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a-dev
02-10-2017, 09:58 PM
Haha, thanks. Although, PMing is a problem for me at the moment. I just sent you a visitor message.

Vector
02-10-2017, 10:11 PM
Haha, thanks. Although, PMing is a problem for me at the moment. I just sent you a visitor message.

Saw the visitor message in Notifications but it does not show up in my inbox. I tried responding to an old PM.

a-dev
02-10-2017, 10:15 PM
Did you click on your name, 'view profile' and then visitor messages next to 'my activity'?

In any case I think I'll sign up for premium membership again tomorrow. I seem to be getting a lot of PM attempts lately. None of them getting though because I'm at 961% capacity. I'd have to delete a heck of a lot of messages :lol

Vector
02-10-2017, 10:41 PM
Did you click on your name, 'view profile' and then visitor messages next to 'my activity'?

In any case I think I'll sign up for premium membership again tomorrow. I seem to be getting a lot of PM attempts lately. None of them getting though because I'm at 961% capacity. I'd have to delete a heck of a lot of messages :lol

Ok, found the visitor message. If I reply to it in the field above your message will it come to you?

a-dev
02-10-2017, 10:43 PM
I think if you click on 'view conversation' and reply there I'll be notified...the thing is anyone can view visitor messages - they aren't private - so I was asking if you could respond to my email address

Vector
02-10-2017, 10:55 PM
I think if you click on 'view conversation' and reply there I'll be notified...the thing is anyone can view visitor messages - they aren't private - so I was asking if you could respond to my email address

Email sent.

a-dev
02-10-2017, 10:59 PM
Excellent, email received. I shall act upon this intel tomorrow. Thanks for going to all that hassle.

Vector
02-10-2017, 11:02 PM
Excellent, email received. I shall act upon this intel tomorrow. Thanks for going to all that hassle.


No problem. :hi5:

a-dev
02-10-2017, 11:20 PM
**** it, just ordered now. I delayed too long on a 1:10 scale picnic table in the past and it sold out. Not again.

Vector
02-10-2017, 11:34 PM
**** it, just ordered now. I delayed too long on a 1:10 scale picnic table in the past and it sold out. Not again.

It is a nice little table. You will like it.

GasparZizou
02-10-2017, 11:48 PM
Randy works with McFarlane toys -> leaves -> Randy mocks McFarlane for not pushing the envelope and sucking -> NECA toys is created -> Randy is criticized for not pushing the envelope -> Bought out by Jye and DiFabio -> lolcat toys Inc. is born -> hire a-dev as our lead project manager on the Terminator line

In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

Would you give removable maks to your predators?

DiFabio
02-11-2017, 12:27 AM
>Implying I'd have a Predator line

GasparZizou
02-11-2017, 12:30 AM
;_; youjust became Randy.

Its like pottery.

DiFabio
02-11-2017, 12:34 AM
JKing

My Predators would be the best Predators so removable masks would be a must. I'd also negotiate with Carl Weathers, Jesse Ventura, Bill Duke, and Sonny Landham. Not before going to Nicholson and Peter Weller though.

GasparZizou
02-11-2017, 12:38 AM
JKing

My Predators would be the best Predators so removable masks would be a must. I'd also negotiate with Carl Weathers, Jesse Ventura, Bill Duke, and Sonny Landham. Not before going to Nicholson and Peter Weller though.

Brilliant. Dillon/Dutch polo shirt 2pack with extra shiny skin gloss in the works?

DiFabio
02-11-2017, 01:03 AM
Yes, and electronic voice base.

GasparZizou
02-11-2017, 01:06 AM
Niceeee! Preordered multiples.

jye4ever
02-11-2017, 05:38 AM
;_; youjust became Randy.

Its like pottery.

:lol :lol :lol

ApeManRyan
02-11-2017, 07:21 AM
I am in the process of upgrading my Terminator display shelf to mini dioramas. I recently got an Ultimate Sarah Connor and had all the parts so I started with hers.

A few pics:


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Holy hell!!!!

a-dev
02-11-2017, 09:19 AM
While NECA has produced every look from T1 and T2 of the T-800, I know a-dev would agree that the upper body articulation has heavily limited pose options, where release of re-engineered figures could result in more options. Resting shotgun on shoulder pose would be valuable for T1 and T2. I'd also like to see spike haired T1 heads that look like the T1 hair and not T2.


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I know. I was just being facetious. :) There are still some really cool options for Terminator figures left to be done. A 7" Steel Mill T-800 with BD arm comes to mind. Make him with a swappable chest piece with a hole in the front with a matching hole in his back and then release yet another T-1000 with a metal rod as an accessory. Or a special "Steel Mill Final Fight" two pack :lol


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^^^ :lol a-dev, I was writing this post at the same time as yours about the BD Steel Mill T-800 :lol


For starters, after John I'd retire the T-800, T-1000 and Endoskeleton sculpts and make all new ones to retool and rehash variations of. That Endoskeleton needs to be remade from scratch.

I'd actually try and make definitive versions of each character and not half ass them with old parts and janky legs. No reason why the T-800, T-1000 and Kyle Reese shouldn't have double hinged elbows and knees along with a hidden ab crunch. And give the Arnies some fists to punch things with, that's important. He punches a lot in both films.

Kyle has gotten the short end of the stick imo. He got ONE preproposed figure that only holds a shot gun and can't look good doing anything else. Kyle ran, jumped and was a very action oriented character. He didn't just wield a shot gun, he had a pistol, pipe bombs (which I'd argue are more of a signature weapon for him than the shot gun), and a pipe.

Everything A-dev listed is great too. I love the grotesque T-1000 variants. That kind of thing would be right up their alley. Instead of "Ultimates", why not waves that depict a certain scene or a scene pack like the T-1000 vs. the T-800 in the steel mill or T1 Sarah Connor and the Endoskeleton.

You could also do a Kyle Reese (future soldier) which you could make one or two more regular grunts out of, General John Connor and a Franco Columbu T-800 infilitrator (just don't make him to scale, he'd be about as tall as Newt).




EDIT:


*sees Vector's post*

Ohhhh


Yeah when I think of T2, I think of the Steel Mill. Imagine last year if they actually had an anniversary Steel Mill wave for T2. Steel Mill T-800 with swappable parts, T-1000 with swappable parts. A bloodied up/wounded Sarah Connor (with T-1000 disguise parts). John Connor with his back pack and accessories.

That's not even that much of a hard-to-do demand when they have 98% of the parts for those first three figures alone.

You guys nailed it with all this by the way. There is still real potential not only for new figures like John Connor and Cleaved Man T-1000 but there's potential to make us buy everything we already have all over again.

scarrviper
02-11-2017, 10:52 AM
That Sarah Connor display looks incredible, nice work!

That figure really surprised me with just how good it turned out. One of Neca's best.


As for the ultimate motorcycle cop, I'm still happy with him. I never had the original release so this was something I was really hoping they would make.

I do agree that his legs seem a bit half-assed in how they were altered for the new articulation. They look nice, but the anatomy seems a little off. My guess is that it was rushed because they weren't planning on making this version but went for it because the fans demanded it.
Speaking of the legs, I think this one might be the worst offender out of all my terminator ultimates with the one leg longer than the other syndrome. I can't seem to get him standing straight, he's always leaning to his left.

I'm glad they chose to include the split open head, that was the one thing I felt was missing from the first ultimate T-1000. Also that glossy film that is on his alternate heads does wash off with water. Now mine have the correct matte look. I think it's the eyes that are throwing off the look of the extra normal head that comes with this figure. On the first ultimate the eyes are looking up and straight forward, while on this MC version the eyes are looking down which is making them look bugged out.

jye4ever
02-11-2017, 08:26 PM
https://youtu.be/E0yifMpzYsk

a-dev
02-11-2017, 11:03 PM
A work of sheer brilliance ^

Vector
02-12-2017, 06:58 PM
Holy hell!!!!



That Sarah Connor display looks incredible, nice work!


Thanks guys.

jye4ever
02-12-2017, 07:14 PM
https://youtu.be/E0yifMpzYsk

Nope, too clean.

He needs to throw some sand in that box. :lol

DiFabio
02-12-2017, 07:36 PM
He needs to throw some sand in that box. :lol

http://49.media.tumblr.com/633246bbd1cac0b59660b46f401a92ef/tumblr_o3ha8uQlxU1twcj5xo2_r1_540.gif

jye4ever
02-12-2017, 07:39 PM
:lol :lol :lol

perfect. :lol

Jameson Rook
02-17-2017, 06:29 AM
I was wondering- is the NECA Ultimate T2 T-800 durable enough for a kid to play? I'm thinking of getting one for my kid cousin, and no he doesn't swallow small toys.

jye4ever
02-17-2017, 06:33 AM
NECA is so inconsistent.

I've seen their products be durable enough to hold up to kids playing and then crumble in the hands of the most delicate of adult hands.

So flip a coin and give it to the kid.

Vector
02-17-2017, 07:53 AM
I was wondering- is the NECA Ultimate T2 T-800 durable enough for a kid to play? I'm thinking of getting one for my kid cousin, and no he doesn't swallow small toys.

The mini gun will probably break almost immediately. The figure and other accessories will probably hold up pretty well depending on his age and play style.

Jameson Rook
02-17-2017, 08:09 AM
NECA is so inconsistent.

I've seen their products be durable enough to hold up to kids playing and then crumble in the hands of the most delicate of adult hands.

So flip a coin and give it to the kid.


The mini gun will probably break almost immediately. The figure and other accessories will probably hold up pretty well depending on his age and play style.

Ah, I see not much has changed with Neca then. Oh well, I might get one anyway. Kinda misses the point having those extra articulation but not sturdy enough to survive at least some kind of pose. :dunno

DiFabio
02-17-2017, 08:10 AM
Ultimate T2 T-800 is very sturdy. A kid could play with it without breaking or snapping any joints.

Jameson Rook
02-17-2017, 08:16 AM
Ultimate T2 T-800 is very sturdy. A kid could play with it without breaking or snapping any joints.

Thanks! Oh, does it feature points of articulation you'd expect from a regular meant-for-play figure? It seems the leg movements are quite extensive but no so the arms.

DiFabio
02-17-2017, 08:29 AM
He's got ball jointed hips, knees and boots. The figure's joints and limbs are pretty thick though and the plastic they used are high quality. It's not like one of their cheapo Aliens that break at the slightest touch. He's durable.

The only thing fragile about him is the rubbery minigun he comes with. But even then, I don't think it would break under play.

DiFabio
02-18-2017, 08:00 AM
Here a-dev.












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P.
02-18-2017, 08:04 AM
wrong ammo bag haha. that's the one to bring the minigun in, not the bullets for it.
oh and that face looks like it ate a turd.

a-dev
02-18-2017, 08:10 AM
That gets the disappointment out of the way early then.

jye4ever
02-18-2017, 08:17 AM
:lol :lol :lol

I'll buy that for a dollar!

NECA make this $50 and it's a win!

MaulFan
02-18-2017, 08:30 AM
Makes me even more glad I have the Enterbay coming to me now, this would have been backup.

a-dev
02-18-2017, 09:03 AM
Bit of a let-down show to me personally. The coolest stuff is the stuff they debuted at last year's event - the 1:4 Turtles, Penguin and Catwoman...which I'm not sure I'll be buying because of the import expense.

Johnny Utah
02-18-2017, 09:12 AM
Glad I wasn't hyped. NECA are all talk.

jye4ever
02-18-2017, 09:16 AM
I'm ok with the new Cap because that Avengers Cap was all kinds of wrong.

