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Viking28
10-10-2005, 02:23 PM
Rearranged my setup a couple weeks back (with the addition of a GG Dewback diorama) and something happened. At that time my Vader GG statue was below eye level and I always thought he was a cool looking statue.
But then I move him above eye level and now I dont think he is that great looking at all, in fact I will most likely get rid of him soon. It's just funny how something like that can change your perspective on a piece.
I think Im done with collecting their FS SW statues and just stick with Sideshow (Plus Sideshow's Vader is going to rule!) and maybe pick up a Attkus at some point. Plus I hate collecting lines were you have to wait for so long for the next release to be released.

I'll still pick up a bust or two but the FS statues I'll just skip.

Gruson
10-10-2005, 04:55 PM
Another person has seen the light.

;)

The Josh
10-10-2005, 05:05 PM
Rearranged my setup a couple weeks back (with the addition of a GG Dewback diorama) and something happened. At that time my Vader GG statue was below eye level and I always thought he was a cool looking statue.
But then I move him above eye level and now I dont think he is that great looking at all, in fact I will most likely get rid of him soon. It's just funny how something like that can change your perspective on a piece.
I think Im done with collecting their FS SW statues and just stick with Sideshow (Plus Sideshow's Vader is going to rule!) and maybe pick up a Attkus at some point. Plus I hate collecting lines were you have to wait for so long for the next release to be released.

I'll still pick up a bust or two but the FS statues I'll just skip.

That's cool. I disagree about the Vader statue but hey to each their own. I'll grab SS Vader at somepoint when I have more room and money. I am seriously thinking about getting the Attakus Greivous though.

The thing about GG that I totally agree with people on is how freaking long they take to get the next new item out to pre-order then release.

Another person has seen the light.

;)

IYO of course. :D

Viking28
10-11-2005, 07:18 AM
Another person has seen the light.

;)

I've been saved!!!

The Josh
10-11-2005, 09:21 AM
So if you collect GG are you looked at as someone who collects cheap crappy products? If so who decided that was the case?

Viking28
10-11-2005, 09:44 AM
Did I miss something?? Cheap crappy products??? Was that said somewere?

The Josh
10-11-2005, 09:48 AM
Did I miss something?? Cheap crappy products??? Was that said somewere?

It wasn't said directly. I'm just tossing this out there to those that seem to look down upon GG or even some SSW items because they now only collect Attakus, 1/4th, or MR.

Viking28
10-11-2005, 09:54 AM
Ahh ok well for me Ive had two Chewi's both have been bad and the Vader I have the bottom part of the base(were the info is displayed) is seperating from the base. Yea its a easy glue fix but still.......

But I dont know to me there is other products I would rather focus my funds twords. And I cant stand collecting a line were their is so much space between releases or even hearing about upcoming releases.
And again just decided dont like their FS releases.

They arent like Sideshow were there might be a space in one line but your bound to see something cool in another line.

The Josh
10-11-2005, 10:03 AM
Ahh ok well for me Ive had two Chewi's both have been bad and the Vader I have the bottom part of the base(were the info is displayed) is seperating from the base. Yea its a easy glue fix but still.......

Yeah, I've heard the Chewi didn't come out so well. That sucks about your Vader though what a bunch of crap that the base is coming apart. Luckily my base is doing well. (knock on wood)

But I dont know to me there is other products I would rather focus my funds towards. And I cant stand collecting a line were their is so much space between releases or even hearing about upcoming releases.
And again just decided dont like their FS releases.

I totally understand that. It just cracks me up when some collectors move on that what they collect now is just way better than what they collected before. Not so much that they feel this way mind you cause they have a right to feel this way but how the post comes reads. Because some people don't feel that way that collect those lines.

They arent like Sideshow were there might be a space in one line but your bound to see something cool in another line.

I totally agree. That's why SS is a much better company with better products as a whole.

oxbeard
10-11-2005, 10:18 AM
I've got the Chewie and the C3PO statues. Pleased with both, will likely keep the Chewie unless SS is able to do an outstanding 1/4. Still undecided about 3PO. Not planning on any others though, just getting spread too thin.

I been seeing quite a few criticize GG because the announcements in their FS line are so far apart. Of course, they get criticized too because the announcements for product in their bust line are too plentiful with an over abundance of variants. I actually wouldn't mind a slow down in some of the lines I'm collecting just to give a little time to breath. Feeling a little overwhelmed with all of the announcements from other lines and companies.

Don't get me wrong seeing the new stuff is very exciting, but having to pay for it as it all comes in at the same time can get very dicey. :horror

Viking28
10-11-2005, 01:35 PM
Im one of those who does complain about their bust line BECAUSE you have maybe 5 or so busts a year and maybe half are exclusives to this or that.
Their Maul looks cool but I think Sideshow's version will be the one to get or just place that twords the SS bust. Just becoming more picky on what I spend funds on is all.

LOTRFan
10-11-2005, 01:55 PM
I recently sold my Vader, the SS version will be the best no doubt!

I am likely going to sell my GG busts as well, I think I have just lost interest in them. I would really have preferred them to have a raised column (a la SS), their low profile somewhat bothers me.

cherno
10-11-2005, 10:20 PM
After the long delays for SS LOTR pieces, then sudden floods, I am never going to complain about someone taking a while to get products out to market again.

I think they should try to shorten the window, but MOST importantly, if they give a release date, which they should at time of release, stick to it as much as possible. There are always unforseen delays, but I would rather wait a year knowing that something will definately be coming in a year, then be waiting two years, and constantly seeing TBD or slipping dates constantly.

I only have a few GG SW pieces, but have been very please so far. They will continue to get my business.

hairlesswookiee
10-11-2005, 10:32 PM
i agree with most of you guys. with the stiff competition out there and the high prices a lot of people cant afford to just throw the money around buying everything. i happen to like the GG statues a lot, but i also happen to like the sideshow ones much better. i have the darth vader GG and the Scout Biker and maul on order and after those im going to stop with the GG line until they come out with something that i absolutely must have. seems that everybody is doing a vader and grievous statue/bust/figure just because of the movie buzz and i have a feeling that when the SS grievous comes there will be many people putting them on ebay because he will lose his coolness by the time he finally arrives.

One of Nine
10-12-2005, 03:11 PM
I love GG stuff, I have over 20 pieces and not one of them arrived broken or with shoddy paint jobs like collectibles I have gotten from other companies. I also love the material that the bust are made of which I think is resin, which to me feels alot better than polystone. Their stuff is top notch in my opinion :joy

RodLonghi
10-12-2005, 03:15 PM
First of all , that kind of post is not constructive, every manufacturer have a fan base that loves their pieces, and when you say one is better than another it’s very likely that some dicussion will follow .

