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Master Wayne
01-14-2010, 11:47 PM
Looks nifty.

theshape6
01-15-2010, 12:19 AM
imo, his head looks alittle small for his body and he looks like his left eye is closed

DARK-SIDE
01-15-2010, 03:53 AM
new pics added !!!!!

Toni Plutonij
01-15-2010, 08:12 AM
Looks really good to me! Very nice idea to hide the switch in the chest!

Sined
01-15-2010, 08:19 AM
Thanks for sharing DARK-SIDE! :)
Looks great for it's money.

a-dev
01-15-2010, 09:51 AM
The LED looks great. To be honest the delay and the prospect of a HT version has dampened my enthusiasm for this a little but I'm still getting it and it will be a keeper. The sculpt is fantastic. And I still can't wait to see NECAs next 7" offerings.

Bezzerkerr
01-15-2010, 11:15 AM
The LED light is pretty bad ass.

i will be picking this up if and when it comes available

Cobra King
01-15-2010, 11:45 AM
looks great though i would have put the button on the back of the figure

Platty
01-15-2010, 12:44 PM
Looks awesome, will go nicely with the pescadero version.

Sweeeet!!!! :chew

galactiboy
01-15-2010, 12:51 PM
Looks pretty good... but for a second I was hoping this would be a 12" Endoskeleton.

Bezzerkerr
01-15-2010, 01:04 PM
a $39.99 12" Endo would kick ass...who knows...it could happen

where's Tankman?

Wolf873
01-15-2010, 01:05 PM
Looks good. I don't know if I should get it though 'cause of Hot Toys, they might release it soon enough.

snoop101
01-15-2010, 01:07 PM
:dump.............???

galactiboy
01-15-2010, 01:11 PM
a $39.99 12" Endo would kick ass...who knows...it could happen


I'm thinking it eventually will... they've released an 8" and 18" version; why not make a 3rd that's 12". I know they'd have a guaranteed crowd pleaser; I'd likely buy one or two for extra Endo fun :rock

A.L.I.E.N
01-15-2010, 03:39 PM
Has anyone got a pic of the first Neca 12" Arnie compared to a HT endo for scale?

a-dev
01-15-2010, 04:00 PM
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC09343.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC09355.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC09341.jpg

A.L.I.E.N
01-15-2010, 04:06 PM
Cheers :rock so the scale is close enough for me! :borg

LChinoz
01-15-2010, 04:17 PM
That thing looks amazing!

a-dev
01-15-2010, 04:18 PM
Oh yeah definitely. The HT endo looks like it could fit inside the NECA Pescadero with exception of its feet and skull being a bit too big. The arms may also be slightly too long aswell - as they also were on the McFarlane and NECA Endos I believe - too long to theoretically fit inside the arms of fleshed Arnie figure I mean.

One of my concerns about the new T-800 actually is that it won't be to scale with the current HT endo because the figures HT are putting out today are slightly smaller than the early MMS - smaller heads and feet etc. Its why I'm hoping they'll do a new smaller endo - in addition to correcting some innaccuracies, adding more detail to the hands and feet and of course chroming him up.

A.L.I.E.N
01-15-2010, 04:21 PM
Oh yeah definitely. The HT endo looks like it could fit inside the NECA Pescadero with exception of its feet and skull being a bit too big. The arms may also be slightly too long aswell - as they also were on the McFarlane and NECA Endos I believe - too long to theoretically fit inside the arms of fleshed Arnie figure I mean.

One of my concerns about the new T-800 actually is that it won't be to scale with the current HT endo because the figures HT are putting out today are slightly smaller than the early MMS - smaller heads and feet etc. Its why I'm hoping they'll do a new smaller endo - in addition to correcting some innaccuracies, adding more detail to the hands and feet and of course chroming him up.

So it can't really fit inside can it? :lol :borg

Platty
01-15-2010, 04:32 PM
The pescadero 12" is a massive figure.

Sined
01-15-2010, 04:42 PM
The pescadero 12" is a massive figure.
For sure. It's REALLY bigger than average human-male character from HT. And what's the most important - this guy really looks great. It's cheap-ass figure but it's a fantastic representation of Arnold as T-800.

a-dev
01-15-2010, 04:42 PM
So it can't really fit inside can it? :lol :borg

I was hoping for a feature whereby NECA would have enabled the HT endo to literally fit inside the Pescadero Arnie but apparently thats too much to ask :confused:

But yeah alas those parts of the endo aren't a perfect scale with the NECA. However everything else corresponds sizewise and locationwise. I was pleasantly surprised by how good a match they are.

Platty
01-15-2010, 05:10 PM
For sure. It's REALLY bigger than average human-male character from HT. And what's the most important - this guy really looks great. It's cheap-ass figure but it's a fantastic representation of Arnold as T-800.
Yeah. I plonked him next to my Daniel Craig Bond figure before and he's slightly taller yet massively bigger in frame. One good thing is Hot toys seem to want to make their Arnold T2 figure massive as well. He is 2cm taller than the usual figure and a lot wider. If he is similar in size to the neca 12" then, happy days!!!

As you say, a cheap figure and a great representation of arnie. It makes me equally as happy as a hot toys or sideshow fig and no doubt the battle damage version will do the same!

a-dev
01-15-2010, 05:31 PM
The rosebox from the HT one is going to my NECA Pescadero 12" if its the correct size. It'll be more accurate with the black-shirt and those mall scenes are pretty much what the NECA is modelled off anyway. And if it looks alright the NECA shotgun will go to my HT T-800 as I think the HT one is too small.

Johnny Utah
01-15-2010, 06:12 PM
The next DX is supposedly this so I'll wait.

A.L.I.E.N
01-16-2010, 04:10 AM
The next DX is supposedly this so I'll wait.

For the money though it will be a nice place holder! :borg

Morbach
01-16-2010, 09:52 AM
I'm getting this and the dx. Thanks for sharing, I love it. I've had it on pre-order for a few weeks now, so I'm glad to know it is coming out. :duff

Morbach
01-16-2010, 09:54 AM
My 7" bd version arrived on monday and it's awesome. Very glad I got it.

EndoSickness
01-16-2010, 12:19 PM
Not bad, but I think I´m not going to get him, since Hot Toys will do there´s with light-up for sure and I have the 6" variant.
Just a little re-painting of the face and he will look as great as this...

snoop101
01-16-2010, 04:04 PM
This will be a Definite Buy for me!!! He looks Awesome!!:monkey5

Wolf873
01-17-2010, 01:05 PM
Wait a minute, so there is a DX coming of this from Hot Toys?

a-dev
01-17-2010, 01:20 PM
Not trying to be a smartarse but isn't that obvious? There was no way HT was ever going to get the T2 license and not make the BD version.

EndoSickness
01-24-2010, 04:15 AM
AND I have the theory that they combine the DX with the BD variant, means: I think they´ll put the last phase BD in with PERS (which means rotateble endo eye...that would be the best) and cyberdyne phase BD, maybe with gatling and grenade launcher, so that TECHNICALLY all would be there, considering you´d have the first T-800 with rosebox and stuff.
When there´s comin´a exclusive with shirt, you could go with 2 and have it all...

EndoSickness
01-27-2010, 06:32 AM
Since it´s about NECA and 12" I put it here:
I wondered about something a few weeks ago, while unpacking my Sig. T-600.
There was the cardbox holding it and another bigger one over it for shipping and it read:
NECA Marcus 12" Version 2 ?!?!
Mistake or was it a prototype shipping where the cardbox became publically handled and is there something coming?
Cause NECA said that 2010 new Terminator figures were coming...

Johnny Utah
01-27-2010, 06:33 AM
Probably a reference to their Marcus Fenix figures from Gears of War.

EndoSickness
01-27-2010, 07:02 AM
Ahhhh, sure.
He´s avaiable in 12 "...right. Forgot about that since I´m not that into Gears.
Thx.

DARK-SIDE
02-03-2010, 02:20 AM
it's released !!!
but I won't get it when the spring holidays' over.

Bezzerkerr
02-04-2010, 05:11 PM
I can't believe my eyes.

12" FINAL BATTLE .... IN STOCK @ BBTS.com

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=nec11264&mode=retail

I am very excited!

a-dev
02-04-2010, 10:59 PM
Excellent. Looking forward to finally getting this and crossing it off what remains of my once huge 2009 preorder list. So far for 2010 I've only ordered my 2 clean HT T-800s. Somehow I'm predicting that will change after Toyfair.

HottoyzJoker
02-04-2010, 11:09 PM
Just ordered mine... :) :) :)

ironmann
02-07-2010, 01:28 AM
I finally picked it up today, It has very good quality for the price!:chew

a-dev
02-07-2010, 11:52 AM
Thanks for posting those pics. Doubt I'll have mine tomorrow but later in the week perhaps. Hope it won't have any paint issues.

Bezzerkerr
02-09-2010, 12:49 PM
i just saw it in person

KICK ASS FIGURE, i like it better than the 12" PESCADERO

HottoyzJoker
02-09-2010, 08:35 PM
Ill be getting my Final Battle Damage T-800 tommorrow... :) :) :)

crazypredator2
02-10-2010, 09:17 AM
where is the battery conpartment at, and are there screws showing?

HottoyzJoker
02-10-2010, 09:11 PM
where is the battery conpartment at, and are there screws showing?

Behind jacket screw can not be seen...

crazypredator2
02-10-2010, 09:27 PM
Behind jacket screw can not be seen...

thanks my friend, glad they have it hidden .

HottoyzJoker
02-11-2010, 04:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBXv5tyF-B8
My review of the Final Battle Damage on youtube...

a-dev
02-11-2010, 05:32 PM
A box arrived for me today, a bit bigger than I expected for a 12" NECA figure but I figured there was probably just a whole lot of extra padding inside. My FB T-800 did ship on Monday. But anyway it was my Hasbro AT-ST walker from Forbidden Planet. That one came in under the radar! It wasn't supposed to be instock till march according to the site.

So I don't have this figure just yet but if not tomorrow then monday maybe.