But a Returns Batman would've been appreciated because of Catwoman.

Dr. Strange = Dr. Meh

Daredevil, cool I guess.

a-dev
02-18-2017, 02:05 PM
To be fair to NECA they're probably too good throughout the rest of the year with twitter reveals. Say if they'd not shown that 1:4 T-800 a couple of weeks ago or the Aliens Sentry Gun accessory pack, we would have at least been talking about those if we were seeing them here for the first time.

Regardless though, the lack of T2 John was always going to disappoint me no matter what. ''Surprise'' reveals of comic-based crap was never going to excite me but those sets do seem to have an audience.

Johnny Utah
02-18-2017, 02:13 PM
This event only covers the first 6 months of the year. They'll have Blade Runner and Aliens at SDCC.

jaxon
02-18-2017, 04:30 PM
I wish they put as much effort into the Terminator line, sculpt wise as they did on the 1/4 Ninja Turtle line. It shows signs of laziness.

Bezzerkerr
02-18-2017, 07:52 PM
they are a good 3-4 years too late with that new 1/4 T2.

holtrax
02-19-2017, 08:17 AM
they are a good 3-4 years too late with that new 1/4 T2.

Yeah not really sure what they are playing at releasing a 1/4 scale T2 figure. Its already been done by Enterbay and done much better..

a-dev
02-19-2017, 08:30 AM
But that figure is long sold out and was at a much higher price point in any case. I don't think there's anything wrong with them putting out a 1:4 T2 right now. They have to look at what sort of 1:4 scale collection they're building for their own fans and when they're making 90s Turtles, Burton Batman stuff, horror stuff, Marvel stuff, Alien and Predator then damn right Terminator deserves some representation there.

jye4ever
02-19-2017, 08:44 AM
Yup we want them to release more Terminator and Predator not less.

But NECA needs to focus on not remaining stagnant with license innovation.

Yes take some risks and expand.

henzINNIT
02-19-2017, 11:14 AM
Neca always pull out enough interesting surprises to make their shows memorable. I don't think this year was any different. As a Terminator fan above all else though, it's been too long since they dropped something I couldn't refuse.

a-dev
02-19-2017, 11:22 AM
Nothing new for me at this show but they are still my go-to toy company. As long as they're working on these licenses there is always hope. Hot Toys on the other hand have virtually disappeared off the map as far as I'm concerned.

FACEBOX
02-19-2017, 11:37 AM
NECA should make some Blomkamp figures.
I'd love me some District9, Chappie and Elysium figures.

scarrviper
02-22-2017, 11:44 AM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3920/32211071574_3d4ee726fa_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/R5oan1)T-1000 (https://flic.kr/p/R5oan1) by scarrviper (https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/), on Flickr

snoop101
02-22-2017, 11:59 AM
That looks awesome! Great pic. I always thought NECA did a good job sculpting Robert Patrick. Not perfect, but pretty close.

snoop101
02-22-2017, 01:58 PM
Does anyone know the true color of the plasma rifles in T2? Are they black/silver? Or just gun metal grey?

scarrviper
02-23-2017, 08:17 AM
That looks awesome! Great pic. I always thought NECA did a good job sculpting Robert Patrick. Not perfect, but pretty close.

Thanks! I think they did a good job with his likeness. The sculpts still hold up pretty well. I did have to add an extra coat of silver to the blade arm, it was bit dull looking right out of the box.


https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2207/32226230304_1a27f22035_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/R6HRwq)Steel Mill (https://flic.kr/p/R6HRwq) by scarrviper (https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/), on Flickr

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-23-2017, 02:43 PM
Neca


would love to be able to do Future War Reese & T2 John but don't think we could make a profit with them
NECA

https://twitter.com/NECA_TOYS/status/834877903359868928

GasparZizou
02-23-2017, 02:49 PM
They will do them.

I honestly can't believe they would be so detached from reality.

DiFabio
02-23-2017, 03:29 PM
You guys see the drama I initiated on twitter by suggesting NECA doesn't show Terminator enough love? :lol

It's amazing how many of those dudes drop in to polish Randy's knob. Who the heck is that Cobrashadowjoe guy that comments on everything?


EDIT:

Got banned, can't view their tweets anymore. :lol Touchy, touchy.

GasparZizou
02-23-2017, 03:41 PM
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Holy crap.

Also, we have one of those knob polishers in these boards too.

a-dev
02-23-2017, 03:44 PM
Disappointing bunch of tweets. And I see DiFabio is getting grief just for trying to make the case for John. Man.

-edit - oh there he is! Welcome back from the wars soldier!

DiFabio
02-23-2017, 04:00 PM
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Holy crap.

Also, we have one of those knob polishers in these boards too.


Yup, Randy's personal Merry Men at the scene of even the slightest criticism, every time. I even prefaced a couple of those tweets with praise and mentioned how much I love NECA, but still got "ur a troll", "he a troll", "TROLL".

Atleast I got him to admit some of his Aliens are poor sellers (or "slow sellers" as he put it :lol). I also got this sense based on the hostility from Randy and his boys that a lot of people are disappointed with their Terminator offerings. I looked on Facebook after his fan bois mentioned "annoying Terminator fans" and the people there are like us on here. At the end of the day, I appreciated him answering my questions, but I'm not even sure why he bothers to go on there. I've always appreciated him answering questions but when I think about it, he never really discloses anything of value as far as QnA is concerned. Though, I gotta admit from a PR perspective having someone there constantly retweeting people's praise and collection pics is a very good idea.

GasparZizou
02-23-2017, 04:31 PM
What did you say that got you banned?

Yeah it's cool that he answers, but NECA fans are pretty annoying, it's what usually ends up ruining any fandom.

DiFabio
02-23-2017, 04:38 PM
What did you say that got you banned?

Yeah it's cool that he answers, but NECA fans are pretty annoying, it's what usually ends up ruining any fandom.



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jye4ever
02-23-2017, 04:40 PM
Does polishing his knob at least get you goodies. :lol

a-dev
02-23-2017, 04:50 PM
@NECA_TOYS I think it's nice Randy talks to us at all. Most other companies don't. Be respectful everyone and appreciate what neca does

I agree with this completely and have said as much myself many times^

But that doesn't mean you have to be a total ****ing a$$lick and butt in on a conversation about something you yourself probably don't even give a ***t about judging by comments like ''annoying Terminator fans'' - if indeed that was said, I personally didn't see it.

GasparZizou
02-23-2017, 05:02 PM
Where does this concept of "Appreciate what I give you" come from? And why are people such cucks that they buy it? These are toys we're talking about, cheap plastic luxuries I can give myself every now and then, I pay for them, I do not need them, it's the demand I generate that gives NECA a niche to do business, do these guys believe NECA is providing us with basic necessities?

I like NECA but if I'm gonna praise someone, it's the original sculptors and the engineers for their work, the mass produced mold, re-mold, cast, re-cast I can live without, where does this god complex come from? It's gotta be due to these brown nosers.

It's pathetic.

DiFabio
02-23-2017, 05:04 PM
The NECA company is not happy with me--that's okay, I'll still keep buying that garbage.





https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/258262904091058176

a-dev
02-23-2017, 05:14 PM
^:lol :lol


Where does this concept of "Appreciate what I give you" come from? And why are people such cucks that they buy it? These are toys we're talking about, cheap plastic luxuries I can give myself every now and then, I pay for them, I do not need them, it's the demand I generate that gives NECA a niche to do business, do these guys believe NECA is providing us with basic necessities?

I like NECA but if I'm gonna praise someone, it's the original sculptors and the engineers for their work, the mass produced mold, re-mold, cast, re-cast I can live without, where does this god complex come from? It's gotta be due to these brown nosers.

It's pathetic.

We're ''never happy'', we just ''keep asking for more''. I know, shocking that as toy collectors we'd entreat a toy company to continue making more toys so we can give them more of our money.


Randy on twitter: and Newt can't sell well enough in the retail line which is why she was done as a con exclusive item then paired w Ripley v.2

OK. So can't the same strategy apply to John Connor? :huh I'll take it whatever way I can get it. Sure I'd prefer if he was in the regular line so I wouldn't be at the mercy of scalpers and I'd be able to buy him in large quantities for multiple scenes but if that can't happen, fine, I'll accept him as an exclusive and/or in a 2pack just like Newt.

GasparZizou
02-23-2017, 05:21 PM
:lol:lol:lol

Oh no, We keep giving them work, we never stop!

DiFabio
02-23-2017, 05:51 PM
OK. So can't the same strategy apply to John Connor? :huh I'll take it whatever way I can get it. Sure I'd prefer if he was in the regular line so I wouldn't be at the mercy of scalpers and I'd be able to buy him in large quantities for multiple scenes but if that can't happen, fine, I'll accept him as an exclusive and/or in a 2pack just like Newt.


Yup. And I tweeted those suggestions immediately after he said that to me. Got nothing though. He never replied to those suggesstions (I mentioned two packs and Kyle and an Endo being bundeled together too), he only went after my tweets where I mentioned Terminator getting shafted and that it would be nice to see something more than new legs.


So yeah, it's all about profit when it comes to Terminator. He said they only sell just "okay" compared to Aliens and Predators. Well no ****. They put in a lot more effort into those two than Terminator. That whole rebuttal about the cinemachines and the QS is BS because if the sales is what they're going to use to gauge interest for all things Terminator, than classic Terminator stuff is doomed. They've saved so much in tooling and little character selection that it's no wonder that they only do okay and not gangbusters.

I wanna buy more stuff but there's nothing to buy!

a-dev
02-23-2017, 06:01 PM
There's a lapse in logic aswell when they say things like ''be happy with what you have''. If I'm happy with what I have then I guess there's no need for me to buy anything else at all, is there?

Careful what you wish for Randy. :lol

jye4ever
02-23-2017, 06:05 PM
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DiFabio
02-23-2017, 06:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdk2Fs2CP0

jye4ever
02-23-2017, 06:13 PM
We need a NECA themed video with that out of control laughing dude on youtube. :lol

Vector
02-23-2017, 06:46 PM
Having fun reading back through all this.

Randy definitely strikes me as the kind of guy who would NOT give us a T2 John simply out of spite...

That being said, I think if we don't see him or any evidence of him at this years SDCC, it will be about the final nail in that coffin... for a while at least.

snoop101
02-23-2017, 06:47 PM
:lol Difabio getting ganged up on for calling NECA out on their laziness with Terminator? Sounds about right. I guess the lame neon Kenner predators and aliens is where all the money's at.

DiFabio
02-23-2017, 07:16 PM
That being said, I think if we don't see him or any evidence of him at this years SDCC, it will be about the final nail in that coffin... for a while at least.


It's been like that for years now. I forget which year and show it was, but they were hyping up Terminator 2 stuff and they never delivered. Every show for the past year or two in terms of Terminator have been disappointing. I remember all of us were chomping at the bit last summer to see what they were going to debut at SDCC and they didn't show jack ****. Hell forget John Connor for a second, they're not even doing anything new with pre-existing things they already have. An "Ultimate" Kyle Reese would be so easy. A Steel Mill T-800 and T-1000 with new legs would be simple and cost effective. Something, anything.


This was pathetic,


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It's so bad that they used that 3 year old Walmart Endoskeleton as space filler. They didn't even have sample boxes for the cinemachines. That "shelf" they had for it didn't even get any coverage from anyone at Toy Fair, which speaks volumes for the line as a whole.

a-dev
02-23-2017, 07:31 PM
Having fun reading back through all this.

Randy definitely strikes me as the kind of guy who would NOT give us a T2 John simply out of spite...