Anyway I’m sure me and a lot of other people have exactly the opposite opinion that you have. IMO until now every statue released by GG have a better pose and likeness than the Attakus versions, it’s simple to see that: Attakus ‘s C3PO looks terrible it isn’t even gold plated. Chewie: the GG fur looks much more natural and the likeness to the creature is better, Vader, Attakus Vader is very nice, but IMO the GG pose is much more dynamic.
I agree that GG should release more than 3 or so pieces a year, but apart from that flaw it’s one of the best movie collectible manufacturer on the market.

Viking28
10-12-2005, 03:49 PM
First of all , that kind of post is not constructive, every manufacturer have a fan base that loves their pieces, and when you say one is better than another it’s very likely that some dicussion will follow .

Is it my post you are talking about? Just reread what I posted just to be sure, I dont know were I am saying that one manufacturer is better than the other. I just dont have any luck with the FS statues.
But again I stated I will be picking up their busts and I will be getting Trinity on the bike! :google

Anyway I’m sure me and a lot of other people have exactly the opposite opinion that you have. IMO until now every statue released by GG have a better pose and likeness than the Attakus versions, it’s simple to see that: Attakus ‘s C3PO looks terrible it isn’t even gold plated. Chewie: the GG fur looks much more natural and the likeness to the creature is better, Vader, Attakus Vader is very nice, but IMO the GG pose is much more dynamic.
I agree that GG should release more than 3 or so pieces a year, but apart from that flaw it’s one of the best movie collectible manufacturer on the market.

Its a matter of taste with only seeing pics of the Attakus Vader I(my opion) is the one I would prefer if I had the funds to aquire. But I do think Sideshow's version will be the best, but that is just me. Im not trying to hurt anybodys feelings or anything and I am not running GG Vader into the ground just Sideshows version (to me) will be better.

And I totally disagree with you Sideshow is the best movie collectible manufacturer in the market.

Viking28
10-12-2005, 03:51 PM
And plus I stated its kind of strange when you move a piece to a different level of I guess sight. It changed how I saw it thought that was kind of strange.

larbob
10-12-2005, 03:54 PM
Never bought any of the GG stuff but I like the speeder
bike and dewback statues. And their busts always seem
really well done.

Just have run out of room and only collect Attakus and MR
star wars pieces.

achteel
10-12-2005, 03:59 PM
and I will be getting Trinity on the bike! :google
And I must say, Trinity on Motorcycle is spectacular!!! GG nailed this one.

LordSith
10-12-2005, 06:22 PM
IMO until now every statue released by GG have a better pose and likeness than the Attakus versions, it’s simple to see that:

Simple for you, and your mind. And your opinion, of course.

Attakus ‘s C3PO looks terrible it isn’t even gold plated.

Terrible? Did you ever see one? MUCH better than the tinny, OUT OF SCALE , long armed GG C3-PO. Attakus pose it's also way better.

Chewie: the GG fur looks much more natural and the likeness to the creature is better.

You gotta be kidding, right? LOL. GG Chewie it's TERRIBLE, looks like a TOY! And the likeness it's even worse than Koto's Chewie. Again, I doubt that you EVER saw the Attakus one in front of you, and I'm probaly right again, just by judging your comments. That's the typical comment of someone that never seen one, or can't afford one, or are just jealous.

Vader, Attakus Vader is very nice, but IMO the GG pose is much more dynamic.

Million times better than the deformed, out of proportion, big chest, big head GG Vader. And Attakus Vader looks like the ORIGINAL Vader, the one I like to remember, not a Frankeinstein Vader that have ESB pose and ROTS custome. No wonder one sells for $1300 and the other one it's less than $100 on ebay right now. And no, it's not edition size alone to guilt here. It's cause GG Vader it's a butt ugly Vader. Again I DOUBT that you have seen the Attakus Vader in front of you, and I'm probably right again.

I know, it's my opinion also, so don't get too freaky. But atleast I have seen all the pieces in question and can compare.

The Josh
10-12-2005, 07:20 PM
Simple for you, and your mind. And your opinion, of course.

You don't really want to start off coming across like an ******* do you? Your right it's his opinion and as I've been told let them have it. Hopefully that's something simple for you to understand!


Terrible? Did you ever see one? MUCH better than the tinny, OUT OF SCALE , long armed GG C3-PO. Attakus pose it's also way better.

I don't recall seeing the Attakus 3PO but did see the GG and I thought it was pretty good for the price. 3PO does nothing for me so really neither statue is that great IMO.

You gotta be kidding, right? LOL. GG Chewie it's TERRIBLE, looks like a TOY! And the likeness it's even worse than Koto's Chewie. Again, I doubt that you EVER saw the Attakus one in front of you, and I'm probaly right again, just by judging your comments. That's the typical comment of someone that never seen one, or can't afford one, or are just jealous.

Again, didn't see the Attakus version but did see the GG. I wasn't that impressed with it I agree with you on Chewie. However, just because he hasn't seen on in person doesn't mean him thinking the Attakus version is not so hot any less relevant.

Million times better than the deformed, out of proportion, big chest, big head GG Vader. And Attakus Vader looks like the ORIGINAL Vader, the one I like to remember, not a Frankeinstein Vader that have ESB pose and ROTS custome. No wonder one sells for $1300 and the other one it's less than $100 on ebay right now. And no, it's not edition size alone to guilt here. It's cause GG Vader it's a butt ugly Vader. Again I DOUBT that you have seen the Attakus Vader in front of you, and I'm probably right again.

Now, I have seen those in person. I thought they were very good but I do prefer the GG Vader more to those two. If I had to say though I thought the SS Vader kicks the Attakus Vaders ***! The reason the attakus version sells so well is cause it's hard as hell to get ahold of. IMO not because it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Now, I will say I have been impressed with the Attakus Grievous a lot. So much so I'll probably end up getting this and the SS exclusive version

I know, it's my opinion also, so don't get too freaky. But atleast I have seen all the pieces in question and can compare.

I've seen them all as well so don't get to freaky replying back. So when you reply don't pat your arrogant arse on the back to hard wouldn't want you to wear that arm out! I'M PROBABLY RIGHT ON THAT. ;)

Gruson
10-12-2005, 08:03 PM
I think everyone knows what I think about GG.
;)

FYI, I would never look down on anyone on what they prefer to collect.

I just personally like the higher end stuff.

Would a GG bust or statue go with my collection below? I don't think so. If they did release a really nice piece, I would buy it. I just look for the best and do no care which company makes it.
http://www.crazywayco.com/museum.jpg

LordSith
10-12-2005, 08:30 PM
You don't really want to start off coming across like an ******* do you? Your right it's his opinion and as I've been told let them have it. Hopefully that's something simple for you to understand!

Hopefully it's also simple for you to understand that post counts means nothing, and yes, it's also MY opinion, based on what I've seen IN PERSON




I don't recall seeing the Attakus 3PO but did see the GG and I thought it was pretty good for the price. 3PO does nothing for me so really neither statue is that great IMO.

Again, good for the price is different than better. You never seen the Attakus in person, so I'm afraid you are in a very bad position to judge. Sorry. If you are a true collector, you know that pictures most of the times are a terrible way to judge a statue, FYI.



