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Deeznutz6
06-27-2011, 04:16 PM
Im hoping this one has some more tube socks and magic dust...

SOLIDSNAKE
06-27-2011, 06:25 PM
Wow. Critics are saying Rosie makes Megan look like Kate Winslet. Wonder how many winkys she sucked to get in this. Part 2 is the worst film ever made but this looks better. That's not saying much. Why do they have to be so long. 2 hours of dumbness is more than enough.

part 2 is the worst movie ever made. come on bro.

it is not that bad.

you want to see the worst movie ever made.
302 Found

the transformers series is one my favorite series of all time.
BAY FTW.

Lar'ja Thwei
06-27-2011, 06:36 PM
How was Transformers 2 enjoyable? How? It was just..it was worse than AvP:R.

It's unbearable.

Not asking for an oscar winner, cool if it's just mindless action..but still. It's just so... so..... :yuck

Hoping this one will be good, or atleast better, though.

The Ringer
06-27-2011, 06:38 PM
the transformers series is one my favorite series of all time.
BAY FTW.

:lecture

Perfect summer movies!

The Josh
06-27-2011, 06:48 PM
How was Transformers 2 enjoyable? How? It was just..it was worse than AvP:R.

It's unbearable.



Because, I enjoyed watching the movie and seeing all the stuff going on. I got what I was looking for in the movie with a story that was decent enough to keep me interested and good enough action to make me enjoy it. If others don't. Thats totally cool but remember what you think and feel doesn't make it so. Sorry to burst your bubble.

avproxs
06-27-2011, 07:03 PM
look bad to the ***:blissysmi

Nuka Cola Kidd
06-27-2011, 07:13 PM
Because, I enjoyed watching the movie and seeing all the stuff going on. I got what I was looking for in the movie with a story that was decent enough to keep me interested and good enough action to make me enjoy it. If others don't. Thats totally cool but remember what you think and feel doesn't make it so. Sorry to burst your bubble.

:exactly::exactly:

Reinhardt
06-27-2011, 07:27 PM
part 2 is the worst movie ever made. come on bro.

it is not that bad.

you want to see the worst movie ever made.
302 Found (http://youtu.be/OOo9d7yr9Jw)

the transformers series is one my favorite series of all time.
BAY FTW.

Is that who I think it is???

http://toblogor.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/erkel.jpg

CelticPredator
06-27-2011, 07:56 PM
How was Transformers 2 enjoyable? How? It was just..it was worse than AvP:R.

It's unbearable.

Not asking for an oscar winner, cool if it's just mindless action..but still. It's just so... so..... :yuck

Hoping this one will be good, or atleast better, though.

You're wrong. In every single way. If there was a word below wrong, its what you are. :lol

Devil_666
06-27-2011, 08:04 PM
So what's the plot for this one? :lol:lol:lol

I'm playing.

Glennfett
06-27-2011, 08:57 PM
I actually liked ROTF...the start was pretty cool...yeah the humans spoiled it a lot,the gags got a bit too much in the end...and they dropped the ball with Devestator and The Fallen.
Other than that,it had the mindless action i see in the cartoons ;)
Im sure this one will deliver exactly the same....and i will like it ;)

PapitoMX
06-27-2011, 09:11 PM
How was Transformers 2 enjoyable? How? It was just..it was worse than AvP:R.

It's unbearable.

Not asking for an oscar winner, cool if it's just mindless action..but still. It's just so... so..... :yuck

Hoping this one will be good, or atleast better, though.


Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, whoa... Take that back. Nothing was as bad as AVPR. Was ROTF a let down overall, yes. But I still love watching the action. I grow up with the Toys and cartoons. After the original animated movie (best transformers movie btw), the rest of the season went down hill. I feel Michael Bay has done a great job with the movies. He's an action Director and that is what he delivered.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 12:38 AM
Because, I enjoyed watching the movie and seeing all the stuff going on. I got what I was looking for in the movie with a story that was decent enough to keep me interested and good enough action to make me enjoy it. If others don't. Thats totally cool but remember what you think and feel doesn't make it so. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Makes it so to me. You're saying that my mind is wrong. If I don't like something, I don't like it it. So it does make it so. And enjoyable story? Jesus some of you on here are easy to please. I would much rather play one of the video games if I want action. At least then you can see what's going on.

darkknight
06-28-2011, 12:46 AM
Prepped for DOTM and watched ROTF today. Can't wait to see this.

CelticPredator
06-28-2011, 01:37 AM
I dont get the Bay bashers...

Mostly because they dont understand that the world can exist with something with a lot of heart and emotion like....i'll use a super obvious movie, Forrest Gump, and a movie like Speed. One film has subtexts, and messages about life, and America, and all that...the other, is a bomb on a bus.

There will be days I would rather watch a movie like There Will Be Blood, or the mentioned, Forrest Gump...and there will be days I want to watch Speed.

Same goes here. I'll go see The Kings Speech, and be moved, and enjoy the film. But I dont want to see that every day. I want to see some ____ blow up for 2 hours. I just want 2 hours of BAYHEM, and crude childish humor because I'm in the mood for that.

Michael Bay makes action movies. He always has, and always will. I love him for doing that. Other directors do genre hopping, which is totally great, but I like that there is someone out there who will almost always deliver what you expect.

Some people hate him for it. But I say, meh....

Some people call him a hack....I say, you're an wrong. He's not a hack. He has a style. We all make fun of it...but he has one. Unlike people like Paul W.S Anderson, or Brett Ratner, who have none.

Yeah, he's a one trick pony....but atleast by being one, you dont have to worry about a really lame in your face political subtext that's in your face. You know he's going to make a movie with 'Splosions with Hot Chicks who are sweaty.

Michael Bay is the Dollar Menu fast food burger. It aint great, but at the right time, it's ____ing satisfying. You know exactly what you're eating. You know it's not great. You know it's not high quailty....but man, at that moment, you're happy...because that awesome tastes good.

Eat that awesome! :lol

That's my Bay rant of the night. :D

CelticPredator
06-28-2011, 01:38 AM
Oh and Video Games require you to do ____, and in order to progress in the level, you might die a few times, getting frustrated, throwing the controller, and play at a later time...

A movie dont do that ____. You watch. And that's it.

Ra88
06-28-2011, 01:38 AM
At least this one has an actual plot and no MacGuffin. :lol

CelticPredator
06-28-2011, 01:40 AM
Or 7 like the last one...:lol

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 01:59 AM
I also enjoy watching stuff blow up. But take the god awful humans out of the equation. If I want a dumb action movie I'd watch Commando a hundred times over than ROTF. The first movie was so much better. I actually like the first one.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 02:00 AM
Oh and Video Games require you to do ____, and in order to progress in the level, you might die a few times, getting frustrated, throwing the controller, and play at a later time...

A movie dont do that ____. You watch. And that's it.

Lazy bastard

DinoLast
06-28-2011, 03:01 AM
Looking at the reviews it seems we are in for more of the same.
Not a bad thing if you are a fan of crap storylines, poor comedy, and robots hitting each other for two and a half hours.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 03:37 AM
Don't forget crap acting dino

DinoLast
06-28-2011, 04:21 AM
Don't forget crap acting dino

Oh yeah that as well.

I am still going to see it today as it does not cost me anything as long as I see it in 2D (I have to pay a £1.50 charge for 3D) I am taking my Nephew just as I did for the last two. I can always have snooze for two hours if it is as bad as part 2

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 04:24 AM
Lol. I think I did actually nod off during two. Hayley wanted to leave but I said I was quite comfortable half way down my seat.

Ricardofeitoza
06-28-2011, 04:30 AM
I love Transformers 1 And 2. Nevermind the haters!

Ricardofeitoza
06-28-2011, 04:32 AM
As it was mentioned above you do not sit to watch Transformers expecting a Schindler's list plot.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 04:48 AM
And this is why Hollywood constantly craps out this type of
Rubbish. Films like Green Lantern and G I Joe that cater to people who have the mental age of a six year old. Why can't a transformers film have a good plot and above par acting? Why does it have to have these lame jokes about Robots Masturbating over humans and especially why does Shia Le Bouf have to be in all of them? I say remake transformers. It can be a heck of alot better that what Bay has done. ____ing child!

Silasya77
06-28-2011, 05:17 AM
.and they dropped the ***** with Devestator

fixed. :wave

Side note, I can't wait for this movie. From what it sounds like from people who've watched it, it has the action of the second, and the heart of the first. :clap:lecture

IrishJedi
06-28-2011, 05:34 AM
Saw it last night. Better than Part 2 (then again, drinking kerosene & pissing on a fire is better than that) but overall just an average mindless Summer popcorn flick.

The Bay Apologists & Transformers fans will enjoy it and circle the wagons, but there's really nothing in this film you haven't seen before. It's not the transcending entry some had hoped.

Like POTC4, it'll make bank, though. And they'll just churn out more of the same.

Oh, and Rosie is indeed god awful. We're talking MST3K bad. Cringe worthy "performance" at times.

Cool robots, though. Except for that stupid little horney R/C truck thing with the Brooklyn accent. Unfortunately he returns along with some of Bay's 13 year old boy humor.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 05:41 AM
I'm being circumcised on Friday. I think that will be more enjoyable.

Kabukiman
06-28-2011, 06:40 AM
I'm deciding whether or not this movie is worth the $21 (each) it'll cost to get IMAX 3D tickets. $42 out of my pocket for myself and one other.

No movie is worth that.

Khev
06-28-2011, 07:20 AM
Cool robots, though. Except for that stupid little horney R/C truck thing with the Brooklyn accent. Unfortunately he returns along with some of Bay's 13 year old boy humor.

It has more leg humping robot crap? :slap

Not that I'm that surprised but I got the impression Bay was a little irked by the criticism of ROTF and was going to tone down some of the stupid crap.

Do you mind spoiling some of the "13 year old humor" bits? I would like to know before deciding whether or not to subject the wife to this.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 07:28 AM
Wow. That tomato meter is falling rapidly. Here I was hoping it might be better than 2. Oh well. Bay only makes movies that satisfy his own 10 year old brain.

SOLIDSNAKE
06-28-2011, 07:47 AM
I hate roten tomatoes. they dont do a thing for me.

If i listen to all there crap reviews I would never see the best movies.

pffftttt roten tomatoes can suck my ____.

a friend of mine that works for a movie magazine saw the movie already and he told me that people are going to get up there seats and cheer for some of the action scenes.

mega pumped for this movie.

Nacho
06-28-2011, 07:50 AM
Got tix pre-ordered for this Sunday night. Decided to watch it
in 2D. I'm over the 3D hype.

IrishJedi
06-28-2011, 07:58 AM
a friend of mine that works for a movie magazine saw the movie already and he told me that people are going to get up there seats and cheer for some of the action scenes.

If that happens, I'd bet most of these are the same people who watch car races hoping to see a huge accident.

There is nothing special about this movie. It's just... there. It's not a horrific piece of crap or anything, but it's hardly something I'd want to rally around.

It is better than the 2nd, though. Not sure anyone would dispute that.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 07:58 AM
It's because of thier reviews I rarely see crap movies. They aren't thier reviews anyway, they round up all reviews and post the score. Usually if a film gets in the 90's it's obviously got to be something special. If it is way below 50% logic says it can't be very good. Should have taken note of thier Green Lantern reviews. I have never in my life seen people jump and get excited for action scenes at the cinema and I can't it happening with this. Maybe some 10 year olds will though.

niennumb1
06-28-2011, 08:04 AM
I'm going for a 9pm IMAX 3D pre-release showing tonight. Can't wait!

Oh... and don't base your opinion on the opinion of other people. There have been a lot of movies out there I loved that critics hated. In the end they are people like us and don't really have a favorable opinion over your own. If you love it, then great. If not, then that's okay too.

See it cuz you wanna see it!

IrishJedi
06-28-2011, 08:05 AM
I would give GREEN LANTERN the edge over this. At the very least, it's immeasurably more original. And Blake Lively is Meryl Streep compared to this Rosie chick.

If you've seen the first two TRANSFORMERS flicks, you've basically seen this one and should know what to expect. A few different set pieces doesn't make for a wholly unique movie. It's better than the 2nd, but not quite as good as the 1st. That's my assessment in a nutshell.

Some of the 3D is better than average, though... forgot to mention that.

WilltheThrill
06-28-2011, 08:14 AM
I would give GREEN LANTERN the edge over this. At the very least, it's immeasurably more original. And Blake Lively is Meryl Streep compared to this Rosie chick.

If you've seen the first two TRANSFORMERS flicks, you've basically seen this one and should know what to expect. A few different set pieces doesn't make for a wholly unique movie. It's better than the 2nd, but not quite as good as the 1st. That's my assessment in a nutshell.

