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MaulFan
05-13-2010, 06:36 PM
What counts is having what you want. I just bought 4 of these the other day because they were dirt cheap but neat little representations of classic moments.

http://www.angolz.com/usercontrols/images/img.aspx?sp=/Files/Images/Products/yam21021_b.jpg&w=280&ro=1

Platty
05-13-2010, 07:12 PM
My T2 collection would contain so much more, money permitting. I've had to scratch and scrape to get the funds for the HT figure! £130 collectables ain't the norm, for me. This is my 1st ever brand new HT purchase. The first collectible towards the £100 mark i've bought, that's for sure. Definitely worth it, though. Ideally i'd love the Sideshow PF and replica "Rosebox" Shotgun and of course the life-size bust. I'd love a broad T2 collection.

Anways, as I said, i've had to scratch and scrape to get the money for this Arnie fig, as soon as I saw the spec pics I was off looking down the back of the setee for some pennies!

MaulFan
05-13-2010, 09:03 PM
http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/38.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/39.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/40.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/41.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/42.jpg

MaulFan
05-13-2010, 09:19 PM
http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/43.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/44.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/45.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/46.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/47.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/48.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/49.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/50.jpg

MaulFan
05-13-2010, 09:25 PM
http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/51.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/52.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/53.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/54.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/55.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/56.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/57.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/58.jpg

agonistes86
05-14-2010, 03:38 AM
Great pics as usual MaulFan, I especially like this one, perfect lighting for the scene, and the chain really adds a lot.



http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/56.jpg


Those pics make me even more excited about a HT BD version. :)

EndoSickness
05-14-2010, 04:02 AM
Same here.
You really let those figs look like they´re coming right outta the movie.
What camera do you use? Is it a professional, or so?

DiFabio
05-14-2010, 04:54 AM
Man, I want my T-1000s . . . NOW. I've been checking ebay periodically and they only have that one lot for Wave 3. My Toys R Us had the Terminator 2 Cult Classics Wave 3 listed to go on sale the week of May 9th but I highly doubt I'm going to see them by this Sunday. Can't wait to own all the variations. I'm even thinking of buying multiples to swap parts and come up with "new" versions.

So far I have all of them 6" and 12". My recent purchase was the 12" BD T-800. At first I thought about passing on it because I have the regular pescadero version and I expect HT to make one but I just couldn't pass it up. I love how they worked in all the articulation (especially that ball jointed head) without sacrificing detail or electronics. The only problem I have is getting his grenade launcher in his hand. I'm too afraid that I'm going to snap his left hand.

I've had one bad experience with broken ball joints . . .

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/DiFabio91/001.jpg?t=1273837660
http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt252/DiFabio91/003-1.jpg

It snapped right at the ball joint and was stuck inside the arm. I had to heat it up to get the ball out. I tried contacting NECA customer service but they haven't gotten back to me. It's been a few months now so I highly doubt I get a response.

I really wish these were still at retail in my area. The figure is perfect except that left hand.

I've looked on ebay but I really don't want to pay 20 dollars for just a hand. I was thinking that maybe I could swap out the gloved hands with the upcoming 3-D or Battle Damaged Terminator from Wave 3 and then just take it back with the damaged one but I'm pretty sure the Cyberdyne hand is unique to hold the minigun.

While I guess I could do the above and display him with the grenade launcher AND buy another one on ebay and give him the minigun, I'm still upset that it even happened.

EndoSickness
05-14-2010, 05:20 AM
Too bad, dude.
Never got any problem like that.
Posing and fitting the guns worked perfect.
Did you try to contact tankman?
May he can give you advice concering customer service?

Skiman
05-14-2010, 05:27 AM
http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/56.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/57.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/58.jpg

Amazing Sean, my favorite scene out of T2, man those were great!

*--Ski, raises thumbs up back at Arnold*

DiFabio
05-14-2010, 05:37 AM
Too bad, dude.
Never got any problem like that.
Posing and fitting the guns worked perfect.
Did you try to contact tankman?
May he can give you advice concering customer service?

Yeah, so far this has been the only Terminator I've had a QC issue with. I wasn't even rough with it. It's that situation where, you know the joint is stuck and that if you move it it's going to tear. In this case you have to turn it to get the minigun handle in his hand so once I turned it I could just feel it was damaged. I wasn't about to throw the whole figure away so I went through hell to get that ball out.

I'm not sure I know who Tankman is nor how he can help me. I sent NECA customer service multiple messages with the photos, info, an a request for just the hand but I don't think that's going to help.

EndoSickness
05-14-2010, 05:41 AM
I know exactly what you mean, but I have another problem with my cyberdyne.
His left foot is bended upwards and even with a blow dryer he keeps bending back into the same stance.

Tankman´s a member on this very forum and if I´m wrong, anyone, correct me, he´s a sculptor for NECA.

DiFabio
05-14-2010, 06:00 AM
I know exactly what you mean, but I have another problem with my cyberdyne.
His left foot is bended upwards and even with a blow dryer he keeps bending back into the same stance.

Hmm. It might be the upper swivel joint and not the foot at all. Check and see if the zipper on the lower part of the pants is on the inside (towards the right leg) or the outside. If it's on the outside, that's correct. If it's on the inside it's just turned wrong. All you'd have to do in this case Is turn the swivel around completely and then the foot, that should help.

If the foot is simply warped, you can pop them out and possibly heat it up separate.

EndoSickness
05-14-2010, 06:38 AM
I´ll try that, thx.
:)

DiFabio
05-14-2010, 12:08 PM
Pictures of the Split head T-1000 are up on ebay now. Looks really good. I love how the eyes are looking to the right like the movie.

EndoSickness
05-15-2010, 06:10 AM
Hmm. It might be the upper swivel joint and not the foot at all. Check and see if the zipper on the lower part of the pants is on the inside (towards the right leg) or the outside. If it's on the outside, that's correct. If it's on the inside it's just turned wrong. All you'd have to do in this case Is turn the swivel around completely and then the foot, that should help.

If the foot is simply warped, you can pop them out and possibly heat it up separate.

Fabia, Ijust cecked whether it´s on the in- or the outside.
It´s rightly posed, on the outside, so the complete foot is bended upwards.
So I think to try harder bending it with a blow dryer...

MaulFan
05-15-2010, 01:51 PM
Metal T-1000 confirmed for Comic Con.

http://toydirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/sdcc-2010-exclusive-Terminator-2-T1000-Liquid-Metal-NECA.jpg

Voorhees27
05-15-2010, 01:56 PM
That looks pretty good ............ so does it say if it'll be a 7" or 12"?

dcflake
05-15-2010, 01:57 PM
That looks pretty good ............ so does it say if it'll be a 7" or 12"?

I'm guessing it's 7" but we do need comfirmation of this.

Diapointed it's an exculsive I was looking forwards to that version. :(

MaulFan
05-15-2010, 01:58 PM
I would assume 7" like the other 2. I hope they put it out as a 12", either as the SDCC piece or in stores, Hot Toys will not be doing this so NECA's the only hope of having 12" metal T-1000 in the lineup, and their sculpted look actually will work to its advantage.

MaulFan
05-15-2010, 02:01 PM
Why is it so hard to post the scale, I guess sites figure we'll assume 7" since that's NECA's primary scale.

According to Horrobid, it'll have 5 different hands and a pistol.

http://www.horrorbid.com/blog/blog1.php/2010/05/14/sd-comic-con-2010-exclusive-liquid-metal

dcflake
05-15-2010, 02:03 PM
Will stores be getting the SDCC exclusive in or is it just people who went to the con and select stores who will mark it up for a stupid price?

MaulFan
05-15-2010, 02:05 PM
Not sure, I've never gotten a NECA con Exclusive before, they've usually been meh or not of anything I wanted, and just because something's happened in the past doesn't mean it'd apply this year. I'm guessing this'll probably be a fairly limited run compared to the other T-1000s, otherwise, why not put this out as the mass release and make something like the T2:3D figure be the Exclusive.

Voorhees27
05-15-2010, 02:05 PM
I would assume 7" like the other 2. I hope they put it out as a 12", either as the SDCC piece or in stores, Hot Toys will not be doing this so NECA's the only hope of having 12" metal T-1000 in the lineup, and their sculpted look actually will work to its advantage.

Exactly. Its an easy piece to add within an HT's collection ............... in his current state, the plastic finish makes sense. I sure hope its a 12"

Hey Sean whats the best site to visit that reports new teasers and what not of the upcoming SDCC? I remember last year members here posted new images and they were always from the same site.

MaulFan
05-15-2010, 02:08 PM
Between here, http://www.rebelscum.com/ and http://www.cooltoyreview.com/, I'm usually aware of every con piece out there to make sure I don't miss out on anything, and these are the only sites I really visit during the con, though occassionally people will link to places like www.figures.com for pictures but I find the best information from those 3. Other people could probably tell you other sites too, that's just what I use.

Voorhees27
05-15-2010, 02:10 PM
Thats what it was, figures.com. Thanks! I'll be sure to check them all out.

MaulFan
05-15-2010, 02:13 PM
http://www.flickdirect.com/images/movies/terminator-2/terminator-2_1.jpg

No problemo.

Voorhees27
05-15-2010, 02:16 PM
http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee351/roynajmeddine/terminator_t2_judgment_day_thumbs_u.jpg

MaulFan
05-15-2010, 02:19 PM
Man, if HT does a BD figure and gives us that hand, I'll be thrilled.

Voorhees27
05-15-2010, 02:22 PM
Man, if HT does a BD figure and gives us that hand, I'll be thrilled.

Well if they plan on ending the line with one more Arnold and DX it, they should make us a true 2 in 1. One of them being this final moment.

MaulFan
05-15-2010, 02:24 PM
Well if they plan on ending the line with one more Arnold and DX it, they should make us a true 2 in 1. One of them being this final moment.

That I'm almost sure of, it's whether they'll do the thumbs up glove hand or not, I really want them too, when I was a kid first watching this movie, I thought it was the coolest thing that in his last moments he did that.

Buttmunch
05-15-2010, 02:52 PM
From my experience with NECA con exclusives, there is a horrible line wrapped around their booth on preview night and then after that you can usually just walk right up during the the other days. There wasn't anything for me last year, but that is what I was able to do the year before. Hopefully it won't be bad this year either.

a-dev
05-23-2010, 02:42 PM
Really hoped we'd have seen more in-hand pics by now. I think its 'Darkside' who normally gets these first? Where are you good sir? Any sign of these?

Buttmunch
05-23-2010, 06:47 PM
Are they even out yet?

Boba Ben
05-23-2010, 06:50 PM
I just wanted to check in on this awesome 35 page thread I created but never post in. How's everybody doing? :wave

Blade3327
05-23-2010, 06:52 PM
From my experience with NECA con exclusives, there is a horrible line wrapped around their booth on preview night and then after that you can usually just walk right up during the the other days. There wasn't anything for me last year, but that is what I was able to do the year before. Hopefully it won't be bad this year either.

Is there a chance they'd run out of their exclusive figures at the con? I'm hoping for a Cloaked Berzerker Predator, and I'm wondering if I should stay in line at the start of the first day, or just wait until later (I'll be there Thursday and Friday).

DiFabio
05-23-2010, 06:56 PM
Can't wait to get this figure. I'm not entirely sure why they decided to sculpt that liquid metal effect on the bottom of his right foot though. I know when he walked in Pescadero it made that sticking sound but I didn't think it was like liquid metal bubble gum.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Terminator-2-Series-3-T-1000-Galleria-7-Figure-NECA-/170489278939?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b1f3f1db

MaulFan
05-23-2010, 07:00 PM
It's prpbably more for allowing his leg to be in a walking motion pose and keep stability of the figure more than adding the effect. I never even knew they'd done it and on a 7" figure, I'm sure you'll hardly spot it so no biggy to me.