On watching that youtube video it struck me that this figure's stance is probably a bit too erect. By that point in the film Arnie was stooping and leaning constantly whereas this figure looks like its as though the T-800 didn't self terminate at the end of T2 and was able to restore its power levels. Not a big complaint for me because the sculpt is just incredible and they did have to recycle parts from the basic non-bd figure.

Cannot wait until Toyfair to see more NECA T2 stuff.

crazypredator2
02-11-2010, 05:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBXv5tyF-B8
My review of the Final Battle Damage on youtube...

Good review, wished you would have shown him from behind too.

MaulFan
02-11-2010, 07:40 PM
On watching that youtube video it struck me that this figure's stance is probably a bit too erect. By that point in the film Arnie was stooping and leaning constantly whereas this figure looks like its as though the T-800 didn't self terminate at the end of T2 and was able to restore its power levels. Not a big complaint for me because the sculpt is just incredible and they did have to recycle parts from the basic non-bd figure.

I agree, it's the one flaw with NECA, the recycling of parts can result in figures not being all they can be. I disliked how the Wolf was the same from the neck down and just different heads basically, and weapons. It's a little boring that all the T-800's look fairly identical, but that's the price of getting a variety of figures from NECA, so I'll take it. The BD T-800 does end up looking a bit too functional with so much of him smashed to hell, but as you said, the detailing on that damage is so nice you can overlook his posture.

a-dev
02-11-2010, 08:02 PM
Are the NECA Conan figures worth getting? I see them still available. Does anyone here have those? My hesitation is I think I recall them having some wierd orange skin disorder. But the Arnie likeness looks great on the promo-photos that various sites use.

Johnny Utah
02-12-2010, 06:41 AM
I have the first wo, getting the Temple of the Serpent version soon. They rock! A must for any Schwarzenegger fan.

Platty
02-12-2010, 11:11 AM
Their conan figures do look good, especially the war paint version.

At Toy Fair I can't wait to see what neca have coming up, not just Terminator but in general.

As for Terminator, i'm really hoping we see a 12" Cyberdine figure. After the pescsadero version it's the one I wanted to see the most! After that, hopefully we see some T-1000 or T1 figures.

a-dev
02-12-2010, 08:38 PM
Well, it seemed like BBTS were on their last Temple of the Serpent Conan figure (as in it only allowed me to order 1) so I ordered that plus a 'preorder' for the series 1 figures - warpaint version & gladiator version. Then I went to the pub. Now having come back from the pub I'm feeling extra enthused about getting these Conan figures. I do hope BBTS is indeed getting more of series 1 and that it wasn't just the case that the site hadn't been updated. It'd annoy me to have the serpent figure and not the others. Furthermore I hope I don't get one with a dodgy paintjob or poor QC - thats the reason I originally was trying to order 2.

xenoviper
02-13-2010, 05:50 AM
Received it few days ago...
Excellent figure ... i like it!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/nimbus1/IMG_5007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/nimbus1/IMG_5008.jpg

crazypredator2
02-13-2010, 06:09 AM
should get mine tuesday.

Boba Ben
02-14-2010, 10:25 AM
Here's a pic of the new T-1000 from NECA. It's a liquid metal version. I think it looks pretty cool.

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/photo24.jpg

Credit goes to Julius Marx from Action Figure Insider

Darth Madden
02-14-2010, 10:31 AM
That does look pretty neat.

CSM1976
02-14-2010, 11:05 AM
great likeness. I hope they come out with a few of these like a painted one.

A.L.I.E.N
02-14-2010, 11:06 AM
Thats coming my way :rock

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 11:08 AM
I'm quite certain we'll likely see that exact figure in a painted, normal version as well. Looks great, glad to see T-1000 is being done and not just T-800s.

uscmbuzz
02-14-2010, 11:09 AM
Wow thats a neat version. And the details could be little off and it wouldnt matter as he is in transformation.. awesome.. I hope also they do a painted version like a 1 per case painted variant.. haha..it could be the chase figure.. haha.. or this version could be the chase..

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 11:13 AM
Here's a look at a painted one.

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECAgames/IMG_2607.JPG

And a split arms blasted head version, though it's the 2 up.

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECAgames/IMG_2684.JPG

Buttmunch
02-14-2010, 11:15 AM
And is that Jonah Hex? That would be great news! Hoefully NECA will be able to do more DC figures then! Dark Knight anyone?

And I'm thrilled the T-1000 is getting some love. I'm definately going back and getting the T-800s now! And that blasted head/hook arms could be swapable heads and arms on the regularly painted version. Or knowing how Neca handled the Wolf Pred, they are probably all different versions anyway.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 11:21 AM
Well there were 4 T-800s, 3 used the exact same legs, the 4th used a varation on the same legs, 3 used the same midsection piece, and 2 used the same exact arms and heads. There will be as much recycling among the T-1000s, but thankfully, with diffent damage and weapons, they should look different enough to not notice/care that parts are reused.

Buttmunch
02-14-2010, 11:38 AM
Very true. Sometimes it is nice to be forced to buy multiple versions because otherwise you could only have one of the various options to display at one time. This at least makes you get another figure if you want the different variations and you aren't paying more if you don't want them.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 11:44 AM
They'll be worth it too, I love the T-800s, plenty of gaps to fill in here with T-1000s :)

http://www.swmmedia.com/COLLECTION/T2_1-12-10.jpg

Voorhees27
02-14-2010, 11:47 AM
I think this looks really cool. Bravo NECA.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 11:49 AM
We'll see what happens in production, but the proto has a very true to film finish to the full metal look.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 11:57 AM
Looks like 3 T-1000s coming.

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7794.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7795.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7804.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7805.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7808.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7809.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7810.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7811.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7812.JPG

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 11:58 AM
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7813.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7814.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7815.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7816.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7817.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7818.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7819.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7820.JPG

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7821.JPG

snoop101
02-14-2010, 11:59 AM
Incredible!:banana

dcflake
02-14-2010, 12:13 PM
No Sarah Connor but thats for another series I guess.

Can anyone tell me why there is a T 800 with shades a grey shirt and a plasma rifle. When did that happen?

uscmbuzz
02-14-2010, 12:15 PM
aw man waitaminit... Are these the 2 ups for the small 7 inch stuff.. crap I thought it was 12in figures..

Darth Madden
02-14-2010, 12:19 PM
The split head one is sweet.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 12:21 PM
No Sarah Connor but thats for another series I guess.

Can anyone tell me why there is a T 800 with shades a grey shirt and a plasma rifle. When did that happen?

I'm thinking there might not be a Sarah. As for the T-800 on display, it looks like display filler, just putting a model out and with whatever weapons were handy.


aw man waitaminit... Are these the 2 ups for the small 7 inch stuff.. crap I thought it was 12in figures..

Right now, they're 12" models that'll be used for making the 7" figures. There could be a 12" figure or two, who knows, they did 2 12" T-800s.

Johnny Utah
02-14-2010, 12:22 PM
Nice, but why no motorcycle version?

Bezzerkerr
02-14-2010, 12:22 PM
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECAgames/IMG_2684.JPG

That Predator on the right is the BEST LOOKING 12" Winston Predator i've seen.

Today is a GREAT DAY for Predator fans.


THANKS FOR THE PICS! ! ! !

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 12:24 PM
Motocycle might very well be coming, they did 4 T-800s and we're only seeing 3 T-1000s. The motor look requires different parts from these 3 though, different shoes, pants, torso, head. I do hope they do it though, they've got full metal and split head, we have to at least get the eye shot out head too.

dcflake
02-14-2010, 12:33 PM
Motocycle might very well be coming, they did 4 T-800s and we're only seeing 3 T-1000s. The motor look requires different parts from these 3 though, different shoes, pants, torso, head. I do hope they do it though, they've got full metal and split head, we have to at least get the eye shot out head too.

Do you think they'll be a molten metal version like the Mcfarlane's alternate torso?

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 12:38 PM
Do you think they'll be a molten metal version like the Mcfarlane's alternate torso?

Given NECA's recycle policies, my guess is, they might do the motor look with full biker gear, no jacket and blown out eye, and split in half upper torso, that way they could reuse the legs for all 3. They could do something totally unique, but I think those 3 have the most draw.

Platty
02-14-2010, 12:47 PM
He looks sweet! Will go great with the Arnie figs.

Can some one explain to me what 2ups are please!? Cheers.

a-dev
02-14-2010, 12:51 PM
Thank you Tankman and NECA!! Those'll do nicely! 3 figures, one of which is just a repaint, isn't as many versions as I was hoping for but the most important one is there and its a beauty!

The T-1000 without battledamage was of utmost importance to me since that was his default condition throughout the film and is thus most useful to go alongside the many T-800s I bought. He looks great :banana. Well the skin looks a bit rough on the face, I'd have to check if the T-800 2ups looked like that but the likeness is definitely there, all the shapes look correct to me, the hair is the right length...the expression is definitely Robert Patrick as the T-1000, a slightly upwards stare. Not only all that but the stance is perfect! You can see its got that determined walk down exact. Just incredible. I'll buy quite a few of these! Oh and I almost forgot the articulation - happily it looks hidden as well as it possibly could be. I was worried that, without a jacket, it'd be quite noticeable particularly at the shoulders but not so. Another good point. I'm relieved that it appears to have the same jointing as the T-800. Hopefully it also has interchangeable parts.

Chrome version is likewise great, I'll use him for the Steel mill scene when he liquifies himself to outmaneuvre the T-800.

And as far as the possible Battledamage versions I was indeed hoping the split head would be amongst them. I made a custom of this out of the McFarlane figure but it broke beyond salvage. It looks really well done. I hope we can use this torso with the non-BD head too.

Overall I am pleased!

Restaurajones
02-14-2010, 12:54 PM
this t-1000 looks great and for the price many more!!! Bravo Neca :whip

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 12:55 PM
He looks sweet! Will go great with the Arnie figs.

Can some one explain to me what 2ups are please!? Cheers.

Smaller toy companies like McFarlane and NECA sculpt their figures as 12" or larger sculpts to get maximum detailing and then a shrunken version is made from that to produce the 7" scale figures. 2 up basically means twice the size of the final item.

