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thenammagazine
01-09-2009, 10:57 AM
Well, it seems like the lurkers and latecomers are finally joining us in picking up the torch where Sideshow dropped it and completing The Fellowship. To save everyone's sanity, both those who've completed the build from the repetition of reposting the same thing over and over again to answer the many forthcoming questions, and the newcomers from being bombarded with "search is your friend" or having to peel through hundreds of pages and thousands of posts in the Gimli Custom thread, it's all right here. While some builds and pieces may differ (and they look great too!), here's the popular gist of what was used to make a 1:6 Gimli Custom worthy of fitting right in with your Sideshow 12" LOTR figures, and just how we went about building the little bugger...


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6391/gimlicompletega8.jpg
Gimli Custom Menu

WHAT YOU'LL NEED TO GET STARTED:

Gimli Proper:
ToyBiz "rotocast" Gimli, ToyBiz "soft" Gimli, and DiD (Dragon in Dreams) Gimli. All are pictured in order of listing, below. Since every single aspect of this build has been long sold out and discontinued, your best bet for nabbing these pieces is ebaY (http://www.ebay.com) or Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com).

http://i6.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/11/04/9d8c_1.JPG http://i5.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/dd/62/22c3_1.JPG http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/32020416/aclick2enlarge/lotrrotkgimlimodel.gif

ToyBiz "rotocast" Gimli
Shoulder Armor, Gauntlets & Boots

ToyBiz "soft" Gimli
Headsculpt and Helm

DiD Gimli
Clothes, Axes, Harness, and Body

Accessories to make your Gimli POP!:
Ignite's 1/6 Teutonic Knight Chain Mail Hauberk, Soldier Story "Kirby" Green Beret fat suit (though just about any 1:6 fat suit will do) and Sideshow Frodo/Sam Lothlorien cloak with elven broach (solely for consistency across the line). Most of these can be gotten at Monkey Depot (www.monkeydepot.com) or Toy Anxiety (http://www.toyanxiety.com) when in stock or other 1:6 retailers who kit out their figures. When all else fails, try ebaY (http://www.ebay.com).

http://i19.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/1c/43/3e11_1.JPG https://www.monkeydepot.com/v/vspfiles/photos/SSL0135-XD047-2T.jpg http://shop.toyanxiety.net/images/1215813345456-214974481.jpeg

thenammagazine
01-09-2009, 12:03 PM
DiD Gimli Body Modifications

It goes without saying that as it stands, none of the bodies will work. The ToyBiz soft body is too short. It's actually shorter than Sideshow's Frodo. The DiD body is too tall. 11.5" dwarf anyone? Didn't think so. Good news is, the DiD can be made to work. And it does, well. And let me stress, this is considerably EASIER than it looks, so don't get overwhelmed by looking at the pictures and thinking "&#@$, I can't do this!" because you can. It really is a piece of cake.

Gimli needs to be a head taller than the Sideshow Hobbits but no taller than the shoulder of Sideshow's Boromir, or in this case, we used the uber sexy Giles:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h17/theNAMmagazine/GimliTriComp.jpg

Let's get started...

First, you'll need to strip down Gimli (1:6 pole not included, sorry) to his naked, leprosy-looking flesh. Don't worry when you see black splotches on his arms and legs, that's normal and most likely a result of the dye used for the clothes. Once he's all sexy, give his head a good wrenching. You'll need to pry the outer face off of the inner headrest so that he looks like the first image in Pix's tutorial. Take it away Pix....

Ok I am endevoring to make a comprehensive tutorial on how to customize Gimli with ALOT of help from thenammagazine:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22041.JPG

1) Cut the forearms down to the bottom of the hand socket. [For this, Pix used a box cutter. I prefer a razor blade (paint section at your local WalMart) since it's sharper, but will require considerably more caution when using. Remember, always, and I stress ALWAYS, cut away from your person.]

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP2207.JPG
http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP2208.JPG

2) Lie the body down flat but keeping the midsection turned at a cross angle to the body and cut along the seam with the screw driver nice and deep down both sides of the midsection (being careful not to mar the belly and the chest pieces.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22051.JPG

3) Place a flathead screwdriver in the cut in the seam you have made and get a hammer. Drive a wedge until you get one side open and repeat with the other side. [Go ape$#!+ on this piece though. You won't be needing it anyway and it's only going to feed the garbage. If you're finding it hard to gain entry, crack it apart with a hammer. Just use caution not to damage the surrounding pieces or the internals.]

