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Sachiel
02-15-2009, 01:54 PM
Awesome.

COOL TOY REVIEW Special Report (http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/NecaT2/default.asp)

Voorhees27
02-15-2009, 02:00 PM
http://img18.picoodle.com/img/img18/3/2/15/f_IMG3015m_d6c6643.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/2/15/f_IMG3015m_d6c6643.jpg&srv=img18)

Holy smokes this looks NICE! I wonder what scale these will come in?

Sined
02-15-2009, 02:04 PM
According to the photo's they are some kinda close to 12" (there is a 18" Jason there on one of the pics).
Looks great on these photo's.

Nocturne
02-15-2009, 02:07 PM
Holy ^^^^ those look awesome, as long as they don't have to butcher the face like McFarlane did I'll be bagging every single one of them!


According to the photo's they are some kinda close to 12" (there is a 18" Jason there on one of the pics).
Looks great on these photo's.

That's what I thought, although I went off the fact that they seemed to be the same scale as "Frank the Bunny" from Donnie Darko in the bottom left hand corner

Jaycepticon
02-15-2009, 02:16 PM
just when I got out of the 6" game, I get pulled right back in:D

Nocturne
02-15-2009, 02:22 PM
well you're in luck, they seem to be 12" :lol

here's hoping for a wave 2 with the T-1000

Ahnuld
02-15-2009, 02:22 PM
Really hope the battle damaged arnie comes with a full battle damaged head

Sachiel
02-15-2009, 02:32 PM
They're 2-ups.

Most of the time figures are sculpted this large to get all the details in, then a mold is made which is shrunk down.

Doesn't mean we won't see a 12" or 18" figure of atleast one of these. But I'm betting they'll all be in a 7" line.

Bring on the T-1000 variations!

Balsquat
02-15-2009, 02:36 PM
ohhhh very yesssssss

Nocturne
02-15-2009, 02:37 PM
I'd be so much more willing to buy them if they stayed that size.

Is nice to see an American company still putting out good stuff when compared to their eastern counterparts (especially as they're cheaper :lol)

Sined
02-15-2009, 02:48 PM
They look very interesting.
Especially for the price they wll cost... Hope the final products will be the same quality.
Hope they will be in 1/6 scale & there will be a T-1000 variations later.
And the little John...
And Pescadero Sarah...
And Pescadero Sarah in jacket...
And military Sarah...
And bikers :chew
And Silberman :monkey5

prefused
02-15-2009, 03:00 PM
I'd be so much more willing to buy them if they stayed that size.

Is nice to see an American company still putting out good stuff when compared to their eastern counterparts (especially as they're cheaper :lol)
samesies. i dunno why neca thinks it's 2003 when i'm still buying mcfarlane figures.
i'd rather see more competition in the 1/6 market so HT can't make me poor.

SOLIDSNAKE
02-15-2009, 03:04 PM
http://img18.picoodle.com/img/img18/3/2/15/f_IMG3015m_d6c6643.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/2/15/f_IMG3015m_d6c6643.jpg&srv=img18)

Holy smokes this looks NICE! I wonder what scale these will come in?

WOW !! that looks sick.
I am getting it for sure.

CommanderDude
02-15-2009, 03:06 PM
im guessing those will be 7" ... 12" would be great but maybe they do both sizes

Nocturne
02-15-2009, 03:10 PM
samesies. i dunno why neca thinks it's 2003 when i'm still buying mcfarlane figures.
i'd rather see more competition in the 1/6 market so HT can't make me poor.

You know Hot Toys would make you poor even if there was, you'd just have more to buy instead :lol

Johnny Utah
02-15-2009, 03:27 PM
I want to know if there is a second head with the Steel Mill T-800,and whether there will be a T-1000 wave...since Kyle Windrix sculpted these,hopefully he can shed some light.

-Super Hans-
02-15-2009, 04:32 PM
dont really do 7" anymore, but i will def pick these up :rock:rock:rock

CelticPredator
02-15-2009, 04:35 PM
Those are two-ups. They will be 7 inches. And I dont know about that likness. Something is...off.

Platty
02-15-2009, 04:39 PM
The best news in ages...neca looks to be doing the business these days. Great articulation without taking away from the aesthetics of the figure. Chris Redfield from resident evil 5 a good example of this, as well as these new Termy 2 figs. Brilliant!

The figure with the sunglasses on, no damage and with the shotgun, looks fantastic.

Shai
02-15-2009, 04:42 PM
Like the conan figures ,the proto was breathtaking.....the production piece however, as always will look like crap for a character with human feature...Paint job will be atrocious, mark my words.

CelticPredator
02-15-2009, 05:09 PM
Yep. Pretty much how it always goes.

agonistes86
02-15-2009, 05:47 PM
Like the conan figures ,the proto was breathtaking.....the production piece however, as always will look like crap for a character with human feature...Paint job will be atrocious, mark my words.

I assume so too, but as long as the sculpts remain the same I'll just repaint them.

I hope they'll release the "Cyberdyne headquarter" or the "final battle" version as an 18 incher too, would definitely pick that up. If not, I'll just get their 7" versions.

swo77
02-15-2009, 06:05 PM
Pretty cool...

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/NecaT2/IMG_3011.JPG

scarbrs
02-15-2009, 06:09 PM
Sweet, Can't wait to get them. And Now that Toys R US is selling Neca it might be fun going to stores again.

Eric

uscmhicks
02-15-2009, 07:12 PM
so no 12 inch stuff ?. Could be handy using the endo arms and chests for custom parts.

crazypredator2
02-15-2009, 07:31 PM
when are these coming out ?

MaulFan
02-15-2009, 07:34 PM
Look forward to these. Be nice to have in the collection, SSC never delivered on the BD and there's never been any other nice T2 fully body figures (McFarlane's were pretty poor to me).

Sachiel
02-15-2009, 08:42 PM
http://www.figures.com/databases/action.cgi?setup_file=fignews2.setup&category=actionfigures&topic=155&show_article=568&nl=1

Endo is getting a retool, plus there will be a 12" version of Arnold. Don't know which one.

usswanker
02-15-2009, 08:44 PM
If they are 12" I'll be getting a few of these! They look awesome! :rock

tylerdurden
02-15-2009, 10:05 PM
i dunno why some of u are saying these are crap or off. these (to me, at least) are some of the best arnie likenesses i've ever seen!

the only downside is if they're smaller than 1/6th scale. i'd defintely get the battle-damaged arnie and mini-gun arnie!

c'mon neca, give us 12" or even 18" figures! anything smaller wouldn't be worth it...

CelticPredator
02-15-2009, 10:07 PM
He's got Rob Liefield eyes....

http://kleinletters.com/Blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/xforce10891.jpg

Voorhees27
02-15-2009, 10:15 PM
He's also a $20 toy.

CelticPredator
02-15-2009, 10:30 PM
15 dollar toy. Doesnt matter though.

xenoviper
02-15-2009, 10:41 PM
OMFG!!!!!!
my dream come true!!


---------------

Well after looking at all of them i still find the facial expression is a bit off... their conan was dead on though! But overall this line I must get! damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

MaulFan
02-15-2009, 10:54 PM
plus there will be a 12" version of Arnold. Don't know which one.

Hopefully either the full BD version or the gatling gun version, the shotgun one is covered enough by the SSC figure, but love to have 1 of the other 2 in my 12" T2 lineup. Be nice if they do young John Connor and make a 12" scale of him too.

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 11:01 AM
http://img18.picoodle.com/img/img18/3/2/15/f_IMG3015m_d6c6643.jpg

Just occurred to me, this figure's a let down, he's all beat up like the very end except his face, his face was mashed away in the same scene as his stomach is all exposed.

Nocturne
02-16-2009, 11:20 AM
I checked this yesterday, it is accurate, the chest was torn away after the swat team fight. The arms ripped off in the gear. So this is from in between the gear scene and getting his face mashed with the I-Beam

http://i41.tinypic.com/4jvvxl.jpg

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 11:21 AM
Well, if it's accurrate, then it's dissappointing they didn't do the full BD.

Nocturne
02-16-2009, 11:27 AM
Makes a nice change, there's plenty out there with the full damage. Nothing to say they can't do a swapable head either.

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 11:33 AM
Hope they do a swappable head, that'd be nice.

I haven't ever seen a full bodied piece representing his final damage that looked really nice, this is the first. Sideshow's made 3 nice busts of it, but the full body statues and things I've seen all look kinda so-so.

Nocturne
02-16-2009, 11:37 AM
There was the horizon model kit, and that seemed to get turned into a very cheap looking figure. McFarlane were going to do one until likeness rights put the stop to it
http://www.3demonic.com/images/Terminator01.jpg
(it is inaccurate though as it has both arms)

This is what McFarlane's swapable head T-800 was going to be
http://www.hopeofthefuture.net/data/mcfarlane-t800-a3.jpg
Guy who runs this site is a friend of mine, scanned these from a really old Forbidden Planet catalogue so forgive the quality

seniram6
02-16-2009, 11:55 AM
how did neca get the licensing rights?

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 12:00 PM
how did neca get the licensing rights?

Probably bought them. I've heard stories of McFarlane putting things out back in the day without getting licensing rights, so could be part of their T2 issues. NECA seems to secure full rights to their stuff so there's no issues.

Nocturne
02-16-2009, 12:07 PM
Guess thats why they concentrate so much on Spawn stuff now, no license issues :lol

Sachiel
02-16-2009, 02:18 PM
Figures.com says he WILL have a swappable more damaged head.

:joy

I really hope we see the T-1000.

Though it would make more sense if they came out along side Arnold.

Johnny Utah
02-16-2009, 02:25 PM
They'd be stupid not to do the T-1000...finally the motorcycle version!

a-dev
02-16-2009, 04:14 PM
Oh...my....>>>>ing....god! Apologies for the blasphemy but I do believe NECA have fulfilled my topmost 'wish someone would make' grails with these things. I will definitely, guaranteed, without doubt buy every single one of these in any scale. Those are AWESOME sculpts! And almost every variation of the T-800 terminator from T2 that I've wanted for years and years! Only 2 possible variations seem to be missing - the post-SWAT attack version and the full battle-damage version from the end of T2.

McFarlane have been well and truly trashed by NECA. They didn't milk any of the great licenses they had nearly as much as they should have. 4 figures from T2...one robocop figure!

a-dev
02-16-2009, 04:17 PM
I checked this yesterday, it is accurate, the chest was torn away after the swat team fight. The arms ripped off in the gear. So this is from in between the gear scene and getting his face mashed with the I-Beam

http://i41.tinypic.com/4jvvxl.jpg


You're right its based on the part where he cuts the T-1000 in half with a pipe - his arm was off but his face still only had the SWAT battledamage.