Buttmunch
05-23-2010, 07:10 PM
Is there a chance they'd run out of their exclusive figures at the con? I'm hoping for a Cloaked Berzerker Predator, and I'm wondering if I should stay in line at the start of the first day, or just wait until later (I'll be there Thursday and Friday).

Yeah there is definately a chance. Its always better to be safe than sorry with con exclusives. You can just never predict how well an item will sell. I totally underestimated the DCD Rainbow Hal Jordan figures and didn't get any of them.

Sachiel
05-23-2010, 07:33 PM
You can still get last year's exclusives. I don't think the Predator is gonna be all that popular.

Buttmunch
05-23-2010, 07:41 PM
Just depends on the license/figure. You can still get quite a few of the older con exclusives from NECA Club, but RPD Leon for example is sold out. So its really just hard to say, but better safe than sorry.

a-dev
05-23-2010, 09:04 PM
Can't wait to get this figure. I'm not entirely sure why they decided to sculpt that liquid metal effect on the bottom of his right foot though. I know when he walked in Pescadero it made that sticking sound but I didn't think it was like liquid metal bubble gum.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Terminator-2-Series-3-T-1000-Galleria-7-Figure-NECA-/170489278939?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b1f3f1db

I didn't know there was new pics there. Yeah thats something new, that liquid metal effect under his foot - not a bad idea actually. They wanted a walking pose and thats how the figure will stay balanced (hopefully). Rather nifty I think.

The guy taking those pics must have pulled a few of the joints loose as a demonstration of what kinds of joint they are or something. The elbows and head aren't slotted on properly. I was worried that the sculpt wasn't able to hide the joints very well until I noticed that.

The head is most definitely a smidge too long in the middle but its otherwise good. I hope HT will do better in the raw sculpt - not a given.

Alice
05-24-2010, 02:38 AM
The in-hand pics look like Luke Wilson from certain angles.

a-dev
05-25-2010, 05:52 PM
Bored. Heres some more pics of NECA customs I've mostly already shown before:

-SWAT shootout,
-redone endo arm for Man or Machine,
-new NECA torso&arms/McFarlane legs custom (for more of a fighting stance for steel mill scene)
-NECA endoskeleton with the McFarlane endoskull (much better headsculpt and improved proportions I think).

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1760Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1766Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1738Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1736Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1735Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1734Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1733Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1744Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1743Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1745Small.jpg

a-dev
05-25-2010, 05:55 PM
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1748Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1750Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1755Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1757Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1758Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1773Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1775Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1781Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1785Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1784Small.jpg

a-dev
05-25-2010, 05:58 PM
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1782Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1787Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1788Small.jpg

Battle damage endoskeleton from opening future war scene:

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1779Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1778Small.jpg

Oh and heres what the 12" Final Battle looks like with the Hot Toys T1 sunglasses, they're a bit too big for this head, evidence of how huge old HT headsculpts used to be:

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1869.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1870.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1867.jpg

HottoyzJoker
05-25-2010, 06:06 PM
Battle damage endoskeleton from opening future war scene:

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1779Small.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/IMG_1778Small.jpg

HELP IVE FALLEN AND CANT GET BACK UP... :):):)

a-dev
05-25-2010, 06:10 PM
Battle damage endoskeleton from opening future war scene:


HELP IVE FALLEN AND CANT GET BACK UP... :):):)

Thats exactly what he's saying. I improvised a bit of extra battle damage in his legs (messed up pistons) to explain why that endoskeleton appears to be just lying there all confused in the film even though the only visible damage is a blown off arm. :lol

toyrewind
05-27-2010, 06:15 AM
Anyone got photos of the 18" endoskeleton from the first (orange box) and second (blue box) release? I heard the paint job on the second release is much better.

a-dev
05-27-2010, 12:55 PM
Selektiv posted photos of the better one in the NECA Predators thread I think.

marker2037
05-28-2010, 06:07 AM
Any news on a 12" Liquid T-1000 and where to get one?

PharOOO
05-28-2010, 11:30 AM
I suspect series 3 will start shipping to specialty shops next week.

DiFabio
05-28-2010, 11:33 AM
I know my Toys R Us had a sign up that stated that the T-1000 would be available the week of the 9th. They also have this new program where you can reserve NECA action figures. Kind of like ordering/reserving a bike or video games.

Obviously it's well past the "week of the 9th" so hopefully it hits soon.

a-dev
05-28-2010, 10:34 PM
Come on where are these things?? :impatient:

DiFabio
05-28-2010, 10:36 PM
Come on where are these things?? :impatient:

On ebay! For $19.99 plus shipping and 58.99 plus shipping respectively!

a-dev
05-28-2010, 10:52 PM
I only order through normal retail channels, the only thing I have complete faith in.

But in any case wheres the in-hand pics from anyone other than ebay sellers? I don't think series 3 is getting as much attention (least not from boardies here) as series 1 and 2 did. Maybe NECA are right to only be releasing 2 T-1000s?

DiFabio
05-28-2010, 11:02 PM
Maybe NECA are right to only be releasing 2 T-1000s?

Well three if you include that exclusive. Too bad there wasn't a T-1000 for every T-800 figure NECA has made. Still, I remember _____ing a few months ago about the lack of T-1000 so three is good enough for me. Would like more (MOTORCYCLE COP) but 5 unique figures (including the Movie Maniacs offering) with loads of swappable combinations is better than nothing.

a-dev
05-28-2010, 11:09 PM
5 unique figures (including the Movie Maniacs offering) with loads of swappable combinations is better than nothing.

Galleria, pescadero split head, liquid metal, donut head and exploded t-1000? Yeah and the cross compatability. Its pretty cool alright.

I can't wait to investigate if theres any possibility to give the old mcfarlane body a NECA galleria head and put the donut head on NECA body.

DiFabio
05-28-2010, 11:14 PM
I can't wait to investigate if theres any possibility to give the old mcfarlane body a NECA galleria head and put the donut head on NECA body.

Yeah, that's one of the first things I thought of when I saw the first pics of these NECA T-1000s. Unfortunately it won't be as easy swapping heads like it was with the Mcfarlane T-800. Their T-1000 had a swivel joint so unless we heavily customize it will be hard to achieve.

Still makes that original T-1000 figure unique though. I remember when it first came out years ago and I opened it I was just amazed at how cool it was. I still do. Even if it is preposed and scene specific.

highlanderpdx
05-29-2010, 10:15 AM
My son is trying to be just like his dad (he is 8) and pose his figures in different poses. I woke up and he asked me to put this pic on daddys favorite website. So here it is, 12" Marvel Masterpiece Wolverine vs Neca battle damage Arnold. :devil

Morbach
05-29-2010, 10:32 AM
I'll be getting this. Awesomeness.

Buttmunch
05-29-2010, 10:57 AM
NECA could get more out of 2-3 more T-1000s

Biker T-1000
Frozen Biker T-1000 (maybe like the Endoskeleton of the case?)
Steel Mill T-1000 (current T-1000 body but with Biker body's boots)

So they could make at least the one rehash figure by making the boot legs and reusing the current body they have for him. And make the Biker body/head with the arms swapable at the points where they froze off. They wouldn't even need to include stumps, although it would look better to fill in the holes. I'm hoping the SDCC T-1000 does well enough they look into a frozen biker version and a 12" liquid metal one as well.

DiFabio
05-29-2010, 11:16 AM
I'm hoping the SDCC T-1000 does well enough they look into a frozen biker version and a 12" liquid metal one as well.

A 12" 2-up of the liquid metal and regular version would be fantastic. I'd pair them both up with the 12" Pescadero and Battle Damaged Terminator figures NECA has done.

Buttmunch
05-29-2010, 11:39 AM
Well, as Maulfan has already said, NECA is really the only way to get a decent liquid metal version of the T-1000 in 1:6 scale. So if they only do one version, I want it to be that version. The HT figure will surpass any normal T-1000, but I doubt their ability to do a liquid metal version.

MaulFan
05-29-2010, 11:42 AM
Yup, the 12" T-800s are nice additions to a T2 collection, but in the end, with Hot Toys, you'll have options for a nice 12" figure of him and T-1000, but the liquid metal is one thing Hot Toys is fairly unlikely to touch upon, so NECA doing it is more a necessity than nicety.

Buttmunch
05-29-2010, 11:58 AM
Well, I do have to say Wolverine probably would win that fight :lol

DiFabio
05-29-2010, 12:21 PM
Well, I do have to say Wolverine probably would win that fight :lol

Not if Skynet used adamantium for it's endoskeletons.

Buttmunch
05-29-2010, 01:03 PM
I'd still put money on Wolverine.

Voorhees27
05-29-2010, 01:08 PM
I'd still put money on Wolverine.

Really? ................. I suppose. The T-800 in both films showed signs of wear and what not.

MaulFan
05-29-2010, 01:18 PM
Wolverine has the edge, damage his CPU it grows back, damage the T-800s and it shuts down.

Platty
05-29-2010, 01:50 PM
...Traitors. :nono

highlanderpdx
05-29-2010, 01:51 PM
I am pretty sure Logan would make short work of Arnold, Snikt Snikt Bub.

Voorhees27
05-29-2010, 01:52 PM
...Traitors. :nono

Forgive me father for I have sinned :(

Buttmunch
05-29-2010, 01:55 PM
But I'd take the T-1000 over Wolverine. No amount of clawing will kill the T-1000. You got to melt him in the sun! :lol

a-dev
05-29-2010, 04:09 PM
Yeah, that's one of the first things I thought of when I saw the first pics of these NECA T-1000s. Unfortunately it won't be as easy swapping heads like it was with the Mcfarlane T-800. Their T-1000 had a swivel joint so unless we heavily customize it will be hard to achieve.

The thing with the T-800 was that it wasn't so much exchanging heads between figures as just dumping the McFarlane one altogether because it was crap. So yeah there was no worry about how to get the McFarlane head onto the NECA body. This time there would be because we'd be intending to keep the McFarlane donut head to transfer onto the more scene-accurate non-battledamaged NECA body.

I guess you'd have to somehow remove the balljoint from the NECA body. This was majorly difficult on the T-800 figure and couldn't be done without destroying the T-800 body (I did it on a spare neca to use with the McFarlane MM4 figure where it works perfectly). Either that or hollow out the McFarlane heads neck.

The other question is are the size of the heads and length of the necks OK for the crossoever.

selektiv
05-29-2010, 06:38 PM
I love the 12" Pescadero , he looks exactly like the T2 Arnie, neca pls make a 18" of this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyOiCPs22KE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQeJUZxLmR0

AnD THIS ONE in 18"


http://geektyrant.com/storage/post-images/predator-figure-neca-03.jpg

and the world is OK again !


tHX nECA

Platty
05-29-2010, 06:40 PM
Forgive me father for I have sinned :(
With your dirty whorish mouth

DiFabio
05-29-2010, 07:04 PM
Speaking of which there are carded shots of wave 3 up on ebay. I would imagine they'll start to hit this week and the week after.

a-dev
05-29-2010, 08:01 PM
What is it with these ebay guys taking the crappiest pics? Heads not stuck on properly, weapons not being held properly, arms flailing this way and that with no attempt at a realistic or cool pose. Just annoys the heck out of me.

Platty
05-30-2010, 08:56 AM
Have you all seen Xeno's re-worked 12" pescadero sculpt in the customs section? It's fantastic. It is the semi damaged look.

a-dev
05-30-2010, 09:05 AM
Just went and had a look. Very cool.

