torso in? And what peg are you referring to? Thanks.

Right. Basically you are removing Vaders stomach (2 pieces mid section) and swapping them with the clone/stormie stomach (2 pieces mid section) just the pictures show in the link I posted. Then you wrap it with gorilla tape to add bulk.

TheFiend
11-20-2012, 09:54 PM
Ok, I thought so. It was just the way jim worded it it sounded like he may have did something different. Thanks. Im off to look for a clone body.

devilof76
11-20-2012, 10:48 PM
If anyone who replaced the dome with a Hasbro dome would like to get rid of their Sideshow dome, please let me know.

King Darkness
11-20-2012, 10:50 PM
If anyone who replaced the dome with a Hasbro dome would like to get rid of their Sideshow dome, please let devilof76 know.

devilof76
11-20-2012, 11:02 PM
Or you can let King Darkness know, and he will let me know.

Thanks.

King Darkness
11-20-2012, 11:05 PM
Or you can let me know, and I will let devilof76 know.

Thanks.

devilof76
11-20-2012, 11:12 PM
Actually, just send the dome to King Darkness. He will gladly pay whatever you ask.

King Darkness
11-20-2012, 11:25 PM
Actually, never mind. I'm not helping devilof76 no mores :pfft:

devilof76
11-20-2012, 11:26 PM
If you bought me an extra Vader dome, I would have been your friend. :(

King Darkness
11-20-2012, 11:28 PM
I have enough friends.

devilof76
11-20-2012, 11:37 PM
I'm not a very good friend anyway.

Tabula Rasa
11-21-2012, 01:05 AM
:lol:rotfl:lol

You two always make me laugh my ass off.

jkno
11-21-2012, 05:07 AM
I want a Hasbro Vader dome too. :) But how the hell can I remove the SS one, maybe with a hairdryer?

shocktrooper_au
11-21-2012, 05:18 AM
I want a Hasbro Vader dome too. :) But how the hell can I remove the SS one, maybe with a hairdryer?

Dipped in in boiled water from the kettle, after a few seconds I heard the glue cracking the rest was easy

jedijim3002
11-21-2012, 05:31 AM
Ok, I thought so. It was just the way jim worded it it sounded like he may have did something different. Thanks. Im off to look for a clone body.

Fiend. I DID do something different from pix. I removed one of the midsections completely and did not replace it at all. There is a ball jointed post that connects the midsections together, like a neck post or foot pegs, with the chest and pelvis for articulation. I took mine out and cut it to size so it would still have articulation but be a shorter torso.

It's a very intensive mod and if your willing to do it I can walk you through. I also chopped the thighs down. Cutting away another extra 1/4 inch of their length. Then I epoxied them together. Once it was all done I thought, man I should have just switched bodies and sold the damn SS Vader body!

jkno
11-21-2012, 06:53 AM
Dipped in in boiled water from the kettle, after a few seconds I heard the glue cracking the rest was easy

No damage on the paint?

pixletwin
11-21-2012, 06:58 AM
Fiend. I DID do something different from pix. I removed one of the midsections completely and did not replace it at all. There is a ball jointed post that connects the midsections together, like a neck post or foot pegs, with the chest and pelvis for articulation. I took mine out and cut it to size so it would still have articulation but be a shorter torso.

It's a very intensive mod and if your willing to do it I can walk you through. I also chopped the thighs down. Cutting away another extra 1/4 inch of their length. Then I epoxied them together. Once it was all done I thought, man I should have just switched bodies and sold the damn SS Vader body!

IMO if you mod the body further than the basic mod he starts to look like his legs are too long. But to each his own.

jedijim3002
11-21-2012, 07:37 AM
IMO if you mod the body further than the basic mod he starts to look like his legs are too long. But to each his own.

Exactly. That's why I had to shorten the legs. Vader should only be at most 13 3/16.

TheFiend
11-21-2012, 03:44 PM
Fiend. I DID do something different from pix. I removed one of the midsections completely and did not replace it at all. There is a ball jointed post that connects the midsections together, like a neck post or foot pegs, with the chest and pelvis for articulation. I took mine out and cut it to size so it would still have articulation but be a shorter torso.

It's a very intensive mod and if your willing to do it I can walk you through. I also chopped the thighs down. Cutting away another extra 1/4 inch of their length. Then I epoxied them together. Once it was all done I thought, man I should have just switched bodies and sold the damn SS Vader body!

Hmm, I think I may have to take mine apart to see what your talking about. I kinda have an idea though. SO the only thing holding the midsection together is a barbell?? And with your mod you think that leg shortening is mandatory?

Wor-Gar
11-21-2012, 03:52 PM
Hmm, I think I may have to take mine apart to see what your talking about. I kinda have an idea though. SO the only thing holding the midsection together is a barbell?? And with your mod you think that leg shortening is mandatory?

I did the same mod -- meaning take the middle section out completely -- but I literally put the body together but taping it -- over the shoulders and under th balls! I also wrapped some folded paper towels about the midsection to fill him out a bit. He couldn't swivel -- but you'll never twist him like that with all his gear on. It held firm and the suit secured it even more. No need to make a meal out of this.

TheFiend
11-21-2012, 04:02 PM
You took both pieces out? I saw you pic and I see the chest and crotch area with the paper towel in the middles. Is the paper towels wrapped around anything?

Too Much Garlic
11-21-2012, 04:32 PM
I would defer to you then about the length as you have actual experience. The pic you posted kind of cheats with the crotch guard riding so high but I don't want to get into a tit for tat as I'm no expert. I'm speaking solely from my POV only. The Vader figure has all kinds of issues if you really get into it, so hands that ride a little short or not may simply be relative.

True, the cod piece is sitting higher in ANH than in ESB, but even in ESB it shows his arms being long.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/th_Poster-001.jpg (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/Poster-001.jpg)

And this shot is from years later, from one of the videogames.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/th_Prowse-RebelAssaultII-005.jpg (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/Prowse-RebelAssaultII-005.jpg)

TheFiend
11-21-2012, 07:17 PM
You took both pieces out? I saw you pic and I see the chest and crotch area with the paper towel in the middles. Is the paper towels wrapped around anything?

Nevermind, Im stupid. :lol Looking at the body in hand again I see that you had to have left the stomach part in.


In other news, I got the Vader dome off. Now do I just shave down the inner part of the dome? Do I shave all of it of completely so it's fairly smooth against the inside of the dome or is it a trial and error type thing?

