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Darklord Dave
04-26-2009, 08:54 PM
http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_cap.jpg
I got the Utapau 212 Clone Trooper a little early. These are the troopers that had to Order 66 Obi-wan Kenobi and they didn't do a very good job. For this reason at least, they will always be one of the more significant clone battalion. One can argue about whether the multi-colored clones were designed that way to just sell more toys, but there's no denying that they're more visually interesting than a standard all white trooper.

Now Sideshow brings us their first Clone Trooper in 1/6 form, close on the heels of the OT Stormtrooper. He's on the armor body that we first saw with Clone Wars Obi-wan and has the vinyl like pinstripe suit under his armor. Where Obi-wan had a dark brown suit, the clone has the proper black suit.

There has been much debate about this figure, and there's room for a lot of controversy with a costume that was never actually made and only exists as a CG output. Even the official Lucasfilm image of this trooper doesn't really look exactly like the trooper as they appeared in the film. But looking at the screen caps of the short scenes with the 212 - I'd say that SSC did a bang up job in bringing this trooper to life.

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_1.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_2.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_3.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_4.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_5.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_6.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_7.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_8.jpg

The Josh
04-26-2009, 08:59 PM
Looks good Dave. Just got the regular coming from BBTS and am excited to get it. :rock

The Mike
04-26-2009, 09:03 PM
The figure is great but that base is horrid.

Darklord Dave
04-26-2009, 09:04 PM
http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_9.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_01.jpg

The weathering is very well done, he really looks like he's been fighting a long campaign. The paint stripes aren't too bright and seem to be placed accurately compared to movie shots (but not to the official 212 LFL image).

I can't see anything wrong with the helmet either - but there aren't any close ups of the 212 helmet in the film, but I can't see any discrepancies.

He comes with 2 guns (seen in the pics) and a seperate set of fisted hands. Both of the hands that come on the body have trigger fingers, so he could use 2 guns. I got the exclusive which only comes with the white and orange stand. I think when we get a bunch of different troopers this will make for a colorful display, but I do wish I had the option of using the standard SW black stand.

I know some people are concerned about the looseness of the body. It's about the same as clone Obi, the tight vinyl suit inhibits movement a bit.

I'm going to get another one of these, like Stormtroopers, they look best when you have multiples. I'm very happy with how he turned out. Dare I say it? SEND IN THE CLONES (the other clones I mean, I especially want the guys in grape with the skirts...just a divine ensemble...:monkey3)

IrishJedi
04-26-2009, 09:05 PM
Good photos, Dave! Looks real nice in those pics and the helmet is indeed much improved from the prototype, thank God.

That exclusive stand is still the fugliest thing I've ever seen, though.

IrishJedi
04-26-2009, 09:05 PM
The figure is great but that base is horrid.

:lecture :lecture :lecture

The Mike
04-26-2009, 09:05 PM
Definitely going for the regular. I canceled this via SSC but I'll definitely get the regular now I just can't get over the white base.

Matt S
04-26-2009, 09:13 PM
Thank you for the pics; this figure looks great! I have the regular version coming....very happy with this one. Now, I hope the 501st version is next. They will look real sharp next to Sith Anakin!

IrishJedi
04-26-2009, 09:15 PM
Definitely going for the regular. I canceled this via SSC but I'll definitely get the regular now I just can't get over the white base.

It's not just the whit, but the overall design of the base. It's just very gaudy, imho. Not at all as classy as Sideshow's bases usually are.

The Josh
04-26-2009, 09:26 PM
So it holds two guns? Nice! Already got some ideas then for posing. :rock

EVILFACE
04-26-2009, 09:28 PM
Good looking figure with nice paint work. The weathering makes it look like he is wearing some tennis shoes though!

Entropy
04-26-2009, 09:33 PM
Looks good. Thanks for the pics, Dave.

The Mike
04-26-2009, 09:34 PM
It's not just the whit, but the overall design of the base. It's just very gaudy, imho. Not at all as classy as Sideshow's bases usually are.

Yeah I'm not liking the design overlay and the additional scripting. Would have preferred a laundry list of other exclusives than this. The figure does look amazing though.

Dally
04-26-2009, 10:08 PM
Good looking figure with nice paint work. The weathering makes it look like he is wearing some tennis shoes though!

:lol You're right, it does! Great looking figure, don't know if I'm going to get it though. I think I'm only going to go for the clone commanders (Gree, Bly, and Cody).

Deak Starkiller
04-26-2009, 10:09 PM
Thanks Dave, can you provide any close ups of the helmet/weathering itself? And can SSC send you the Ark so I can decide whether I want to keep that on order or not? :lol

pixletwin
04-26-2009, 10:20 PM
Wow he really turned out nice. :rock

Glennfett
04-26-2009, 11:23 PM
WOW...nice figure!!!Love the weathering idea for him..thanks Dave for the pics.

Mike S
04-26-2009, 11:30 PM
Looks very impressive.

Mooncat
04-27-2009, 01:52 AM
Nice looking figure . . . .



if it isnt stood next to a Medi :D

Valfar
04-27-2009, 06:18 AM
Ok, i thought the Stormtrooper they did was off for lots of reasons(still a good figure) but, this clone i can honestly say blows the medicom out of the water for detail for sure and overall look(even if its a bit off) the medicom EP3 helmets look crappy compared to this one, has to be the details that are selling me on this.

I just hope it can stand on its own.

LOPIE
04-27-2009, 07:24 AM
Looks great. I think SS hit a home run on this one.

OSCORP
04-27-2009, 08:10 AM
I know some people are concerned about the looseness of the body. It's about the same as clone Obi



Unacceptable!:banghead Otherwise looks great!

FQRizzo
04-27-2009, 08:12 AM
Looks great!! :banana:banana:chew

galactiboy
04-27-2009, 09:14 AM
That looks really good... the weathering and detail work is especially nice. Also, the helmet looks like it really was improved from the proto.

I have the exclusive on order... still wondering if I want the fugly stand or not. I just find it hard to break the exclusive bug :lol

ProgMatinee
04-27-2009, 09:26 AM
I like the stand, though don't think its much of a reason to spend extra to get the EX.

Lordscum
04-27-2009, 09:45 AM
Thanks for the pics and review Dave! I have the EX on order! They should be arriving in the SSC warehouse very soon and hopefully start shipping next week.

cerealkeller
04-27-2009, 10:08 AM
Canceled the exclusive and will get the regular from Cornerstore or Vikingplayground. Looks good so far, hoping the body will hold up for posing.

Puay
04-27-2009, 12:39 PM
Thanks for sharing the photos Dave, so glad that I have 2 on order.:)

Blackthornone
04-27-2009, 01:06 PM
http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_9.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_01.jpg


I can't see anything wrong with the helmet either - but there aren't any close ups of the 212 helmet in the film, but I can't see any discrepancies.



The nose bridge where it meets the mouth area is too narrow, because it is 1/3 of how thick it SHOULD be.(the black area I mean.)

JGouse0498
04-27-2009, 03:21 PM
I can still see the helmet inaccuracies, but they do not appear to be as intrusive as they could have been (i.e. - the prototype).

What does concern me is Dave's comment that the looseness is the same as Clone Kenobi. The Kenobi I personally saw was way too floppy although not as bad as Indy.

Now, hopefully Dave can clarify if he means that the Utapau Trooper is:

A) as loose as the "worst case scenario" Kenobi

or

B) as loose as his own Kenobi figure, which hopefully was one of the tighter ones


At this point, it would be expected that the looseness issues are all but worked out here.

So...here's to hoping... :o

jedibear
04-27-2009, 05:42 PM
http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_1.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_4.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_7.jpg



Thanks for the great gallery and good review, Dave. The Trooper looks fantastic. Really looking forward to this one...great way to start the Sideshow summer...

Darklord Dave
04-27-2009, 08:29 PM
Nice looking figure . . . .



if it isnt stood next to a Medi :D

Well...judge for yourself.

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_med.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_med2.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_med3.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_med4.jpg

The weathering is far superior on the SSC. I think the bucketheads will agree that the helmet is also a better shape on the SSC (that is if all the battalions have exactly the same helmet). The Medicom armor is too white and makes it appear more toy-like and it's a softer look, more sharp edges on the SSC. The Medi has actually sewn ridges in the bodysuit, but they're out of scale. The printed ones on the SSC make that body suit look more accurate.

The Medicom body is tighter though.

Darklord Dave
04-27-2009, 08:34 PM
Thanks Dave, can you provide any close ups of the helmet/weathering itself? l

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_cu.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_cu2.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_cu3.jpg

http://sideshowcollectors.com/images/212_cu4.jpg

EVILFACE
04-27-2009, 09:23 PM
Far better looking than the Medicom version.

devilof76
04-27-2009, 09:24 PM
That's awesome. The commanders are going to be incredible.

joda76
04-27-2009, 09:40 PM
Nice pics. Thanks
What is the scale difference between the Medi and SSC? Is the height the same? The Medi just appears slimmer to me.

Buttmunch
04-27-2009, 09:55 PM
I'm curious to see if the weathering is 100% the same on all of these or if they are unique or at least have some variantion to them. That as the one thing I didn't like about Hasbro's 3 3/4" clone weathering. They all had the exact same markings on them.

drod26
04-27-2009, 11:53 PM
That's awesome. The commanders are going to be incredible.
I can not wait to see the commanders. Hope we get Cody first to put him next to this guy.