I just can't believe its taken as long as it has for some company to make all these.

-just read the link from a few pages back which states that this version will come with an extra head - the complete battledamaged head. >>>>ing awesome!!

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 04:20 PM
I'm hoping now that NECA picks up a RAMBO license.

a-dev
02-16-2009, 04:35 PM
Sculptwise they got everything dead-on IMO. His build, the sit of the clothes and for the first time his hair is right. McFarlane made his hair too short on top, Sideshow cut it in too tight on his neck at the back, but NECA appear to have got it exactly like arnies hair was in T2. I don't think I can praise these enough.

Sined
02-16-2009, 04:37 PM
+1 about hair.
They are exactly as they was in the movie.

CelticPredator
02-16-2009, 04:39 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the sculpt looks off?

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 04:40 PM
Probably, they all look good to me.

Sined
02-16-2009, 04:41 PM
Sculpt is a little off if we talk about dead-on Arnold likeness, but it's a pretty good representation of the character.
If you know what I mean.

CelticPredator
02-16-2009, 04:41 PM
Like right there....looks like Kurt Russel....IMO.

The other pics are good...so it must be one of those one angle is good, and the rest are bad.

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/NecaT2/IMG_3012.JPG

xenoviper
02-16-2009, 04:43 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the sculpt looks off?

It's not really off... just the stern look is a bit too overly done... maybe a repaint might help ... or just a light sanding of the facial muscles before repaint would help...

The more I look at this set the more I want it!!

Sined
02-16-2009, 04:47 PM
The more I look at this set the more I want it!!
Same here :monkey2

a-dev
02-16-2009, 05:08 PM
I agree, its the stern look - hes a bit too squinty-eyed and I can see where Celtic sees Kurt Russell. Kind of like his Stargate look. However I think it looks more Arnold than kurt, and added to the rest of the sculpt which is as close to perfect as any I've seen, these will be the best fully sculpted terminator figures we've ever seen.

xenoviper
02-16-2009, 05:24 PM
I agree, its the stern look - hes a bit too squinty-eyed and I can see where Celtic sees Kurt Russell. Kind of like his Stargate look. However I think it looks more Arnold than kurt, and added to the rest of the sculpt which is as close to perfect as any I've seen, these will be the best fully sculpted terminator figures we've ever seen.

dito! the overall look is just perfect... form stance body shape etc... anyone know whens the set coming out!?

a-dev
02-16-2009, 05:28 PM
Not soon enough would be the answer. I want these yesterday!

agonistes86
02-16-2009, 05:39 PM
I think more people should read the link posted a few pages back ;) http://www.figures.com/databases/action.cgi?setup_file=fignews2.setup&category=actionfigures&topic=155&show_article=568&nl=1

It says:
"Four different versions of Arnold Schwarzenegger as the unstoppable T-800 will be released, two at a time, in addition to a re-release of NECA's T-800 Endoskeleton action figure with improved tooling and new weapons. The first assortment - TWO Arnold T-800s and an Endoskeleton - are slated for release this May/June, with the remaining two Arnolds and another Endoskeleton to see release later in the year."

CelticPredator
02-16-2009, 05:51 PM
It says not final, so I hope they retool those faces a bit.

xenoviper
02-16-2009, 05:52 PM
Some close ups...
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/Neca/IMG_3421.JPG
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/Neca/IMG_3403.JPG
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/Neca/IMG_3407.JPG
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/Neca/IMG_3418.JPG
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/Neca/IMG_3416.JPG
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/Neca/IMG_3409.JPG

CelticPredator
02-16-2009, 05:56 PM
I see a lot of Kurt...

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/11/02/DP_071102120315928_wideweb__300x375.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/adc/10101817A~Kurt-Russell-Posters.jpg

greyrabbit
02-16-2009, 05:58 PM
..with the mini gun arnie, I'm wondering where does the ammo belt lead to? Is there an ammo bag on the figures back? If there is, I can't see it from those shots.

I'm liking the endo arm version (non jacket) and BD the most.

It'll be interesting to see what parts can be usable from these to kitbash/upgrade articulated 1/6 customs :)

xenoviper
02-16-2009, 06:04 PM
..with the mini gun arnie, I'm wondering where does the ammo belt lead to? Is there an ammo bag on the figures back? If there is, I can't see it from those shots.

I'm liking the endo arm version (non jacket) and BD the most.

It'll be interesting to see what parts can be usable from these to kitbash/upgrade articulated 1/6 customs :)

These are 7" figures... dont think you can use em for 1/6th tho... unless they release 12" versions... :)

CelticPredator
02-16-2009, 06:22 PM
NECA only does 12 inch when the 18 inch is too expensive....so a 12 inch is a possbilty.

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 06:23 PM
And there are times NECA only does 7", like AVPR.

a-dev
02-16-2009, 06:23 PM
My only criticism would be in getting the stern terminator look NECA and every company before them tend to make him look too old for his 1991 age. His skin should be a bit smoother. But damn everything else looks great. Love that exposed endo arm - I've always wanted a figure from that scene. One of my favourite special effects in T2

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 06:28 PM
My only criticism would be in getting the stern terminator look NECA and every company before them tend to make him look too old for his 1991 age. His skin should be a bit smoother. But damn everything else looks great. Love that exposed endo arm - I've always wanted a figure from that scene. One of my favourite special effects in T2

I think that's just NECA in general, not just T2, their figures tend to have a rougher finish to the faces.

CelticPredator
02-16-2009, 06:57 PM
And softer details, with bad paint apps.

agonistes86
02-16-2009, 06:59 PM
Again, people should read this link from a few pages back :lol http://www.figures.com/databases/action.cgi?setup_file=fignews2.setup&category=actionfigures&topic=155&show_article=568&nl=1

It also says:
"A 12" Arnold Terminator is also planned."

So there will be a 12" version.

CelticPredator
02-16-2009, 07:10 PM
Yeah, I dont think a 12 inch is going to happen.




;)

Voorhees27
02-16-2009, 07:44 PM
I dunno the likeness is not all that great but its still cool to know that there will be something new in the way of T2. I sure as hell hope this means that Hot Toys will have an opportunity at making something as well. Maybe another Sideshow license share?

Something similar to the Scarface's uprise of products some years ago would be cool. It seemed that every and any company capable made something Scarface back then.

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 07:57 PM
With Scarface it was the big Anniversary and DVD, now T2 has the hype of T4. I hope this is a sign of things. I hope if HT does take on T2 merchandise, they expand and complete Sideshow's offering instead of replacing. I want a 1/6 BD T2 and gatling gun and all and Biker T-1000 and John Connor, we've got biker T-800 and cop T-1000 covered well enough.

Voorhees27
02-16-2009, 08:04 PM
With Scarface it was the big Anniversary and DVD, now T2 has the hype of T4. I hope this is a sign of things. I hope if HT does take on T2 merchandise, they expand and complete Sideshow's offering instead of replacing. I want a 1/6 BD T2 and gatling gun and all and Biker T-1000 and John Connor, we've got biker T-800 and cop T-1000 covered well enough.

Yes I agree 100%, if Hot Toys made a T-1000 with pink pants for some odd reason i'd still buy it! If HT's does have the opportunity there is no doubt that they will all kick ass. I agree about them not making "Clean" versions, the same ones that Sideshow gave us.

A T-1000 in biker suit? ....................... oh man I need to stop thinking of the possibilities. :cool:

Oh btw Sean, killer signature, Rocky II's training sequence is my favorite.

a-dev
02-16-2009, 08:44 PM
No I'd take HT clean versions, I think HT would do an improved job. With todays standards any new HT figure would make the SS figures stand out for the wrong reasons - cheaper clothing, inferior likenesses etc.

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 08:44 PM
Oh btw Sean, killer signature, Rocky II's training sequence is my favorite.

Thanks, yeah that one's my favorite, the first movie's was too "hopeful" I guess, 2 was more raw and full of determination to win.

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 08:45 PM
No I'd take HT clean versions, I think HT would do an improved job. With todays standards any new HT figure would make the SS figures stand out for the wrong reasons - cheaper clothing, inferior likenesses etc.

I'd take them too, but AFTER ones SSC didn't do, Sideshow's are fine enough, HT's line would be much better if they picked up where SSC left off and finish things off for the collector. The biggest dissappointment with SSC's was the lack of figures, I'd like to see the ones I dreamed they'd have done become a reality, then deal with revisiting what they did do.

Matt S
02-16-2009, 09:12 PM
Ever since Mcfarlane teased us with their T2 (with full on likeness), as seen in this thread, I have been dying for a great T2 line, and it looks to be here finally. Likeness looks pretty darn good to me, here's hoping the factory does a great paint job....

Why no Terminator (1) figures....? Arnie in that first one looked very scary - I would love to see some done from the original movie with a Kyle Reese....

MaulFan
02-16-2009, 09:15 PM
I'm not sure what rights exist or not for T1. T2 was at the start of the big merchandising era and the filmmakers secured rights for things, going through the film rights holders is enough. Films like T1 and Predator weren't wise enough and likeness rights have to go through Arnold's people as well as through those owning the film rights, which complicates things. HT's Predator figure has been plagued with issues over Arnie likeness rights.

Agen
02-16-2009, 10:52 PM
Battle damaged head look better.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4739/img0613hz3.jpghttp://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1787/img06133ob3.jpg

EndIessRAlN
02-17-2009, 02:02 AM
Oh wow. I just hope the final product looks like that. Neca always has flashy prototypes but what you get in a packaging sometimes are a few yards off.

-Super Hans-
02-17-2009, 03:08 AM
if they payed alot of money for the arnie likeness, you'd think they'd do a better job really :dunno

Ben
02-17-2009, 05:14 AM
do not like the head sculpts.

abake
02-17-2009, 07:54 AM
Awesome.
That's all I have to say.
I might pick a couple of these up, even though I'm not such a big fan.

Johnny Utah
02-17-2009, 08:44 AM
The NECA T2 figures all have this strange 'line' on their chins...I know Kyle 'Tankman' Windrix wouldn't have sculpted it on there if it wasn't actually on Arnold's face...does anyone have any pics of this cos this line is my Grail and I'd hate to haver this one thing bugging me if it isn't really meant to be there.