However, just because he hasn't seen on in person doesn't mean him thinking the Attakus version is not so hot any less relevant.

Pictures and see in person are completly different things. If he never saw it in person, then his opinion it's doubtfull, and doesn't bring too much to the table. MANY times we think that something sux by the pictures, just to find out that looks incredible in person. I've seen both in person. There's no comparisson. Attakus Chewie looks much better than GG one.



Now, I have seen those in person. I thought they were very good but I do prefer the GG Vader more to those two. If I had to say though I thought the SS Vader kicks the Attakus Vaders ***! The reason the attakus version sells so well is cause it's hard as hell to get ahold of. IMO not because it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

With that weird looking cape, I don't think so. Yes, it looks good, but the pose is so so, atleast it's paired with Obi-Wan. And I prefer a sculpted statue over one with cloths. Yes, the Vader 1 sells high cause it's BEAUTIFUL and the best Vader representation yet.
(And why bring SS Vader to the topic? Don't change the subject. His comment were towards the Attakus Vader, not the SS one)
Since you want to change the subject, I would NEVER pay $100 for the tiny Balrogs that scalpers sells for $2000 on ebay. If you don't apreciate the Attakus Vader, you can be sure a lot of people does.


Now, I will say I have been impressed with the Attakus Grievous a lot. So much so I'll probably end up getting this and the SS exclusive version

Now you are talking. Both the SS and Attakus looks good. I prefer SS pose a little more, but the Attakus cape looks much better and detailed, and comes with sabers. ;)



I've seen them all as well so don't get to freaky replying back. So when you reply don't pat your arrogant arse on the back to hard wouldn't want you to wear that arm out! I'M PROBABLY RIGHT ON THAT. ;)

Arrogant? Nope, you sound more arrogant than me. Do you have a job and earn your own money, or you still live with your parents and have no idea of what it is to go out and make a living to buy what you really want and think it's the best?

LordSith
10-12-2005, 08:32 PM
I think everyone knows what I think about GG.
;)

FYI, I would never look down on anyone on what they prefer to collect.

I just personally like the higher end stuff.

Would a GG bust or statue go with my collection below? I don't think so. If they did release a really nice piece, I would buy it. I just look for the best and do no care which company makes it.
http://www.crazywayco.com/museum.jpg

That's an impressive collection, Gruson. Very nice. I agree with you, no space for GG in there.

The Josh
10-12-2005, 08:51 PM
Hopefully it's also simple for you to understand that post counts means nothing, and yes, it's also MY opinion, based on what I've seen IN PERSON

Did I say anything about post counts? No, I didn't. I just said that coming in acting like an assehole is no way to get people to wanna chat with ya.

Again, good for the price is different than better. You never seen the Attakus in person, so I'm afraid you are in a very bad position to judge. Sorry. If you are a true collector, you know that pictures most of the times are a terrible way to judge a statue, FYI.

I'm in no way in a bad position to judge. I'm not only basing my opinion on what I've seen in pics but compairing it to other Attakus pieces. Plus I just don't give too much of a rats *** to 3P0 so I don't care what the statue looks like. I ain't buying. So you can only be a true collector if you know that huh? Really that is a pretty stupid statement. We all know that these statues be it SS, GG, Attakus, etc. look better in person, but we can't all simply walk out and buy these or see them down the street. So for MOST people you have to at least judge a little bit by what you see in pics.

Pictures and see in person are completly different things. If he never saw it in person, then his opinion it's doubtfull, and doesn't bring too much to the table. MANY times we think that something sux by the pictures, just to find out that looks incredible in person. I've seen both in person. There's no comparisson. Attakus Chewie looks much better than GG one.

It's his opinion based on the info he has which IMO is worth what everyones is. No more no less. I agree I have a couple SSW pieces I wasn't so sure about but was more than pleased when I got them. However, I was in a position to buy them and be able to change we all can't do that. :rolleyes: As far as the Chewie statues go I don't doubt the Attakus is better since I wasnt that impressed with the GG.

With that weird looking cape, I don't think so. Yes, it looks good, but the pose is so so, atleast it's paired with Obi-Wan. And I prefer a sculpted statue over one with cloths. Yes, the Vader 1 sells high cause it's BEAUTIFUL and the best Vader representation yet.

Well, I know I'd pay the money for the SS version before the Attakus and I much prefer statues to the items with real cloth. It's a better looking piece, made better, and has kick *** details. Not that the Attakus is dog crap just not as good as the SS. I disagree with you on the Vader 1 but I think that's pretty obvious.

(And why bring SS Vader to the topic? Don't change the subject. His comment were towards the Attakus Vader, not the SS one)
Since you want to change the subject, I would NEVER pay $100 for the tiny Balrogs that scalpers sells for $2000 on ebay. If you don't apreciate the Attakus Vader, you can be sure a lot of people does.

Cause, I wanted to bring up the BEST Vader representation since we where talking about that. I'll use your logic then. Have you seen it in person or just pics? Cause if you haven't seen it in person then the opinion you bring to the table means crap. :) I'm sure the Attakus Vader gets a lot of love and by all means it should to the people that have it, but don't get on the people that don't because you like it. As I've been told 1k times. :D


Now you are talking. Both the SS and Attakus looks good. I prefer SS pose a little more, but the Attakus cape looks much better and detailed, and comes with sabers. ;)

That's the thing I like about the Attakus Vader more it has all the nice little details you saw in the film.

Arrogant? Nope, you sound more arrogant than me. Do you have a job and earn your own money, or you still live with your parents and have no idea of what it is to go out and make a living to buy what you really want and think it's the best?

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with a newbie. Yes, I do have a job. :D I work for a local school district. So yes I go out and buy what I think is the best which is why I've added the tiny Balrog as you put it and the Witch King statue in the last month.

RodLonghi
10-12-2005, 09:06 PM
Very bad way to introduce yourself to the forum LordSith. :nono Like I said before that kind of thread is not necessary it only brings mindless and arrogant posts like this one.

I think GG is better and the price is cheaper , so it's a no-brainer decision. If I haven't seen an Attakus piece? Yes I have. I used to own an Attakus C3PO statue so I can say it for sure. GG C3Po is better and it's not tiny it's in scale with the other pieces, but I won't discuss about the statues anymore because I have already posted my opinion about them. I think some Attakus pieces indeed looks good and others looks like crap, like every manufacturer.

If I can't afford an Attakus piece ? Yes I can. Just look at my collection and you you will see I spend a lot of money on those collectibles, I even have an Attakus statue (Shrek), but the Attakus SW line just doesn't do anything to me.

You know what I think is really funny... Those people that criticize GG only does it with their SW FS line, they usually like (or at least doesn’t say it) the busts , the matrix stuff and the SW diorama series, but the problem is with the FS line, there's too much competition out there: GG, SS, Attakus, Koto,etc (they have different scale and materials but they are all SW statues) and people that already have a collection of one of those manufacturers likes to "protect" their company of choice.