TheFiend
11-21-2012, 08:08 PM
Ok, I just removed one of the mid-section pieces, taped it together and did the helmet mod. I gotta say, I am very happy with the results. He's still a bit tall but I can live with it. I'd rather have slightly too tall with articulation than the right height with small arms and very little articulation. Not bashing Kings and WG's KP mod because I think they look great. It's just not for me. :)

pixletwin
11-21-2012, 08:47 PM
Ok, I just removed one of the mid-section pieces, taped it together and did the helmet mod. I gotta say, I am very happy with the results. He's still a bit tall but I can live with it. I'd rather have slightly too tall with articulation than the right height with small arms and very little articulation.

:clap:clap:clap

If you don't mind my asking what did you do to the helmet? What tools did you use? :date

Wor-Gar
11-21-2012, 11:00 PM
Ok, I just removed one of the mid-section pieces, taped it together and did the helmet mod. I gotta say, I am very happy with the results. He's still a bit tall but I can live with it. I'd rather have slightly too tall with articulation than the right height with small arms and very little articulation. Not bashing Kings and WG's KP mod because I think they look great. It's just not for me. :)

:clap Happy at last.

Now let's see some pics with that super articulation, like try to have him hold his saber with both hands.

Tabula Rasa
11-22-2012, 07:35 AM
Wait a sec. Are the arms on the Kaustic body unable to hold Vader's saber with both hands? Because that's a deal-breaker for me.

It's a bit tougher to get the pose locked in than before, but I remember it being a pain in the ass to get a decent two-handed pose with the stock body anyway. Here are multiple pics of two representations of the KP-02 holding the saber two-handed.


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed01_zps755811e9.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed02_zps78ffce8f.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed03_zps64986ec9.jpg




http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed04_zps92de4b61.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed05_zpsfeba95d0.jpg




Hey, Wor-Gar, how about we get lforigno to make a new body suit too? The bunched up arm material is getting obnoxious. :lol

jedijim3002
11-22-2012, 07:42 AM
I think it may be the size of the gloves that's messing this look up. The glove hands just look too big and long for this. His gloves only went about halfway up his forearm didn't they? Not all the way to the elbow. Right?

jedijim3002
11-22-2012, 07:44 AM
It's a bit tougher to get the pose locked in than before, but I remember it being a pain in the ass to get a decent two-handed pose with the stock body anyway. Here are multiple pics of two representations of the KP-02 holding the saber two-handed.


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed01_zps755811e9.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed02_zps78ffce8f.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed03_zps64986ec9.jpg




http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed04_zps92de4b61.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed05_zpsfeba95d0.jpg




Hey, Wor-Gar, how about we get lforigno to make a new body suit too? The bunched up arm material is getting obnoxious. :lol

Nice pics though. Helmet mod and all. Question. Is he are to look down more now with this new body? Or does the chest armor still get in the way?

Tabula Rasa
11-22-2012, 07:47 AM
I think it may be the size of the gloves that's messing this look up. The glove hands just look too big and long for this. His gloves only went about halfway up his forearm didn't they? Not all the way to the elbow. Right?


I thought I read that there were two different kinds of gloves. Long ones and short. The short were used for Empire on up, but SS went with the long for the ANH figure. This is all iIrc.


Nice pics though. Helmet mod and all. Question. Is he are to look down more now with this new body? Or does the chest armor still get in the way?


This is as far down as I can get it. It does seem to be the tiniest bit better than before. That always irritated me.

Tabula Rasa
11-22-2012, 09:05 AM
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Showcase/Skywalkers_zpsba494c11.jpg?t=1353600218

kl241
11-22-2012, 10:23 AM
Those T-Rex arms on the KP2 just don't look right.

Tabula Rasa
11-22-2012, 10:28 AM
So you've said.

jedijim3002
11-22-2012, 10:34 AM
Those T-Rex arms on the KP2 just don't look right.

T-Rex arms or CeeLo Green?
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/23/ypyze3en.jpg

pixletwin
11-22-2012, 10:55 AM
:lol:lol:lol

Wor-Gar
11-22-2012, 12:24 PM
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed05_zpsfeba95d0.jpg


Hey, Wor-Gar, how about we get lforigno to make a new body suit too? The bunched up arm material is getting obnoxious. :lol


Wow -- that's better than I would have imagined you'd get out of that big body. Cool!

I'd love a new suit. Mine is fraying and coming apart all over the place. Good thing its mostly covered.

I do think the arms -- biceps -- are too big and restrictive, especially with the suit. Would be nice to swap those arms for slimmer one like they were doing for the Indy mods.

Wor-Gar
11-22-2012, 12:32 PM
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=990&pictureid=14116

The gloves on the SS were always a bit too long.

Wor-Gar
11-22-2012, 12:36 PM
Here are some quick shots of my Vader that I took today:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_16751.JPG

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_1679.JPG

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMG_16713.JPG


Here's some old pics from 2009 of the original figure, just to put this into perspective.

Does that really look superior to the mods we're doing?

pixletwin
11-22-2012, 12:49 PM
There are some pros and some cons to the KP mod, but it really is just down to a matter if taste. We do what we can and (whatever that may be) as long as we are happy with the results that is what is important.

Wor-Gar
11-22-2012, 01:01 PM
There are some pros and some cons to the KP mod, but it really is just down to a matter if taste. We do what we can and (whatever that may be) as long as we are happy with the results that is what is important.

I agree. Just trying to put the repetitive bashing in its place. None of these Vaders look dead on. This thing still looks like a toy. Some look better in favorable lighting. The beauty here really is in the beholder's eye.

So pick your poison based on whether you want to hide Vader's short arms under his cape or live with the knowledge that at any time you could raise Vader's arms over his head even though you never will.

pixletwin
11-22-2012, 01:33 PM
In the spirit of the thread, I recently reposed (I just threw a stormie in, didn't really take the time yet to pose him) ... but again, sorry, crappy camera/photographer:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r276/pixletwin/2012-11-22113817.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r276/pixletwin/2012-11-22113836.jpg

TheFiend
11-22-2012, 01:50 PM
:clap:clap:clap

If you don't mind my asking what did you do to the helmet? What tools did you use? :date

I just wiggled the dome back and forth like WG said until I heard a crack. That was the worst part I thought I was going to break it. Then I used my Dremel to grind down the inside of the dome that makes it sit high and holds it in position. If you don't have a dremel you gotta get one. They are a collectors best friend in this hobby. They are sooo useful and makes your job much easier. I lucked out and my brother gave me one with an extra case with tons of attachments. I haven't glued the dome yet so if you want I can take a pic of what the inside looks like now. It will have to wait until tomorrow though.