Johnny Utah
02-14-2010, 12:57 PM
I haven't felt this stoked from seeing a 2-up since NECA's T-800, before that, McFarlane's John Locke. Kudos NECA, you guys NAILED the T-1000.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:00 PM
The body posture for T-1000 looks based of him drawing his weapon in the mall hallway before taking aim at the T-800.

Platty
02-14-2010, 01:01 PM
Smaller toy companies like McFarlane and NECA sculpt their figures as 12" or larger sculpts to get maximum detailing and then a shrunken version is made from that to produce the 7" scale figures. 2 up basically means twice the size of the final item.

Sweet, thanks mate, that's what I had in mind as to what it was but wanted to be sure!

a-dev
02-14-2010, 01:09 PM
And whats this??? -

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/main/a-sneak-peek-from-neca

Looks like another T-800

Batfreak
02-14-2010, 01:10 PM
wow, awsome!! we are getting the 2 awsomenest versions of T1000!! hopefully they also have the interchangable heads like the T800 figures, and looks like he will also have ball-jointed elbows too! means lots of cool posing possibilities. i LOVE the all-silver T1000 alot, and i the split head one is yet another cool T1000 variant that we hgavent seen yet. basically it looks like Neca is doing what Mcfarlane did not. mcfarlane alsoready made a pretty awsome "hole in the face" and "blown up" look, so really all that was left was to make a "regular" non-BD'd T1000, liquid metal variant and the split head.

HOWEVER, the only version i would have liked to see what the motorcycle version. but thats it!

Platty
02-14-2010, 01:11 PM
That is just this a-dev mate, isn't it?

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/image1.asp

Batfreak
02-14-2010, 01:14 PM
also, when are these supposed to be coming out?

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:14 PM
That is just this a-dev mate, isn't it?

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/image1.asp

Correct, it looks like they just grabbed some T-800 2 ups to have on display too, they've got one with a shotgun and plasma rifle for some reason too, and that was never on film. I think T-1000s are the only actual new products being shown.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:14 PM
also, when are these supposed to be coming out?

I would guess summer.

Platty
02-14-2010, 01:16 PM
Correct, it looks like they just grabbed some T-800 2 ups to have on display too, they've got one with a shotgun and plasma rifle for some reason too, and that was never on film. I think T-1000s are the only actual new products being shown.

Yup. Shame, I was wanting to see a 12" cyberdine figure this toy fair. Saying that, with the 2ups being 12", we wouldn't have known any difference! :lol:

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:17 PM
At first I thought they might be T1 weapons to show they were going in that direction but then I realized it was the plasma rifle from the Endo and my dream was deflated.

a-dev
02-14-2010, 01:19 PM
That is just this a-dev mate, isn't it?

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/image1.asp

Yes it is, I found those pics just after posting that link. Hmm, seems just like the custom many of us made. Only hes been given more scene-specific eyes....not sure how well that will translate to the 7" since the paintjobs on the eyes were not the first waves strongpoint.

I suppose I'd still buy that figure and transfer this 'new' head to my McFarlane figure which is currently using the existing phase 1 BD head. McFarlane's figure captures that particular pose better than the NECA figure can.

The other T-800 with the sunglasses, grey T-shirt and plasma rifle is possibly based on the T2 Battle across time thing. I'll take one.

If these T-800s are indeed figures that will be put to retail I suppose they've been added to this round to help the T-1000 sell.

Platty
02-14-2010, 01:22 PM
Doubt they'll be put to retail mate, they're probably just there to fill up some shelf space and to show off with.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:24 PM
I haven't tried to to it, but the current BD T-800 can't do that pose? I just assumed it's the 2 up of the BD T-800 with the semi BD head and the pistol from Man or Machine.

a-dev
02-14-2010, 01:24 PM
The body posture for T-1000 looks based of him drawing his weapon in the mall hallway before taking aim at the T-800.

Yeah looks like it. Those little nuances Tankman has captured are great. Also notice on the closed mandible Predator 1 head the way one of the upper mandibles is slightly off to the side as though it is twitching - just like when Dutch backhands him. Not sure if the 7"er will end up with that but I hope it does.

dcflake
02-14-2010, 01:24 PM
Can you swap arms on the current figures?

It looks like a BD T800 with Cyberdyne Showdown arms.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:27 PM
Yup, one thing NECA's good for compared to McFarlane is faithful represenations of characters. McFarlane had a tendency to go with poses that were very interesting but seemed ill-fitting for the characters, the ALIEN from McF just looks way too animated in its pose. I still hope to see NECA take another shot at Carpenter's Halloween, their first Michael Myers is nice but there's room for improvement.

The current stuff is some of their best work as far as representation of the character it's meant to reflect.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:29 PM
Can you swap arms on the current figures?

It looks like a BD T800 with Cyberdyne Showdown arms.

Wow, I'm slow, I didn't even think of that, it has to be a new 2 up, the BD had the torn arm already. Be cool if they do release the T-800s, but I'd have rathered a 4th T-1000, but it'll be nice to have a BD that's between the Cyberdyne figure and the full BD, this new look would also fit better with the semi-BD head than the current BD body, looks odd to have the semi face and the body be so beat to hell, my semi head's just sitting around off the figure.

r5150s
02-14-2010, 01:30 PM
are the preds 1/6 scale ?..if it is..it's incredible !!! where can i find more pics of it ? sorry to go off topic

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:32 PM
All of these are 1/6, but the products aren't necessarily. All NECA protos start at 12" or bigger.

a-dev
02-14-2010, 01:32 PM
Doubt they'll be put to retail mate, they're probably just there to fill up some shelf space and to show off with.

I think they might well be put to retail - if they're just there to fill up shelf space why not just display the figures that are currently available? The T-800 with the sunglasses is on a grey T-shirt body and the plasma rifle looks like it has a strap. The other figure from the steel mill scenes has to be customised from 2 of the existing figures to achieve, which many people wouldn't have gone to the trouble to do. So again I think if you're just filling shelf space all you do is put the existing figures out, not ones that appear to have changes.


I haven't tried to to it, but the current BD T-800 can't do that pose? I just assumed it's the 2 up of the BD T-800 with the semi BD head and the pistol from Man or Machine.

It can but not a precise imitation. The pistol holding arm can't go to a 45degree angle. Thats a tad ____ but since we do have the McFarlane figure in the exact pose from the film I would use that rather than the close but not totally exact NECA figure for that scene.

Platty
02-14-2010, 01:36 PM
A-dev, it doesn't make sense to me why Neca would release this:

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/image7.asp

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:38 PM
I don't remember specifically what the T-800 uses in T2 3D, but that figure could be based on it, simply to make money off existing parts from the NECA figures. It's a mix of weapons and heads from various figures, nothing new, but if it sells, then it can make money for something else. If they're doing a unique T-1000 where you can't recycle parts, this could be to help fund that. The T2 line is full of reused parts but you can't always reuse, so these T-800s could be to reuse some more and make more profit that can be put towards something that can't recycle but they want to do for fans, maybe a Sarah and John 2 pack or something.

dcflake
02-14-2010, 01:46 PM
I don't remember specifically what the T-800 uses in T2 3D, but that figure could be based on it, simply to make money off existing parts from the NECA figures. It's a mix of weapons and heads from various figures, nothing new, but if it sells, then it can make money for something else. If they're doing a unique T-1000 where you can't recycle parts, this could be to help fund that. The T2 line is full of reused parts but you can't always reuse, so these T-800s could be to reuse some more and make more profit that can be put towards something that can't recycle but they want to do for fans, maybe a Sarah and John 2 pack or something maybe a Sarah and John 2 pack or something.

I'd like to see that. I feel my shelf will be missing with all those T800s and T1000s and no Sarah Connor.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:50 PM
I can't see them making multiple Sarah's, and I can't see them doing a lone John, but together, they both might have enough selling power as a set to not end up peg warmers.

dcflake
02-14-2010, 01:53 PM
I can't see them making multiple Sarah's, and I can't see them doing a lone John, but together, they both might have enough selling power as a set to not end up peg warmers.

Saying that they did do 2 T 800 endos and I don't know about where you live but I've seen them warming most pegs they have been sitting on, so to speak.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 01:57 PM
I've found the Endo to be the peg warmer too, but I'd also call it the weakest of the figures. The Arnie ones look great but the Endo's face kinda looks goofy. I have all 4 Arnies but had no interest in the Endo. I think partly too, the Endo has been done a lot because there's no likeness to worry about, so the Arnold stuff draws more attention because we haven't gotten much ever, certainly not as well done as this. Prior to HT offering T2 figures, NECA was the best T2 figures to date, and they're still damn nice.

rad0324
02-14-2010, 01:59 PM
The Neca Endo looks really bad IMO. The body is fine but the face looks really bad. The eyes point up a bit and it makes him look like hes drunk.

a-dev
02-14-2010, 02:06 PM
A-dev, it doesn't make sense to me why Neca would release this:

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/image7.asp

As Maulfan said I think its based on T2 3D Battle across Time shortly after T2 itself came out. The outfit seems to match - grey T-shirt in combination with sunglasses and gloves and also that plasma rifle with the strap. Its not based on the film but with the existing figures they could put it together easily. I like the look of it. I'd probably buy it if it was released.

Platty
02-14-2010, 02:17 PM
Ah right, i've gotta be honest and say I have no idea what T2 battles across time is!

I now understand and can see what you mean. Still, I don't think they'll release it, but i'd liked to be proved wrong! I like your enthusiasm for all things terminator, A-dev!

I still think the 2 Arnie figures are there for no other reason than to just be there. Tankman, can you shed any light on this?

CelticPredator
02-14-2010, 02:19 PM
Battle Across time is a 3D ride thingy in Universal Studios. Its one big 4D movie. 3D film, with lights and explosions, to make you feel like you're inside the movie.