Morbach
02-17-2009, 08:47 AM
yep. I'm getting these :D

slipknotpredator
02-17-2009, 08:52 AM
Hope the finished product looks like Arnold.

tankman
02-17-2009, 11:48 AM
The NECA T2 figures all have this strange 'line' on their chins...I know Kyle 'Tankman' Windrix wouldn't have sculpted it on there if it wasn't actually on Arnold's face...does anyone have any pics of this cos this line is my Grail and I'd hate to haver this one thing bugging me if it isn't really meant to be there.

The chin thing is on the real man and I worked very hard to get it and the end of the nose right this time around. This face is much better than the one I did back in the day of working over at Mcfarlane. Still it was sad to see the head not ever get used but in the end I'm glad really because it gave us a chance to go back and do it better now. It's kind of funny how some of these pics make the head look different when it's the same head from battle damage to none battle damage. I changed the eyebrow's just a little bit. I let my friend Sam Lute go ahead and do the full battle damaged head and it looks great. I'm a big Terminator fan and I love the fact that were doing 4 deffent figure when Todd never would have let us do that back in 2000. I remember having to fight just to get two heads to come with the one figure but I guess it wasn't to be. Now we just have to hope China will do a great job on these and I'm so looking forward to seeing the first test shots come in.

I can remember back in 2001 Toyfair looking at the Movie Maniacs line thinking to myself just how great it was to be working at a place that let us create such neat figures. It was so cool to know there would be Terminator figures and at that time we had no idea Arnold wouldn't let the figure be made with his likeness. It felt like a bad dream really.
It Kind of sucks and is sad really what McFarlane has to show at Toyfair now days. Hopefully they can get back to what made them great to begain with and it feels funny to me that time goes by so fast and that was almost 10 years ago. WOW.

a-dev
02-17-2009, 11:52 AM
Ever since Mcfarlane teased us with their T2 (with full on likeness), as seen in this thread, I have been dying for a great T2 line, and it looks to be here finally

Exactly. I can't believe its taken so long for a company to properly use this license. NECA look to be putting out every incarnation of the T2 T-800 I've always wanted. McFarlane let us down with only 4 figures from T2, OK maybe 2 more if you count the sarah connor variants - the key figure didn't have the likeness which perhaps rendered moot the idea of doing anymore of them. Then Sideshow come along and do a mere 3 figures in the 12" scale and they use the puniest body for Arnold. Meanwhile both companies get his hair wrong and SS give him a generic neck rather than the bullneck that a schwarzennegger figure ought to have.

Who knows what NECAs figures will turn out like once they're scaled down and given factory paintjobs but I'm optimistic - they have to improve sometime. And I'd rather have these guys than none at all. I'm getting 2 of each. Hopefully they'll be suitably in scale with McFarlanes T2 and T3 lines. If so we'll have an amazing collection of T2 figures, because McFarlanes are still pretty good despite my disappointment with their underuse of the license.

Johnny Utah
02-17-2009, 11:52 AM
Kyle,you sir are a gentleman.You really have put me at ease. Just a few questions.

1.Have you any pics of the fully damaged headsculpt?

2.Will you guys be making a second T-1000 wave?

3.What reference had you to sculpt with,were you given any pics from the studio for these sculpts,which are frankly the best and most detailed Arnold sculpts I have ever seen...you have topped Conan,SS and even Hot Toys' Dutch figure in my opinion.Properly done T-800's are my Grail,and now I'm getting it.Please forward on my thanks to everyone involved at your company.

tankman
02-17-2009, 12:08 PM
The NECA T2 figures all have this strange 'line' on their chins...I know Kyle 'Tankman' Windrix wouldn't have sculpted it on there if it wasn't actually on Arnold's face...does anyone have any pics of this cos this line is my Grail and I'd hate to haver this one thing bugging me if it isn't really meant to be there.

More about the chin dimple. I have two Arnold face castings and both have the chin dimple and thats what I tried to recreate. One casting is T2 Arnold and the other is Total Recall. If you know it's there you can see it in the movie. I tried to give the face as much realism as possible and really make the body dead on this time. Looking back at the figure I did in 2000 I can see it's not thick enough and I improved the body this go around. All the weapons are much better and Sam Lute worked on those and made sure the stuff is dead on. Terminator one and two is his favorite movies and as a fan and great artist he wants everything to be great on these figures. Everything is much better this time around and we took a lot more time on it. Hopefully fans will be really happy with the figures. I got pics of the finished full damaged head sculpt Sam finished and it looks so freaking cool. As a Terminator fan this puts a real big smile on my face and now lets bring on T1.

I'LL BE BACK.

BuGz
02-17-2009, 12:12 PM
Nice one man! So good to see alot of dedication brought forward for this franchise! You did a fantastic job! I for one will be buying these guys! And look forward to some T1 figures too! I'm a very happy chappy right now!!

Thanks

Bri :D

Johnny Utah
02-17-2009, 12:13 PM
I notice the chin dimple now when I watch T2! It can be seen juuusssttt as he removes the skin on his arm,as well as in certain frames when he is explaining the T-1000 to john on the bike. I am impressed!

MaulFan
02-17-2009, 12:19 PM
The chin thing is on the real man and I worked very hard to get it and the end of the nose right this time around. This face is much better than the one I did back in the day of working over at Mcfarlane. Still it was sad to see the head not ever get used but in the end I'm glad really because it gave us a chance to go back and do it better now. It's kind of funny how some of these pics make the head look different when it's the same head from battle damage to none battle damage. I changed the eyebrow's just a little bit. I let my friend Sam Lute go ahead and do the full battle damaged head and it looks great. I'm a big Terminator fan and I love the fact that were doing 4 deffent figure when Todd never would have let us do that back in 2000. I remember having to fight just to get two heads to come with the one figure but I guess it wasn't to be. Now we just have to hope China will do a great job on these and I'm so looking forward to seeing the first test shots come in.

I can remember back in 2001 Toyfair looking at the Movie Maniacs line thinking to myself just how great it was to be working at a place that let us create such neat figures. It was so cool to know there would be Terminator figures and at that time we had no idea Arnold wouldn't let the figure be made with his likeness. It felt like a bad dream really.
It Kind of sucks and is sad really what McFarlane has to show at Toyfair now days. Hopefully they can get back to what made them great to begain with and it feels funny to me that time goes by so fast and that was almost 10 years ago. WOW.

You were a McFarlane sculptor, what other Movie Maniacs did you do? Michael Myers? Headleass Horseman?

Agen
02-17-2009, 12:20 PM
Fully damaged head.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3959/arnoldschwarzeneggerbybcd5.jpg

tankman
02-17-2009, 12:21 PM
Kyle,you sir are a gentleman.You really have put me at ease. Just a few questions.

1.Have you any pics of the fully damaged headsculpt?

2.Will you guys be making a second T-1000 wave?

3.What reference had you to sculpt with,were you given any pics from the studio for these sculpts,which are frankly the best and most detailed Arnold sculpts I have ever seen...you have topped Conan,SS and even Hot Toys' Dutch figure in my opinion.Properly done T-800's are my Grail,and now I'm getting it.Please forward on my thanks to everyone involved at your company.

Thanks man and I do hope the T1000 will be made too. The Arnold thing came out of nowhere and we wanted to get these figures done in time for T4 movie release. If we would have had the time I'm sure T1000 would have been made too. If the T800 figures do well I'm sure the T1000 will be made too and as a fan I hope we make it. Randy and myself want it to happen but the boss has to say lets do it first.
We know our Endo was a China mess and we are trying to put it out the way we wanted it to be the first time around. I would think these figures will do very well because T2 is one of those movies that keeps on going as a classic and guys will aways want cool ass figures from it.

The clay on the fully damaged head is being molded up today and should get painted by the end of the week. We didn't have enough time to get it into the show.

Makes my day to see hard core fans love what we are doing with the Terminator figures. I did have good info to go by on the head. Really it was very good. I had three weeks to rush the sculpt out back at McFarlane but this time had more time to get things better and I feel we did that. I just can't believe that was 9 years ago. What Happened?

tankman
02-17-2009, 12:28 PM
You were a McFarlane sculptor, what other Movie Maniacs did you do? Michael Myers? Headleass Horseman?

Yes and I did both Myers figures but not the Horseman. Looks like I might be doing my 5th Myers figure soon maybe. I would love to do a Myers from part two ^^^^ Warlock. How about the 18 inch new Jason from that new kick ass Friday the 13th movie? Have you gotten yours yet?

CelticPredator
02-17-2009, 12:31 PM
Who sculpted the T3 figures? Those IMO were the best.

Kyle, if you can make the eyes a little bigger, the figure would be a lot better. But something is just IMO off. But as always, your cloths are just top notch.

Johnny Utah
02-17-2009, 12:39 PM
I think the eyes are perfect! Arnold always had a squint thing going on in the film.

Kyle, can you post pics of the painted fully damaged head when you get them? I always look forward to hearing input from you around Toyfair,I remember years ago asking if you were gonna be sculpting the Kurgan!

tankman
02-17-2009, 12:41 PM
Who sculpted the T3 figures? Those IMO were the best.

Kyle, if you can make the eyes a little bigger, the figure would be a lot better. But something is just IMO off. But as always, your cloths are just top notch.

We all have our opionon and your the same guy that thinks the McFarlane Alien is a better figure than the new Alien figure right? I didn't work on the T3 figures so there not as good. LOL.

Johnny Utah
02-17-2009, 12:42 PM
Ha ha burn!

CelticPredator
02-17-2009, 12:44 PM
We all have our opionon and your the same guy that thinks the McFarlane Alien is a better figure than the new Alien figure right? I didn't work on the T3 figures so there not as good. LOL.

Oh I have some good ones for you. But I'd rather be civil, and not a douche.

CelticPredator
02-17-2009, 12:45 PM
And also, so what if I want you to improve upon it. Thats what should happen with all work. I just think something is off around the eye area, and maybe you should take another look. No need to be hostile.

tankman
02-17-2009, 12:50 PM
I think the eyes are perfect! Arnold always had a squint thing going on in the film.

Kyle, can you post pics of the painted fully damaged head when you get them? I always look forward to hearing input from you around Toyfair,I remember years ago asking if you were gonna be sculpting the Kurgan!

Seems to me you know the Terminator and thats what I went for. Funny how I did end up doing the Kurgan. I think we'll put pics up real soon and too bad we didn't have it ready for Toyfair. I think you will be real happy with the fully damaged head. We still need to tweak a few things and are hoping the figures will be great. I remember what happened to Mcfarlane on two of there Arnold figures after China got finished with them. I have castings of the origanal sculpts and they are good but not dead on. You always have your fingers crossed when China sends you test shots and fans have no idea how tough they can make things.