Again, didn't see the Attakus version but did see the GG. I wasn't that
Now, I have seen those in person. I thought they were very good but I do prefer the GG Vader more to those two. If I had to say though I thought the SS Vader kicks the Attakus Vaders ***! The reason the attakus version sells so well is cause it's hard as hell to get ahold of. IMO not because it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I totally agree with you.

LordSith
10-12-2005, 09:33 PM
Did I say anything about post counts? No, I didn't. I just said that coming in acting like an assehole is no way to get people to wanna chat with ya.


Coming and acting like an assehole? Are you are talking about you here?
I didn't offend anyone, I'm just talking about statues. You said I looked like an assehole first. Maybe the assehole it's you, not me? :rolleyes:


I'm in no way in a bad position to judge.

Maybe bad isn't the really right word. Lets just say your position is not as good as someone that saw them in person, that's for sure, you want it or not.


We all know that these statues be it SS, GG, Attakus, etc. look better in person.

Sometimes they looks worse. Who's the newbie? :rolleyes:

Pictures are bad to really judge something. Principally when you call something crap or say it looks really bad without even seen it. To call something CRAP, terrible or bad, yes, you have to see it in person, otherwise your opinion will be not as precise than someone that saw the piece in question.



It's his opinion based on the info he has which IMO is worth what everyones is.

I've lurked here before, never saw this guy saying anything bad about GG. He's biased, and even worse, he never saw the other pieces he bad judges. So yes, his opinion it's very doubtfull. I've seen and collected the pieces in question, so my judgment it's a little more truthful and not as biased. GG makes good things. SW statues are not one of them.



Well, I know I'd pay the money for the SS version before the Attakus and I much prefer statues to the items with real cloth. It's a better looking piece, made better, and has kick *** details. Not that the Attakus is dog crap just not as good as the SS. I disagree with you on the Vader 1 but I think that's pretty obvious.


That's an opinion there, even tough I really don't think you've seen Attakus first Vader in person and don't agree with you. I also would never pay $100 for the Balrog, unless I was going to sell it on ebay for people like you to buy :D



Cause, I wanted to bring up the BEST Vader representation since we where talking about that. I'll use your logic then. Have you seen it in person or just pics?


Yes, I saw it IN PERSON at the last comic con. :rolleyes: Sorry. And yes, the cape looks bad, the saber it's too short and the hands position doesn' look right either. And I don't like the chest armor covered by his robe. But I will end up getting to go with Obi-Wan. It's cheap, so why not get it? And will looks awesome together with Obi. But the pose is not as good as the Attakus, not as powerfull.



Cause if you haven't seen it in person then the opinion you bring to the table means crap. :)

I saw it. Sorry kid. :rolleyes:




That's the thing I like about the Attakus Vader more it has all the nice little details you saw in the film.

Yes.



I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with a newbie. Yes, I do have a job. :D I work for a local school district. So yes I go out and buy what I think is the best which is why I've added the tiny Balrog as you put it and the Witch King statue in the last month.

Please don't go into the pissing contest. That's why you probably have over than 10k posts.

Newbie? Just cause I recently loged in? Wow, how inteligent you are. :)
Just cause you stay here all day long, posting here, you call other people newbies? I really doubt you have a job based on your post counts.
And let me tell you what a newbie is:
Are you a true LOTR fan? Cause if you are, where were you when those tiny pieces were released?(and for cheap) Most of the true collectors and fans I know were in line to buy those pieces for $300 when they got released.
Paying 2k for a piece, in the hands of ebay scalpers doesn't make you any better collector than anyone. Makes you a NEWBIE. :rolleyes: :joy
Bye-bye.

PS: You said you wouldn't get into a pissing contest with a newbie, so make your words prevail and don't answer back. I know I won't answer you anymore, and I do keep my word. Let's see if you can keep yours.

The Josh
10-12-2005, 09:51 PM
Maybe bad isn't the really right word. Lets just say your position is not as good as someone that saw them in person, that's for sure, you want it or not.

I agree seeing it in person gives you a more of an advantage to see the detail than say I have on pieces like Chewie or 3PO.

Sometimes they looks worse. Who's the newbie? :rolleyes:

That's been a rare occasion for me personally. I've seen people post this happening. I didn't say it wouldn't or couldn't happen I just agreed with you that it's a rare occasion.

Pictures are bad to really judge something. Principally when you call something crap or say it looks really bad without even seen it. To call something CRAP, terrible or bad, yes, you have to see it in person, otherwise your opinion will be not as precise than someone that saw the piece in question.

I don't think I said any of these pieces looked like crap. I did say I didn't think certain pieces looked so good. I rarely call something crap.

I've lurked here before, never saw this guy saying anything bad about GG. He's biased, and even worse, he never saw the other pieces he bad judges. So yes, his opinion it's very doubtfull. I've seen and collected the pieces in question, so my judgment it's a little more truthful and not as biased. GG makes good things. SW statues are not one of them.

He likes GG. Does he have to say something bad to give him more street cred with you? That's something in general that makes no sense to me. People having to say something negative about a company in order for them to be taken seriously. He's said he has owned most of these pieces or seen them in person so his opinion is valid.

That's an opinion there, even tough I really don't think you've seen Attakus first Vader in person and don't agree with you. I also would never pay $100 for the Balrog, unless I was going to sell it on ebay for people like you to buy :D

Well, I did when I went to SDCC 05. If you'd like I'll post a pic of me at the show. Or you can ask some of the members here if I was at the show. Well, that's cool. I wouldn't pay $100 bucks for the Attakus Vader.

Yes, I saw it IN PERSON at the last comic con. :rolleyes: Sorry. And yes, the cape looks bad, the saber it's too short and the hands position doesn' look right either. And I don't like the chest armor covered by his robe. But I will end up getting to go with Obi-Wan. It's cheap, so why not get it? And will looks awesome together with Obi. But the pose is not as good as the Attakus, not as powerfull.

I was cool with the SS Vader it was more than impressive.

I saw it. Sorry kid. :rolleyes:

Well, then what can I say we agree to disagree.


Yes.

Sorry, I meant Grievous. Have Vader on the brain. :wacky

Please don't go into the pissing contest. That's why you probably have over than 10k posts.

Hardly. It's more from cheerleading. Just ask around. :wacky

I really doubt you have a job based on your post counts.


Ok if you want to belive that then go right ahead.

And let me tell you what a newbie is:Are you a true LOTR fan? Cause if you are, where were you when those tiny pieces were released?(and for cheap) Most of the true collectors and fans I know were in line to buy those pieces for $300 when they got released.

So I'm not a true fan of LOTR because I didn't know about the pieces back in 2001? I know a lot of fans of LOTR that have been fans for years that didn't know till recently. Believe me I'm as hardcore a fan of LOTR as you will see. You can ask around on that.