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22111.JPG

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22101.JPG


CONT'D NEXT POST...

pixletwin
01-09-2009, 12:09 PM
Just FYI: I will be deleting posts in this thread so as to keep the important stuff on top.

thenammagazine
01-09-2009, 12:35 PM
...BODY MOD CONT'D...(Part 2)

1) You need to separate the chest pieces. Its probably better to do this from underneath the chest cavity [recommended as it hides the damage] rather than the shoulder but I figured that it will all be covered up with clothes and such anyway so who cares? Cut the seams with an exacto knife the same as with the mid section. [Should you go underneath, be sure to trim any rough edges before reassembly.]

2) [Pick a POE (or point of entry for those non-military people among us) and run your razor blade across the seams of the chest, to weaken the glue.] Stick a flathead screwdriver in the cut seam as before.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22121.JPGhttp://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22131.JPG

3) Pry the two halves apart and the whole thing will fall apart and you will panic and curse. But its OK as long as you didn't break any of the parts. (NOTE: Remember which arms went in which sockets since it seems if you get them mixed up they will be REALLY REALLY loose!) :duh [One of the easiest ways to prevent arm wobble which may occur regardless, even if the arms are in the correct sockets, is to lay down a small amount of clingwrap across the sockets before placing the arms back in. you can easily test this by putting the body back together (arms in place), squeezing it tight and giving it a good shake. If the arms don't move, you're good to go.]

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22141.JPG

4) This is the really tricky part. You have attach the stomach part to the inside of the chest cavity where the midsection used to attach. While keeping strait (because the tendency is for it to flip off) you need to reattach the neck post and arms so that it looks something like this:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22181.JPG

[This step actually doesn't have to be that hard. Unfortunately, in his impatience (:p) Pix started without me. SO... Still have the internals from that middle piece you cut out? Unscrew them and remove the plastic washer. Then, carefully unscrew the plastic stem at the waist of the body, add the washer on top (so that you have two, back to back), and screw it back together. Then, the two washers will easily hold the torso piece between them and you won't be caught acting like the damn thing's a mousetrap ready snap your finger.]

5) Now glue around the edges (being careful not to put glue by any joints) and carefully put the front chest piece back on be really careful not make the stomach mechanism dislodge). It took me 3 tries before I got it right [If you use the extra washer, you'll surpass the agony of retries :lol]. But now I have a (relatively) dwarf sized Gimli.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP2219.JPG

CONT'D NEXT POST...

thenammagazine
01-09-2009, 02:02 PM
...BODY MOD CONT'D...(Part 3)

[With a blowdryer, go ahead and give the headrest a good heat and peel it off the neck. You won't be needing it. Except for the feet, at this point in the modification, your body should look like so:]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h17/theNAMmagazine/GimliBody.jpg

1) Break off the toes off of the DiD body See above pic for example.]:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP2236.JPG

2) Carve down the DiD neck post [into the shape of a straight post, removing all of the mushroom-like lip.]:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22391.JPG

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/SANY2812.jpg

At this stage, modification of the DiD Gimli body is complete. :D

King Darkness
01-09-2009, 02:29 PM
<hr style="color: rgb(51, 102, 51); background-color: rgb(51, 102, 51);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Tried repainting my Gimli, still need to touch up a few areas.

What do you guys think?

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/SANY2866.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/SANY2871.jpg

FlyAndFight
01-09-2009, 02:54 PM
Great repaint and Fantastic tuturial!

Here's a repaint WIP of my Gimli:

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8274/gimlismng6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

King Darkness
01-09-2009, 02:59 PM
GREAT repaint! Love the beard :rock

carbo-fation
01-09-2009, 05:10 PM
You're all so talented!:monkey2

:rock

The Josh
01-10-2009, 12:19 AM
Would an extra hobbit elven cloak fit on the TB Gimli?

pixletwin
01-10-2009, 12:33 AM
you mean around the neck or lengthwise?

The Josh
01-10-2009, 12:34 AM
Lengthwise. I may have to mod it neck wise.

thenammagazine
01-11-2009, 09:54 PM
Lengthwise. I may have to mod it neck wise.