Johnny Utah
02-17-2009, 01:00 PM
I have read enough of the results that can come back from China sometimes it must be a real kick in the nuts to see that happen.

What might you be tweaking on these figures?

I am a real hardcore Terminator fan,nitpicking the tiniest detail on these figures...i noticed you even have the exact same pattern of bullet hits on the 'Mall' T-800's jacket! Jesus!

It's so great to have a fan sculpting these.Seriously Kyle thank you.You guys are really too cool for putting out every incarnation of Arnold from my no 1 film of all time. I really am so chuffed here. Now get at the powers that be to finally make a T1 Arnold, seeing as he only has 2,maybe 3 looks in that film,and finally a 1984 Kyle Reese!

tankman
02-17-2009, 01:03 PM
And also, so what if I want you to improve upon it. Thats what should happen with all work. I just think something is off around the eye area, and maybe you should take another look. No need to be hostile.

Come on young one you know LOL? To be honost with you the pics at Toyfair seem to make the eyes look smaller than thay are. I think we got it real close and if the test shots look funny we'll fix it if it needs it. The only thing is some might think oh crap now they look big. Like I said we all have our opionon on things but mine is the right one. LOL.
I do hope most will be happy but you can't make everybody happy it seems.
You can aways tear the head off the T3 figure and put it on the T2 figure if you don't like the way ours comes out.
The best T2 head I ever seen is the SS Trever Grove head and he did the squint thing too. Maybe you should watch the movie again and get back to me on this one.

CelticPredator
02-17-2009, 01:07 PM
Riggghht. Gotta love sculpters.

tankman
02-17-2009, 01:08 PM
I have read enough of the results that can come back from China sometimes it must be a real kick in the nuts to see that happen.

What might you be tweaking on these figures?

I am a real hardcore Terminator fan,nitpicking the tiniest detail on these figures...i noticed you even have the exact same pattern of bullet hits on the 'Mall' T-800's jacket! Jesus!

It's so great to have a fan sculpting these.Seriously Kyle thank you.You guys are really too cool for putting out every incarnation of Arnold from my no 1 film of all time. I really am so chuffed here. Now get at the powers that be to finally make a T1 Arnold, seeing as he only has 2,maybe 3 looks in that film,and finally a 1984 Kyle Reese!

Thanks so much man and I'm glad you like what we are doing. We need to fix the weapons some and Sam is like you and wants everything to be dead on.
I'm like you in that I want T1 as much as anything and I do hope we can do that one day. It makes my day to have someone that knows the movie so well like what we did on the figures. I would say to the other guy if he doesn't like the eyes just buy the sun glasses head.

Johnny Utah
02-17-2009, 01:09 PM
The squint is really apparent in the desert scenes,as well as certain scenes in the Steel Mill. Trevor's is really good,but it feels like Arnold. Kyle's feels like the goddamn Model 101.

Are you guys including a second head with the 'Mall' T-800?

And which figure will be made in the 12 inches format?

Voorhees27
02-17-2009, 01:11 PM
Oh I have some good ones for you. But I'd rather be civil, and not a douche.

Are you sure that is possible?

CelticPredator
02-17-2009, 01:12 PM
It is. See? Right now, I could say something. But I wont. If you hate me, then hate me. More power to ya. But why make enemies?

tankman
02-17-2009, 01:13 PM
Riggghht. Gotta love sculpters.

You know it and I do love high schoolers too. Hopefully you will like the figures and thanks for pointing out the eye thing. I will hope it will be to your teaste but if you don't like it just go for the sun glasses head.

CelticPredator
02-17-2009, 01:15 PM
See, all I wanted to do was to give you some constructive crits. But no. You decide to act all badass, and go at me. Uncalled for.

I want to buy these as much as anyone, but i'm not going to just say everything is right when it isnt.

And dont say anything about me loving McF more, because right now i'm pissed as hell at them for turning Halo Stylized into freakin mighty muggs. Bull^^^^.

MaulFan
02-17-2009, 01:16 PM
Yes and I did both Myers figures but not the Horseman. Looks like I might be doing my 5th Myers figure soon maybe. I would love to do a Myers from part two ^^^^ Warlock. How about the 18 inch new Jason from that new kick ass Friday the 13th movie? Have you gotten yours yet?

Ashamed to admit, but I still have yet to see an F13 film, so no merchandise bought yet, though I hear good things about this new one, so that might get me into the Jason world.

As for Michael, I've got the McFarlane, H1 NECA with Young Michael and RZ NECA as well as the NECA Myers-Loomis Pack. Love all of them, and the headless horseman, great stuff.

You've done a great job on this T2 line, really hope it expands, we're shown 4 figures, yet it feels like a tease, like ok, what else you got in mind :) Hopefully Sarah and John will get done at some point too, just one of each is all you need, but they are key to the story.

CelticPredator
02-17-2009, 01:17 PM
We need a good T-1000.

CelticPredator
02-17-2009, 01:21 PM
And dude, Kyle, i'm on your side. Hell, most of my collection consists of NECA stuff. I want the company to improve and continue to make these great figures for a long time, and not go down the McF path.

But I have been let down a lot in the past, (mostly paint issues) so thats why i'm so critical. I want the very best product I can get from NECA.

Johnny Utah
02-17-2009, 01:23 PM
Yeah Robert Patrick has yet to be done justice in any scale...I'd love to see the biker cop version of his character, even a SDCC exclusive of the nitrogen shattering one!

crazypredator2
02-17-2009, 01:34 PM
You know it and I do love high schoolers too. Hopefully you will like the figures and thanks for pointing out the eye thing. I will hope it will be to your teaste but if you don't like it just go for the sun glasses head.Any chance of a Sarah Connor figure in this line ?

MaulFan
02-17-2009, 01:36 PM
I don't know about that, I thought the Sideshow T-1000 mini bust came out great for the portrait.

http://www.swmmedia.com/SIDESHOW/T2/T1000MB/4.jpg

Johnny Utah
02-17-2009, 01:37 PM
That bust is good,but it looks kind of 'soft'...could do with some more detail and skin texturing.If any line or licence was underused,it's the Terminator.Hopefully this is the start of something great,with a second or even third series from NECA from T2,and finally T1 figures.

MaulFan
02-17-2009, 01:41 PM
I wouldn't count on T1 figures outside of an Endoskeleton. I'm pretty sure only T2 and later have likeness rights and such covered by the license holders of the film, T1 would probably have to go through Arnie's likeness company and that can be a ^^^^^ to deal with and NECA would likely pass on that. Maybe new T3 and T4 stuff, but I'd be surprised to see T1.

Johnny Utah
02-17-2009, 01:43 PM
NECA and now Hot Toys have managed to snag his likeness rights...granted,HT blew their load early by showing their Dutch prototype without having final rights secured,but I'm sure if NECa went through all the right channels,they could make figures from T1...these guys made Hannibal,Regan and Pinhead after all...I have faith.

MaulFan
02-17-2009, 01:47 PM
Well, I love NECA's products, but they also seem to shy away from some things they feel as unnecessary expenses etc., and if they're aware of HT's hastles with Arnie's people, they may not want bring that on themselves. I'd love for T1 figures as HT's just never really did it, but I fear that the Arnie likeness rights hastles may make it a property they don't want to pursue. If Conan entailed getting rights from his people, that's something else and promising. I just know if I were a company in this economy and saw the HT situation and the hastles, I'd probably say screw it, the sales aren't worth it.

Nocturne
02-17-2009, 01:59 PM
Fully damaged head.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3959/arnoldschwarzeneggerbybcd5.jpg

Where did you find that image, is ^^^^ing awesome!

ilovefreestufftoo
02-17-2009, 02:00 PM
I'm going to buy a whole case... maybe two.

a-dev
02-17-2009, 02:23 PM
Cool, actual sculptor participation in a thread. Good to know a fan with as much obsession with detail and accuracy is actually working on these. And it has paid off. These are the best T2 figures we've ever seen. A few posts ago I said I'd have 2 of each, I might even go up on that.

-most accurate in terms of Arnold's physique

-most accurate hair (I hope thats something that doesn't get tweaked, its perfect as is)

-Excellent posing (neutral enough yet action orientated)

-looks like theres some well-disguised shoulder articulation

-4 figures and alternate head possibilities mean we can have almost every possible iteration of Arnies T-800 from any scene in the film! With or without sunglasses, every combination of battledamage!

I think he's a bit too squinty in the face, he maybe has a few too many lines but I still think it looks like Arnold. This is a Terminator fan's dream come true - and opens up a lot of possibilities for more figures because these will surely do well.:banana

MaulFan
02-17-2009, 02:51 PM
Where did you find that image, is ^^^^ing awesome!

Could be a scan, I think that image was used in an old trading card set, I have it somewhere, buried. Cool set, pretty cool photos in it.

greyrabbit
02-17-2009, 06:49 PM
Tankman, just want some clarification from the source - which of these terminators are likely to appear in 1/6?

tankman
02-17-2009, 07:17 PM
And dude, Kyle, i'm on your side. Hell, most of my collection consists of NECA stuff. I want the company to improve and continue to make these great figures for a long time, and not go down the McF path.

But I have been let down a lot in the past, (mostly paint issues) so thats why i'm so critical. I want the very best product I can get from NECA.

All good here and it's cool you want the best figure posible. I think the paint should be fine on these but you never know. Lots of my stuff back in the day at McFarlane were painted so pore and for me I like to get my castings because I know it's my work. We hate it when China makes a mess out of things and always have our fingers crossed they won't.
What you are seeing at McFarlane is a man that is getting older and his company has a soccer mom mentality and the guys like myself have moved on. We use to tell him man it would be great to do Terminator or Iron Maiden or whatever. Todd really isn't into this stuff and you can see how that has shown in the last few years.
I can remember he didn't even want to do the Terminator because he thought it looked too much like Jason X. Believe me there is a good reason you see things over there now days that just make you want to scratch your head. I don't see NECA going down that road because our boss lets us the fans do things the way we like but sometimes he might want to do something like Twilight and were saying oh man gross. Guess what though, we sold so many of that figure so it was a good move. After all you have to make money in the end.
Everybody in NJ that has seen the Arnold faces up close seem to think there great and I'll bring it up to them that the pics at Toyfair seems to make the eyes look smaller. I would hear from them if they thought I did them wrong and they know I can take critisism. Sam Lute is a McFarlane vet and loves the Terminator more than anything. I'll call him tomorrow and see what he thinks. He also did a lot of the sculpting on the T3 figures at McFarlane.

a-dev
02-17-2009, 07:32 PM
Tankman, how cross-compatible will these figures be or would you even know at this stage? I'm already pondering headswap possibilities, even arm swaps so that I can create each and every 'stage' of Arnie in T2.