Some of the 3D is better than average, though... forgot to mention that.

Really? Green Lantern was a pretty bad movie lol; my expectations are not that low for this movie. If anything both movies suffer from poor storytelling but from what I've been hearing this movie has way more action then Green Lantern. So I think I'm gonna give the edge to Transformers 3.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 08:15 AM
To be honest Ray I reckon if there was a film made about someone doing a 2 hour crap you'd still be pumped. You love everything. Lol

Darth Snoopy
06-28-2011, 08:16 AM
Because, I enjoyed watching the movie and seeing all the stuff going on. I got what I was looking for in the movie with a story that was decent enough to keep me interested and good enough action to make me enjoy it. If others don't. Thats totally cool but remember what you think and feel doesn't make it so. Sorry to burst your bubble.

:goodpost: :exactly:

Makes it so to me. You're saying that my mind is wrong. If I don't like something, I don't like it it. So it does make it so. And enjoyable story? Jesus some of you on here are easy to please. I would much rather play one of the video games if I want action. At least then you can see what's going on.

No what Josh is saying just because you didn't like the movie doesn't make it a bad movie for everyone else and vice versa. :wave

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 08:21 AM
Still. It's bad taste in movies. It's your decision to enjoy it but it's still a bad film. Some people get so upset. It's a film about robots for Christ sake. Grow up. I'm sorry if my opinion has caused some tears.

Kabukiman
06-28-2011, 08:26 AM
Still. It's bad taste in movies. It's your decision to enjoy it but it's still a bad film.

If somebody enjoys it, then it's not "bad" to that person. Like it or not, film is art, and art is subjective.

IrishJedi
06-28-2011, 08:29 AM
I'm not so sure all film is art. A lot of it (especially these days) is almost purely product & commerce. The artistic and creative aspects are almost afterthoughts.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 08:30 AM
A bad film is still a bad film. I took film studies at A-level and in the sense of bad film making, this fall into this category. It is not subjective.

Darth Snoopy
06-28-2011, 08:30 AM
Still. It's bad taste in movies. It's your decision to enjoy it but it's still a bad film.

Again, that's your opinion. We both know that not everyone will like the same movies, books, collectibles, etc.

Just remember that even though you think that people who watch & like Michael Bay's movies have bad taste...other people are thinking the same thing about the movies you watch and like. :peace

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 08:31 AM
I'm not so sure all film is art. A lot of it (especially these days) is almost purely product & commerce. The artistic and creative aspects are almost afterthoughts.

Agreed. Transformers certainly isn't Art.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 08:32 AM
Again, that's your opinion. We both know that not everyone will like the same movies, books, collectibles, etc.

Just remember that even though you think that people who watch & like Michael Bay's movies have bad taste...other people are thinking the same thing about the movies you watch and like. :peace

Fair enough but the films I like are usually regarded as good.

WilltheThrill
06-28-2011, 08:33 AM
If somebody enjoys it, then it's not "bad" to that person. Like it or not, film is art, and art is subjective.

:exactly:

Don't forget a movie is supposed to be first visual appealing; that's why it's called moving pictures. If the action sequences are amazing then this would be considered awesome visually.

slipknotpredator
06-28-2011, 08:34 AM
To bad we are still getting those unnecessary "funny" moments...cant believe we`ll see that humping robot again.

IrishJedi
06-28-2011, 08:52 AM
To bad we are still getting those unnecessary "funny" moments...cant believe we`ll see that humping robot again.

He's now buddies with the family dog. :slap

The Josh
06-28-2011, 08:54 AM
Oh yeah that as well.

I am still going to see it today as it does not cost me anything as long as I see it in 2D (I have to pay a £1.50 charge for 3D) I am taking my Nephew just as I did for the last two. I can always have snooze for two hours if it is as bad as part 2

Even though you get in for free why Dino? You don't like the TF movies and you've beaten the horse to the point that we know whats coming with your POV on these.

Saw it last night. Better than Part 2 (then again, drinking kerosene & pissing on a fire is better than that) but overall just an average mindless Summer popcorn flick.

The Bay Apologists & Transformers fans will enjoy it and circle the wagons, but there's really nothing in this film you haven't seen before. It's not the transcending entry some had hoped.

Like POTC4, it'll make bank, though. And they'll just churn out more of the same.

Oh, and Rosie is indeed god awful. We're talking MST3K bad. Cringe worthy "performance" at times.

Cool robots, though. Except for that stupid little horney R/C truck thing with the Brooklyn accent. Unfortunately he returns along with some of Bay's 13 year old boy humor.

Thats all I'm worried about here. If others feel the same great. If not great.

No what Josh is saying just because you didn't like the movie doesn't make it a bad movie for everyone else and vice versa. :wave

:exactly: Doesn't matter I have that guy on ignore. Not for this but he's been a board troll since he joined.

Darth Snoopy
06-28-2011, 09:36 AM
:exactly: Doesn't matter I have that guy on ignore. Not for this but he's been a board troll since he joined.

Aha...Okey dokey, homie. :D

The Josh
06-28-2011, 09:40 AM
Aha...Okey dokey, homie. :D

:duff :duff

SOLIDSNAKE
06-28-2011, 09:45 AM
I dont care what anyone says for me all 3 movies are amazing.

some of the most epic moments.

when optimus fights the fallen with that amazing soundtrack by steve j. it is just epic.


all i care is about optimus and when he is on screen makes it all worth it.
no critc of person will change my mind about these movies.

after this movie the optimus maquette will be part of my collection.

SOLIDSNAKE
06-28-2011, 09:50 AM
To be honest Ray I reckon if there was a film made about someone doing a 2 hour crap you'd still be pumped. You love everything. Lol

I am pumped about T3 because I know bay has never dissapointed me.
our taste in movies is clearly different.

in my opinion these 3 movies are awsome and fun. me and the wife have a great time watching them.

there some movies you have told me about calling them the best movies and i had a different opinion about them.


you dont like the transformers series I do period.

fuzzylojiks
06-28-2011, 10:49 AM
Not too bad a movie, some nice fight sequences and the usual big booms throughout. The emotion between Sam and his new girl isn't really believable, but at least this time you can differentiate the bots when they are fighting. It was pretty entertaining and I liked the first sequence (except for the CGI prez), and how they made an effort to tie in everything in history. The robots were the real draw and the humans were terrible, some pretty bad attempts at humor throughout. Didn't quite catch as much of the magic as the first one but it's way more coherent than ROTF. It was cool how there was some reference to the Trek speech too.

Not a perfect movie but decent and entertaining.

plasmid303
06-28-2011, 10:55 AM
No movie is worth that.

Good call. I was pretty close to purchasing those tickets. I can't believe I actually entertained the thought.

Regular 3D for me.

Ricardofeitoza
06-28-2011, 11:16 AM
I dont care what anyone says for me all 3 movies are amazing.

some of the most epic moments.

when optimus fights the fallen with that amazing soundtrack by steve j. it is just epic.



all i care is about optimus and when he is on screen makes it all worth it.
no critc of person will change my mind about these movies.


after this movie the optimus maquette will be part of my collection.

That is the same way I feel brother! I cannot wait to watch it and also get my Optimus Maquette EX.

My wife and I love the T1 and T2. I am pretty sure we re gonna love T3.

DinoLast
06-28-2011, 11:18 AM
Even though you get in for free why Dino? You don't like the TF movies and you've beaten the horse to the point that we know whats coming with your POV on these.
.

But Josh! This is a fresh new Donkey. please let me bash it, please :horse :lol

You never know, I might like it if it's good Cheese

Oh I get to see as many films as I like because I have what is called an Unlimited card for my local Cinema

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 11:33 AM
Please don't refer to them as T1 and T2. Thanks. However calling the third movie T3 is totally fine.

The Mike
06-28-2011, 11:35 AM
It has more leg humping robot crap? :slap

Duh. New leg to hump.

Ricardofeitoza
06-28-2011, 11:44 AM
Please don't refer to them as T1 and T2. Thanks. However calling the third movie T3 is totally fine.

I am sorry but I refer to them the way it pleases me and not you or anyone else.

Khev
06-28-2011, 11:46 AM
TF1 and TF2 probably would be better abbreviations considering the others generally refer to the Terminator franchise.

tomandshell
06-28-2011, 11:52 AM
Yeah, there is only one T2 for me--and it wasn't directed by Michael Bay.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 11:56 AM
I am sorry but I refer to them the way it pleases me and not you or anyone else.

Ooooooooooooo

The Josh
06-28-2011, 12:13 PM
But Josh! This is a fresh new Donkey. please let me bash it, please :horse :lol

You never know, I might like it if it's good Cheese

Oh I get to see as many films as I like because I have what is called an Unlimited card for my local Cinema

Well, just remember what you felt like seeing someone hammer the Supes figure and Indy figures. :lol

True ya never know but you haven't been a fan of the first two. :lol

Sithlord1975
06-28-2011, 12:22 PM
My prediction:

The critics will say this is much better than #2, because we all know that was a crapfest that even Bay, LeBeauf, and Fox admitted. So come on people...when the movie makers themselves admit they stumbled and the movie sucked, that says something there lol
So they will say it's better than the 2nd one, maybe as close as the first one, maybe the 3D action is kinda cool, but overall...it's still a Transformers movie by Bay, which means chaotic action scenes where you can't make out what the hell is going on, some cheesy acting and humor, and lots of excessive slo-mo.
So yeah, better then the 2nd one, which will be the welcome relief, but it's still a Transformers movie...meaning it's not THAT epic as some will have you believe.
Bay is just not great of a move director, or an action director. He has his style, but it's not that great in my opinion. Quite annoying on many levels.

This movie will be lumped in the same category for me as Green Lantern. Kinda ok, kinda cool at times, but overall falls flat and Meh, compared to other movies I've seen this year.
But I will admit...I do like SUCKERPUNCH. So there you go. WE all have our tastes in crappier films lol As far as that movie though, I just enjoy it for what it is, and since I like video games, hot babes, and imaginitive visuals and effects, I like it.

And not that I go on what ONE critic has to say, I do believe, when you have 200 reviews, and Rotten Tomotoes gives you the average, as someone said earlier, if it gets 90%...it probably means something and it's a good movie, even if it's not your type of movie. If something overall gets 20%...well odds are its crap, unless you a fanboy, or just love that kind of movie I guess.
So far they have been almost SPOT on all year. Even with Cars 2.

But I did laugh when I read Ebert's review lol Again, not that I care about one review or side with one critic or another. Just made me laugh lol
"Transformers: Dark of the Moon is a visually ugly film with an incoherent plot, wooden characters and inane dialog. It provided me with one of the more unpleasant experiences I've had at the movies."

Sithlord1975
06-28-2011, 12:57 PM
I dont get the Bay bashers...

Mostly because they dont understand that the world can exist with something with a lot of heart and emotion like....i'll use a super obvious movie, Forrest Gump, and a movie like Speed. One film has subtexts, and messages about life, and America, and all that...the other, is a bomb on a bus.

There will be days I would rather watch a movie like There Will Be Blood, or the mentioned, Forrest Gump...and there will be days I want to watch Speed.

Same goes here. I'll go see The Kings Speech, and be moved, and enjoy the film. But I dont want to see that every day. I want to see some ____ blow up for 2 hours. I just want 2 hours of BAYHEM, and crude childish humor because I'm in the mood for that.

Michael Bay makes action movies. He always has, and always will. I love him for doing that. Other directors do genre hopping, which is totally great, but I like that there is someone out there who will almost always deliver what you expect.

Some people hate him for it. But I say, meh....

Some people call him a hack....I say, you're an wrong. He's not a hack. He has a style. We all make fun of it...but he has one. Unlike people like Paul W.S Anderson, or Brett Ratner, who have none.

Yeah, he's a one trick pony....but atleast by being one, you dont have to worry about a really lame in your face political subtext that's in your face. You know he's going to make a movie with 'Splosions with Hot Chicks who are sweaty.

Michael Bay is the Dollar Menu fast food burger. It aint great, but at the right time, it's ____ing satisfying. You know exactly what you're eating. You know it's not great. You know it's not high quailty....but man, at that moment, you're happy...because that awesome tastes good.

Eat that awesome! :lol

That's my Bay rant of the night. :D

People bash Bay not because he makes action movies, but because they suck compared to 90% of his peers action movies.
I really don't understand why we even needed 3 of these movies.