Puay
04-28-2009, 01:47 AM
I can not wait to see the commanders. Hope we get Cody first to put him next to this guy.

Not forgetting the Utapau Airborne Troopers.:)

King Darkness
04-28-2009, 01:55 AM
Its about time you started contributing to the board Dave.

Nice pix.

VOTR_Ed
04-28-2009, 05:00 AM
This thread fills me with regret at not getting my favorite clone trooper :(

Lordscum
04-28-2009, 05:12 AM
Also the SSC has more acessories that better made , functional and have awsome weathering . Medicom has never included the Blaster Rifle with any of thier Clones made so far and I doubt if they even attempted to make one.

galactiboy
04-28-2009, 07:33 AM
Wow, it really is a huge improvement (visually) over the Medicom. I was fairly "meh" about getting this one, but your pics actually have me excited about adding this clone to my collection :rock

Matt S
04-28-2009, 08:30 AM
This thread fills me with regret at not getting my favorite clone trooper :(

If you can afford it, he's available at many online retailers!

Wor-Gar
04-28-2009, 08:46 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/order69.jpg

FQRizzo
04-28-2009, 09:02 AM
:lol:lol:lol

Darth_Finger
04-28-2009, 10:32 AM
Wow, they did a killer job with this one.

pixletwin
04-28-2009, 10:32 AM
Hi Darth Finger! :wave

FQRizzo
04-28-2009, 10:37 AM
Wow, they did a killer job with this one.

Hey Darth Finger! How's it going?

Kuzeh
04-28-2009, 10:38 AM
Clone trooper is looking great!

FLOSI
04-28-2009, 10:54 AM
Awesome stuff, Dave.

joda76
04-28-2009, 11:37 AM
So you think they will release a 501st anytime soon?

galactiboy
04-28-2009, 11:41 AM
So you think they will release a 501st anytime soon?

I would say its fairly likely... that or a Shocktrooper.

So far the Stormtrooper has been used for 3 figures (probably 5 if the suspicions about Luke and Han are correct) so its about time for another PT Clone.

SilentSurfer
04-28-2009, 11:48 AM
Damn! How did you get your clone so early. I got the 20 day notice last week, but I'm still waiting til May and I even got in early on the Exclusive.

BTW what does everybody have against the base? I love the base. I wish it were standard issue on all Troopers. What is so crappy about a matching base over the regular black 'Star Wars' one? I'm tired of that one. I even wish each base was related to the movie the character is representing if nothing else, ie, 'Empire Strikes Back', 'Revenge of the Sith', the way that the Freddy and Jason bases indicated the movie logo for each one.

Keep it up Sideshow. I love it.

fantasymaker
04-28-2009, 03:07 PM
Nice both dave , thanks for the pictures :chew

IrishJedi
04-28-2009, 06:17 PM
So you think they will release a 501st anytime soon?

I personally hope not. I've been sick of those for 4 years now. Plus, Medicom already made 'em. Time for something new.

Gimme a Commander Gree!!! :rock :rock :rock

jedibear
04-28-2009, 06:56 PM
I'm with Irish here...one of the (many) things I'm liking about Sideshow producing the 212th clone is that it hadn't been done by another company yet...

As far as commanders go, first Cody and yes, then Gree.

Although it's gonna be interesting to see how the paint apps are going to come together on that one. From Dave's shots, it looks like they did a great job on this one.

Gentle Giant did a good job on Gree....
C'mon Sideshow...lets see a whole figure!

IrishJedi
04-28-2009, 07:12 PM
If Hasbro can mass-produce 3.75" figures with decent Gree paint schemes I don't wanna a hear a single damn excuse from Sideshow or any apologists about it being too hard for them to accomplish on a 1/6 figure. :lecture Just sayin'.

MaulFan
04-28-2009, 07:30 PM
Well, didn't a recent Q&A pretty much throw out that Cody's in the pipeline?

Sachiel
04-28-2009, 07:41 PM
If Hasbro can mass-produce 3.75" figures with decent Gree paint schemes I don't wanna a hear a single damn excuse from Sideshow or any apologists about it being too hard for them to accomplish on a 1/6 figure. :lecture Just sayin'.

The paint job looks great on the Utapau Clone.

I don't they'll have trouble.

The Mike
04-28-2009, 07:46 PM
Well after Obi-Wan and Palpatine had fantastic A+ Paint Applications I said all of them should be perfect from now on, if they could do it there then there isn't a reason they couldn't do it all the time.....turned out to be the exception to the rule and not the rule.....so I'd say the worry is warranted.

Lee in MI
04-28-2009, 09:34 PM
I personally hope not. I've been sick of those for 4 years now. Plus, Medicom already made 'em. Time for something new.

Gimme a Commander Gree!!! :rock :rock :rock


If Hasbro can mass-produce 3.75" figures with decent Gree paint schemes I don't wanna a hear a single damn excuse from Sideshow or any apologists about it being too hard for them to accomplish on a 1/6 figure. :lecture Just sayin'.

Quoted for truth!
:lecture:lecture:lecture:lecture

Blackhole
04-29-2009, 08:44 AM
Dave got his figure this early? I call shennanigans...

Maybe he used his magic powers...

It looks like a good fig, but that Visor still looks off...

jkno
04-29-2009, 09:01 AM
I'm not collecting PT anymore but these clone troopers ROCK!!! :rock

Valfar
04-29-2009, 09:04 AM
I actually think this looks better then the canon look in the film.

Darth_Finger
04-29-2009, 09:36 AM
Trying not to collect PT stuff right now but this might be a hard one to pass up.

firefly2121
04-29-2009, 09:39 AM
Thanks Clone Trooper is most impressive, I cant wait to get mine...Well that exclusive stand sucks though...

I hope that these are the following Clones:
1. Commander Cody
2. Commander Gree
3. Commander Bly
4. Commander Neyo
5. Commander Bacara
6. Galactic Marines

Lordscum
04-29-2009, 09:44 AM
Thanks Clone Trooper is most impressive, I cant wait to get mine...Well that exclusive stand sucks though...

I hope that these are the following Clones:
1. Commander Cody
2. Commander Gree
3. Commander Bly
4. Commander Neyo
5. Commander Bacara
6. Galactic Marines



Those are at the top of my Clone list as well. I think its a decent bet that
we'll one of those debut at SDCC.

Darth_Finger
04-29-2009, 09:50 AM
Those are at the top of my Clone list as well. I think its a decent bet that
we'll one of those debut at SDCC.

Did you get yours yet?

abake
04-29-2009, 10:15 AM
Looks fantastic!
Looking forward to getting one.

Puay
04-29-2009, 10:16 AM
Thanks Clone Trooper is most impressive, I cant wait to get mine...Well that exclusive stand sucks though...

I hope that these are the following Clones:
1. Commander Cody
2. Commander Gree
3. Commander Bly
4. Commander Neyo
5. Commander Bacara
6. Galactic Marines

I hope so too. Sideshow did be ultilising the Clone Trooper mould to its fullest.:)

Valfar
04-29-2009, 10:20 AM
And don't forget, getting a Snowtrooper(hopefully next) will be a easy way to re-use pieces of that for the Galactic Marine.

Darth_Finger
04-29-2009, 10:22 AM
Any pics of this guy next to the GG bust and Koto? Interesting to see how all the helmets line up :)

Puay
04-29-2009, 10:24 AM
And don't forget, getting a Snowtrooper(hopefully next) will be a easy way to re-use pieces of that for the Galactic Marine.

The Snowtrooper's armour plating can be use on General Veer as well.:)

Jmek
04-29-2009, 11:08 AM
Holy Moly! That's amazing! Damn it this or Darth Vader, hrrrm?:confused:

Lordscum
04-29-2009, 11:39 AM
Did you get yours yet?


I wish DF ! It still a few days out from arriving in the SS Warehouse . I sucpect they'll start charging accounts and shipping them some time next week.
Defiantly asking for 2nd day shipping on this one! I can't wait to get this in my hands , plus its my big gift from my wife for my 38th B-day! Yes I'm old !

Darklord Dave
04-29-2009, 02:54 PM
I got it really early, so I wouldn't expect it to be shipping for a week or so.

devilof76
04-29-2009, 03:13 PM
I think its a decent bet that we'll one of those debut at SDCC.

If they wanted to steal the show completely, they would reveal several. Cody, Bly, Bacara and Gree would be an epic Comic-Con announcement.

Anzik
04-29-2009, 04:38 PM
If they wanted to steal the show completely, they would reveal several. Cody, Bly, Bacara and Gree would be an epic Comic-Con announcement.

A $400 SDCC announcement.

devilof76
04-29-2009, 05:00 PM
Like Jabba ($120), throne ($200), Salacious Crumb creature pack ($33), Boushh ($60), and Bib Fortuna ($55). Which came to $468.

DCFett
04-29-2009, 06:40 PM
Like Jabba ($120), throne ($200), Salacious Crumb creature pack ($33), Boushh ($60), and Bib Fortuna ($55). Which came to $468.

:lol:lol:lol:lol
That's the damn truth! Though, at least the econmy was on foot at that point.

Anzik
04-29-2009, 07:24 PM
Like Jabba ($120), throne ($200), Salacious Crumb creature pack ($33), Boushh ($60), and Bib Fortuna ($55). Which came to $468.

There you go again, clouding the issue with facts.