Master Wayne
05-30-2010, 09:08 AM
But I'd take the T-1000 over Wolverine. No amount of clawing will kill the T-1000. You got to melt him in the sun! :lol

Given he had proper prep time, Batman could take them all down.

Idpullthecurtains
05-30-2010, 11:10 AM
saw them at Collectormania this weekend. The split head figure is amazing.

Buttmunch
05-30-2010, 11:31 AM
Was it chromed or just silver?

a-dev
05-30-2010, 02:28 PM
These are the latest pics I've seen from that ebay link:

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/necaT2s36.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/necaT2s37.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/necaT2s3.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/necaT2s31.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/necaT2s32.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/necaT2s33.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/necaT2s35.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/necaT2s34.jpg

No bandolier on T-800 for some reason. The paintjob is a bit cartoony and crap again. Why does my Conan figure have such a superior paintjob?

T-1000 looks cool. Crappy presentation though in these pics, he hasn't even assembled him properly. Perhaps trying to demonstrate that the heads are removeable but I would think the written description is enough for that.

MaulFan
05-30-2010, 02:36 PM
So, have to buy a spare FB T-800 for the bandolier to go on the new semi-BD figure, no biggy, but that scuks, unless maybe he does come with it and whoever took those shots is just missing it for some reason.

T-1000 looks good, hope these hit stores soon.

Buttmunch
05-30-2010, 03:12 PM
Yeah, they do look great. I'm surprised just how much I like the split-healing head. I thought it was a really odd choice for a head (why not donut, even if inaccurate?) but now I'm actually glad they made that one. Gives me hope we'll see at least 2 more T-1000s. Biker and Steel Mill (with donut head). Although they could easily do a Chrome Biker as well or even frozen. Hopefully they do well enough. And with all of the options coming with him, I'm really tempted to get a couple of each.

And I'm wondering if the SDCC T-1000 will come with all of the same stuff as the Mall version, or if he'll even get some unique stuff like an arm or a head starting to colorize?

MaulFan
05-30-2010, 03:26 PM
Here's the lowdown on the SDCC figure. Looking at the carded shot, seems like it'll be the exact same thing as the mall version, just with the body, head and hands all being chrome, they might slip and make the pistol chrome, but it shouldn't be, because that's not part of his liquid metal.


Why is it so hard to post the scale, I guess sites figure we'll assume 7" since that's NECA's primary scale.

According to Horrobid, it'll have 5 different hands and a pistol.

http://www.horrorbid.com/blog/blog1.php/2010/05/14/sd-comic-con-2010-exclusive-liquid-metal

As far as the healing head, I'm actually hoping HT including the donute head with the Sarah figure might mean we get fully split and healing heads with a T-1000 figure like NECA's done.

a-dev
05-30-2010, 03:32 PM
I'm not feeling optimistic about another series. Tankman said he'd rather move on to T1 if, anything Terminator, at this point. But maybe I'm reading too much into that. If these do well maybe they'll get some other sculptors on the case if Kyle is working on other things.

They've come this far. I think it would be a pity not to at least finish out the T-1000. Ideally they'd do Steel mill Sarah connor and young John but if they're feeling conservative even about the T-1000 then those two seem very unlikely indeed.

vodoun
05-30-2010, 03:32 PM
Good god. Those figures are very detailed!

MaulFan
05-30-2010, 03:35 PM
I could understand them calling it quits, the line's going well, but I imagine in any line, T-1000 is a weaker seller than T-800, and depending on the market and product, becomes less and less worth making mass available. Hot Toys will do fine with it, NECA on the other hand might struggle selling off T-1000s, and probably judged that off how well their T-800s did, and probably why instead of a 3 T-1000 figure wave, we get 2 T-1000s and 2 T-800s with the 3rd T-1000 being an SDCC exclusive.

At this point, I'm more concerned about the possibility of a 12" chrome T-1000 more than additional 7" figures.

Platty
05-30-2010, 03:46 PM
Think it's fair to say I still won't be buying those 2 new T-800's. I was planning on getting the Steel Mill but the potential missing bandolier and what looks like articulation that can't get the correct pose is putting me off. I want him to be able to get the same pose as the old Mcfarlane figure. That is what was intended of it, after all! It looks like his right arm can't bend high enough. The T-1000 looks great but why is he taller than the T-800?

a-dev
05-30-2010, 03:51 PM
The T-1000 looks great but why is he taller than the T-800?

I'm hoping thats just an illusion of perspective and the fact that the guy doesn't have his head pushed down all the way in some pics. Because yeah he should not be taller than Arnie.

Platty
05-30-2010, 03:53 PM
That's not just bias towards Arnie either. He is genuinely taller than him isn't he? There's no excuse if the T-1000 is taller, really.

a-dev
05-30-2010, 03:54 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure I recall the T-1000's eyes looking upward at Arnie during their fight in the mall corridor.

DiFabio
05-30-2010, 07:50 PM
Think it's fair to say I still won't be buying those 2 new T-800's. I was planning on getting the Steel Mill but the potential missing bandolier and what looks like articulation that can't get the correct pose is putting me off. I want him to be able to get the same pose as the old Mcfarlane figure. That is what was intended of it, after all! It looks like his right arm can't bend high enough. The T-1000 looks great but why is he taller than the T-800?

The bandolier is included and T-1000 isn't taller than the T-800. If you look at the shots the T-1000 is slightly raised in the side by side pics making the T-800 appear shorter. They also didn't press the T-1000s head down far enough.

Platty
05-30-2010, 08:30 PM
Cheers mate. Whats the poseability like on the Steel mill T800?

MaulFan
05-30-2010, 08:34 PM
Cheers mate. Whats the poseability like on the Steel mill T800?

If you have any of the other NECA T-800s, the articulation is the same, it's the same parts, all the T-800s share parts except for what has to be unique to the specific look.

If you don't have any of them, here's a breakdown from Cool Toy Review showing the articulation points of the Cyberdyne figure and the Steel Mill will be the same.

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/NECA/T2/CyberdineShowdown/NECA-102.jpg

Johnny Utah
05-31-2010, 04:50 AM
Just nabbed both T-1000's off the bay. Bring on the HT version.

Idpullthecurtains
05-31-2010, 05:01 AM
Was it chromed or just silver?

They didnt have the Liquid one :(

Platty
05-31-2010, 05:58 AM
If you have any of the other NECA T-800s, the articulation is the same, it's the same parts, all the T-800s share parts except for what has to be unique to the specific look.
I have them. You should know that, lol. The reason I ask is the articulation should be different on the Steel Mill compared to the rest as the Mcfarlane style pose can't be achieved if it's the same.

Play.com have the Liquid Metal T-1000 up for pre-order http://www.play.com/Gadgets/Gadgets/4-/15250413/Terminator-2-7-T-1000-Liquid-Metal/Product.html

Buttmunch
05-31-2010, 07:29 AM
They didnt have the Liquid one :(

I know, the liquid metal one is a SDCC exclusive. I was just wondering about all of his metal bits (finger, hook arms, exploded head, bullet holes, etc).

MaulFan
05-31-2010, 08:35 AM
I have them. You should know that, lol. The reason I ask is the articulation should be different on the Steel Mill compared to the rest as the Mcfarlane style pose can't be achieved if it's the same.

Play.com have the Liquid Metal T-1000 up for pre-order http://www.play.com/Gadgets/Gadgets/4-/15250413/Terminator-2-7-T-1000-Liquid-Metal/Product.html

I hear ya, but NECA's all about recycling, they've put out a T-800 Steel Mill without new parts and engineering and they're happy with that. Anytime they can reuse parts, they do unfortunately. I'm glad we've got so many T-800 representations from them, but it would be nice if they all didn't look so alike.

a-dev
05-31-2010, 11:23 AM
I'm happy as larry with the McFarlane figure itself for that pose. With Neca's head its an excellent piece, essentially a statue but since we have the Neca figures that no longer goes against as much as it used to.

To get the Neca figure into that pose it wouldn't be so much changing the articulation as increasing its range. The only way to do that would be to cut notches into the right upper arm so the lower arm can pull up tighter. Just not worthwhile.

The Rider
05-31-2010, 11:58 AM
In my opinion, the ball joints at the elbows of the T-1000 are very ugly.
They are not as hidden as the T-800.

This destroys the overall impression.

The face Sulpt is very nice.

I hope for a 18 "T-1000 and another 7" figures.

ludwing
05-31-2010, 12:33 PM
Hi guys! i'm new around here, so first of all hello to everybody! and secondly please excuse my awful english because it's not my lenguage and well, i'm still working on it.

I have the 4 previous Arnies and i'm really looking forward to the new wave. By the way, did you notice the cool effect on the T-1000's right foot, like liquid metal melting with the floor as he walks? it's not really accurate from either galleria or pescadero scenes but in my opinion it's cool and probably helps a lot with the stability

a-dev
05-31-2010, 12:50 PM
Welcome, awful english?? Not at all! I saw just one spelling mistake and even that was probably just a typo! Your english is totally fine.

Yeah that effect on the T-1000's foot is interesting. As you say not really accurate but its probably for the stability and also maybe NECA wanted to put in a discreet little reminder for people of the T-1000's liquid metal nature where otherwise some might say its just a figure of a policeman. I think its cool, it doesn't detract from the figure in any way.

MaulFan
05-31-2010, 01:00 PM
I think it's there mainly to allow for the in motion stance of the figure, because that's a feature that happens in the movie, it gives them something to add to the foot to help it stand up without just adding excess boot heel or something distracting, it's part of his character so even if you notice it, it looks like it should be there, but on a 7" figure you'd hardly notice it.

PharOOO
05-31-2010, 01:57 PM
I'm so looking forward to the T-1000 figures arriving at some comic shops this week!
I'm also really digging the split head T-1000 more than I would have expected.

Buttmunch
05-31-2010, 04:46 PM
In my opinion, the ball joints at the elbows of the T-1000 are very ugly.
They are not as hidden as the T-800.

This destroys the overall impression.

The face Sulpt is very nice.

I hope for a 18 "T-1000 and another 7" figures.

I think NECA is starting to move away from 18"ers and doing 12" figures instead. Costs on these figures have just kept going up, I don't its as profitable as it once was to make 18" figures. Plus 12" is my prefered scale so there is cross-over options with SS/HT figures. Like a liquid metal T-1000 :pray:

DiFabio
05-31-2010, 05:01 PM
Like a liquid metal T-1000 :pray:

You better stop doing that to yourself Buttmunch. Maulfan too. You guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment.

I'd love a 12" Liquid Metal T-1000 for the same reason you guys want one, to go with my Hot Toys figures. Well, that and it would be pretty damn cool. But I think the chances of that happening are VERY slim. It would be nice, but I wouldn't count on it.

We know NECA isn't thinking "how about we put out a liquid metal 12" figure since Hot Toys probably won't do one". We don't even know if they have a 12" T-1000 on their mind. If they do, we know damn well it would be a regular one before the silver version. They'd probably make it as a companion piece for the 12" Pescadero Terminator.

I have my fingers crossed but I don't expect it to happen. Our best bet would be for them to make a regular 12" one and then customizing it with silver paint (thought personally, I wouldn't do that since I'm against customizing my things).

MaulFan
05-31-2010, 05:01 PM
I think NECA's sticking 90% with the 7" scale, at least in America, I'd wager most collectors interested in the 18" scale aren't content enough with NECA quality, even if it's only $50, and won't buy them, and it's pretty big and pricey for the teenagers going to the mall with their friends spending a little spare change.