IrishJedi
06-28-2011, 01:17 PM
Devin nails it here, imho:

Transformers: Dark of the Moon is the Michele Bachmann of cinema. Despite all of its staggering flaws it will have its supporters, and its success is part of a trend of accepting less and pretending it’s more. Just because someone is loud doesn’t mean they’re smart and just because a movie has a lot of action doesn’t mean it’s fun. Fun isn’t just calculated in pixels on screen but in actor charisma and character warmth, in stories that surprise and thrill, and in action that is motivated and has a point that is either narrative or emotional.

hunnipot85
06-28-2011, 01:21 PM
I heard Rosie was better than Megan. Excited to see her act!

IrishJedi
06-28-2011, 01:23 PM
I heard Rosie was better than Megan. Excited to see her act!

Whoever told you that is a crazy person. She's horrific.

darthviper107
06-28-2011, 01:36 PM
I heard Rosie was better than Megan. Excited to see her act!

I've read comments on both sides, some saying she is a lot better, and some saying she makes Megan Fox look like an Oscar winning actress.

Ash Housewares
06-28-2011, 01:38 PM
Finally some sensible people ( non Bay fanboys ) have chimed in. Its a shame they made more than one movie because I think the first one is great, especially for Bay. He may have style but not in a good way. He over compensates his lack of coherent story telling with OTT action that will make kiddies scream with joy and leave most other people wondering WTF is going on. He is essentially a little boy trapped in a mans body. Still he makes money and that's what these films are for. They certainly aren't made out of love and respect to the source material.

Kuzeh
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Mindless flicks, big explosions, hot chicks
dumb movies or what not...
I like... BUT
my nitpicks with Bayformers is:

- The DON'T look like Transformers
- Toilet/Teenage humor DOESN'T belong with Transformers
- Transformers is not suppose to be an Army commercial... there's G.I. Joe for that
- Profiling personalities DON'T belong with Transformers
- Jetfire is old and uses a cane??? WTF...

List goes on and on...

Now, the action is there, the effects are awesome...
it just F.Ed up the source material so bad, that it's almost impossible to relate it to
Transformers at all...

IF I see this movie in theaters, it'll be for free...
and hopefully don't need to walk out...

I'm all for a reebot, by a competent director who can at least respect the source material...

fuzzylojiks
06-28-2011, 02:02 PM
I've read comments on both sides, some saying she is a lot better, and some saying she makes Megan Fox look like an Oscar winning actress.

She's not very good imo. They are both bad.

laudel7
06-28-2011, 03:15 PM
Anyone see it in 3D? Worth it?

occulum
06-28-2011, 03:32 PM
... :lol .. its ____ing Transformers people .... :lol

The Josh
06-28-2011, 03:39 PM
Eh if I enjoy it that's my main concern. If others do great and I hope my friends do but if not that's alright. I know what these movies are going in and I've enjoyed them for that.

darthviper107
06-28-2011, 03:56 PM
Anyone see it in 3D? Worth it?

People have been saying the 3D is pretty good. And from seeing the trailers in 3D, it looked pretty fantastic.

laudel7
06-28-2011, 04:01 PM
Thanks :hi5: :D

teemu
06-28-2011, 04:08 PM
going to see lego Bionicles 3 shortly...

DinoLast
06-28-2011, 04:41 PM
The 3D is good
The Storyline is awful
The action with the Transformers is much, much better than the second one, and a lot of scenes look pretty stunning.
The "comedy" is on the same level as Epic Movie and other crap movies like that.
The movie should have been an hour shorter, and they should have cut out most of Shia's story and scenes. I do not care about him, his mum and dad, and the girlfriend whatever her name is.
Doctor McDreamy's character is stupid and the Chinese guy from the Hangover seemed to not have a script because his scenes were just bizarre.
4 out of 10

PapitoMX
06-28-2011, 04:52 PM
The 3D is good
The Storyline is awful
The action with the Transformers is much, much better than the second one, and a lot of scenes look pretty stunning.
The "comedy" is on the same level as Epic Movie and other crap movies like that.
The movie should have been an hour shorter, and they should have cut out most of Shia's story and scenes. I do not care about him, his mum and dad, and the girlfriend whatever her name is.
Doctor McDreamy's character is stupid and the Chinese guy from the Hangover seemed to not have a script because his scenes were just bizarre.
4 out of 10


Sooooooo you're saying that the movie was great!! Yes!!!!!! Can't wait until I see it in an hour

KitFisto
06-28-2011, 05:42 PM
Wow Dino, after your glowing reviews and love of the series so far I really expected you to love this one too.

DinoLast
06-28-2011, 05:45 PM
Wow Dino, after your glowing reviews and love of the series so far I really expected you to love this one too.

But look what I said about the Action scenes.
I thought that is all people wanted from this film anyway?

ironwez20
06-28-2011, 05:58 PM
I've heard that megatron still goes out like a punk in this one. What the hell happened to the main villian being more menacing than the hero. i hear optimus is very brutal at the end. I hate when they make the main hero unbeatable. Seriously i thought megatron was stronger.

karamazov80
06-28-2011, 06:04 PM
RottenTomatoes has 100 reviews at this point, and 35 of them view Transformers positively. For what that's worth. Still time for that rating to change slightly, but 100 is a pretty decent sample size, so I wouldn't expect it to change too drastically.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_dark_of_the_moon/

and here's what they consider a "positive" review:

It's a momentous achievement and it will make untold amounts of money and you should see it even though it's hateful and empty and preaches the worst kind of reactionary violence without even really meaning it.

:lol

SOLIDSNAKE
06-28-2011, 06:39 PM
Going to the midnite show and I am so exited.
I cant belive the wait is over.

optimus prime FTW.

I will have a video review tomorrow.

The Mike
06-28-2011, 06:46 PM
I've read comments on both sides, some saying she is a lot better, and some saying she makes Megan Fox look like an Oscar winning actress.

Judging by the featurette that they released for her, I don't think she should be able to call herself an actress. Megan Fox was eye candy, plain and simple, she was treated as such and being replaced by a Victoria's Secret model whom had never acted before for a huge summer tentpole is just Michael Bay's way of showing to her the place in the world she had.

I've heard from even the negative reviews that the 3D was good, so I'm looking forward to that since the last few 3D outings including GL were just okay. Transformers 1 I went to the Midnight showing Transformers:ROTF I went at Midnight. This one I'm waiting until Saturday, I need the closure to the series since I've seen the others but I'm in no real rush.


On a sidenote, interesting that the title of this thread was never changed by a Mod.

Khev
06-28-2011, 07:36 PM
On a sidenote, interesting that the title of this thread was never changed by a Mod.

Meh.... :lol

tomandshell
06-28-2011, 07:39 PM
I never got around to it.

ironwez20
06-28-2011, 07:45 PM
Your a mod too ? I thought darklord dave was the only mod here. but then again I cant really tell who's a mod here lol.

karamazov80
06-28-2011, 07:49 PM
Your a mod too ? I thought darklord dave was the only mod here. but then again I cant really tell who's a mod here lol.
Click the root link for a forum section and the names of the mods for that section can be viewed on the lower right-hand corner of the screen.

tomandshell
06-28-2011, 07:52 PM
Your a mod too ? I thought darklord dave was the only mod here. but then again I cant really tell who's a mod here lol.

The older and busier my kids get, the harder it is to keep up with the site. But I banned a spammer just the other day!

teemu
06-28-2011, 08:36 PM
The 3D is good
The Storyline is awfulThe action with the Transformers is much, much better than the second one, and a lot of scenes look pretty stunning.
The "comedy" is on the same level as Epic Movie and other crap movies like that.
The movie should have been an hour shorter, and they should have cut out most of Shia's story and scenes. I do not care about him, his mum and dad, and the girlfriend whatever her name is.
Doctor McDreamy's character is stupid and the Chinese guy from the Hangover seemed to not have a script because his scenes were just bizarre.
4 out of 10

this about sums it up for me...but the 3-D was more distracting than good...the humor in the movie is outright stupid! The parents are the worse... The movie really was not much different than the first two films....while I did enjoy the first one.....Mindless isn't the word for these last two films

Nuka Cola Kidd
06-28-2011, 09:31 PM
THIS movie is incredible. Wow all I can say is wow.

I thought Patrick Demsey gave a great performance, and boy oh boy did Bay make the right decision by canning Fox and picking up Rosie (her airbag lip doesn't get in the way either surprisingly, and she is much much better of an actress the Megan Fox). I loved the humor, the story, Everything else was spot on. . . .

Except . . .

WHY THE HELL DID THEY HAVE TO KILL IRONHIDE DAMMIT!

oh, and the movie could have done without John Malkovich and Ken Jeong.

and for that it looses a half a point.

9.5/10 Amazing!

Sachiel
06-28-2011, 09:36 PM
I'll give Michael Bay credit... he knows how to rattle people's brains.

http://www.zuljinraynor.com/bender_fast.gif

Mightytrex
06-28-2011, 09:38 PM
I will say DOTM is the best out of the three. A ____ tone better than the second. The 3D is very well done and the action scenes are amazing. My only complaint is that they focused more on the soliders war againts the decepticons than the autobots war against them, it felt like Battle LA at times. Also more screentime for Shockwave, Megatron and a few others. Overall I really enjoyed this movie 8/10 :peace

Lar'ja Thwei
06-28-2011, 10:04 PM
THIS movie is incredible. Wow all I can say is wow.

I thought Patrick Demsey gave a great performance, and boy oh boy did Bay make the right decision by canning Fox and picking up Rosie (her airbag lip doesn't get in the way either surprisingly, and she is much much better of an actress the Megan Fox). I loved the humor, the story, Everything else was spot on. . . .

Except . . .

WHY THE HELL DID THEY HAVE TO KILL IRONHIDE DAMMIT!

oh, and the movie could have done without John Malkovich and Ken Jeong.

and for that it looses a half a point.

9.5/10 Amazing!John Malkovich is in it?! Awesome!

Natrix
06-28-2011, 10:08 PM
Maybe a 5/6 out of 10, need to see it again after it comes out on video to see if that score changes.

mr.fan
06-28-2011, 10:09 PM
what an epic movie, EASILY the best out of the three. Saw it in 3d on imax at the 9 pm showing... The action sequences set a new standard, just simply mind blowing.

darthviper107
06-28-2011, 10:10 PM
Just got back--it's better than the second. The humor isn't as trashy and there is some stuff that's actually funny. Luckily there's no retard twins around.

The action is really good, but I still think the first is the best. The main difference is that in each fight in the first, there's always something that's really amazing and 'setup' whereas the second and third just have fighting. There's nothing in these that are like, Hey, these are two giant amazing transforming robots fighting for a reason.

There were a lot of extra characters that weren't necessary. Kim Jong wasn't needed, or John Malkovich. They could have cut those parts entirely or cast them with someone cheaper and it wouldn't have mattered.

The girl isn't really necessary either. And as far as her acting goes, there's really nothing to judge, she just 'exists' so there's no way of saying whether she's worse or better. Although she doesn't act as much of a slut as Fox.

Anyways, still enjoyed it. The 3D was good, didn't hurt my brain. But I will note that the previews and commercials that were before it had 3D issues--like it was clear that they were post-processed 3D rather than native 3D. It was just not right and was hard to look at compared to Transformers, where the 3D wasn't too in your face and easy to see stuff going on even when there was a lot of action.

PapitoMX
06-28-2011, 10:14 PM
Awesome flick. It's everything I can expect from a Transformers movie. A bit long, yes but I'll take that. MB did an amazing job with this movie. Epic Action that only MB can do.

greygoose
06-28-2011, 10:41 PM
Having seen DOTM in IMAX 3D I can safely give this film a 9/10, it was incredible. This is the film future action movies will have to try and surpass.

:clap

greygoose
06-28-2011, 10:42 PM
John Malkovich is in it?! Awesome!

He's great in it.

The Chaver
06-28-2011, 10:51 PM
Just saw Transformers DOTM...

It sucked for the most part...

The first was the best...

Glad its all over..

Now they can reboot it and try to give us a more serious coherent Transformers film.

SOLIDSNAKE
06-29-2011, 12:20 AM
Just came back from the midnight show.
AMAZING !! the best of all 3 movies.
The 3D was jaw dropping.

10/10 For me.

optimus prime steels the show.
wow what a ride that was.

best movie of the summer.

I hope bay keeps making more and more.

laudel7
06-29-2011, 12:37 AM
Glad to hear it snake :rock
I cant wait to see this and get my optimus maquette now :banana

fuzzylojiks
06-29-2011, 12:49 AM
Just came back from the midnight show.
AMAZING !! the best of all 3 movies.
The 3D was jaw dropping.

10/10 For me.

optimus prime steels the show.
wow what a ride that was.

best movie of the summer.

I hope bay keeps making more and more.

