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pixletwin
12-09-2008, 03:21 PM
Here is my recipe which I posted in the other thread. Dave, can we merge (or just copy) the conversation that was going on there to be here?



Here is the break down of how I am using Frodo and Sam for Merry and Pippin


http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/gallery/2002/10/29/merryandpippin3.jpg
http://img-nex.theonering.net/images/scrapbook/1375.jpg

Merry

1. Sam's white shirt
2. Frodo's Vest (dyed yellow)
3. Frodo's jacket (dyed forest green)
4. Sam's Pants (dyed dark brown)
5. Frodo's weathertop sword and scabbard
6. Frodo's cloak (dyed grey)
7. Frodo's elven cloak.

Pippin

1. Frodo's shirt (sam's is prolly closer to accuracy but with the scarf it shouldn't matter)
2. Frodo's jacket (dyed light dark blue-green and altered to be shorter)
3. Frodo's pants (dyed dark green)
4. Sam's sword and scabbard from weather top.
5. Sam's cloak (dyed Auburn or charcoal? Its hard to tell from pics which color it was)
6. Sam's elven cloak.

Really it all comes down to the scarf. How to do that is the hardest part (seriously) about this whole custom job.

pixletwin
12-09-2008, 03:22 PM
An image of Pippin's shirt from Entropy Chicken

http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Hobbit/Pippin/PipDtl1174_CatNM.jpg

FlyAndFight
12-10-2008, 04:10 PM
Excellent reference pics. I have a few more saved in my computer at home. I'll see if they'll be as helpful and post them as well.

superdoug
12-10-2008, 06:02 PM
excellent thread! i have two of the hobbits already so when i get the heads i'll just have to head over to a dye totorial and figure out how to do it.

FlyAndFight
12-10-2008, 08:41 PM
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7573/merryandpippincalnb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Here's one with Frodo so that one can get a comparison between the colors of the fabrics:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6941/fotr0489ny2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wor-Gar
12-10-2008, 09:03 PM
It looks like Pippin is wearing a vest there too. :slap

Like a white shirt peeking out from under some kind of thermal-type vest.

Darklord Dave
12-10-2008, 09:14 PM
It looks like Pippin is wearing a vest there too. :slap

Like a white shirt peeking out from under some kind of thermal-type vest.

Nope, the embroidery on the shirt just makes it look that way in that particular picture.

The Ween
12-10-2008, 09:49 PM
Pip's scarf is gonna be a hard one to copy. I once knitted something small using cake testers but that pattern would be almost impossible. If someone can figure me out how wide and long the scarf should be, I would appreciate it. I'll try to figure out something. I have an extra long Christmas break this year, so I'll play around with it a bit.

As for Pip's shirt. I'm great at embroidery, but....eek!

Wor-Gar
12-10-2008, 11:13 PM
Lest we not forget Pippin's suspenders too...

http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/lotr_fellowship/22.jpg

http://www.cellardoor.the-green-door.net/images/Merry&Pippin.jpg

Darklord Dave
12-11-2008, 12:13 AM
I'm thinking of inkjet printer iron-ons for Pippin's embroidered shirt.

Wor-Gar
12-11-2008, 12:48 AM
I'm thinking of inkjet printer iron-ons for Pippin's embroidered shirt.

If that works for Pippin's shirt, maybe it will work for Merry's vest.


I'm hunting for a jacket that might work for Pippin, but so far nada. It's only a matter of time though.

DarkArtist81
12-11-2008, 01:29 AM
Clothes are going to be hard... And as for the suspenders, they ALL had them.. But for some reason Sideshow didn't include them on Sam and Frodo. I noticed when I was doing research for my Crack of Doom versions. :banghead

Merry and Pippin are going to be HARD to get outfitted in a manner that is accurate.

The Ween
12-11-2008, 07:27 AM
I'm thinking of inkjet printer iron-ons for Pippin's embroidered shirt.

The pattern is so small. Still gonna be hard. And if they're going to be ironed on an already existing shirt, it's going to be even harder!

superdoug
12-11-2008, 07:48 AM
i don't think i've touched an iron since i grabed one by the base not realizing it was on (if somebody ever asks for an iron i will no longer reach behind me without looking and grab it for them)




funny thing is that was to try an iron on thing as well.

pixletwin
12-11-2008, 08:29 AM
I would like to see how this iron on thing works. Anyone got any pic/examples to share?