That thought occurred to me aswell. Jeez, what if we're pissing him off that much...


That being said, I think if we don't see him or any evidence of him at this years SDCC, it will be about the final nail in that coffin... for a while at least.

Well, what better time will there be than this year with T2 getting theatrically rereleased? So yeah, if John isn't shown at SDCC we can probably give up.

.....but then what the **** is that endoskeleton arm in the tube thing?!!! Why did they post that?! Why haven't they mentioned it since?! :gah:

snoop101
02-23-2017, 08:24 PM
If they made Newt they can make a John. No excuses. I was pretty stoked when I saw the endo arm In the tube pic they posted a while ago. If that's not for T2 John, then what a punch in the balls. It will
Probably be for some lame ass accessory pack. I just noticed they didn't even put in enough effort to sculpt some roses to go in that rose box. Haha for real?

Caped Baldy
02-24-2017, 03:18 PM
DiFabio, do you have screenshots of the other tweets you directed at Randy yesterday? 'Cos I only see the screen you posted a page back or two, and I see few replies on twitter about you saying something about 'Alien and Predator bros'. :lol

Just wondering because it sounded funny and I can't see your tweets. :lol

BetterThanKenobi83
02-24-2017, 03:37 PM
God damn DiFabio :rotfl :clap

But I agree with your sentiments that they should be doing more with the Terminator licence than what they are currently doing. Its just weird that its huge enough as the other two IMO so why are they not doing more with it ? The dreaded likeness rights issue again.

As for John Connor, would you guys be happy if they gave you the Sarah Connor Chronicles version that came with the female terminator played by Summer ? Or are we def wanting the T2 actor ?

a-dev
02-24-2017, 07:23 PM
Furlong all the way. I don't care that he had an annoying voice or overacted a few of his lines. It's about fully representing the very best Terminator films for me. So I'd also rather have T1 Linda Hamilton over Genisys Sarah Connor or even TSCC Sarah Connor, good as she was. In any case T2 John and T1 Sarah would be much more likely to be made than other versions.

DiFabio
02-24-2017, 07:58 PM
DiFabio, do you have screenshots of the other tweets you directed at Randy yesterday? 'Cos I only see the screen you posted a page back or two, and I see few replies on twitter about you saying something about 'Alien and Predator bros'. :lol

Nah, I deleted them after it was over like I've always done.

It started out like this. Someone posted a pic of their Terminator collection, said all it needs is a John and Reese or something. Randy was like "we'd love to, but they're hard sales, wouldn't do well". I chimed in and was like "tell that to all the candy Aliens shelf warming the stores. If Newt can sell and move product, so can John and Reese". He was like "the only Alien that's moving slowly is the face hugger queen, Newt was a two pack and exclusive, that doesn't count". Then I was like "put John Connor in a two pack with Arnold. Put Reese in a pack with an Endo". Then I saw he wasn't replying to me anymore and let it go.

Then NECA fanboys started chiming in with their eye rolling emojis saying I don't know about sales and that I should shut up. Randy couldn't resist and retweeted/liked/ and replied to them. So me being me, I responded "hey, I got Randy to admit that an Alien is a poor seller. I must know something about sales!" and Randy and his boys got all pissy with me. Then I was just like "you Alien and Predator bros are lucky, we Terminator fans are getting shafted, all we get are new legs" and Randy was like "We MAKE PLENTY OF NEW STUFF SARAH CONNOR, CINEMACHINES AND A QS ARNOLD, you're treadin' the line pal, keep it up and I'll block you". Finally, I was just like "that QS is about as new as a Gentle Giant Jumbo figure" and he blocked.

It was all petty. The people grovelling at Randy's feet were worse than he was. I saw some dude was politely defending me on there and they all attacked him and he blocked him. :lol

I wasn't the first and I won't be the last.




As for John Connor, would you guys be happy if they gave you the Sarah Connor Chronicles version that came with the female terminator played by Summer ? Or are we def wanting the T2 actor ?


There are only two John Connor figures I'd buy.

Hint: They're both from T2.

jye4ever
02-24-2017, 08:02 PM
That is just epic. :lol

a-dev
02-24-2017, 08:14 PM
His lack of response to the logical suggestion that they release John in the same way that they released Newt might be a good sign. Could be he's trying to throw us off as he has done in the past - just so as it will come as a bigger surprise if/when it happens. Least I hope so - that ****ing Endo-arm is from something we haven't seen yet. But yeah if John doesn't come out this year of all years then wtf. Will they even still have the license when the 30th anniversary comes around. The next big year after that will be 2029 FFS! :lol

DiFabio
02-24-2017, 08:23 PM
His lack of response to the logical suggestion that they release John in the same way that they released Newt might be a good sign. Could be he's trying to throw us off as he has done in the past - just so as it will come as a bigger surprise if/when it happens.

I thought this too. I also thought it was weird how he brought up Future Reese when nobody on there even suggested that yesterday.

If that is the case, and John and/or Reese are shown in the next 9 months, then he argued with me and blocked a customer over nothing. :lol I still don't get it. Everything I said was true.

But yeah, he lies all the time on there. Just last month people were like "hey, you're doing Ali vs Superman figures, how about Batman vs Predator". It's completely logical and a nobrainer. Then he was all "CAN'T DO THOSE, NOT HAPPENING". Then they ****ing pop this past week and it's like, at the time of those tweets you clearly had those planned there buddy. He's done this with Planet of the Apes, 7" DC movie figures, everything. I just don't get. If you want to keep it a secret, ok, that's cool, we get it. Just don't respond to anyone's inquiries. You can be mum without lying to people.

So lets say at SDCC John or Kyle pop up, why the hell did he fight with fans that wanted it only months earlier and tell them "ohhh, it wouldn't do well, not happening"? :lol

Kaiju
02-24-2017, 11:52 PM
Nah, I deleted them after it was over like I've always done.

It started out like this. Someone posted a pic of their Terminator collection, said all it needs is a John and Reese or something. Randy was like "we'd love to, but they're hard sales, wouldn't do well". I chimed in and was like "tell that to all the candy Aliens shelf warming the stores. If Newt can sell and move product, so can John and Reese". He was like "the only Alien that's moving slowly is the face hugger queen, Newt was a two pack and exclusive, that doesn't count". Then I was like "put John Connor in a two pack with Arnold. Put Reese in a pack with an Endo". Then I saw he wasn't replying to me anymore and let it go.

Then NECA fanboys started chiming in with their eye rolling emojis saying I don't know about sales and that I should shut up. Randy couldn't resist and retweeted/liked/ and replied to them. So me being me, I responded "hey, I got Randy to admit that an Alien is a poor seller. I must know something about sales!" and Randy and his boys got all pissy with me. Then I was just like "you Alien and Predator bros are lucky, we Terminator fans are getting shafted, all we get are new legs" and Randy was like "We MAKE PLENTY OF NEW STUFF SARAH CONNOR, CINEMACHINES AND A QS ARNOLD, you're treadin' the line pal, keep it up and I'll block you". Finally, I was just like "that QS is about as new as a Gentle Giant Jumbo figure" and he blocked.
I had the same experience about 2 years ago. I asked if they would make any of the other soldiers from Predator 1 or Harrigan from Predator 2. Randy and his fanboys gave me every excuse in the book about why those characters "wouldn't sell" and how "Arnold is the only real action star from the movies." They mass produced a 1/4 scale figure of the "Big Red" Predator from an indie fan film and made some nameless Weyland-Yutani commando from Alien 3, but the star of the 2nd Predator movie "wouldn't sell." I brought up the possibility of 2 packs and variants they could do to justify making them. After hours of the fanboys telling me how NECA fulfills everyone's wish and can do no wrong, Randy came right out with it and just admitted he hated the Predator 2 and blocked me.

I simply do not believe this stuff about what will or won't sell. The people who buy these figures are mostly the longtime (in many cases older) fans and if they make one of a character that has never been done before, it's fresh and more sought after. It's actually pretty mindblowing to me he takes the same stance about making a John Connor from T2. Kyle Reese was the playable character in $60 retail price Sega CD and Genesis games in the '90s. Won't sell?

snoop101
02-25-2017, 12:10 AM
Yeah I think Randy is playing us, or at least I hope so. Give us John and future war Reese. I'd be happy if those were the last two they ever made. I suppose id buy a battle damaged Terminator from T3, but I know NECA has no interest in that license.

jye4ever
02-25-2017, 02:52 AM
Well if young Connor is released a-dev will now have a life debt to DiFabio. :lol

a-dev
02-25-2017, 08:25 AM
I've very much gotten the impression he would make the P1 soldiers if he could. Whatever Randy's stance may have been in years past I think it changed. They've pursued Carl Weathers and he never responded. Not much NECA can do if the actors aren't interested. In situations like that I don't blame them.

Where I would try to persuade them is with the likes of John Connor and Harrigan - there appears to be no actor likeness barrier* and it's instead a case of no interest on Randy's part and/or fear about low sales.

*at least for John Connor, seems for Harrigan we don't know because they haven't tried. When asked if they had contacted Glover about it the answer was no whereas he recently said they theoretically could make John Connor

jye4ever
02-25-2017, 08:58 AM
If you had to choose which movie to complete your collection first would it be T2 over Predator?

I'm surprised you never ask for a kitchen Jenelle with knife arm and milk carton. :lol

a-dev
02-25-2017, 09:04 AM
If you had to choose which movie to complete your collection first would it be T2 over Predator?

I'm surprised you never ask for a kitchen Jenelle with knife arm and milk carton. :lol

That's a cruel scenario to put me in because of course while Terminator is as big of a deal as it is to me...the entire special forces team from P1 on the shelf would be...dayum.

As for Jenelle and other Terminator side-characters, I really wouldn't bother asking, I am somewhat realistic in my expectations :lol Make John Connor, the last remaining main character and I'll be happy.

and Pescadero Sarah with switch-out denim jacket :monkey3

jye4ever
02-25-2017, 09:25 AM
P1 special forces team just might look better on a shelf than all of the T2 characters together.

:chase

a-dev
02-25-2017, 09:40 AM
Honestly if any licenses are gonna get preferential treatment over Terminator I find it the least bothersome that it's Aliens and Predator as they are also among my favourite movies.

DiFabio
02-25-2017, 10:52 AM
Honestly if any licenses are gonna get preferential treatment over Terminator I find it the least bothersome that it's Aliens and Predator as they are also among my favourite movies.


But even then, it's still mostly garish variants that aren't even from the movies that I don't think you're interested in.

What did they make that you liked in the past year? Vasquez, Frost, Newt, and City Hunter? That's like 1/4 of what their output.

jye4ever
02-25-2017, 11:02 AM
a-dev didn't mention Robocop 1 and Die Hard 1. :monkey4

DiFabio
02-25-2017, 11:16 AM
a-dev didn't mention Robocop 1 and Die Hard 1. :monkey4




I think a-dev is one of them, he was assimilated!


We're going to have to give him the test. Someone tie him to a chair and see which one he prefers.



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jye4ever
02-25-2017, 11:33 AM
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

The word assimilated makes me now want The Thing characters. :slap

DiFabio
02-25-2017, 11:36 AM
Too niche, wouldn't sell. Would require all new molds and Mr. Thing's likeness rights are too expensive.

jye4ever
02-25-2017, 11:39 AM
Ok then how about a Beyonce Lady GaGa Alien Hybrid crossover? :lol

DiFabio
02-25-2017, 11:43 AM
When I think of assimilated I think of Kim Kardasian.