:clap Happy at last.

Now let's see some pics with that super articulation, like try to have him hold his saber with both hands.

Tomorrow. :)

Sent from my LG-E739 using Fiendtalk 2

pixletwin
11-22-2012, 02:15 PM
Yes please. Pictures would be awesome! :)

shockwave
11-22-2012, 03:55 PM
Has anyone tried to trim a little bit off Vader's oven mitts...I mean the gloves.

:monkey3

jedijim3002
11-22-2012, 03:57 PM
Has anyone tried to trim a little bit off Vader's oven mitts...I mean the gloves.

:monkey3

Haaaa!!! I was thinking the same thing!! It looks like there are only 9 rows of seams for vaders gloves in ANH. The figure has like 11.

shockwave
11-22-2012, 04:01 PM
Haaaa!!! I was thinking the same thing!! It looks like there are only 9 rows of seams for vaders gloves in ANH. The figure has like 11.

Honestly Jedijim3002 I am tempted to carefully remove a row or two.

:monkey1

jedijim3002
11-22-2012, 04:58 PM
I hear ya. But will that fix the problem? Not sure.

shockwave
11-22-2012, 07:35 PM
I hear ya. But will that fix the problem? Not sure.


Just thinking out-loud but this mod might make the arms look a tad longer on the KP-02 body? :dunno

I was able to put the KP-02 body together. The only problem I have is the head. I think the ball joint is slightly bigger and I can snap the head in place. I don't want to force it too much or I might break/split the mask. Any helpful tips would be greatly appreciated. I hope this can be resolved.

Thanks so much.

jedijim3002
11-22-2012, 09:07 PM
I think someone boiled the head or neck post and it popped right in. Good to hear you got it together. I might have to try it myself too.

Wor-Gar
11-23-2012, 12:24 AM
Just thinking out-loud but this mod might make the arms look a tad longer on the KP-02 body? :dunno

I was able to put the KP-02 body together. The only problem I have is the head. I think the ball joint is slightly bigger and I can snap the head in place. I don't want to force it too much or I might break/split the mask. Any helpful tips would be greatly appreciated. I hope this can be resolved.

Thanks so much.

Just push down, it will go right in.

What do you hink of the KP body?

King Darkness
11-23-2012, 12:29 AM
We do what we can and (whatever that may be) as long as we are happy with the results that is what is important.



I agree. Just trying to put the repetitive bashing in its place. None of these Vaders look dead on. This thing still looks like a toy. Some look better in favorable lighting. The beauty here really is in the beholder's eye.

I already said as much a couple times, but some people would rather make snide comments than add anything productive. Meh....:dunno...Typical of the mentality around here though.

devilof76
11-23-2012, 04:58 AM
Snidely tried to ruin Yogi's first Christmas. :mad:

shockwave
11-23-2012, 05:10 AM
Just push down, it will go right in.

What do you hink of the KP body?

I like the body Wor-Gar. I was able to remove the wrist pegs. I made the wrist/forearm hole slightly bigger for the Vader gloves to fit.

Thanks Jedijim3002 I'm happy with the results. I am 90% complete with the mod.

As for the head honestly I have been trying hard to fit the Vader head into the KP02 neck....w/o trying to break the helmet.

I will try again. Thanks everyone.

:wave

jedijim3002
11-23-2012, 05:25 AM
That's awesome. My KP body has the Thor arms cause I did the swap mod on him. Maybe the Thor arms won't be so bulky but they will still have articulation issues and may be even shorter. Dunno. I'm thinking of trying the reeve body but haven't had any time yet.

Greg. I sent more pics to your email and its all going out today. Looks friggin sweet. Better than mine actually. I'm jealous.

shockwave
11-23-2012, 05:28 AM
That's awesome. My KP body has the Thor arms cause I did the swap mod on him. Maybe the Thor arms won't be so bulky but they will still have articulation issues and may be even shorter. Dunno. I'm thinking of trying the reeve body but haven't had any time yet.

Greg. I sent more pics to your email and its all going out today. Looks friggin sweet. Better than mine actually. I'm jealous.


Yes I received your email and responded. Thanks so much. I have a section for my Sith collection on my bookcase.

Thanks so much.

:yess:

Once I get the helmet on I will take some craptacular pics. The Vader figure is smaller (maybe shorter legs) but I love it.

Tabula Rasa
11-23-2012, 05:40 AM
...
As for the head honestly I have been trying hard to fit the Vader head into the KP02 neck....w/o trying to break the helmet.

I will try again. Thanks everyone.

:wave


I was having the same issue, and was beginning to think it impossible. Then, I steeled myself, and heated up the socket on the head with a hair dryer... it then went on smooth as butter.

shockwave
11-23-2012, 08:05 AM
I was having the same issue, and was beginning to think it impossible. Then, I steeled myself, and heated up the socket on the head with a hair dryer... it then went on smooth as butter.

Thanks Tabula Rasa. I will try that instead.

TheFiend
11-23-2012, 10:12 AM
Yes please. Pictures would be awesome! :)

Ok, I didn't take a before pic but I don't really think it's needed as you'll see what I shaved down.

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Sideshow%20Darth%20Vader/IMG_2424.jpg

I just shaved down the T shaped thing. That's what makes the dome sit high. It's really that simple. I haven't decided if Im going to go for a more ANH look or ESB/ROTJ look for the dome. That's why I haven't glued it yet.

And here is some pics. Nothing special I didn't have a lot of time so I'll take something more interesting later.

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Sideshow%20Darth%20Vader/IMG_2429.jpg

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Sideshow%20Darth%20Vader/IMG_2432.jpg

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Sideshow%20Darth%20Vader/IMG_2433.jpg

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Sideshow%20Darth%20Vader/IMG_2444.jpg

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Hot%20Toys%20Luke%20Skywalker%20DX07/IMG_2447.jpg

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Hot%20Toys%20Luke%20Skywalker%20DX07/IMG_2450.jpg

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Hot%20Toys%20Luke%20Skywalker%20DX07/IMG_2452.jpg

Don't make me destroy you.


