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Viking28
10-02-2005, 05:10 PM
Ok BE WARNED THIS THREAD CONTAINS SPOILERS IF YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW WHAT
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Viking28
10-02-2005, 05:10 PM
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Viking28
10-02-2005, 05:11 PM
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Why did Wash have to die!!!!!

BDboystoys
10-02-2005, 05:15 PM
ah yes, Joss did it because he wanted the audience to get the feeling that no one was safe, that it ment anyone coould die. He told us in the Q&A in Sydney that he wanted it to be realistic and it would been completely fake if everyone came out alive and well, there had to be loss and Wash was the one to go as he is the most unexpected to go. he not a fighter or warrior so you didnt expect that to happen.
He mentioned it being like the Wild Bunch?
except it was all sed MUCH better than how i sed it

BDboystoys
10-02-2005, 05:17 PM
200 post! anyway i think(although it was heartbreaking) i think it help the pace andgot you into FIGHT mode as well as being emotional.

And the fight scene with river at the end was NO DOUBT the coolest fight eva!!!!

"My Turn"

Viking28
10-02-2005, 05:19 PM
That would of been awesome to see it with the man. It just shocked me when it happened to Wash that and the Shepered, loved seeing River in action. And the hook through Jayne's leg was awesome! ahahahahahha
Sorry my wife hasnt seen it yet so nobody to talk to about it.

BDboystoys
10-02-2005, 05:24 PM
no i love talking bout it! its exciting to see what other ppl thort of stuff. Ye and the Q&A was the best night of my life seriously. i mean MEETING YOUR IDOL! hes so smart to, he had something funny to say at EVERYTHING. OOOO and he signed my Buffy "origins" comic! and my serenity poster thing that i got while i was there.

i felt sorry for him though, by the end of the night he was SOO tired, like DEAD. he was jetlagged and hadnt slept yet and it was like 12, but WOW it was an amazing night. AND i got to see it 2 weeks b4 all of you! HA HA!

Darklord Dave
10-02-2005, 07:27 PM
Best image - River with the sword and the hunga-munga, backlit with the blood dripping off the weapons.

And I can see why Joss had to kill some of them, 9 characters is okay for a TV series, but no way you can do justice to them all in a feature. So the sequels will have fewer characters to deal with.

And River is the new pilot- how cool is that?

So who dies in the sequel? Kaylee or Simon I think...

BDboystoys
10-02-2005, 07:38 PM
NO! NOT KAYLEE!!! i dont want any1 2! but if Joss decides some1 must go, i'll trust him...NOT TO KILL KAYLEE!! lol
shes to cute to die!

Dusty
10-02-2005, 11:33 PM
Maybe Jayne? Although I'd hate to see him go, I could see that happening. Or even Inara. I just hope that a sequel will delve into Book's past and also Inara's... remember from the episode "Out of Gas" when Mal mentions that Inara must be running from something since she was going to tag along with a rag tag crew like theirs? And she's silent for a second... something is up there.

One of my favorite scenes is the "spinning scene" on Miranda when River is freaking and Jayne starts speaking and says "she's right, everyone's dead... dead for no reason" and the spin suddenly stops when he says that, focused on Wash. Dead for no reason. Foreshadowing rocks!

Dave, I also really really like that blood dripping scene. I think the cinematography was superb. I like how they kept some of the crazy shots and zooms and light flares. Makes it more like your actually there with them, experiencing everything.

Wash's death scene was amazing. Each time I've seen it, it keeps it's intensity, even more so now that I know it's coming. I love the audience response every time! Laughter and relief, then audible shock in the same breath. I've never heard that in a theater before. I love how everyone claps every time too... even newbies! :joy

Seaward
10-03-2005, 08:21 AM
I read an article in which Alan Tudyk explains that he brought up the idea to Joss that Wash should be the one to die. It really was most unexpected, and pretty heartbreaking as well. Alan said that it would be very emotional for the audience, no one would see it coming, and it would raise the stakes quite a bit. I highly recommend the "Finding Serenity" book edited by Jayne Espenson, as it has a lot of interesting essays one Firefly, one about the marriage of Wash and Zoe, in particular, that is really sad in light of the film. I thought it was especially poignant that wash did die on the ground. He was a remarkable pilot and untouchable in the air, but once he was grounded, he died. I have actually really bummed out about Wash since the movie, and am not sure how rewatching firefly will be knowing his fate.


"I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar"

Viking28
10-03-2005, 09:50 AM
I would really hate to see Jayne go, he brings a lot to the crew.

I could see Inara going though, but actually I would really hate to see anybody die now from the crew!