Darth_Finger
04-29-2009, 08:32 PM
Hey Darth Finger! How's it going?


Its going :)

devilof76
04-29-2009, 09:55 PM
There you go again, clouding the issue with facts.

I have illustrations to make it even cloudier.

http://www.starwars-tw.com/story/character/dark/clone/bly-1.jpghttp://www.mocpages.com/user_thumbnails/jamant@iinet.net.au/www.starwars.com_databank_character_commandercody_ img_eu_bg.jpg_SPLASH.jpg
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commanderbacara/img/movie_bg.jpghttp://www.starwars-tw.com/story/character/dark/clone/gree-2.jpg

The Mike
04-29-2009, 10:09 PM
The Commander I want the most will never get done.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/edgejedi88/Jase%20Clone/commanderfaiefullpic.jpg

And a kitbash just isn't the same.....:(

IrishJedi
04-29-2009, 10:10 PM
You never know. Hasbro made a Faie.

Then again, Hasbro makes EVERYTHING (a dozen times). :lol

The Mike
04-29-2009, 10:11 PM
Yeah I have it, and think its awesome but you gotta admit for SSC its gotta be low on the totem pole. Hasbro will probably make three Faies and a Blackhole Faie before the line is done.

IrishJedi
04-29-2009, 10:12 PM
Speaking of which, I'm really glad that the silly "Blackhole" fad has seemingly started to die down (finally).

devilof76
04-29-2009, 10:16 PM
I'd rather see them do Faie than Neyo.

sheng_lung
04-29-2009, 10:21 PM
Speaking of which, I'm really glad that the silly "Blackhole" fad has seemingly started to die down (finally).

I don't mind the Black Stormtrooper armor long as it's ment to be like the Republic Commando Night ops armor and has a logical reason behind it.

The Chaver
04-29-2009, 10:57 PM
The Commander I want the most will never get done.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/edgejedi88/Jase%20Clone/commanderfaiefullpic.jpg

And a kitbash just isn't the same.....:(

When it comes to Sideshow....never say never.

Deak Starkiller
04-29-2009, 11:05 PM
Yeah Mike if that insipid KISS Paul Stanley trooper can be made then anything is possible.

Wookiee Breath
04-29-2009, 11:28 PM
The Commander I want the most will never get done.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/edgejedi88/Jase%20Clone/commanderfaiefullpic.jpg

And a kitbash just isn't the same.....:(


I'm with you there 100%.

I collect any & all books available on SW production art and that design is one of the coolest clones they did. Why he isn't even in the movie is beyond me.

Anzik
04-30-2009, 05:08 AM
Collecting armored troops is a black hole unto itself. As much as I'd love to fall into it, I just can't in good faith.

shocktrooper_au
04-30-2009, 05:12 AM
For me it will be movies figures only, but I won't be able to justify all the variants to the missus, while I like gree & cody I can't see me getting them all

minivader
05-03-2009, 10:35 AM
not sure if this has already been posted, here are some really nice photos of the clone trooper

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=14820&extra=page%3D1

Darth_Finger
05-03-2009, 11:04 AM
Man that figure is really cool looking. Nice job Sideshow.

JGouse0498
05-03-2009, 11:39 AM
It looks fantastic!

And if they've got the wonky joints sufficiently tightened, posing this figure is going to be A LOT of fun!!!

jedibear
05-03-2009, 03:52 PM
not sure if this has already been posted, here are some really nice photos of the clone trooper

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=14820&extra=page%3D1

Thanks for posting that link, minivader...and yes, this trooper is looking really good!

shocktrooper_au
05-03-2009, 03:52 PM
not sure if this has already been posted, here are some really nice photos of the clone trooper

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=14820&extra=page%3D1

:lol


I like how they gave it the Medi thrust!
nice pics, thanks for the link.. this figure is gonna look great

Deak Starkiller
05-03-2009, 07:05 PM
Nice pic...

automaton
05-03-2009, 11:45 PM
damn... those are great photos!

Rafaela
05-04-2009, 12:02 AM
I really like Commander Gree and the Arc Troopers.

abake
05-04-2009, 08:11 AM
Damn nice figure indeed!

galactiboy
05-04-2009, 08:43 AM
Figure looks like its a winner... the weathering is really nice looking.

nash
05-04-2009, 08:52 AM
those are some great pics. i might need to get one of these troopers.......sigh.

The Josh
05-04-2009, 09:18 AM
Those are some nice shots. I hope the wait isn't too long from BBTS.

Puay
05-05-2009, 05:18 AM
not sure if this has already been posted, here are some really nice photos of the clone trooper

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=14820&extra=page%3D1

Thanks for sharing. Great pics. The contributor was talking about some loose joints but seem nothing serious. Thats what I love to hear.:)

Deeznutz6
05-05-2009, 05:30 AM
Regret cancelling mine now :(

Shropt
05-05-2009, 05:35 AM
Regret cancelling mine now :(

Wow, haven't heard that on these boards in a while.

toystales
05-05-2009, 05:35 AM
IMHO, these would most certainly be back on 2nd chance at SS. I ordered 2, one Ex and one Regular. After some thoughts, I decided to keep only one and cancelled the Regular yesterday.

joda76
05-05-2009, 08:18 AM
I think Im ditching my Medi Clone for this.

minivader
05-05-2009, 09:22 AM
more nice pictures here. Seems like weak legs are common occurance on this figure. The poster also mention it as well.

Hey, can the clone trooper strip down like the storm trooper and have his joints tighten? Or is it a ^^^^^ to remove like clone obi and have the screw holes capped?

http://www.toysdaily.com/discuz/thread-94573-1-1.html

Valfar
05-05-2009, 10:05 AM
Now i really wish i bought this instead of the Stormtrooper, this looks to be the best figure i have seen from SSC in awhile.

coolkansaswind
05-05-2009, 05:33 PM
has any one been charged yet

JGouse0498
05-05-2009, 05:54 PM
Nope, not yet. But we're at or around the 20 day mark, so I imagine it'll be any day now.

Glennfett
05-05-2009, 06:27 PM
hmmm NOT yet.....

IrishJedi
05-05-2009, 06:42 PM
We'll probably get the 24 hr notice first.

galactiboy
05-05-2009, 09:56 PM
Man, all of the pictures for this are just awesome! I did cancel my exclusive (base is just not that interesting to me), but this figure is a must have!

Lordscum
05-06-2009, 07:41 AM
I would think we'll have a processing notice by this Friday. The figure looks awsome! Really looking forward to adding this to my collection along with Han and Luke in ST disguise ! Really happy those will be out at the end of July.

minivader
05-06-2009, 08:25 AM
SSC and medi comparo

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=14874&extra=page%3D1

EDIT: photos by erex. Just thought I should mention that.

The Josh
05-06-2009, 08:34 AM
The Medi Clones aren't bad but SS are better looking overall. They have a more human look to them if that makes sense.

galactiboy
05-06-2009, 08:35 AM
The Sideshow figure almost looks like a custom job... the more I see it the more I wants :rock

maskfreak
05-06-2009, 08:35 AM
Glad I ordered this one. New pics look great.

Darth_Finger
05-06-2009, 09:41 AM
Wow those are some great pics. The SS version really looks like a guy in a suit.

abake
05-06-2009, 09:41 AM
They look pretty ^^^^ing awesome together!

Darth_Finger
05-06-2009, 10:02 AM
Those pics just did it for me

thenammagazine
05-06-2009, 10:27 AM
They called the Sideshow trooper fat! :huh :lol

Lordscum
05-06-2009, 10:28 AM
Those pics just did it for me


I figured you'd cave and get it DF ! Now keep the other stuff you have!

Darth_Finger
05-06-2009, 10:31 AM
Yeah I think I will be keeping a few of my trooper helmets.

The Chaver
05-06-2009, 10:36 AM
The Medi Clones aren't bad but SS are better looking overall. They have a more human look to them if that makes sense.

"more realistic" Would have been a better choice of words.

The Josh
05-06-2009, 10:38 AM
"more realistic" Would have been a better choice of words.

Probably but you got my point. :lol

The Chaver
05-06-2009, 10:38 AM
Probably but you got my point. :lol

Yeah I got it. :D

Lordscum
05-06-2009, 10:45 AM
Yeah I think I will be keeping a few of my trooper helmets.

I was talking about your Sideshow stuff silly!!!

Darth_Finger
05-06-2009, 10:54 AM
I was talking about your Sideshow stuff silly!!!

Just going to stick with the armored guys for now :)

Smudger9
05-06-2009, 11:23 AM
Wow, after all the complaining he turned out better than the Medi. Awesome stuff. Can't wait until they do a Cody.

Lee in MI
05-06-2009, 06:01 PM
They called the Sideshow trooper fat! :huh :lol

That's cause the SSC trooper is American:joy

jk

They both look good to me. The SSC trooper holds it own against the medi and with the DC-15 rifle, he takes the lead for me :D

jedibear
05-06-2009, 07:09 PM
Wow..those comparison shots show just how awesome looking that Sideshow Trooper is....not knocking the Medi...it's not bad, but the Sideshow one just looks amazing! Can't wait!

Oh...and bring on Cody!