Are you talking about the regular TB "soft" Gimli? If so, yes, easily and no mod necessary. Just heat up the head and it'll pop right off, then just put the cloak over the neck and pop the head back on.

thenammagazine
01-12-2009, 12:55 PM
ToyBiz "rotocast" Gimli Modifications

http://i6.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/11/04/9d8c_1.JPG

This is more of a butchering than a modification really, since you'll be taking pieces from him to dress your DiD Gimli. While several freaks have just used the "soft" parts we chose to use the rotocast here since they're not only easier, but the "rotocast" gauntlets offer cut wrists which adds articulation to the overall piece and makes posing with his axe, that much easier. Should you stay with the soft, in WorGar's Gimli Custom thread (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43945), there are alternative means for articulation. However, that's considerably more work (we're lazy :p) and the size difference is really trivial. Anyways, onto the process...

Ok. I boiled off the Roto-Gimli's boots [I actually just cut them straight off with the razor blade and then used a little heat and a screwdriver to pull out the plugs. So whichever floats your boat. But if you're boiling, keep the water hot...]:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22331.JPG

I also used a saw and chopped off the gauntlets/Gloves from his arm and filed down the rough edges on the gauntlet using my wife's nail file. Then I boiled the arm stumps and pulled them off [Again, Pix made more work for himself than necessary :p. If you're boiling, just dip his arms and pull the gauntlets right off. Then, slice through right at the top of the gauntlet (just above the little "cloth" piece) and discard the rest of the arm.]:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22341.JPG

[By heating up the pieces, both the gauntlets and the boots will easily slip over the wrist stumps and trimmed feet of the DiD body like a glove, or two and boots!:p] And here he is at this stage [of the build]:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22381.JPG

[If you're a progress rat and need to see your progression for $#!+s and giggles, you can dress him up in all his regalia. Here's what he'll look like:]

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22401.JPG

[Since you'll only be heating them up to take them off for the rest of the mods, I strongly suggest you hold off on assembly until just about all the modifications are complete as it will make it less time consuming and easier, but hey, I assembled mine after each step too! :p]

I still need to get the shoulder pieces off of the roto-Gimli and do some futzing with the clothes to make things seem a bit more in proportion, but this far in the game I think he is looking pretty good.

CONT'D NEXT POST...

carbo-fation
01-13-2009, 06:55 PM
Could someone help me out with the fat-suit. I checked out Monkey Depot, TA and ebay but I couldn't find any. I think I am doing something wrong.
Also, will this chainmail work as well?

http://cgi.ebay.com/IGNITE-1-6-Knight-II-016-Chain-Mail-Hauberk-Coif_W0QQitemZ270319844538QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

pixletwin
01-13-2009, 08:54 PM
I don't thnk that chain mail will work without a lot of cutting.

thenammagazine
01-14-2009, 04:02 AM
Could someone help me out with the fat-suit. I checked out Monkey Depot, TA and ebay but I couldn't find any. I think I am doing something wrong.
Also, will this chainmail work as well?

http://cgi.ebay.com/IGNITE-1-6-Knight-II-016-Chain-Mail-Hauberk-Coif_W0QQitemZ270319844538QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

Actually, that mail will be too short. I'm PMing you a couple of links to the items you requested.

pixletwin
01-14-2009, 08:26 AM
If it were me I would just wait for EC to report on how his casts of the armor bits go. You might be able to score them from him. I think $40 i s too much for some chopped up bits.

Entropy
01-14-2009, 02:05 PM
Actually, that mail will be too short. I'm PMing you a couple of links to the items you requested.

I think it'd work out okay to use, but as pix pointed out, it'd take a fair amount of cutting. The thing I do not care for about the other mail is the brown stitched edge.

pixletwin
01-14-2009, 02:10 PM
its the brown trimming that has kept me from pulling the trigger on buying it too.

thenammagazine
01-14-2009, 03:05 PM
I think it'd work out okay to use, but as pix pointed out, it'd take a fair amount of cutting. The thing I do not care for about the other mail is the brown stitched edge.

It's not stitching, it's actually leather. And although it's not "screen accurate," it actually matches the leather of the belt perfectly. To be perfectly honest, if you're shooting for an OCD accuracy, all you really need to do is clean off all the glitter from the DiD "mail" and paint it silver. As for the Ignite mail, again, I know it's not screen accurate, but it's one of those rare instances where I actually like it better as it's just another detail that ties the figure together that much more.

pixletwin
01-14-2009, 03:11 PM
Are you gonna post some pics of Gimli EC? :date

Entropy
01-14-2009, 03:19 PM
Are you gonna post some pics of Gimli EC? :date

Maaaybe.