ProgMatinee
12-11-2008, 10:34 AM
http://www.cellardoor.the-green-door.net/images/Merry&Pippin.jpg

Is the pattern only on the front of Pips shirt or on the sleeves and back as well?

I might cop out on the intricate detail of the pattern and make it simply faintly striped in the proper colors. The pattern is so fine that in 1/6 scale it may just blur together as stripes anyway.

ProgMatinee
12-11-2008, 10:39 AM
Question: Since this is a private forumn, anyone mind if we break out into VERY VERY specific threads for easy reference. For instance: A thread dedicated to Pip's scarf and another for his shirt, etc?

Anyway, here is a link to something I googled regarding a pattern for Pips scarf. http://knitterstalk.com/showthread.php?tid=29

pixletwin
12-11-2008, 11:02 AM
I would like the threads to be that specialized, personally.

Go for it eric.

Darklord Dave
12-11-2008, 11:03 AM
Specific threads would be good I think.

As for the iron-on transfers - I had some great success with making military patches, although I printed on an inkjet cloth paper rather than printing it to be ironed onto another garment. But tiny details are easy to capture if you have the right art.

King Darkness
12-11-2008, 03:16 PM
So for the most part, will one Frodo and one Sam be sufficient to bash Merry and Pip? As far a clothing goes?

pixletwin
12-11-2008, 03:19 PM
For the most part. But I bought an extra Frodo jacket that I can alter to become Pippins jacket.

King Darkness
12-11-2008, 05:09 PM
Had a $100 gift card and just got both Hobbit for $50 shipped :rock

I am ready :rock

superdoug
12-11-2008, 06:31 PM
awesome! great grab

Entropy
12-11-2008, 07:14 PM
I'm interested to see how dying the jacket, vest and cloak works out, darkening the pants should be no prob, but I have my doubts that it will turn out looking accurate.

Using Frodo and Sam's shirts should be fine and a pair of pants for Merry, but Pippin wears corduroy pants, so I'm trying to source some small gauge light weight fabric that might work.

Printing the Pippin design onto Frodo's shirt might not work, however. My first thought is to use an ink jet printer to print the design, but aligning an already assembled shirt that small properly doesn't seem likely. :confused: May have to be disassembled or made from scratch even to get the design printed on correctly.

I've talked to someone with a programmable embroidery machine about stitching a design for Merry's vest. I'm not sure if that will replicate the quilted vest adequately, but will be better than a 1 dimensional printed on design. I wonder how SS would've done it - maybe like the design on the GTW PF vest?

yodasan
12-11-2008, 10:47 PM
Had a $100 gift card and just got both Hobbit for $50 shipped :rock

I am ready :rock

I just went to buy a Frodo and both the regular and the exclusive are showing wait list - ?

King Darkness
12-11-2008, 10:54 PM
I just went to buy a Frodo and both the regular and the exclusive are showing wait list - ?


I must have gotten the last Frodo, but Sam is still available.

Entropy
12-11-2008, 10:58 PM
I must have gotten the last Frodo, but Sam is still available.

:rock :frodo

Darklord Dave
12-11-2008, 11:14 PM
I actually had to get on the waitlist for the regular because I'd already bought my 2 of the exclusive.

I'm sending Sam and Frodo to the sculptors so they can match the body proportions, etc.

yodasan
12-11-2008, 11:15 PM
I'm just surprised - I thought everyone said the SS LOTR 1/6 don't sell - ?

Entropy
12-11-2008, 11:17 PM
I actually had to get on the waitlist for the regular because I'd already bought my 2 of the exclusive.

I'm sending Sam and Frodo to the sculptors so they can match the body proportions, etc.

Awesome! I was wondering if they had the heads to match the size.

It'd be great if they could somehow incorporate the machined out neck/jaw ball joint. I was thinking about sculpting over the Frodo face at one point just to retain the ball joint in the casts rather than having to machine it out after the fact.

King Darkness
12-11-2008, 11:18 PM
I'm sending Sam and Frodo to the sculptors so they can match the body proportions, etc.

