Hot Toys Reeve Superman or Keaton Batman?

[Rock83]

Just for fun,with the other thread going i thought we needed a poll,it would be interesting to see what people prefer from Hot Toys,if you were to pick one of the two.

I prefer Reeve Superman.

[The Mike]

Reeve Superman without a doubt.

[EVILFACE]

Gonna be a one sided pole lol.

[OSCORP]

Keaton Batman should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Reeve Superman. :)

[IrishJedi]

Where is the option for BOTH? :huh

[Cocoboloboy]

Keaton Batman should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Reeve Superman. :)

I agree. Really brings Keaton Batman down.:D

And yeah, I want both.

[Rock83]

Keaton Batman should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Reeve Superman. :)

Very true,i know many love Batman but i was never a fan.I watched Superman all the time as a kid,ran out playing with the other kids in my Superman costume:lol

[King Darkness]

Reeve Superman

[OSCORP]

I agree. Really brings Keaton Batman down.:D

And yeah, I want both.

But you want Keaton Batman a little more.

/Shame


:duh

[Rock83]

Where is the option for BOTH? :huh

thats the point,which one do you like more...

[Cocoboloboy]

But you want Keaton Batman a little more.

/Shame


:duh

Yep.:wacky More than just a little more though.

[RJMacReady16]

Those Reeves movies are horrid.


Keaton Batman. Those first two Bat-films changed the landscape forever.

[creecher]

Where is the option for BOTH? :huh
Where is the option for neither?
thats the point,which one do you like more...
Which one I like more is a different poll, but you brought Hot Toys into it.

[Voorhees27]

I voted for Reeve Superman, great idea for a poll! Unfortunetly you brought two MUST HAVE figures Rock so theres gonna be alot of fussing! :lol

Obviously i'd want both but if HT's came down to just one of the two i'd take Superman in a heart beat!

[Buttmunch]

Batman of course.

[Ven]

Keaton of course....

[OSCORP]

Those Reeves movies are horrid.


Keaton Batman. Those first two Bat-films changed the landscape forever.


You're on ignore!






























:wacky

[wofford29]

I really don't and never will get the love for Reeve as Superman. I wouldn't want a Keaton Batman either though.

[monkeydad16]

Keaton Batman.

Ignore Ashton, he's still upset over the Superman Returns debacle. :monkey4

[wookilar8]

Seeing as I already have a Keaton Batman, I voted for Reeves Superman.

[BXCOLLECTOR]

love the superman movies

but im a bigger batman fan so KEATON wins:rock

[nash]

As far as i'm concerned the ONLY batman is BALE. Keaton and everyone else was terrible. Reeves as Superman was legendary.

[rw23]

Reeve FTW! :banana

[Snake Eater]

No question here. Reeve all the way.

[RJMacReady16]

You're on ignore!



:wacky

Ouchies.

:monkey2

[The Drizzle]

Reeve all the way. He is a Superhero Icon- I need a Superman figure, and will not settle for that poser Brandon Routh in his inaccurate costume. Hell, Dean Cain was a more believable Superman than Routh, and Cain was restricted by a TV budget. Keaton was a compelling Batman for the time, his performance a revelation, but the films hold up devastatingly poorly, though I do consider myself a Keaton (as an actor) fan. (He kicks *** in "Much Ado About Nothing".)

[blakus939]

Keaton, hands down. THE definitive batman, imho. If a superman got made, of course, Reeve is the only superman period in my eyes, he is probably the definitive superhero of both, but i personally want a well made Keaton first. I'd buy both however

[Dr.Mirakle32]

There is no question. I would have to buy both.

[Reinhardt]

Reeve Superman

[DinoLast]

I need a Superman figure, and will not settle for that poser Brandon Routh in his inaccurate costume. Hell, Dean Cain was a more believable Superman than Routh

Choking on my coffee. What! you're kidding right?

All this talk about the inaccurate costume. If you check superman's history his costume has had many changes

I'm going for Reeve. We need something to make up for that awful DC direct statue.