Oh and you guys are right, the cape and robes suck! If I have the time this weekend I'll try to cut my own cape out.

highlander1
11-23-2012, 10:22 AM
look's good fiend nice pics....congrats on darth and luke.

pixletwin
11-23-2012, 12:14 PM
Awesome Fiend. Thanks for the pics. :rock

Wor-Gar
11-23-2012, 01:06 PM
Great pics, Fiend.

So I lost track; you on the modded SS body, right?

PJB-1138
11-23-2012, 03:43 PM
Thanks for posting these pics, T.R. The slightly shorter arms really don't bother me as much as my Vader's present gargantuan size and Frankenstein-like proportions.

But I don't remember King Darkness and Wor-Gar mentioning having to switch out the wrist pegs on the Sideshow Vader hands and boots. I had assumed they were molded into those parts as a single piece!


It's a bit tougher to get the pose locked in than before, but I remember it being a pain in the ass to get a decent two-handed pose with the stock body anyway. Here are multiple pics of two representations of the KP-02 holding the saber two-handed.


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed01_zps755811e9.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed02_zps78ffce8f.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed03_zps64986ec9.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed04_zps92de4b61.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll250/Jedah-Kalm/Collectable%20Mods/2Handed05_zpsfeba95d0.jpg

Wor-Gar
11-23-2012, 05:38 PM
But I don't remember King Darkness and Wor-Gar mentioning having to switch out the wrist pegs on the Sideshow Vader hands and boots. I had assumed they were molded into those parts as a single piece!

That's what I thought and my boot and glove pegs are still in there because I didn't realize you could take them out. No real need to.

Tabula Rasa
11-24-2012, 05:59 AM
Yeah, there's no need to take the pegs out of the gloves. I did with the boots though. Also, I widened the holes in the arms so that the glove pegs fit in much better.

TheFiend
11-24-2012, 07:22 AM
look's good fiend nice pics....congrats on darth and luke.


Awesome Fiend. Thanks for the pics. :rock


Great pics, Fiend.

So I lost track; you on the modded SS body, right?


Thanks guys. :duff:

@WG Yeah, I did the same mod you did. Just took out on of the mid-sections and taped the body together. I used the black electrical tape and wrapped it very tight. You can't tell I even did anything when handling it.

More pics.

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Sideshow%20Darth%20Vader/IMG_2492.jpg

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Sideshow%20Darth%20Vader/IMG_2468.jpg

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd494/thefiendclub1/Sideshow%20Darth%20Vader/IMG_2488.jpg

shockwave
11-24-2012, 09:17 AM
Please excuse my novice pics. Here is Vader on the KP02 body. The chain came off on the cape. I also took a pic of Vader w/my custom Fett.

canadaclone
11-24-2012, 03:27 PM
Even when they annouce the new Vader for PO - we are still going to have to wait about 6 months to get him...:(

Lordscum
11-24-2012, 08:07 PM
Can anyone recommend anyone here that can do the helmet mod or at least give good instructions on how to do it?

Thanks

Lordscum
11-25-2012, 02:27 PM
The response to my request is overwhelming.

kl241
11-25-2012, 02:33 PM
That's because this question gets asked every five pages when the answer can be found here:

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116335

Tabula Rasa
11-26-2012, 05:54 AM
Yeah, it's been answered time and again. A simple search of the thread would've found what you were looking for. In fact, it was just being talked about only a couple pages back.

jedijim3002
11-26-2012, 07:49 AM
Needs to be futzed a bit but it looks good shock. Very good proportions.

PJB-1138
11-28-2012, 05:43 PM
Yeah, there's no need to take the pegs out of the gloves. I did with the boots though. Also, I widened the holes in the arms so that the glove pegs fit in much better.

My KP body arrived today from BlackOps Toys. Got it for $42 during a secret Cyber Monday sale and had it shipped a mere couple hours after placing my order. They've oddly jacked the price to $56 now that Monkey Depot has sold out of them. I guess those are the breaks!

As has been mentioned here before, the body is a perfect height for Vader. The neck wrap is a tight fit and the Vader head needed a little heat to fit onto the KP neck peg, but you actually get better articulation for Vader to gaze downward at his regular-sized 1/6 minions.

While I was surprised how well most of Sideshow's parts look and fit on the Kaustic body, IMHO it really is essential to pull the pegs from Vader's gloves and boots to have the whole figure hold itself together. The glove pegs are too long to fit securely onto the Kaustic wrist joints, causing the hands to easily fall off. And since I don't have a pair of needle nose pliers, I'm gonna have to make a run to the store before my Vader can be completed.

I should also add that while I admit there is a little loss in articulation at the shoulders, it's partially due to the width of the chest plate getting in between the upper arms coming together for those two-handed lightsaber poses. Also, the arms may have looked a little on the short side in Wor-Gar's photos due to the removal of the wrist ball joint. Putting them back in and using them to connect to Vader's gloves should solve the issue (the KP shoulder joint also has a strange tendency to pull the arms up a little in at a neutral position; the arms are actually capable of hanging down to those Prowse-like proportions). Finally, in order to avoid bunching up the sleeves, I took the drastic step of trimming a 1/4" off the cuff. There's no going back for me now!

Sorry if my observations went a little overboard, but I hope these tips will help out the next guy to attempt this body swap. Even without the secured wrist and ankle joints, Vader is vastly improved on this body. I'll get photos up as soon as he's all finished.

Wor-Gar
11-28-2012, 06:36 PM
My KP body arrived today from BlackOps Toys. Got it for $42 during a secret Cyber Monday sale and had it shipped a mere couple hours after placing my order. They've oddly jacked the price to $56 now that Monkey Depot has sold out of them. I guess those are the breaks!

As has been mentioned here before, the body is a perfect height for Vader. The neck wrap is a tight fit and the Vader head needed a little heat to fit onto the KP neck peg, but you actually get better articulation for Vader to gaze downward at his regular-sized 1/6 minions.

While I was surprised how well most of Sideshow's parts look and fit on the Kaustic body, IMHO it really is essential to pull the pegs from Vader's gloves and boots to have the whole figure hold itself together. The glove pegs are too long to fit securely onto the Kaustic wrist joints, causing the hands to easily fall off. And since I don't have a pair of needle nose pliers, I'm gonna have to make a run to the store before my Vader can be completed.