Wow, 10/10 and better than the first one? So it's a perfect score for you and on par with Avatar (since I know you liked it) and the other best movies ever (not sure of your list but possibly Inception, TDK etc)?

Sachiel
06-29-2011, 01:10 AM
He probably gave 10/10 to all of them. :monkey1

niennumb1
06-29-2011, 01:30 AM
I just got back from seeing the first show 9pm in IMAX 3D. Below is my fairly unbiased review!

Let's just start out first by saying.... if you hated #1 or #2, you have no reason to read on because you'll hate #3, period. This is for the folks who enjoyed these movies "overall".



This might be a bit all over the place, but here it goes...

I LOVE #1. #2 I liked and had to let it grow on me, but it's a fun movie (just so you know where I stand on the others)

Transformers 3....D (minor spoilers, but will try to not be too descriptive so it doesn't ruin it)

When the credits rolled lots of people were clapping. I wasn't, and I'll tell ya why. It clicked after about 3/4 the way through to me that I really got the impression that the children's cartoon seemed to take itself more seriously than this movie did (well and #2 for that matter). I'll just get out of the way that I LOVE COMEDY, I truly do and live for it, but there's a time and place for it depending on the film. I felt like at times in the midst of tragedy happening they manage to slip in a funny part. It doesn't really lighten the mood too much, but more is like a Seth Meyers "REALLY?!" moments. The funny stuff really waters down and diminishes the movie and actually slows its pace down.

In all I felt the movie was longer than it could have been. There wasn't an excellent flow to where you felt there was a good build leading to a big climax, and there wasn't much time for a resolution as it ended rather fast.

The beginning was cool. I really liked the Apollo mission setup and all that tie-in was really interesting to me.

The action scenes are pretty darn amazing. Visually VERY well executed with great detail, and the robots were a bit easier to see during battles, but still chaotic, but not as bad being able to see them. At times the action broken up in the intensity by some humor and maybe that was what made the sequences seem a bit laboring to watch was from how broken it was.

Yes, Prime is probably at his best in this film in terms of bad-a__ness. He had a line that really bugged me a but that didn't feel was in his character. "You'll all die!" Yeah the Decepticons were up to nasty stuff, but I just couldn't picture Optimus saying that. He's more a peacemaker and defender of the Autobots. I've never heard him directly flat out say, in effect, that he'd kill 'em all. He'd at least say something on a positive note, wouldn't he?

Shockwave... His name was said multiple times. He had very few lines. The face somewhat resembled him. That's it. Other than that there was no character development for him. Just a bad guy named Shockwave with mass destructive weaponry. Kinda bummer there.

Soundwave, not much with him either.

The character development element in this movie lacked. I didn't feel as emotionally connected to the bots as I did in the first one. You really get a sense of who they are personally through the first one. The second and this one they just seem more like "Here we are, and we're not saying much of anything with meaning, but we're kicking some butt and that's what you wanna see!"

The music was awesome as usual. Love Steve Jablonsky's score of all 3 films and will definitely be picking this score up.

"The humping robot".... okay he didn't hump anything in this film, but he also certainly wasn't needed. I think they were more a disruption than an asset to the film. Could have done without.

Megan Fox gone.... Didn't miss her at all. The new gal was actually fine. Not very annoying and she didn't make the movie better or worse. At the same time you really didn't get to know her extremely well.

Leonard Nimoy as Sentinel Prime, pretty cool! They didn't go too too deep into him, so I never really felt any sort of emotional attachment to that character, but from what happens later in the film I guess that's not necessary, haha!

Sam's Parents... Okay they have good comedic chemistry together, but I think they've overstayed their welcome in the film. That could have been eliminated.

And why Agent Simmons is still involved I don't know. Some of these characters shoudn't have carried over through 2 more films from the first one. He wasn't horrible, but he just seemed like another comedic relief element.

More comedians in the film.... Ken Jeong and another guy I recognize, but don't recall the name was in it, and that seemed very over the top in terms of comedy element, which goes back to what I was saying earlier in that the cartoon I think treated the property more seriously than the movies have over time. The first film was acceptable, but they REALLY laid the humor on thick in #2 and #3 in my opinion. Like is this all now a big joke or something to you, Mr. Bay?

The 3D... Not necessary. I saw it in IMAX and the sound was great, but the 3D didn't really enhance the experience much, and if I had to see it again it would be without the 3D honestly.

My thoughts on Bay... I like most all him films he's done (minus Pearl Harbor), and I love what he did with the first Transformers film, but I'm ready to see someone else take this property over and maybe give us a really good film that's not only fun, but more engaging and flows better. I'm pretty well done with Michael Bay's interpretation of Transformers and think someone else could do it better moving forward. At least there's no "enemy scrotum" this go around, phew!

Overall I have to say this film was fun to watch, but I don't give it an excitingly high response. It was cool to see the Transformers back again.

I'd give my initial reaction a 2.5 out of 5. I didn't know what I'd be walking in expecting, and I left not entirely knowing how to feel, which generally isn't the best sign, but it was an enthusiastic OK! I wasn't completely disappointed, but I wasn't entirely happy either.

I'm a bit tired of the goofy humor throughout these films that has transpired. The property could be strong on its own and doesn't need a force feed every so often of jokes. Was it dark? Yeah, but certainly wasn't "The Empire Strikes Back" of Transformers. The end was actually pretty abrupt too and boom it's done. Oh ok! Also make sure to stay for 15-20 seconds after the credits start and you'll be treated to an eye-rolling snippet of a humorous scene that would have been better left not seen!

DinoLast
06-29-2011, 01:51 AM
So now people are giving a movie 10 to 9 out of 10 to a movie that dedicates more screen time to the "hilarious comedy" of Shia looking for a job, than it does to Megatron? I don't get it?

fuzzylojiks
06-29-2011, 01:53 AM
I think you're spot on with the action breakup thing niennumb, the action was good when it happened but it didn't flow well for me either. It did feel disjointed and a lot of the humor was forced and most of it just not funny.

I did not feel an emotional attachment with any of the characters either unlike the first movie. They didn't add most of the nostalgic moments or character arcs which made the first one a hit too. I don't think I heard the phrase 'Autobots roll out!' either, that's always brings back memories.

jrice73
06-29-2011, 02:28 AM
Glad to hear it snake :rock
I cant wait to see this and get my optimus maquette now :banana

My friend you WILL LOVE DOTM! And that maquette is the icing on the cake. Just got back from the midnight show of DOTM and this was my second viewing as I caught an advanced screening on Monday. The second time floored me more--the last hour is damn near perfect. I thought DOTM was God damn righteous all the way through. So EPIC and full of Optimus Prime and Autobots just kicking *** and taking names. I will see it again this weekend.

laudel7
06-29-2011, 02:36 AM
My friend you WILL LOVE DOTM! And that maquette is the icing on the cake. Just got back from the midnight show of DOTM and this was my second viewing as I caught an advanced screening on Monday. The second time floored me more--the last hour is damn near perfect. I thought DOTM was God damn righteous all the way through. So EPIC and full of Optimus Prime and Autobots just kicking *** and taking names. I will see it again this weekend.

Happy Days :rock I reckon I will be seeing this a few times to :banana

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 02:49 AM
I don't get it either Dino. Maybe us Brits don't get is as much as they do over the states. As for Ray giving it a 10/10, he'd already decided to give it that before he'd even seen it. Bear in mind he gave Green Lantern a 10/10 aswell. I think the most anyone ever gave that movie on here is an 8/10. He loves his big blockbusters with crap storylines and shocking scripts. As it seems most of the other members of this forum do too.

laudel7
06-29-2011, 02:55 AM
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm75/laudel7/g6736g6419.gif

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 03:11 AM
Certainly did. I'm sorry if I'm baffled by the whole thing but it pisses me off how many followers these steaming pile of turds get.

Deeznutz6
06-29-2011, 03:37 AM
Certainly did. I'm sorry if I'm baffled by the whole thing but it pisses me off how many followers these steaming pile of turds get.

lmao, so true though,

TF2 and GI JOE = steaming pile of turds

nash
06-29-2011, 03:52 AM
Wow, 10/10 and better than the first one? So it's a perfect score for you and on par with Avatar (since I know you liked it) and the other best movies ever (not sure of your list but possibly Inception, TDK etc)?


lol :lol

How anyone can take solidsnake seriously is beyond me. liking the movie is one thing, but saying it is a perfect 10 of 10 is just crazy talk.

laudel7
06-29-2011, 03:53 AM
I can see both views. I just take them for what they are :) can't really comment as I ain't seen it yet.

Glennfett
06-29-2011, 04:38 AM
I just got back from a 3d viewing here in AUS.
the movie is waaaaay better than 2...probably just better than 3.
the action scenes were awesome.
plot.....hmmm...par.
ID give it a 7/10 overall.
I wont post spoilers but i feel Megatron COULD have been in it more and i cant believe they killed So and SO and so and so and so and so...LOL

IronFingaz
06-29-2011, 04:58 AM
The older and busier my kids get, the harder it is to keep up with the site. But I banned a spammer just the other day!

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/10/21/e1fcd619-0dee-4c11-a865-87b117a5de46.jpg

DarthIndy
06-29-2011, 04:58 AM
I liked the first one, hated the second.....this is a return to form.
The last hour is insane, non-stop action.

It was overlong, didn't need the parents or Simmons. Ken Jeong was funny, but not really necessary. The 3D was the best I've experienced since Avatar.

7.5/10 overall, 9/10 for the last hour.

Gruson
06-29-2011, 05:59 AM
I saw it and still too much stupid and useless comedy. It was better than part 2 but not nearly as good as part 1.

I would give them:
Transformers - A-
Transformers 2 - D-
Transformers 3 - C-

Megatron was barely in it and the last battle was all over the place and too long. No drama at all unlike the original.

Khev
06-29-2011, 06:46 AM
I saw it and still too much stupid and useless comedy. It was better than part 2 but not nearly as good as part 1.

I would give them:
Transformers - A-
Transformers 2 - D-
Transformers 3 - C-

Megatron was barely in it and the last battle was all over the place and too long. No drama at all unlike the original.

Damn. You rate the first two flicks almost exactly as I do. Very disappointing to hear that you didn't care for the third. Is all that action with skyscrapers collapsing and Optimus zooming through the city at least worth the price of admission?

Kabukiman
06-29-2011, 06:57 AM
Now they can reboot it and try to give us a more serious coherent Transformers film.

:rock :rock :rock
We totally need a "serious" film from a children's toy franchise about alien robots who transform into vehicles!

I call for a return to form!

YouTube - ‪Dare to be stupid (transfomers)‬‏

Gruson
06-29-2011, 07:15 AM
Damn. You rate the first two flicks almost exactly as I do. Very disappointing to hear that you didn't care for the third. Is all that action with skyscrapers collapsing and Optimus zooming through the city at least worth the price of admission?

Yeah, it's very cool seeing it in 3D and there are some pretty good scenes with Optimus. Some dumb ones too though. I just don't understand why they think they need to add in certain robots for comic relief. Not cool to have an intense moment ruined by a dumb robot joke. The original cartoons are still so much serious than these movies! The final battle just didn't have the intense drama like the original had either. It was choppy and really all over the place.

They should have also had a lot more Transformer character development too. At least you got to know some of the robots in the original movie. This one had zero development and so many unknown Decepticons. It could have been badass to have Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp going around at the end instead of unknown Decepticon ships...more later.

karamazov80
06-29-2011, 07:16 AM
I'm re-posting something I posted in the other TF thread, since it makes more sense here, and maybe we can move those discussions to this thread where it is more on-topic. It is in response to another member saying that we should have low expectations for films of this type, and that most of those who hate on this movie (which he says is the "trendy" thing to do) knew they were gonna hate it before they saw it (something I actually agree with to some extent):

I don't know why I should lower my expectations about anything I'm gonna spend my time watching. There are scores of great comic movies based on characters originally designed for children, and fans don't have to lower their expectations to enjoy them. I think guys like Bryan Singer, Chris Nolan, and Jon Favreau have proven that you can make genuinely good movies of this type. Why should it be any different for GI Joe or Transformers? I'm not gonna let filmmakers off the hook for playing down to their audience. Ultimately, all I want is an enjoyable movie. Personally, CG and explosions aren't enough to provide me with a good movie-going experience. I need believable acting, a story that makes sense and is compelling on its terms, reasonable direction and cinematography, ebbs and flows and rational progressions in the story, the proper balance of conflict and resolution, character arcs, effective and purposeful sub-plots, good comedy when comedy is to be had, and coherency in story and on-screen activity, to name a few. The first two TF films failed in these departments for me, so they weren't enjoyable.