:rock :rock :rock

icruise
12-11-2008, 11:55 PM
All this talk of the hobbits selling out pushed me to order another Frodo, and I just got my other Sam yesterday (now I have three of each if you count the body-only ones I bought from Toy Anxiety). I got Frodo from Dark Shadow, who actually had him on clearance for $40. (I got the last one.) So I'm officially ready for Merry and Pippin now. :chew

pixletwin
12-11-2008, 11:56 PM
Mine Sam and Frodo shipped today. I can't wait to do a quick mock up of the clothing combinations.

Wor-Gar
12-12-2008, 12:24 AM
I just went to buy a Frodo and both the regular and the exclusive are showing wait list - ?

Oh man, now they're gonna sell out. :slap

icruise
12-12-2008, 12:25 AM
It's Gimli all over again. Get your hobbits now folks!

ProgMatinee
12-12-2008, 05:17 AM
You gotta think that regular editions will be available for cheap around the net?

The Ween
12-12-2008, 07:10 AM
Sam is still there, and when I get off from work I'll have to order me one. I can't do it at work because I'm blocked from ordering things. :(

pixletwin
12-12-2008, 08:24 AM
I am thinking I will do a minor change to the green frodo cloak. It seems the strap on it, unlike frodo's, has two connecting points at the neck, rather than the one button strap. A detail I hadn't noticed.

FlyAndFight
12-12-2008, 03:11 PM
I need to pick up an extra pair of hobbits as well.

lerath666
12-13-2008, 07:54 AM
Back on the topic of clothing, do you think it will be easier to modify the existing hobbit clothing, or simply have them custom fabricated? please note,I said easier, not cheaper.

pixletwin
12-13-2008, 08:53 AM
I'm not sure. Obviously it would be easier to just die the existing clothes than fabricate clothing from scratch, but that depends on whether the dying process is successful. I'll let you know how it goes or thenam will since he already bought his dye and I think he was going to begin today.

lerath666
12-13-2008, 09:23 AM
kay. i've got a lead on a extra hobbit coat, just want to be sure before i snag one is all.

Entropy
12-13-2008, 10:10 AM
Back on the topic of clothing, do you think it will be easier to modify the existing hobbit clothing, or simply have them custom fabricated? please note,I said easier, not cheaper.

It will def be easier to dye pre-exisiting clothing, but I have doubts about how well it will turn out. Hope it's awesome.

Custom clothing, actually, will be easier, assuming you're doing the buying not the making.

pixletwin
12-13-2008, 08:26 PM
Here is a good pic of the clothing on Merry:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a384/Ray_Chie_Ul/Merry_pipe.jpg

Blu Falcon
12-13-2008, 11:45 PM
It's Gimli all over again. Get your hobbits now folks!

If we keep this project to ourselves for now it won't be. I recommend we don't talk much of it in the general forum until all of us can get our extra pair of hobbits. Once the first custom Merry/Pippin makes an appearance on the forum THEN it will be "Gimli Fever" all over again. Let's try to keep the cost down for now. ;)

Darklord Dave
12-14-2008, 01:15 PM
Back on the topic of clothing, do you think it will be easier to modify the existing hobbit clothing, or simply have them custom fabricated? please note,I said easier, not cheaper.

Depends on the item. I'm definitely using the pants and shirts - there's virtually no difference, the pants colors may need adjusting is all. The coats and cloaks are another matter.

The Ween
12-14-2008, 04:48 PM
I've got some bids in for doll clothing patterns. They're inexpensive and I might be able to come up with something.

ProgMatinee
12-15-2008, 07:31 AM
Sam's vest would work as a pattern for Merry, though I don't think it will dye well into the yellow. Perhaps someone can reverse engineer the vest and remake it in yellow?

pixletwin
12-15-2008, 09:31 AM
If my dye project this week isn't successful my mother-in-law will be looking at Frodo's vest and making one for me. I'll let you all know the results.

pixletwin
12-15-2008, 04:13 PM
Here is my new updated recipe. I changed Merry's pants from Sam's to Frodo's since the dye would be easier to take from Sams Khakis to Dark Green and Frodo's Brown pants are the same color as Merry's (if a darker shade of brown):