[The Drizzle]

Choking on my coffee. What! you're kidding right?

All this talk about the inaccurate costume. If you check superman's history his costume has had many changes

I'm going for Reeve. We need something to make up for that awful DC direct statue.

Superman's costume has had a basic look for decades. Cain's costume was close to Reeve's costume, was close to Byrne's costume, was close to Swan's costume, you get the picture. Yes, it was a bit different early on, and the shield especially has evolved some over the years, but the fact remains that the reds were too dark on the Routh costume, as well as the shield too small. To my knowledge, he has never had the "S" on his belt, either. It looked like overkill, the aesthetics were bad.
Ohyeah! The cape attachment looked bad, too. Superman has always had that cool "cape tucked in" look at the neckline, and Routh's costume did away with that. It just seemed like the coolest things about Supe's costume were done away with for the Routh, and for no good reason. The "panties" rode too low, and the boots were a bit too short, too. The lowered "underpants" combined with a smaller "S" made his torso look too enlongated- it exaggerated his appearance, making his legs look short, and his torso too tall.

[Snake Eater]

but the fact remains that the reds were too dark on the Routh costume, as well as the shield too small. To my knowledge, he has never had the "S" on his belt, either. It looked like overkill, the aesthetics were bad. It was a new interpretation of the costume, that's why some things were changed.

I loved the new suit, the little 's' making up the large S on the shield was a nice touch.

[The Drizzle]

It was a new interpretation of the costume, that's why some things were changed.

Well, that's obvious.
That said, I thought it got rid of the best details of the classic costume in favor of pointless changes. it was an unnecessary new interpretation, just Bryan Singer's way of putting his own mark on it. Not needed.

[Darth Snoopy]

Reeve Superman.

[Batman5]

Reeve Superman ftw.
While I want a Keaton Batman I'll take a Reeve Superman in a heart beat.

[Snake Eater]

Well, that's obvious.
That was my point. A classic ver suit would have looked dated in a glossy new Supes film like SR was. Update was needed and well done.

[Riko]

Keaton Batman, no doubt.

Menacing, dark, black, a cool mask, gadgets + even a batmobile => all the stuff a serious superhero must be made of ánd would be nice to have in a 1/6 scale :)

OE YEAH!:chew
http://bruehoyt.com/superheroes/DC/batman/bruce/batmankeaton3.jpghttp://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k180/Parallax42/Batman.jpg

[fantasymaker]

Absolute keaton batman .:monkey5

[Ven]

everyone who voted reeve, you're dead to me.

[rabidwolverine21]

i like em both but if i had to pick it would be keaton batman, and god knows hot toys could make a bad *** figure for each of them.

[villainsfan42]

i said batman, but i would want one from batman and one from returns.

also i would really like to have both reeves superman and keaton batman.

ht should do 3 two-packs from the original movies: superman and batman
clark kent and bruce wayne
joker and luthor

[Batfreak]

i'd love both, but being a lifetime long batman fan, batman all the way. hes more visually appealing to me.

[a-dev]

I voted Keaton Batman as he'd be more visually appealing to me too. Definitely want both though.

On the SR updated outfit debate I side with those defending the SR suit. It needed to be updated. You can't honestly believe that Reeve's suit would look perfectly fine in a new superman film and amongst all other modern superhero films. It can be appreciated on a nostalgiac level but c'mon you have to admit that appearance-wise that suit is barely a step up from a childs superman pyjamas. I loved the SR suit, the film wasn't great.

[The Drizzle]

I voted Keaton Batman as he'd be more visually appealing to me too. Definitely want both though.

On the SR updated outfit debate I side with those defending the SR suit. It needed to be updated. You can't honestly believe that Reeve's suit would look perfectly fine in a new superman film and amongst all other modern superhero films. It can be appreciated on a nostalgiac level but c'mon you have to admit that appearance-wise that suit is barely a step up from a childs superman pyjamas. I loved the SR suit, the film wasn't great.