Directed by Cameron, starring pretty much everyone from T2. Arnie, Linda, Eddie and Robert. Its kickass.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 02:19 PM
It's an interactive 3D and live action show made for Universal studios shortly after T2. Arnold, Robert Patrick and Edward Furlong were brough back to film the movie parts. Unless you visit Universal Studios, the closest you can come to checking it out would be to get a T2 DVD that has the making of T2 3D on it.

xenoviper
02-14-2010, 02:55 PM
T-1000 looks great... and not to mention those awesome predators!!
One question tho... That T-1000 chrome paint job gonna be used for the mass production? Looks like chrome finish from the pics but not 100% sure if it is.

Anyway looks more shinny than the paint used for the NECA Endoskeleton.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 03:00 PM
I think NECA wants the T-1000 metal to look that shiny, but it seems like they're somewhat slaves to the factory as far as how the paint apps turn out, Kyle (tankman) is always commenting that they hope for the best but never know what the factories are going to turn out. Pretty much any company outsourcing to foreign production seems to have limits on how demanding they can be on the factory for production quality and that at some point the facotry gives them a take it or leave it situation.

I wouldn't buy the full metal T-1000 if it looked like just grey paint as the Endo looks, it'd just look like an unpainted figure at that point.

Platty
02-14-2010, 03:10 PM
If it turns out looking anything like what we've seen in the pictures i'll be happy! However for me the best T-1000 figure is the undamaged normal version. It looks great and suits the Pescadero Arnie down to the ground!

Y'know, it's a shame neca are constantly on edge about the way the paint apps will turn out on the figures they produce. The sculpts are there, which is neca's work, so i'd imagine it would be really annoying if the paint apps weren't good and represented Neca's work in a bad way.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 03:18 PM
It's not just the paint, it seems like sometimes too in the molding and production, NECA's stuff doesn't come back as nice as it goes out.

It's the price you pay, you want cheap labor you outsource manufacturing to a foreign country, but at the same time, it's usually not a factory you own, so your control over what they do is limtied.

I'd be happy with what's on display, it looks great, but the actual figure needs to have a shiny, metallic finish that at least comes close to the film look, or like I said, it then just looks like plain grey figure and more like an unpainted prototype than a finished piece and just wouldn't look nice on display amidst finished looking figures.

Matt S
02-14-2010, 05:07 PM
T1000 looks great. Hopefully production paint apps dont disappoint

Batfreak
02-14-2010, 05:17 PM
have they announced when these figures will be available? how long did it take the first wave of T-800 figures to get out after they were shown last year? and are they going to release all the T-1000's at the same time or in multiple waves with those repainted arnies?

speaking of arnie, are they actually going to be releaseing a "non-battle damaged" final battle T-800, the one where he holds his pistol and grenade launcher? that would be awsome if he did, that way we could finally have that stance and have a normal left arm.

as for paint apps, the Endoskeleton turned out fine and shiny so why should the T-1000 turn out not shiny? i trust that the figure will not look just grey.

crazypredator2
02-14-2010, 05:19 PM
it's great to see terminator and predator figures being made again,and being made right this time.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 05:20 PM
It seemed to take quite awhile after debut to get the figures, but also, Toy Fair isn't like comic con, it's a show for dealers and news sites to see what the plans are for the coming year of the manufacturers, which is why all the NECA stuff is 2 ups, I would wager that's as far as they've gone and they don't even have a finished 7" prototype.

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 06:24 PM
Pictures from Toy New International TF coverage.

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/2010_Toy_Fair/NECA//IMG_1282.jpg

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/2010_Toy_Fair/NECA//IMG_1251.jpg

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/2010_Toy_Fair/NECA//IMG_1252.jpg

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/2010_Toy_Fair/NECA//IMG_1253.jpg

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/2010_Toy_Fair/NECA//IMG_1256.jpg

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/2010_Toy_Fair/NECA//IMG_1258.jpg

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/2010_Toy_Fair/NECA//IMG_1259.jpg

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/2010_Toy_Fair/NECA//IMG_1261.jpg

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/2010_Toy_Fair/NECA//IMG_1263.jpg

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/albums/2010_Toy_Fair/NECA//IMG_1266.jpg

Batfreak
02-14-2010, 06:26 PM
more x's!.........

MaulFan
02-14-2010, 06:32 PM
http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=2010_Toy_Fair%2FNECA%2F&dispsize=600&start=0

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=2010_Toy_Fair%2FNECA%2F&start=20

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=2010_Toy_Fair%2FNECA%2F&start=40

a-dev
02-14-2010, 07:26 PM
Ah right, i've gotta be honest and say I have no idea what T2 battles across time is!

I now understand and can see what you mean. Still, I don't think they'll release it, but i'd liked to be proved wrong! I like your enthusiasm for all things terminator, A-dev!

Thanks! I do have a particular enthusiasm for Terminator, I suppose I was just the right age for T2 when it came out that it really struck a chord with me - I was 9 - not legally allowed to see it. I remember my older brothers really wanted to see it in the cinema one day but they got saddled with me and couldn't because I was too young. Of course when I saw it on video I was hooked. To be honest I'm not sure if I had seen T1 by that point which is the film I now prefer. But in any case me and my friend constantly pretended to be Terminators, arguing over who got to be the T-800 and who was the T-1000. Toywise all we had was those crappy made-up kenner figures. I always wanted proper ones that actually looked like the characters in the film, didn't give a crap about play features - it only took the better part of 20 years for this to happen! So thats my lifestory.

I've never been to this T2 3D ride, my only awareness of it is the DVD extras and photos in magazines.

xenoviper
02-14-2010, 07:29 PM
T2 3D battle across time

http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=qT1RlBIdrK8&v=uhftsj6NUZw

a-dev
02-14-2010, 07:31 PM
T-1000 looks great... and not to mention those awesome predators!!
One question tho... That T-1000 chrome paint job gonna be used for the mass production? Looks like chrome finish from the pics but not 100% sure if it is.

Anyway looks more shinny than the paint used for the NECA Endoskeleton.

I sincerely hope that chrome look gets through to mass production. Its easy to spray a figure with chrome paint but it never seems to dry, gets sticky, gathers dust, comes off on your hand and spreads to other figures if in storage. Theres obviously something I'm not doing or doing wrong.

Anyway I'm going to buy the heck out of these figures. I'll pass the time in work tomorrow planning out how many I'll need. Perhaps not as many as all the T-800s but still an inordinate amount!

However, Tankman if you're around, will there be interchangeable parts between the standard one and the BD one? If so what parts? And if its possible for you to divulge the info - are any more T-1000s planned? Sorry, I know I'm being greedy. :o

I'll go to bed now.

Cobra King
02-14-2010, 10:39 PM
cant wait to get these they look great

nicky
02-15-2010, 01:36 AM
The regualr T1000 fig is such a beautiful figure - looks great esp as it's practically a generic cop figure.

Johnny Utah
02-15-2010, 04:02 AM
The article on figures.com says there will be a T-1000 Motorcycle Cop version, but in the same sentence it elaborates saying it will have interchangeable hook hands and an alternate head. I am confused.

A motorcycle cop version would need an all new head, legs, arms and torso. Just want some clarification from someone that might know.

dcflake
02-15-2010, 04:41 AM
The article on figures.com says there will be a T-1000 Motorcycle Cop version, but in the same sentence it elaborates saying it will have interchangeable hook hands and an alternate head. I am confused.

A motorcycle cop version would need an all new head, legs, arms and torso. Just want some clarification from someone that might know.

I have no idea. The only thing that maybe interchangable with a biker T 1000 would be stumpy arms and legs as though they have broken off in the LN2 scene. Then he'd have to be gray.:confused:

Johnny Utah
02-15-2010, 04:48 AM
If NECA are making a full proper Motorcycle Cop version, I'm sorted.

DanceGavinDance
02-15-2010, 09:10 AM
I could be wrong but i think the motorcycle cop version and the split head version are the same figure, just with interchangeable parts

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 09:13 AM
All 3 T-1000s at Toy Fair were in his police uniform, none are styled based on the motor cop costume.

a-dev
02-15-2010, 01:21 PM
It wouldn't be a disaster to me if they didn't make the full motorcycle gear T-1000. I only say that because there is little film-based interraction between the T-1000 and the T-800 while he is 'wearing' that outfit - only when the T-800 climbs on the bonnet of the tanker and riddles him with bullets and in the hasta la vista scene but those would suit more for preposed dioramas including environment pieces. A normal articulated figure would sorta be a standalone figure with not much use other than to look good on a shelf for completists sake. I'd certainly take it if made but I won't be too upset if it isn't.

I just can't wait to get a proper T-1000 after so long with the McFarlane figure, which while good, is not accurate to any one scene in the film with its combination of hook arm, shotgun hit body and donut head each representing different scenes. And I never really liked the stance. However the exploded torso figure is great and still useful. It seems NECA aren't looking to repeat the versions that McFarlane made...which suits me just fine.

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 01:31 PM
I care mainly about the Biker to have the eye shot out head, to me that was as visually significant as the split head was.

crazypredator2
02-15-2010, 01:33 PM
need a 12 inch t-1000 to pose w/ my 12 inch last battle t-800 arnie.i'm sure they will do at least 2 12 inche t-1000's.

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 01:38 PM
I'm not sure we'll see any 12" T-1000s, I think Hot Toys diving head on into Terminator 2 12" and NECA's usual focus on 7" favors them just doing 7" T-1000s, but cool if they do make em. If they do, I'd like them to make the full metal one, Hot Toys won't do a figure like that, really couldn't, it would capitalize on what NECA can do that Hot Toys can't.

snoop101
02-15-2010, 01:41 PM
I like the one with the split head the best. That was always one of my favorite scenes from T2.

a-dev
02-15-2010, 02:06 PM
I care mainly about the Biker to have the eye shot out head, to me that was as visually significant as the split head was.

Wasn't that just the police officer outfit with the boots from the biker outfit brought over?

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 02:09 PM
Some information on the T2 lineup at Toy Fair from Figures.com

* T-800 (Battle Across Time) Figure will feature different hands and a phase plasma rifle.
* T-800 (Steel Mill) Figure will feature new deco and battle damage.
* T-1000 (Liquid Metal) This may possibly be an exclusive later in the year.
* T-1000 (Police Officer) This figure is based on the 1st police officer form the T-1000 takes and will include a pistol and additional hand with pointed metal finger.
* T-1000 (Motorcycle Officer) This figure will feature interchangeable mettalic hook hands and a split in half in addition to another head which was not shown

That'd stink of the silver one were an exclusive to hunt down.