I should also add that while I admit there is a little loss in articulation at the shoulders, it's partially due to the width of the chest plate getting in between the upper arms coming together for those two-handed lightsaber poses. Also, the arms may have looked a little on the short side in Wor-Gar's photos due to the removal of the wrist ball joint. Putting them back in and using them to connect to Vader's gloves should solve the issue (the KP shoulder joint also has a strange tendency to pull the arms up a little in at a neutral position; the arms are actually capable of hanging down to those Prowse-like proportions). Finally, in order to avoid bunching up the sleeves, I took the drastic step of trimming a 1/4" off the cuff. There's no going back for me now!

Sorry if my observations went a little overboard, but I hope these tips will help out the next guy to attempt this body swap. Even without the secured wrist and ankle joints, Vader is vastly improved on this body. I'll get photos up as soon as he's all finished.

Glad you like the body. Hope you plan to take some pictures. This Vader seems to have been the never-ending conversion between helmet, torso and now full body mods.

One correction above: I did not and still haven't removed the wrist ball joint peg inside the gloves. Not sure why Vader has 'short arms' in my pics, you'd think it would be the opposite.

kl241
11-28-2012, 06:46 PM
Try cutting a couple of "rungs" off the ends of the gloves with an exacto.

PJB-1138
11-28-2012, 06:51 PM
Glad you like the body. Hope you plan to take some pictures. This Vader seems to have been the never-ending conversion between helmet, torso and now full body mods.

One correction above: I did not and still haven't removed the wrist ball joint peg inside the gloves. Not sure why Vader has 'short arms' in my pics, you'd think it would be the opposite.

Sorry, bro. I was referring to the Kaustic wrist ball joint that would have had to be removed from the KP forearm in order to accommodate the peg inside Vader's gloves. I would guess it would add another 1/8" to Vader's arm length and avoid the Cee Lo Green look in your photo here (which I hadn't noticed until others pointed it out):

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/VaderCOMP.jpg

BTW, cutting the sleeves definitely solves that bunched up look. C'mon, Wor-Gar, get those scissors out!

Wor-Gar
11-28-2012, 09:02 PM
Try cutting a couple of "rungs" off the ends of the gloves with an exacto.

I think I will. Couldn't hurt.



BTW, cutting the sleeves definitely solves that bunched up look. C'mon, Wor-Gar, get those scissors out!

I already cut the sleeves when I first did the mod. Got no problem butchering this thing until it looks right. I definitely think trimming the gloves themselves might be the key at this point. Got to figure out which pair I want to doctor. Maybe not the EX. :)

chRd
11-29-2012, 12:51 AM
ill give it to you for having the guts to be cutting and doing heavy mods on a vader piece. ill probably let mine be (apart from the minor mods - dome lowered and iforigno cape) and just wait for the new vader 1/6

shockwave
11-29-2012, 05:05 AM
Try cutting a couple of "rungs" off the ends of the gloves with an exacto.

I was thinking the same thing too. I will have to proceed with absolute caution....:monkey3

Tabula Rasa
11-29-2012, 05:49 AM
IMHO it really is essential to pull the pegs from Vader's gloves and boots to have the whole figure hold itself together. The glove pegs are too long to fit securely onto the Kaustic wrist joints, causing the hands to easily fall off. And since I don't have a pair of needle nose pliers, I'm gonna have to make a run to the store before my Vader can be completed.





I dremeled the wrist holes on my KP a little bit to make the Vader wrist pegs fit in perfectly.

bruin1773
12-01-2012, 04:52 PM
If anyone is in need I have a spare KP02 (for full body swap) and a spare bacara body (I think it can be bashed for torso mod) for cheap, PM me if interested :)

shockwave
12-02-2012, 03:38 PM
So I trimmed one of Vader's gloves; just one ring. It doesn't look great to me. It kind of makes the arms even shorter. Maybe trimming the forearm body suit so the gloves will look better. Not too much bunched up?

:dunno

abake
12-02-2012, 06:10 PM
Could you post some pics?
I'd be interested to see how the trimmed part looks.

shockwave
12-02-2012, 06:40 PM
Could you post some pics?
I'd be interested to see how the trimmed part looks.

I took a blade and cut around very slowly one ring on the glove. Much to my surprise it didn't come out that bad. But now I have one Vader glove slightly shorter. :lol

Tabula Rasa
12-03-2012, 05:51 AM
I would never do any permanent mod to any piece of Vader. I've only done reversible modifications.

PJB-1138
12-03-2012, 05:19 PM
Here are pics of my Vader on the Kaustic body. Thanks again to King Darkness for first reporting the results here since I'm very pleased with the results. As others have correctly pointed out, the height and build are perfect and, thanks to Tabula Rasa for noticing how the pegs can be removed from the boots and gloves, connecting the wrist and ankle joints weren't too difficult once I got some hot water going and got hold of a good pair of needle nose pliers.

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj583/PJB1138/Kaustic%20Vader/KausticVader01.jpg

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj583/PJB1138/Kaustic%20Vader/KausticVader02.jpg

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj583/PJB1138/Kaustic%20Vader/KausticVader03.jpg

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj583/PJB1138/Kaustic%20Vader/KausticVader04.jpg

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj583/PJB1138/Kaustic%20Vader/KausticVader05.jpg

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj583/PJB1138/Kaustic%20Vader/KausticVader06.jpg

As you may notice, I solved the issue of the shorter arms by connecting the gloves to the ball joint that came with the Kaustic body instead of connecting the wrist to the original Sideshow pegs inside the gloves. Taking a Dremel to that forearm seemed too drastic a measure since it already took all my courage just to cut the sleeves of the body suit a 1/4" shorter. While it makes the forearm look slightly elongated next to the undersized Kaustic upper arm, the shoulder bells do a good job of disguising the matter. Most importantly, it gives the arms enough length to make two-handed lightsaber poses easy as well as make it less obvious how long those gloves are!

Anyway, as always, any feedback (positive or otherwise) is appreciated. :wink1:

Wor-Gar
12-03-2012, 06:01 PM
Looks good to me. :yess: I love how large he looks, especially next to other figures -- but large without looking like a towering giant. Just a massive guy, like he was in ANH, before they made him more regal and Imperial.