[a] SSC Frodo [b]SSC Samwise [c1, c2]SSC Frodo Jacket [d]SSC Samwise

Merry

1. Sam’s Shirt [b]
2. Frodo's Pants [b]
3. Frodo’s Vest (Brown dyed Golden Yellow+) [a]
4. Frodo’s Jacket (Brown dyed Dark Green* and altered slimmer and longer lapels) [a]
5. Frodo’s Cloak (Dark Green dyed Pearl Grey+ and altered) [a]
6. Frodo’s sword and scabbard from Weathertop [a]
7. Hobbit Body [b]
8. Meriadoc Brandybuck Portrait

Pippin

1. Sam’s Shirt (with embroidery printed on)[d]
2. Sam’s Pants (Khaki dyed Dark Green)[a]
3. Frodo’s Jacket (Brown dyed Teal and altered)[c1]
4. Sam’s Cloak (Khaki dyed Rust) [b]
5. Sam’s sword and scabbard from Weathertop [b]
6. Hobbit Body [a]
7. Peregrin Took Portrait
8. Scarf

ProgMatinee
12-15-2008, 04:23 PM
How much closer is Frodo's vest to Merry's than Sam's? Grey would be easier to go to yellow than brown.

pixletwin
12-15-2008, 04:26 PM
It would be easier you are right. I'll try both tonight and post pics of the results and let you guys be the judge.

ProgMatinee
12-15-2008, 04:28 PM
Sometimes brown fades to yellow in bleach...

I appreciate the sacrifice.

I have a hunch we may want to do Merry's vest from original material.

pixletwin
12-15-2008, 04:30 PM
Me too. But might as well give it a try since its just extra stuff. My only reservation with Sam's vest is the weave doesn't look as posh as Frodo's vest and for Merry it should look posh since he comes from the Shire's oldest family.

pixletwin
12-16-2008, 11:41 AM
Posted this in the dye thread but I figured I would post it here too.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP23081.JPG

Blu Falcon
12-16-2008, 12:23 PM
:clap :clap :clap

Looks like we have a winner.

FlyAndFight
12-16-2008, 12:50 PM
Is that Frodo's or Sam's vest?

pixletwin
12-16-2008, 01:00 PM
Frodo's vest. Color removed and then bleached.

ProgMatinee
12-16-2008, 01:00 PM
Frodo's vest. Color removed and then bleached.

Do you think the "removal" had much play or would we get about the same with just the bleach?

pixletwin
12-16-2008, 01:12 PM
I am not sure I would have ended up with the yellow I did honestly. After the color removal the vest was a pea green color and the bleach turned it yellow. Whereas I am pretty sure that if I had only gone with the bleach it may turned it orange. Not to mention that it would have taken longer which may have harmed the material. As it is the fabric feels just the same. No thinning at all.

ProgMatinee
12-16-2008, 01:15 PM
Awesomeness. You should charge people to do it for them.

pixletwin
12-16-2008, 01:24 PM
:lol PM me.

FlyAndFight
12-16-2008, 03:49 PM
Frodo's vest. Color removed and then bleached.

Talk about luck. You got a great Yellow base color out of that recipe. Now all it needs is some golden yellow dye to bring it to full yellow and you should be good to go.

pixletwin
12-16-2008, 04:04 PM
Yeah. I think I will dye it yellow anyway. Lasy butthead that I am. :lol

Wor-Gar
12-16-2008, 04:08 PM
Yeah. I think I will dye it yellow anyway. Lasy butthead that I am. :lol

Yep, I think you should, to make it more vibrant. Repeat suggestion from the dye thread actually.

lerath666
12-16-2008, 04:16 PM
I may sned you min pix. I don't trust myself when working with bleach

Entropy
12-16-2008, 04:26 PM
Yeah. I think I will dye it yellow anyway. Lasy butthead that I am. :lol

It looks very good as is, but I'm curious how it'd turn out with a quick dip in the yellow.

pixletwin
12-16-2008, 07:18 PM
On another note my mother-in-law altered the Frodo jacket to be a Merry jacket and I gotta tell you, it looks great. I can't wait to get to the office tomorrow and take some pics for y'all.

I'll also take pics of the dyed yellow vest. :D

Wor-Gar
12-16-2008, 07:31 PM
On another note my mother-in-law altered the Frodo jacket to be a Merry jacket and I gotta tell you, it looks great.


That's cheating! I don't have your mother-in-law!