As for it being "trendy to hate" on this franchise, that's not true at this point. The franchise just hasn't been very good. In my observations it is more trendy to defend this film than to hate on it at this point. Just like you say some go in expecting they'll hate it, some (like you) go in expecting it is gonna be awesome and they're gonna love it no matter what. How else can you explain irrational claims that a small handful of early, selective "critical" reviews prove "all the haters" wrong and demonstrate that the critics love this film? That is the definition of selectively taking unrepresentative information that fits into your expectations and hopes for this film and treating that as objective, representative information instead of efforts at self-validation. I agree with you, by the way, that people with low expectations prime themselves to dislike this movie. But you should understand that it works the other way as well as you have demonstrated. :peace

Natrix
06-29-2011, 07:20 AM
Yeah, it's very cool seeing it in 3D and there are some pretty good scenes with Optimus. Some dumb ones too though. I just don't understand why they think they need to add in certain robots for comic relief. Not cool to have an intense moment ruined by a dumb robot joke. The original cartoons are still so much serious than these movies! The final battle just didn't have the intense drama like the original had either. It was choppy and really all over the place.

They should have also had a lot more Transformer character development too. At least you got to know some of the robots in the original movie. This one had zero development and so many unknown Decepticons. It could have been badass to have Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp going around at the end instead of unknown Decepticon ships...more later.

Exactly, at least throw the fans a bone instead of going with yet more generic Decepticon warriors again especially with the lack of any characterization for the new robots anyway.

Natrix
06-29-2011, 07:22 AM
I'm re-posting something I posted in the other TF thread, since it makes more sense here, and maybe we can move those discussions to this thread where it is more on-topic. It is in response to another member saying that we should have low expectations for films of this type, and that most of those who hate on this movie (which he says is the "trendy" thing to do) knew they were gonna hate it before they saw it (something I actually agree with to some extent):

We should have a spoiler thread for this movie since there were so many issues with this movie that could be discussed in depth between the "haters" and "fans".

karamazov80
06-29-2011, 07:25 AM
We should have a spoiler thread for this movie since there were so many issues with this movie that could be discussed in depth between the "haters" and "fans".
I'm not a mod in this section and don't know the convention very well, but I think a "spoiler allowed" thread makes sense once a movie is released for those who have already seen it.

Kabukiman
06-29-2011, 07:37 AM
We should have a spoiler thread for this movie since there were so many issues with this movie that could be discussed in depth between the "haters" and "fans".

Spoiler tags, yo.

darthviper107
06-29-2011, 07:38 AM
Here's one problem I have--how come when they are in robot form they are all dented, scratched, and dirty. But when they go back to vehicle form they are all pristine? I mean, I know it's because they want the cars to look nice. And in some cases they really can't make a vehicle dirtied up--like originally the camaro wasn't out yet so the one they had was extremely expensive and they wouldn't actually be able to damage it.

But still, it makes things kind of weird.

karamazov80
06-29-2011, 07:47 AM
Here's one problem I have--how come when they are in robot form they are all dented, scratched, and dirty.
Possibly an effort to appease the car companies. There is a symbiotic relationship between car companies and these films, as the films serve, in part, as car commercials. It wouldn't do to have the cars looking ugly and beat up all the time.

Natrix
06-29-2011, 07:48 AM
Spoiler tags, yo.

Yeah but those are a pain and every post would have a spoiler tag. :lol

niennumb1
06-29-2011, 08:04 AM
I saw it and still too much stupid and useless comedy. It was better than part 2 but not nearly as good as part 1.

I would give them:
Transformers - A-
Transformers 2 - D-
Transformers 3 - C-

Megatron was barely in it and the last battle was all over the place and too long. No drama at all unlike the original.

I think i'd have to agree with these rankings as well. They really did force some comedic moments a bit too much in this film and it's so weird because it was almost as if Bay thought these films NEEDED comedy, when they really didn't at all. We came to watch some robots duking it out and destroying some cities, not to watch a bunch of humans yabber about things to carry time along and then [insert robot battle in between this].

Optimus was definitely the stand-out though and he kicked some butt. However, as one mentioned, and won't say specifically, how Optimus was able to do a couple of the things he did where he couldn't before in the second or first was a bit off, but Optimus was awesome and definitely stepped it up.

The story was very disjointed though. Didn't really have a flow and they just decided to end it where they felt was right. They must have gotten tired of animating robots by the end because it really did end fairly abruptly.

teemu
06-29-2011, 08:07 AM
Trans-bore-mers 3- Nothing new here

IrishJedi
06-29-2011, 08:54 AM
I saw it and still too much stupid and useless comedy. It was better than part 2 but not nearly as good as part 1.

I would give them:
Transformers - A-
Transformers 2 - D-
Transformers 3 - C-

Megatron was barely in it and the last battle was all over the place and too long. No drama at all unlike the original.

Pretty much right in line with my views as well, except I'd give the first movie a "B".

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 08:55 AM
Pantsformers :The Dark of Bays Mind.

The Chaver
06-29-2011, 08:55 AM
The 3d sucked for me. I don't remember the screen being that dark when I saw Tron, and that movie was dark! It even seemed too dark even without the 3d shades on. I found myself straining my eyes to see what was going on on screen. Can someone tell me if it's suppose to be like that?

I think something was wrong with the projecter.

fuzzylojiks
06-29-2011, 09:11 AM
The 3d sucked for me. I don't remember the screen being that dark when I saw Tron, and that movie was dark! It even seemed too dark even without the 3d shades on. I found myself straining my eyes to see what was going on on screen. Can someone tell me if it's suppose to be like that?

I think something was wrong with the projecter.

Sounds like the projectionist didn't turn set the brightness high enuff.

Kuzeh
06-29-2011, 09:19 AM
Not surprised...
will definitely skip it...
Even though I have the opportunity to watch it for free...
it's like Batman & Robin all over again... :lol

Natrix
06-29-2011, 09:22 AM
The 3d sucked for me. I don't remember the screen being that dark when I saw Tron, and that movie was dark! It even seemed too dark even without the 3d shades on. I found myself straining my eyes to see what was going on on screen. Can someone tell me if it's suppose to be like that?

I think something was wrong with the projecter.

3d was bright and vivid in my theater.

teemu
06-29-2011, 09:22 AM
The 3d sucked for me. I don't remember the screen being that dark when I saw Tron, and that movie was dark! It even seemed too dark even without the 3d shades on. I found myself straining my eyes to see what was going on on screen. Can someone tell me if it's suppose to be like that?

I think something was wrong with the projecter.

Same thing here at my theatre.It made the 3-D suck even more! I was cringing knowing I had to have these on for 2 hrs and 37 minutes..

cr0w
06-29-2011, 09:32 AM
Here's my review. Copy/pasted from another site, so apologies for rough language in places.

Friggin' loved it. The stupid bull____ was toned way down, though there were still some Bay-isms in there every once in a while.

The 3D rivaled Avatar and even surpassed it in most ways, and it was easily the best 3D I've seen since then, if not ever.

Bay shot the film in a much cleaner manner, and you can pretty much see everything there is to see unless you simply don't wear your glasses and cling to the absurd notion that the robot modes are confusing simply to be contrary. The action is crystal clear, no shaky-cam crap, and you never lose track of what's going on.

The robots themselves were brilliantly done, Optimus being a particular highlight because he's a friggin' bad ***, but everyone has their moment to shine.

Visually, it's a marvel. I don't know how else to describe it. It also has a stronger story than most of the critics would lead you to believe, since quite honestly I believe they're so jaded that they can't enjoy anything aside from whatever Terrence Malick crapped onto film anymore. Sure, it's not the best story in the world, but the best thing about it is that there are stakes. People die in massive numbers, on-screen. Graphically. Autobots and Decepticons die, but each has their moment to shine. It's basically the Black Hawk Down of the Transformers franchise.

All in all, I couldn't be happier as a Transformers fan for the past 25 years. I honestly think any other dyed-in-the-wool TF fan will say the same, unless they're too busy looking down their nose to admit to it. To those people and the critics, I say eat a ____. This was the best Transformers-related product in years, if not ever.

mr.fan
06-29-2011, 09:46 AM
Damn. You rate the first two flicks almost exactly as I do. Very disappointing to hear that you didn't care for the third. Is all that action with skyscrapers collapsing and Optimus zooming through the city at least worth the price of admission?

CERTAINLY!!! I don't know where he's coming from, dotm had all kinds of drama, go see it and you'll agree...

darthviper107
06-29-2011, 09:51 AM
Yeah, the 3D is really fantastic, as good as Avatar. If it's dark in your theater, it's the 3D turning down the brightness, so it's not a problem in the movie.

And yeah, this one is way more violent than the other two. The transformers have some stuff that looks like blood when they get injured and you see people getting blasted away on screen (rather than just assuming people die in crushed cars)

niennumb1
06-29-2011, 10:41 AM
I like how they put characters in this film, like Shockwave, and didn't even bother giving any character development into it. We're just supposed to be enamored by the fact they put him in the movie and that's it.

I think it would have done better without all the jokes and broken flow it had.

Also, way too much time spent with the humans and really took away from the heart of the film's character development in the Autobots that should have been the key focus.

Gruson
06-29-2011, 11:22 AM
I like how they put characters in this film, like Shockwave, and didn't even bother giving any character development into it. We're just supposed to be enamored by the fact they put him in the movie and that's it.

I think it would have done better without all the jokes and broken flow it had.

Also, way too much time spent with the humans and really took away from the heart of the film's character development in the Autobots that should have been the key focus.

I agree. It would have been great if Shockwave was the one in charge of the gateway (transporting Cybertron) like in the cartoons. And I still cannot believe they did not use the classic Soundwave voice. I figured with all the complaints people had with it in part 2 they woudl have done it right this time. <sigh>

kanine
06-29-2011, 12:00 PM
Just saw the 9 o clock showing yesterday, too long and could have done without a lot of the human parts. Plot wise, well, another typical Transformers movie, lots of plot holes, but I didn't go see this for the story. Def. better than 2, haven't seen a lot of 3D movies, but it stood out pretty good. I'll give it a 6/10.

Shockwave looked badass, and completely useless.

Action was pretty good, but your usual Bay stuff, lots of chasing and running around, explosions and cars flying, and lots of gun shooting, but didn't really have any good stand out robot fights except the final Ops/SP/Megs battle. Bay doesn't do hand-to-hand combat well, every robot/robot fight ends like in a few seconds.

Unnecessary subplots that made the movie longer than it had to be (Sam's job hunting) Hated the over the top characters again (Sam's boss, Jerry Wang, and Agent Simmons, ugh!)

Lack of character development for any Autobots really, the new bots are introduced and that's it, they're just there. Pretty much the Optimus Prime show again.

WilltheThrill
06-29-2011, 12:03 PM
I think that whoever is complaing about the 3D being sh** in DOTM in comparison to Avatar, it is important to point out that both films used the same equipment and the same crew. As well James Cameron also was quoted as saying that he thought the 3D was fantastic. :lecture

KneelBeforrSmallville
06-29-2011, 12:05 PM
I think it was an Epic movie. Yes it was long, the comedy was overused at times. But All the Transformers movie have that dry perdiod to them. The good thing about this was the first hour is all human cheese, the wierd casting choices just for the laughs.

But the final 2 hours are so fantastic and epic that it makes up for it. The girl was Hot. Shia was husky. The Transformers were BADA$$!!! The Finale battle was an entire movie in itself.

I would of cut out alot of the first hour. We really didnt need to see John Malkovich OR the little guy from the Hangover. But i did laugh at alot of the jokes. But in the end you always want more Robots, more action, more epicness. I think they did a good job. Not a perfect job but so far its the biggest movie of the summer. I enjoyed it.

Natrix
06-29-2011, 12:10 PM
Just saw the 9 o clock showing yesterday, too long and could have done without a lot of the human parts. Plot wise, well, another typical Transformers movie, lots of plot holes, but I didn't go see this for the story. Def. better than 2, haven't seen a lot of 3D movies, but it stood out pretty good. I'll give it a 6/10.

Shockwave looked badass, and completely useless.

Action was pretty good, but your usual Bay stuff, lots of chasing and running around, explosions and cars flying, and lots of gun shooting, but didn't really have any good stand out robot fights except the final Ops/SP/Megs battle. Bay doesn't do hand-to-hand combat well, every robot/robot fight ends like in a few seconds.

Unnecessary subplots that made the movie longer than it had to be (Sam's job hunting) Hated the over the top characters again (Sam's boss, Jerry Wang, and Agent Simmons, ugh!)

Lack of character development for any Autobots really, the new bots are introduced and that's it, they're just there. Pretty much the Optimus Prime show again.