I don't mind the changes in materials- Spider-Man proved updated materials can really improve the look without changing the classic design elements. What I didn't like was that the colors more closely resembled "Bad Superman" in Superman 3, the boots were cut too short, the belt did not need an "s", and the small chest emblem makes Superman look like he has a stretched torso.
Maybe I can show what I mean with a comparison picture:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z128/Drizzle-Pix/Toy%20Photos/supes.jpg
If you look at Reeve, you'll see his costume neckline is more open, it's almost a straight line below his neck, with the cape tucked in; this element is pretty unique to the Superman costume. On Routh, the neckline is tight, with the cape connection looking almost like some kind of Halloween costume knock-off of the neckline.
Also notice how much higher Reeve's boots go, it just looks more natural. I think this picture also shows that the color balance of the Reeve suit just looks better, on Routh, the reds are way too dark, and inexplicably the blue looks idunno, "bubblegummy". I also added an arrow to show how much of a gap between the emblem and waistline there is- it only serves to make Routh's proportions look distorted. Look to the art of greats like Alex Ross- he doesn't feel the need to change these elements- it's still "classic" in appearance, and not at all silly looking.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z128/Drizzle-Pix/Toy%20Photos/ross.jpg
Just look at Ross' wide open collar- it looks bold, manly. Compared to that, the Routh looks wimpy, like underoos.
I don't for a moment think that the spandex of the Reeve days should be used again- Spider-Man espescially shows how nice an ultramodern fabric can enhance. I'm just not satisfied with the proportions and details of the Routh suit.

Oh, and I apologize if I'm getting a tad off track, I just didn't think what I was saying was being understood. It's about the design elements, not about fabric and execution. For instance, I don't mind the raised look of the shield on Routh, I just think it needs to be bigger.

[DPrime]

I'm not a huge DC fan but Reeve's Superman was definitive in a lot of ways. I loved the Tim Burton Batman movies but I don't feel the same way about Michael Keaton. I probably would pass on a Keaton Batman, but would almost definitely get a Reeves Superman from Hot Toys.

[Puay]

I would have to go for Keaton Batman.

Gosh, I really hope HT would do villians from the early Batman movies.

[Riko]

i like em both but if i had to pick it would be keaton batman, and god knows hot toys could make a bad *** figure for each of them.

I would reeeeeeeeeeeally like to see them make that Keaton Batman because I think it must be one of the hardest to do. Just because of the thickness of the rubber from the cape and cowl...
How closely the Studio Sovereign Keaton Batman is, it still kinda looks like a holloween costume and not accurate, because of the rubber.
I think it is not easy to makes it, thick rubber and still make it look like it could flow easy. The cape of the Keaton Batman is made of the same heavy material as the rest of the suit (by the looks of it in de movie, rubber) and is not like the Bale batman, wit his lightweight memory-cloth, that allows scale figures to ware just a simple cloth

[villainsfan42]

I would have to go for Keaton Batman.

Gosh, I really hope HT would do villians from the early Batman movies.

me too.

joker, penguin, catwoman, riddler, two-face, freeze, ivy, and bane.

which keaton batman would it be, the original or the batman returns one?
why not a forever batman (one regular and one sonar), and a forever robin and a b&r batman, robin, and batgirl?

[Deak Starkiller]

Supes for me.

[Snake Eater]

Although I am definitely more of a Batman fan, has to be Reeve 100%. ALthough I of course would not be against HT making both.......please. :D

[915stag51]

I say Keaton Bats, BTW does anyone know where I can buy one?

[Sined]

Custom Workz is a kind a god of Keaton-Bats.
PM him - he will help you.

[vodoun]

Although I am definitely more of a Batman fan, has to be Reeve 100%. ALthough I of course would not be against HT making both.......please. :D

Quite agree.

The films were legendary back then. The music always gave me goosebumps with excitement.

So uplifting.