Buttmunch
05-31-2010, 05:05 PM
You better stop doing that to yourself Buttmunch. Maulfan too. You guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment.

I'd love a 12" Liquid Metal T-1000 for the same reason you guys want one, to go with my Hot Toys figures. Well, that and it would be pretty damn cool. But I think the chances of that happening are VERY slim. It would be nice, but I wouldn't count on it.

We know NECA isn't thinking "how about we put out a liquid metal 12" figure since Hot Toys probably won't do one". We don't even know if they have a 12" T-1000 on their mind. If they do, we know damn well it would be a regular one before the silver version and the reason for them making it would be to go with the 12" NECA Pescadero Terminator.

I have my fingers cross but I don't expect it to happen. Our best bet would be for them to make a regular 12" one and then customizing it with silver paint.

Actually I wouldn't put it past them thinking that. They made the HUGE Balrog for LotR that was in scale with the Toybiz figures. So they've done it before, but I do know what you mean. If the liquid metal was such a huge seller, it wouldn't be a SDCC for the 7". But I suppose a full-color 12" Galleria Mall version would be just fine as it could be chromed (by someone more talented that me).

MaulFan
05-31-2010, 05:07 PM
I don't think sales so much dictates the chrome one being SDCC as much as probably complexity of the paint application and producing less of them.

DiFabio
05-31-2010, 05:12 PM
Actually I wouldn't put it past them thinking that. They made the HUGE Balrog for LotR that was in scale with the Toybiz figures. So they've done it before, but I do know what you mean. If the liquid metal was such a huge seller, it wouldn't be a SDCC for the 7". But I suppose a full-color 12" Galleria Mall version would be just fine as it could be chromed (by someone more talented that me).

That's true. They did make that Barlog after Toy Biz canceled theirs. I don't think their intention making it was to give collectors a Balrog for their 6" Lord of the Rings figures though. Maybe it was, who knows.

If NECA makes a 12" T-1000, I hope it's the liquid metal cop version. I doubt it because of the above reasons, but I want it regardless. If that's impossible then atleast a regular Galleria cop 12" figure. That way collectors could throw on some chrome for the desired effect and I'd atleast have a 12" T-1000 to go with the other two 12" figures they made.

a-dev
05-31-2010, 05:47 PM
What do you have to do to paint figures in chrome? I've tried it before but the stuff never dries, it comes off on anything it touches, attracts dust and micro-hairs forevermore.

Spraying a Galleria T-1000 chrome would be easy if not for this.

Platty
05-31-2010, 05:54 PM
I bet you could actually get it chrome plated at one of the places that do it. I live near one. They chrome plate anything. From car bumpers to ipod covers. Things a lot smaller than a 12" figure, that's for sure. Probabaly dear though.

ludwing
06-01-2010, 12:27 AM
I hate this vac metallized finish NECA uses with some of their accesories.If you have some Kill Bill figures (with katanas) you probably know why i say this. The paint stick out of the object and you find yourself with your fingers covered with tiny pieces of that thing..and let's not talk about the awful effect it causes of a figure to wield a sword that has half of his paint missing.. I mean, if they paint the T1000 this way, they better do it well, because a t1000 with paint issues would be a disaster

DiFabio
06-01-2010, 12:47 AM
I don't know if SWH posts here on sideshow but he posted the run down on the new T-1000 figures with some nice comparison pics on thefwoosh.

http://www.thefwoosh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=59162&start=330

Scroll down a bit, you can't miss them.

Well, I'm excited. I always thought the Movie Maniacs one was fantastic, but as you can see from his pics the new NECA version blows it away. I'm not surprised. I'm not going to get rid of the original though, it still fits with the 2 in one feature and it's unique parts (pretzel man and doughnut head). I'm not into the whole "obsolete", sell/trade thing.

Can't wait to get a few of both T-1000 figures in the next couple of weeks. I plan on atleast 2-3 of each to make every possible combination. I was thinking of passing on the 3D Across Time and Steel Mill T-800 but I'll probably cave and buy them too. I have a soft spot for T2 3D merch because I had those special edition Kenner figures with the correct movie paint applications as a kid.

Then it's on to the Liquid Metal SDCC exclusive and hopefully a teaser or official pics of the Hot Toys T-1000.

MaulFan
06-01-2010, 04:14 AM
Going by the photo, the McFarlane one looks about equal to the NECA, NECA's does look a bit better but not hugely. Given a decent price, I'd still pick up the McFarlane. The NECAs are going to require a little heat application to straighten the stabbing finger and the hook arms though, can't leave them all limp looking.

Platty
06-01-2010, 04:40 AM
The T-1000 is looking good

PharOOO
06-01-2010, 06:15 AM
I wonder if the stabbing arm on the McFarlane T-1000 figure can be popped off & replaced with the NECA normal T-1000 figure to have a more accurate representation from that scene. I think the McFarlane figure used a ball joint in the arm socket if I'm not mistaken. Actually, I'm also thinking of a total torse swap out. Use the McFarlane legs with the NECA upper torse to get a T-1000 with biker boots from the steel mill scene. Lots of possibilities.

selektiv
06-01-2010, 06:36 AM
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab208/Shane_Hero/T1000_01.jpg
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab208/Shane_Hero/T1000_02.jpg
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab208/Shane_Hero/T1000_06.jpg

ludwing
06-01-2010, 07:57 AM
Switching parts between McF/NECA version would be extremely difficult. McF figure used swivel joints everywhere: head,shoulders,wrist,waist,biceps while the NECA figure features ball joints in arms. Also,the paint scheme seems to be different (darker in the NECA version, i think) so it would be really difficult to get a good looking combination of both figures. I hope this wave is succesful enough so they could make a fourth one. I think a Steel-Mill t-1000 with donut head and biker boots is a must

selektiv
06-01-2010, 12:00 PM
____ty scale but great likeness, package: http://www.figures.com/forums/attachments/news/6784d1275415721-terminator-2-series-3-t-1000-packaged-1neca-t-1000-packaged.jpg

a-dev
06-01-2010, 12:12 PM
I wonder if the stabbing arm on the McFarlane T-1000 figure can be popped off & replaced with the NECA normal T-1000 figure to have a more accurate representation from that scene. I think the McFarlane figure used a ball joint in the arm socket if I'm not mistaken. Actually, I'm also thinking of a total torse swap out. Use the McFarlane legs with the NECA upper torse to get a T-1000 with biker boots from the steel mill scene. Lots of possibilities.

Well, the bullet damage on the McFarlane figure corresponds to the scene when Sarah almost blasts him into the molten steel but runs out of ammo just as she has him at the edge. So if you could put the NECA head on and a normal left arm you could convert the McFarlane into an accurate T-1000 from that particular part of the steel mill sequence. I'm going to investigate the possibility of doing that. If it can be done then I will also look into giving that now headless Neca Galleria T-1000 the mcFarlane donut head. It would then almost be accurate to the donut head scene, only problem being the lack of motorcycle cop's trousers and boots.

a-dev
06-01-2010, 01:44 PM
What the hell? The following in italics was posted by someone at that "Fwoosh" link:

frankly i am not thrilled at needing to buy three versions of T-1000 and then having to extensively rebuild and modify him to create the figure NECA should, could, but won't make.

What figure is that exactly? I really wonder what this guy is talking about because I don't see how NECA could have approached this any differently than what they have done. What figure should they have made that wouldn't have required 'rebuilding' and 'modification'? Is he suggesting that one figure should have somehow incorporated everything thats offered across the 3 T-1000s they've made? Talk about unrealistic expectations.

Buttmunch
06-01-2010, 02:14 PM
Most people at the Fwoosh are just whiny babies.

Maybe he's talking about a Steel Mill T-1000? :dunno

a-dev
06-01-2010, 02:30 PM
Anyone seen shots of the Pescadero T-1000 from behind yet? I'm wondering if they sculpted the exit wounds. There should be, he definitely had them in that scene, I checked the other night.

MaulFan
06-01-2010, 05:26 PM
Before all of these figures started coming out, I didn't realize there were exit wounds on his back, but now I started to notice them, but it's only from shotguns, the pistol hits just get stuck in him and never come out, you even hear wet sounds when Sarah's shooting him in the Pescadere Garage.

a-dev
06-01-2010, 05:35 PM
The Pescadero figure in box:

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/t-1000pescaderobox.jpg

DiFabio
06-01-2010, 05:38 PM
Man, that is an impressive figure.

Platty
06-01-2010, 05:42 PM
Pretty damn good!

Voorhees27
06-01-2010, 05:49 PM
Are these still proto pics or the actual thing?

MaulFan
06-01-2010, 05:51 PM
In hand shots.

Voorhees27
06-01-2010, 05:52 PM
In hand shots.

Wow. I must say i'm very impressed then. I will pick up one of the two forsure.

MaulFan
06-01-2010, 05:53 PM
For the scale and price, you really can't go wrong with the NECA figures.

Voorhees27
06-01-2010, 05:56 PM
For the scale and price, you really can't go wrong with the NECA figures.

Imo the Arnold's face paint and sculpt is not good, even for the price. Likeness maybe but the paint isn't good at all. This on the other hand looks sweet. Especially the eyes.

MaulFan
06-01-2010, 05:57 PM
Yeah, it does look better in the paint department, but, in hand, at the 7" scale, the Arnold figures look good, not great for closeup photos (except the Pescadero one) but at scale they look good.

Voorhees27
06-01-2010, 06:03 PM
Yeah, thats true. So they did 2 versions of the T-1000 then? Normal and split head?

Buttmunch
06-01-2010, 06:04 PM
The Pescadero figure in box:

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/t-1000pescaderobox.jpg

I think this packaging shot shows why they wanted to include a headling head. The exploded head would have just looked weird packaged on the figure. "Look Mommy! A police man with a blowd up head! I wants it!" :lol

The only down side is you'd have to buy a second Galleria T-1000 to have a 'normal' head on the Pescardo figure. Dang I may have to get at least 2 of each of these guys for some variations.

MaulFan
06-01-2010, 06:07 PM
Yeah, thats true. So they did 2 versions of the T-1000 then? Normal and split head?

Yup, and the 3rd, SDCC exclusive Chrome version of the normal figure.

Voorhees27
06-01-2010, 06:14 PM
Yup, and the 3rd, SDCC exclusive Chrome version of the normal figure.

Hmmmmm, ____ I think I need to backtrack and get them all MOC. I think they would be more fun to collect in packaging.

MaulFan
06-01-2010, 06:20 PM
Mine are all out, they look great with the weapons set up and poses arranged how you like, I've never been a fan of sticking with how the packaging people want'd to put them in.

DiFabio
06-01-2010, 06:44 PM
I'm a MOC collector guy. Any figure I like and buy I usually get a second to open and display loose (Obviously not the case with Hot Toys).

With this Terminator line however, I ALWAYS open them. The packaging isn't even bad. I LOVE that iconic image from the poster with the dark tone, the blue lighting, the red eye, death on a motorcycle. I just can't resist opening them up though. I'm not a fan of the clamshells that NECA uses either. There's no saving them.

The biggest thing for me is that they aren't unique from package to package other than the info on the back. If they had character art, personalized information and other unique qualities, I'd have MOC versions to go along with my loose collection.

If I want the same effect, I'll look up at my T2 poster. I'll be opening ALL of these just like I did with the last two waves. They're just too good to keep in the packaging.

a-dev
06-01-2010, 06:46 PM
Well as some of you might predict I'll be going fairly insane with these guys. I have to now in order to justify the million T-800s I bought. I'm looking to have a corresponding T-1000 for quite a few of those Arnies.

Maulfan in your experience do these initial packaged examples of the figures have superior paintjobs to what ultimately ends up on the shelves? It sure looks like it to me.