I agree with most of what you said but I wouldn't call the final battle stand out by any means.

plasmid303
06-29-2011, 12:42 PM
Wow, Rolling Stone (reviewer Peter Travers) gives TF3 No stars.

0/4 stars

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/reviews/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-20110629

You won't hear me say that Michael Bay hasn't grown as a filmmaker. Transformers: Dark of the Moon expands to a brain-numbing 154 minutes, leaving the 2007 Transformers (143 minutes) and the 2009 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (149 minutes) in its digital dust. All three films are the cinematic equivalent of a street mugging, only the mugging is over faster. Bay himself is on the record as liking Dark of the Moon better than Revenge of the Fallen, so that should tell you how rank it really is. The only positive thing I can say about this 3D Hasbro theme-park ride disguised as a movie is that it deepened my appreciation for James Cameron and his handling of robots in The Terminator 1 and 2 and his use of 3D in Avatar. Bay is a master bungler, grinding a promising plot into hamburger. What if the robots were discovered by Apollo astronauts on the 1969 moon landing? What if the good Autobots were the only thing separating us humans from world domination by the badass Decepticons? What if Bay had the talent to put flesh and blood on the story hidden in the bowels of Ehrten Kruger's script? He doesn't. Despite having the finest technical talent at his disposal, Bay just flails around like a kid in a 3D candy store watching bots morph into cars and back again and battle each other like dueling refrigerators. Bay believes that you can indeed kick a dead horse forever and the profits his bot epics rake in prove him right. He's laughing (at us) all the way to the bank. In the words of Sentinel Prime (voiced by Leonard "Spock" Nimoy — what!), the risen leader of the Autobots and a daddy dearest figure to the heroic Optimus Prime (Peter Cullen), "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." Got it. In Bay speak, that means the few movie critics left should shut the hell up and let Bay get down to the business of metal porn. It's not happening. Here's what you'll get to see for your overpriced ticket.

See Bay give his hero, Sam Witwicky (Shia LaBeouf, get another job — fast!), a new hottie. Megan Fox, got the boot, reportedly for comparing Bay to Hitler. So in comes British model Rosie Huntington-Whiteley for Bay to drool over. If a director could be jailed for using a camera to have carnal knowledge of an actress, he'd be doing life. The pair couldn't be duller. LaBeouf only lights up when he reunites with Bumblebee — that's his car.

See Bay use his magic on actors. By that I mean his uncanny gift for making talent look talentless. Sam's boss, John Malkovich, appears in orange makeup that makes him look like an Oompa-Loompa, spouting jokes that die on his tongue. It made me heartsick to watch Oscar winner Frances McDormand, as the national director of intelligence, sparring with a hunk of metal. It's a mark of Bay's flair for the obvious that when a scene calls for McDormand to be nervous, he has her bite her nails. And what of Transformers newcomers Patrick Dempsey, as a slimebucket, and Ken Jeong, as an alien groupie? They should fire their agents. Returnees Josh Duhamel and Tyrese Gibson have it worse — Bay treats them like scenery. John Turturro, playing FBI agent Simmons, counters by chewing said scenery until you can't not notice him. I fully expected him to transform into a hambone.

See Bay devote the entire last third of the movie to a bot battle that damn near destroys Chicago. But for every moment that works — a Decepticon named Shockwave wrapping itself around a building like a boa constrictor — comes thudding repetition that made me want to plead for mercy. "Make it stop!" were the words that ran over and over in my head. Transformers: Dark of the Moon — high on any list of the worst blockbusters ever (move over Green Lantern, you've been _____-slapped) — is a movie bereft of wit, wonder, imagination, and any genuine reason for being. Watching it makes you die a little inside. Is this the future of movies? God help us! Michael Bay, you've done it again.

KneelBeforrSmallville
06-29-2011, 12:48 PM
The film is not that bad. And neither was Green Lantern. Why are these mega critics panning these Summer Blockbusters. I should be used to it by now and obviosuly a Transformers movie or a Sci-Fi Epic isnt a film the critics can embrace but panning the movie and saying its horrible is only going to kill the film and hurt the fanbase overall.

As much as i would love a Dark, Compelling real story and plot to be in a film like this, it boils down to is science fiction, you can get away with alot if you can kind of explain it. There robots, not politicians or boxers overcoming adversity. Idk i know i shouldnt let critics get the best of the movie but so many movies have been panned as _____ and there far from flops.

I can say that when the movie was over,Everyone in my theatre applauded in joy.

ink
06-29-2011, 12:51 PM
I can say that when the movie was over,Everyone in my theatre applauded in joy.

maybe it was b/c it was the last one :rotfl

Natrix
06-29-2011, 12:53 PM
I can say that when the movie was over,Everyone in my theatre applauded in joy.

I can say that when the movie was over, NO one in my theater applauded in joy...or at all.

greygoose
06-29-2011, 12:54 PM
Face it guys, DOTM rocked hard!:rock

teemu
06-29-2011, 12:54 PM
Wow, Rolling Stone (reviewer Peter Travers) gives TF3 No stars.

0/4 stars

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/reviews/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-20110629

The more I think about this turd,the more I agree with this review..

KneelBeforrSmallville
06-29-2011, 12:57 PM
maybe it was b/c it was the last one :rotfl

:exactly: :rotfl I knew there was a reason.

I can say that when the movie was over, NO one in my theater applauded in joy...or at all.

I guess my local cinema is special, or easily fascinated by shiny objects :peace

darthviper107
06-29-2011, 01:05 PM
Hah, in my theater people clapped twice, first when that Autobots came back, and then at the end.

But, everyone there were probably between 18 and 25 so that's not surprising.

But really, it's just cool to see and that's all I wanted. Best part of it was the shot of Bumblebee transforming, catching Sam, then transforming back into a car with him inside. That's worth seeing.

Kabukiman
06-29-2011, 01:09 PM
People in my theater have the clap. :monkey2

twistedfreak
06-29-2011, 01:24 PM
I'll be seeing this in just over 3 hours. I'm not expecting anything spectacular from this film. All I care about is seeing the Autobots and the Decepticons duking it out!!! And Optimus kicking some @$$!

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 01:47 PM
The Rock is on TV. :slap

PapitoMX
06-29-2011, 01:50 PM
I'm really trying to understand all the hate for Transformers. Is it perfect? No, but then again I don't expect it to be. The original Cartoons weren't perfect and neither was the original '85 movie. The humor part I understand what ya saying, but then all Michael Bay films had the same type of humor. What is it exactly your looking for in a franchise based off of toys? I grew up with the original cartoons and toys. Never really read the comics or any novels. I really do not believe any other director could give us the same level of action that Michael Bay can. That is what he's good at and the kind of Director he is. I'm glad with what he did. I'm not looking for a drama type of movie. Transformers has always been seeing our favorite Autobots and/or Decepticons battling out. Story? Autobots protecting humans and earth and Decepticons wanting to destroy the autobots and rule. Simple enough.

shiveringmelody
06-29-2011, 02:02 PM
Hah, in my theater people clapped twice, first when that Autobots came back, and then at the end.

But, everyone there were probably between 18 and 25 so that's not surprising.

But really, it's just cool to see and that's all I wanted. Best part of it was the shot of Bumblebee transforming, catching Sam, then transforming back into a car with him inside. That's worth seeing.

Last night I had people from all ages. The older fans actually clapped more and stayed past the credits hoping for an extra scene.

Actually heard grown men sniffling when 'Bee said goodbye to Sam and when it looked like 'Bee was about to be killed in front of Sam.

I enjoyed the 3D more than any other film, including Avatar, but that is me. These are just fun flicks and I hope there is a box set of the trilogy later this year on blu-ray. Been waiting for all 3 to come out before I buy any. Either way I'm getting all 3 by x-mas.

CelticPredator
06-29-2011, 02:28 PM
Best movie of the summer. THIS is what Summer movies should be. I was in awe the entire time.

meanstreak
06-29-2011, 02:31 PM
Seeing this sometime soon... probably tomorrow. Hope it's better than GL or PotC 4.

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 02:32 PM
10/10 best movie ever. The action was so amazing, the main character was so well developed and the effects were truly stunning. This is the 'Aliens' thread right

CelticPredator
06-29-2011, 02:35 PM
Meh. ^

Anyway, easily the best action of the entire year. That's what you were expecting...right? I mean, if you honestly expected a well crafted tale, with incredible developed characters...well...then, I dont know what to do for you.

fuzzylojiks
06-29-2011, 02:38 PM
10/10 best movie ever. The action was so amazing, the main character was so well developed and the effects were truly stunning. This is the 'Aliens' thread right

Well, they are Aliens....:dunno

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 02:44 PM
Meh. ^

Anyway, easily the best action of the entire year. That's what you were expecting...right? I mean, if you honestly expected a well crafted tale, with incredible developed characters...well...then, I dont know what to do for you.

But the action is 45 minutes long in a film that goes on for 2.5 hours. If it was an hour shorter fine but why have pointless scenes of Shia Lebouff job hunting? It's so unneeded and uninteresting. And the humour. It's ____ing weird and doesn't fit.

PapitoMX
06-29-2011, 03:00 PM
But the action is 45 minutes long in a film that goes on for 2.5 hours. If it was an hour shorter fine but why have pointless scenes of Shia Lebouff job hunting? It's so unneeded and uninteresting. And the humour. It's ____ing weird and doesn't fit.

Uninteresting, maybe. But being that the part of the story in these movies is Sam's character and his "growing up" as a person and with the Transformers. Didn't bother me a bit. Like I said before, it was a bit long but I rather have it that way. Just my opinion.

laudel7
06-29-2011, 03:08 PM
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm75/laudel7/haters-1.gif

CelticPredator
06-29-2011, 03:08 PM
^ I like Sam. I give a ____ about him. I wanted him to win at the end.

PapitoMX
06-29-2011, 03:16 PM
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm75/laudel7/haters-1.gif


lol, all you need is the Bee Gees playing in the background.

greygoose
06-29-2011, 03:16 PM
Best movie of the summer. THIS is what Summer movies should be. I was in awe the entire time.


Anyway, easily the best action of the entire year.

Action wise, maybe one of the best ever. The action scenes in IMAX 3D were incredible.

laudel7
06-29-2011, 03:18 PM
:lol :exactly: Im looking forward to seeing this film tomorrow. I liked the first two so odds are i'll love this one

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 03:18 PM
Ppppppfff. Unlike some things, these movies deserve hate. They are ____ing horrendous. Good action doesn't make a good film. These movies are embarrassing to watch. And in terms of best action this summer, there's not a great deal of competition. Bay uses Sams character in this movie as a metaphorical version of himself after the backlash of the second movie and how no one likes him until the end and Bay hopes all is forgiven by hoping people will prefer this movie over ROTF. He has no subtlety whatsoever. And the references to Megan Fox are cheap and I'm not excusing how she acted but what Bay has done is pretty low.

hunnipot85
06-29-2011, 03:27 PM
what were the references to megan?

PapitoMX
06-29-2011, 03:30 PM
Ppppppfff. Unlike some things, these movies deserve hate. They are ____ing horrendous. Good action doesn't make a good film. These movies are embarrassing to watch. And in terms of best action this summer, there's not a great deal of competition. Bay uses Sams character in this movie as a metaphorical version of himself after the backlash of the second movie and how no one likes him until the end and Bay hopes all is forgiven by hoping people will prefer this movie over ROTF. He has no subtlety whatsoever. And the references to Megan Fox are cheap and I'm not excusing how she acted but what Bay has done is pretty low.


I understand you didn't like. It is what it is. Just trying to find out what is being expected from Transformers? Maybe I need to start reading some of these novels then to see what I may have missed story wise. I see these movies no different from the original source which was the 80's cartoon series (which was based on a toy line). As far as I remember, story was never a strong point in the original series. Plus with the exception of the second, how much involvement did MB had on the story and script? I'm pretty sure that the "boy and his first car" was presented to him by Hasbro and Spielberg. Why is any of these concerns are going their way?

CelticPredator
06-29-2011, 03:32 PM
Ppppppfff. Unlike some things, these movies deserve hate. They are ____ing horrendous. Good action doesn't make a good film. These movies are embarrassing to watch. And in terms of best action this summer, there's not a great deal of competition. Bay uses Sams character in this movie as a metaphorical version of himself after the backlash of the second movie and how no one likes him until the end and Bay hopes all is forgiven by hoping people will prefer this movie over ROTF. He has no subtlety whatsoever. And the references to Megan Fox are cheap and I'm not excusing how she acted but what Bay has done is pretty low.