Sorry I'm running behind. :o Unfortunately, it'll prolly be a couple more days before I can post pics of the cast, and they'll be much better than those blurry messes I posted earlier, but the good news is I'll be churning them out for sale, as well as the shoulder armor, as soon as the pics are up. :joy

I actually tweaked the beard a tiny bit more before the mold was made, only a few minor bits, but I'm happier with the flow and details now.

As for my over all Gimli custom, I'm doing a few more things to him and will get images up as soon as I can. Just not as fast as you guys on this one...

pixletwin
01-14-2009, 03:21 PM
Oooooo you tweaked it more. :drool

Can't wait to see what you did. :rock

carbo-fation
01-14-2009, 03:49 PM
So if I were to order your Armor, EC, would I still need the roto Gimli?

pixletwin
01-14-2009, 03:58 PM
If you planned on using the soft boots and gauntlets, no. :)

carbo-fation
01-14-2009, 04:16 PM
But the rotocast versions are better, right? Because I want the best Gimli ever.....:D

pixletwin
01-14-2009, 04:26 PM
Well which is better is up to debate.

The soft is easier to find but the gloves and boots are a fraction larger than the roto ones.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22261.JPG
http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP22251.JPG

Some people on here prefer the larger sized ones others not. Really its just a matter of personal preference.

Entropy
01-14-2009, 04:28 PM
I'm using the rotocast shoulder armor, which I've cast, the larger soft gauntlets, which I'm adding wrist articulation to, and if I had to pick, the soft boots, but I'm sculpting new ones from scratch, which I hope to offer casts of, using those as reference. I've yet to be thoroughly impressed by any of the mail I've seen; all have pros and cons.

carbo-fation
01-14-2009, 04:29 PM
The soft versions don't look that bad. I think the hands might be a bit too large, but I don't see much difference in the feet. Decisions, decisions.....

King Darkness
01-14-2009, 04:33 PM
I am using the soft and I think they work just fine. With everything on him Gimli is pretty bulky and the larger hands are not noticeable at all imo.

As for the feet I think the work fine too, like with the gauntlets.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/SANY2643.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:void%280%29;)
They dont look too large to me. I also like to "bend" at the ankle because I can live Gimli a wide stance.

pixletwin
01-14-2009, 04:37 PM
Chase, how are you hanging that axe on Gimli's back?

King Darkness
01-14-2009, 04:40 PM
I have a small hole cut into the cloak and the axe through that and then into his belt.

pixletwin
01-14-2009, 04:44 PM
It looks really good. :rock

King Darkness
01-14-2009, 04:52 PM
Thnx Marc.

I also finished the "dry brushing" and "dark washing" that FaF told me about. I cant seem to take a good pick the picks up the detail, but it looks much better than the flat single coloredness I had before.

Before:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/SANY2866.jpg

After:
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/KingDarkness07/SANY2904.jpg


You can see the subtle differences in the tones better in person. I wish I could take a pick the picks them up because I am pretty happy with how they turned out.

pixletwin
01-14-2009, 05:05 PM
Dude I may just send my Bilbo and Gimli heads to you. :lol

King Darkness
01-14-2009, 05:14 PM
Dude I may just send my Bilbo and Gimli heads to you. :lol

:lol

Please dont. It was a monumental exercise in patience and fear, which I would choose not to live through again :lol I took solace in the fact if I ^^^^ed it up I could always send it away to be fixed, I dont think I would feel to good about ruining a freinds sculpt though :o

I must have had the sprirt of Tolkien flowing through me when I did Bilbo and Gimli. I felt confident in my miminal skills after I did these two so I tried painteing a couple spare heads I had laying aroud which ened in disaster :( I cant seem to get a skin tone to look decent, it either comes out all burnt orange or super pale, like a freakin vampire or something :rotfl

Any confidence I had after doing Bildo and Gimli has quickly gone away :monkey2

pixletwin
01-14-2009, 08:54 PM
The Lord surely doth giveth and he taketh away. :monkey2


http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/Highlander/Images/Highlander-KurganPromo.jpg

King Darkness
01-14-2009, 09:03 PM
The Lord surely doth giveth and he taketh away. :monkey2


http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/Highlander/Images/Highlander-KurganPromo.jpg


So true :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2

jason2885
01-18-2009, 06:14 AM
Question for all of your what type of glue is the best kind to get to put the figure halves back together.