And hopefully when these do as well as they probably will there'll be the possibility of T-1000, john and sarah figures for us to recreate scenes.

xenoviper
02-17-2009, 07:36 PM
Ahh Tankman is here! One of my fav sculptor. Your work is amazing!
Ive written emails to NECA long long long ago begging for T2 line and finally we are getting it!

This could be a nice boxset idea :p
http://estb.msn.com/i/55/BB027393040FC8D8B1DB87B8FCDB1.jpg

I dont know but i still like your old T2 T800 heads... for those of you who never seen them... here it is...

http://www.thesculptorscorner.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=5645

915stag51
02-17-2009, 07:38 PM
Daaamn, those heads look nice!!!!!

MaulFan
02-17-2009, 07:43 PM
That Myers in the middle is amazing.

http://www.thesculptorscorner.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=5645&g2_serialNumber=1

a-dev
02-17-2009, 08:07 PM
Heres my extrapolations of the various stages the T-800 goes through in T2 from what I can remember. These 4 figures from NECA make it possible to have virtually all of these if we wish, by buying multiples and switching around parts should that prove possible:

Galleria fight - shades&black T-shirt using shotgun

Pescadero scenes - as above until loses shades

garage scene (resetting the chip/ sentry duty) - no shades, no jacket, grey T-shirt&shotgun

desert scenes - no shades, grey t-shirt under leather jacket&shotgun

Dysons house - as above until he removes leather jacket and cuts the flesh off his lower arm

cyberdyne scenes - no shades, now wearing biker gloves, grey t-shirt, full grenade bandolier, grenade launcher

cyberdyne siege - as above and add mini-gun and ammo bag

Post SWAT assault - no shades, still with biker gloves, grenade bandolier, pistol, battledamaged cheek&forehead&chest, bullet riddled leather jacket (teargas launcher optional accessory)

Steel mill pre-T-1000 fight - as above (only now with battledamaged knee?) but with both pistol and grenade launcher

Steel mill after first T-1000 fight - as above and add dismembered left arm battle-damage, remove grenade launcher&pistol, replace with metal pole!

Steel mill after 2nd T-1000 fight - as above and add complete facial battle-damage due to steel beam impacts. Bring back grenade launcher.

CelticPredator
02-17-2009, 09:01 PM
All good here and it's cool you want the best figure posible. I think the paint should be fine on these but you never know. Lots of my stuff back in the day at McFarlane were painted so pore and for me I like to get my castings because I know it's my work. We hate it when China makes a mess out of things and always have our fingers crossed they won't.
What you are seeing at McFarlane is a man that is getting older and his company has a soccer mom mentality and the guys like myself have moved on. We use to tell him man it would be great to do Terminator or Iron Maiden or whatever. Todd really isn't into this stuff and you can see how that has shown in the last few years.
I can remember he didn't even want to do the Terminator because he thought it looked too much like Jason X. Believe me there is a good reason you see things over there now days that just make you want to scratch your head. I don't see NECA going down that road because our boss lets us the fans do things the way we like but sometimes he might want to do something like Twilight and were saying oh man gross. Guess what though, we sold so many of that figure so it was a good move. After all you have to make money in the end.
Everybody in NJ that has seen the Arnold faces up close seem to think there great and I'll bring it up to them that the pics at Toyfair seems to make the eyes look smaller. I would hear from them if they thought I did them wrong and they know I can take critisism. Sam Lute is a McFarlane vet and loves the Terminator more than anything. I'll call him tomorrow and see what he thinks. He also did a lot of the sculpting on the T3 figures at McFarlane.

Mhmm. Its funny because most of the figures I own, were sculpted BY you. So its interesting talking to ya.

tankman
02-17-2009, 09:40 PM
Mhmm. Its funny because most of the figures I own, were sculpted BY you. So its interesting talking to ya.

That's really cool because really I'm just a fan like you and I want the figures we make to best represtent what we saw in the movies we like so much. Randy is a huge fan too and works very hard to make these things come out great. I would say the pics you see do make the eyes look kind of squinty but wait and see how it ends up looking. I like when fans point out things that might be messed up. Now you need to get yourself that fogged dome Alien figure. Oh yeah.

tankman
02-17-2009, 09:45 PM
Tankman, how cross-compatible will these figures be or would you even know at this stage? I'm already pondering headswap possibilities, even arm swaps so that I can create each and every 'stage' of Arnie in T2.

And hopefully when these do as well as they probably will there'll be the possibility of T-1000, john and sarah figures for us to recreate scenes.

Thats a really cool idea and I'll see if we can make them do this. I'm still trying to figure out which one I like best. Man Terminator freaking rules.

tankman
02-17-2009, 09:50 PM
That Myers in the middle is amazing.

http://www.thesculptorscorner.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=5645&g2_serialNumber=1

WOW, now that brings back memories and how time flies by. The Arnold heads here I did the eyes are too big.

crazypredator2
02-17-2009, 10:03 PM
Thats a really cool idea and I'll see if we can make them do this. I'm still trying to figure out which one I like best. Man Terminator freaking rules.
Any chance of a sarah connor figure in this series ?

CelticPredator
02-17-2009, 10:19 PM
That's really cool because really I'm just a fan like you and I want the figures we make to best represtent what we saw in the movies we like so much. Randy is a huge fan too and works very hard to make these things come out great. I would say the pics you see do make the eyes look kind of squinty but wait and see how it ends up looking. I like when fans point out things that might be messed up. Now you need to get yourself that fogged dome Alien figure. Oh yeah.

I want to so bad. I actually want the figure more so then ever. Really grew on me as of late. But Watchmen must come first....sorry. They're actually avalible here, so...I need to get on that.

xenoviper
02-17-2009, 10:23 PM
WOW, now that brings back memories and how time flies by. The Arnold heads here I did the eyes are too big.

I think the eyes are okay :D
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/CMAG/956-068~Terminator-2-Posters.jpg

Johnny Utah
02-18-2009, 07:22 AM
The eyes are fine on the new figures...leave them be!

a-dev
02-18-2009, 07:49 AM
Thats a really cool idea and I'll see if we can make them do this. I'm still trying to figure out which one I like best. Man Terminator freaking rules.

*Arnie voice* Excellent!

I'm obsessive enough about T1 and T2 to actually want to recreate each and every possible T-800 clothing/weapons/battledamage combination from the films.

Whats great about these figures is that theres 4 of these combinations done perfectly already, no changes necessary.

If parts are swappable between these figures (I dunno, might add a risk of poor quality control?) we could create even more film accurate combinations by - happily for you guys and the company - buying extra figures.

Heres one I'm thinking of straight away - take a normal left arm from mini-gun T-800 and replace the battle damaged arm of the 4th figure in the toyfair display - voila - you have a perfect "McFarlane MM4" T-800 only now with the correct likeness. It might be missing some battle damage on the gloved hand but thats it.

Sined
02-18-2009, 07:57 AM
One very important thing - make as many 12" variation as possible.
Terminator deserves it.
Hope NECA will hear it.

MaulFan
02-18-2009, 08:41 AM
*Arnie voice* Excellent!

I'm obsessive enough about T1 and T2 to actually want to recreate each and every possible T-800 clothing/weapons/battledamage combination from the films.

What's nice is, you could buy/make them all at NECA prices and probably still not ammount to the price of 1 HT. That's why I still collect things like NECA, quality figures, low price, easy to build a full collection without breaking the bank.

Matt S
02-18-2009, 02:50 PM
Hey Tankman!

Thanks for coming here and sharing. Speaking for myself, I love it when people behind the scenes share...and the main sculptor no less

If you guys could ever get the original Movie rights, that would be killer!!!!

tankman
02-18-2009, 05:33 PM
Hey Tankman!

Thanks for coming here and sharing. Speaking for myself, I love it when people behind the scenes share...and the main sculptor no less

If you guys could ever get the original Movie rights, that would be killer!!!!

Thanks and believe me I really want the first movie as much if not more than T2. If we can get it I'm sure we will. We'll have to wait and see how the T2 figures sell and if there a big hit I'm sure the boss man would be cool with us doing T1. As of now I don't see us doing a Sarah C figure but you never know.I would say the next figure would have to be the T1000.

CelticPredator
02-18-2009, 06:40 PM
You need to make a Miles Dyson! And after that, Dr. Silberman!




(I kid....please dont...:lol)

a-dev
02-18-2009, 07:32 PM
...well erm...I'd buy them...

CelticPredator
02-18-2009, 08:00 PM
Oh I bet you would....


http://shawn.ocia.net/photos/lolcat1.jpg

a-dev
02-18-2009, 08:35 PM
I would say the next figure would have to be the T1000.

Yes. Although putting out the 2 'most exciting' characters first might be the equivalent of shooting your load before you get around to catering for all of your particular fetishes which would have lent the whole enterprise an extra layer of satisfaction and closure.

This is what I'd love to have before this license gets retired:

-Galleria T-1000, no battle-damage, relevant accessories, definitive Robert Patrick headsculpt (swappable with heads from the other T-1000 figures), torso should be removeable from legs for cross-compatability reasons. A chrome liquid metal variant could be issued.

-Pescadero T-1000 with sculpted shotgun hits, interchangeable normal&hook arms, split head

-Biker cop T-1000 - likewise a chrome liquid metal version could be issued.

-Donut head T-1000 (more accurate redo of the McFarlane figure), at this point in the film he retained the boots from the biker outfit. Like the McFarlane figure the torso should be removeable from the waist&legs so that the undamaged head&upper body from the ''Galleria'' T-1000 can be transplanted onto this one for an undamaged Steel mill scenes T-1000!

-'Split down the side' T-1000 (best I could come up with) - from the scene where T-800 attacks him from behind with a pole.

-John connor (steel mill scenes w/ many accessories to compensate for smaller size figure?)

-Sarah connor (steel mill scenes, hair down - most important she have that shotgun)

I'd buy other figures too but these seem the most important. No real need for exploded T-1000 because the McFarlane one is pretty good for that - and I thought I was pushing it with 5 (7 if you count my variants) T-1000s.

CelticPredator
02-18-2009, 08:43 PM
I think NECA can easily get away with 2 figures...after the whole Wolf thing.

2 Figures.

One standerd t-1000 with opinional arms, and a battle damaged head, and biker head.