As for this T-1000

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/TF2010/NECA/IMG_7817.JPG

The report makes it seem like that'll be the biker figure, but to even be accurrate to the steel mill, it'd still need a different lower body, but then that's not accurrate to the hooks and split head which was at Pescadero. This figure should ship as depicted for the hooks and head and then do 1 or 2 other figures for the motorcycle look.

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 02:10 PM
Wasn't that just the police officer outfit with the boots from the biker outfit brought over?

It's a combination of both looks. From the waist up it was the standard police costume from the start of the film, and from the waist down it was the biker pants which have a stripe down the sides and the knee boots instead of shoes.

T-1000 had 3 different core looks in T2.

a-dev
02-15-2010, 02:13 PM
Yeah that write-up is confusing. To me 'motorcycle officer' describes the helmeted version not any of the figures shown at Toyfair. What are they calling the 'split head' figure?

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 02:15 PM
They're calling the split head figure the motorcyle cop one, which is why I'm saying, that's just wrong, the motor look and those weapons and damage don't belong together. With NECA doing the variants and not mixing different parts from various scenes that don't belong together, it wouldn't make sense to do it with the T-1000. McFarlane did and it's wrong.

http://edival.net/old/toys/images/t1000.1.jpg

But any figure labelled motor cop should at minimum have the knee boots and striped pants like the McFarlane.

a-dev
02-15-2010, 02:21 PM
It's a combination of both looks. From the waist up it was the standard police costume from the start of the film, and from the waist down it was the biker pants which have a stripe down the sides and the knee boots instead of shoes.

T-1000 had 3 different core looks in T2.

Ah I thought it was just the boots. Were these actual coloured stripes or just like a seam? Because the McFarlane figure doesn't have what I would call stripes running down the pantlegs.


They're calling the split head figure the motorcyle cop one, which is why I'm saying, that's just wrong, the motor look and those weapons and damage don't belong together. With NECA doing the variants and not mixing different parts from various scenes that don't belong together, it wouldn't make sense to do it with the T-1000. McFarlane did and it's wrong.

http://edival.net/old/toys/images/t1000.1.jpg

But any figure labelled motor cop should at minimum have the knee boots and striped pants like the McFarlane.

Yeah the split head figure would more accurately be described as a 'Pescadero battle damage' T-1000. He didn't turn into the motorcycle cop till after that. Whats going on there? I don't like this uncertaintly.

a-dev
02-15-2010, 02:22 PM
Oh wait, just checked, it does appear to have a 'stripe' as shown in the picture you posted. Its not coloured though so I never really noticed it.

a-dev
02-15-2010, 02:25 PM
This figure should ship as depicted for the hooks and head and then do 1 or 2 other figures for the motorcycle look.

I very much agree, I don't want another McFarlane-esque 'blend' of different looks. I'd like the split head figure as is, can't stress that enough.

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 02:27 PM
I can't remember off the top of my head what it looks like in the movie, I just remember back when the Sideshow figure shipped and it looked like there wouldn't be anymore figures, there was a lot of talk at this site about what it would take to accurrately customize a biker T-1000 and that's how I came to realize that his pants and boots in the steel mill weren't the same as earlier in the movie when he wore the shirt, I never noticed but once it was pointd out I saw it. So, you've got:

Cop (pointy finger, hook arms, split head, bullet hits, sword arms)

Biker Cop (4 arms for helicopter pilot, nitrogen damage)

Cop/Biker Cop Hybrid (blown out eye, pointy finger, bullet hits, split torso)

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 02:29 PM
I very much agree, I don't want another McFarlane-esque 'blend' of different looks. I'd like the split head figure as is, can't stress that enough.

And I can't understand why they would mix, the T-800s are all proper, distinct representations, the only thing out of place was the pistol with Man or Machine.

I know they like to recycle, but why go through all the work for nice accurrate figures and cheap out on something as blatant as the entire lowere torso. You could do at least 2 biker figures to get use out of parts, sure the upper bodies and heads would differ but you could at least use the legs twice and one upper body and head could be from the figures shown at TF so that'd get recycled too.

Platty
02-15-2010, 02:37 PM
Holy shiz, so those 2 arnold's are getting released? :lol

a-dev
02-15-2010, 02:37 PM
So officially its really only 2 T-1000 figures - the other being a variant which might be an exclusive. Thats the one disappointment about this. I was really hoping for 4 T-1000 figures total to match the T-800 waves (as you said they could still do a lot of recycling there) while having chrome liquid metal versions replacing the endoskeletons we got with the T-800s. The execution is great from what we've seen but 2 more figures would be really nice so that no unwanted compromises have to made in making one figure mix up different looks from different parts of the film...granted we don't yet know that this will be the case. I hope not. I hope these figures get released as is and in the best case scenario that others are coming.

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 02:40 PM
Well don't forget, Toy Fair is a show for saying, here's some of what we've got line up for the coming year, often products are unfinished or not even on display.

I'm iffy on the motor cop part, but I trust the accessories list for these figures and as you see, those pieces weren't at the show. Tankman himself has commented that the Predator 2 Elder isn't completed but it's on display there.

There's still a chance for more T-1000s. Until an official announcement from NECA of a wave of figures, we'll just have to wait and see.

Wave 1 was Endo, Pescadero and Man or Machine
Wave 2 was Cyberdyne and BD

You've got 2 kitbash T-800s coming plus all new T-1000s, there could be even more beyond that.

snoop101
02-15-2010, 02:44 PM
there could be even more beyond that.

I doubt it.

a-dev
02-15-2010, 02:45 PM
Actually just had a thought - if they did indeed replace the split head figure's legs with the biker cop legs thus making it innaccurate to either Pescadero or steel mill scenes - you could buy an extra Police Officer T-1000 and do a leg swap - easily done as I discovered with the T-800s.

You could then have a non-bd Steel mill T-1000 if you wished and a fully accurate Pescadero Battle damaged version. So actually if that scenario arose I'd love it!


Holy shiz, so those 2 arnold's are getting released? :lol

Yep. And it seems we were right about the Battle Across Time T-800. The other one has me slightly miffed since I bought extra figures to create that already.

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 02:45 PM
I doubt it.

Me too, but until an official announcement, I don't consider anything concrete, loose reporting from the floor at a show and an incomplete booth display aren't definitive enough.

snoop101
02-15-2010, 02:48 PM
Im just gald neca is finally taken advantage of their T2 lisence. Didnt they release T2 bobble heads a while back?

Platty
02-15-2010, 02:49 PM
I need to go back and look at those 2 new T-800's now there is word that they are getting released.

I can kind of see the point of the re-worked battle damaged version as it is 100% film accurate. I didn't expect it to be released but it's cool that it is. The only issue I have with it is that his right arm, holding the pistol, should be shaped more like the McFarlane one, for obvious reasons. Maybe a better joint that allows his arm to bend back further would improve him.

The 'Battle across time' version just seems like a waste of time to me. At this point, I don't think he'll be gracing my shelves, although the new hands do sound good. I didn't notice them in the toy fair pics, will go and check it out now. Maybe I'll use him to kitbash a Cyberdine version minus the mini gun.

I guess i'm kind of really taken back by new T-800 figures, I really wasn''t expecting any new ones, I figured they'd pretty much used up his main 4 or 5 looks and weren't going to release anymore. Surely it means that he sold quite a lot, that they're releasing more of him? Pretty good stuff!

As for the T-1000, i'm not as clued up about his changing looks and different stages of damage throughout the film. Not as much as I was on the T-800, anyways. I'm pretty much buzzing with what we've seen at toy fair. I'll leave all the customising options to maulfan and a-dev! :lol

a-dev
02-15-2010, 02:54 PM
I reckon its because they weren't confident enough in being able to sell quite as many T-1000s so they're putting out more T-800s alongside him. Its also probably why theres only 2 T-1000 sculpts and one repaint.

It would never have occured to me to want a T2 3D T-800 but I'll probably take him. If I'd had a say in it any further T-800s would have come atop a Harley Davison or as newly-posed figures in elaborate diorama box sets.

But the main thing is we're getting a non-bd Police officer T-1000. Thats essentially what he looked like for most of the film so it seems the most important to me.

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 02:58 PM
Im just gald neca is finally taken advantage of their T2 lisence. Didnt they release T2 bobble heads a while back?

Indeed, it's turning into an awesome line. Someone was commenting in the Predator thread about how the Endo coming out early on in NECA's history and now all these as the license being handled poorly but to me it's being handled properly, they're just rolling with it, no real delays, just lots of figures covering things. Other than doing more T-1000s and wanting to see at least 1 Saraha and John, I don't really have any gripes with this line, it's been fantastic and there's hardly and representations you could want that NECA hasn't delivered.


I can kind of see the point of the re-worked battle damaged version as it is 100% film accurate. I didn't expect it to be released but it's cool that it is. The only issue I have with it is that his right arm, holding the pistol, should be shaped more like the McFarlane one, for obvious reasons. Maybe a better joint that allows his arm to bend back further would improve him.

The 'Battle across time' version just seems like a waste of time to me. At this point, I don't think he'll be gracing my shelves, although the new hands do sound good. I didn't notice them in the toy fair pics, will go and check it out now. Maybe I'll use him to kitbash a Cyberdine version minus the mini gun.


With the BD figure, it's going to end up the way it is because it will be mostly, if not all, recycled parts it's not a whole new figure.

Which, leads to the T2:3D figure, it's 100% kitbash of of existing pieces. It's an easy way to put out something that can bring them more money without any new tooling or anything like that. I'm sure they're not counting on it to be a big seller, but if you can more money of a figure that requires little effor to produce, why not.

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 03:01 PM
But the main thing is we're getting a non-bd Police officer T-1000. Thats essentially what he looked like for most of the film so it seems the most important to me.