Also how is the best way to get Toybiz soft Gimlis boots and hands off.

thenammagazine
01-18-2009, 10:04 AM
:lol

Please dont. It was a monumental exercise in patience and fear, which I would choose not to live through again :lol I took solace in the fact if I ^^^^ed it up I could always send it away to be fixed, I dont think I would feel to good about ruining a freinds sculpt though :o

I must have had the sprirt of Tolkien flowing through me when I did Bilbo and Gimli. I felt confident in my miminal skills after I did these two so I tried painteing a couple spare heads I had laying aroud which ened in disaster :( I cant seem to get a skin tone to look decent, it either comes out all burnt orange or super pale, like a freakin vampire or something :rotfl

Any confidence I had after doing Bildo and Gimli has quickly gone away :monkey2

When I was trying to match the color of the Hobbit body with Bilbo's face, I started with Testor's flat tan, and kept adding flat white until I got a basic tan that was near identical to the body. Then I sparingly added a bit of light tan (which is actually a bit more pink) to reach that tiny hint of flesh tone, until it just "popped." I used the same method for Gimli but added considerably more light tan to get his unique color.


Question for all of your what type of glue is the best kind to get to put the figure halves back together.


Also how is the best way to get Toybiz soft Gimlis boots and hands off.

Hey Jason. Just your basic superglue or superglue gel works fine. Nothing fancy. As for the soft, nevermind it. You have a PM. ;)

P.S. Welcome aboard! :D

jason2885
01-18-2009, 10:49 AM
Hey Jason. Just your basic superglue or superglue gel works fine. Nothing fancy. As for the soft, nevermind it. You have a PM. ;)

P.S. Welcome aboard! :D

Okay will try and find some. It really hurt paying that for roto Gimli but I guess it is better than trying to get the other one to work.

What tool on dremel do I need to use to shape the upper arm armor out of.

pixletwin
01-18-2009, 12:42 PM
You don't need a dremmel. I just had an exactlo knife. Boil the roto and it is soft as butter when you try to cut it.

jason2885
01-20-2009, 10:04 PM
I am such a retard, I was trying to do the body modifications today while I was out for a snow day and I sliced the side of my finger with an xacto knife while I was taking off the feet. The odd part is it didnt really hurt at all. I still need to cut the arms off and trim down the neck post. Should I heat up the neck post before doing this.

Also when will the last part of the custom guide be up?

pixletwin
01-20-2009, 10:49 PM
Sorry guys that my fault. I took pictures of my removal of the shoulder armor but my wife deleted them by accident.

We have other pics though and I'll put something together tomorrow.

thenammagazine
01-21-2009, 08:52 AM
Sorry guys that my fault. I took pictures of my removal of the shoulder armor but my wife deleted them by accident.

We have other pics though and I'll put something together tomorrow.

10 lashes with a wet noodle! :p

pixletwin
01-21-2009, 08:59 AM
:whip :crying

jason2885
01-21-2009, 12:14 PM
Does anyone know where I can get the ignite chainmail at.

pixletwin
01-21-2009, 12:28 PM
eBay is your best bet right now I think.

El Skutto
01-21-2009, 12:30 PM
Ebay's probably your best bet right now. Do a search in the titles and descriptions for Ignite Hospitaller or check 7TOYS7's store. From what I can tell, there are no hauberks currently up for auction, although there are some full figures available.

Barring that, you could always contact Toy Anxiety and see what he's got available.

thenammagazine
01-21-2009, 12:41 PM
Does anyone know where I can get the ignite chainmail at.

Jason, don't listen to them. :p :lol PM sent.

Blu Falcon
01-21-2009, 12:42 PM
Fat suits have been plentiful on ebay lately if anyone is looking.

pixletwin
01-21-2009, 12:56 PM
Link?............

jason2885
01-21-2009, 01:46 PM
Fat suits have been plentiful on ebay lately if anyone is looking.

I found one of the Kirby ones the other day at Monkey Depot but it was the only one they had.

and I now have all the pieces for Gimli I believe.