Buttmunch
06-01-2010, 06:49 PM
I believe these are production figures, so that is what you should see, but of course paint differs figure to figure at this scale.

DiFabio
06-01-2010, 06:50 PM
Maulfan in your experience do these initial packaged examples of the figures have superior paintjobs to what ultimately ends up on the shelves? It sure looks like it to me.

I think those ones above will be similar to the figures we'll be receiving. Those ones on ebay looked REALLY bad. Since they did come from asia I would imagine that some worker pulled a few poorly painted/mishandled ones from out of the factory and decided to sell them. They looked really awfu; whereas these new shots and the pictures from collectors that have them look terrific.

Voorhees27
06-01-2010, 06:51 PM
I dunno, i'm sure its just me but at this scale IF i've ever bought them i've always kept them MOC. Of course i've always opened the occasional one. I have a huge lot of Jakks Pacific "Rocky" figures ............... 98% of them MOC.

We'll see.

Blade3327
06-01-2010, 06:52 PM
Hey, any of you guys want to go into FlashChat on here? We seem to have a ton of people online right now... no one ever uses that thing :(. Half the time, it's empty. The other half, it's like two people saying things with awkward silence in-between... right before the inevitable "I gotta go."

DiFabio
06-01-2010, 06:55 PM
Hey, any of you guys want to go into FlashChat on here? We seem to have a ton of people online right now... no one ever uses that thing :(. Half the time, it's empty. The other half, it's like two people saying things with awkward silence in-between... right before the inevitable "I gotta go."

"You wanted me? Here I am."

Blade3327
06-01-2010, 06:57 PM
"Now you will DIE."

DiFabio
06-01-2010, 07:01 PM
I went back and looked. The Wave 1 pictures didn't look any different from what we ended up getting. I bet both T-1000 figures look just as good if not better in person.

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/generated/NECA/Terminator%202/T800PEPackaging__scaled_600.jpg

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/generated/NECA/Terminator%202/T800EndoPackaging__scaled_600.jpg

yourbuststop
06-02-2010, 03:10 PM
I like the NECA T-1000 figures better than the old McFarlane ones.

DiFabio
06-02-2010, 06:29 PM
More pics. It's getting closer.

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/9/4/7/8/2/webimg/378107226_o.jpg

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/9/4/7/8/2/webimg/378109496_o.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs556.snc3/30414_455786134127_183655149127_6060835_6537282_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs556.snc3/30414_455786139127_183655149127_6060836_5239325_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs516.ash1/30414_455786184127_183655149127_6060841_5733339_n. jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs516.ash1/30414_455786144127_183655149127_6060837_5024132_n. jpg

Voorhees27
06-02-2010, 06:32 PM
Holy crap is that an excellent likeness (T-1000)

DiFabio
06-02-2010, 06:38 PM
Oh, Devo this one is for you. No exit wounds.

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/9/4/7/8/2/webimg/378107284_o.jpg

Voorhees27
06-02-2010, 06:47 PM
Ok, yeah, both T-1000's are must buys.

Boba Ben
06-02-2010, 06:48 PM
I'm probably going to get this at Toys R Us.

Platty
06-02-2010, 06:49 PM
The T-1000 figures are better than I was expecting and I had very high hopes for them. Everything looks 10/10, even the paint. You got any more pics of the new T-800 pics Difab? Looks like there's no bandolier afterall.

The Battle Across Time Arnie is growing on me a lot.

klocket
06-02-2010, 06:53 PM
I don't really buy this scale anymore...but the T-1000 look to good to pass up...still one of the best on-screen villains ever!

M.

DiFabio
06-02-2010, 06:59 PM
You got any more pics of the new T-800 pics Difab? Looks like there's no bandolier afterall.


http://mikes-images.com/misc/t2/images/t2_mq_315.jpg

"Trust me." The asian sellers for some reason don't include it. I'm guessing because they swipe it off the assembly line.

All the packaged shots and most of the figures on ebay have the bandolier. Not to worry.

a-dev
06-02-2010, 07:01 PM
Oh, Devo this one is for you. No exit wounds.

NNNNOOOooooooooo!! There should be exit wounds, they were most definitely there in the film.....but easy to miss I guess. They didn't film him from behind in any shots but if you study the scene carefully you can see he has exit wounds on his back just barely visible.

Apart from that omission these T-1000s look fantastic. Good paintjobs on all those examples by the looks of it.

MaulFan
06-02-2010, 07:06 PM
The exit wounds were a strange thing, if you watch the very end where Sarah unloads the shotgun on him, at one view he's taking hits with no exit wounds, then they cut to a different angle of him and they're there.

There's really no blatant shots of them in the movie though, unless someone brings it to your attention and you go looking for them, you can easily not notice them there, plus, because they were a practical effect, there was never a hole showing to indicate the bullet went through, it looks like a mini crater instead of blast through like his eye was. I've spent the whole time since T2 came out up until the past year or so never realizing he had exit wounds in countless viewings of the movie.

a-dev
06-02-2010, 07:09 PM
I possibly would never have noticed only for the fact that the McFarlane figure had them. You never got that one if I recall correctly?

Just thinking, I have an expendable McFarlane torso that I messed up back in the day by trying to spray it chrome. I might try to transplant some of his exit wounds onto the NECA.

PharOOO
06-02-2010, 07:16 PM
The T-1000 (Gallaria slighly over Pescadero ) is definitely my most antcipated figures of 2010. Followed shortly thereafter by the NECA's Predator & Predator 2 figures in July and Play Arts' Big Boss due out in sometime in June/ July.
It's going to be a great Summer of figures!

MaulFan
06-02-2010, 07:24 PM
I possibly would never have noticed only for the fact that the McFarlane figure had them. You never got that one if I recall correctly?

Just thinking, I have an expendable McFarlane torso that I messed up back in the day by trying to spray it chrome. I might try to transplant some of his exit wounds onto the NECA.

No, I never had any of the McFarlane T2 figures, the T-800 looked so bad and I wouldn't have gotten the T-1000 without it so once hte T-800 sucked I stopped paying attention.

a-dev
06-02-2010, 07:43 PM
With the Neca head the McFarlane T-800 is excellent. You won't get that pose out of the Neca Steel mill figure. You probably still aren't feeling a need to go back and get him but if you did I still see him available on BBTS...$22.99 though. No T-1000 however.

MaulFan
06-02-2010, 07:47 PM
T-1000 I do want to go back and get but that's like $50 on eBay so I've been in no rush, and while yeah, you can update the McF now, that didn't factor in years ago when it came out, it was either accept it as a crappy portrait or don't, I chose don't.

DiFabio
06-02-2010, 07:52 PM
T-1000 I do want to go back and get but that's like $50 on eBay.

No way you could easily get that sucker for 20 or much less. Loose and MOC. In fact, I suggest you do it. NOW!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Movie-Maniacs-T2-T-1000-figure-/120575281819?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c12d8ca9b

a-dev
06-02-2010, 08:01 PM
T-1000 I do want to go back and get but that's like $50 on eBay so I've been in no rush, and while yeah, you can update the McF now, that didn't factor in years ago when it came out, it was either accept it as a crappy portrait or don't, I chose don't.

Oh definitely try to get the T-1000. For the exploded torso if nothing else. I don't think NECA will be doing that, certainly can't see HT doing it. So McFarlane's will likely be the only option if you want that represented in your collection.

MaulFan
06-02-2010, 08:05 PM
Thanks for the eBay link, and I actually like the McF for the donut head more than the split torso.

DiFabio
06-02-2010, 08:08 PM
Thanks for the eBay link, and I actually like the McF for the donut head more than the split torso.

No problemo. I really recommend it. You might want to think fast though, it looks like someone just put in an offer for it (June 2nd, just a few minutes ago. Probably a freak :lol).

Good luck.

MaulFan
06-02-2010, 08:10 PM
Even if I miss this one, I'm sure there'll be others. I've been searching for McFarlane T-1000 but that auction doesn't even say that, so I should add different words. I wish eBay could be standardized with listing words, but everyone lists as different things, sometimes not even knowing the proper name of what they're selling, and you can miss auctions because you didn't type the right words.

DiFabio
06-02-2010, 08:14 PM
Yeah, there will be. They always come up. You shouldn't have any problems getting this guy for less than 20 dollars shipped.

MaulFan
06-02-2010, 08:15 PM
It's all about timing sometimes with eBay. There was a Godzilla model kit I've wanted for years, and everytime it came up, it'd go for hundreds, I got it a while back for like $60, just got to be willing to wait for a bargain.

PharOOO
06-03-2010, 11:48 AM
Anyone see these in comic or specialty shops today?

ludwing
06-03-2010, 12:24 PM
Hey guys, for all of you that don't like the new steel mill version of the T-800 because he can't be posed with the right arm bended in the right angle, there's a solution, but i'm afraid you have to get your hands dirty...the fact is that it's not an articulation issue,but a sculpting one. If you cut a little piece of plastic from the upper arm (just in the articulation) you can make the arm reach any angle you want..however it won't look too good when the arm isn't bended, unless you re-sculpt it. If you don't mind keeping him in that position,it's a great solution

crazypredator2
06-03-2010, 12:29 PM
Even if I miss this one, I'm sure there'll be others. I've been searching for McFarlane T-1000 but that auction doesn't even say that, so I should add different words. I wish eBay could be standardized with listing words, but everyone lists as different things, sometimes not even knowing the proper name of what they're selling, and you can miss auctions because you didn't type the right words.

I have the mcfarlane t-1000 one mint on card,i will sale $21 delivered.

Batfreak
06-03-2010, 12:42 PM
awsome, are these like just starting to hit now?

Platty
06-03-2010, 12:48 PM
Hey guys, for all of you that don't like the new steel mill version of the T-800 because he can't be posed with the right arm bended in the right angle, there's a solution, but i'm afraid you have to get your hands dirty...the fact is that it's not an articulation issue,but a sculpting one. If you cut a little piece of plastic from the upper arm (just in the articulation) you can make the arm reach any angle you want..however it won't look too good when the arm isn't bended, unless you re-sculpt it. If you don't mind keeping him in that position,it's a great solution
I was thinking of doing something like that, thanks mate, it's good to know it works. Any pics?

The Rider
06-03-2010, 01:08 PM
I think NECA is starting to move away from 18"ers and doing 12" figures instead. Costs on these figures have just kept going up, I don't its as profitable as it once was to make 18" figures. Plus 12" is my prefered scale so there is cross-over options with SS/HT figures. Like a liquid metal T-1000 :pray:

Well Neca is made even more 18 "figures such as Jason from the remake.
What is better sells I think nobody knows, not even himself Neca ^ ^
Furthermore, I've discussed many times.
Ultimately, it is only a matter of opinions.
I think in 18 "Sculpts come much better than before.
Some characters like the Predator will see in 18" from just bigger and better.
The problem with Terminator, is not fit the 12 "figures to 18" Endo.

a-dev
06-03-2010, 02:45 PM
Hey guys, for all of you that don't like the new steel mill version of the T-800 because he can't be posed with the right arm bended in the right angle, there's a solution, but i'm afraid you have to get your hands dirty...the fact is that it's not an articulation issue,but a sculpting one. If you cut a little piece of plastic from the upper arm (just in the articulation) you can make the arm reach any angle you want..however it won't look too good when the arm isn't bended, unless you re-sculpt it. If you don't mind keeping him in that position,it's a great solution

Yeah I figured that was the problem too, nothing to do with the type of articulation, only the physical obstacle to its range of movement.

Still, I'm perfectly happy with the McFarlane figure for recreating that cool pose.