Relieved that you like it, after all the flack from others. I'll have to get in there and use the Kaustic pegs on the gloves. I didn't even both with the boot pegs because the legs fit so tight into the boots as it is.

Now we just need a new cape and tunic....

jedijim3002
12-03-2012, 06:48 PM
Looks awesome pj. It really makes him more realistic and lifelike. The helmet was huge on Prowse. If you look at ANH it clearly is enormous compares to his shoulders and other characters heads. A normal 6'4" guy with a 2 inch boot and a huge helmet would measure 6'7" it seems. Way to go everyone for coming up with this swap. Especially since I have a KP body handy :).

jedijim3002
12-03-2012, 06:52 PM
Love this shot. Shows it all perfectly.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/04/y7uga5yr.jpg
It almost seems like all the complaints about the dome may have been it proportion to to size of the body. To me the SS dome seemed small so I did the hasbro swap. Seeing your pics pj make me think the SS wasn't small at all. That it was just the position and size relative to the entire figure.

wax murderer
12-03-2012, 07:16 PM
The SST dome doesn't flair enough in the bell, and the top half isn't full enough. Put a Hasbro dome on him and he'll be as close to perfect as can be achieved...PS

King Darkness
12-04-2012, 12:33 AM
Impressive PJB, most impressive :clap.....:vader

That looks as close to perfect as I think we can get! Thanks for the info about using the kaustic ball joints, its a small but definite improvement. I'll be do that additional mod :yess:

Last shot is fantastic :hi5:

shockwave
12-04-2012, 10:51 AM
Excellent work PJB-1138. :clap

Oh well back to the drawing board for my Vader....:monkey1

King Darkness
12-04-2012, 11:47 AM
Wrist mod done. Brilliant! Thanks a ton PJB! :bow

That made a huge difference, I'm extremely happy with additional arm length :yess:

King Darkness
12-04-2012, 02:17 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180692.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180694.jpg?t=1354655821

barryo
12-04-2012, 02:26 PM
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180692.jpg



Dun dun ta dun Dun dun ta dun Dun dun ta dun Dun dun ta dun Dunnnnnnnn dun dun dunnnnnnnnn da-dun-dunna-dun dun-dun, da-dun-dunna-dun dun-dun ........:banana


great pics k...............:yess:

PJB-1138
12-04-2012, 04:12 PM
Looks good to me. :yess: I love how large he looks, especially next to other figures -- but large without looking like a towering giant. Just a massive guy, like he was in ANH, before they made him more regal and Imperial.

Relieved that you like it, after all the flack from others. I'll have to get in there and use the Kaustic pegs on the gloves. I didn't even both with the boot pegs because the legs fit so tight into the boots as it is.


Thanks for the nice words, guys, but the resulting figure was obviously a group effort, so kudos all around. As massive as he may look (which was a matter of concern for me when you look at the Kaustic body on its own), the figure actually takes on more of a normal-sized "man-in-suit" appearance, especially without the cape, as can be seen here:

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj583/PJB1138/Kaustic%20Vader/KausticVader07.jpg

I also agree with what was said about the helmet. While it doesn't seem accurately shaped for an ANH look, the problem seemed mostly due to how it was positioned on the head. I think of this figure as kind of a ANH/ESB hybrid anyway, so this little detail doesn't really bother me.

A word of warning, however, to those who haven't done this mod but are thinking about it, the undersized upper arm and limited articulation at the shoulder are its greatest drawbacks. Posing his arms with his hands on his belt buckle was a challenge, but putting him in a Superman stance makes the figure look unnatural no matter how hard I tried:

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj583/PJB1138/Kaustic%20Vader/KausticVader08.jpg

Finally, Wor-Gar, I highly recommend pulling those pegs out of the boots and plugging in those little Kaustic barbell ankle joints instead. Not only do they fit like a glove (pun intended), but it secures the legs to the boots quite nicely and makes all the various parts seem like they belong together.

jedijim3002
12-04-2012, 04:35 PM
Good info PJ. Thanks for taking the time to try all options on this mod.

Wor-Gar
12-04-2012, 06:01 PM
Finally, Wor-Gar, I highly recommend pulling those pegs out of the boots and plugging in those little Kaustic barbell ankle joints instead. Not only do they fit like a glove (pun intended), but it secures the legs to the boots quite nicely and makes all the various parts seem like they belong together.

Definitely going to do that! Thanks!




http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180692.jpg


DAMN! How much does that rock! :clap

I still don't know how you get your SS cape like that, but I imagine a porcupine of paper clips in the back. :lol

omegaglory1
12-18-2012, 04:37 AM
I've been itching to do something about my Darth Vader figure. After reading this thread, I took the plunge and ordered my KP-02 body. I can finally put him standing next to Fett.

shockwave
12-18-2012, 08:27 AM
I was able to pull the pegs out of the gloves. The boots might be a problem though.....:slap

youbastards
12-18-2012, 09:24 AM
Yeah, the boots are tough to get the peg out.

I had to boil the boots until the shin guards were easy to peel off, that made the boots less rigid, then I continued to boil for 5-10 seconds and popped the pegs out with needle nose pliers.

Once I got the SS pegs out, the KP ankle pegs fit into place pretty easily, then just reglued the shin guards in place and I was good to go.

King Darkness
12-18-2012, 03:16 PM
Before with Sideshow cape & tunic


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180692.jpg


After with iforigno caper & tunic

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180878.jpghttp://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180873.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180876.jpg

Wor-Gar
12-18-2012, 04:04 PM
Found this picture helpful for many reasons...

http://www.hooverae.com/upload/files/130408/8401491.jpeg

King Darkness
12-18-2012, 04:06 PM
de ja vu :panic:


:lol

VintijDroidGutzz
12-19-2012, 06:34 AM
KD - your replacement cape & inner robes really complete the look beautifully - nice work! :clap

The stock SSC robes & cape, look like thick black stiff blankets with no drape-age at all.. so wrong. :slap :monkey4 :monkey4 :monkey4

Wor-Gar
12-19-2012, 09:10 AM
King took Vader's blankie!

omegaglory1
12-19-2012, 12:27 PM
Got a question for the folks here. I've received my KP body but I'm not sure how to go about getting the leg pegs to fit onto it. Should I be drilling holes?

Tabula Rasa
12-19-2012, 12:32 PM
Got a question for the folks here. I've received my KP body but I'm not sure how to go about getting the leg pegs to fit onto it. Should I be drilling holes?