:D

pixletwin
12-16-2008, 07:36 PM
You can if you want. ;)

pixletwin
12-16-2008, 08:33 PM
Ok the dyeing is finished. It made me a little bit nervous because the "Golden Yellow" was actually very "Orange" in appearance. I stirred it in the simmering dye for about 5 minutes and took it out. It looks like the color may have improved it. Things are always darker when wet so its hard to say. But it is now in the dryer and I will let you all know how it turns out.

Pics tomorrow.

FlyAndFight
12-16-2008, 08:47 PM
Really looking forward to the pics!

Wor-Gar
12-16-2008, 08:52 PM
Looking again at the chart you posted and comparing that to ref of Merry, I think the Golden Yellow will work perfect... it's the same dye I used for my Goldfinger's vest, so I know that color well. Should be fine, Pix.

pixletwin
12-17-2008, 11:14 AM
Here is the finished vest with the newly altered jacket. She still needs to put the buttons back on though but other than that I think its perfect.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP2310.JPG

ProgMatinee
12-17-2008, 11:28 AM
Looking great.

King Darkness
12-17-2008, 11:58 AM
What did she alter?

pixletwin
12-17-2008, 12:01 PM
The lapel. Merry's lapel is much longer than Frodos.

King Darkness
12-17-2008, 12:02 PM
Oh, okay. Duh :o

Looks good Marc, I will have to see if my Mom can do mine.

Entropy
12-17-2008, 01:17 PM
Here is the finished vest with the newly altered jacket. She still needs to put the buttons back on though but other than that I think its perfect.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/IMGP2310.JPG

The vest is def more vibrant, but perhaps a wee bit too much so. Looks awesome, though.

Thanks again for spearheading the dye job. I can't wait to see how the coat comes out. Is that next on the list?

pixletwin
12-17-2008, 01:19 PM
Coat will be dyed tonight.

(remember the vest is a slightly darker hue than what you see in the pics)

Entropy
12-17-2008, 01:53 PM
Looks like using the Sam & Frodo clothes will work just fine. Still wondering if the re-dyed cloaks will work.

ProgMatinee
12-17-2008, 01:59 PM
Most worried about the bright blue coat for pippen.

pixletwin
12-17-2008, 02:00 PM
It should work for the Sam--->Pippin cloak... The Frodo --->Merry is the one that will be challenging. Getting green to an even pearl grey will be a task. Thats going to be my weekend project. :D

pixletwin
12-17-2008, 02:00 PM
Most worried about the bright blue coat for pippen.

Its actually teal or turqiose.

ProgMatinee
12-17-2008, 02:02 PM
Its actually teal or turqiose.


Yeah, thats what I said. :D

pixletwin
12-17-2008, 02:06 PM
he he

Honestly, Pippin coat doesn't worry me much at all. At the very worst I'll have to use a bit of bleach before I apply the Teal dye... We'll see. I am the group dyeing guinea pig after all. :lol

FlyAndFight
12-17-2008, 02:21 PM
The yellow really brings the "Merry" out of the outfit. It's looking great so far. Well done.

Entropy
12-17-2008, 02:23 PM
Pippin's coat looks much closer to a minty green rather than any blue. Turquoise works. And the pants a drab olivey greenish brown.

http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Hobbit/Pippin/PipFull1173_CatNM.jpg

pixletwin
12-17-2008, 02:24 PM
Its teal:

http://www.marathononline.com/images/teal.gif

Entropy
12-17-2008, 02:27 PM
Teal works for me. Turquoise is a bit too minty. :D

pixletwin
12-17-2008, 02:29 PM
Now the real questions is whether I just want dye the jacket outright or lighten it a bit?

Entropy
12-17-2008, 02:39 PM
Now the real questions is whether I just want dye the jacket outright or lighten it a bit?

I think it'll be best to try and remove the color from an item before dyeing like you did with the vest, even if going darker, to get a purer color rather than it mixed. Starting with a blank canvas. But, of course, it's up to you. I suppose there are risks either way.

FlyAndFight
12-17-2008, 03:17 PM
Excellent photo, EC.

I agree with the color removal before dyeing suggestion as well. I think you'll get a more "pure" color this way.

pixletwin
12-23-2008, 04:32 PM
Here is an important detail for Pippins scarf: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2074/2416364549_232535f07b_o.jpg

FlyAndFight
12-23-2008, 05:22 PM
EXCELLENT photo! Thanks, Pix!