Quick, throw a predator mask onto her or something and sell that ****!

a-dev
02-25-2017, 01:22 PM
But even then, it's still mostly garish variants that aren't even from the movies that I don't think you're interested in.

What did they make that you liked in the past year? Vasquez, Frost, Newt, and City Hunter? That's like 1/4 of what their output.

There was also the Alien 3 wave...and the Alien Queen and Powerloader don't seem so long ago either...I don't feel like I've experienced any large barren patch with the Alien franchise...Predator maybe but that's only because I limit myself to P1 and P2 and they've been focussed on AvP for the past while and they seem to be doing a good job there.

The particular things I want at this point from Alien and Predator are mostly human figures and (we're told) they don't do as well at retail so I will never expect human figures to make up the bulk of their output. I'll take who I can get and just ignore most of the other stuff.

You know that annoying argument people make in defence of Hot Toys where we fans of older licenses are supposed to be thankful for the rainbow Iron Men and Porcelain Stormtroopers because it allows them to do more niche stuff supposedly (a single Ripley figure that they make us wait years for :rolleyes2 )? I think it better applies to this situation here, where all those nonsense candy coloured aliens and predators (which I'm guessing people must be buying) facilitate the production of human characters.

The thing that's getting on our craw is can't some of the profit from all this repainting and re-use be turned toward getting out just the single remaining primary character from T2. It's just....it feels rude if they don't make him. Especially after they made Newt for Aliens.


a-dev didn't mention Robocop 1 and Die Hard 1. :monkey4

A key word in my post was 'among'. Aliens and Predator are among my favourite movies. So rest assured Robocop and Die Hard are also up there. Now please call off your dogs, there's a tree branch digging into my back.

jye4ever
02-25-2017, 01:29 PM
sit DiFabio sit

:lol

DiFabio
02-25-2017, 02:27 PM
Yeah the only thing I get from the Aliens line is the Marines (since I've had terrible QC experiences with their actual Aliens and think Ripley is too ugly to own) so maybe the selection is a little better than what I made it out to be. I won't give you the Alien Queen and Powerloader though, because those feel old to me (they came out around the time of ED-209, which has to be a couple of years now since I can't remember when I got ED-209) but I forgot about baldy Ripley and the weyland yutani commando which were definitely 2016.

Still, I think all those variants are obnoxious and they definitely seem stuck in Kenner Land now with no end in sight. That blue Kenner one and the pink cotton candy are just downright irritating. I'm getting flashbacks from the early 90s where these lame ****ers were plaguing toy shelves for years at like KB toys. Alien and Predator DID NOT have the same prestige Kenner Star Wars, Kenner Batman and Kenner Jurassic Park had. I guess you can't really blame Randy and NECA since those are what sells (though I'm skeptical that they even do well when I see what's shelfwarming at my stores) but it is disappointing. I don't get what's going through some of these collectors' heads with all these multicolored Iron Men, Storm/Clone Troopers, Aliens and Predators. It's a disease. That variant concept bothered the hell out of me with Batman back in the day, but now companies are doubling up on it with everything else.

They are getting better with the human character selection Aliens, especially with Vasquez, but are things that dire over there that they need all those recycled Aliens and Predators to keep everything afloat? I think it's a damn shame that classic Terminator hasn't had a full fledged line since like 2011 where it was a reused T-800, reused T-1000 and a new Kyle Reese. These couple of Ultimates every few years is a real bummer. Would it kill them to get a wave that has a reused Arnold, reused T-1000 and then an all new John Connor something? Split the costs, profits and losses Wave by wave like Aliens. Can John not be short packed to make him more desirable? NECA has saved so much on new tooling with Terminator and this goes all the way back to 2009 where they consistently recycled and reused. In some instances, if just feels like they come off as a bunch of stingy cheapskates. If it's not their dodgy quality control where they're cutting corners, or telling people to take a hair dryer or boiling water to their toys, it's the character selection.

And if there are plans to offer more for 7" Terminator beyond a 3D Galleria and Robocop vs Terminator video game things, it's be nice to get some hints or a couple of winks or something. I can see Terminator not being as popular as Alien and Predator, but it's looking more like Robocop, Rocky and Rambo everyday. They don't even try to renege ride the Terminator brand with anything that groundbreaking. Then when that half assed Motorcycle Cop T-1000 sells poorly, the little cinemachines are left unsold, the blown up QS Arnold sits around and the Robocop/Terminator repaints pegwarm, we'll get the whole "Terminator just doesn't sell" spiel.




Tl;dr:

Maybe Terminator just isn't *gasp* a good seller. Obviously we can't see the numbers, but maybe Cameron's Terminator merchandise isn't as hot as we think they are and we're in the minority with want we want. I mean hell, a good majority of people didn't even seem to realize that there were Terminator figures before the Ultimate line and only have a passing interest in them. Maybe I'm the one that is out of touch and putting too much stock in Terminator's popularity. It's too bad Salvation and Genisys were garbage and didn't revitalize the brand like T2 did 26 years ago. Not even anniversaries or 3D rereleases seem to be doing any good.

snoop101
02-25-2017, 03:11 PM
Yeah I never understood the aliens and predators are what sells best stand point. I know I'm only seeing it from a customers point of view, but from my experience personally, there's always a TON of the weird colored Aliens and Predators on the shelfs. That's all there ever is. It's partially what makes seeing the occasional marine from Aliens so exciting, even if it is a secondary character like Frost.

Drone
02-25-2017, 03:13 PM
You know that annoying argument people make in defence of Hot Toys.... I think it better applies to this situation here, where all those nonsense candy coloured aliens and predators (which I'm guessing people must be buying) facilitate the production of human characters.

^This, and I think the twitter storm that led to DiFabio being banned, points to what I believe will be a growing challenge for NECA and their ability to continue releasing more of the occasional movie figures that we want.

I'm in agreement with the theories a few posts back about the likelihood that Randy is misdirecting us in his responses - at least about John Connor - so that we'll all be 'surprised' when the figure finally is revealed. And I absolutely agree that we will continue to get human characters in the Alien and Predator lines so long as those lines continue to thrive. But I think such characters will become less and less likely, and before long certain characters that might currently be possible (such as Reese, Harrigan, or Dallas in Nostromo gear) will actually become impossible.

I alluded to a some kind of 'growing challenge' above, and basically what I mean by that is this: the high profits that NECA sees from their repaints and re-uses, coupled with Randy's very successful engagement of his social media following is creating huge momentum for more of the same junk that we don't want, which will only make it all the more difficult for him to justify figures that require higher costs and greater effort to produce.

All that being said, I would like to try to convince you all (or at least those of you who still can - sorry DiFabio) to start being active (or more active) on NECA's twitter feed. There's a lot happening there that we can use to our advantage to influence Randy's perspective on what the fans want.

Drone
02-25-2017, 04:23 PM
Here's a good example from earlier today of the type of twitter conversations that could and should be happening more often:

https://twitter.com/NECA_TOYS/status/835534498490114048

It starts off with a familiar response from Randy dismissing any likelihood of Harrigan - nothing new there - but what's great is the numerous comments that follow in support of the original poster's request. Other fans chime in to express their hope for a Harrigan figure as well, and even start talking about how many different versions they want - and (at least so far) none of the brown-nosers have jumped in with their usual 'rolley-eyes' comments to try to shut anyone down.

In picking twitter battles, I think the correct strategy is not to try and convince Randy of any viewpoint that contradicts NECA's current product trends, but rather to reinforce and support the community of like-minded fans (who are already there on twitter, just seemingly outnumbered) so that all the praises and requests for more 'fan-fiction' figures are balanced out by praises and requests for more movie figures.

DiFabio
02-25-2017, 04:37 PM
Yeah, that's actually an impressive amount of responses and positivity towards Harrigan. And yeah, the usual suspects haven't ruined it yet.

They could make so many versions of Harrigan too with just the slightest of variations ala Arnold's Dutch.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-25-2017, 08:56 PM
a-dev didn't mention Robocop 1 and Die Hard 1. :monkey4

a-dev hasn't seen First Blood. :gah: :chase



Wait, let me fix that to make it more fair,

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Even Ash from ED2 is getting two new sculpts, accessories, and a new figure as part of a set. :dunno

a-dev
02-26-2017, 10:29 AM
That blue Kenner one and the pink cotton candy are just downright irritating.

Yeah I really can't understand the appeal of those. Some people call NECA figures junk, obviously I disagree, but to me those variants really are Happy Meal nonsense. How would they even have mass appeal? A casual shopper won't have the slightest idea why there's a ****ing pink Alien. I suppose the packaging might explain it, if they bother to look at it. Even then will they want it? I dunno.


I mean hell, a good majority of people didn't even seem to realize that there were Terminator figures before the Ultimate line and only have a passing interest in them.

That's something I noticed when looking at the youtube reviews for the various ultimate figures - most of them didn't have the originals. This was pretty frustrating since I really wanted to see comparisons. I was like ''do you guys even collect, bro?''


Here's a good example from earlier today of the type of twitter conversations that could and should be happening more often:

https://twitter.com/NECA_TOYS/status/835534498490114048

It starts off with a familiar response from Randy dismissing any likelihood of Harrigan - nothing new there - but what's great is the numerous comments that follow in support of the original poster's request. Other fans chime in to express their hope for a Harrigan figure as well, and even start talking about how many different versions they want - and (at least so far) none of the brown-nosers have jumped in with their usual 'rolley-eyes' comments to try to shut anyone down.

In picking twitter battles, I think the correct strategy is not to try and convince Randy of any viewpoint that contradicts NECA's current product trends, but rather to reinforce and support the community of like-minded fans (who are already there on twitter, just seemingly outnumbered) so that all the praises and requests for more 'fan-fiction' figures are balanced out by praises and requests for more movie figures.

Do we reckon Randy reads all these follow-up comments? I don't know exactly how twitter works.

Joda
02-26-2017, 11:45 AM
Yeah I really can't understand the appeal of those. Some people call NECA figures junk, obviously I disagree, but to me those variants really are Happy Meal nonsense. How would they even have mass appeal? A casual shopper won't have the slightest idea why there's a ****ing pink Alien. I suppose the packaging might explain it, if they bother to look at it. Even then will they want it? I dunno.

Strangely, I'm not even sure there are 'casual shoppers' for a company like NECA anymore. Aside from Toys R Us, there pretty much online only for most people (at least here in the states). They really are catering to a specific market, which sadly seems to be mostly the kind we see on their Twitter Feed... :rolleyes2

MaulFan
02-26-2017, 12:01 PM
Last I knew, the 2009 era Terminator figures go for like double retail now, so I'm sure for many, Ultimates have been first crack. Timing can suck, I had no collectibles cash when the original Dutch figures cMe out and seconday market prices are crazy, I'm very glad for the reissues.

ApeManRyan
02-26-2017, 12:25 PM
Man Randy and the Neca lovers are serious over a comment that is so true.... DiFabio should of never gotten banned for the truth. Even if you rehash some more figures that would still be better then nothing. Kyle or future Kyle or John Conner like all of you are asking. They just don't listen or they are hiding exciting news who knows. Neca and Randy as a whole are tricky to tell what's going on. The fan boys are more annoying then anything. They just care about the skittle line.

henzINNIT
02-26-2017, 02:22 PM
I'm a proud Neca fan-boy. They are hands down the best company in their field at this point, and have made so many impossible dreams come true. I got a great looking Terminator with Arnold's likeness, then every look I could ask for. Then a great T1000. Then a Tech Noir version. Then Kyle. Then Sarah. I've had many grails in this line, and that is a testiment to the company.