I've always loved that pose.
http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/superman__the_movie/christopher_reeve/supermanstand.jpg
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/7276/supermanreevequote2fl7.png

[915stag51]

Custom Workz is a kind a god of Keaton-Bats.
PM him - he will help you.

Cool man, I will PM him right now, Thanks man...:chew

[Snake Eater]

The music always gave me goosebumps with excitement.

So uplifting. Same here. Still does, when you here those first few notes.

Dum de dum......................dum de dum...

Then POW, the score kicks in and it is still amazing. Just evokes Superman.

[Sined]

Cool man, I will PM him right now, Thanks man...:chew
You're welcome bro!
He have thread with some of his pieces (http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41525) in customs section, there is a lot of interesting things there if you like Bats & all this kind of things, have a look :chew

[Nocturne]

Now those shots of Reeve would make great inspirational posters, much better than those of a picture on a black background.

[8th wonder]

Keaton Batman (returns version)

[zeelhar]

has anyone contacted them about making these figs

[Cocoboloboy]

has anyone contacted them about making these figs

I sent them an email about a Keaton Bats a while ago.

[martin-el]

And there's a campaign already mounted for the Reeve Superman here;

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30842&highlight=reeve+superman

[The Tuggernaut]

That's easy... Keaton Batman.

[Snake Eater]

That's easy... Reeve Superman.

Fixed it for you. :D

[The Tuggernaut]

Fixed it for you. :D

:horror :horror :horror\

:thwak

[DiFabio]

1989 Keaton Batman without a doubt. I love the Christopher Reeve Superman character and the first two films, but it's just some guy in blue and red tights. Doesn't really have as much going for it as Batman would.

I'd love to see Hot Toys take a shot at both of em, but if I have to choose one it would be Batman in all of his 1989 body armor glory. There is just something iconic about it.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/Batman_1989.jpg

[lforigno]

I would love to see both but what I would love to see even more is a premium format figure if sideshow could ever get the liscence's

[OSCORP]

The poll speaks for itself, do it up HT!!

[buzzybean]

There was only one good film for each guy; Superman 2 and Batman 1 so I say it's a tie!

BB

[Morbach]

had to vote for superman. After seeing dk Keaton's batman is nothing to me and I sure as hell would'nt pay over 100 bucks for a figure of him.

[imranbecks]

Definitely a Christopher Reeve Superman from Hot Toys would be fantastic! Maybe a Keaton Batman sometime after the Reeve coz there's just too many Batman releases from them lately.. More Superman stuff!!! If more fans voice out to Hot Toys regarding a Reeve figure, I'm sure it will be done sooner or later..

[Natrix]

I would rather have a Reeves Superman by HT as there are no good custom options available unlike the Keaton Batman's.

[Hydeous]

I'd wanted to choose neither, but if I had to, itd be Keaton's Batman.

Because Reeves' superman would have used a spandex like material for the suit as opposed to Keaton's rubber suit.

[70thSith]

I hope HT will see this thread and decide to do both figures, even if my wallet will allow me to buy only one. :monkey2 Can we start a petition or something that we can send to HT? :idea :idea

[SnakeDoctor]

Reeve's Superman -- and it isn't even close. Keaton's Batman was good, but hardly iconic ...

SnakeDoc

[D'oh!]

Supes!

With the Reeve films, they weren't afraid to retain the classic comic look for the costume. As much as I love the Bats films, the black costume is pretty boring (I do prefer the longer ears on Keaton over Bale, though).

Also, you just know HT will nail the sculpt; on Batman you only see the lower half of the face so what's the point of spending more?

[galactiboy]

Superman for me... but only because I'm already satisfied with my Keaton Batman from Sovereign.

[amarcord]

Sure Dark Batman is cool, but I have gotten a Batman overdose with all the latest releases :-)
It is Batman here, Batman there, Batman everywhere :-)

I voted for a Reeve Superman, that would be the only S-Man for me and it would bring some colour to the shelve.

[Riko]

Also, you just know HT will nail the sculpt; on Batman you only see the lower half of the face so what's the point of spending more?

euhm, because the costume is like much more of a challenge to make than the superman costume?