I'm most excited about him as I was about Pescadero T-800. I personally love the clean, pristine versions of what characters are meant to look like the most. I can enjoy battle damage and even like collecting it in addition, but I'm not a fan of when it's all I can have, like I have the P2 BD figure from Hot Toys and not the regular, so my P2 has the blood effect painted on him, still like the figure, but it's not my ideal. It's why i'm glad the Hot Toys T-800 has no bullet holes in him, sure it wasn't long before he got them, but I still love that sharp look that represents when he first came on screen. Same with the clean T-1000 from NECA, there he is as he was first introduced to us.

Platty
02-15-2010, 03:09 PM
Which, leads to the T2:3D figure, it's 100% kitbash of of existing pieces.
Wrong. He has new hands :naughty :lol

Platty
02-15-2010, 03:15 PM
I reckon its because they weren't confident enough in being able to sell quite as many T-1000s so they're putting out more T-800s alongside him. Its also probably why theres only 2 T-1000 sculpts and one repaint.
Yeah you're probably right mate. I realise these new T-800's are just existing parts used together to make new figures, any dumbo can figure that out! ha ha. I still think the new Battle damage version should come with a different right arm, though. There's time yet, hopefully he will!


It would never have occured to me to want a T2 3D T-800 but I'll probably take him. If I'd had a say in it any further T-800s would have come atop a Harley Davison or as newly-posed figures in elaborate diorama box sets.
Yeah I agree there, i've always thought an Arnold on the Harley would be ace. The perfect companion to the existing figures. Not to be though, I guess :(


But the main thing is we're getting a non-bd Police officer T-1000. Thats essentially what he looked like for most of the film so it seems the most important to me.
Agreed there as well! Icing on the cake if we get a police biker uniform version.

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 03:15 PM
We'll see, the same source for that also says the T-1000 with split head is a biker :lol

Even with different hands, it's still essentially be a kitbash, which is the only reason I can conceive of putting out a figure from an attraction that I'm sure a number of people haven't seen. If anything, I'd make that an exclusive to sell in the store outside the attraction. The one thing I liked about the theme parks in Florida, if there was a ride for something you really liked, there was a kickass store full of goodies you can't find just anywhere right outside it, T2 store and Star Wars stores were my favorites.

Batfreak
02-15-2010, 03:25 PM
i hope the silver variant is not an exclusive, that would suck!

MaulFan
02-15-2010, 03:26 PM
As much as Exclusive would suck, not having a metallic finish like that would suck more, so of the options, I'll take exclusive and looking right to readily available and not looking good.

a-dev
02-16-2010, 11:24 AM
I wish we could confirm either way what the story is with the ''motorcycle cop'' figure they talk about. And indeed if there'll be more figures. I can't really know how many of each I'm buying until we do. The man himself isn't active in this thread as he was in the Predator thread.

MaulFan
02-16-2010, 11:27 AM
Maybe Kyle didn't sculpt these. From the way he posts about the Predator, even if he did the T-1000, he seems to have poured a great deal into the Predator and is getting active in there. Also, that thread's been around since before Toy Fair with him commenting in it, so he might have it book marked and hasn't even seen this one.

Series600
02-16-2010, 12:29 PM
I've been thinking, the first 2 series of Neca's T2 each had 3 T-800 figures. Granted one in each was an endoskeleton, and not Arnold, this still gives me an idea. If there might be 2 more series, 3 figures each, the 4th series could (and I think should) have the Biker Cop, Split Body, and Frozen Body.

a-dev
02-17-2010, 10:35 AM
I forbid this thread to drop to page 2 of this forum again! This is my most eagerly anticipated line of 2010 alongside HT's equivalents.


I've been thinking, the first 2 series of Neca's T2 each had 3 T-800 figures. Granted one in each was an endoskeleton, and not Arnold, this still gives me an idea. If there might be 2 more series, 3 figures each, the 4th series could (and I think should) have the Biker Cop, Split Body, and Frozen Body.

Ah I understand what you're saying. The 'Frozen' body you refer to would be the same basic sculpt as the Biker cop figure but with a rougher iced texture in a walking pose. It would be this wave's Liquid metal variant of the basic police officer figure. Yeah I'd buy that. And as long as the split body (another favourite choice of mine as McFarlane didn't do this one) had the lower legs accurate to the steel mill scenes it'd be perfect because this set of legs could be interchanged with the first T-1000 wave's police officer version so as to create a non-battledamaged Steel Mill T-1000 aswell.

We'd pretty much be sorted for everything. McFarlane covered the exploded T-1000 and the donut headsculpt which, while not completely accurate due to the BD body and hook arm, is still acceptable to me.

Unfortunately though thats all speculation and another T-1000 wave may not happen. We aren't even completely certain that the current set of figures will be released as they are shown.

MaulFan
02-17-2010, 10:36 AM
Nope, until NECA's official announcement, we're a bit in the dark as to just what we'll be offered.

Johnny Utah
02-17-2010, 10:47 AM
The Quarter Bin did an interview with NECA on the 15th, should be online this week. Might get some clarification. They usually get juicy bits of info, it's where I first heard of the T2 line.

www.thequarterbin.com

a-dev
02-17-2010, 11:55 AM
I shall keep an eye on that then. Like you Johnny I don't think I'll be signing up to Twitter but thanks for that PM.

Johnny Utah
02-17-2010, 12:30 PM
No problemo.

a-dev
02-17-2010, 06:48 PM
In all the Toyfair excitement I forgot to post that I received this. I'm very happy with it, not a HT calibre paintjob but no obvious errors. I'd love to chrome the endo parts.

I'm going to take photos of my 2 12" NECAs alongside Hot Toys stuff to let people see how they compare scalewise etc.

MaulFan
02-17-2010, 07:48 PM
I'm content waiting for the post that'll be made on NECA's site when things are official, Figures.com seems like a reliable source but their info is confusing and any other reporter could also provide mixed information. The only clear information would be the offical release info NECA will share once they're ready. The guy at the show may not know what they're talking about either, if he's a general NECA rep, he may have no clue about the various T-1000 looks and might confuse what he shares. Odds are the people at the show are ones NECA can afford to send away to represent them while the company continues with it's work.

Valfar
02-17-2010, 09:00 PM
I have the first wo, getting the Temple of the Serpent version soon. They rock! A must for any Schwarzenegger fan.

I believe there is five Conan figures out from Neca currently.

Series600
02-17-2010, 10:40 PM
I forbid this thread to drop to page 2 of this forum again! This is my most eagerly anticipated line of 2010 alongside HT's equivalents.



Ah I understand what you're saying. The 'Frozen' body you refer to would be the same basic sculpt as the Biker cop figure but with a rougher iced texture in a walking pose. It would be this wave's Liquid metal variant of the basic police officer figure. Yeah I'd buy that. And as long as the split body (another favourite choice of mine as McFarlane didn't do this one) had the lower legs accurate to the steel mill scenes it'd be perfect because this set of legs could be interchanged with the first T-1000 wave's police officer version so as to create a non-battledamaged Steel Mill T-1000 aswell.

We'd pretty much be sorted for everything. McFarlane covered the exploded T-1000 and the donut headsculpt which, while not completely accurate due to the BD body and hook arm, is still acceptable to me.

Unfortunately though thats all speculation and another T-1000 wave may not happen. We aren't even completely certain that the current set of figures will be released as they are shown.

Exactly... we're on the same page there. I don't need another donut head, because the rest of that body is normal(though I'd be pleased if the normal figure came with a swapable donut head). Along with the 3 we've seen pictured at Toy Fair, the 3 I listed would complete my T-1000 quota... except maybe for an interchangeable spear-finger hand for the normal figure.

On the other hand, you may also be sadly correct about this all being speculation... but I just hope NECA knows what we want.

EndoSickness
02-18-2010, 02:47 AM
In all the Toyfair excitement I forgot to post that I received this. I'm very happy with it, not a HT calibre paintjob but no obvious errors. I'd love to chrome the endo parts.

I'm going to take photos of my 2 12" NECAs alongside Hot Toys stuff to let people see how they compare scalewise etc.

Would love to see it.
Will you wait ´til you can compare to the actual T-800 and BD T-800?

Johnny Utah
02-18-2010, 05:55 AM
From Randy Falk's Twitter:

# T-1000 (Liquid Metal) variant will be an exclusive for SDCC or retailer TBA later

# Both T-1000 allow for heads, arms & hands to be swapped out so you can mix/match pcs. They include extra hands & an additional head nt shown

# T2 series 3 includes, T-800 Battle Across Time & T-800 Steel Mill along w T-1000 (reg cop) & T-1000 (battle damg w/hook hands)

I'd say Donuthead is the second head.

Platty
02-18-2010, 10:42 AM
Gotta say, i'm impressed with Maulfan, A-dev and whoever else called out that "Battle Across Time" Arnie figure. Great shout.

Cobra King
02-18-2010, 12:09 PM
i wonder if the battle across time figure will be sold esclusivley at the t2 3d gift shop

Batfreak
02-18-2010, 12:26 PM
isnt that "battle across time" arnie also the desert scenes arnie as well? he had the grey tshirt on in those scenes i believe but no sunglasses, which is ok if you have a spare arnie head.

as for the all-silver variant being an exclusive, that really sucks!! and what happened to that motorcycle T-1000? guess that was just a rumour.

MaulFan
02-18-2010, 12:31 PM
No, dessert T-800 is basically the Pescadero figure with a glasses-less head. Battle Accorss time figure is the Cyberdyne figure with a glasses head.

snoop101
02-18-2010, 01:00 PM
i wonder if the battle across time figure will be sold esclusivley at the t2 3d gift shop

Id doubt it. It seems they would want to make as much money off of it as possible.

MaulFan
02-18-2010, 01:32 PM
Id doubt it. It seems they would want to make as much money off of it as possible.

I would think that, it strikes me as being made to make more money with little work, but I can't help wonder, why make the metal T-1000 an Exclusive, I would think it'd sell as well as any other T-1000 figure.

Platty
02-18-2010, 02:02 PM
No, dessert T-800 is basically the Pescadero figure with a glasses-less head. Battle Accorss time figure is the Cyberdyne figure with a glasses head.
Arnie wears the grey t-shirt in the desert, big dawg!