Paying 2k for a piece, in the hands of ebay scalpers doesn't make you any better collector than anyone. Makes you a NEWBIE. :rolleyes: :joy
Bye-bye.

I paid 2k to another collector that was selling it cause he is about to have a child. I paid 2k because I WANTED to cause that was the best price I was going to get this piece I really wanted. I in no way think me getting this or the WK makes me a better collector. Just fortunate that I'm in a position to do so.

PS: You said you wouldn't get into a pissing contest with a newbie, so make your words prevail and don't answer back. I know I won't answer you anymore, and I do keep my word. Let's see if you can keep yours.

I'm not as you can see nothing in this reply is part of a pissing contest I replied very calm. I said nothing about not replying calmly to you.

transhi100
10-12-2005, 10:05 PM
Josh, give it up. The new guy is obviously a classic TROLL and a diehard Attakus fanboy. It's pointless arguing.

Back on topic, I've seen statues from both these lines in person, and as a casual SW fan, I just don't see why Attakus is so much more expensive than GG. To me, they seem to make comparable products. They just don't seem that much more "high end" to me, Both lines have their good and bad pieces. Is it because Attakus are so much more limited, imported from a foreign country, or maybe their MSRP is higher (not sure, I haven't looked into it any further)?

transhi

RodLonghi
10-12-2005, 10:35 PM
You're right transhi, There are 3 reasons why the Attakus pieces are more expensive, but none of those reasons means that the product is better, because one of the most important things about a statue is the artist that sculpts the pieces and the techniques used in the process. I mean , both companies are good at what they do, but when someone says that Attakus is better because it's more expensive they are completely wrong, like the regular arrogant: " if you don't like Attakus it's because you can't afford it" that's just dumb:

1)GG is made in China, Attakus in France. Everybody knows that China has the lower production costs of the world, France is one of the highests. Attakus paint jobs are great and the same can be said about the chinese workers.

2)The material used is different, Attakus pieces are made of porcelain which is an expensive material and GG are made of polystone.

3) The scale is different, Attakus is bigger so it uses more material and the shipping costs are higher.

LordSith
10-12-2005, 11:24 PM
You're right transhi, There are 3 reasons why the Attakus pieces are more expensive, but none of those reasons means that the product is better, because one of the most important things about a statue is the artist that sculpts the pieces and the techniques used in the process. I mean , both companies are good at what they do, but when someone says that Attakus is better because it's more expensive they are completely wrong, like the regular arrogant: " if you don't like Attakus it's because you can't afford it" that's just dumb:

1)GG is made in China, Attakus in France. Everybody knows that China has the lower production costs of the world, France is one of the highests. Attakus paint jobs are great and the same can be said about the chinese workers.

2)The material used is different, Attakus pieces are made of porcelain which is an expensive material and GG are made of polystone.

3) The scale is different, Attakus is bigger so it uses more material and the shipping costs are higher.

Wrong. Attakus pieces are also made in China. That's just shows what you know. :rolleyes:
Attakus are also more expensive cause their pieces have a MUCH lower edition number.

Darklord Dave
10-12-2005, 11:33 PM
I've never seen an Attakus peice in person. They aren't at any of the US shows and I don't know of any shop that carries them, not even in Los Angeles. Thus I guess I can't ever make an informed comment about them.

Shai
10-13-2005, 12:51 AM
Well, here I am in Quebec,Canada and lots of our dealers are doing buisness with attakus and french dealers...Therefore Ive seen most of their pieces in person...just at my local speciality toyshop , last week, there was jabba the hut, darth vader #2, palpatine, padmé,salacious crumb, slave leia and chewbacca...the absolute best piece from attakus that I have ever seen is their red guard and the first vader.. ..they are amazing !!!! But if you asked me, I think sideshow premium format figures are better figures because of the mixed media.... and GG, I've never bought anything from them...Besides all of this, its just a matter of tastes and needs.....

Gruson
10-13-2005, 05:09 AM
<worst to best IMO>
1.Hasbro
2. Gentle Giant
3. Koto - even though they are vinyl, most look pretty good
4. Attakus-new Attakus releases are looking incredible
5. Sideshow -1/4 scale is great but I can understand why some do not like the real cloth. I personally love it, very realistic appearance. They need to start releasing more though
5. Cinemaquette -hopeully they will get Star Wars license as I would not mind paying $2000 for a 1/3 scale Vader or $1500 for other releases.

I guess GG's Vader would still be better than the Cinemaquette version too? Right... :google

There are different price points for everyone to collect but people should admit that some lines (for the most part) are better than others.

Example:

GG Terminator bust versus Cinemaquette Terminator T-850.

I hope you get my point.

One of Nine
10-13-2005, 08:11 AM
The most expensive collectible is not always the best one, I will take my $150 GG vader over any of the overpriced offerings by other companies anyday. I am surprised at the direction SS is going with some of these high dollar collectibles by adding electronic features, to me a nice collectible should look like a piece of art not a toy that takes batteries or plugs in like a lamp, seems real tacky to me. Attakus stuff is nice, but is the quality of their pieces compared to other companies worth double to quadruple the price, not IMO.

RodLonghi
10-13-2005, 09:00 AM
<worst to best IMO>
1.Hasbro
2. Gentle Giant
3. Koto - even though they are vinyl, most look pretty good
4. Attakus-new Attakus releases are looking incredible
5. Sideshow -1/4 scale is great but I can understand why some do not like the real cloth. I personally love it, very realistic appearance. They need to start releasing more though
5. Cinemaquette -hopeully they will get Star Wars license as I would not mind paying $2000 for a 1/3 scale Vader or $1500 for other releases.



hahaha:wacky .. .you must be kidding me. I'll use an expression that you like "What are you smoking?" :peace Cinemaquette doesn't even produce SW pieces so why it's on the list? what Hasbro (toys) has to do with the rest (collectibles) ??? That was just too funny .. And koto before GG ??? They are nice but the material used , makes some of them looks like toys, and the snap-fit parts sometimes make them look like an action figure, and yes, I have seen a lot of them, I sold my Vader 1, Obi-Wan and Jango statues . Ok, here is my list from best to worse:

1)GG
2) Sideshow
3)Attakus
4)Koto

The Josh
10-13-2005, 09:21 AM
I guess GG's Vader would still be better than the Cinemaquette version too? Right... :google

It could be to some. Does that mean they are wrong absoluetly not. Why because that's their opinion. Again, just because someone buys stuff that's more exspensive doesn't mean they have a better item.


There are different price points for everyone to collect but people should admit that some lines (for the most part) are better than others.

Yes, there are different price points people collect. Some of it's because they can't afford it some if it's cause they choose not to buy items they feel are overpriced. I agree that EVERY line has faults no matter the price point but that's something you can't get the folks who collect the stuff with the higher price tag items to admit it seems.

As I said earlier in this thread. It seems to me more and more that the people that CHOOSE to buy the items with a more exspensive price tag look down on those that CHOOSE not to. Also that your collection is only OK if you don't have those items but AWESOME if you do.