By the way, I don't think he posted it in here but member Johnny Utah said in the Hot Toys T-800 thread I think that Neca man Randy Falk hinted at more Terminator figures on the Neca twitter page or something. I'm not on twitter so I don't have access.

Johnny Utah
06-03-2010, 03:20 PM
He said the sales of Series 3 will lead to other Terminator plans they have. Of course, I asked him to elaborate, and he said while there would be nothing to show at SDCC, there might be an announcement. T1 baby!!!

ludwing
06-03-2010, 03:24 PM
Oh,i asked him yesterday via twitter if fourth series will depend on the success of the third one, and he answered me that it may depend on some other project related with Terminator....i can only think about T1 or Terminator Salvation, probably T1. I hope they make a Kyle Reese figure!

a-dev
06-03-2010, 04:44 PM
The best representations of Arnie as T2 T-800 at high-end and low-end. 2009 and 2010 shall be years long remembered for the terminator fanatic.

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/uploadIMG_19462.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/uploadIMG_19463.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/uploadIMG_19466.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/uploadIMG_19464.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/uploadIMG_19465.jpg

In a way I wish the Neca one had been able to have the spotlight for longer, its a deserving and excellent figure for the low-end market, the best poseable Terminator action figure we'd ever had and so long after the film first came out. But Hot toys have not allowed Neca to keep the crown for long. I have minor nitpicks about the Hot Toys figure (nose not vertical enough and slightly too short) but I must admit it is the one to have. Really, if you think it looks good in pictures (and admittedly sometimes I thought it didn't) you won't believe your eyes to see it in person. Just phenomenal. Its pros outweigh its few negatives and the price difference shows when you put it alongside the Neca....so I may keep them seperate in my collection afterall. However the Neca is keeping the HT rosebox, I think it looks great with it.

crazypredator2
06-03-2010, 04:52 PM
if neca would just step up on their paint jobs,
there is where their arnie falls short imo, great likeness, cheap looking paint job.

a-dev
06-03-2010, 05:13 PM
The neca sculpt is great and the facial dimensions are more accurate than HT, but yeah the paint and that rough surface texture spoil it if you put it alongside the Hot Toys. It comes across as cartoony compared to the incredibly realistic skintones and the eyes of HT T-800. Having said that I'm not going to suddenly turn my back on the Neca stuff, I love it, I love the 7" scale. You can build a huge collection, create all the looks from the film at significantly less cost than trying to buy multiples of the HT figure to do the same. And they only look cartoony if you put them next to HT. Take them by themselves and they're fine. They look great.

DiFabio
06-03-2010, 05:52 PM
Well yeah. Why would anyone mix lines? The Hot Toys figures are good for the price and purpose they serve, high end collectibles and the NECA figures are good for what they are, low end.

I don't know about you Devo but I hate it when other collectors are like "Meh, the NECA one is crap, the Hot Toys one is better." From a general collectible stand point, that may be true. I think what people forget to take into account though is that, on one hand you have a somewhat limited $150 + collectible and on the other a mass produced $12 figure. They're the best of both worlds. Does one have to be deemed superior while the other, inferior?

I really, really like NECAs Arnold headsculpt. I know people would never agree with me but I think its better sculpt wise going by these pics and owning one. I think if you sent a plain old NECA head to Hot Toys and they somehow casted it in their plastic and hand painted it we'd have the definitive sunglasses look.

With that said though, I don't even own the Hot Toys one, so how can I talk? I'm on the fence with it. I REALLY REALLY wanted it when I saw the specs but then all these in hand pics flooded in and it just looks off. Small head, dark features around the eyes, a noticeable gap between the neck and head (why didn't they just use a neck post). Basically all the gripes you had Devo.

Since it appears we have (or had since you now have one) the same issues with the HT headsculpt do you suggest I buy one? I know things are better in person (I HATED how HT Two-Face and Cop Joker looked until I owned them) but there is something about that head that really throws everything off. My plan was to wait and see if they make a new clean V2 head and just buy the necessary parts for the pre-pescadero look. I'm taking a gamble, but so are the people that are buying with a possible update.

crazypredator2
06-03-2010, 06:22 PM
i'm looking forward to neca's predator lines.
their predator 1 has ht beat on likeness, i hope they do a 1/6 one.

Matt S
06-03-2010, 07:01 PM
Is the Hot Toys one on the left or right?



just kidding

a-dev
06-03-2010, 07:16 PM
I don't know about you Devo but I hate it when other collectors are like "Meh, the NECA one is crap, the Hot Toys one is better." From a general collectible stand point, that may be true. I think what people forget to take into account though is that, on one hand you have a somewhat limited $150 + collectible and on the other a mass produced $12 figure. They're the best of both worlds. Does one have to be deemed superior while the other, inferior?

I agree. It disappoints me when I see people saying 'now I can get rid of that Neca figure'. It sounds ungrateful for Neca after they became the first company to end almost 20 years with no decent poseable T2 figures that definitely looked like what they were supposed to be straight from box.. Yes there were statues, busts and PFs but nothing really for the action figure enthusiast.
So I do feel an attachment to Neca's line. It derives from my love and nostalgia for the McFarlane 7" T2 figures (which were more like statues in figure form). They were the first Terminator figures I owned since the Kenner ones, there was finally an attempt to make them look like what they were supposed to look like (lack of arnie likeness excepted)..and in turn Neca came along, bettered and improved upon those in all the important ways - useful articulation thats still well hidden and of course by actually having the likeness rights. Despite having moved up to high end 1/6th Neca's T2 line made me jump right back into the classic 7" sized figures.

No one has to say that one is better than the other (HT versus Neca). However when you've got two figures based on the same subject matter coming out at the same time it kind of inevitably comes into play. "Which one will I get?" Well me I buy both because I'm a T2 nut and I have zero self discipline with my money. :D But for others its kind of called upon to decide which is more worth having.
If we do get into making a decision on which is better I admit that it would be foolish to actually say that the lower end Neca is better than the higher end HT. But then even in the great debate I had with Nam I was never saying such a thing. I was only saying that objectively there were some things right about Tankman's headsculpt that aren't quite right about Yulli's sculpt and this I still believe is true. Equally objectively I think I see beautifully realistic subtleties in Yulli's sculpt that, if they are present on Tankman's one, may be unfortunately muted by the paint or the sandpaper skin texture.


I really, really like NECAs Arnold headsculpt. I know people would never agree with me but I think its better sculpt wise going by these pics and owning one. I think if you sent a plain old NECA head to Hot Toys and they somehow casted it in their plastic and hand painted it we'd have the definitive sunglasses look.

I would love to see Tankman's sculpt given a HT finish and paintjob. I agree, with the more accurate vertical dimensions of Neca T-800s face, the sunglasses look better on it. With the sunglasses on the HT things look a bit too squashed in the centre of his face if you compare it to a film still. Is the Neca actually a better sculpt? Well its got the dimensions in its favour, its hair is equally well done and it doesn't have the annoying neck joint at the base of the skull. But the Hot Toys has the high-end finish and eyes that really look like they were plucked from Arnie's head and reduced to 1/6th scale. Also I think it has the mouth area better than the Neca one. Neca's figure, I dunno, the jaw is too puffed out or something - it looks like a permanent 'concentration' face such as he would make while firing the shotgun - now this may have been deliberate in which case this is exactly what Arnie looks like while discharging the shotgun in the mall corridor...but something more neutral might have been preferred.

Maybe Tankman's sculpt would definitively be better if it had a high-end finish, I am certainly capable of entertaining that notion. Right now though the HT one both looks enough like Arnie in its raw sculpt and has the high end finish so its hard not to go with HT if you have to choose.


With that said though, I don't even own the Hot Toys one, so how can I talk? I'm on the fence with it. I REALLY REALLY wanted it when I saw the specs but then all these in hand pics flooded in and it just looks off. Small head, dark features around the eyes, a noticeable gap between the neck and head (why didn't they just use a neck post). Basically all the gripes you had Devo.

Since it appears we have (or had since you now have one) the same issues with the HT headsculpt do you suggest I buy one? I know things are better in person (I HATED how HT Two-Face and Cop Joker looked until I owned them) but there is something about that head that really throws everything off. My plan was to wait and see if they make a new clean V2 head and just buy the necessary parts for the pre-pescadero look. I'm taking a gamble, but so are the people that are buying with a possible update.

My feelings are thus: I was looking at a lot of pics of the Hot Toys T-800 figure and considering starting a thread in the General Collectibles forum entitled "Afraid to speak your mind in the midst of rabid HT fanboyism?" Because I thought it looked very underwhelming in a few pics. Excellent in some properly taken, properly futzed and posed pics but fairly meh in the pics of a few other people who were perhaps impatient in taking photos (like me) or who just don't seem to have an eye for when something looks stupid in a photograph! Those same criticisms you mention were all going through my head and I just didn't want to risk saying them in the MMS117 thread.

Now I have the figure and I believe anyone who says 'pics don't do it justice'. My nitpicks are just out the window. I suppose I can't say for sure yet that this isn't just 'new toy boner' talking. Furthermore as a T2 fanatic and completist RE: poseable figures from said film its not a purchase I would ever regret anyway even if my nitpicks did come to the fore again. All I know is a few bad photos don't matter with this figure in my hand.

DiFabio
06-03-2010, 07:36 PM
Well I'm leaning closer to just buying the damn thing. I have 5 of them on my ebay watch list. I have two doubts. The first obviously being the Yuli headsculpt and also the possibility of Hot Toys producing an even better "clean" head with the proper neck/head joint (perhaps as a Cyberdyne version). Money isn't an issue when it comes to this Batman and Terminator stuff, I just don't want to waste it and go through the hassle of trying to convince myself that it was worth the money if I don't like it.

Sigh, I'm probably going to buy it within the week. The more I think about it and the more I discuss it there are more positive reasons for me to buy the Hot Toys version. You've pretty much convinced me that I need to own this, especially since we're like minded and neutral on the whole "which is better and definitive" issue.

Even if I really love the Hot Toys version when I get it I'm not the kind of person that will turn around and sell all my NECA 6" and 7" stuff. Hell, I have a few Kenner figures from the 90s T2 and T2:3D line that I've kept out of nostalgia.

Thanks for the comments man. I'm sure by the end of the week I'll have a Hot Toys T-800 paid for and on the way. I guess it can't really hurt having T2 spanning from Movie Maniacs, Cult Classics, Minimates and Hot Toys. Should make for a great Terminator 2 Judgement Day set up.

a-dev
06-03-2010, 08:57 PM
Well I'm leaning closer to just buying the damn thing. I have 5 of them on my ebay watch list. I have two doubts. The first obviously being the Yuli headsculpt and also the possibility of Hot Toys producing an even better "clean" head with the proper neck/head joint (perhaps as a Cyberdyne version). Money isn't an issue when it comes to this Batman and Terminator stuff, I just don't want to waste it and go through the hassle of trying to convince myself that it was worth the money if I don't like it.

Sigh, I'm probably going to buy it within the week. The more I think about it and the more I discuss it there are more positive reasons for me to buy the Hot Toys version. You've pretty much convinced me that I need to own this, especially since we're like minded and neutral on the whole "which is better and definitive" issue.

Even if I really love the Hot Toys version when I get it I'm not the kind of person that will turn around and sell all my NECA 6" and 7" stuff. Hell, I have a few Kenner figures from the 90s T2 and T2:3D line that I've kept out of nostalgia.

Thanks for the comments man. I'm sure by the end of the week I'll have a Hot Toys T-800 paid for and on the way. I guess it can't really hurt having T2 spanning from Movie Maniacs, Cult Classics, Minimates and Hot Toys. Should make for a great Terminator 2 Judgement Day set up.