The Ween
12-23-2008, 06:55 PM
Here is an important detail for Pippins scarf: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2074/2416364549_232535f07b_o.jpg

Thanks! That will be very useful!

Entropy
12-23-2008, 07:57 PM
What pic is that from? Is it some fan made one? The colors look completely different, esp the fringe, from every other reference photo of the costume I've seen.

pixletwin
12-23-2008, 11:10 PM
It is fan made I believe but its based on the actual stitch pattern used on the prop. The colors are accurate as well.

Entropy
12-23-2008, 11:57 PM
Doesn't look accurate to me at all. :confused: Here's a pic of the screen used one.

http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Hobbit/Pippin/PipScarf1174_CatNM.jpg

pixletwin
12-24-2008, 04:08 AM
Hmmmm... color me cornfuscicated. :lol

pixletwin
01-04-2010, 01:01 PM
OK folks. Be expecting the remaining Hobbit clothes to be dyed and start hitting homes towards mid to late January.

:rock

Wetanut
01-04-2010, 05:30 PM
Thanks! :wave

jason2885
01-04-2010, 08:37 PM
Has anyone figured out a scarf for Pippin and a cloak for Merry

The Ween
01-04-2010, 09:08 PM
Thanks Pixiedoodle!

hee hee.... :lol

The Ween
01-04-2010, 09:09 PM
Has anyone figured out a scarf for Pippin and a cloak for Merry

I have been meaning to do that but haven't been up to it lately.

Can anyone give me an opinion of how long it should be?

superdoug
01-05-2010, 05:56 AM
No clue I'm not really good with clothes and sewing and that kind of knowledge. If you find out how to get one of make one I'm intrested in knowing but alas I'm basically useless in this department.

El Skutto
01-06-2010, 06:44 AM
Has anyone figured out a scarf for Pippin and a cloak for Merry

I figure I'll use the scarf from an extra Van Helsing figure I have for the time being. It's dark grey and doesn't have a pattern or fringe, but it'll do for the short term. Considering they make knitted scarves and sweaters for Barbie in this scale, it shouldn't be too hard finding a suitable replacement. Or better yet, having one made ourselves.

As for the cloak, well, my Merry's going to be wearing his Lothlorien cloak until something better comes along.

The Ween
01-06-2010, 07:20 PM
I figure I'll use the scarf from an extra Van Helsing figure I have for the time being. It's dark grey and doesn't have a pattern or fringe, but it'll do for the short term. Considering they make knitted scarves and sweaters for Barbie in this scale, it shouldn't be too hard finding a suitable replacement. Or better yet, having one made ourselves.

As for the cloak, well, my Merry's going to be wearing his Lothlorien cloak until something better comes along.

If that scarf works okay scale wise for Pippin, can you measure it?

I've tried looking for a Barbie scarf and I don't like the looks of them at all. At least the ones I've found so far.

ProgMatinee
01-07-2010, 06:10 PM
when we first began this project I really got stuck trying to do the fringe, but the actual cutting and sewing of a plain scarf is pretty simple. I can probably offer them. The thing is, what fabric and can we live without the fringe?

pixletwin
01-07-2010, 08:06 PM
thenam sent me some stuff to experiment with for Pippin's scarf and I played around with it today... very promising.. the material he sent is very good in that scale for laying on a body really naturally and doesn't look bulky at all... I try to take some pics tomorrow and post them.

El Skutto
01-08-2010, 05:55 AM
If that scarf works okay scale wise for Pippin, can you measure it?

I took a closer look at the Van Helsing scarf and it won't work for a couple of reasons. First off, it's way too dark. Like, very dark grey bordering on black. And while it does have a nice fringe, the scarf is simply WAY too long. I'd guess 14 inches in length, if not longer.

As for the material to use for the scarf, I always figured the easiest solution would be to get some grey felt material, cut it to the appropriate length, then simply use a sharp point marker to add some dots to mimic the pattern. The fringe could probably be made by using some grey thread, sewn into the end of the scarf and tied off so it doesn't come loose.

Of course, the best solution would be a very fine knitted wool.

FlyAndFight
01-08-2010, 08:11 AM
The problem with using actual materials used in the 1:1 items is that they usually are WAY out of scale, thickness-wise. We need to find a material that is thin and not stiff, but takes folds well and will look natural on a 1/6th scale hobbit.