No, you need to heat up ankle portion of the boot with a hair dryer. When it's soft, reach in with a pair of needle nose pliers to pull out the boot's peg. You then use the pegs that came with the KP body to plug into the boots.

omegaglory1
12-19-2012, 01:27 PM
No, you need to heat up ankle portion of the boot with a hair dryer. When it's soft, reach in with a pair of needle nose pliers to pull out the boot's peg. You then use the pegs that came with the KP body to plug into the boots.

Thanks, I'll try that.

eczamurai
12-19-2012, 01:44 PM
Before with Sideshow cape & tunic


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180692.jpg


After with iforigno caper & tunic

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180878.jpghttp://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180873.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180876.jpg

Emperors hood needs futzing next to that gorgeous vader! Congratz on that one. Hope to get in on one of those robes! :clap

Wor-Gar
12-19-2012, 02:40 PM
Might as well add my lforigno caped Vader to the fray here...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/NewVaderCapeRobeset_zps59e1b732.jpg


Very happy with Vader now.

Chakaman
12-19-2012, 06:24 PM
Might as well add my lforigno caped Vader to the fray here...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/NewVaderCapeRobeset_zps59e1b732.jpg


Very happy with Vader now.

:clap :clap :clap

Awesome job WG, well done!! He looks fantastic!!

Wor-Gar
12-19-2012, 06:30 PM
:clap :clap :clap

Awesome job WG, well done!! He looks fantastic!!

Thank you, sir!

uno mas...


http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/VaderLuke1_zps55fc7ae2.jpg

King Darkness
12-19-2012, 06:48 PM
As stated before, you did a fine job with the futz, WG :clap :clap :clap

pixletwin
12-19-2012, 07:42 PM
Congrats Greg. I think you have the best custom vader. Bravo

Wor-Gar
12-19-2012, 07:53 PM
As stated before, you did a fine job with the futz, WG :clap :clap :clap

Thank you again. :)


Congrats Greg. I think you have the best custom vader. Bravo

Wow -- the best. That's serious. I always feel like that starts a competition but I very much appreciate the sentiment, thank you! Some new kid will come along soon enough and unthrone me anyway.

King Darkness
12-19-2012, 08:42 PM
Congrats Greg. I think you have the best custom vader. Bravo


Weren't you saying the KP body mod wasn't good?...:lol

pixletwin
12-19-2012, 08:48 PM
Well wg convinced me it can look good with tlc. :D

omegaglory1
12-20-2012, 02:33 PM
No, you need to heat up ankle portion of the boot with a hair dryer. When it's soft, reach in with a pair of needle nose pliers to pull out the boot's peg. You then use the pegs that came with the KP body to plug into the boots.

Hey, I'm still scratching my head over how to accomplish this. I looked at the KP body's pegs and don't see how they can fit into the boots, it's a ball peg that looks too big to my eyes.

Tabula Rasa
12-20-2012, 03:05 PM
Don't know what else to tell ya. Take the pegs out of the boots, and the KP's pegs fit in with just a touch of force. It is a snug fit, but it does go on. I've put on, and taken off mine repeatedly.

RichAlot
12-25-2012, 09:50 PM
Hey guys I know I read this somewhere but can't find it going back in the threads. What's the measurement on Vader with the KP body from shoulder to feet for Inforigno's cape? Still waiting on my KP body to arrive. Thanks!

Wor-Gar
12-25-2012, 11:26 PM
Mine was 11 inches even.

RichAlot
12-26-2012, 07:24 AM
Mine was 11 inches even.

Thank you! Great work, BTW. Your Vader looks amazing!

Wor-Gar
12-26-2012, 10:48 AM
Thank you! Great work, BTW. Your Vader looks amazing!

Thank you very much. And thank to everyone for all the kind comments. Makes me feel good about competely bashing up my Sideshow Vader.

swsqueakquels
12-26-2012, 05:26 PM
Thank you very much. And thank to everyone for all the kind comments. Makes me feel good about competely bashing up my Sideshow Vader.

Did you already mention what your complete list of mods was?

Wor-Gar
12-26-2012, 05:53 PM
Did you already mention what your complete list of mods was?

I did. With tutorials. And a free 1-800 hotline assist number. Where have you been?

swsqueakquels
12-27-2012, 03:06 AM
I did. With tutorials. And a free 1-800 hotline assist number. Where have you been?

Oh, I can't get the noob pass for once - and during xmas? And I've been deep in custom Boba land before that... while doing my extremely complex C-3PO custom at the same time. I'm very, very busy... had enough b.s. yet?:lol

And... what is that 1-800 number? (insert "how's my driving" bumper sticker pic here.)

Wor-Gar
12-27-2012, 11:10 AM
^^^I want to see 3PO.

Anyway, yes, I did the helmet mod, the body swap to the KP-02 with KP pegs replacing the SS pegs, and the full cape+tunic lforigno replacement. I did not cut or alter any parts (like shortening the gloves).

swsqueakquels
12-28-2012, 09:34 PM
^^^I want to see 3PO.

Anyway, yes, I did the helmet mod, the body swap to the KP-02 with KP pegs replacing the SS pegs, and the full cape+tunic lforigno replacement. I did not cut or alter any parts (like shortening the gloves).

Looks awesome. Like how the inner cape/tunic crinkles at the belt.

That KP body is basically a HT heavy muscle body clone so works great. Wish those KP's were cheaper though.

3PO is just Hasbro fig dremeled within an inch of its life, lots of "plastic surgery" on head and arms. Ball jointed head, shoulders and wrists. Unbelievably complex (for me.) The eyes have been heavily modded and new lights added. Not going to be close to perfect due to Hasbro source, but wanted to see what I could do before Tama 3PO. Will post pics soon.

King Darkness
12-29-2012, 12:08 AM
Your 3P0, give it to me.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180945.jpg

swsqueakquels
12-29-2012, 12:48 AM
Your 3P0, give it to me.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180945.jpg

You already built one yourself. Oh, that's right... you forgot.:lol

Jeez these Vaders in here are looking stunning. The SSC product had so many issues, but people have just nailed it with these mods. These look like pics of the full size costume. SSC must be sweating bullets with their 2.0 just trying to match up to these customs.

chRd
12-29-2012, 12:57 AM
Your 3P0, give it to me.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/P1180945.jpg

Nice work king! Cant we get some SSC peeps here

Jay1138
12-29-2012, 07:54 AM
LOVE seeing modified Sideshow Vaders. Mine is spot on and is one of my favorites. Some people still complain about him being too tall, but I think he's just right.

eastern
12-30-2012, 07:50 PM
Just to share my take for the coming New Year...