I'll be very interested to hear your thoughts if and when you do get it and good or bad.

Certainly I know what you mean about the HT headsculpt. In some shots he looks too aged with too many lines and shadows. I've always thought his nose is angled slightly wrong, the bridge is slightly too short and possibly he may have too much of a power-brow (to go against Necas overdone power-jaw). I won't say that the pictures are lying but as easy as it is to look at the figure in an unflattering light its easier still to look at it from another angle and say 'thats a miniature Arnold Schwarzenegger right there'.

The small head issue is, if not completely fixable, at least acceptably fixable by bringing the jacket collar in tighter. Our perception of it seems to be linked with the amount of T-shirt on show down the middle. Also maybe worth noting is the HT head is, far as I can tell, the same size as the Neca one.

The other issue I've heard is the legs seeming too long, I dunno bout this one. Maybe but its not something leaping out at me. However what I may experiment with one day is beefing up the legs a bit. It might make the legs appear shorter should I decide they ought to be. The Neca figure's legs are thicker and don't make him look like a freak so I suspect the HT ones could stand to have a bit more meat on them and only make the figure look better.

ludwing
06-04-2010, 03:51 AM
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Here you got a couple of pics of Arnie's improved elbow articulation. Crappy pics, i know, they were taken with the camera of my phone but you can see the idea. I tried it on an extra t800 i got to put the alternate BD head on (the one which is less BD), and be able to make a Steel Mill version, but now that NECA is releasing him officially and i will get him,i didn't care if the experiment had gone wrong. Also,I didn't cut all the material i could (just a test), so i guess you can manage to rise his arm more. I think it's OK like that.What do you think?

Platty
06-04-2010, 05:54 AM
That'll do me! Great job ludwig.

Platty
06-04-2010, 06:01 AM
Difab, buy the HT T-800. It's what you were born to do. :lecture

Nah but seriously, a lot of people are saying it's Hot Toys' best ever figure. It's from Terminator 2. It's arnold. 'nuff said :D

Platty
06-04-2010, 07:09 AM
Are there any Packaged shots of the Steel Mill, Battle Across time Arnies and the Pescadero T-1000 floating about?

selektiv
06-04-2010, 08:18 AM
The best representations of Arnie as T2 T-800 at high-end and low-end. 2009 and 2010 shall be years long remembered for the terminator fanatic.

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/uploadIMG_19462.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/uploadIMG_19463.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/uploadIMG_19466.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/uploadIMG_19464.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/uploadIMG_19465.jpg

In a way I wish the Neca one had been able to have the spotlight for longer, its a deserving and excellent figure for the low-end market, the best poseable Terminator action figure we'd ever had and so long after the film first came out. But Hot toys have not allowed Neca to keep the crown for long. I have minor nitpicks about the Hot Toys figure (nose not vertical enough and slightly too short) but I must admit it is the one to have. Really, if you think it looks good in pictures (and admittedly sometimes I thought it didn't) you won't believe your eyes to see it in person. Just phenomenal. Its pros outweigh its few negatives and the price difference shows when you put it alongside the Neca....so I may keep them seperate in my collection afterall. However the Neca is keeping the HT rosebox, I think it looks great with it.

The NECA have better likeness, but he Hot Toys have better paint.

Matt S
06-04-2010, 08:21 AM
I love the NECA 12" figure. Tankman sculpt rocks (no shock there), but the paint apps for the head/hands were lacking. Removable glasses with painted eyes would have been nice

Series600
06-04-2010, 08:37 AM
Does it still look right if you lower his shoulder a bit? The pistol was lower than the top of his head in the movie.

selektiv
06-04-2010, 08:41 AM
Neca bring us an 18" of the Pescadero with a better paint and everyone is happy, but personally i think the paint on the 12 is good enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyOiCPs22KE

ludwing
06-04-2010, 09:01 AM
Yes, i didn't touch the shoulder articulation so you can lower the arm. I'll try to get a couple of pics later of this. The negative part is the awful look it has when you unfold his elbow..It doesn't look too bad and i guess some paint or even sculpting could fix it completely.

Geil
06-04-2010, 12:45 PM
http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/51.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/52.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/53.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/54.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/55.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/56.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/57.jpg

http://www.swmmedia.com/NECA/T2/58.jpg

Wow these look actually quite good too when you apply your photoskills to it!

Platty
06-04-2010, 12:54 PM
The 7" versions of Arnie are where it's at. No one can dispute how good they are. No one. It's the 12" figure where Neca runs into criticism. Many on here are used to fully clothed, poseable and realistic figures. Coming across the neca the're bound to think "what the hell is this!" Fortunately though there are people who can see it for what it is, a $40 figure, and damn good for that price.

I'm happy to have it in my collection, I know that much!

necronomic
06-04-2010, 01:03 PM
Maulfans Photos are good but this is 7" inch and it looks bad!
I see directly the difference betwen 7" and 12"
because the quality in compare to the 12" is :monkey4
The same story like with the Pescadero.

MaulFan
06-04-2010, 01:06 PM
I actually think just within NECA the 12" has issues, I don't know why but to me the 12" Pescadero looks lesser than the 7", I wish the 12" looked like the 7" does to me.

Geil
06-04-2010, 01:06 PM
Yeah I am going backwards and saw some not so pretty Terminators so those were 7" I assume?

Update: ok now I am confused .... The good-looking ones are the 7" ?

necronomic
06-04-2010, 01:15 PM
No the 12" are better , but the best quality neca bring always with 18"

7" have almost bad likeness and the probem is NECA did too many in last time i hope this will change soon. :monkey4

a-dev
06-04-2010, 03:34 PM
I actually think just within NECA the 12" has issues, I don't know why but to me the 12" Pescadero looks lesser than the 7", I wish the 12" looked like the 7" does to me.

I'd be the opposite, I think the 'stretched' look of the 12" compared to the 7" looks more accurate to his real proportions.

MaulFan
06-04-2010, 05:22 PM
Yeah I am going backwards and saw some not so pretty Terminators so those were 7" I assume?

Update: ok now I am confused .... The good-looking ones are the 7" ?

My photos are of the 7", I've not taken photos of the 12" figure.


I'd be the opposite, I think the 'stretched' look of the 12" compared to the 7" looks more accurate to his real proportions.

Maybe, but I look at the 7" and I think it looks fantastic, and I look at the 12" and it looks like a different figure rather than just a larger version of the small one, and I prefer the look of the smaller one.

Platty
06-04-2010, 06:20 PM
The smaller ones can get away with the sculpted clothes, paint apps etc. The 12" one can but just barely. The 7" inch are just better for some reason. I think the figures suit the 7" style more than 12".

a-dev
06-04-2010, 09:06 PM
The smaller ones can get away with the sculpted clothes, paint apps etc. The 12" one can but just barely. The 7" inch are just better for some reason. I think the figures suit the 7" style more than 12".

When theres 12" alternatives like the HT one out there then yeah, the non-completist would be advised to skip Necas one and maybe instead go for the 7"ers. But if there was no HT figure I would deem the 12" Neca as essential. I did feel it was a better representation than Sideshow's. Some here I know disagree, they have a similar attachment to that figure as I have to these ones.

I wonder if Neca will bother putting out any more T2 12"ers. I know they serve different markets of spender-power (though not with mutual exclusivity) but even as it was I think I remember Tankman saying that sales of the 12" Pescadero weren't as good as they were expecting and that thats why the 12" Final Battle got delayed while they tried to give the Pescadero more time to sell through....or something. So I have doubts whether we'll see any 12" T-1000 from them.

necronomic
06-05-2010, 06:07 AM
When theres 12" alternatives like the HT one out there then yeah, the non-completist would be advised to skip Necas one and maybe instead go for the 7"ers. But if there was no HT figure I would deem the 12" Neca as essential. I did feel it was a better representation than Sideshow's. Some here I know disagree, they have a similar attachment to that figure as I have to these ones.

I wonder if Neca will bother putting out any more T2 12"ers. I know they serve different markets of spender-power (though not with mutual exclusivity) but even as it was I think I remember Tankman saying that sales of the 12" Pescadero weren't as good as they were expecting and that thats why the 12" Final Battle got delayed while they tried to give the Pescadero more time to sell through....or something. So I have doubts whether we'll see any 12" T-1000 from them.


cannot even compare the two, the sideshow version is just terrible.http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/T2-T800_Sideshow-3.jpghttp://www.janespalstoys.com/arnie1.gif

What is this, schwarzenegger ? definitly NO
You must be under hard drugs to see Schwarzenegger here
No even for 2$ dollars

necronomic
06-05-2010, 06:21 AM
When theres 12" alternatives like the HT one out there then yeah, the non-completist would be advised to skip Necas one and maybe instead go for the 7"ers. But if there was no HT figure I would deem the 12" Neca as essential. I did feel it was a better representation than Sideshow's. Some here I know disagree, they have a similar attachment to that figure as I have to these ones.

I wonder if Neca will bother putting out any more T2 12"ers. I know they serve different markets of spender-power (though not with mutual exclusivity) but even as it was I think I remember Tankman saying that sales of the 12" Pescadero weren't as good as they were expecting and that thats why the 12" Final Battle got delayed while they tried to give the Pescadero more time to sell through....or something. So I have doubts whether we'll see any 12" T-1000 from them.

Necas own fault, who wants have these little figures, here in europe via internet nobody buy 12", and i uderstand this!

Neca bring only 7" and 18" figures in the past and now 12" ?!?! WHY for what, nobody is so stupid and jumps to the 12" format.

This is a asskick for many many people, specialy for 18" Collectors

a-dev
06-05-2010, 06:50 AM
I suppose it must be annoying for an 18inch collector that Neca all of a sudden stopped short of putting out the iconic T2 Arnie in that format.

Personally though I'm not interested in 18". Too big, they'd require a whole different system of shelving than the rest of my stuff and not enough characters would ever get made for my liking so ever since 18" Endo and Robo I just haven't gone there.

As for the Sideshow, well sure it looks awful now but when it was all we had I was able to appreciate it more. I just think it got owned in 2009 and moreso again now in 2010...as is just the natural progression of things.

DiFabio
06-05-2010, 08:43 AM
Necas own fault, who wants have these little figures, here in europe via internet nobody buy 12", and i uderstand this!

What?


Neca bring only 7" and 18" figures in the past and now 12" ?!?! WHY for what, nobody is so stupid and jumps to the 12" format.

I'm that stupid. I got both of them.

The 18" figures are cool. I bought their 18" Endoskeleton when it first came out and loved it. But you know what, right now it's laying on a box, undisplayed. It's too large to fit on a shelf and there aren't too many 18" figures. I've looked into Robocop but it's like "meh, what am I going to do with this".

I'm probably in the minority but I love the 12" Pescadero T-800 and 12" Battle Damaged T-800. I'm a fan of 12" figures and prototype 2-Ups so these were obviously must haves. They're the right size and easy to display, not too big and not too small. I have no problem with them. While I would buy an 18" Arnold in a heartbeat I'm not so sure I'd like it at as much as the 7" and 12" format. Plus I'm sure the detail and sculpt would be off having it blown up a few inches more.

I'm perfectly content with these 7" and 12" figures (spanning from the hero Terminator and villain Terminator and two iconic versions of the hero in the latter size), minimates (tons of combinations and characters and the only way to get Miles Dyson) and Hot Toys.

We have 2" figures, 7" figures, 12" 2-ups and 12" high end. What more could we ask for? An 18" figure that would just collect dust? No thanks.