That said, I don't like Neca's hypocritical stance on the Terminator expanded universe. Randy has been clear that they won't touch anything beyond Cameron's films. That's quite limiting. They have pretty much scupted themselves into a corner at this point, exhausting the well of Arnold variants, and it appears that characters like John are going to be a hard sell when there are no "sure-fire" successes to package/release alongside him. Maybe Alien and Predator do just sell much more than Terminator does, but I can't help but think that part of the depth of those lines is Neca's willingness to pull from all of the films, games and spin-offs.

I want T3 figures. I hate Salvation, but there's some nice Stan Winston designs in there. There's a ton of stuff to mine from but they won't. That is frustrating.

a-dev
02-26-2017, 09:37 PM
I'm a proud Neca fan-boy. They are hands down the best company in their field at this point, and have made so many impossible dreams come true. I got a great looking Terminator with Arnold's likeness, then every look I could ask for. Then a great T1000. Then a Tech Noir version. Then Kyle. Then Sarah. I've had many grails in this line, and that is a testiment to the company.

I agree, they've done fantastically for us Aliens and Robots fans, leaving everyone else in the dust. And they've tackled other classic 80s licenses aswell, I'm thinking Rocky, Rambo, Conan, Gremlins, even E.T. Going back further they've done Planet of the Apes. Unfortunately most of these weren't big successes for them - Rocky must have done reasonably well that those figures are being reissued and Gremlins is an ongoing line. I think the others are dead though. But, y'know, they tried all those rather than just finding a money-maker and going with that to the exclusion of everything else.


That said, I don't like Neca's hypocritical stance on the Terminator expanded universe. Randy has been clear that they won't touch anything beyond Cameron's films. That's quite limiting. They have pretty much scupted themselves into a corner at this point, exhausting the well of Arnold variants, and it appears that characters like John are going to be a hard sell when there are no "sure-fire" successes to package/release alongside him. Maybe Alien and Predator do just sell much more than Terminator does, but I can't help but think that part of the depth of those lines is Neca's willingness to pull from all of the films, games and spin-offs.

I've thought about that aswell, the part in bold. I mean the upcoming rosebox figure would have been an ideal companion release for a John Connor but there they go blowing that opportunity. But maybe that won't stop them putting out yet another Galleria T-800 if/when they put out John. I can envision a T-800 and John 2 pack ala Ripley and Newt and the T-800 could get that new mid-torso joint from the 1:4 figure.

As far as exhausting the well of Arnold variants - not just yet actually, there's some from T1 they could do - one very distinct (eye surgery scene) and one not so distinct (Motel attack with jacket zipped up, technically the tanker truck version should also have a zipped up jacket). For T2 they could yet do an Ultimate Steel Mill T-800 and a SWAT assault version (no knee damage yet, teargas launcher)

Trouble is I'm not sure they care enough anymore to go ahead and do these, not with the way Randy talks about Terminator. Would he even think of some of these variants let alone consider them worthwhile making? And you know his stance on anything outside the Cameron films.

snoop101
02-26-2017, 09:41 PM
It's hilarious that Randy won't go near T3 or Salvation yet they made figures from Genisys.

Kaiju
02-26-2017, 10:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/zXhfBVk.jpg

jye4ever
02-26-2017, 10:32 PM
I don't think that's a good example as that movie is a holiday classic that plays 24/7 on some channels, you don't see T2 getting round the clock play like that.

Kaiju
02-26-2017, 10:37 PM
If they had some T-800, Sarah, and John box set like that you can't say it wouldn't sell.

snoop101
02-26-2017, 10:40 PM
Whenever Randy says that John Connor or any other character for that matter wouldn't be profitable they need to post a picture of that box set in response from here on out.

jye4ever
02-26-2017, 10:58 PM
If they had some T-800, Sarah, and John box set like that you can't say it wouldn't sell.

It would to us die hard geeks but I can also see why ACS got that treament and not T2.

Terminator is primarily known because of Arnold and Cameron, not druggie Furlong.

Furlong's life career destruction doesn't scream action figure like Arnold does.

snoop101
02-26-2017, 10:59 PM
Who do you think buys NECA figures? Die hard geeks. :lol

DiFabio
02-27-2017, 02:56 AM
Terminator is primarily known because of Arnold and Cameron, not druggie Furlong.

Furlong's life career destruction doesn't scream action figure like Arnold does.












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jye4ever
02-27-2017, 04:43 AM
Well they all had much longer careers than Furlong.

I mean people still talk about Corbain as if he's still alive while Furlong is alive and no one remembers him.

Also Christmas movies connect big in this country and besides Culkin was friends with the king of pop. :lol

P.
02-27-2017, 04:51 AM
Terminator is primarily known because of Arnold and Cameron, not druggie Furlong.

Furlong's life career destruction doesn't scream action figure like Arnold does.
i still wouldn't buy figures of Arnold or Cameron because... well because i just don't need figures of them. may be if i was a fan - nah, even then i'd prefer posters with photos of real people, not toys based on them, it would be just weird.
but i'd definitely buy figures of Terminator and his targets.

as for Furlong being not famous - well, who knows today who Kevin Peter Hall was? damn, people think predators are samurai cavemen from comics, so popular that even some movies were made later, as usual with comics.

also i think you're terribly mistaken, because for 99,9(9)% of fanboys terminator is primarily known for being a nice robot father of Furlong character.

so i think this career argument is not valid.

jye4ever
02-27-2017, 05:00 AM
Well when I say Arnold I really mean Terminator, Dutch, Matrix etc.

While their father son relationship was definately touching it is definately not what Terminator is remembered for, when people discuss Arnold Terminator it always boils down to one damn thing, "I'll be back".

That's all Arnold does now is walk around using his famous quotes in just about everything. :lol

Look I want them to make little Connor but i'm just trying to be realistic here, even Furlong's drug life is not talked about where the paparazzi still follow Culkin to this day! :lol

a-dev has final say in this matter anyways. :lol

P.
02-27-2017, 05:39 AM
Well when I say Arnold I really mean Terminator, Dutch, Matrix etc.
but you said "Terminator is primarily known because of Arnold and Cameron", not "Terminator is primarily known because of Dutch, Matrix etc".
but ok.
i, for example, have zero care about Dutch, Matrix, etc (especially that commando **** which makes me only puke, so cheap, gay, disgusting and second-hand it is. worse than Arnold's japanese advertisements in matter of acting, definitely his worst movie), compared to terminator characters.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZmQ5NGU5M2QtMmM0MS00ZjBiLThhOTEtNmNlOTg1NDUyZT [email protected]@._V1_.jpg

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i'd take a JC figure over any Commando stuff in a blink - because i need characters from a movie, not characters by the actor.


While their father son relationship was definately touching it is definately not what Terminator is remembered for, when people discuss Arnold Terminator it always boils down to one damn thing, "I'll be back".people on this very forum made statements that they either never saw T1 or saw it recently for the first or second time in their life! and it's just one forum, it's not even real life.
in real life while the majority may "remember" the ilbebak, they don't even know where it is from - and believe it's from T2.
i believe that you address to that very majority when explaining that Furlong is nobody. the majority that likes Schwarzenegger movies / Home alone movies / Iron Man movies and recognizes only highly popular roles. but they are those exact people who should recognize the figure, because mercury cop, young boy with a weird haircut and a noble cyborg are the only things they might remember from terminator universe as a whole :)
or so it was before that complete pile of crap - Gynysys.

jye4ever
02-27-2017, 06:21 AM
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Kaiju
02-27-2017, 06:25 AM
While their father son relationship was definately touching it is definately not what Terminator is remembered for, when people discuss Arnold Terminator it always boils down to one damn thing, "I'll be back".
I think you grossly undersell how popular of a movie T2 was. It's the entire reason some little Orion film from 1984 is a franchise now. Video games, theme park rides, etc.

jye4ever
02-27-2017, 06:35 AM
Yeah maybe I did undersell it quite a bit, T2 especially made big news because of the ILM tech breakthrough and for it being a really good movie backing up all that new cgi tech.

But all these years later the face of it all is Arnold and his quotes.

Now why Newt and not young Connor is the big mystery.

But look at the actress who played Newt, she retired from acting and is still invited back to studio events to hang out with Weaver and Cameron.

MaulFan
02-27-2017, 07:23 AM
I think it really omes down to interest of NECA as a company. I think the overall team is more excited about Aliens than Terminator so the line sees more effort and more obscure characters simply because they want to.

a-dev
02-27-2017, 07:38 AM
Well Randy said he 'would love' to make John Connor...again, I hold onto the hope that he's deliberately bull***ting us and that John is actually ready and waiting to go at SDCC maybe.

As DiFabio mentioned though, if that's the case, then he made a minor public spectacle of arguing with a fan over it just to preserve the secret when he could have just stayed silent and let DiFabio fizzle out

jye4ever
02-27-2017, 07:55 AM
John Connor needs to come with his hacking device, friend, minibike and an arcade machine or else fail. :lol

MaulFan
02-27-2017, 09:13 AM
I do think Randy enjoys the praise on Twitter and may at times build up the improbability of coming out with something so that when it is finally revealed people think it was a miracle. Some surely are, but others I feel like are possible all along. Kenner made John Connor, it comes with the T2 license.

DiFabio
02-27-2017, 09:21 AM
John Connor needs to come with his hacking device, friend, minibike and an arcade machine or else fail. :lol





I'd be happy with just his little computer, a removable backpack, the cased Endo arm and maybe the chip vial. :lol

Throw him and those things with a reused Steel Mill Arnold with articulated legs (and maybe a swap out arm) and a cardboard Steel Mill background and I don't see how that would be a poor seller. I think that's worth atleast taking a gamble or risk on. As previously stated, a lot of people weren't following the line in 2009 and were oblivious to the T2 offerings until the T2 Ultimates. They missed out on a ton of great Arnold and T-1000 figures. I don't see what potential customer, hardcore fan or casual shopper, wouldn't want a proper Battle damaged Arnold atleast.

Just as an experiment to test the Terminator market. I don't see how it would hurt NECA. They took gambles on a Ripley that doesn't even look like Sigorney Weaver, a huge ass Predator bike that was heavily discounted and a failure at retail, "slow moving" Kenner Aliens that featured all new sculpts, a little girl in overalls, a Terminator Genisys line that's still shelf warming stores etc. I mean, what if a John Connor is a huge success for them? That could segue to other things like a proper Kyle Reese and/or Future Reese.


From simply a toy perspective, I don't see how the left pair wouldn't be just as successful (or even more successful) than the right.


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I think it really omes down to interest of NECA as a company. I think the overall team is more excited about Aliens than Terminator so the line sees more effort and more obscure characters simply because they want to.


I do think Randy enjoys the praise on Twitter and may at times build up the improbability of coming out with something so that when it is finally revealed people think it was a miracle. Some surely are, but others I feel like are possible all along. Kenner made John Connor, it comes with the T2 license.



Yup, pretty much. Especially the latter post. You're exactly right.

I still think John and atleast a Kyle Reese are coming, I just don't understand why he wants to play games and act all coy about it. It just builds up a resentment on twitter. Posting a little text wink or wink emoji or simply not delving into specifics at all for a future figure you have planned isn't going to make you lose potential buyers for said item. Hell, perfect response to someone could just just be to say "maybe" or "we'll see" if you have to answer at all. For all we know, there is a test sample of a finished John Connor being worked on right now and when it finally is released it's going to make all those "not happening", "not likely", "he'd be a poor seller", "we'd like to but it's just not feasible" excuses that have been going on for years a little silly.