Well, that's cool broski. But I still love these movies, and they're fun as hell...so not sure what you're trying to do here....:dunno

PapitoMX
06-29-2011, 03:32 PM
what were the references to megan?

As far as I remember...

They mention that she dumped him and didn't appreciate him for who he was.


I don't see any cheap shots at all. They had to explain the absence of her character and I feel it was done well.

Kuzeh
06-29-2011, 03:38 PM
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm75/laudel7/haters-1.gif

I really hope we get to see actual Decepticons on screen sometime...
:pray:

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 03:40 PM
Story isn't the problem it's the execution that sucks. The annoying stupid characters. Also the editing is a mess. I've said it so many times I really like the first movie. It was relatively simple and not stuffed with unfunny jokes. If you laugh in these last two movies then i'm sorry but you are a child.

CelticPredator
06-29-2011, 03:44 PM
Well cool then. So...yeah, who the ____ are you talking to?

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 03:46 PM
Children apparently

mr.fan
06-29-2011, 03:49 PM
Ppppppfff. Unlike some things, these movies deserve hate. They are ____ing horrendous. Good action doesn't make a good film. These movies are embarrassing to watch. And in terms of best action this summer, there's not a great deal of competition. Bay uses Sams character in this movie as a metaphorical version of himself after the backlash of the second movie and how no one likes him until the end and Bay hopes all is forgiven by hoping people will prefer this movie over ROTF. He has no subtlety whatsoever. And the references to Megan Fox are cheap and I'm not excusing how she acted but what Bay has done is pretty low.

horrendous in your opinion, not in mine and many others. Anyways keep on hating, it'll still make millions and millions to make your frustration grow larger :D

FQRizzo
06-29-2011, 03:52 PM
Story isn't the problem it's the execution that sucks. The annoying stupid characters. Also the editing is a mess. I've said it so many times I really like the first movie. It was relatively simple and not stuffed with unfunny jokes. If you laugh in these last two movies then i'm sorry but you are a child.

You're just a big ball of hate. :lol

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 03:56 PM
At least I know the difference between a good film and a steaming pile of AIDs.

carbo-fation
06-29-2011, 03:57 PM
Then why did you go see it?!?! :lol

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 04:06 PM
Because I was dragged to it. My other half didn't learn from the second film. Not a total loss as she paid. Spent about 15 pounds on petrol though :(. Think i'm done talking about it now. I just hope someone like J J Abrams reboots it and gives us a transfomers movie without all the juvenile crap.

Sachiel
06-29-2011, 04:13 PM
Don't you understand? You have to turn off your brain to really enjoy these kind of films. REALLY turn off your brain. You have to practically become a vegetable (well, actually a McDonald's hamburger).

Also,
http://www.bamkapow.com/bk_images/2009/07/16/michael-bay-awesome.jpg

DinoLast
06-29-2011, 04:15 PM
Meh. ^

Anyway, easily the best action of the entire year. That's what you were expecting...right? I mean, if you honestly expected a well crafted tale, with incredible developed characters...well...then, I dont know what to do for you.

Well I can honestly say there was none of that, so I guess it must have been great then?

ironwez20
06-29-2011, 04:17 PM
My only beef with these films is megatron going from a all powerful evil leader from the first, to being a little punk who gets beat up so easily. I mean yea optimus is the hero but why tarnish megatron's character like that. Now I havent seen the 3rd movie yet but from what I heard megatron is no better in this movie either. Thats the only thing I hate about these movie's.
I dont know much about megatron since I didnt grow up with transformer's but i know enough to know that he could put up a fight and was the only decepticon to take on optimus.

Calcifer
06-29-2011, 04:18 PM
Seen it tonight ..wow! ..the first half was such a drag and then when we finally got some action it went on for ages and that actually became boring, also there were some really stupid scenes in there that made no sense and a some really pointless characters, i'd rate it better then 2, but still pretty awful IMO.

mr.fan
06-29-2011, 04:26 PM
At least I know the difference between a good film and a steaming pile of AIDs.

yea why did you go see it anyway? Wasn't 1 and 2 enough for you or do you just enjoy being mad?

Ra88
06-29-2011, 04:31 PM
Saw it today. Had low expectations, and I still felt disappointed. This could have so easily been a good movie. It's not a total cluster____ writeoff like ROTF was. It only needed a bit of work to really shine. But indeed, Bay was Bay.

Oh, and the robot screentime is nowhere near what people are saying. It's maybe a bit more then ROTF, if I were to guess, with the character moments between them and the added lines standing out. But it literally felt like half of their scenes was literally cut out of the movie.

There were some things I really enjoyed, but the rest was either incredibly meh or pissed me off. I'm starting to think that TF1 was just a fluke on Bay's behalf, and I am really glad that the twat is finally gone from the franchise.

Meh. ^

Anyway, easily the best action of the entire year. That's what you were expecting...right? I mean, if you honestly expected a well crafted tale, with incredible developed characters...well...then, I dont know what to do for you.

I was expecting good action and it still felt like a disappointment. The setup for the Chicago battles especially were rather meh. The best bit was with the stand off though, and I like how BRUTAL the final battle between Sentinel and Optimus was. Megatron's execution was lame though, and Optimus executing Sentinel in cold blood...Urgh. They could have handled that so much better, the dude even throws out a desperate "NO!". Soundwave did exactly the same with Q/Wheeljack, but here we're supposed to cheer for OP, despite Optimus being just as cold and Sentinel just as scared for his life?

PapitoMX
06-29-2011, 04:33 PM
My only beef with these films is megatron going from a all powerful evil leader from the first, to being a little punk who gets beat up so easily. I mean yea optimus is the hero but why tarnish megatron's character like that. Now I havent seen the 3rd movie yet but from what I heard megatron is no better in this movie either. Thats the only thing I hate about these movie's.
I dont know much about megatron since I didnt grow up with transformer's but i know enough to know that he could put up a fight and was the only decepticon to take on optimus.


?? I remember Megatron taking on Optimus. But he always had to cheat and when his plan didn't go his way, he will always retreat. That was his most memorable line in the series.. "Decepticons, retreat"

Know I must admit Megatron really held his own in the original animated movie but only to a point. When Optimus starting making a comeback, Megatron resorted into cheating once again by begging for his life. Then Hot Rod came out of nowhere and killed Optimus.

And that's another thing. How the hell did Optimus died from getting stabbed and shot from Megatron, but Ultra Magnus gets blown to bits by Galvatron and comes back to life with some Wrecker's ****? They should of taken Optimus to the planet of junk, shoot some skeet on him and bring him back.......sorry, it just hit me.

IrishJedi
06-29-2011, 04:34 PM
Yeah, Optimus is kind of a douche in this.

Ash Housewares
06-29-2011, 04:36 PM
yea why did you go see it anyway? Wasn't 1 and 2 enough for you or do you just enjoy being mad?

Obviously didn't read my posts properly.

Ra88
06-29-2011, 04:38 PM
My only beef with these films is megatron going from a all powerful evil leader from the first, to being a little punk who gets beat up so easily. I mean yea optimus is the hero but why tarnish megatron's character like that. Now I havent seen the 3rd movie yet but from what I heard megatron is no better in this movie either. Thats the only thing I hate about these movie's.
I dont know much about megatron since I didnt grow up with transformer's but i know enough to know that he could put up a fight and was the only decepticon to take on optimus.

Megatron? Easily worse then in ROTF.

Complete waste. He looked and acted like a brain damaged hobo. Didn't really do much, with his only shining moments being when he destroys the Lincoln statue and sits in it's seat, and then backstabs Sentinel near the end. For the rest, he just fed the Protoforms and grumbled a bit.

Sachiel
06-29-2011, 04:41 PM
Yeah, Optimus is kind of a douche in this.

That's what getting killed and being brought back to life will do to you...

beeshaw
06-29-2011, 05:20 PM
That's what getting killed and being brought back to life will do to you...
:exactly: Just ask Buffy. She wasn't too happy about being pulled out of heaven neither! :lol

batfan08
06-29-2011, 05:43 PM
The film was better than RotF, not the original though. Overall, the action was good, and that was about it. My peeves:
1.The story was a downer, even for a Transformers movie.
2.The stupid, inspirational rock music that played every time Sam or Carly was on Screen.
3.The fact that Rosie Whitely didn't have sluttier clothes, it was almost like Bay was saying "Look! See! I can respect women, too!" Whatever you say, but when she doesn't do much in the acting department, she should certainly make up for it in other departments.;)

Josette
06-29-2011, 05:48 PM
There were some things I really enjoyed, but the rest was either incredibly meh or pissed me off. I'm starting to think that TF1 was just a fluke on Bay's behalf, and I am really glad that the twat is finally gone from the franchise.

I think TF1 benefited from Spielberg's influence, especially the parts with Bumblebee and Sam.

Bay has just never really seemed to care to make the robots individuals, or characters in their own right. Most of them are there for explosions or for fodder.

kanine
06-29-2011, 06:00 PM
I remember the first one Optimus was just a punching bag for Megs, now he's so overpowered. This movie felt bascially like Optimus vs. the entire army of Decepticons.

kanine
06-29-2011, 06:06 PM
The action was good, but nothing spectacular, where were all the big robot on robot battles? When they did come, it lasted like a few seconds. Rest was just pretty much the humans running around as stuff falls and explode behind them, plus the whole building tipping over scene dragged on.

I wanted to see some bot on bot action, all I saw was lots of running and screaming and cars flying.

Gruson
06-29-2011, 06:10 PM
I think TF1 benefited from Spielberg's influence, especially the parts with Bumblebee and Sam.

Bay has just never really seemed to care to make the robots individuals, or characters in their own right. Most of them are there for explosions or for fodder.

Yeah, I agree. I read an article a while back that said Bay was restricted with TF1 but had full control of part 2...you can tell.

Shame because part 1 was the only movie with real emotion and drama so far.

The Mike
06-29-2011, 06:56 PM
Wow. The range of critiques on this is amazing, from 0/10 to 5/10 to some even saying 10/10 best movie evar! :lol

Polarizing to say the least.

IrishJedi
06-29-2011, 08:14 PM
Wow. The range of critiques on this is amazing, from 0/10 to 5/10 to some even saying 10/10 best movie evar! :lol

Polarizing to say the least.

That's why it's easier to be in the rational middle. 5/10.

The Josh
06-29-2011, 08:15 PM
Just got out and on my way home. Full thoughts then as I know some of you will be dying for them. :lol

Movie was flipping awesome! Damn!! :rock

The Chaver
06-29-2011, 09:14 PM
And for the record. I would just like to say that what I saw at the theaters was not a Transformers movie. It was a Shia labeouf comedy, with transfomers in it.

batfan08
06-29-2011, 09:18 PM
As for Optimus being overpowered, hell yes. I actually felt bad for the Decepticons, and they had the bigger army! Optimus went genocidal on them, needless to say, it was pretty cool seing him dishing out punishment.

BOBAFATTY
06-29-2011, 09:50 PM
This movie was god awe full.

BOBAFATTY
06-29-2011, 09:51 PM
And for the record. I would just like to say that what I saw at the theaters was not a Transformers movie. It was a Shia labeouf comedy, with transfomers in it.
:exactly::goodpost:

The Josh
06-29-2011, 10:08 PM
Alright, I had an absolute blast with this movie. I get that some just won't like it no matter what and thats cool but mattesr not to me honestly.

The opening sequence of the movie with the battle for Cybertron was pretty cool. You don't get much of it but having played the game it was neat to see even just a small bit of that on screen. Now, you get into the space race and why we did made the race for the Moon. I personally really enjoyed that part even though it was fairly short. These two bits got me into the movie pretty darn fast.

Seeing, Sam trying to get a job I thought was fine within the movie and glad they had this in. Its a part of the characters development as he grows and its a part of life. I like many know the struggles of being in job interviews and that for me hit home with trying to struggle finding a job right now even more so. Another part of it that really hit home for me was him feeling like he was important but wanting something again that made him feel that way. Again, for me I loved being a teacher and coach. It's a job I do think is important and made me feel that way and I want that again. A job that makes me feel like I'm truly contributing something to society and some of the jobs I've applied for won't give me that. His relationship with his parents was another complaint. I like that relationship to be honest because it reminds me of me and my folks. Plus they're in it for a grand total of like 3 mins so how can it be that bad.

Seeing Megatron all beat up was cool. Dude is still ____ed up from Transformers 2 and I'm glad they kept that part in this one. Before that you get a cool mini battle sequence when you see Shockwave for the first time and that was cool. Then you get the following assassinations which we're cool and helped along with the story line. Ken Jeong getting tossed out the window was awesome but his character could have been filled by someone else and the same for Malcovich.