[Mr ?]

If you're in your 30's or 40's, then Chris Reeve IS Superman.

Always will be.

[JBElliott]

How about a George Reeves Superman and an Adam West Batman?

[Snake Eater]

If you're in your 30's or 40's, then Chris Reeve IS Superman.

Always will be.

I'm in my early 20's and Reeve still IS Superman.

[martin-el]

So...Shall we submit our findings to HT?

[D'oh!]

How about a George Reeves Superman and an Adam West Batman?

I wish Sideshow would pick up the TV Batman license (if nothing else to keep costs down). I'd love a Geo. Reeves Supes as well!

[Buttmunch]

I wish Sideshow would pick up the TV Batman license (if nothing else to keep costs down). I'd love a Geo. Reeves Supes as well!

The Adam West one? Good luck. Everyone has been wanting to make stuff from it but there are MAJOR issues. Apparently Fox owns the TV show and Warner owns the characters. So unless they agree upon something (unlikely because of the new Watchmen problem) NOTHING can be done with the show.

[D'oh!]

Yeah, I know. It's the same reason a DVD release of the series won't happen anytime soon. I can dream, though.

[Ryu]

Voted for Keaton Batman. I wouldn't be able to afford either though (college boy) so maybe I should've voted Reeves because if one does happen, I would prefer it to be the one I like least so I don't feel as bad about not being able to afford it. :D

[Riko]

So...Shall we submit our findings to HT?

yep, for both!

[70thSith]

How about an HT Halle Berry Catwoman? :naughty

[Riko]

serious now, did anybody in the past already mailed or phoned or asked Hot Toys in Hong Kong if they would do a Keaton Batman and maybe the Burton Batmobile ?

is this possible? do they have to have permition first to make it from WB or DC or what...?

[Cocoboloboy]

I emailed them about a Keaton Batman a year or so ago. I can't remember what they said but it's about time to bug them about it again.

[Riko]

I emailed them about a Keaton Batman a year or so ago. I can't remember what they said but it's about time to bug them about it again.

I also mail them, and I will not stop mailing until they answer me this time. (I mailed theam once about a Cain robocop, but they just ignore you :rolleyes:)

this time it's for real :monkey5

and since you do not remember, it couldn't have been very good news...? :)

[PJ Only]

keaton batman.

[C-Phan]

Keaton, much harder to custom a Batman than Reeve Superman.

[TDK2301]

Reeve Superman:emperor

[Bum]

Reeve Superman.

I've seen more Custom Keatons than Custom Reeves, but that's just me.

[a-dev]

My main interest in the Reeve Supes is a good headsculpt of the man. I think his outfit is a bit on the crappy side by todays standards. Although naturally I want them to be accurate and I would be thrilled to have this in 1/6th form.

The most outdated thing about the Keaton Batsuit is the yellow target on his chest and the yellow belt but I still think both his 89' and Returns suits look cool. And despite the more fashionable Nolan films theres no denying how iconic the Burton movies are. They are no less deserving of Hot toys treatment than any other old license such as Aliens and Predator. Yes, of course, the Reeve Superman is also iconic - just a more visually dated iconic. But heck I want them both, I would buy both for sure.

[creecher]

The Adam West one? Good luck. Everyone has been wanting to make stuff from it but there are MAJOR issues. Apparently Fox owns the TV show and Warner owns the characters. So unless they agree upon something (unlikely because of the new Watchmen problem) NOTHING can be done with the show.
That's a real shame, because you'd reckon, not having the licence wouldn't make a difference, seeing as how they are unrecogiseable with theose masks on. :lol Maybe, with the economic downturn, some of these feuding companies will get over their differences to make some bucks.

Why is it that there are such a lack of customs of the Reeve Superman as compared to the Keaton Batman? Demand may outstrip supply but demand is usually an avenue for exploitation.

[Voix]

Reeve Superman, no doubt. I'd probably be interested in Keaton Batman too though.