Protozaius
10-03-2005, 11:53 AM
If there are any more "Serenity" films, I don't think that they will go the "who will die next" approach. It would become some sort of gimmick for the series and THAT would be a mistake.

The story in this particular case warranted an emotional price to be paid... and Wash and Book paid it dearly.

Darklord Dave
10-03-2005, 12:55 PM
I fully expect everyone to die until it's just Zoey and Mal alone after a huge battle.

Or maybe River, as the sole survivor, driven mad again by the fact that everyone is dead because of her...


What? too dark?

customizerwannabe
10-03-2005, 01:26 PM
My guess is that if there is another movie and that's a pretty big "if" as of today and gross revenues, it would be a prequel and you'd see all your favorites back again. If it is a kill fest with one character biting the big one each movie, then I'd love to see Jayne get splattered next!

Viking28
10-03-2005, 02:17 PM
No way Jayne rocks!! In EW Nathin says in the end of it all he wants to see Mal die because he doesnt want anybody else to play him (like they do with James Bond)

Darklord Dave
10-03-2005, 04:14 PM
One thing about Joss, he never looks back. I can't see them doing a prequel. They've set up for the fall of the Alliance and I'm sure the next 2 films will be how the Serenity crew are a part of making that happen.

customizerwannabe
10-03-2005, 04:36 PM
That would be cool. I just hope it happens.

gooball
10-03-2005, 06:13 PM
Personally, I hope we don't see the fall of the Alliance. As big and bad as they are, it would be cool if Joss was realistic and said 'realistically, you can't normally overthrow regimes like this'. Star Wars has been there and done that, anyway.

If anything, people on the border planets would grow more hateful of the Alliance, but most of those on the central planets are living a pretty cushy life.

Darklord Dave
10-03-2005, 07:18 PM
I agree that the Firefly universe is more realistic than Buffy's apocalypse of the week. But we just saw a major blow to the Alliance and one would think that even the cushy inner planet dwellers would object to being drugged into docility and finding out the government created the Reavers. There was a war once before, who's to say it can't happen again? Each sequel needs to be bigger than the previous one.

Viking28
10-04-2005, 10:13 AM
I just picked up the "Official Movie Magazine" for Serenity defintely worth the purchase.

Dusty
10-04-2005, 04:50 PM
I just picked up the "Official Movie Magazine" for Serenity defintely worth the purchase.

Where did you pick it up? Is it in Barnes and Noble or places like that? I found a link online, but I'd like to flip through it before purchasing...

I also need to get the soundtrack, although I heard the acoustic version of the Firefly theme song that plays at the end of the credits is not included on the sountrack CD. Bummer...

lcummins
10-04-2005, 08:50 PM
Best image - River with the sword and the hunga-munga, backlit with the blood dripping off the weapons.


Dave, I also really really like that blood dripping scene. I think the cinematography was superb.


That was my favorite scene also! That would absolutely rock as a 1/4 scale figure!!!! As Picard would say, "Make it so!" :joy

Firefly Flanatic
10-04-2005, 08:59 PM
Have to agree that was my favorite scene as well - I was just awestruck by how great it looked and have to say I was thinking to myself that she'd kick Buffy's ass!

Polystoner
10-08-2005, 08:50 AM
As a newbie to the whole Serenity universe, I was a little disappointed in the Reavers (sp?). I would have liked to know a little more about their society/culture (if you can call it that). I mean they seem to exist in social groups so there must be something.

Anyway, is that background covered in the earlier TV series?

But anyway, a rockin' good movie. Glad I saw it in the theater.

Darklord Dave
10-08-2005, 03:07 PM
We learned more about the Reavers in the movie than we ever did in the series. I had read that they were designed to be the "Indians" from the ancient Western films - feared by all, inhuman savages that would make good villains for our cowboys.

BDboystoys
10-08-2005, 05:27 PM
I agree. BEST scene with river. i felt giddy watching it, its def gotta be oneof the BEST fight and coriography(cant spell it!)

O and when I was in the movie it struck me that if sideshow makes river they HAVE to make her from in the bar, when she first gets triggered. Shes wearing a cool jacket thing. to cover the articulation! you hear me Sideshow!

Polystoner
10-08-2005, 05:36 PM
We learned more about the Reavers in the movie than we ever did in the series. I had read that they were designed to be the "Indians" from the ancient Western films - feared by all, inhuman savages that would make good villains for our cowboys.

I guess so, the whole movie was about the origins of the Reavers. They did seem monolithic, ike the early ST borg characterizations.

I liked the humor of the movie a lot. Mal seemed at times very vulnerable and human, unlike many representations we see of grizzled captains.