One liquid metal version with a optional biker head.

a-dev
02-18-2009, 08:50 PM
I think NECA can easily get away with 2 figures...after the whole Wolf thing.

2 Figures.

One standerd t-1000 with opinional arms, and a battle damaged head, and biker head.

One liquid metal version with a optional biker head.

But that would be what I've been complaining about - not milking the license for all its possibilities which every company prior to now has been guilty of. The T-1000, as I've demonstrated, allows for an even greater amount of figures than the T-800. I've even left out the metal stabbing fingers and the stabbing arm. In just 4 figures NECA, provided theres some cross compatability between them, have enabled just about every possible variation on the T-800 in the film. It'd be a shame to not give the T-1000 the same treatment.

I guess if I were to remove one of my T-1000 figures it'd be the donut head since we have the McFarlane one and the ''Galleria'' T-1000 could pass for my 'undamaged steel mill' version well enough.

Sachiel
02-18-2009, 09:08 PM
CeltiP,
A biker T-1000 would have to be a whole new sculpt.

We wouldn't settle for just a helmeted head.

Matt S
02-18-2009, 11:00 PM
Thanks and believe me I really want the first movie as much if not more than T2. If we can get it I'm sure we will. We'll have to wait and see how the T2 figures sell and if there a big hit I'm sure the boss man would be cool with us doing T1. As of now I don't see us doing a Sarah C figure but you never know.I would say the next figure would have to be the T1000.

Thanks, ah...I would love to see Original Terminator Arnie in figure form - that would be sweet. I would imagine these will sell well! Just make sure the factory paints em decent, and you guys are golden....here's to the T1000...there are lots of possibilites with that one!

And I the only one that would love a badass Edward Furlong....? Say what you want about him now, he was a pretty kick butt part of T2!

CelticPredator
02-18-2009, 11:06 PM
CeltiP,
A biker T-1000 would have to be a whole new sculpt.

We wouldn't settle for just a helmeted head.

Whats different?

Anyway, no. Milking is pretty bad. IMO.

Look at the AvP-R line...the movie sucked, but all we got was the same Wolf over and over. Boring. No new Aliens or a new Predalien....

They have to make things sell. You'll never get a John Conner because the mass public doesnt care. Unless he comes with Arnold on the bike or something....Sarah might do well. But any other character, you can forget about it.

I dunno....I just hate the billion varients, and nothing new to the table.

Sachiel
02-18-2009, 11:45 PM
He has a helmet, sunglasses, a jacket, boots. Probably new pants, the boots would effect those anyways.

So yeah, a whole new figure.

Motorcycle T-1000
http://www.terminatorfiles.com/media/pics/saga/t2/set/t2-set-robert-007.jpg

'regular' T-1000
http://www.terminatorfiles.com/media/pics/saga/t2/set/t2-set-robert-004.jpg

CelticPredator
02-18-2009, 11:57 PM
Hotlink Terminated!

Well ok then...but still, 3 T-1000s is more then enough.

Johnny Utah
02-19-2009, 11:47 AM
Kyle,can you please post any pics of these heads in progress,as well as the fully damaged headsculpt when you have it painted?

Also,will the Cyberdyne T-800 have the ammo bag with the figure?

a-dev
02-20-2009, 11:31 AM
Hotlink Terminated!

Well ok then...but still, 3 T-1000s is more then enough.


Not for me. 4 at least. With Wolf it was all just paint redos, masked/unmasked, or the same figure moulded in clear plastic. The T-1000 demands more variety. At least 2 distinct outfits that people would like to see in undamaged form plus all that unique battle damage - from shotgun hits to split open heads, donut heads to entire torso cut almost in half. All this stuff demands new pieces of sculpting unlike Wolf which, far as I could tell as far as sculpting went, just had mask or no mask. The T-1000 would take at least 4 figures to achieve near to all the possibilities from the film - and using a bit of technical savy to make them cross compatible - torsos removeable from legs, swappable arms etc.

CelticPredator
02-20-2009, 11:43 AM
I respectivly disagree. If you over saturate the market...things go bad.

Warrior Alien
02-20-2009, 11:53 AM
Pretty cool...

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/NecaT2/IMG_3011.JPG

"Now listen to me very carefully..."

MaulFan
02-20-2009, 11:53 AM
I respectivly disagree. If you over saturate the market...things go bad.

Depends on a number of factors though.

Quality of the piece
How different it is from the others
What the price is

If there's enough of a T2 fanbase willing to buy the NECA line, I think you can do a number of representations of the characters. NECA's basically the highest end collectible small scale figure you can get, that I've seen, in that statuesque kind of figure, not really poseable. T2, while having a lot out there, doesn't have a great deal of quality replications like the NECA lines shaping up. At their prices, nicely done, significantly different T-1000s will likely sell, even at 4 or 5 of them. It just depends on the committment of the collectors, are the people who'll buy these of the mindset of wanting every representation or do they just want a favorite 1 or 2. If they're in for variants, any number should sell.

Shai
02-20-2009, 11:59 AM
dIDNT kNOW THAT THE tANKMAN WAS A MEMBER HERE... :rock

a-dev
02-20-2009, 12:02 PM
I respectivly disagree. If you over saturate the market...things go bad.


I grant you I'm speaking with major bias - I'm a huge Terminator fan and I'd buy anything.

The thing is if they're just going to make 2 figures you'll just have people like me still waiting for more T2 figures in 10 years time from the next company that takes up the license, hoping against hope that the next company makes a version of the T-1000 that the previous 2 companies didn't make. I'd rather have them all now...at last.

Matt S
02-20-2009, 12:17 PM
Well, this line will get my full support! Neca is a great company. Now, I hate it when they go nuts and reuse the same body parts over and over, as they are doing on the GOW line; now, I understand the reason: with this economy it is necessary to cut costs, but its a fine line....

So far, they do a pretty good job with that, IMO. It gets a bit frustrating when you want a cool new alien and you get the 14th variant of Marcus... And if not for NECA, we would not have gotten lots of great stuff.

Whatever did happen to the Mcfarlane compay? I haven't seen anything cool from them for years....

MaulFan
02-20-2009, 12:21 PM
That's what hurt the AVPR line from NECA, way too many hardly different variants of Wolf. Nice figures, but a bit of a turn off when you have to buy a number of nearly identical figures just to get certain looks and weapons. I wouldn't mind buying 4 figures for all the looks if each one was a new pose and all.

a-dev
02-20-2009, 02:41 PM
It just depends on the committment of the collectors, are the people who'll buy these of the mindset of wanting every representation or do they just want a favorite 1 or 2. If they're in for variants, any number should sell.


I think a license as popular and iconic as T2 will definitely do well for NECA. For every person who only wants one or two favourites there'll be someone else like me whose obsessive enough to buy multiples of each, either for customs/part swaps or just because.

MaulFan
02-20-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm pretty much game for almost every figure, unless the pose or something just isn't my cup of tea, so far all 4 Arnie's have won me over. I love T2, one of my favorite movies and my absolute favorite Terminator movie, so to have such nice representations and so affordable and easy on space is exciting.

CelticPredator
02-20-2009, 02:53 PM
But you're in the extreme minority. Which is why a lot of figures dont sell. NECA is led to believe that "X will sell" because the fans demand it, when in actuallity, the "fans" are just a handful of people on a message board, and the figures dont sell. Its happened before. And I dont want it to happen again.

Arnold will sell...but the T-1000? I dont know. Maybe one classic version, but most people dont care about the other characters.

MaulFan
02-20-2009, 03:05 PM
The only times I've seen NECA struggles on the pegs has been POTC where they made some characters that who'd really care about, and they weren't that good looking anyway, and the AVPR stuff with all the rehashes. Any of their fresh stuff has seemed to do just fine. As long as they treat T-1000 like T-800 with full blown variants, I think it'd do fine. I'm glad NECA bases choices off the fans, at least we get what we want, even if there's excess because there's only so many of us.

Sachiel
02-20-2009, 03:15 PM
That's what hurt the AVPR line from NECA, way too many hardly different variants of Wolf. Nice figures, but a bit of a turn off when you have to buy a number of nearly identical figures just to get certain looks and weapons. I wouldn't mind buying 4 figures for all the looks if each one was a new pose and all.

Even though the Wolf had some nice articulation he was just too limited by the way he was sculpted. He need a bit more articulation and a more neutral pose.

The bloodied versions were going to far. It was nice they had the facehugger and chestburster, but they probably should have put them with a re-release or bloodied Alien warrior.

But I have no idea why they decided on what they did. Besides that the Predator was more expensive to make.

CelticPredator
02-20-2009, 04:14 PM
The only times I've seen NECA struggles on the pegs has been POTC where they made some characters that who'd really care about, and they weren't that good looking anyway, and the AVPR stuff with all the rehashes. Any of their fresh stuff has seemed to do just fine. As long as they treat T-1000 like T-800 with full blown variants, I think it'd do fine. I'm glad NECA bases choices off the fans, at least we get what we want, even if there's excess because there's only so many of us.

Ever heard of the Candyman crisis?

The people on the Spawn.com boards requested that every time a new MM series was coming out...and they made it. And he became the biggest pegwamer known to man.

Fans are not always right....unfortantly. I just dont want to see anything bad happen to a company because of the fans.

See SOTA for a better example.

Platty
02-20-2009, 05:20 PM
I know i'll be definitely be getting two of the arnie figs, sunglasses and shotgun, and mini gun.

Maybe the battle damaged one. The one with no jacket and half a hand missing doesn't really do much for me...doubt I will get that one.

a-dev
02-20-2009, 05:57 PM
But you're in the extreme minority. Which is why a lot of figures dont sell. NECA is led to believe that "X will sell" because the fans demand it, when in actuallity, the "fans" are just a handful of people on a message board, and the figures dont sell. Its happened before. And I dont want it to happen again.

Arnold will sell...but the T-1000? I dont know. Maybe one classic version, but most people dont care about the other characters.

Terminator is a big license. Its not a passing fad like so many other licenses - theres a current tv show, a new film in the summer and 2 films that are regarded by many to be classic. If action figures based on terminator can't sell then no other line should dare to be optimistic. If any license can capture interest from people outside of the norm who buy action figures its a highly recogniseable license such as Terminator.

I agree with Maulfan (predictably) - make them unique enough and 4 different T-1000s could sell in equal amounts - and there is a lot of scope for uniqueness with that character.



Ever heard of the Candyman crisis?

The people on the Spawn.com boards requested that every time a new MM series was coming out...and they made it. And he became the biggest pegwamer known to man.