El Skutto
01-21-2009, 01:47 PM
Jason, don't listen to them. :p :lol PM sent.

Let me guess, via your connections in the Yakuza... :monkey3

thenammagazine
01-21-2009, 03:49 PM
Let me guess, via your connections in the Yakuza... :monkey3

That information will cost ya half a pinky! :p

jason2885
01-25-2009, 05:56 PM
Did yall guys shave down the inside of Gimli boots and shoulder armor to fit on the DID figure.

Also did everyone cut the shirt to make it shorter after chopping the arms off. I am waiting on the chain mail to get here and I can actually finish making Gimli until I can get someone to repaint him. Does anyone have an suggestions on who would be willing to do that.

thenammagazine
01-25-2009, 08:49 PM
Did yall guys shave down the inside of Gimli boots and shoulder armor to fit on the DID figure.

Also did everyone cut the shirt to make it shorter after chopping the arms off. I am waiting on the chain mail to get here and I can actually finish making Gimli until I can get someone to repaint him. Does anyone have an suggestions on who would be willing to do that.

1) No. The boots don't need to be cut down at all (assuming you're using the roto). Just make sure you pull out the plug, snip the toes of the DiD body and then, with a good heat, they should slip right over.

2) The shoulder armor needs to have the upper shoulder area trimmed out (look at the completed Gimli on pg.1 of the thread for reference). As for the lower section (since Pix is lagging :p), you just cut straight into it from the inside to where it can be popped over the DiD arm and "cuff" it. The tension in the vinyl will hold it on Gimli's arms.

3) Don't worry about cutting the shirt. It'll add bulk under the armor once it comes in. You don't want a Gimli with skinny arms now, do ya? :lol

jason2885
01-25-2009, 08:59 PM
1) No. The boots don't need to be cut down at all (assuming you're using the roto). Just make sure you pull out the plug, snip the toes of the DiD body and then, with a good heat, they should slip right over.

2) The shoulder armor needs to have the upper shoulder area trimmed out (look at the completed Gimli on pg.1 of the thread for reference). As for the lower section (since Pix is lagging :p), you just cut straight into it from the inside to where it can be popped over the DiD arm and "cuff" it. The tension in the vinyl will hold it on Gimli's arms.

3) Don't worry about cutting the shirt. It'll add bulk under the armor once it comes in. You don't want a Gimli with skinny arms now, do ya? :lol


Alright thats what I was thinking about the shoulder armor. I got the top all shaped up now just got to go about making the bottom part fit over the arm.
All I need now is for the mail to be delivered and I can complete him.

thenammagazine
01-25-2009, 09:05 PM
Alright thats what I was thinking about the shoulder armor. I got the top all shaped up now just got to go about making the bottom part fit over the arm.
All I need now is for the mail to be delivered and I can complete him.

Again, don't cut anything out of the bottom part. Just cut into it, through to the middle from the inside. When you slide it over the arm, it'll hug it like a "C"

pixletwin
01-25-2009, 09:08 PM
It also helps to boil the shoulder armor and clamp it around the shoulder so it is a snug fit.

jason2885
01-25-2009, 09:32 PM
ohh ok gotcha I need to cut down the middle. That will be alot easier.

pixletwin
01-25-2009, 09:35 PM
only cut about 1/4 of an inch though.

Wor-Gar
02-21-2009, 12:10 PM
Anyone here familiar with the OLAF "rubber" chainmail? Would it work for Gimli? I think the short sleeves might be too short for the arms and the "rubber" thing concerns me but it looks nice in the pictures.

Any help is appreciated.

thenammagazine
02-22-2009, 08:18 PM
Anyone here familiar with the OLAF "rubber" chainmail? Would it work for Gimli? I think the short sleeves might be too short for the arms and the "rubber" thing concerns me but it looks nice in the pictures.

Any help is appreciated.

Dunno. I used the Ignite mail. You can tell the rubber mail is rubber.

Wor-Gar
02-22-2009, 10:47 PM
You can tell the rubber mail is rubber.

That's kind of what I'm afraid of.

El Skutto
02-24-2009, 06:55 AM
That's kind of what I'm afraid of.

I'm not a fan of the use of rubber for figures or accessories, regardless if they look better or more realistic than the alternative. Rubber deteriorates over time, either by breaking down entirely or losing its flexibility and becoming brittle. It may take 5 years and it may take 20, but it will happen at some point.