IrishJedi
05-06-2009, 07:31 PM
Sideshow, you really came through with the fixes to the helmet sculpt. Kudos!!!! :clap :clap :clap

I like the Medi Clones a lot (basically their only SW figures that hold up and I still own)... but Sideshow has apparently won this clone war. :duff

:rock :rock :rock

By the way, to those who called all of us pointing out the inaccuracies in the EP3 proto helmet "whiners" and "cry babies"... you're welcome. ;)

FQRizzo
05-06-2009, 07:35 PM
Anyone wanna buy a Medi-Clone or Medi-Sandtrooper? :lol

IrishJedi
05-06-2009, 07:37 PM
The Medi clones are fine (aside for their Hasbroesque blasters). But their Stormtroopers and Sandtroopers are a fail in comparison.

Valfar
05-06-2009, 09:45 PM
The Medi clones are fine (aside for their Hasbroesque blasters). But their Stormtroopers and Sandtroopers are a fail in comparison.

Fail? in comparision to what? the SSC Stormie?..i hope you are joking.

I don't think you can compare the Clone to the Stormie, SSC got the shin armor so wrong as the triangular cuts on the tops are just rounded off and the teeth on the right leg should be less pronounced and part of the mold itself, the helmet we all know is off but, looks good from certain angles and it suffers from bad paint apps and loose body, the armor on the SS storme from the knees up is better then Medicom though once modded and is more canon to the films, same with the blasters.
SSC got the helmet wrong on their Clone but, i like it way better this way and they got the back piece correct on their clone and Medicom did not get it right.

Puay
05-06-2009, 10:37 PM
SSC and medi comparo

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=14874&extra=page%3D1

EDIT: photos by erex. Just thought I should mention that.

Is it just me? I thought the Medi helmet look elongated.:o

galactiboy
05-07-2009, 06:42 AM
Also, looks like the range of motion is much better on the Sideshow... I imagine the body won't be as tight (just expecting that now) but still capable of more than just standing there.

The Josh
05-07-2009, 06:44 AM
Sideshow, you really came through with the fixes to the helmet sculpt. Kudos!!!! :clap :clap :clap

I like the Medi Clones a lot (basically their only SW figures that hold up and I still own)... but Sideshow has apparently won this clone war. :duff

:rock :rock :rock

By the way, to those who called all of us pointing out the inaccuracies in the EP3 proto helmet "whiners" and "cry babies"... you're welcome. ;)

It was better from the start just tweaking a couple things made it that much better. As far as the inaccuracies they where never that off to begin with so the tweaking was really minimal.


Fail? in comparision to what? the SSC Stormie?..i hope you are joking.

I don't think you can compare the Clone to the Stormie, SSC got the shin armor so wrong as the triangular cuts on the tops are just rounded off and the teeth on the right leg should be less pronounced and part of the mold itself, the helmet we all know is off but, looks good from certain angles and it suffers from bad paint apps and loose body, the armor on the SS storme from the knees up is better then Medicom though once modded and is more canon to the films, same with the blasters.
SSC got the helmet wrong on their Clone but, i like it way better this way and they got the back piece correct on their clone and Medicom did not get it right.

I hope you're joking. The Medicom ST compared to the SS version is like having the 6th guy off the bench in basketball go against Michael Jordan in his prime. Thats why I'm glad that I sold my Medicom version cause it just looks really odd compared to the SS version which got it right.

thenammagazine
05-07-2009, 07:23 AM
I hope you're joking. The Medicom ST compared to the SS version is like having the 6th guy off the bench in basketball go against Michael Jordan in his prime. Thats why I'm glad that I sold my Medicom version cause it just looks really odd compared to the SS version which got it right.

He isn't. He truly believes that the Medi is better despite the fact that it's not even in true 1:6 scale, has less detailed Hasbro-ey bendy armor, the shoulder armor is taped to the chest piece because it must've just been too hard to R&D anything realistic, the abdominal piece is molded with the pelvic piece (ala Hasbro) instead of being two separate pieces like the real deal and the belt is molded to it as well, not a separate piece, the blaster is completely sub par, the holster sewn not from leather, but from cheap pleather and glued together, and the body is constructed from egg shells.

The Medi was great for it's time in the spotlight, but that time's come and gone.

IrishJedi
05-07-2009, 09:13 AM
As far as the inaccuracies they where never that off to begin with so the tweaking was really minimal.

:duh :duh :duh

Lordscum
05-07-2009, 09:52 AM
Just got off the phone with SS , processing notices should go out tomorrow
and the exclusives should start shipping next week!

IrishJedi
05-07-2009, 09:54 AM
Just got off the phone with SS , processing notices should go out tomorrow
and the exclusives should start shipping next week!

:rock :rock :rock

Amanaman
05-07-2009, 10:10 AM
Medi's stitched bodysuit is miles better than painted pinstripes.

IrishJedi
05-07-2009, 10:16 AM
Medi's stitched bodysuit is miles better than painted pinstripes.

That I actually agree with. It's now the one thing that kinda bugs me about the SSC and where the Medi clones are clearly better.

thenammagazine
05-07-2009, 10:16 AM
Medi's stitched bodysuit is miles better than painted pinstripes.

The latter, if I remember reading correctly, is actually the more accurate.

IrishJedi
05-07-2009, 10:18 AM
The latter, if I remember reading correctly, is actually screen accurate.

:lol True... since technically all Clones in the movies are "painted" with pixels.

The undersuit is supposed to be ribbed, though.

Deak Starkiller
05-07-2009, 10:21 AM
:lol True... since technically all Clones in the movies are "painted" with pixels.

The undersuit is supposed to be ribbed, though.

They're not real? :duh

Darth_Finger
05-07-2009, 10:45 AM
They're not real? :duh

Dont you hate that

Darklord Dave
05-07-2009, 11:38 AM
Medi's stitched bodysuit is miles better than painted pinstripes.

Except the stitching on the Medi is way out of scale and the SSC printed stripes look more like it appeared in the film.

IrishJedi
05-07-2009, 11:41 AM
Except the stitching on the Medi is way out of scale and the SSC printed stripes look more like it appeared in the film.

I don't know about that.

And I think the stitching on the Medi looks great.

joda76
05-07-2009, 11:59 AM
Yeah I still prefer the Medi stitching and overall proportions of the figure. Im going with the SSC though cause all other areas they own imo.

SilentSurfer
05-07-2009, 12:08 PM
Yep, time to sell the Medis cause you just know SS will be doing the Special Ops (blue) and Shock (red) Troopers eventually since it's no more than a repaint job. The Medis go well enough with the SS, but the SS will have better paint aps and weapons. And they will be 2/3rds the price of Medi. Bring 'em on SS. Just need a Ep II helmet, and we have those too. Just a waiting game now.

Sideshow shoots. And scores!:fireworks

Valfar
05-07-2009, 10:26 PM
He isn't. He truly believes that the Medi is better despite the fact that it's not even in true 1:6 scale, has less detailed Hasbro-ey bendy armor, the shoulder armor is taped to the chest piece because it must've just been too hard to R&D anything realistic, the abdominal piece is molded with the pelvic piece (ala Hasbro) instead of being two separate pieces like the real deal and the belt is molded to it as well, not a separate piece, the blaster is completely sub par, the holster sewn not from leather, but from cheap pleather and glued together, and the body is constructed from egg shells.

The Medi was great for it's time in the spotlight, but that time's come and gone.

..I did say the SSC Stormie's armour was better from the knees up compared to the Medi but!!! SSC got the details wrong on the helmet(while still a pass),shin armour,cod piece,coiled neck piece is not even plastic and ribbed, it is fabric..and as for scale, the medicom fits fine against my Vader and thats all that matters to me and, as it was pointed out there was various heights of troopers anyway, scale matters but, not as much as details within the design of the character and getting it right.

And one last thing, the SSC Stormtrooper right out of the box..reminds me of a short * fat man..with the mods in place?, much better.

Luis138
05-08-2009, 04:21 AM
And one last thing, the SSC Stormtrooper right out of the box..reminds me of a short * fat man..with the mods in place?, much better.

:horror :eek

Luis

Valfar
05-08-2009, 04:46 AM
:horror :eek

Luis

Yea man!, why do you think we have to boil the chest piece and pull the codpiece out more? haha!.

thenammagazine
05-08-2009, 08:47 AM
..I did say the SSC Stormie's armour was better from the knees up compared to the Medi but!!! SSC got the details wrong on the helmet(while still a pass),shin armour,cod piece,coiled neck piece is not even plastic and ribbed, it is fabric..and as for scale, the medicom fits fine against my Vader and thats all that matters to me and, as it was pointed out there was various heights of troopers anyway, scale matters but, not as much as details within the design of the character and getting it right.

And one last thing, the SSC Stormtrooper right out of the box..reminds me of a short *fat man..with the mods in place?, much better.

Not really. You're still defending an inferior product against one that is far superior in almost every aspect. And what's with the name calling? It's like every post now. You lack the ability to have any real discussion without it? Goes toward proving ignorance.

Valfar
05-08-2009, 09:31 AM
Not really. You're still defending an inferior product against one that is far superior in almost every aspect. And what's with the name calling? It's like every post now. You lack the ability to have any real discussion without it? Goes toward proving ignorance.

Well, it is because when ever i make a point about a figure in difference and state it was in my opinion, you lash out at me with with absurd reasons about anything i say that compares the latest Stormtrooper from SSC to Medicom and it seems as if you are not seeing these differences i mention as they are plain in sight when viewing both figures, bottom line they both have flaws but, you make it sound like the bloody SSC one is perfect or something..the comment about me thinking the Medicom was true 1/6th scale is BS but, i did say(after your garbage bablings) that the Medicom still for its size can stand with the SSC and be a realistic height...now that is if you can get your SSC Stormie to stand mind you, and thats a fact.