Johnny Utah
02-18-2010, 02:41 PM
It's really the Cyberdyne shootout figure. In T2 3D he wears black gloves.

a-dev
02-18-2010, 03:39 PM
From Randy Falk's Twitter:

# T-1000 (Liquid Metal) variant will be an exclusive for SDCC or retailer TBA later

# Both T-1000 allow for heads, arms & hands to be swapped out so you can mix/match pcs. They include extra hands & an additional head nt shown

# T2 series 3 includes, T-800 Battle Across Time & T-800 Steel Mill along w T-1000 (reg cop) & T-1000 (battle damg w/hook hands)

I'd say Donuthead is the second head.

OK then.

T2 Series 3:

T-800 Battle Across Time - not needed but I'll buy one

T-800 Steel Mill - kinda bummed that I already made this figure, but will buy one if the eyes are painted differently as shown

T-1000 regular police officer version - Thrilled to see this. Will buy 5 or more.

T-1000 Pescadero Battle-damaged version - will buy one for the particular scene it depicts and additionals for cross customising with the regular cop version.

T-1000 liquid metal version - would like 2 or maybe 3 if I could get them

What I'd really love to know is if there will be a series 4 with T-1000 figures representing his appearances in the latter part of the film - the actual motorcycle cop, the steel mill version or any BD states of the steel mill figure. If I knew for certain that no more T-1000s would be made then I would increase my purchases of the current set and just accept the compromise that its not completely accurate.

Platty
02-18-2010, 03:47 PM
For me to really want to go out and buy the Steel Mill Arnie he would have to have a different arm holding the pistol. Doesn't look right when he can't bend it all the way back like the way he does in the film. You're right though a-dev, it would be ace if his eyes were repainted like what we saw in the toy fair shots. Another plus point to make the figure more desirable for me.

Getting all the T-100's, with the possible exception of the liquid metal version, for obvious reasons. Will be great to display them with the Arnie's!

MaulFan
02-18-2010, 03:49 PM
a-dev, out of curiousity, why would you get multiples of the full chrome one? I get the customizing with the other figures, but I don't see any way to make variations with the full chrome figure.

a-dev
02-18-2010, 04:01 PM
Of characters/figures that are really important to me I like to have more than 1 simply by default for the 'just in case' scenarios. Bit of an OCD thing there maybe!

I would use one chrome T-1000 in battle with the T-800 in the steel mill and another one freestanding 'walking out of the flames' from the aquaduct truck explosion perhaps. If I got a 3rd it'd be for a possible custom, perhaps to create my own 'forming from the ground up' T-1000.

a-dev
02-18-2010, 04:06 PM
For me to really want to go out and buy the Steel Mill Arnie he would have to have a different arm holding the pistol. Doesn't look right when he can't bend it all the way back like the way he does in the film. You're right though a-dev, it would be ace if his eyes were repainted like what we saw in the toy fair shots. Another plus point to make the figure more desirable for me.

Getting all the T-100's, with the possible exception of the liquid metal version, for obvious reasons. Will be great to display them with the Arnie's!

The liquid metal version will hopefully be available for order online. I'll be very disappointed if it isn't.

The draw of the Steel Mill T-800 for you need not necessarily be that particular pose - remember you have the McFarlane figure for that. Just put the new head with the sideways looking eyes on the McFarlane body. But you could get the new figure as more of a neutral posed T-800 from the steel mill, or in hand-to-hand combat with the T-1000 before he gets his arm caught in the giant gears.

MaulFan
02-18-2010, 04:36 PM
I just hope it comes out close to as reflective as the prototype, if it does that'll look really cool. That's my vote for a 12" if any, Hot Toys will never do that so it'd be the only way to have it at 12" scale.

a-dev
02-18-2010, 04:48 PM
Yeah good point. I think it'd need some sort of extra incentive in the package though. Maybe a base and a backdrop from either the canal or the steel mill.

MaulFan
02-18-2010, 04:52 PM
I think a canal base with some transparent orange flames coming off it would be cool, then maybe you could setup some LEDs underneath it to make the flames glow and then he'd reflect it.

a-dev
02-18-2010, 04:55 PM
Not a bad idea. Another reason why the reflectivity is important. We really don't want a matte silver here - on the 7" let alone a possible 12".

MaulFan
02-18-2010, 04:59 PM
I won't buy it if it's not metallic, it just won't look right. Even without a base, maybe if orange/red LED spotlights can be found you can still make a really interesting display. I think the really power in displaying the figure will come from what reflects off it.

I'll say this, if it's as reflective as the prototype, taking photos without catching ugly reflections on it will be a pain.

crazypredator2
02-19-2010, 10:56 AM
Got my neca 12 inch terminator 2 battle damaged arnie w/ light-up eye today. it is a fantastic figure, can't wait for a 12 inch T-1000
to go with him.

Series600
02-19-2010, 03:36 PM
I would think that, it strikes me as being made to make more money with little work, but I can't help wonder, why make the metal T-1000 an Exclusive, I would think it'd sell as well as any other T-1000 figure.

I think I can say, with some strong certanty, that the Liquid Metal T-1000 would be one of the line's best sellers. It's the only one so far that I had already planned on buying a few of.

MaulFan
02-19-2010, 03:40 PM
I'm actually glad they're doing the Steel Mill T-800, I've got that semi-BD head from the BD figure sitting in a bag with other extra NECA/McF bits from figures, kind of a waste and I don't feel that head looks right on the BD body so I didin't opt to get a second to have both heads, the Steel Mill figure is perfect for that level of face damage.

a-dev
02-19-2010, 03:47 PM
Well there is a brief period where he has the Battledamaged arm and the phase 1 battle damaged face - when he attacks the T-1000 from behind with the iron bar. I'm using a custom McFarlane/NECA blend to represent this.

I wonder will there be any backwards compatability between the NECA T-1000 and the McFarlane one. Maybe the NECA head could be put on the old McFarlane body - might be the only way we'll get a steel mill T-1000 with a normal face. Of course what to do about the lack of a normal left arm on the McFarlane figure? The NECA figure's outfit seems to be a different colour so I don't think parts could be swapped other than the head.

Platty
02-19-2010, 04:29 PM
I'm actually glad they're doing the Steel Mill T-800, I've got that semi-BD head from the BD figure sitting in a bag with other extra NECA/McF bits from figures, kind of a waste and I don't feel that head looks right on the BD body so I didin't opt to get a second to have both heads, the Steel Mill figure is perfect for that level of face damage.

Pop the Movie Maniac figures head off and put the Neca head on there!

MaulFan
02-19-2010, 04:41 PM
Never bought the McFarlane T2 figures and wouldn't today with NECA covering every look.

a-dev
02-19-2010, 04:58 PM
The McFarlane T-800 is fantastic with the NECA head. Its one of my favourite figures in my collection now that it looks like Arnie at long last. And the NECA steel mill figure will only be able to approximate the pose that the McFarlane one has. The pistol arm won't bend tight enough.

Back to the T-1000, I'm hoping to find away to mod one of my 2 McFarlane ones with a non BD Robert Patrick head and both normal human arms - I think the bullet hits in the torso correspond to Sarah connors shotgun in the steel mill so that'd be what I'd be going for.

Platty
02-19-2010, 05:11 PM
The McFarlane T-800 is fantastic with the NECA head. Its one of my favourite figures in my collection now that it looks like Arnie at long last. And the NECA steel mill figure will only be able to approximate the pose that the McFarlane one has. The pistol arm won't bend tight enough.
Yeah. It completely changes the mcfarlane version when you put the neca head on. It's like having a brand new figure. I'd recommend it Mauly!

MaulFan
02-19-2010, 07:05 PM
To me it's a waste to buy the McF and do customization on it, when for probably the same price, I can get the new NECA and not have to do anything with it. If I had McF already I'd put it to use but since I don't, it's a waste of money to get it when NECA's will do just fine.

a-dev
02-20-2010, 03:22 PM
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Terminator stuff at the 1 minute mark. My oh my they look fantastic.

a-dev
02-21-2010, 01:16 PM
:monkey2 Why aren't these figures out yet?

Also dammit I realised I actually don't have a McFarlane T-1000 to spare for any cross-customs with the NECA. I feckin' spray painted my 2nd one chrome a few years ago in a poor attempt at the kind of custom I've been thinking of for the new NECA liquid metal figure. And I sorta want to keep my other McF figure as it was made. So I'd have to hunt another one down somewhere.

crazypredator2
02-21-2010, 02:00 PM
finally got my neca 1/6 battle damaged arnie,
i love it, a great likeness, thanks neca.

Buttmunch
02-22-2010, 03:28 PM
Well, I just went back and ordered a set of the series 1 and series 2 T-800s so I'll be all set for these guys now! :D

MaulFan
02-22-2010, 03:29 PM
About time, slacker :lol

crazypredator2
02-22-2010, 03:32 PM
surely they will make a couple 12 inchers.to go with the 12 inch arnies.

MaulFan
02-22-2010, 03:39 PM
I don't know, before Hot Toys announced a T2 line, I'd have figured we'd see 12" T-1000 for sure. now not so sure and not just because of Hot Toys.

We've seen 3 T-1000 figures shown, and one rumored to be an Exclusive, so really, 2 mass released T-1000s tentatively.

Counting the 2 shown off at Toy Fair, NECA's committed to 6 different T-800 figures. They're really showing that they feel T-800's a winner and T-1000 is sort of necessary not going to be a big hit in their eyes. Sucks, but if T-1000 only gets 2 main stream 7" releases, I'm thinking that attitude plus HT now doing T2 figures could mean slim chance of a 12" NECA T-1000. It seemed like the BD T-800 was a project to get out, I'm just not feeling very confident they'll deem T-1000 worth whatever efforts he'd take.

crazypredator2
02-22-2010, 04:08 PM
i guess we will just have to hope and pray, they do
a 1/6 T-1000.

MaulFan
02-22-2010, 04:18 PM
I'm hoping for the chrome version, it'd be great to get that 12" from them.