Example:

GG Terminator bust versus Cinemaquette Terminator T-850.

I hope you get my point.

The GG bust is ok for what it is and to compare it to that piece is unfair IMO. The CM T-850 is a ok item not worth the $1200 IMO but it's ok just as is the Aragorn they are doing especially if they don't change a few things on it. The two best CM items I saw where the TX and the T-800 now those where pretty sweet.

Edit: Gruson I'm just using your quotes to make a point nothing against you at all.

Gruson
10-13-2005, 09:22 AM
Again, to each their own. People collect different items and I can understand that.

That said, I have posted pics of my collection and everyone thinks it looks great and very classy.

Where is your pic Rod? Let's see how nice those GG pieces look for a comparison.

As for Koto, I know they are vinyl and not the best quality. However, I think they look more screen accurate compared to a lot of GG pieces (not all of them of course). GG is better quality than Koto for sure in terms of what they are made of.

I do not collect Koto but for the price, they are ok.

I will say some Attakus pieces look horrible but for the most part, the line as a whole is very nice.

I think Sideshow has done the best work with humans for sure.

The Josh
10-13-2005, 09:26 AM
Again, to each their own.

Yup, tis true. Besides haven't you all seen through some of the discussions I've been in that it's just better to agree to disagree. Let the people that don't feel the same have their 15 seconds and move on.

I have posted pics of my collection and everyone thinks it looks great and very classy.

Your collection does look very good. You have some very nice items and a nice setup. IMO it's cause the items and the setup are nice not because you've spent big bucks.

jdonoho
10-13-2005, 09:38 AM
That said, I have posted pics of my collection and everyone thinks it looks great and very classy.


So, can we call you 'Classy Gru' or 'G Class' now? :banana

Yeah...your room looks like a white room or something. Gloves? Check. HazMat suit? Check. Do you let people in that room, Gru? Is there like a door to the room or is there a big glass pain acting as a wall to make it more showroom like? That would be kinda cool. Anyway...looks very good...I'm just used to more clutter! You've got too much space in that room, Gru!!!

Much better than my current setup. I have no room for anything is the prob. Stuff everywhere...dvd holder with a bunch of busts alongside another shelf with a bunch of stuff. Both those sitting on top of a desk shelf...seems sturdy enough lol) I've got the white trash display theme I think. lol

jdonoho
10-13-2005, 09:41 AM
Forgot to mention that I use my bar cabinets...that have glass windows on the doors...as my GG bust collection holder. lol I guess about 3 levels per cabinet...4 busts per level...although I'm filled up so it's merging to become 6 busts per level. Nice huh? lol

RodLonghi
10-13-2005, 09:46 AM
Again, to each their own. People collect different items and I can understand that.

That said, I have posted pics of my collection and everyone thinks it looks great and very classy.

Where is your pic Rod? Let's see how nice those GG pieces look for a comparison.

Fine, I'll post pics of my collection later, 'cause I'm at work right now.

Your collection is indeed very nice and well displayed, the only piece that I don't like is Logan (I think it's inspired by the Jim Lee's interpretation of the character, but SS could have done it better, IMO the head is too big) . I also prefer the classic statue over the mixed media stuff, but it's just a matter of taste... also, where is your lotr stuff?

Gruson
10-13-2005, 09:53 AM
I agree about Logan. He could have been better for sure. I will dump him when I need the space. :) I got him dirt cheap and would never pay retail for that piece. He is more a less a "filler" for now.

Once Sideshow and CM start shipping more pieces, the room will fill up more for sure but will still be spaced out. I hate clutter and want to keep it nice looking.

The only LOTR piece I kept was Sauron. He is on another wall in that room.

Jdonoho, what's up buddy? Been a while!
Yes, people are allowed to enter the room. haha. The room is beside my home theater and there is a door to it, sorry, no glass but yea, that would be great.

Oh, I like G-Class. j/k

TheWitchKing
10-13-2005, 10:00 AM
:rockAttakus Rules!!!!!!!!::rock

:stormtroo :vader :stormtroo :lightsabe

The Josh
10-13-2005, 11:39 AM
:rockAttakus Rules!!!!!!!!::rock

:stormtroo :vader :stormtroo :lightsabe


You suck :p :p :p

No more double decker tacos for you danny. :wacky

LOTRFan
10-13-2005, 12:23 PM
The most expensive collectible is not always the best one, I will take my $150 GG vader over any of the overpriced offerings by other companies anyday. I am surprised at the direction SS is going with some of these high dollar collectibles by adding electronic features, to me a nice collectible should look like a piece of art not a toy that takes batteries or plugs in like a lamp, seems real tacky to me. Attakus stuff is nice, but is the quality of their pieces compared to other companies worth double to quadruple the price, not IMO.

No offence man, but GG is doing the same thing with their Vader - a new version (variant :rolleyes: ), chrome with light-up saber. :peace

jdonoho
10-13-2005, 12:34 PM
No offence man, but GG is doing the same thing with their Vader - a new version (variant :rolleyes: ), chrome with light-up saber. :peace

A lot of companies do variants. Sideshow is no different. Even Attakus did the Japan Exclusives of LE 200. Helps lower costs for us...theoretically anyway. GG's variants could be better though than just chrome though.

Hey Gru, yeah...I try to post every once in a while. Joined statueforum finally this week too. lol

Viking28
10-13-2005, 12:37 PM
Got the SW section a moving :banana

larbob
10-13-2005, 12:52 PM
Gru,

Of your display which statue(s) is the CM brand, I'm not familiar with that?

Did you ever consider the SS Bronze Gandalf..for high end stuff?

LOTRFan
10-13-2005, 12:53 PM
No my point jdonoho was that there is no sense knocking SS for "light-up features," and praising GG for not doing that, as they are incorporating this for their variant Vader. The comment about the variant was just a personal gripe. :D

RodLonghi
10-13-2005, 01:05 PM
Just took a few pics of my collection, I hope it's not too large.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/rodrigolonghi/DSC03357.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/rodrigolonghi/DSC03318.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/rodrigolonghi/DSC03316.jpg

...and here's where I spend most part of my time when I'm in my bedroom and of coure when my girlfriend isn't with me. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/rodrigolonghi/DSC03348.jpg

Fritz
10-13-2005, 01:10 PM
Can I play?

In the Attakus line, I've seen "in person" the Jawa, Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Clone Trooper, Padme Amidala and Chewbacca. Personally, I didn't think any of them were any better or worse than the three current Gentle Giant pieces in terms of paint work/application. I don't mention the pose because that's all personal opinion and which one is better is up to the individual. I will say that to me, the Sideshow Weta LOTR pieces have more color depth.

One of Nine
10-13-2005, 01:11 PM
No offence man, but GG is doing the same thing with their Vader - a new version (variant :rolleyes: ), chrome with light-up saber. :peace


Hopefully once they see that no one wants to buy it they will drop the whole Chrome and light up gimmicks.