If/when John is released and shown off and Randy starts hyping it up as a "FIGURE MIRACLE!", I'm just going to roll my eyes, especially after that back and forth nonsense on twitter.

a-dev
02-27-2017, 09:27 AM
Nailed it. Also that picture affirms for me that the legs on the Hot Toys bodies are too long for Arnold. Short footpegs needed for all.

Actually can someone on twitter post Difabio's pic to their page or tag them or whatever...y'know, in a ''hint, hint NECA'' kind of way.

DiFabio
02-27-2017, 12:29 PM
Even Ash from ED2 is getting two new sculpts, accessories, and a new figure as part of a set. :dunno

I missed this. Great point. I just got a good look at that Ash with the actual new heads and parts and it's amazing (and also a two pack). It's a shame that the 3 Arnold's and 2 T-1000 figures didn't get that kind of luxury (well, besides the medical scissors, pistol and little John Connor picture I guess).

It sucks that they haven't given Reese this "Ash" treatment. The old figure from 2011 was just okay/borderline mediocre. I was with Maulfan on the likeness. I thought it was pretty good and that the paint apps (mostly in the eyes) brought it down. He really seemed half assed even at the time, especially when you consider what was coming out at the time. Even a year later, the original Ash (all of them) and both Corporal Hicks figures only came out a year later and were far better than that Reese. Oddly enough those two also have superior rereleases for this year before Kyle who really needs one. Reese was originally planned to have super articulated legs, but they cut those out to make him match the Arnolds. The glued down rope to the shot gun was baffling (could have easily assembled it so it could be slung under the shoulder/coat section) and he came with nothing. I wouldn't even count the shot gun as an accessory since it's attached to his body as a permanent fixture. There was no alternate head, no other weapons, no pipe bombs, nothing. The most interesting thing about him was his hidden ab crunch.

If sales were poor on that figure for them to view an Ultimate version of Kyle a risky endeavor that's not worth doing, then I wouldn't blame the customer for lack of sales, I'd put it on NECA for making such a mediocre figure in the first place.


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As much as I'd love a Future Reese and an Endo with a better body/build construction, I can see not making them, whatever. A John Connor and updated '84 Kyle Reese are pretty important though. While I'd love a T1 Sarah, I get how untoyetic she'd be. I'm happy to have her character represented with that Sarah Connor (which was "Ultimate" right out of the gate in every sense of the word with all those options). To me, the line is incomplete without John and a better Kyle Reese. If I could just get those two, I'd be happy.

Matt S
02-27-2017, 01:07 PM
When Mcfarlane had the T2 license and they showed this pic, I almost died and went to Nerd heaven:

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Of course, what we got was:

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Sigh, back when I lived in Ca and went to the San Diego comic con, one of the Mcfarlane guys boasted about having the prototype 2-up at his place. The jealously that rain through my veins is still felt...lol,

snoop101
02-27-2017, 01:29 PM
Kyle Reese definitely needs to be re-done. He ended up looking like a who from whoville.

jye4ever
02-27-2017, 01:30 PM
:lol :lol :lol

he really does

rjszar
02-27-2017, 01:39 PM
Kyle Reese definitely needs to be re-done. He ended up looking like a who from whoville.

I could never put my finger on it, but you are exactly right!

DiFabio
02-27-2017, 01:44 PM
NECA Grinch figure assortment when


























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snoop101
02-27-2017, 01:54 PM
:rotfl :lol :lol

Vector
02-27-2017, 02:01 PM
NECA Grinch figure assortment when

Max dog from Mount Crumpit and Max that dies as Wolfie... in the directors cut at least.

They could make a Grinch G-1000 who's finger turns into a pointed candy cane... poor Max.

P.
02-27-2017, 03:07 PM
From simply a toy perspective, I don't see how the left pair wouldn't be just as successful (or even more successful) than the right.

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=327188&d=1488212394
Nailed it. Also that picture affirms for me that the legs on the Hot Toys bodies are too long for Arnold. Short footpegs needed for all.damnit i just replaced everything with long ones. i'm not falling for accuracy now :)

a-dev
02-28-2017, 09:43 AM
As much as I'd love a Future Reese and an Endo with a better body/build construction, I can see not making them, whatever. A John Connor and updated '84 Kyle Reese are pretty important though. While I'd love a T1 Sarah, I get how untoyetic she'd be. I'm happy to have her character represented with that Sarah Connor (which was "Ultimate" right out of the gate in every sense of the word with all those options). To me, the line is incomplete without John and a better Kyle Reese. If I could just get those two, I'd be happy.

I dunno, I'd like to think the Newt scenario might work for T1 Sarah aswell.


When Mcfarlane had the T2 license and they showed this pic, I almost died and went to Nerd heaven:

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I was blown away by that at the time - apart from, of course, the hair. Always thought it was too short. Now though even the face doesn't look all that good.


damnit i just replaced everything with long ones. i'm not falling for accuracy now :)

I was previously about getting all my T-800s the same height - that meant some figures had short pegs and some had long pegs. However now I'm more about getting the internal proportions more accurate for each Arnie - it pretty much means using short pegs for all figures even if some figures end up being shorter than others overall.

MaulFan
03-04-2017, 01:03 PM
Finally got Pops today and now have every NECA Terminator I want from what they've made. Did some custom blood and metal paint to give him more damage on the face like the movie and make the exposed Endo area seem more the films where it was a practical effect.

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BetterThanKenobi83
03-04-2017, 06:35 PM
It amazes me that NECA have not taken advantage of the Terminator line with all the comics, books and movies they have to draw from yet seem to want to stick like death to the first two. Is this all Randy's preference or just that no one else likes the other movies or comics ? I know Salvation and Genesis had their haters, but some of the robot designs were pretty cool I thought.

henzINNIT
03-05-2017, 03:08 PM
I agree, they've done fantastically for us Aliens and Robots fans, leaving everyone else in the dust. And they've tackled other classic 80s licenses aswell, I'm thinking Rocky, Rambo, Conan, Gremlins, even E.T. Going back further they've done Planet of the Apes. Unfortunately most of these weren't big successes for them - Rocky must have done reasonably well that those figures are being reissued and Gremlins is an ongoing line. I think the others are dead though. But, y'know, they tried all those rather than just finding a money-maker and going with that to the exclusion of everything else.

Still hugely fond of the Bioshock figure line. They got further into that than I'd expect nowadays too, though I'd love more. Sadly there is always something you wish had been made before the line ends. I can't be too frustrated with Neca because I never thought I'd have as many Terminator characters as I do already.

Fairly confident John will appear somewhen too.


I've thought about that aswell, the part in bold. I mean the upcoming rosebox figure would have been an ideal companion release for a John Connor but there they go blowing that opportunity. But maybe that won't stop them putting out yet another Galleria T-800 if/when they put out John. I can envision a T-800 and John 2 pack ala Ripley and Newt and the T-800 could get that new mid-torso joint from the 1:4 figure.

Rosebox Terminator was definitely the time to drop a John Connor figure. Missed opportunity there. I can only hope that the reissue was profitable enough to invest in something more interesting in future. This is how you theoritically pay for something more risky like John.


As far as exhausting the well of Arnold variants - not just yet actually, there's some from T1 they could do - one very distinct (eye surgery scene) and one not so distinct (Motel attack with jacket zipped up, technically the tanker truck version should also have a zipped up jacket). For T2 they could yet do an Ultimate Steel Mill T-800 and a SWAT assault version (no knee damage yet, teargas launcher)

Trouble is I'm not sure they care enough anymore to go ahead and do these, not with the way Randy talks about Terminator. Would he even think of some of these variants let alone consider them worthwhile making? And you know his stance on anything outside the Cameron films.

Honestly I can see why these haven't been made. They're all pretty close to existing versions. They'd pretty much be filler for a wave, and with nothing more substantial to achor a line I don't expect to see them. I'll pick up a T-800 with the tear gas launcher. T2 makes you oddly fond of all the weapons.

I would be down for a Pescadero Sarah too. Still don't understand why 2029 Kyle and John aren't on Neca's radar.


It's hilarious that Randy won't go near T3 or Salvation yet they made figures from Genisys.

I want a T3 Arnold, and a TX, maybe a T600.

Wolf_predator
03-06-2017, 12:04 AM
I still can't understand why wouldn't Randy choose to create Aliens diorama pieces for fans, things like the hive wall and the lab would definitely sell, it seems like they are addicted to the Kenner lines now which is fine for me although I never bought one. However for movie fans which is me would want more movie based figures and dioramas for the upcoming release

memyselfi
03-06-2017, 11:47 AM
bad news again
NECA‏Verified account @NECA_TOYS 45m45 minutes ago

NECA Retweeted Damn Chocobo - Rich

Don't think so. It's a different license & not part of our existing deal

NECA added,
Damn Chocobo - Rich @damnchocobo
@NECA_TOYS Any chance you'll eventually touch on T3 since you guys have been willing to figs based on the weaker Predator and Alien movies?
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a-dev
03-06-2017, 02:35 PM
Honestly I can see why these haven't been made. They're all pretty close to existing versions. They'd pretty much be filler for a wave, and with nothing more substantial to achor a line I don't expect to see them.

I was actually viewing those as the anchor figures in any given wave they would appear in :lol

A motel attack T-800 (with his jacket zipped up and belted and with a shoulder sling on the AR-18) may not look strikingly different from existing figures but it would be as recognisable as the Police Shootout version and as such it would attract just as much casual buyers alongside the obsessives like me who will buy everything. And they shouldn't really care that it's so similar to their previous Police Shootout figure as long as that figure is by then sold out - they're merely putting a popular Terminator back on the shelves.

As for the Eye Surgery look - sure, obviously a very scene-specific version to do but they did it for T2 with that Man or Machine figure. Released alongside Motel Attack T-800 it would do OK, it would sell slower maybe but so what, there's always something that sells slower than something else.


bad news again

That's actually the best answer he's given on the subject of T3/T4 figures.

DiFabio
03-06-2017, 03:15 PM
Gotta love this. The guy specifically asks about what their plans are for 7" figures only.


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"Muh 4" Cinemachines micro machines"

"Muh blown up 18" Arnold"


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So no plans. :lol

jye4ever
03-06-2017, 03:35 PM
Use a blow dryer and call us is the morning....actually, just don't call us.

Caped Baldy
03-06-2017, 03:49 PM
You'll have your damn Cinemachines line and you'll like it, damn it! :lecture

:lol

jye4ever
03-06-2017, 04:08 PM
I went to a second toys r us after work today and once again every grid alien head was broken off in their double pack with the Predator.

Now that's battle damage lol.

snoop101
03-06-2017, 05:36 PM
I hope Randy saying they have "no plans" is still him being coy about a few surprises they might have in store for us at comic con. I know I'm being optimistic but The endo arm in the tube has to be for something. Someone on Twitter should flat out ask what that was for.

DiFabio
03-06-2017, 05:39 PM
Someone on Twitter should flat out ask what that was for.

I did, he straight up ignored me. I asked at the same time he was answering my tweets (making sure to include the said photo too). In that time, he answered my tweets seconds/minutes before the Endo arm one and my tweets seconds/minutes after that Endo arm one, so surely he saw it.