Now the Clone we have here is something i can actually say i am impressed about, maybe aside from the lack of ribbing detail on the body glove but, the appearance overal kicks their last armoured figure aside as being their best one yet.

LOPIE
05-08-2009, 09:36 AM
I just got the notice from SS they're going to start charging on the 11th, so hopefully I'll get mine on the 18th or so. Can't wait to get that thing in.

thenammagazine
05-08-2009, 09:55 AM
Well, it is because when ever i make a point about a figure in difference and state it was in my opinion, you lash out at me with with absurd reasons about anything i say that compares the latest Stormtrooper from SSC to Medicom and it seems as if you are not seeing these differences i mention as they are plain in sight when viewing both figures, bottom line they both have flaws but, you make it sound like the bloody SSC one is perfect or something..the comment about me thinking the Medicom was true 1/6th scale is BS but, i did say(after your garbage bablings) that the Medicom still for its size can stand with the SSC and be a realistic height...now that is if you can get your SSC Stormie to stand mind you, and thats a fact.

Did you actually read my reply to Josh? I've never said SS's Stormtrooper was perfect and even gave Medi kudos for it's time, but you can't ignore the Medi's shortcomings I listed, yet that's exactly what you seem to do. Additionally, 1/6 scale isn't just referring to the height of the figure, but the overall proportions. Take a good look at the nude RAH they used for the figure. The body size is that of a boy, not a man.

BuddyGus
05-08-2009, 10:15 AM
Got my processing alert, May 11th. I can't wait to put this guy next to General Kenobi.

Lordscum
05-08-2009, 10:19 AM
Got mine as well !! Looking forward to adding it to my collection. At least now ROTS Kenobi has someone to interact with aside from Jedi.

DarthNeil
05-08-2009, 11:02 AM
Let's keep the conversation on track guys and leave out the name calling-- Might I again suggest that you use the ignore option?

MicroJow
05-08-2009, 11:05 AM
Send in the CLONES!!!!

agen_kolar
05-08-2009, 11:43 AM
Got my processing alert.

Deak Starkiller
05-08-2009, 12:39 PM
Let's keep the conversation on track guys and leave out the name calling-- Might I again suggest that you use the ignore option?

How do I ignore "certain people"?

DarthTrafford
05-08-2009, 07:35 PM
Got my processing alert.

I got mine tonight as well, they'll process on the 11th!
:chew

Glennfett
05-08-2009, 08:59 PM
got my notice alert too!!!
I have 2 212th on order ;)
Send in the CLOWNS!!!!

JGouse0498
05-08-2009, 10:19 PM
Got mine too. Hopefully it won't be more than a week and a half.

OSCORP
05-09-2009, 10:17 AM
No idea if these have been posted, but here ya go.(tk pics)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3506975629_b546b61817_o.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/3507796244_1fd74fea82_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3563/3507782926_12e7dc05af_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3400/3506975961_cbdb41ddab_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3304/3506976177_7ddca68743_o.jpg

automaton
05-09-2009, 01:36 PM
nice pics!

gotta give props to SS... don't get me wrong, i dig Medicom, but SS took Medicom's "boy" clone and turned him into a man.

Valfar
05-09-2009, 01:40 PM
nice pics!

gotta give props to SS... don't get me wrong, i dig Medicom, but SS took Medicom's "boy" clone and turned him into a man.


Whaaa?, boy? they look to be in scale to me but, i think the SS one is way way better in detail and looks like there is no need for mods here, no fatman armor to be reshaped and it looks like this armor fits the body much better then their last Stormtrooper offering.

automaton
05-09-2009, 02:59 PM
it's not so much a height thing... the SS Clone seems to have more of a presence... he looks like a soldier... the Medicom obviously has a lot less bulk and a waist like a 10 year old boy... they look like Batman and Robin standing next to each other!

congrats SS... for not resting on your laurels and pushing it to the next level.

shocktrooper_au
05-09-2009, 04:48 PM
Can't wait, good to be getting a trooper of a healthy adult build, can't wait to pose with the rifle behind Clonobi. If it wasn't for the cost I wish I could get 2 & sell my Medi

Darklord Dave
05-09-2009, 05:09 PM
it's not so much a height thing... the SS Clone seems to have more of a presence... he looks like a soldier... the Medicom obviously has a lot less bulk and a waist like a 10 year old boy... they look like Batman and Robin standing next to each other!

congrats SS... for not resting on your laurels and pushing it to the next level.

Maybe the Medi is where they Genossins (sp?) accidentally dropped the Y chromosome and created a Bobess Fett? (it's a girl, in other words).

RICEaRONI
05-09-2009, 05:11 PM
Can't wait, good to be getting a trooper of a healthy adult build, can't wait to pose with the rifle behind Clonobi. If it wasn't for the cost I wish I could get 2 & sell my Medi

Utapau wasn't until ROTS so technically Clonobi wasnt around :lol

mine will be going right next to ROTS Obi, if only he came with a wrist hologram of Sidious


no but this figure looks tight. definitely looking forward to SS's future clone troopers if they come out looking like this one :chew



Maybe the Medi is where they Genossins (sp?) accidentally dropped the Y chromosome and created a Bobess Fett? (it's a girl, in other words).

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

those crazy Geonosians

they would have to change the breastplate in order to *cough* accommodate them though

shocktrooper_au
05-09-2009, 05:14 PM
Utapau wasn't until ROTS so technically Clonobi wasnt around :lol


no but this figure looks tight. definitely looking forward to SS's future clone troopers if they come out looking like this one :chew

Yeah I know but that little technical issue doesn't bother me, and if I use my Ep3 Kenobi it will just upset my whole display as I'll have to find a new spot for Anakin

RICEaRONI
05-09-2009, 05:18 PM
Yeah I know but that little technical issue doesn't bother me, and if I use my Ep3 Kenobi it will just upset my whole display as I'll have to find a new spot for Anakin


true true, just get a little 1/12 scale obi and have him falling off your shelf so it looks like he just got blasted :naughty

Valfar
05-09-2009, 05:21 PM
it's not so much a height thing... the SS Clone seems to have more of a presence... he looks like a soldier... the Medicom obviously has a lot less bulk and a waist like a 10 year old boy... they look like Batman and Robin standing next to each other!

congrats SS... for not resting on your laurels and pushing it to the next level.

Sorry, i am not seeing it at all..the waist looks just about the same in thickness to me according to those pics..and this "he looks like a soldier" ppffttt! they are pretty close , but the SSC one edges out in detail and better weapons in my opinion.


And you have to remember, these two are from different lines from different parts of Asia and i believe the Medicom Clone is much taller then their old Stormtrooper release, Medicom has fixed their scale issue now with most new releases TDK Batman and Han Solo are examples.

OSCORP
05-09-2009, 05:26 PM
Too bad it's still got loose joints.

Valfar
05-09-2009, 05:31 PM
Too bad it's still got loose joints.

That is one thing i just can't stand about my SSC Stormtrooper, the bloody ankles..i mean he stands on his own crouched over a bit and thats the only way i can get him stable, hell my Medicom now is taller or same height as the SS Stormie now anyway so, who cares about height when you can't get the rag doll to stand up.It would suck to have this happend with this new clone, i think figures look stupid with the base displayed with them and plus it takes up more room.

FQRizzo
05-09-2009, 05:35 PM
All of my figures, including Hot Toys and Medicom ones, are on stands. So I don't give one ^^^^ if they can stand on their own.

Alice
05-09-2009, 06:16 PM
Genossins (sp?)

Kaminoans.
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thenammagazine
05-09-2009, 06:42 PM
Sorry, i am not seeing it at all..the waist looks just about the same in thickness to me according to those pics..and this "he looks like a soldier" ppffttt! they are pretty close , but the SSC one edges out in detail and better weapons in my opinion.


And you have to remember, these two are from different lines from different parts of Asia and i believe the Medicom Clone is much taller then their old Stormtrooper release, Medicom has fixed their scale issue now with most new releases TDK Batman and Han Solo are examples.

Here's what everyone is talking about. That's the Medicom body on the left. Regardless if you put extenders on the legs (which they did with the clone troopers) or not, the overall physical proportions of the body are still those of a boy:


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1237/769666046_fbbbd4d26d.jpg?v=0

Darth_Finger
05-09-2009, 06:45 PM
Which body is in the middle and on the right :confused:

thenammagazine
05-09-2009, 06:47 PM
Which body is in the middle and on the right :confused:

The middle is a BBi and the right is a TrueType. ;)

Darth_Finger
05-09-2009, 07:04 PM
Is that the new special edition HT on the righ?