There - Candyman - that hardly crossed into the mainstream like the Terminator franchise did. Its a prime example to support your argument but I don't think Terminator and Candyman are in the same league in terms of popularity.

MaulFan
02-20-2009, 06:03 PM
Again, it comes down to how you handle things. That Candyman example, I don't follow that so I know nothing about it, but some of the figures might have been poor choices for posing, etc. Even a damanded figure if not done well can fail.

Same with T-1000 and even T-800, it takes the right representation to sell it. I'm excited for all 4 T-800s because each one is a great representation of him from the respective moments. If one of them was a pose I didn't like or I wasn't happy about the execution, I wouldn't care. Fortunately, the sculpt work in the T2 line seems to be in the hands of uber fans and that should ensure the representations really speak to the characters and moments and capture them appropriately, as the first 4 figures have, and steps like making the fully beat up T-800 have multiple heads so you get more value out of the one figure is a great touch.

Shai
02-20-2009, 06:32 PM
Does Neca has a fan forum?

Sachiel
02-20-2009, 10:37 PM
I think NECA should start using colored plastic (the plastic they use is actually black (I found out the hard way) with painted details (like hair, eye brows, eyes, etc.) instead of having them fully painted. It is a VERY big part of why the figures come out looking like ^^^^ sometimes. The flesh has a very dry look to it and things get muddy.

The first Harry Potter series used color plastic and turned out great. Even though that was an accident (supposedly China was trying to rip them off) it worked reallywell.

Plus, wouldn't it be cheaper?

a-dev
02-20-2009, 10:41 PM
Just placed my preorder for these with BBTS. 2 of each including the endoskeletons. I'm best ordering these online since its rare I go out toy hunting these days, I could miss them when they finally come out - plus NECA figures cost 30euros each in Ireland. Bought 2 Aliens warriors yesterday - 60euros seems a tad much for just 2 figures. So these figures will be cheaper online.

Matt S
02-21-2009, 10:09 AM
I still have my two Mcfarlane endos(different chest areas), and the Neca Endo with base...the Neca one did look pretty great with that base and scaled gun....
I am ordering the whole t2 run....anyone know if the base for the re-release NECA Endo will be different?

a-dev
02-21-2009, 10:13 AM
I didn't get the original NECA endo - I had moved on to Hot toys and 7" figures seemed moot at that time. I've since resumed buying a few though and these new T2 figures are an action figure dream come true. I kind of hope at least one of the endo reissues has the original base as I did always think that looked cool.

Matt S
02-21-2009, 10:32 AM
I didn't get the original NECA endo - I had moved on to Hot toys and 7" figures seemed moot at that time. I've since resumed buying a few though and these new T2 figures are an action figure dream come true. I kind of hope at least one of the endo reissues has the original base as I did always think that looked cool.

It probably will as that base in the highlight.....came with an extra right hand....here's hoping a re-release has a true chrome paint app to it.....both releases before had more of a flat silver tone to them...

CelticPredator
02-21-2009, 10:56 AM
Playmates will make cheap ass Endos. I'm going to buy a ^^^^ ton.

Matt S
02-21-2009, 11:28 AM
Playmates will make cheap ass Endos. I'm going to buy a ^^^^ ton.

Argh.....no disrespect to you, but good lord man!!!!! Playmates makes garbage!

Shai
02-21-2009, 11:29 AM
Argh.....no disrespect to you, but good lord man!!!!! Playmates makes garbage!

:lol:lol:lol....:duh

CelticPredator
02-21-2009, 11:59 AM
True. But cheap 7 inch Endos I can buy at any store? Cant resist. Besides, the sculpts look OK. With a good chrome repaint they should be alright.

Sabres21768
02-21-2009, 12:26 PM
Argh.....no disrespect to you, but good lord man!!!!! Playmates makes garbage!

They're upcoming flying Hunter/Killer and Moto-Terminator look pretty cool.

Although, I don't know why the put a guy on the Moto...that guy is just asking for an ass kicking. :rotfl

The flying HK is badass though!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/sabres21768/other6/vehicle_hunterkiller_main.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/sabres21768/other6/vehicle_mototerminator_main.jpg

Matt S
02-21-2009, 03:44 PM
Ok, I'll give it to them: the ship looks pretty cool!

egoing
02-21-2009, 06:02 PM
They're upcoming flying Hunter/Killer and Moto-Terminator look pretty cool.

Although, I don't know why the put a guy on the Moto...that guy is just asking for an ass kicking. :rotfl

The flying HK is badass though!


The motonator looks like its windshield folds down and the handle bars fold in. It gives it a more autonomous look. The guy on the bike is Connor. Playmates ran into some likeness rights issues, so the only Connor/Bale figures will be obscured face sculpts for now.

alpha826
02-23-2009, 04:42 AM
i am all over that arnie with the chaingun figure.

Johnny Utah
02-23-2009, 01:07 PM
If Kyle passes through,can you please post some pics of the fully damaged T-800 head and any in progress pics you might have of the four Arnolds?

It's a dream come true to have a fan sculpt these,and I am really eager to see the work you and Sam have put into recreating Stan Winston's designs of the Stage 4 makeup.

Johnny Utah
03-01-2009, 06:54 AM
Bump in case Kyle pops by!

Mad to see the damaged head and red eye peering out!

Riko
03-01-2009, 07:22 AM
is this a 1/6 scale? how big is it?

actually the question is, could it stand perfectly? next to the HT endo? :)

Riko
03-01-2009, 07:32 AM
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2009/NecaT2/IMG_3011.JPG
"Now listen to me very carefully..."


I've been looking for that scene on youtube for a while, but haven't found it yet...

is there somebody who's got more success finding it? :)

Wolf873
03-01-2009, 07:34 AM
Those figures look very well made, are they posable? When are they releasing on to the market?

Johnny Utah
03-01-2009, 08:26 AM
First wave of 2 T-800's in May/June,plus a 12 incher too.Unknown which ones are in which wave.

MaulFan
03-01-2009, 09:34 AM
Started watching T2 last night and got really excited about these.

rivera2171
03-01-2009, 12:14 PM
I'm not excited at all.Neca's prototypes ALWAYS look better than their finished product.I dont have high hopes for these.

damienm
03-02-2009, 01:22 PM
I will definitely be buying this entire line. Is there any chance of Neca making one in the 18" scale?

Batfreak
03-08-2009, 08:13 AM
certainly they will be in basic 6 inch scale as usual. those are just the 2-ups, like they did with the TDK movie masters figures, they would have ultra detailed 2 ups and then the final product would be smaller but still very detailed but not AS detailed as the 2 ups were.

MaulFan
03-08-2009, 08:20 AM
certainly they will be in basic 6 inch scale as usual. those are just the 2-ups, like they did with the TDK movie masters figures, they would have ultra detailed 2 ups and then the final product would be smaller but still very detailed but not AS detailed as the 2 ups were.

Actually, NECA releases 18" versions of the figures fairly frequently, so there's a good chance the T2 figures will see at least 1 figure released in the 18" scale.

CelticPredator
03-08-2009, 10:44 AM
Or if that costs too much, they'll do a 12".

Johnny Utah
03-08-2009, 11:51 AM
They announced a 12 incher at Toyfair.

Batfreak
03-08-2009, 01:44 PM
yeah thats ussually what they do is they make a whole wave of 6 inch figures since that is the size norm for most collectors of these lines, and have at least one 12 inch figure for ppl who like that kind of thing. im not into those 12 inch figs. mcfarlane did something similiar with there T3 line, a bunch of 6 inch figs and one 12 inch basic arnold.

damienm
03-09-2009, 12:26 AM
I get that these are pictures of the 2-ups and this line will be in the 6" or 7" scale, I was just wondering if eventually we could get one in the 18" scale like they ended up doing for their "Freddy Vs Jason" version of Jason. If they are planning to release a 12" than I guess the chances of that happening aren't likely. The 12" scale doesn't interest me as most of my collection is either 6" or 18" scale.

a-dev
03-09-2009, 05:08 AM
What made you preferance 18'' over 12''? I dabbled in 18'' and bought NECAs Endoskeleton and Robocop but I regret it now. That scale is just too big, and if their production values in detail&paint were to be in proportion with what Hot Toys does at 12'' then 18'' would cost an absolute fortune for each figure. However I find them to be inferior in these regards so I don't see the point at all. Plus theres far less diversity.

So,

space required shelf height
less detail in sculpt&paint
far fewer licenses/far fewer figures - these factors go against 18'' for me.

Gepetto84
03-09-2009, 06:24 AM
Hi, everyone. What do you think about my custom figure?
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/5/4/6/5/1/webimg/235551888_o.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/5/4/6/5/1/webimg/235540187_o.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/5/4/6/5/1/webimg/235539803_o.jpg

damienm
03-09-2009, 05:41 PM
What made you preferance 18'' over 12''? I dabbled in 18'' and bought NECAs Endoskeleton and Robocop but I regret it now. That scale is just too big, and if their production values in detail&paint were to be in proportion with what Hot Toys does at 12'' then 18'' would cost an absolute fortune for each figure. However I find them to be inferior in these regards so I don't see the point at all. Plus theres far less diversity.

So,

space required shelf height
less detail in sculpt&paint
far fewer licenses/far fewer figures - these factors go against 18'' for me.

I prefer the 18" scale because most of my collection is Neca/old-school McFarlane and they usually do their large figures in that size. So, its mostly just that I want it to fit with my existing figures. If it weren't for that, I probably wouldn't care.

Johnny Utah
03-09-2009, 05:44 PM
It's Arnold.From my favorite film of all time.And the first wave is only 2 months away.

CelticPredator
03-09-2009, 06:42 PM
Hi, everyone. What do you think about my custom figure?
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/5/4/6/5/1/webimg/235551888_o.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/5/4/6/5/1/webimg/235540187_o.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/5/4/6/5/1/webimg/235539803_o.jpg

Something is off IMO. Like the anatomy is wrong in places....maybe someone could eleborate further....:o

Sabres21768
03-09-2009, 11:04 PM
Something is off IMO. Like the anatomy is wrong in places....maybe someone could eleborate further....:o

Well, his thighs are WAY too big. And he wasn't that bulky across the chest in the movie.

And who wears a brown belt with black pants and black boots?
Has he no sense of fashion? :D

But, it's a great custom. What'd you use for the base figure?

nicky
03-10-2009, 01:48 AM
Something is off IMO. Like the anatomy is wrong in places....maybe someone could eleborate further....:oHis upper body is too big - the arms, shoulders (esp deltoids), lats and his quads. Because his torso is so built-up his head looks too small. Otherwise, it's great work.