A.L.I.E.N
02-22-2010, 04:33 PM
I'm hoping for the chrome version, it'd be great to get that 12" from them.

certainly would! :banana

crazypredator2
02-22-2010, 04:45 PM
i would take any version, at this point.

MaulFan
02-22-2010, 05:02 PM
Well, I'll be getting HT's so I'm hoping to get out of NECA what there'll be no chance of with HT, which is the full chrome look, you pretty much have to do a solid figure like NECA makes to really do that apperance justice, I don't see HT doing it with their market so my hope's in NECA coming through, so that a combination of NECA and HT figures can do at 12" scale what NECA is with 7" having the variety of looks captured.

Buttmunch
02-22-2010, 06:18 PM
Yeah, a 12" chrome version would be great. But even a regular T-1000 could be painted in crome afterward. Like Sean said, you really need a full plastic figure to get that look. But I suppose if anyone could make chrome clothing, it would be Hot Toys.

Other than that, I fully expect HT to make the 12" Terminator figures I want, so I'm just sticking to the 7" NECA figures.

tylerdurden
02-22-2010, 10:44 PM
wow, that robert patrick likeness is fantastic!
neca's headsculpts are so underrated.

MaulFan
02-22-2010, 10:47 PM
NECA has some great likenesses, the problem I find with most of their human sculpts is there's this unfinished quality about them, like this texture, like they're chiselled from stone, they don't have a smooth, refined look like you see in the 1/6 world.

Buttmunch
02-22-2010, 10:49 PM
That probably has to do with the fact most of their sculpts are meant to get shrunk down to half the size they were sculpted at. The 7" figures don't look that bad (texture wise) but their 12" figures do tend to for sure. They certainly aren't hot toys, but for cheap, mass produced figures, they are quite good.

Series600
02-22-2010, 10:52 PM
Something I just noticed, the Liquid Metal T-1000 figure at Toy Fair is posed with a chromed pistol in the holster. That would be a neat addition to the figure, but not the way he was in the movie as the gun is not part of him.

MaulFan
02-22-2010, 10:53 PM
They are great for the 7" figures, it's rare they don't look like who they're supposed to be, I love both Hannibal Lecters, great Hopkins faces.

I do think NECA is "underrated" because they don't try to be as good as the guys who focus on the 1/6 market. If their sculpts were more polished and finished looking, they could easily compete with Sideshow and Hot Toys. When people talk about sculpts around here though in 1/6, NECA's rarely going to be mentioned because of the unrefined look. I love NECA for what it is but I'd never argue one of their sculpts, for a human, overall competing with the 1/6 specialty companies. NECA's creatures are fantastic though, even at large scale.

a-dev
02-22-2010, 11:23 PM
It is only the rough texture, visible seams and paintjob that holds NECAs figures back from competing with HT. The sculpts are right there. Better dimensions overall on Tankmans Arnie headsculpt than SS and even HT. The T-1000 looks incredible but likewise suffers from that roughness - apart from that its the closest I've seen to Robert Patrick in the film - especially in that youtube video.

csutkakoma
02-23-2010, 12:25 PM
Likeness wise i think the T-1000 is not as great as the T-800. It is good, don't get me wrong but it is half as good as Arnold. The Arnold likeness on the T-800(BD version) is better than the Sideshow 12' Arnold (It beats the crap out of it.), but the Sideshow T-1000's look is much better than this IMo. Or maybe just the paintjob needs some work. Other than that it is a beautifull looking figure for the 7'inch scale, but this at 12' will not be as good as the 12 BD Arnold...but of course these are just prototypes yet.

a-dev
02-23-2010, 01:21 PM
Its that roughness of texture IMO that might be throwing it off for you. I think the sculpt is excellent as is, the shape of the head with the distinctive sticky-out ears and the haircut together with the shape of the face which seems to create shadow in all the right places. Check out that youtube video on the previous page, the way the camera pans around - thats Robert Patrick in head and body. I must admit even I was slightly put off by the rough surface and the eyes but then I remembered that the Arnie figures (including the 2ups originally shown last year) had issues of roughness and the production figures have less than stellar paint apps on the faces - as with the T-1000 though the sculpt is damn near perfect on that figure. So I expect the same again.

I've long said that NECAs T-800 is superior to the SS's earlier effort and I would also say that the NECA T-1000 looks better.

csutkakoma
02-23-2010, 01:25 PM
Its that roughness of texture IMO that might be throwing it off for you.

Probably you are right here. i hope the final product has a better paint job, texture on the face. The more I am looking at the sculpt I must say i am impressed with it and only the paint need some work.

a-dev
02-23-2010, 01:41 PM
Today I received the Conan: Temple of the Serpent 7" scale figure. Its the only Conan figure I have, hoping to get the previous ones aswell.

From what I can gather the legs look to be recycled from the Warpaint figure but everything above that is new to this figure. Its really excellent, NECA have really got me back into the smaller figure domain.

The likeness to Arnie is IMO better than the T2 figures. Or at least the paintjob is much better, notably the eyes - the main weakness of the T-800 figures. The eyes are very Arnie, looking off to the side like the Sideshow T-800 PF. I wish I could get another of these figures and somehow transplant this head onto a T-800 body. You'd also have to surgically scalp a T-800 figure to provide the T2 haircut to it. That kind of custom would be completely beyond me. Also the Conan figure is a 'base of skull' joint as opposed to the base of neck joint that the T-800 is to make things more complicated. But if I could do it I'd use the Conan headsculpt as my 'Uncle Bob' T-800 - it reminds me of the look he gives John during the 'high-five' scene in the desert. Anyway, great headsculpt and paintjob. Why don't the T-800s have this quality of paint apps? Heres hoping for an improvement when that Steel Mill T-800 comes out.

One last thing - Conan is much taller than the T-800 figure. Well, that is to say, he would be much taller if he were sculpted standing up straight. It seems the torso and legs are longer which makes the difference. And yet the head and arms are the same size/length as on the T-800s. Kinda sounds like it should look wierd considering this but it doesn't. It still looks normally proportioned. Point is its not just Hot Toys who aren't really bothered with accurate scale between figures from different licences.

MaulFan
02-23-2010, 01:43 PM
That brings up something, not a big deal, but I hope the T-1000 and T-800 end up relatively in scale to each other.

a-dev
02-23-2010, 02:21 PM
Yeah. T-1000 should be a tad shorter if I'm right, not by much. The McFarlane figures portrayed a slight difference in height so I assume it should be likewise with the NECA versions.

I'm slightly concerned about how the T-1000 will look shrunken down especially since he has to be smaller than the T-800 who himself was shorter than McFarlane's one.

MaulFan
02-23-2010, 02:24 PM
I'm actually more concerned about build than height, hopefully the skinnyness translates, Patrick was a scrawny looking dude in T2.

a-dev
02-23-2010, 02:42 PM
I thought I'd written that in my post, must have deleted it. Yeah the build was a key difference between them. Very different body types. However I'm sure Kyle was conscious of this when sculpting them...unless things beyond his control conspire to throw their scale with eachother off. I'm not knowledgeable on how these figures are made so I could be talking out of my backside.

MaulFan
02-23-2010, 02:52 PM
Well I think just going from 12" to 7" can change perception, if not the actual item. To me, the 12" Pescadero looks more elongated and thinner than the 7" version.

a-dev
02-23-2010, 03:56 PM
Could that really be the case? Because y'know I kinda agree. I remember when I first got my 12" Pescadero it made the 7" feel more squat relatively speaking. I kinda thought the hair looked shorter for one thing.

MaulFan
02-23-2010, 04:04 PM
I find that I like the proportions on the 7" Pescadero to the 12", the head looks smaller compared to the body on the 12", and the overall build looks bulkier and more intimidating on the 7". Not sure if it's an optical illusion or if there actually are differences in proportions between the two. I just know when I got my 12" Pescadero, I wasn't as happy with it overall as the 7" version, which surprised me.

Now that I say all this though, I'm sure part of his bulk at 7" compared to the 12" is the thickness of the rubber coat piece, I don't have them both handy but I think the rubber is the same thickness, so on a 7" it'll bulk it our more than a 12".

tylerdurden
02-23-2010, 11:15 PM
It is only the rough texture, visible seams and paintjob that holds NECAs figures back from competing with HT. The sculpts are right there. Better dimensions overall on Tankmans Arnie headsculpt than SS and even HT. The T-1000 looks incredible but likewise suffers from that roughness - apart from that its the closest I've seen to Robert Patrick in the film - especially in that youtube video.


yep, it is the rough surface texture that makes neca stuff seem a little cheap.

the only thing i don't like is their weird scale choices: 7" or 18". to me those are either too small or too big! my 18" t800 endoskeleton is nice (for the price) but he doesn't fit in with the rest of my collection. have to display him all alone. poor fella :lol

a-dev
02-25-2010, 11:45 PM
Just crap phone pictures at the moment but I gathered together a bunch of my Terminator figures of different scales. The 12" Final Battle figure is in there.

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC02015.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC02017.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC02012.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC02011.jpg

smaller figures only:

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC02014.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC02008.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC02007.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC02004.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC01998.jpg
http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/DSC01999.jpg

A.L.I.E.N
02-26-2010, 04:54 AM
My advice: Your 1/6th shelf is cool but clutered :) Move the 7" figures down and spread the 1/6th out more :rock

a-dev
02-26-2010, 09:30 AM
I thought someone might say that :lol

That isn't how I display my figures - at the moment I have nowhere to display my figures as such, they're default place right now is in storage or covered up somewhere to shield them from cigarette smoke. I only put them on those small shelves to get some photos.

When I finally can display them properly they will indeed be less cluttered.

crazypredator2
02-26-2010, 09:54 AM
one of neca's best figures.
Thanks kyle !

csutkakoma
02-26-2010, 10:47 AM
Wow man! Nice Terminator Collection.

necronomic
02-26-2010, 02:23 PM
The best terminator Figure ever made, perfect likeness !
Much better then the 7" ich figure, especially the eyes !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5OWH01nd4I

...but i wish he was 18"

necronomic
02-26-2010, 02:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOP2Sr-y3G8
4:00 - 4:30

Neca for President