Platty
06-05-2010, 10:03 AM
I'd buy an 18" Arnie. I know what you're getting at with not enough space to display it but if people can display 1:1 busts and have them look good, i'm sure there is a way. When i've seen the 18" neca stuff in shops like the Muhammed Ali and Freddie Mercury, they look like they would look cool in a collection.

ludwing
06-05-2010, 05:31 PM
Some 18" figures are cool.I only have one, the NECA's FreddyvsJason Freddy and he's on his box as well since i don't have a place to display it. I prefere having a shelf full of 7" figures. With this i'm not meaning 18 " are not cool..an Arnie t-800 in this scale would be epic. I hope guys at NECA think about it seriously and deliver it to all fans of this huge figures.And, by the way,make some changes, like removable glasses and add the Winchester+handgun, so you can display him from different moments from the film

selektiv
06-06-2010, 05:06 AM
18" looks much much better, if i have the choice between 1:1 Arnold or 7inch Arnold i preffer the 1:1 , small figures are boring and looks boring no matter how good the scuplt is.

ludwing
06-06-2010, 08:04 AM
Well, that's your opinion and i don't think the same way. I wonder how is an action figure "boring"? i can say 18" are boring because they usually stay alone on a shelf, while 7" you can pose them together, make a dioramana or recreate scenes from a movie.

selektiv
06-06-2010, 08:29 AM
Well, that's your opinion and i don't think the same way. I wonder how is an action figure "boring"? i can say 18" are boring because they usually stay alone on a shelf, while 7" you can pose them together, make a dioramana or recreate scenes from a movie.

Well, thats your opinion, in my eyes 12" und spacially 7" are for children.
Necas figures from Movies should be 18" and not 7inch like : http://thedailysb.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/he-man.jpg

or 12" like : http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr21/Sha_Do8/barbie.jpg

a-dev
06-06-2010, 08:57 AM
Well, that's your opinion and i don't think the same way. I wonder how is an action figure "boring"? i can say 18" are boring because they usually stay alone on a shelf, while 7" you can pose them together, make a dioramana or recreate scenes from a movie.

Exactamundo! :clap

I don't begrudge anyone their 18", but 7" and 12" will always get a greater range of figures and thus greater interraction between figures.

Selektiv you may just have to bite the bullet and start buying the smaller scales if you want to continue collecting. Not saying its right but 18" may be on the way out. If they now won't make Arnold Schwarzenegger in 18" I'd say that makes the chances of anything else fairly slim.

MaulFan
06-06-2010, 09:15 AM
I think NECA's size selections are probably based on figure prices, their customer base and what other companies make.

I think they committed to the T2 12" T-800s before knowing HT was stepping up and may not have if they'd known, they probably figured, their competition at the time was the Sideshow figures, their 12" T-800s would have some appeal, and they were right, I got the Pescadero 12" figuring it was the best chance to have a nice looking T-800 at the scale, but I probably wouldn't have gotten it if I'd known about the HT line, not that for what it is, the NECA 12" is no good, just no sense spending the redundant money, and I would still have all the 7" NECA figures. Likewise, they probably didn't explore 18" T2 because, whether you like it or not, Sideshow already tackled that with the PF, so there was a competitive product. Their 7 inch scale only has old McFarlane figures to compete with and by having likeness for Arnie, they already have an edge of McFarlane, plus doing multiple figures.

The 7 inch line is very affordable for the younger consumers that frequent shops in the U.S. where NECA is primarily sold, their size allows consumers to buy more and take up less space and it's easier and more cost effective to build a whole line. NECA's larger stuff has always been a figure here or there, but there's never been a line of them, 7 inch is the only scale to get numerous figures from a property.

selektiv
06-06-2010, 09:19 AM
Maybe NECA wanna end like Mcfarlane :

2001 (18inch) ;

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/p1hnH1kyKKPKZZI.jpg

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/eLrds6fjkWdA4Pt.JPG

2010 (7inch) :

http://www.figures.com/forums/attachments/news/5706d1273067701-mcfarlanes-prince-persia-sands-time-1dastanclose.jpg

http://www.figures.com/forums/attachments/news/5702d1273066751-mcfarlanes-prince-persia-sands-time-1dastansmall.jpg


Neca are on the same way.

ludwing
06-06-2010, 10:05 AM
I have to diagree with everything you say. Saying (and excuse me for this,but it's just as i feel it) "Well, thats your opinion, in my eyes 12" und spacially 7" are for children." is just a huge proof of ignorance. Also, saying today that NECA is going down,and compare it to McFarlane(nowadays,not years ago) makes me think (honestly) that you don't know what you're talking about. You seem to be a fairly dissapointed customer because companies dont' work on the scale you like to collect anymore. Ok,it's fair you complain, but get over it and don't look down on other people that are getting what they want from these companies,and are happy with it,man.

selektiv
06-06-2010, 10:18 AM
Exactamundo! :clap

I don't begrudge anyone their 18", but 7" and 12" will always get a greater range of figures and thus greater interraction between figures.

Selektiv you may just have to bite the bullet and start buying the smaller scales if you want to continue collecting. Not saying its right but 18" may be on the way out. If they now won't make Arnold Schwarzenegger in 18" I'd say that makes the chances of anything else fairly slim.


You kidding me, never !! The only one i have in 12" is;

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/Qr07tYgpq12rC40.JPG



....because billy 12" fits nicely with my 18" figures, 1/4 would be too big for the little puppet.

Valfar
06-06-2010, 10:20 AM
Maybe NECA wanna end like Mcfarlane :

I don't get this comment, both these companies gained a lot of attention for their highly detailed smaller scaled figures, its not like they started out selling 12 and 18inch figures.

I have no room/desire for 18inch figures/staction figures but, plenty for some well detailed 12inch ones to blend in with my many other 1/6th figures. Select 6-7inch Neca figures do interest me though as well,especially their Terminator line.

a-dev
06-06-2010, 11:31 AM
@ Maulfan's post-

Yes I agree, I too suspect Neca would not have chosen 12" if they had known Hot Toys were jumping on the bandwagon so soon after. For this reason, and the possible reason of slow/reduced sales, I can't see them releasing the 12" T-1000. I just think it would have been announced by now. The 12" T-800s were announced at the first outset of the 7" line IIRC.

@ Selektiv -

Well yes we all know how much McFarlane has gone downhill and particularly so if those Prince of Persia figures are anything to go by. They look no better than a Hasbro figure. But if you're suggesting that thats what Neca's 7" figures are akin to then I disagree. I see much better quality in what Neca is doing lately...probably because McFarlanes best sculptors jumped ship when they saw how mystifying TMPs decisions and license choices were becoming.

Sachiel
06-06-2010, 11:40 AM
The sculpt and paint on the PoP figures look a lot better than a Hasbro figure.

Well, except for the faces. :o

Also, selektiv. You're still collecting toys. ;)

But whatever makes you sleep at night. :cool:

a-dev
06-06-2010, 11:55 AM
I dunno, to me it looks like a step-down from what they used to do. Either that or it shows that Hasbro have upped their game.

necronomic
06-06-2010, 01:05 PM
I think we will never See again so great 18 figures like;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_imGEsAfpig&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WaCkXmuBEs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbuB7-l6fMI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdB0ARosNwI&feature=related

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uDQv17dj_y4/SVxcrA5ROPI/AAAAAAAAADM/Bd_YFIRJtkE/s1600/The%2BCrow.jpg

http://s1.directupload.net/images/100118/ekwci2v5.jpg

http://s10b.directupload.net/images/100118/dclv7crf.jpg


Neca deteriorated significantly in the last years, sculpts and paint- jobs can´t keep up with the products from 2004-2007

selektiv
06-06-2010, 01:28 PM
I wanna 18" Predator like the million people from europe !

Neca made 18" Alien so now we want 18" Predator, logical or ?

Here on the board we have few NECA people maybe 20x, but i speak for the million People outthere and they wanna 18"

Sachiel
06-06-2010, 01:29 PM
Millions? :lol

metroz
06-06-2010, 02:31 PM
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Matt S
06-06-2010, 02:41 PM
This threads gotten a little......passionate

metroz
06-06-2010, 02:42 PM
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metroz
06-06-2010, 02:43 PM
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This figure is just outstanding,
so many great details.


Rating: 10/10

metroz
06-06-2010, 02:56 PM
Part 2 (Pescadero 12")
Click on Picture to make it bigger


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_t4LxdWvnOko/SnxePjlin0I/AAAAAAAADVU/dM3Sc3zRvUE/s1600/terminator_2_pescadero_escape0019.jpg

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selektiv
06-06-2010, 03:23 PM
100% movie accurate figures...
Battle Damaged 12" rulez but Pescadero ist great too.


I hate Neca so much, both look so great, a shame to detroy this figures with a Kiddie-size (12")

a-dev
06-06-2010, 03:26 PM
Why isn't the '100% movie accurate' bit enough for you? Why must the scale be so important? Its not like anything less than 18" is invisible.

villainsfan42
06-06-2010, 03:29 PM
100% movie accurate figures...
Battle Damaged 12" rulez but Pescadero ist great too.


I hate Neca so much, both look so great, a shame to detroy this figures with a Kiddie-size (12")

they did it purposely, with the soul intention of pissing you off.
bestards! :mad:

Sachiel
06-06-2010, 03:38 PM
He sure likes the big ones. :monkey3

selektiv
06-06-2010, 03:41 PM
Why isn't the '100% movie accurate' bit enough for you? Why must the scale be so important? Its not like anything less than 18" is invisible.

12" is a Barbie format, no. Sry, but i didnt like the size, thats all.
When you collecting 18" figures you cannot accept small 12" , impossible

a-dev
06-06-2010, 03:46 PM
Well you seem to love this figure so much despite it only being available as a 7" or 12". It just seems very strange that you constantly promote a figure you refuse to buy because of its scale.

villainsfan42
06-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Well you seem to love this figure so much despite it only being available as a 7" or 12". It just seems very strange that you constantly promote a figure you refuse to buy because of its scale.

http://www.ipprospective.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/troll-web.jpg

seriously, i'm willing to bet this guy has never bought a figure in his life. he's one of those people who goes to sites with the soul intent of starting an argument. aka, a troll.

a-dev
06-06-2010, 03:59 PM
BANNED! Until next time. I think any new members who start acting even remotely Selektiv-like should be instantly banned because it'll probably be him again under a new name.

villainsfan42
06-06-2010, 04:01 PM
12" is a Barbie format, no. Sry, but i didnt like the size, thats all.
When you collecting 18" figures you cannot accept small 12" , impossible
YYYYYYYYYYYYOU'REE OUTTA HEREEE!!!!!!!! :hi5:

BANNED! Until next time. I think any new members who start acting even remotely Selektiv-like should be instantly banned because it'll probably be him again under a new name.

YES! maulfan, all other mods, and dave...please take this into consideration. :wave

thenammagazine
06-06-2010, 04:06 PM
BANNED! Until next time. I think any new members who start acting even remotely Selektiv-like should be instantly banned because it'll probably be him again under a new name.

That might just be the mandatory 2-week ban for 5 infractions though. And if so, like Arnie, he'll be back. Sooner if he makes a new account. I seriously think this is the same dude who got banned for doing this same thing in the Freddy thread, Jason thread, and the Terminator thread about 6 months ago.

MaulFan
06-06-2010, 04:06 PM
Guys, there are details about everyone on the web that are like signatures of who you are, we've had members try to come back as other names and are banned again for it and if they try to much, are banned without any chance to ever come back to this site.

Selektiv has been temporarily banned and will be back, so do not start talking behind their back, that's no better than what they post, just move along.