Batfreak
03-10-2009, 01:46 PM
i think the issue witht that custom is that he all around looks more like T3 arnold, not T2 arnold.

greyrabbit
03-10-2009, 10:09 PM
Gepetto, like others have said its just the proportions in certain areas and the face likness but really nice effort! Not bad in comparison to those vynil kits of the terminator from the 90s. I like the detail in the endo arm and body paint work you've done.

Balsquat
03-10-2009, 10:30 PM
Thats Mr. Olympia Arnold for sure:)

Gepetto84
03-11-2009, 03:00 PM
Hi, again! Thanks for everybody's rating! :)
Well, I have never made a sculpture previously. This is my first work, which I made at 2007.

"What'd you use for the base figure?"
I'd not use base figure. From sculptoring to painting is my own work, and I used those photos which I found in internet.
Here are some photos from the beginning:
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSC05708.jpg

a-dev
03-11-2009, 03:18 PM
I had a feeling you made it from scratch - well done. I'd be proud as hell if I'd made that. I wouldn't consider it a substitute for an official figure but as a personal piece of work its fantastic.

Gepetto84
03-11-2009, 03:32 PM
Here is a photo with better lightning:
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSCF0098.jpg

Gepetto84
03-11-2009, 03:35 PM
Return to the beginnings:
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSC06067.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSC06073.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSC06076.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSC06082.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSC06146.jpg

Gepetto84
03-11-2009, 03:41 PM
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSC06568.jpg

My Tools which I used to make my own statue:
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/MyTools.jpg

CelticPredator
03-12-2009, 04:42 PM
Hi, again! Thanks for everybody's rating! :)
Well, I have never made a sculpture previously. This is my first work, which I made at 2007.

"What'd you use for the base figure?"
I'd not use base figure. From sculptoring to painting is my own work, and I used those photos which I found in internet.
Here are some photos from the beginning:
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSC05708.jpg
Looks like a chicken on crack.....:lol


Its a good sculpt....but it just looks a bit too beefy...

greyrabbit
03-12-2009, 08:22 PM
one of skynets early attempts at the T800 ..the chickenator. Already has endo shins to boot!

Gepetto, you said you made this in 2007 thats impressive as your version is so much like the neca one in the same pose with the exposed arm version.

Matt S
03-12-2009, 10:45 PM
Looks better - that is a body he had in his prime - perhaps a bit beefy for t2, but I like it!

a-dev
03-13-2009, 07:26 AM
Looks better - that is a body he had in his prime - perhaps a bit beefy for t2, but I like it!

Yeah the body is kinda like when he was just doing the bodybuilding competitions before he went into acting bigtime. I think he'd reduced the muscle in T2.

Going back to the topic NECA seem to have got his T2 build perfect - and his hair. I can't stress enough how pleased I am that they got his hair right. McFarlane made it too short, sideshow cut it in too tight at the back.

Batfreak
03-13-2009, 07:02 PM
one of skynets early attempts at the T800 ..the chickenator. Already has endo shins to boot!




holy sh** that made me laugh.

CelticPredator
03-13-2009, 11:08 PM
I cant wait to see some inhand pics y'know? Those will determine weather they're worth it or not.

Hey Kyle, do you know what he's going to come with (each one...or whatever you know)

MaulFan
03-14-2009, 07:25 AM
When are these coming out, late summer?

Batfreak
03-14-2009, 03:43 PM
around may/june. just a couple more months, prolly around the time TS comes out.

Gepetto84
03-15-2009, 07:43 AM
one of skynets early attempts at the T800 ..the chickenator. Already has endo shins to boot!

Gepetto, you said you made this in 2007 thats impressive as your version is so much like the neca one in the same pose with the exposed arm version.

Yes that's right I started working on the figurine on 12.03.2007 and finished it on 28.05.2007. I spent ca. 10-15 hours working on it every weekend.
And on 06.06.2008. I sent one of the 3 copies to Todd McFarlane and it came back on 29.08.2008.

Jennifer Cassidy was my contact at McFarlane company. She wrote the following:

"Hi Csaba,

I was forwarded an email with your request for feedback from Todd McFarlane
on your T2 figure. We receive a number of requests similar to yours on a
daily basis, and although Todd would love to respond to each one, he simply
doesn't have the time in his schedule. As I'm sure you can imagine, running
three companies takes a lot of time and energy.

However, we value fans like you who look to Todd for his expertise and
feedback and thank you for thinking of our company. I want to make sure
your sample makes it safely back to you. Can you please confirm that the
address below is correct?"

H- My address Hungary

"If there is additional information I need to send the figure back to you,
please let me know.

Thanks,

______________
Jen Cassidy
Research and Development Manager
Todd McFarlane Entertainment
1711 West Greentree Drive
Suite 208
Tempe, AZ 85284
480.491.7070 ext. 249"

My figure arrived, and i got a signed picture from McFarlane :)

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSCF0160.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt34/Mikkamakka84/Terminator/DSCF0158.jpg

I saw the Neca's Terminator figures first on Monday, and i really like them.
I will buy all the 4 figurines!!! :P
That's really interesting as my version is so much like the neca's, that's why i will by it first!

Batfreak
03-18-2009, 01:15 PM
man im gettin all prepared for these awsome T2 figures, someone on another site is sellin me his whole Termimnator lot. ill be gettin

sarah conner (all 3 variantions) - T2
mcfarlane Terminator - T2
mcfarlane T-1000 - T2
TX Endoskeleton - T3
Terminator w/ coffin (both variations) - T3
TX - T3
Terminator w/ weapons (both variations) - T3
TX & Battle-Damaged Terminator set - T3
12 inch T3 arnold

awsome!!!!!!!!!

Gepetto84
03-18-2009, 01:55 PM
man im gettin all prepared for these awsome T2 figures, someone on another site is sellin me his whole Termimnator lot. ill be gettin

sarah conner (all 3 variantions) - T2
mcfarlane Terminator - T2
mcfarlane T-1000 - T2
TX Endoskeleton - T3
Terminator w/ coffin (both variations) - T3
TX - T3
Terminator w/ weapons (both variations) - T3
TX & Battle-Damaged Terminator set - T3
12 inch T3 arnold

awsome!!!!!!!!!

Wow! You're a Lucky Guy!!!

Batfreak
03-19-2009, 09:08 AM
Wow! You're a Lucky Guy!!!


i know, and all that for a really amazing price, you wouldnt believe it. so awsome.

Johnny Utah
03-19-2009, 09:19 AM
The first wave is the Galleria T-800 and the Dyson T-800.

That's jacket w/shades and arm removal Arnie for you,plus a new endo.



STILL waiting for pics of the fully damaged T-800 head.

Batfreak
03-19-2009, 11:55 AM
how do you know that those are gonna be first? also, is there a specific release date now?

Morbach
03-19-2009, 11:57 AM
I'm going to get these more than likely. Can't wait to get my T2 EXLUSIVE PF!! :rock

Johnny Utah
03-19-2009, 01:55 PM
Some sites like forbiddenplanet have them down for June,others for April.

nicky
03-24-2009, 05:27 AM
Play.com have the NECA T2 figs down for June 30th...but as 7" figs? What happened to 12"?? Maybe they're just not available for Pre-order yet and are trying to milk the cash cow by hoping people will buy the 7" first.

http://www.play.com/Search.aspx?searchtype=GADG&searchstring=Terminator%3A+Terminator+2+Cult+Class ics&page=search&pa=search

a-dev
03-24-2009, 05:35 AM
These were always supposed to be 7" - from what we've heard so far there'll only be one 12".

MaulFan
03-24-2009, 06:03 AM
Play.com have the NECA T2 figs down for June 30th...but as 7" figs? What happened to 12"?? Maybe they're just not available for Pre-order yet and are trying to milk the cash cow by hoping people will buy the 7" first.

http://www.play.com/Search.aspx?searchtype=GADG&searchstring=Terminator%3A+Terminator+2+Cult+Class ics&page=search&pa=search

NECA's primary product is 7" scaled figures, and in lines where there's more than 1 character/figure and no license restrictions, they'll release 1 or 2 12" figures from it, but the 7" is their primary scale.

nicky
03-24-2009, 06:07 AM
These were always supposed to be 7" - from what we've heard so far there'll only be one 12".Which one, the traditional leather-clad Arnie?

Johnny Utah
03-24-2009, 06:37 AM
I'd say the Cyberdyne Mini-Gun one will be the 12 incher.

a-dev
03-24-2009, 07:01 AM
The only one we'd probably all say it definitely won't be is the 'T-800 revealing endo arm'. It could conceivably be the battledamaged one but more likely the shotgun one or the mini-gun.

Batfreak
03-24-2009, 07:10 AM
i thought these were coming out in may, now june? or is it just some online site thats saying that? sometimes those online ordering sites get stuff later even if they are already in stores.

vasili91
03-25-2009, 03:24 PM
i can't wait for these!!!:D

Valfar
03-25-2009, 05:09 PM
Should the battle damage Terminator with grenade launcher have a more damaged head from when the T-1000 slides that big ass mullion like bar into his head? because i think after that happend to daze him, the T-1000 then switches on the gears to trap the T-800 arm in the gears, then obviously he tore himself free...but, i think that figure should come with a spare(un damaged) arm and a beretta i think it was he had? and the launcher..then a extra final scene damaged head and the torn arm like in the pic.

Ahh..nevermind! read previous posts..full battle damage head is coming, i will buy all of these, too bad my neca Endo's head snapped clean off with no force at all..love Neca's sculpts..the paint is the problem..some figures are brittle as well..just like the Predators from McFarlane.

Batfreak
03-26-2009, 03:59 PM
I see a lot of Kurt...

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/adc/10101817A~Kurt-Russell-Posters.jpg


lol kurt russel's got puppy dog eyes in this pic. :lol

quiggle
03-27-2009, 06:12 AM
love these figures, while the samples show them with stands do you think the final retail will come with them as well? one thing I didn't like much was the 18 inch Endoskeleton not coming with a stand and I could never get it to stand on its own.

MaulFan
03-27-2009, 07:11 AM
love these figures, while the samples show them with stands do you think the final retail will come with them as well? one thing I didn't like much was the 18 inch Endoskeleton not coming with a stand and I could never get it to stand on its own.

I've never gotten a stand with an 18" NECA, only the 7" ones, and even not all of those have them.

Hard to say if these T2 7" figures will have display bases or not.