Hell, it's just a reused Endo arm in a little plastic tube. Wouldn't surprise me if it's never brought up (or seen) again. It had to have been for John since he's always saying that a Terminator accessory pack is a tough sell and that there's nothing worthwhile to include in it. Unless it was for some kind of Ultimate Steel Mill Arnold, which would be really lame.

snoop101
03-06-2017, 06:13 PM
NECA has done more with T1 and T2 and its characters than any or company has or probably will. To think that John isn't going to be made because he's a "tough sell" is beyond frustrating. He's literally who T2 revolves around and one of the few characters they haven't done. They need to make that sh** happen.

a-dev
03-06-2017, 06:15 PM
If John isn't a Newt-style SDCC exclusive this year (with that endo-arm being one of the accessories) I might, at that point, finally give up hope and stop expecting him at every toy event. What better year could there be to put him out than the year of a publicised 3D anniversary rerelease of the movie. This Summer or we might aswell forget about it.

snoop101
03-06-2017, 08:11 PM
Yeah I think you're right a-Dev, it's this year or nothing.

a-dev
03-06-2017, 10:31 PM
To think that John isn't going to be made because he's a "tough sell" is beyond frustrating.

Yep. To reiterate DiFabio


From simply a toy perspective, I don't see how the left pair wouldn't be just as successful (or even more successful) than the right.


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jye4ever
03-07-2017, 05:11 PM
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jye4ever
03-08-2017, 09:30 AM
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a-dev
03-08-2017, 09:39 AM
Nicely done, nicely done. Looking forward to setting up the 1:4 scaler like that.

jye4ever
03-08-2017, 09:43 AM
Coming from you that actually means alot so thank you.

I forgot that the inside of the box had that art work.

I said screw it before I throw it away let me just take some photos of him standing inside of the box lol.

It's amazing just how much inner peace I find taking photos of my toys.

My wife totally does not get it lol.

Now, will you have a background for the 1/4 or you mean just posing him like that.

a-dev
03-08-2017, 10:34 AM
Just posing him like that with the minigun at 1:4 scale. I never did it with the Enterbay figure...well actually I might have tried it once but was never satisfied to leave it like that because it compromised the BD look by stealing the grenade bandolier. Also, that hair...and the grenades were too few and too small.

jye4ever
03-08-2017, 10:44 AM
Yeah shame that the 1/4 Enterbay was not able to fully deliver on that front, plus the 1/4 mini gun seems undersized but that could just be me and that would just be a minor nitpick anyways.

Wow never realized how warped my NECA minigun was until I looked at these photos.

Hairdryer here I come, since I have no hair hairdrying is only for toys.

NECA should really change their name to:

HECA: Hairdry Every Colllectible Asap

P.
03-08-2017, 03:01 PM
http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=328987&d=1488990555
mantis pose :clap
i love that the terminator in that scene aims with a MINIGUN so much, always nice to see the pose achieved.

a-dev
03-08-2017, 03:06 PM
Wow never realized how warped my NECA minigun was until I looked at these photos.

It doesn't look too bad. Sadly I think it's probably accurate to say that most of the NECA miniguns were warped to at least some degree, a smaller percentage of them warped to an horrific degree.

DiFabio
03-08-2017, 03:44 PM
Pull up a pic of how the minigun should look. Boil a small pot of water. Stick the minigun in there for about 60 seconds. Quickly form it to how it should look. Then immediately run it under cold water.

OR

Do what I did and just use the original 2009 minigun that came with Cyberdyne Shootout T-800. That thing wasn't made out of rubbery plastic.


Also, great shots Jye. I love those backgrounds NECA included with the figures, I sometimes use them as well. Though, as with everything else they got lazy with Tech Noir, Police Shootout and Motorcycle Cop T-1000. Coulda had a cool TECH NOIR bar background scene, or the police station, or the Steel Mill. Something.

jye4ever
03-08-2017, 04:36 PM
mantis pose :clap
i love that the terminator in that scene aims with a MINIGUN so much, always nice to see the pose achieved.

Thank you for the errr mantis compliment, is that like a kung fu thing! :hi5:

Oh wait, you literally mean a mantis arm pose don't you lol

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Pull up a pic of how the minigun should look. Boil a small pot of water. Stick the minigun in there for about 60 seconds. Quickly form it to how it should look. Then immediately run it under cold water.

OR

Do what I did and just use the original 2009 minigun that came with Cyberdyne Shootout T-800. That thing wasn't made out of rubbery plastic.


Also, great shots Jye. I love those backgrounds NECA included with the figures, I sometimes use them as well. Though, as with everything else they got lazy with Tech Noir, Police Shootout and Motorcycle Cop T-1000. Coulda had a cool TECH NOIR bar background scene, or the police station, or the Steel Mill. Something.

TY!

Yeah I was going to do a Tech Noir photo shoot with the background until I saw the tunnel background lol

memyselfi
03-08-2017, 04:58 PM
It doesn't look too bad. Sadly I think it's probably accurate to say that most of the NECA miniguns were warped to at least some degree, a smaller percentage of them warped to an horrific degree.
I have two of the horrific's from the Ultimate's, bad enough I cut the barrel assemble off and made replacements out of styrene, FWIW the Video game Endo heavy gunner M-134 was the best of all.

P.
03-08-2017, 05:07 PM
Thank you for the errr mantis compliment, is that like a kung fu thing! :hi5:

Oh wait, you literally mean a mantis arm pose don't you lolyep. somebody called it "mantis pose" once and it kinda stuck.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ufs5OzkelIU/VJc7FxqE_dI/AAAAAAAAh0I/53lUxTqeqLc/s1600/Terminator2_395Pyxurz.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0l7l_lkNUX8/VJc65SN5PDI/AAAAAAAAh0A/eFsvqCUxF1I/s1600/Terminator2_389Pyxurz.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/d/d6/T2JDHandheldMinigun-6.jpg/600px-T2JDHandheldMinigun-6.jpg

that's exactly what you did, while normally people do this, labeled "firehose pose".

http://www.figures.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1323&stc=1&d=1254947668

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/13/c2/94/13c294f4010628f1968846393ca6cfd5.jpg

http://orig07.deviantart.net/74b5/f/2010/151/0/7/hot_toys_arnold_terminator_800_by_somethinggerman. jpg

http://www.figures.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=57512&stc=1&d=1356962777

https://previews.123rf.com/images/danomyte/danomyte1105/danomyte110500013/9618971-Pompier-Handsome-l-aide-d-un-tuyau-d-incendie--Banque-d'images.jpg

jye4ever
03-08-2017, 05:13 PM
Yeah i've heard a-dev mention his arm pose so many times I made sure I wasn't going to be posting any firehose arm poses.

Here I was thinking that Mantis was a cool european compliment lol.

a-dev
03-08-2017, 05:31 PM
You're so mantis Jye, and you don't even know it.

jye4ever
03-08-2017, 05:50 PM
I'm going to make NECA's minigun great again.

P.
03-08-2017, 06:38 PM
Here I was thinking that Mantis was a cool european compliment lol.you have a very positive attitude towards life if you think of a compliment first and not of an insult :lol

jye4ever
03-08-2017, 07:36 PM
My glass is always half full my friend p. :duff:

P.
03-08-2017, 07:44 PM
My glass is always half full my friend p. :duff:
then i guess i'm the third here:

http://soulati.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/glass.jpg

jye4ever
03-08-2017, 07:47 PM
:lol :lol :lol :lol

Stefan
03-09-2017, 09:45 AM
My recent custom flip the legs and make a resin cast knee:
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a-dev
03-09-2017, 10:03 AM
Nice. I'm planning the same thing when the Rosebox figure comes out. How come you had to make a resin cast knee though? You had the other BD parts like the torso, head and arm - no knee to spare from an older figure?

rjszar
03-09-2017, 12:14 PM
Cool little dio available on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NECA-TERMINATOR-2-figure-diorama-Galleria-Showdown-LIMITED-EDITION-/152466010865?hash=item237faeb2f1:g:DXMAAOSw2gxYsA5 B
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a-dev
03-09-2017, 12:32 PM
And bought. Thanks for the headsup. Did you buy one?

Looking at his feedback it seems he made a T1 Police Shootout diorama and an Alien 3 diorama aswell. Can't seem to call up any images of them though.

rjszar
03-09-2017, 12:33 PM
And bought. Thanks for the headsup. Did you buy one?

Looking at his feedback it seems he made a T1 Police Shootout diorama and an Alien 3 diorama aswell. Can't seem to call up any images of them though.

I did not. May in the future though.

a-dev
03-09-2017, 12:39 PM
I couldn't possibly turn that down. But man I'm not gonna save any money this year...so far it's just been spend spend spend.

rjszar
03-09-2017, 12:40 PM
Weird that no images come up for the T1 dio. Nothing in completed listings at all. Did a Google search though, and this was an ebay listing at one time. Maybe this is it.
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snoop101
03-09-2017, 01:12 PM
That does look neat. But it seems rather cheap. By that I mean isn't it just pieces of wood with printed images glued to it? I'm mainly referring to the Pepsi machine.

a-dev
03-09-2017, 01:15 PM
Maybe. But it'll do.

MaulFan
03-09-2017, 01:18 PM
Might look cheap in some photos, but as small as the figures on, on a shelf being viewed from 5 feet away it would look just fine.

snoop101
03-09-2017, 01:22 PM
:lol Any collectible viewed from five feet away would look fine.

DiFabio
03-09-2017, 01:28 PM
I couldn't possibly turn that down. But man I'm not gonna save any money this year...so far it's just been spend spend spend.



You're spending like a madman!

*rushes to go buy some super sculpey and make some cheap Terminator related thing so a-dev buys it from me*

rjszar
03-09-2017, 01:31 PM
Hey, you buy it when you see it, otherwise you'll regret it when it's gone.

a-dev
03-09-2017, 03:56 PM
You're spending like a madman!

*rushes to go buy some super sculpey and make some cheap Terminator related thing so a-dev buys it from me*

:horror You wouldn't.....

a-dev
03-09-2017, 04:19 PM
Meant to say - I put on the Galleria scene in the movie and funnily enough the camera angles mostly capture the opposite wall to the one depicted in the little diorama - a white brick wall.

jye4ever
03-09-2017, 04:23 PM
:horror You wouldn't.....

DiFabio is working on a premium John Connor for you.

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a-dev
03-09-2017, 04:32 PM
Hnnnnnggg!

*Cursor hovers over send payment button* Tell me when DiFabio, tell me when

a-dev
03-09-2017, 04:38 PM
None of these are mine, the last one is NECA's diorama they had at various shows

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I want them all. The execution of the first one isn't perfect but it is a moment in the film I'd like to have on my shelf. Good backdrop for it.

jye4ever
03-09-2017, 04:45 PM
Hnnnnnggg!

*Cursor hovers over send payment button* Tell me when DiFabio, tell me when

:lol :lol :lol

jye4ever
03-09-2017, 04:47 PM
None of these are mine, the last one is NECA's diorama they had at various shows

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I want them all. The execution of the first one isn't perfect but it is a moment in the film I'd like to have on my shelf. Good backdrop for it.

My pose > Neca pose. :yess:

snoop101
03-09-2017, 04:57 PM
Meant to say - I put on the Galleria scene in the movie and funnily enough the camera angles mostly capture the opposite wall to the one depicted in the little diorama - a white brick wall.

I noticed that too, It does make the diorama more interesting though. When the t-800 goes down the hall just before the Pepsi machine there's literally nothing interesting that stands out for a diorama.

Stefan
03-10-2017, 07:03 AM
Nice. I'm planning the same thing when the Rosebox figure comes out. How come you had to make a resin cast knee though? You had the other BD parts like the torso, head and arm - no knee to spare from an older figure?