All along the way you're getting the Autobots finding out that they gotta go back to the Moon. Since they have a spaceship there and Sentinel Prime and the additional pieces for the space bridge.They bring him back and you're thinking alright another awesome autobot to help kick Decepticon ***. Of course Sam with the help of Agent Simmons figure out that oh ____ they're being played like a fiddle. We then get a shocker when Sentinel Prime flips sides and kills Ironhide (my jaw dropped).

We then get the Autobots leaving Earth because the US Govt was being the US Govt and not thinking. Their shuttle blowing up totally made me think of watching the Challenger Explosion. This starts the final battle sequence of the movie which got me personally sitting in the front of my seat.

Sam going after his Carly (who I thought the Rosie Huntington-Whiteley did a decent job to be totally honest) get everything going. You find out of course the Autobots aren't dead and they're ready to kick ***. Which of course is a problem because Megatron, Sentinel, and Shockwave making it a real pain in the ***. I mean they want to bring Cybertron here to make us be their slaves.

You get Prime taking out Shockwaves helper as he's taking out a building. Then you get where you think Bumblebee is gonna get taken out but kills Soundwave I think. Soundwave gets his *** whooped and killed which was awesome. Sam kills Starscream again more awesomeness to the final battle.

Finally, you Optimus and Sentinel fighting. While they're fighting Sam and Patrick Dempsy's character (who is a total douche bag but played well) fight over one of the beacons. I'm thinking while Prime and Sentinel fight that this might not end well for Optimus. He gets beat up really bad losing an arm, but just when you think he's gonna die (again) Megatron steps in. He had just gotten played like a _____ and takes out Sentinel for the most part. Then Optimus kills Megatron and shows even with one arm he's a badass Autobot then for good measure takes out Sentinel.

Thats a lot of words and retells the movie kind of. :lol Maybe how I feel doesn't come across well in that. The comedy with the little robots worked for me for the most part, the storyline flowed nicely, the action kept me in it. I walked and I was pumped and ready for more Transformers. As I said if others don't like it thats cool. Thats your right but I ain't joining ya in this one.

The Josh
06-29-2011, 10:09 PM
As for Optimus being overpowered, hell yes. I actually felt bad for the Decepticons, and they had the bigger army! Optimus went genocidal on them, needless to say, it was pretty cool seing him dishing out punishment.

Yeah, thats freaking great seeing him do that. :rock

VS1976
06-29-2011, 10:38 PM
Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon in 3D (9/10)

I have to say this is the best of the trilogy. The first 30 minutes was a little long but the movie picks up very quickly. It did however have a funny scene with that Asian guy from Hangover.

Before watching this movie I was disappointed Megan Fox was not in the final chapter. However after watching it, Rosie Huntington held her own and wow does she look great especially when she gets introduce in the opening sequence. I did not miss Megan Fox at all after watching Rose H. The last hour of the final battle scene was absolutely jaw dropping. Probably the best ever CGI movie I have ever seen especially when it's in 3-D. The cinematics & visual alone easily beats out James Camerons Avatar or LOTR series. There was a scene at the very end that made me almost shed a tear on Bumblebee. Luckily that didn't happen :)

This movie pays a lot of homage to other movies like Dune, Independence Day, Titanic, 2012 and even Star Trek. Great choice on having Leonard Limoy play the part of Sentinel Prime. Even though Michael Bay is not well liked this has to be one of the best movie he has ever made. He sure knows how to do the slow motion 360 pan angles. Love it!

The visual alone is worth the $13. Can I say this will be the biggest box office hit for this summer? I alone will probably watch it again and will definitely buy it on Blu-Ray 3D when it comes out.

I doubt this will be the last Transformers movie made and I look forward to seeing the next installment of this franchise. :)

darthviper107
06-29-2011, 11:37 PM
Yeah, thats freaking great seeing him do that. :rock

Except for the 15 minutes where he was out of commission due to getting stuck in some cables--that was stupid.


Also, did I miss how Bumblebee got captured? He just saved Sam and the military guy and then they're at the bridge and suddenly he's captured.

The Josh
06-29-2011, 11:41 PM
Except for the 15 minutes where he was out of commission due to getting stuck in some cables--that was stupid.


Also, did I miss how Bumblebee got captured? He just saved Sam and the military guy and then they're at the bridge and suddenly he's captured.

Yeah, that was pretty dumb. :slap

I wondered the same thing. I'm going to assume as he's headed to regroup they get caught somehow.

CelticPredator
06-30-2011, 12:38 AM
Wow. The range of critiques on this is amazing, from 0/10 to 5/10 to some even saying 10/10 best movie evar! :lol

Polarizing to say the least.

No it's not. People should know what to expect from these things by now.

isculpt
06-30-2011, 12:59 AM
7/10, awesome but felt convoluted at times. Optimus is my favorite transformer ever, if you are a fan of him, this is THEE movie for you.

CelticPredator
06-30-2011, 01:00 AM
He was awesome. I loved how he gave up with the peace ____. That's a badass right there.

DinoLast
06-30-2011, 01:43 AM
No it's not. People should know what to expect from these things by now.

Yeah expect a bad film and you won't be disappointed.

DinoLast
06-30-2011, 01:53 AM
I am sorry but this whole you should expect it to be bad is bollocks.
The first one was not that bad, it was actually good. The second one was awful, but Bay promised us that this time it would be different and he had learnt from his mistakes. So we go back for a third instalment only to find more slapstick comedy, and all the annoying human characters are back, but not only that, Bay throws in even more annoying characters like Ken Jeong and Malkovich.
honestly most of the movie was a bad comedy on par with Police Academy mission to Moscow.

Rock83
06-30-2011, 05:46 AM
What i expect from TF3 is "Bayformers",do i even need to explain what i mean by that?

Kabukiman
06-30-2011, 06:03 AM
:lol @ film snobs who went to see this and came here to _____ about it.

BadMoon
06-30-2011, 06:11 AM
:lol @ film snobs who went to see this and came here to _____ about it.

Pretty much. Most already know the people that would rate the movie a 10 even before they saw the film. Naturally they come in and rate the movie like it's the Casablanca. :rotfl

Then you have the other people that went to go see it knowing what to expect and then _____ about it.

Lump me into the third category. I will wait for it to come ondemand, rent it, and enjoy it. :lol

Ash Housewares
06-30-2011, 06:11 AM
:lol at people who have no Brain or taste in films.

Nuka Cola Kidd
06-30-2011, 06:15 AM
:lol at people who have no Brain or taste in films.

Stop laughing at your self, and grow a pair then and realize you opinion isn't the be all, end all truth. . . and clearly you liked this film much more then your leading on since you insist on visiting this thread so often.

BadMoon
06-30-2011, 06:17 AM
:lol at people who have no Brain or taste in films.

:lol at people that have an Evil Dead avatar and question others opinions on movies.

Kabukiman
06-30-2011, 06:29 AM
:lol at people who have no Brain or taste in films.

:lol @ People whose last 31 of 32 posts were about a movie they didn't like.

If you really want to wave your film student ____ around with peers, sign up at an art film message board and go toe to toe with them. Trying to act like the alpha-film critic in a thread about a summer "blockbuster" action flick based on a toy line about robot aliens who transform into trucks is unimpressive to say the least.

Ash Housewares
06-30-2011, 06:31 AM
:lol at people that have an Evil Dead avatar and question others opinions on movies.

At least evil dead is self aware of the fact its trash.

Ash Housewares
06-30-2011, 06:34 AM
:lol at someone who's sad enough to look through my recent posts specifically to attempt to prove a point.

Ash Housewares
06-30-2011, 06:39 AM
I do like comin back to this thread. It's funny to me how het up everyone is getting. Work is really boring today so I need something to make the day go quicker

Nuka Cola Kidd
06-30-2011, 07:00 AM
I do like comin back to this thread. It's funny to me how het up everyone is getting.

I think you just like being a child. Are you a child? Cause lets face this is like CelticP annoying, and even he's been acting more mature then you lately.

:lol @ People whose last 31 of 32 posts were about a movie they didn't like.

If you really want to wave your film student ____ around with peers, sign up at an art film message board and go toe to toe with them. Trying to act like the alpha-film critic in a thread about a summer "blockbuster" action flick based on a toy line about robot aliens who transform into trucks is unimpressive to say the least.

Oh, That explains the entitlement he thinks he has. Good to know that when in conversation with this guy that is what all his responses can be chalked up to.

IrishJedi
06-30-2011, 07:03 AM
I'm not defending anyone's behavior in this thread, but I will point out that it's far from a stretch to claim that the original EVIL DEAD movies are much better made films than these 2 1/2 hour commercials from Bay.

Ash Housewares
06-30-2011, 07:21 AM
I think you just like being a child. Are you a child? Cause lets face this is like CelticP annoying, and even he's been acting more mature then you lately.



Oh, That explains the entitlement he thinks he has. Good to know that when in conversation with this guy that is what all his responses can be chalked up to.

The Entitlement I KNOW I have.

Adoptedscot
06-30-2011, 07:24 AM
Play nice please kiddies..:stake

I personally am looking forward to seeing this, will have to wait for the DVD but will see it eventually :)
x :wave

Nordle
06-30-2011, 07:30 AM
Went to the movies premiere and actually enjoyed the movie for the most of the time.
Liked the action in it and liked Rosie Huntington-Whiteley as a replacement for Megan Fox.

For me personally i hoped Sam would have been killed in the movie along with some other regulars.
And for being so much plots in the movie,i hope there will be a fourth and final movie.
But then directed by another director,making it darker and more focused on the war of Autobots vs. Decepticons.
For me a final movie exists of the Autobots vs. Decepticons battle and returning to Cybertron somehow.

As someone stated earlier in this topic the movie goes one too much about,humans vs.Decepticons with the help of the Autobots.

Adoptedscot
06-30-2011, 07:43 AM
Went to the movies premiere and actually enjoyed the movie for the most of the time.
Liked the action in it and liked Rosie Huntington-Whiteley as a replacement for Megan Fox.

For me personally i hoped Sam would have been killed in the movie along with some other regulars.
And for being so much plots in the movie,i hope there will be a fourth and final movie.
But then directed by another director,making it darker and more focused on the war of Autobots vs. Decepticons.
For me a final movie exists of the Autobots vs. Decepticons battle and returning to Cybertron somehow.

As someone stated earlier in this topic the movie goes one too much about,humans vs.Decepticons with the help of the Autobots.


So how do they incorporate the new gal? Is she just an alternate Michaela or a completely new gf?, I'm just curious how they worked it.

If someone could please post using the spoiler tag I would appreciate it.
Thanks peeps.
x :peace

Jamesways
06-30-2011, 07:44 AM
I thought it was just ok. The more I think about it, the more I don't care for it.

The 3D was phenominal however, by far, the best use of 3D in a film yet IMO. I really liked the first movie, and actually did defend the second one a bit. But this time, I totally agree with others in that there's waaaay too much lame comedy thrown in and too much from pointless, unfunny characters. I did like the destruction of Chicago, it was nice to see more of a of serious tone amongst the crazy slapstick silliness. Market research shows people love humping robots and toilet humor!

I thought the final fight was great, Optimus was brutal. A bit out of character, but by that time I think he'd had enough. And I'm glad the novelization or early script I read was wrong. If they had gone with that ending, people would have been so outraged.

The end had Megatron asking Optimus for a truce, the Decepticons left, and they all lived happily ever after

About the final battle-
I didn't get how BB and the rest got captured at the end either, they just skipped over that to focus on the humans in the building. And being captured made no sense since both sides were just ripping each other apart. All of a sudden it's "drop the gun, we've got you?" :dunno

I would have liked it so much more if they cut most of the first hour and got rid of the stupid humor. The action and effects were very very impressive though. Especially in 3D. It's a great flick to see crap blowing up.

Natrix
06-30-2011, 07:49 AM
About the final battle-
I didn't get how BB and the rest got captured at the end either, they just skipped over that to focus on the humans in the building. And being captured made no sense since both sides were just ripping each other apart. All of a sudden it's "drop the gun, we've got you?" :dunno



It sounded like the Autobots just surrendered which makes zero sense. The Decepticons taking them as prisoners made zero sense. Soundwave being talked into executing them by a human made zero sense.

Jamesways
06-30-2011, 07:58 AM
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that.

Nordle
06-30-2011, 08:02 AM
@Adoptedscot:
Sam recieves a medal from Obama and then walks into RH-W as she takes a picture of herself in the White House.
From there the ball starts rolling on and they start dating.
So she is a new gf with her own background/story who is more then just a new gf :wink1:

bigsilva77
06-30-2011, 08:04 AM
She was a Great replacement in my opinion!!:banana