55799


Join me to the dark side...a make it a new year resolution!

Jango56031
01-02-2013, 02:51 PM
Might as well add my lforigno caped Vader to the fray here...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/NewVaderCapeRobeset_zps59e1b732.jpg


Very happy with Vader now.

Just wanted some clarification. Is the cape and tunic the only thing changed on Vader, or did you guys do a helmet mod too?

Tee-Kay
01-02-2013, 02:56 PM
FRom these pics, i'd say there's indeed a helmet mod.

pixletwin
01-02-2013, 03:37 PM
Just wanted some clarification. Is the cape and tunic the only thing changed on Vader, or did you guys do a helmet mod too?

Helmet mod and the body was swapped with a Kaustic Plastic body.

swsqueakquels
01-02-2013, 03:38 PM
Just wanted some clarification. Is the cape and tunic the only thing changed on Vader, or did you guys do a helmet mod too?

Yeah, found this one page back...




Anyway, yes, I did the helmet mod, the body swap to the KP-02 with KP pegs replacing the SS pegs, and the full cape+tunic lforigno replacement. I did not cut or alter any parts (like shortening the gloves).

pixletwin
01-02-2013, 03:39 PM
No shortage of answers here. :lol

omegaglory1
01-07-2013, 11:56 AM
Finally got round to swapping in the KP body. Here he is. Not only does he look better, Vader also feels heftier with the new body. One of the things that bugged me was how light it felt in comparison to the HTs in my collection, the added weight makes him feel more substantial and less like a cheap toy.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rsWViz4ar8o/UOsW7csEWjI/AAAAAAAAAIs/RvBzH-TDrDc/s576/SAM_0329.JPG

The cape is from Iforigno, which further enhances the figure. A lot of work, but worth it! :yess:

King Darkness
01-07-2013, 11:58 AM
Nice shot, omega, Vader looks a bagillion times better :clap

pixletwin
01-07-2013, 11:58 AM
Your robes are displayed wrong. Looks good otherwise.

King Darkness
01-07-2013, 12:01 PM
Maybe he's going for ESB Vader :lol

I didn't even notice.

Wor-Gar
01-07-2013, 12:38 PM
Finally got round to swapping in the KP body. Here he is. Not only does he look better, Vader also feels heftier with the new body. One of the things that bugged me was how light it felt in comparison to the HTs in my collection, the added weight makes him feel more substantial and less like a cheap toy.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rsWViz4ar8o/UOsW7csEWjI/AAAAAAAAAIs/RvBzH-TDrDc/s576/SAM_0329.JPG

The cape is from Iforigno, which further enhances the figure. A lot of work, but worth it! :yess:

Looks nice:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rsWViz4ar8o/UOsW7csEWjI/AAAAAAAAAIs/RvBzH-TDrDc/s576/SAM_0329.JPG

omegaglory1
01-07-2013, 03:49 PM
Looks nice:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rsWViz4ar8o/UOsW7csEWjI/AAAAAAAAAIs/RvBzH-TDrDc/s576/SAM_0329.JPG

The proportions look off in the photo e.g. the torso looks too big and the legs too short; but in real life it's a lot better. I suspect the angle I took the photo didn't help. Head isn't as bad as in the photo, it is a tad big looking but I suspect it's because the KP neck makes it stand up higher (by just a little) than it should.

Wor-Gar
01-07-2013, 04:35 PM
I think it looks terrific.

shadowfla
01-07-2013, 05:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK5CTd0OVLw

Darth_IMPoor
01-07-2013, 06:57 PM
Here's a little "death of Obi-Wan" pic.

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo15/jdman12/IMG_2068.jpg

pixletwin
01-07-2013, 07:47 PM
Awesome. :rock

RichAlot
01-07-2013, 08:04 PM
How comparable is the KP02 body to HT's Odin body? I bought the wrong KP body and had an extra Odin so that may be my only option at this point.

King Darkness
01-08-2013, 12:30 AM
I think it looks terrific.

:exactly: :exactly: :exactly:

galactiboy
01-08-2013, 07:29 AM
How comparable is the KP02 body to HT's Odin body? I bought the wrong KP body and had an extra Odin so that may be my only option at this point.

I'm pretty sure the Odin body is much smaller in the arms and torso and shorter than the KP. The KP is almost the exact same size and proportions as the T-800 bodies.

King Darkness
01-08-2013, 07:29 AM
I'm pretty sure the Odin body is much smaller in the arms and torso and shorter than the KP. The KP is almost the exact same size and proportions as the T-800 bodies.

galactiboy
01-08-2013, 07:30 AM
Listen to King, he has the smartz :lecture

King Darkness
01-08-2013, 07:33 AM
Listen to galactiboy, he has the smartz :lecture

EVILFACE
01-08-2013, 07:37 AM
Don't listen to these infidel defilers. Wait for the Hot Toys Darth Vader.

King Darkness
01-08-2013, 07:38 AM
http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/customavatars/avatar289_3.gif

EVILFACE
01-08-2013, 07:40 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lLsdaCVk3Kk/S9Ek6D-zLHI/AAAAAAABlF0/IMHmcMvFaUk/s1600/legend_darkness.jpg

pixletwin
01-08-2013, 08:25 AM
Don't listen to me. I still have an unmodded Vader helm.

:FREAK:

RichAlot
01-08-2013, 03:31 PM
Don't listen to me. I still have an unmodded Vader helm.

:FREAK:

not only do i have an unmodded vader, i have the wrong kp body to go with him :slap

MANDO
01-08-2013, 06:15 PM
Figured since this thread was bumped... I finally got Vader. The circle is now complete.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8227/8356407050_309d3a3ffe_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizardofx/8356407050/)

Wor-Gar
01-08-2013, 06:20 PM
Nice! :clap

pixletwin
01-08-2013, 07:15 PM
Figured since this thread was bumped... I finally got Vader. The circle is now complete.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8227/8356407050_309d3a3ffe_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wizardofx/8356407050/)

Feels good. Doesn't it? :rock