That's one of the reasons I'm not a fan of Hot Toys' use of rubber for figures like Rambo, Rocky or Batman. Sure, they look fantastic now, but how will they look when the muscle body or armour starts breaking or falling apart?

This is in no way a knock against Hot Toys or anyone who collects their figures by the way, just a statement of my own paranoia when it comes to rubber and 1:6 scale figures. There are probably ways to delay the deterioration of the rubber, but it really isn't the ideal material to use for long-term collectibles.

thenammagazine
02-24-2009, 08:54 AM
I'm not a fan of the use of rubber for figures or accessories, regardless if they look better or more realistic than the alternative. Rubber deteriorates over time, either by breaking down entirely or losing its flexibility and becoming brittle. It may take 5 years and it may take 20, but it will happen at some point.

That's one of the reasons I'm not a fan of Hot Toys' use of rubber for figures like Rambo, Rocky or Batman. Sure, they look fantastic now, but how will they look when the muscle body or armour starts breaking or falling apart?

This is in no way a knock against Hot Toys or anyone who collects their figures by the way, just a statement of my own paranoia when it comes to rubber and 1:6 scale figures. There are probably ways to delay the deterioration of the rubber, but it really isn't the ideal material to use for long-term collectibles.

I think the biggest contributor is dust. I have a Medicom Godzilla which is pretty old (as far as rubber collectibles go). He's been in the box most of his life and I only take him out on occasion and he's still as good now as he was when I picked him up. However, I have silencers on my dog tags which have been hanging on the key hooks forever. They're in an area that sees a bit of foot traffic and are never dusted (never think to honestly). I usually have to replace them about once a year because the rubber rots. Hence why I'm suspecting dust being the biggest contributor.

El Skutto
02-24-2009, 12:06 PM
It's certainly in the list of suspects. I just feel really bad for all those people who shelled out mad bucks for Hot Toys' ED-209 only to find the rubber "mesh" section already starting to deteriorate, and the majority of those were never even taken out of their boxes. I think I'd break down in tears if something like that ever happened to one of my PFs or something equally valuable. :(

shovelchop81
05-02-2009, 05:35 AM
:fireworksThis has been incredibly helpful, thanks!

pixletwin
05-02-2009, 03:23 PM
Welkome. Who are you? :lol

Blu Falcon
05-03-2009, 08:25 AM
Welkome. Who are you? :lol


Why he's shovelchop81 :lol

shovelchop81
05-04-2009, 05:12 PM
hi! sorry didn't realise i was supposed to introduce myself, Blue Falcon kindly pointed me to this thread as i saw his custom Gimli on the OSW forum and explained I'd love to make one too. since then I'm now in the process of upgrading all my DID versions in the same way, ie combining the best of the Toy Biz stuff with the DID and adding,creating and modifying parts. once I'm done with that I'm planning on a Saruman and an Orc. if anyone has any advice it would be welcomed. I'm a motorcycle mechanic by trade so i love making things and i have a Bsc degree in product design hence the arty side.

shovelchop81
05-06-2009, 09:10 PM
I've gone a different rout with Gimli's head sculpt and used real hair (i don't seem to be able to make a custom now a days without real hair, must be a weird fetish or something!:slap) anyway see what you think.

carbo-fation
05-09-2009, 03:52 PM
Looks really good. Great job man!

pixletwin
05-09-2009, 07:15 PM
I am really excited kfor you to see your Gimli Carbo. It looks better than mine even. :lol

carbo-fation
05-09-2009, 07:19 PM
I am excited as well. I got EC's shoulder armor and head sculpt painted and ready to go. I can't wait to have my fellowship completed.:rock

Wor-Gar
07-16-2009, 08:47 PM
Figured I'd post this here too...

Got my special EntropyChicken Super Upgrade GEAR...


Here's the shoulder armor:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Gimli1-1.jpg


Beautiful cast and paintwork! Looks so real in hand!



And of course, I got one of EC's Giml heads, painted by the man himself...


http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Gimli2.jpghttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Gimli3.jpg


Weathered and cranky...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Gimli4.jpg



For those curious by compares: Original vs. Upgrade


http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Gimli7.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Gimli6-1.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Gimli8-1.jpg



Last pic with helmet -- Warrior Dwarf!


http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/Gimli10.jpg