I believe it's a matter of simulating and not recreating, which is what I follow when building my scale models.

At this scale, the design can be implied, in other words.

El Skutto
01-08-2010, 08:52 AM
Maybe it's just a question of cutting a strip off a grey T-shirt, making the pattern with a marker, and fraying the ends to create the fringe? The thin cotton should fold and drape pretty naturally on a 1:6 scale figure.

pixletwin
01-08-2010, 09:12 AM
Nam's solution works folks. It is so simple and obvious I don't know why noone has thought of it before.

Pics coming soon.

ProgMatinee
01-08-2010, 09:24 AM
sounds good. can't wait to see.

superdoug
01-08-2010, 11:38 AM
Nam's solution works folks. It is so simple and obvious I don't know why noone has thought of it before.

Pics coming soon.

Can't wait and I hope it's easy for us non-skilled in the arts of sewing people.

carbo-fation
01-08-2010, 03:09 PM
Can't wait to see some pics!:D

The Ween
01-08-2010, 06:07 PM
Fringe would be easy for me since I've worked with different threads before. Floss might work. Needlepoint yarns. It would be a bit tedious but doable.

pixletwin
01-11-2010, 08:51 AM
Here we are. I know the hobbits are a bit smaler in scale but I think it could still look really good.. plus my wife is an expert cross stitcher so getting the pattern and fringe put on wouldn't be that hard!

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/100_06881.JPG

King Darkness
01-11-2010, 09:47 AM
I want one!

:)

FlyAndFight
01-11-2010, 10:18 AM
Looks good, Pix.

El Skutto
01-11-2010, 11:59 AM
Yeah, that does look a lot better than the other options we were considering. It actually looks a bit like the laces on my boots.

So, are you planning on producing some of these for purchase, Pix? If so, put me down for one.

pixletwin
01-11-2010, 01:51 PM
Let me see how it works out... If it turns out to look really well and isn't a gigantic pain in the neck I may see if I get it out to those of you who like it.

I'll keep y'all posted. :)

ProgMatinee
01-11-2010, 03:03 PM
looks good. if a finer thread can be used I think it would look more to scale.

jason2885
01-11-2010, 10:40 PM
Pix

if you do any of those to sell let me know I need to have a scarf for Pippin.

El Skutto
01-12-2010, 06:25 AM
Pix

if you do any of those to sell let me know I need to have a scarf for Pippin.

A head wouldn't hurt, either... :D

pixletwin
01-12-2010, 08:08 AM
A head wouldn't hurt, either... :D

That would be Dave's department. But don't worry, it's coming. Patience is what we have had and it is what we will need. I am glad Dave didn't take any $$$ from any of us yet. :lol

superdoug
01-13-2010, 05:54 AM
Pix if you get the scarf worked out I'd love to get one too!



Headless Pippin keeps asking me "when am I going to get a scarf".

jason2885
01-13-2010, 06:06 AM
A head wouldn't hurt, either... :D

If i get a head and no scarf I would be really disappointed in I didnt have a complete Pippin.

El Skutto
01-13-2010, 06:33 AM
If i get a head and no scarf I would be really disappointed in I didnt have a complete Pippin.

I think that, given the choice between a headless bescarved Pippin, and a headed, but unscarved Pippin, the unscarved version would win hands down.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we've pretty much nailed down the whole outfit for these guys, but it'd be nice to hear of some kind of forward movement on the headsculpts. Even a work in progress picture would be welcome at this point.

The Ween
01-13-2010, 07:42 AM
Darn work computer! I can't see it! :(

pixletwin
01-13-2010, 08:26 AM
If i get a head and no scarf I would be really disappointed in I didnt have a complete Pippin.

Stick around and be patient and I promise you that you won't be disappointed. :)

jason2885
01-13-2010, 08:34 AM
Thats okay take your time and Im sure the heads will eventually come.

icruise
01-14-2010, 04:44 PM
Thats okay take your time and Im sure the heads will eventually come.