Alice
05-09-2009, 07:11 PM
Nope. Regular TT.
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Valfar
05-09-2009, 07:43 PM
Here's what everyone is talking about. That's the Medicom body on the left. Regardless if you put extenders on the legs (which they did with the clone troopers) or not, the overall physical proportions of the body are still those of a boy:


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1237/769666046_fbbbd4d26d.jpg?v=0

We are talking about a armored figure is it not?, and there is the Massive RAH body as well..maybe you never thought about that huh?, the mid section on that regular RAH is the same if not thicker then the BBI its the shoulder width and height that lacks with the regular RAH body..Medicom has tweaked things with their bodies since then..so, that pic has got to be older, thats just a regular RAH body with no extenders and i mean, like said they are different makes and have differences but, i am not seeing the fricken EPIII Medicom Clone looking like a boy..thats just absurd.

shocktrooper_au
05-09-2009, 07:47 PM
Absurd?... umm nope & with the leg extenders in it, it looks like a T-rex (short stubby arms in comparison)... the medi with extenders may be the same height but only a superslim - skeletal frame could fit into those proportions

Valfar
05-09-2009, 07:57 PM
No idea if these have been posted, but here ya go.(tk pics)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3551/3506975629_b546b61817_o.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/3507796244_1fd74fea82_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3563/3507782926_12e7dc05af_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3400/3506975961_cbdb41ddab_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3304/3506976177_7ddca68743_o.jpg

So, looking at these pics of the Medi and the SSC troopers together..you really think they are off that much to say the medi looks like a boy?..i am not blind at all i swear! or that guy just switched the body on the Medicom because it is a very smige smaller but, not like holy eat something!.

shocktrooper_au
05-09-2009, 08:31 PM
Whoever took these must be congratulated.. I think its the first time someone has put the 2 brands together without making one deliberately look retarded...

If I was too guess the weight of the guys who would wear those. I'd say the Medi was a guy of 65kg (give or take a couple) while the SSC looks like he'd be 80+kg

Personally I just prefer the beefier frame for a military figure

Valfar
05-09-2009, 08:40 PM
Whoever took these must be congratulated.. I think its the first time someone has put the 2 brands together without making one deliberately look retarded...

:lol That is so true.

Scarlet
05-09-2009, 08:57 PM
Here's what everyone is talking about. That's the Medicom body on the left. Regardless if you put extenders on the legs (which they did with the clone troopers) or not, the overall physical proportions of the body are still those of a boy:


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1237/769666046_fbbbd4d26d.jpg?v=0

Some peeps don't know what they are talking about.
Medicom Body has many types. Regular kai and massive are just two of the common ones. If you have a variation of Medicom figs(IHaving a few Medicom SW figs is not a variation) you know Medicom have bodies of differnt size and bulk. Spawn, Venom, Carnage, Fist of the North Star are few of the examples.

The one on the pic shows a regular kai body with 5 mm extenders.

The extenders that came with clones are 12mm. And who needs bulk for armored characters? Seems that TDK Bats is using regular body with exteder but is as tall and at the PERFECT(maybe almost) bulk compared to HT TDK fatman.

Scarlet
05-09-2009, 08:59 PM
Anyways the reason why the SS clones look bulkier is not due to the body but the size of the armor. Medicom's are a tighter fit thus looked slimmer whilst SS Clones' are bigger thus will be a little loose.

Valfar
05-09-2009, 09:06 PM
The extenders that came with clones are 12mm. And who needs bulk for armored characters? Seems that TDK Bats is using regular body with exteder but is as tall and at the PERFECT(maybe almost) bulk compared to HT TDK fatman.

ZOMG!! perfectly explained fact.

automaton
05-10-2009, 01:33 AM
"who needs bulk for armored characters"

SST Clone seems to be beyond simply being bulky... it's as if it has a presence and an sense of swagger.

Medicom did a great job... don't get me wrong, i dig their product line... but, in my opinion, SST surpassed them... it's like they took the "doll" out of Medicom's Clone and gave us something closer to a kick a$$ Hot Toys product... but then i like my Batman movies without Robin, some people dig the kid... so now there is something for all of us!

nash
05-10-2009, 02:24 AM
Imo, HOT TOYS is the reason why Sideshow is doing armored figures and able to be competitive in the 1/6th market.

Without hot toys helping them design their Pro body and armor, where would they be?

Scarlet
05-10-2009, 02:47 AM
"who needs bulk for armored characters"

SST Clone seems to be beyond simply being bulky... it's as if it has a presence and an sense of swagger.

Medicom did a great job... don't get me wrong, i dig their product line... but, in my opinion, SST surpassed them... it's like they took the "doll" out of Medicom's Clone and gave us something closer to a kick a$$ Hot Toys product... but then i like my Batman movies without Robin, some people dig the kid... so now there is something for all of us!

The "doll" appearance on Medicom figure is due to lack of weathering. I have customed Medi Clones and a Hurricane custom Cody and they are far beyond "dolls' trust me. What's looks right with SSC clones are due to weathering. Give me a Medi-Clone and I can weather it and they'll be as good as the SSC version under 10 mins. Dry brushing and airbrushed "dirt" and "grime" here and there and its perfect.

nash
05-10-2009, 02:53 AM
The "doll" appearance on Medicom figure is due to lack of weathering. I have customed Medi Clones and a Hurricane custom Cody and they are far beyond "dolls' trust me. What's looks right with SSC clones are due to weathering. Give me a Medi-Clone and I can weather it and they'll be as good as the SSC version under 10 mins. Dry brushing and airbrushed "dirt" and "grime" here and there and its perfect.

I think any intelligent discussion is just a waste of time bro. most of these cats are just looking for reasons to stroke their SSC egos.

kazukijun
05-10-2009, 02:55 AM
I think any intelligent discussion is just a waste of time bro. most of these cats are just looking for reasons to stroke their SSC egos.

quoted for truth!!!

Alice
05-10-2009, 03:35 AM
I like my Mediclone. I like the fact that the armour is nice and tight. I think he looks fine next to Clone Obi. I don't like the fact that the Medibody is so fragile. Glad the joints are tight, but I'm too scared to be too rough with him. I think the Medibody is good for an armoured figure because of its compact size, and it ends up looking good when it's armoured up.

I like the fact that Clone Obi can get in some pretty dynamic poses, because the body feels more sturdy. Don't like the fact that all the joints are loose making the fact that he can be posed dynamically pretty useless. I also don't like the looseness of the armour. Could be a bit tighter without hindering poseability. Also, I still think the SS helmet is way, way off, but I really don't care, since I don't like the Phase II helmet anyway.

Both have their pros and cons. Saying one is obsolete makes no sense. They're both good and bad in their own ways. I'll be picking up some SS clones later if they do some Phase I clones, but I won't be getting rid of my Medi anytime soon.
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automaton
05-10-2009, 04:43 AM
"I think any intelligent discussion is just a waste of time bro. most of these cats are just looking for reasons to stroke their SSC egos."

hey, i am up for intelligent conversation... i won't even let your passive - aggressive backhand get me on the defense... just talking toys dude...for the last three years i have been championing Medicom's achievements... i have about as little "SSC ego" as it comes... you can check my past posts, it's all there in black and white...

"Without hot toys helping them design their Pro body and armor, where would they be?"

perhaps the more relevant question is "where would we be?" and the answer... missing out.

i do recognize this jump SST has made with their Clone and i am willing to reevaluate... i am only wanting the best representation possible, and as of now, SST has it... to be fair, i would really like to get this figure in hand before making a final judgement on it...

Scarlet... in my eyes, it isn't only about the weathering... like i have said, it's in the swagger... the SST looks not only looks like a real dude in armor, it looks like a "keep the f#$k out of his way" dude in armor... the figure has a build where the Shocktrooper appears to be wearing a training bra... again, i am a Medicom fan... more importantly, i am a Star Wars fan... and i really feel like SST just threw a surprise punch, and instead of countering, i can't help to be hit... i have seen your work and have complemented within many threads but, even you couldn't make a horse jockey look like a football player...

regardless... beauty is in the eye of the beholder... it's all art and obviously it is doing its job as we are all so passionate about it!

VOTR_Ed
05-10-2009, 04:56 AM
More pics of this figure kicking ass, please, a little less nitpicking. Thanks! :D

FQRizzo
05-10-2009, 05:18 AM
More pics of this figure kicking ass, please, a little less nitpicking. Thanks! :D

Yeah, we can do without the Medicom circlejurk that is developing here.

Unfortunately, nobody has this in hand yet so this is what we get.

Scarlet
05-10-2009, 05:36 AM
Yeah, we can do without the Medicom circlejurk that is developing here.

Unfortunately, nobody has this in hand yet so this is what we get.

Who's the medicom circle jerk?

The Josh
05-10-2009, 10:36 AM
Medicom's clones are awesome. I'm glad to have mine but I have to say that my customized ones by Josh show the coolness the SS one does in the pics we've seen. That's why for me personally I like the SS one more cause I don't feel to get that level I have to send it to someone.

Lee in MI
05-10-2009, 10:45 AM
The Medi looks good and so does the SSC one. It should be expected that the SSC clone SHOULD (reserving full credit and declaring SS the winner until we get more pics and more figs in hand) slightly edge out the medi since they have the advantage of seeing the competition before submitting their entry into the market. I can't say I think they bested medi with the clone obi submission...so hopefully this is better.

As a matter of fact, I would think less of SSC if they didn't 1) Improve on the clone obi armor and 2) Make an at least slightly better clone than Medi.:D

Lee in MI
05-10-2009, 10:47 AM
Medicom's clones are awesome. I'm glad to have mine but I have to say that my customized ones by Josh show the coolness the SS one does in the pics we've seen. That's why for me personally I like the SS one more cause I don't feel to get that level I have to send it to someone.

That's precisely why HTs would make better SW figures...but that's another argument:monkey5:D:monkey5:D

IrishJedi
05-10-2009, 12:44 PM
I like the Mediclones, too. In fact, I think they are by far the best SW figures that they make. They're quite accurate and pretty much in-scale with other 1:6 figures. My only qualms with them are the price and the Hasbro-quality blaster (which is also the only accessory). I do not find them to be a good value at all.