I never like the pose in the final battle figure, is not natural at all, arnie shoud limping with the damaged leg, not lean on it, and I didn't want't to ruin the figure alos, so I took the knee apart but the pegs are inverted, so make a silicone mold, cast the knee, invert the pegs, make some sanding 'cause is not the exact same knee, and paint it.
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DiFabio
03-10-2017, 07:15 AM
so I took the knee apart but the pegs are inverted


Hnnnnggggg

Why does NECA do this. Always making what could be simple swaps, impossible by making parts incompatible.

a-dev
03-10-2017, 10:04 AM
Hnnnnggggg

Why does NECA do this. Always making what could be simple swaps, impossible by making parts incompatible.

Yyyepp. There goes my plans for that custom.

Stefan
03-11-2017, 01:19 PM
Hnnnnggggg

Why does NECA do this. Always making what could be simple swaps, impossible by making parts incompatible.

well, the fun part of this is to solve the problems that neca kindly give us :lol

jye4ever
03-15-2017, 12:29 PM
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Vector
03-15-2017, 12:48 PM
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In Arnold voice: It's nat a toomah!! It's nat a toomah, at all...

Awesome pic!!

jye4ever
03-15-2017, 01:15 PM
Thanks...I like to mess around with photos.

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Caped Baldy
03-15-2017, 04:34 PM
Thanks...I like to mess around with photos.

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Looks like a Siamese triplet Terminator experiment gone wrong. Reported and impeached for giving a-dev ideas for customs. :lol

jye4ever
03-15-2017, 05:43 PM
lolol

I still can't believe that's a toy in that pic. :thud:

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P.
03-15-2017, 09:02 PM
new best minigun position.

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1.Cv8LFXXXXX1XVXXq6xXFXXXh/-NO-box-Free-Shipping-NECA-The-font-b-Terminator-b-font-font-b-2-b.jpg

Vector
03-16-2017, 07:07 PM
My newest Terminator mini diorama.


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P.
03-16-2017, 07:18 PM
wooooow. that diorama doesn't look like miniature toy at all.

Vector
03-16-2017, 07:25 PM
wooooow. that diorama doesn't look like miniature toy at all.

Thanks. I am calling them mini dios because I am trying to fit them all on the same shelf in about a 10" x 10" space each. Maybe I will just start calling them shelf dioramas and drop the mini part :lol

P.
03-16-2017, 07:44 PM
i meant it's impossible to tell how small this thing is, i'd easily believe it's for 1/6 :clap

Vector
03-16-2017, 07:51 PM
i meant it's impossible to tell how small this thing is, i'd easily believe it's for 1/6 :clap

Cool! Thanks P.

a-dev
03-16-2017, 08:22 PM
i meant it's impossible to tell how small this thing is, i'd easily believe it's for 1/6 :clap

Phew! Gotta say initially I read your post differently. :lol

Vector that's an excellent diorama! *amiable smile abruptly changes to grave and serious expression* Give it to me.

And then rjszar can give me his Sarah Connor and everyone will be happy. *smile returns*

Vector
03-16-2017, 08:39 PM
Phew! Gotta say initially I read your post differently. :lol

Vector that's an excellent diorama! *amiable smile abruptly changes to grave and serious expression* Give it to me.

And then rjszar can give me his Sarah Connor and everyone will be happy. *smile returns*

Thanks man! Maybe I should start an interest thread in the Customs section :lol

a-dev
03-16-2017, 08:43 PM
Thanks man! Maybe I should start an interest thread in the Customs section :lol

Now don't say that if you don't mean it :lol

Vector
03-16-2017, 09:01 PM
Now don't say that if you don't mean it :lol

Just joking about that really. It would be difficult and time consuming to replicate the dioramas into a finished or kit form that I could sell for any kind of reasonable price. It takes me long enough just to make, buy and finally set up all the parts the one dio for myself :lol

a-dev
03-16-2017, 09:02 PM
I can understand that. :duff

rjszar
03-17-2017, 01:36 AM
That's a great little diorama right there! Nicely done. I hope I don't get the bug to start doing 1/10 dios. Saw that Galleria hallway set on ebay and had to restrain myself, now this. I'm working on a 1/6 Tech Noir dio right now, but it's the shot of Sarah sitting at the table with Arnie aiming the .45 at her. Just gotta finish that weird grate top table and mesh chairs. Maybe I should add something like this dio to it with the bar and Kyle standing by it. MUST.........RESIST!

Vector
03-17-2017, 06:17 AM
That's a great little diorama right there! Nicely done. I hope I don't get the bug to start doing 1/10 dios. Saw that Galleria hallway set on ebay and had to restrain myself, now this. I'm working on a 1/6 Tech Noir dio right now, but it's the shot of Sarah sitting at the table with Arnie aiming the .45 at her. Just gotta finish that weird grate top table and mesh chairs. Maybe I should add something like this dio to it with the bar and Kyle standing by it. MUST.........RESIST!

Thanks rjszar!. Your 1/6 T1 Sarah is awesome. The dio that you are making is going to look great.

ApeManRyan
03-17-2017, 06:20 AM
My newest Terminator mini diorama.


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This is just too awesome wow.

Vector
03-17-2017, 06:56 AM
This is just too awesome wow.

Thanks very much!!

DoggieDoc
03-20-2017, 04:03 PM
Here's a short video showing a couple of the 1:4 scale weapons I have modeled and had printed.


https://youtu.be/JUzq47HynFc

Vector
04-05-2017, 09:34 AM
From Toyark:

http://news.toyark.com/2017/04/05/neca-terminator-2-3d-special-edition-t-800-final-packaging-248444

Official in-package photos of the upcoming Terminator 2: Judgement Day 3D – Special Edition 7″ Scale Galleria T-800 Figure have been released by NECA. The figure ships out to retailers in a few weeks and should be on shelves by early May.

For the first time ever, as part of the film’s 25th anniversary celebration, Terminator 2 is being released in theaters in 3D!

To celebrate the historic occasion, NECA is releasing a Galleria version of the chilling T-800 with accessories that’ll let you reenact one of the film’s most iconic scenes. You know the one: the mind-blowing slow-motion sequence at the Galleria Mall when the Terminator whips out a shotgun hidden in a box of roses and saves young John from the T-1000.

The 7” scale action figure features the likeness of Arnold Schwarzenegger and over 25 points of articulation. It comes with two interchangeable head sculpts, pistol, and a shotgun that fits inside the included rose box. The window box packaging features the new 3D release logo and branding.


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I will probably get this so that my Harley riding T-800 will be more accurate.

a-dev
04-05-2017, 09:45 AM
NECA: To celebrate the historic occasion, NECA is releasing a Galleria version of the chilling T-800

They keep using that word. Not a word I would use for the T2 T-800.

Vector
04-05-2017, 09:52 AM
They keep using that word. Not a word I would use for the T2 T-800.

Yeah, if any T2 Terminator was chilling in demeanor or by being actually frozen it was the T-1000.


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a-dev
04-05-2017, 09:52 AM
:lol :exactly:

snoop101
04-05-2017, 10:17 AM
*yawn*

Where's John? (T-1000 voice)

a-dev
04-05-2017, 10:31 AM
For those of us who've been collecting the line since the start it's definitely a yawn release. Not even any roses in the rosebox or a new hand for holding it properly.

Having said that I've got 5 of them on preorder for various kitbashing purposes - scenes where different leg stances would be better than the fixed pose of the older figures. They can't say I'm not supporting the line.

DiFabio
04-05-2017, 07:51 PM
Yeah, I'm not supporting that crap. I bought extras of the Ultimate T-800 for that exact purpose when Randy was saying they weren't interested in doing a Galleria. **** that rose box figure. It's going to be like that crappy Endoskeleton and the Big Chap Alien where they mass produce them en masse and it shelf warms at Toys R Us, Walmart and FYE for years. I actually think the Endoskeleton is getting rererereleased as well. Saw him popping up the other day and figured it was yet another batch (at this point, they're almost black rubber from the amount of times NECA has produced that thing. Must be something about their black plastic being more prominent than dirt).

I'm done with NECA's Terminator stuff until they make something new.

a-dev
04-05-2017, 09:34 PM
Yeah, I'm not supporting that crap. I bought extras of the Ultimate T-800 for that exact purpose when Randy was saying they weren't interested in doing a Galleria. **** that rose box figure.

I only bought one Ultimate T-800 so I still have that reason to buy this figure....and then of course they'll make the even Ultimator version which also includes the new mid-torso joint of the 1:4 scale figure...but with the same heads and the same limited hands.

DiFabio
04-05-2017, 09:41 PM
Then the next one after that, a decade from now, will have the much needed double hinged knees and actual swappable fists!

Then the 2029 anniversary T-800 will finally give us the ultimate T-800 with double hinged elbows!

a-dev
04-05-2017, 09:54 PM
And for some reason he'll have shrunk to 3.75 inches tall..and no youtube reviewers will mention it at all!!

DiFabio
04-05-2017, 10:07 PM
And for some reason he'll have shrunk to 3.75 inches tall..and no youtube reviewers will mention it at all!!



The circle is now complete . . .



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Davea1982
04-06-2017, 06:02 PM
The circle is now complete . . .



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What figures are these? They look wrong proportion wise...

Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

DiFabio
04-06-2017, 07:02 PM
Old stuff from like 2003. The line got cancelled. It was going to be a line of super articulated 3 3/4" figures and vehicles.

a-dev
04-06-2017, 07:20 PM
That's a pity. SA figures and even vehicles, I would have bought them. Then again maybe I wouldn't because I wasn't aware they existed as an idea let alone as prototypes till last year.

DiFabio
04-06-2017, 10:22 PM
If they went up for sale, I would have no doubt bought all of them back in the day. Might have even army built the soldiers and endos or some crazy ****.

henzINNIT
04-07-2017, 06:46 AM
Are they the Palisades figures? I was gutted when the company went under. They were great.

DiFabio
04-07-2017, 08:50 AM
Yup, that was it, Palisades.

DiFabio
04-26-2017, 02:30 PM
Heads up to anyone interested, the Galleria T-800 has hit Toys R Us. My store just got 8 in today. The little plastic hook tabs were still on the pegs. The adhesive must not have been strong enough and 6 of the figure boxes were off the pegs on the floor and lower shelves.

I looked through them and the paint apps on most of them are pretty bad. Over half have these ridiculous looking painted eyebrows that make him look like he's shocked or surprised. Tons of blemishes on them. Also if you look, there's been molding damage to all the heads on the left sunglasses where it looks like the original mold cracked, it's pretty ugly looking and was on every single one. No doubt a case of an 8 year old sculpt being constantly put into distribution.

The paint on the regular, non-sunglasses heads looked pretty good though. No pink lips, no bright hair, no goof my eyes.

a-dev
04-26-2017, 02:34 PM
Sounds crap. Although I have plenty of spares of that head from previous releases.

For budgeting purposes I reduced my order to just one of the T2:3D figure to ship alongside that Phicen body that BBTS finally got in stock. I'll just order more at some later date if I still want them.

DiFabio
04-26-2017, 02:38 PM
It's going to be one of those releases like the Box Endoskeleton and Box Old chap that will be mass produced till the end of time I reckon. Probably plenty of opportunities to get them on clearance. So yeah, smart move. I bet around fall/winter you'll be able to get a ton for cheap for whatever bashes you have in mind.

The Clown Prince of Crime
04-26-2017, 03:31 PM
Too bad about the bad head, but I just want the body.

a-dev
04-26-2017, 03:38 PM
Too bad about the bad head, but I just want the body.

So did this guy

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/Funnies/vlcsnap-2015-06-11-19h42m56s165%20Small_zpsm0oyo9od.png (http://s594.photobucket.com/user/a-dev/media/Funnies/vlcsnap-2015-06-11-19h42m56s165%20Small_zpsm0oyo9od.png.html)

Well...actually I think he would have liked both.