:naughty :naughty :naughty

carbo-fation
01-14-2010, 07:25 PM
Looks great Marc. Count me in for one as soon as it's ready for pre-order!:D

jaffakitkat
01-15-2010, 11:04 PM
That scarf looks great! Pix, if you do end up making them to sell please count me in. Pippin needs his scarf! :D

thenammagazine
01-16-2010, 01:04 AM
That would be Dave's department. But don't worry, it's coming. Patience is what we have had and it is what we will need. I am glad Dave didn't take any $$$ from any of us yet. :lol

God forbid he did and that GatackFC guy was on board. :horror


Reminds me of that paperboy from Better Off Dead:


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dwing
01-16-2010, 08:31 PM
Nam is back!!!

pixletwin
01-16-2010, 10:49 PM
Nam is back!!!

:rock :rock :rock

FlyAndFight
01-17-2010, 08:15 AM
Nam is back!!!


Where'd he go? :confused:

ProgMatinee
01-17-2010, 12:37 PM
There and back again, a Nam tale.

carbo-fation
01-17-2010, 12:41 PM
:lol
Welcome back Nam!

thenammagazine
01-18-2010, 03:54 PM
Where'd he go? :confused:

Oh, into a 2-week isolation to which I'll be returning shortly for insulting a harassing mod if he doesn't quit deleting my posts based on his continued poor ability to judge the context and content. :lol

FlyAndFight
01-18-2010, 09:06 PM
Oh, into a 2-week isolation to which I'll be returning shortly for insulting a harassing mod if he doesn't quit deleting my posts based on his continued poor ability to judge the context and content. :lol

:horror:lol:lol:naughty:naughty

thenammagazine
02-02-2010, 12:00 AM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/205522085_b65e84b8d0.jpg

El Skutto
02-02-2010, 06:25 AM
OK folks. Be expecting the remaining Hobbit clothes to be dyed and start hitting homes towards mid to late January.

:rock

Hey Pix, just curious if the mail-out has taken place yet? I've got a shirtless and headless hobbit who's getting some weird looks from Frodo and Sam.

pixletwin
02-02-2010, 09:21 AM
Sorry guys. Nothing has gone out yet. I intended to do the dyeing last weekend (it literally takes a whole day to do it right) but I couldn't ever find the time. This Saturday I won't have time (it is my son's birthday) but I should be able to get it done Sunday and mail the out between the 8th and the 10th. I'll post a followup Sunday night and let you all know were it stands.

Wetanut
02-02-2010, 05:33 PM
mercy buckets Pix.

pixletwin
02-07-2010, 09:20 PM
OK guys. I got jackets bleached tonight (its a very stinky process so the wife and kids had to leave the house for the better part of the day). I will get them all dyed tomorrow night (possibly Tuesday night and Wednesday to dry leaving Thursday as the likely shipping day. I will post pics of the entire batch when I finish it.

:)

pixletwin
02-22-2010, 03:03 PM
Sorry folks about the delay. I know you are chomping at the bit to get this. I promise by this time next week they will be out of my hair and on their way to adorn your Hobbits.

The Ween
02-23-2010, 09:16 PM
Sorry folks about the delay. I know you are chomping at the bit to get this. I promise by this time next week they will be out of my hair and on their way to adorn your headless Hobbits.


Fixed!

Thanks buddy! :)

pixletwin
02-23-2010, 10:26 PM
No thank you for all your patience with me. :)

Wetanut
03-26-2010, 04:23 PM
Um.....don't mean to be a nag, but have you sent them out? If so, you might have sent mine to the wrong address since I haven't received.

pixletwin
03-28-2010, 09:53 PM
They hasn't gone out yet. They are all bleached and ready for dying. Dying the jackets is a 36 hour process and I haven't been able to find a window in the weeks big enough to do it with any confidence. But spring break is coming up and the wife is taking my boys on an overnight-er at her friends house. So I am pretty sure I will be able to get them done and mailed out the week of April 5.

Sorry sorry sorry sorry. :o

El Skutto
03-29-2010, 05:21 AM
No worries, man. It's all good. :chew

thenammagazine
03-29-2010, 12:15 PM
What's the rush, you see a post about WIP headsculpts or something? :dunno:lol

pixletwin
04-15-2010, 06:58 AM
Finished.


:D

El Skutto
04-27-2010, 06:28 AM
This coincides well with the news of progress on the headsculpts. Have you had a chance to ship off the clothes yet? With any luck, we might just have our complete Fellowships by Xmas.

pixletwin
04-27-2010, 07:23 AM
Sorry not yet. Prolly won't be shipped until May 5th.