I'm glad that the Medicom clones will apparently display well with the Sideshow ones.

Darklord Dave
05-10-2009, 03:38 PM
Imo, HOT TOYS is the reason why Sideshow is doing armored figures and able to be competitive in the 1/6th market.

Without hot toys helping them design their Pro body and armor, where would they be?

Hot Toys assisted with the armor body, which is basically a skinnier truetype. SSC developed the Pro on their own.

If you're going to put forth unreasonable bias against SSC, at least have the facts straight.

OSCORP
05-10-2009, 03:47 PM
Yeah Nash, i mean it's obvious HT wasn't that involved, otherwise the joints would've been tight, and still not loose months after release. (of course that just might be a factory thing i dunno)



/prays the Han and Luke troopers have tighter joints.

galactiboy
05-10-2009, 04:14 PM
I like the Mediclones, too. In fact, I think they are by far the best SW figures that they make. They're quite accurate and pretty much in-scale with other 1:6 figures. My only qualms with them are the price and the Hasbro-quality blaster (which is also the only accessory). I do not find them to be a good value at all.

I'm glad that the Medicom clones will apparently display well with the Sideshow ones.

My only issue with the Medi Clones were that they had very little poseability. Great base body, but ended-up being pretty useless.

joda76
05-10-2009, 04:47 PM
My plans were to go with 2 Medicom Ep III white clones and get them painted. I had them before and liked them but sold them in hopes of SSC making great ones.
I changed my mind though because I planning on a Medicom Anakin
So I got a white one a few weeks back and was gonna get my 2nd one til I saw Daves pics of the 212th.
Now for me to get them painted with shipping would be about $85 each.
Plus I figure about $110 per fig unless I find a great deal. So for $390 I could have a custom 501st and custom 212th Medicoms.
So price was a no brainer-SSC wins that. But I asked myself-self are the Medicom worth it? I analyzed everything I could think of from articulation to paint.
Back to Daves pics!
Your pics sealed the deal. Im not gonna pay almost $400 when I can spend $180 and be happier in the end.
I liked these areas SSC had to offer.
Price
Paint job
Posability-stand or not
More realistic look
Fisted hands
Rifle
No sending in my figs for paint

These are just my opinions and how I broke it down.
I think they are both nice figs and both have Positives and Negatives.
SSC wins for me

Valfar
05-10-2009, 04:52 PM
The SSC 212th Clone is the way to go and it is superior looking to the Medicom for sure,even if the helmet is slightly not canon to the CG ones in the film but, i like SSC version better then the movie ones so, down the road i will pick this one up, it totally blows away their Stormtrooper release.

joda76
05-10-2009, 04:56 PM
I hear you Valfar, wish all the figs would just come out perfect! (wishful thinking)
The biggest thing with the Stormy for me is the loose joints, especially the ankles otherwise I love it. Boil and shine baby!

thenammagazine
05-10-2009, 09:25 PM
We are talking about a armored figure is it not?, and there is the Massive RAH body as well..maybe you never thought about that huh?, the mid section on that regular RAH is the same if not thicker then the BBI its the shoulder width and height that lacks with the regular RAH body..Medicom has tweaked things with their bodies since then..so, that pic has got to be older, thats just a regular RAH body with no extenders and i mean, like said they are different makes and have differences but, i am not seeing the fricken EPIII Medicom Clone looking like a boy..thats just absurd.

Before posting that, you should've looked at your Medicom Stormtrooper body. It's the same as the one in that image, only white. But ...maybe you never thought about that huh?


So, looking at these pics of the Medi and the SSC troopers together..you really think they are off that much to say the medi looks like a boy?..i am not blind at all i swear! or that guy just switched the body on the Medicom because it is a very smige smaller but, not like holy eat something!.

Look how short Medi's arms look. Fully extended, they end just after the hip. And yes, the RAH looks like a boy. :lol


Some peeps don't know what they are talking about.
Medicom Body has many types. Regular kai and massive are just two of the common ones. If you have a variation of Medicom figs(IHaving a few Medicom SW figs is not a variation) you know Medicom have bodies of differnt size and bulk. Spawn, Venom, Carnage, Fist of the North Star are few of the examples.

The one on the pic shows a regular kai body with 5 mm extenders.

The extenders that came with clones are 12mm. And who needs bulk for armored characters? Seems that TDK Bats is using regular body with exteder but is as tall and at the PERFECT(maybe almost) bulk compared to HT TDK fatman.

Again, see the subject matter being discussed. Valfar responded to Josh calling the Medicom Stormtrooper a boy. It was the Medicom stormtrooper body, which, again, is identical to the one in the picture I posted except for slightly bigger extenders and being white. Additionally, it's not just the height, but the physical proportions too. The arms are considerably shorter, shoulders are narrower as well and the chest less broad.

Valfar
05-10-2009, 11:42 PM
Before posting that, you should've looked at your Medicom Stormtrooper body. It's the same as the one in that image, only white. But ...maybe you never thought about that huh?

Oh great, the troll has awoken!..I am well aware of that its the same body but, the Stomie has larger extenders unlike the one in that pic and why the hell would i want any more mass on a armored body?, medicom are king for armored figures, just look at their TDK Batman or Kamen figures now STFU..go write about airsoft or something.


Again, see the subject matter being discussed. Valfar responded to Josh calling the Medicom Stormtrooper a boy.

Uhh, he was calling the Medicom EPIII Clone a boy and yet its pretty much the same height as the SSC one and even look at the forearm gauntlets on the Medicom, they are thicker..but, whatever they match up pretty good..now if this Douche knew anything about armor accuracy then he would STFU again if he realized Medicom's Stormtrooper got most pieces of the armor (even if they are not separated in the torso,which i think is canon anyway) like the shin and thigh armor being shaped more like the ones on screen and not loose and bloated, and we get a more accurate looking helmet with that as well(even if its not ANH style). SSC got lots right on their Stormie but, not on the more important areas like the helmet,leg armor,body being loose,loose ankles,no shine at all on the armor,paint rub on the hands,aereators not even close to being canon and needing touch ups,chest piece needs boiling,bad paint aps on brow(mine is fine though),eyes have overspray,burrs on some pieces of the armor and so on, that figure needed lots of work out of the box..its like you don't freaking understand.


Look how short Medi's arms look. Fully extended, they end just after the hip. And yes, the RAH looks like a boy.

Nope and nope!, not on my Medicom Stormtrooper.With arms fully extended down the sides, the hands reach quarter to mid thigh level, and you know we all just love SSC Jedi monkey man Lukes arms right? and the other chracters they did with various deformities and large heads.

devilof76
05-11-2009, 12:24 AM
I am well aware of that its the same body but, the Stomie has larger extenders unlike the one in that pic and why the hell would i want any more mass on a armored body?

So it could look like SSC's 212th trooper.


...the troll has awoken!..now if this Douche...

Namecalling is weak. :lecture

Valfar
05-11-2009, 12:45 AM
Before posting that, you should've looked at your Medicom Stormtrooper body. It's the same as the one in that image, only white. But ...maybe you never thought about that huh?



Look how short Medi's arms look. Fully extended, they end just after the hip. And yes, the RAH looks like a boy. :lol



Again, see the subject matter being discussed. Valfar responded to Josh calling the Medicom Stormtrooper a boy. It was the Medicom stormtrooper body, which, again, is identical to the one in the picture I posted except for slightly bigger extenders and being white. Additionally, it's not just the height, but the physical proportions too. The arms are considerably shorter, shoulders are narrower as well and the chest less broad.


So it could look like SSC's 212th trooper.



Namecalling is weak. :lecture

This guy stirs the pot with his endless BS so, i grow tired of him..he is like troll under the bridge and he quotes things i say and then replies with things that never even had to do with what i was originally talking about, and like stated earlier, Medicom has lots of different modified bodies they release...i don't see anyone mentioning the long list of mods as negatives that were needed for the SSC Stormie to look passable at most..oh but, we just can't have that right?.

As it stands, like i said before..both Medicom and SSC clones look like they display well with eachother and yes, the SSC Clone is probally their best looking armored figure yet in terms of paint application,while not canon to the CG clones still looks better then the Medicom one,better looking weapons,more weapons but, i am sure loose armor and loose ankles and not being able to stand might plague this new Clone..and hey! would loose armor remind you of someone not being big enough in it to begin with?, my SSC is loose with loose armor, Medicom is not loose at all.

Booyackashaa! i am done with the BS debate on Medicom vs Sideshow..i came in praising this new figure and still have to stick up for Medicom because of people presenting false info about Medicoms version of a Clonetrooper.

devilof76
05-11-2009, 01:08 AM
But from what I can tell from every picture I've seen, the minor mods that need to be done to the SSC stormtrooper leave it looking a lot better than Medicom's. There's no way to improve what's wrong with the little one. It may be tight, but it still doesn't look as solid, nor is it capable of the same degree of articulation.