LOTRFan
10-13-2005, 01:15 PM
Hopefully once they see that no one wants to buy it they will drop the whole Chrome and light up gimmicks.

Personally it doesn't do anything for me. :rolleyes:

Fritz
10-13-2005, 01:34 PM
For the record, I can't stand the light up and sound features either. If I want that, I can pick up stuff from NECA and McFarlane for $40 or so.

Gruson
10-13-2005, 01:50 PM
I think it's time to move into a bigger place Rod or get rid of some items. ;)

It all makes sense now why you don't like Attakus or Sideshow 1/4 pieces. Where would you put them?!!?

j/k of course.

LordSith
10-13-2005, 02:03 PM
I have seen a lot of them, I sold my Vader 1, Obi-Wan and Jango statues


Can you post a picture of your Attakus Vader one??
I know someone in Brazil that knows you, and she tells me you never had a Vader 1, so here is Rod, once again, caught in a lie! :rolleyes: :joy

PS: Upgrade that crappy TV, dude. :rolleyes:

LordSith
10-13-2005, 02:07 PM
I think it's time to move into a bigger place Rod or get rid of some items. ;)

It all makes sense now why you don't like Attakus or Sideshow 1/4 pieces. Where would you put them?!!?

j/k of course.

No kidding, maybe that's why he collects only GG crap. A room like that doesn't deserve anything better. Please never put any Attakus, 1/4 SS or Cinemaquette in that room, or the Drug Lords that lives up the hills in Brazil will steal them from you! :banana :banana :banana

One of Nine
10-13-2005, 02:47 PM
No kidding, maybe that's why he collects only GG crap. A room like that doesn't deserve anything better. Please never put any Attakus, 1/4 SS or Cinemaquette in that room, or the Drug Lords that lives up the hills in Brazil will steal them from you! :banana :banana :banana

Rod you have a nice collection and setup :rock2 LordSith what's your malfunction dude? Where are the pics of your collection if you have that to say about someone else's?

Also get your facts straight, the majority of illegal drugs come from Mexico and Columbia, not Brazil. Only good looking chicks come from Brazil, but you wouldn't know that would you?

Go stink up another forum you turd. :censored

transhi100
10-13-2005, 02:54 PM
2)The material used is different, Attakus pieces are made of porcelain which is an expensive material and GG are made of polystone.

3) The scale is different, Attakus is bigger so it uses more material and the shipping costs are higher.

Hmm, I didn't know porcelain was more expensive than polystone. Why is that? From my experience, I would have guess that the opposite was true. Polystone, to me, feels like it's better quality.

I know that Attakus pieces are bigger, but since they use porcelain (I collect DC maquettes) which I think is much lighter than polystone (LOTR pieces are usually pretty heavy), I would think the size difference would be evened out by the weight of the material resulting in the shipping costs to be similar.

transhi

LordSith
10-13-2005, 02:56 PM
Also get your facts straight, the majority of illegal drugs come from Mexico and Columbia, not Brazil. Only good looking chicks come from Brazil, but you wouldn't know that would you?

Go stink up another forum you turd. :censored

No, YOU get your facts straight. The Drug Lords, or "traficantes", lives up the Hills in Brazil, in the so called "favelas", and they dominate the whole crime scenario in there. There's many partitions of organized crime on Brazil, and those Drug Lords dictates all the rules in some places. They sell drugs, like people sell water here. I lived in Brazil for one year, so I know what I'm talking about. Brazil have one of the biggest crime rates in the World, and part of this it's caused by the War's between the organized crime there. It's pretty obvious you don't know squat about what you're talking


So YOU, smart@ss, should inform yourself a little better before talking crap and calling people names.

RodLonghi
10-13-2005, 03:21 PM
Can you post a picture of your Attakus Vader one??
I know someone in Brazil that knows you, and she tells me you never had a Vader 1, so here is Rod, once again, caught in a lie! :rolleyes: :joy

PS: Upgrade that crappy TV, dude. :rolleyes:

Hahaha ... now I'm sure you are completely nuts... hahahah... I never said I had and Attakus Vader 1, I said I had a Koto Vader 1, it seems that even READ is above you capabilities, like someone said before a "regular Troll".

Don't come with lies that you know someone that knows me, it's just bull****, and very silly.

No kidding, maybe that's why he collects only GG crap. A room like that doesn't deserve anything better. Please never put any Attakus, 1/4 SS or Cinemaquette in that room, or the Drug Lords that lives up the hills in Brazil will steal them from you!

I just don't have Attakus SW pieces because I don't like their products . Nobody will steal it that was the dumbest commentary I ever read.I think it's time to show us your "spectacular collection", or are you affraid of showing it ?


No, YOU get your facts straight. The Drug Lords, or "traficantes", lives up the Hills in Brazil, in the so called "favelas", and they dominate the whole crime scenario in there. There's many partitions of organized crime on Brazil, and those Drug Lords dictates all the rules in some places. The sell drugs, like people sell water here. I lived in Brazil for one year, so I know what I'm talking about. Brazil have one of the biggest crime rates in the World, and part of this it's caused by the War's between the organized crime there


So YOU, smart@ss, should inform yourself a little better before talking crap and calling people names.

Man, you are really pathetic, what the crime rate in Brazil has anything to do with collectibles? I won't even discuss this totally off topic subject here, but just for your information, all drugs of South America are produced in Colombia, the drugs tha comes to the United States is same that goes to Brazil, and there are drug dealers in all places of the world.

LordSith
10-13-2005, 03:34 PM
Man, you are really pathetic, what the crime rate in Brazil has anything to do with collectibles? I won't even discuss this totally off topic subject here, but just for your information, all drugs of South America are produced in Colombia, the drugs tha comes to the United States is same that goes to Brazil, and there are drug dealers in all places of the world.

I NEVER said the drugs were produced in Brazil, did I?
I talked about the Drug Lords, or "traficantes" that commands the trafic in there. So learn how to read. And yes, there's drug dealers in all parts of the World, but in Brazil, people KNOW the selling places, and the governament and politics don't do ***** about them, since they benefict from their ilegal money.
Rio De Janeiro(where you live) it's one of the most violent places in the World. People are afraid to even walk in the streets.

But yes, it has nothing to do with collectibles. But be aware of buying anything better, tough, or they will steal from you! :horror

And yes, I know someone that knows you, seu babaca. Not a silly comment, but a true one. Not that it matters, or I care.

elwood49
10-13-2005, 04:03 PM
Also get your facts straight, the majority of illegal drugs come from Mexico and Columbia, not Brazil. Only good looking chicks come from Brazil, but you wouldn't know that would you?