Look, until these came out, Sideshow fans listened to non-stop comparisons of Medicom's god-awesome stormtroopers and clones, against Sideshow's (expected to be) god-awful non-existent stormtroopers and non-existent clones. What do you expect to have to do when Sideshow puts out stormtroopers and clones that are better (or in the stormie's case, capable of better)? You certainly can't rest on laurels. They've been passed.

kazukijun
05-11-2009, 01:22 AM
This guy stirs the pot with his endless BS so, i grow tired of him..he is like troll under the bridge and he quotes things i say and then replies with things that never even had to do with what i was originally talking about, and like stated earlier, Medicom has lots of different modified bodies they release...i don't see anyone mentioning the long list of mods as negatives that were needed for the SSC Stormie to look passable at most..oh but, we just can't have that right?.

As it stands, like i said before..both Medicom and SSC clones look like they display well with eachother and yes, the SSC Clone is probally their best looking armored figure yet in terms of paint application,while not canon to the CG clones still looks better then the Medicom one,better looking weapons,more weapons but, i am sure loose armor and loose ankles and not being able to stand might plague this new Clone..and hey! would loose armor remind you of someone not being big enough in it to begin with?, my SSC is loose with loose armor, Medicom is not loose at all.

Booyackashaa! i am done with the BS debate on Medicom vs Sideshow..i came in praising this new figure and still have to stick up for Medicom because of people presenting false info about Medicoms version of a Clonetrooper.

Well said, ppl seemed to ignore the amount of mods needed to get the SSC Stormie to look right.

From the pics,I do agree that the SSC Clone looks better in terms of paint & weapons but loose joints on a figure is a no no and having to spend money to replace the body is a bigger no. I've mentioned this before, My Clonobi left arm broke within one hour of simple posing.The joints were so loose that he could hardly hold his poses, if the 212th has the same tightness as Clonobi, I may just let
sell it and keep the weapons.

I still maintain that the SSC Clone helmet is inaccurate but ppl will probably start calling me a nit picker...but we dont really need that since, its been debated to death already previously.

But then I will wait until I received the figure in hand before passing anymore judgement....so SS please ship it to my local distributor soon, thks!

Valfar
05-11-2009, 01:34 AM
But from what I can tell from every picture I've seen, the minor mods that need to be done to the SSC stormtrooper leave it looking a lot better than Medicom's. There's no way to improve what's wrong with the little one. It may be tight, but it still doesn't look as solid, nor is it capable of the same degree of articulation.

Look, until these came out, Sideshow fans listened to non-stop comparisons of Medicom's god-awesome stormtroopers and clones, against Sideshow's (expected to be) god-awful non-existent stormtroopers and non-existent clones. What do you expect to have to do when Sideshow puts out stormtroopers and clones that are better (or in the stormie's case, capable of better)? You certainly can't rest on laurels. They've been passed.

How is a loose POS that can not even stand better?, how is not having plastic ribbing on the neck of a stormtrooper but, just cheap stitched fabric better?,how is rather then molding a stormtroopers left calf armor with properly raised texture instead by adding some piece that looks like a set of teeth glued into the calf better?,how is making a stormtroopers crotch plate the size of a young boys better?,how is making the chest plate tailored for a man with a fat chest and possible man titties better?..If Sideshow did atleast put a sticker on the box saying "warning,this figure looks like a fat guy with a small peter!,we got lazy so please boil chest armor,shine not included(we tricked you!), stand at own risk!".

devilof76
05-11-2009, 01:39 AM
:dunno

When it's modded, it still looks better. A lot better. (Who does that speak worse for?)

But when it comes to the clones, there is no contest whatsoever.

automaton
05-11-2009, 02:35 AM
no need for words.

devilof76
05-11-2009, 02:47 AM
:horror

That's even with no mods. Damn. Can't wait for the Sandtrooper...

Valfar
05-11-2009, 03:22 AM
no need for words.


calf armor on left leg is correct on Medicom and Sideshow WTF is that?, and really how long ago did the Medicom come out before the SSC was developed?, long time now..and really, just think about this. Would a woman take a tall man with a short "one" over a shorter man with a bigger "one"? :lol.

T.E.D
05-11-2009, 03:27 AM
You just won't let this go will you, but please carry on it's quite entertaining.

Glennfett
05-11-2009, 04:41 AM
and here i thought this was the thread about the 212th Utapau clone trooper.....

devilof76
05-11-2009, 05:19 AM
No, it's the billboard for Medi-trooper's perfect calves.

FQRizzo
05-11-2009, 05:31 AM
I often sit up late at night worrying about perfect calf-armor. :lol

HugeBadWolf
05-11-2009, 06:30 AM
I often sit up late at night worrying about perfect calf-armor. :lol

So I'm not the only one.
Is there a support group for us anywhere?
lol

Cheers,
Doug

The Josh
05-11-2009, 07:11 AM
But from what I can tell from every picture I've seen, the minor mods that need to be done to the SSC stormtrooper leave it looking a lot better than Medicom's. There's no way to improve what's wrong with the little one. It may be tight, but it still doesn't look as solid, nor is it capable of the same degree of articulation.

Look, until these came out, Sideshow fans listened to non-stop comparisons of Medicom's god-awesome stormtroopers and clones, against Sideshow's (expected to be) god-awful non-existent stormtroopers and non-existent clones. What do you expect to have to do when Sideshow puts out stormtroopers and clones that are better (or in the stormie's case, capable of better)? You certainly can't rest on laurels. They've been passed.

Pretty much :lecture People here had to read post after post from the Medi-folk who felt like they needed to ram it down the throats that the Medicom figure was better. It was when it had nothing to go against but thats not the case now even with Valfar making every inaccurate excuse he can. SS Clone looks to be that much better than Medicoms figures which doesn't knock how nice those came out by the way.

galactiboy
05-11-2009, 07:56 AM
I liked these areas SSC had to offer.
Price
Paint job
Posability-stand or not
More realistic look
Fisted hands
Rifle
No sending in my figs for paint

These are just my opinions and how I broke it down.
I think they are both nice figs and both have Positives and Negatives.
SSC wins for me

Have to agree with your observations... the SSC does become a better option. Also, the detail on the hand sculpts is much better... the Medi are fairly soft on detail whereas the SSC hands have little fabric wrinkles and seams added in.

thenammagazine
05-11-2009, 08:42 AM
calf armor on left leg is correct on Medicom and Sideshow WTF is that?, and really how long ago did the Medicom come out before the SSC was developed?, long time now..and really, just think about this. Would a woman take a tall man with a short "one" over a shorter man with a bigger "one"? :lol.

Hmmm, okay, let's see:


http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15381&d=1242034513

Sideshow Cons:
Thigh armor was reduced to add articulation.
Loose ankles.
Codpiece is too small.
Chest plate needs to be boiled and folded in.
Dull armor needs to be shined.
Helmet mics need to be smaller.
Corner of eyes needs to be touched up.
Small amount of gray paint needed for shoes.

Medicom cons:
Helmet looks too big in comparison to body.
"Teeth" not vented.
Shoulder armor has no forward "bell."
Upper arm armor is too small.
Shoulder armor is taped to chest armor.
Belt is molded to pelvic armor.
Thermal detonator molded to belt.
Abdominal piece is also molded to pelvic armor.
Holster is cheap pleather and glued together.
Body is extremely fragile.
Shoulders/chest too narrow.
Body not accurate 1:6
Legs look too short and almost "stubby."
Armor is less detailed.
Absolutely no detail on the shoes.
Blaster is too small and bent.

I'll leave out green vs. smoke lenses since both are accurate being hero vs. stunt. I'll also leave out the soft armor vs. the hard armor since that seems to be a matter of preference. Although, I think it was Medicom's choice to use the soft armor which prevented them from getting crisp detailing. That and taping the shoulder armor to the chest plate and molding the abdominal piece, belt, thermal detonator and pelvic piece together is a R&D cop out and not even close to achieving realism.

Again, the Medi was great for it's day. But that day has come and gone with the same thing happening with their clones if SS's turns out even half as good as it looks in the pics. My major issue is that you keep ignoring the glaring inaccuracy issues with the Medicom Stormtrooper which are significantly greater issues, while blasting away **** retentively at Sideshow's which you've had under a microscope since your first post in that thread and in the same post praising the Medi for it's "superiority."

Additionally, I don't have to resort to immature name calling or BS immature remarks like women preferring "size" to prove my point. Apparently you do though.

DarthNeil
05-11-2009, 08:50 AM
You just won't let this go will you, but please carry on it's quite entertaining.

Yes, please carry on if it's civilized. Please stop if all you can do is bash one another's opinion (and I have to stress that it is opinion--not fact).

galactiboy
05-11-2009, 11:04 AM
The hands on the Medicom Stormtrooper were kind of undersized as well... always looked off to me.

drod26
05-11-2009, 11:15 AM
Is this guy shipping yet?

thenammagazine
05-11-2009, 11:31 AM
Is this guy shipping yet?

The only shipping notice I've received is for the Ex Cobra Commander.

Lordscum
05-11-2009, 12:42 PM
Anyone charged yet??

I would think shipping on this would start today or tomorrow since it arrived in the warehouse last week.

Alice Adrenochrome
05-11-2009, 01:26 PM
:slap What a great thread. This place ain't never gone change. :slap

thenammagazine
05-11-2009, 02:22 PM
Anyone charged yet??

I would think shipping on this would start today or tomorrow since it arrived in the warehouse last week.

.......:huh

LoveMinusZero
05-11-2009, 03:08 PM
Face it, neither Stormtrooper is anything to write home about.

Glennfett
05-11-2009, 03:30 PM
these guys SHOULD be charged today or tomorrow ;) i know mine will be :)