I'm not going to get into this whole argument about manufacturers, because I think most people know where I stand. I pretty much agree with everything Gruson said earlier. I also agree with his rankings, although I would place GG above Koto only because of the materials they use. The new Snowtrooper and Blue Clone Kotos look better than anything GG has done, but they are still vinyl.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out that the comment above is way off. Go check out this film (one of my favorites of all time) about life in Rio:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0317248/

The "News from a Personal War" documentary supplement is truly eye-opening about gangs in Rio.

Here is a summary of the documentary from DVDTalk.com:
The Special Features on this DVD are limited to previews for Miramax films "Dirty Pretty Things" and "The Magdalene Sisters" and an hour-long documentary "News From a Personal War." The documentary focuses on the real drug wars and drug trade in Rio de Janeiro, providing a look at the history of the drug trade and drug wars and featuring interviews with many individuals who have either been involved with it or affected by it. The subjects of these interviews include police officers engaged in the fight on drug trafficking to the drug runners and dealers themselves and also offer interviews with mothers and children affected by the drug trade. As stark as the film itself may be, the documentary drives home the fact that the violence is not used as a thematic element for "shock value," but remains a constant, present element of the world captured by the film.

One of Nine
10-13-2005, 04:10 PM
I'm not going to get into this whole argument about manufacturers, because I think most people know where I stand. I pretty much agree with everything Gruson said earlier. I also agree with his rankings, although I would place GG above Koto only because of the materials they use. The new Snowtrooper and Blue Clone Kotos look better than anything GG has done, but they are still vinyl.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out that the comment above is way off. Go check out this film (one of my favorites of all time) about life in Rio:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0317248/

The "News from a Personal War" documentary supplement is truly eye-opening about gangs in Rio.

Like I said the majority of illegal drugs come from Columbia, If you read the news there is a thing called the War on Drugs which millions of $'s go to help the columbian army destroy the coca fields in columbia not Brazil. Yes Brazil has druglords and drug gangs just like any place in the world.

One of Nine
10-13-2005, 04:14 PM
So YOU, smart@ss, should inform yourself a little better before talking crap and calling people names.

So are you saying there are no drug lords where you live? Sorry my Turd refrence hit so close to home, how bout this I think your a snot nosed punk. :wacky

elwood49
10-13-2005, 04:20 PM
Like I said the majority of illegal drugs come from Columbia, If you read the news there is a thing called the War on Drugs which millions of $'s go to help the columbian army destroy the coca fields in columbia not Brazil. Yes Brazil has druglords and drug gangs just like any place in the world.

You really don't know what you're talking about and this is the last I'll say on this issue. From MSN Encarta:

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761554853_2/Rio_de_Janeiro_(city).html

Although Rio may be Brazil’s most beautiful city, it is also one of its most troubled. The favelas which blanket the slopes of surrounding hillsides house approximately 20 percent of the city’s residents and are often dangerous, unsanitary, and lacking in basic services such as water, sewerage, and, to a lesser extent, electricity. Many of the city’s poor have no jobs, no access to schools, and only limited access to medical care. However, literacy rates for Rio are high, nearly 90 percent, and a system of public hospitals and clinics provides at least some medical care to the city’s poorest residents. Police corruption is widespread. Environmental pollution is a problem throughout the metropolitan region, and the waters of Guanabara Bay are considered too polluted for safe bathing.

Rio experienced serious crime problems in the early 1990s, when powerful criminal gangs took over entire favela neighborhoods. The murders of homeless children in 1993 by corrupt police officers acting on behalf of commercial interests drew international attention to Rio’s social and criminal problems. With a murder rate of 61 per 100,000 people in 1994, Rio was one of the world’s most violent cities. This was more than twice the rate of 28 per 100,000 for São Paulo.

Again, go rent the DVD and tell me if you feel the same way. You seem to be speaking of issues in which you are uneducated and have absolutely no facts to back up.

The Josh
10-13-2005, 04:28 PM
This all relates to Polystone how? :confused:

Viking28
10-13-2005, 04:28 PM
Lets keep this stuff civil.

Gruson
10-13-2005, 04:31 PM
I also agree with his rankings, although I would place GG above Koto only because of the materials they use. The new Snowtrooper and Blue Clone Kotos look better than anything GG has done, but they are still vinyl.


Hey El, I can agree to this as well.

Shai
10-13-2005, 04:33 PM
Guys, isn'it supposed to be a message board about sideshow collectibles and statues stuff ??????? .............illegal drugs and crime lords ..... come on.....

LordSith
10-13-2005, 04:34 PM
Sorry my Turd refrence hit so close to home, how bout this I think your a snot nosed punk. :wacky

Better than beeing an ignorant moron. Read before you open your mouth, otherwise you will be proved wrong by people all the time.

LordSith
10-13-2005, 04:36 PM
Hey El, I can agree to this as well.

I agree, my list would differ only by having Attakus in front of SS for star wars stuff, and SS in front of Attakus for everything else.

LordSith
10-13-2005, 04:39 PM
By the way, sorry Viking28, but he started.

Gruson
10-13-2005, 04:50 PM
I agree, my list would differ only by having Attakus in front of SS for star wars stuff, and SS in front of Attakus for everything else.

For now, Sideshow is even better than Attakus IMO.

Kenobi - Sideshow's looks more like Sir Alec for sure
Luke - Sideshow's looks better (by far) I know it's an early Attakus piece and Attakus ROTJ Luke should be a lot better
Han - Sideshow's looks better even though Attakus is still nice. The Attakus Han and Chewie do look good together though
Vader - I will have to wait until I get it to decide as Attakus Vader 1 is awesome. Is it worth an extra $700 more than the Sideshow version though?

That's it for now until they announce another piece. Come on Fett maquette!!! :joy

LordSith
10-13-2005, 05:11 PM
For now, Sideshow is even better than Attakus IMO.

Kenobi - Sideshow's looks more like Sir Alec for sure
Luke - Sideshow's looks better (by far) I know it's an early Attakus piece and Attakus ROTJ Luke should be a lot better
Han - Sideshow's looks better even though Attakus is still nice. The Attakus Han and Chewie do look good together though
Vader - I will have to wait until I get it to decide as Attakus Vader 1 is awesome. Is it worth an extra $700 more than the Sideshow version though?

That's it for now until they announce another piece. Come on Fett maquette!!! :joy

Yes, but Attakus have many more pieces... with many more to come and IMO, nice sculpted statues looks better than fabric ones.... Luke is ok, so is Han.... But Han t-shirt looks too thick and his arms are kind of thin.... Obi is nice, but his robe dont' looks too good and Vader looks good.... Humans are not Attakus strongest point, even though it looks like it's changing from early Jedi Luke pictures.... Just like making capes and some cloth parts are not SS stronger point.... but some looks really awesome..... Both companies are awesome, and much better than GG for sure.... A Boba 1/4 Maquette would be awesome

Darklord Dave
10-13-2005, 07:37 PM
This thread has veered way off topic. Please start another thread to bash Attakus as this one is being locked.

However in this new thread I would request that everyone refrain from name calling, belittling other members and generally being an ***.

Thank you.