Krycek standard edition figure CANCELLED

[Viking28]

From Alter Ego Newsletter:
Sideshow collectibles has cancelled their upcoming X-Files Alexander Krycek 12" standard edition figure. Therefore, all orders for this items with Alter Ego Comics will be cancelled. :rip

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[XPhile]

Krycek must really be selling poorly for them to cancel the standard edition. This can't be a good sign for the future of The X-Files line. I hope I'm wrong, as I'd love to see it continue.

[NASEDO]

At least he'll be a low edition. But if they cancel the X-files line I'll cancel all my orders and be done with SS for good. If there going to commit to making figures for all these different lines and "quit" in the middle I have no need to collect there products.
I understand that LOTR wasn't "complete" but theres so many different figures, and I'm satisfied with that, But for the other lines where there's about 10 main figures if.. and already for the X-files we got 2 Mulders & Scully's. Buffy got many of the same character. Whats next "Bad Hair day Buffy", I understand the "Main" Characters are more popular but making doubles, I feel hurts the line, I'm done with Buffy for this reason I dont need 5 of the same figure, espeacially when major characters are missing.
It will be very sad if the X-files ends, a slap in the face, at least make Skinner, The Lonegunman, 4 figures, make some effort to complete a line for the collectors. It hurts to have a incomplete collection, it just isn't right. Why collect if the collection isn't complete. And if SS cannot commit to completing a line, then there more worried about making money and not being "true" to its customers.
Heres my solution if the line is going to end.
1. Make Skinner and the Lonegunmen
2. Make the edition super low maybe Hundered but release this until all 100 are sold.
3. Email customers who have bought X-files figures and give them 1st shot.
Dear valued X-files collector we are sorry to announce that the X-files line is ending so we decided to complete the line with these 4 figures you will have 1st shot at ordering them thanks.
4. Charge more for the Figures say $60 or $75.00
5. Everybodys happy, will get complaints for those who just want one to sell on ebay but 2 bad. The line is complete and SS showed Loyalty.
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[Viking28]

Yea I dont think this looks good for the rest of the line. :sick

[Darklord Dave]

You can't really expect a company to "complete" a line if they are guaranteed to lose money doing it. They aren't a charity and if they aren't selling, they aren't selling.

[oxbeard]

I would encourage you to be a little patient as well. Just because they cancelled the regular figure does not mean the end of the line. Remember the current situation with Darla. It may be that they are simply decreasing the edition sizes, and decreasing variants as well in order to make it more cost effective for them to provide a wider variety of figures for the line.

I know a lot of you will think I'm simply shooting in the dark here, but it is possible. But even if not, don't be so critical before you actually know SS's intentions.

[Viking28]

True and all but I dont think it helps the line any that the regular edition is being cancelled. BUT I am glad that we will still be getting him as a Sideshow exclusive.

[screamingmetal]

It doesn't look good. Krycek was a minor character compared to other characters, and many didn't like the way the likeness came out. He wasn't in as much demand. That could be seen as a reason why he isn't selling.
However, The Cigarette Smoking Man was one that was a major character and had no likeness issues, he too is having a hard time selling. There just doesn't seem to be enough demand for X-Files figures.
I'd hate to see the line end before we get Reyes, Skinner, The Lone Gunmen, Deep throat, Flukeman and a Gray Alien. :crying

[Protozaius]

The X-Files line NEEDS :banghead MORE :banghead ALIENS!!! :banghead

[Ironman1188]

I think the photos so far show Krycek looking more like the real life version of him then Brent, Willow, Frank Black or the Kurgan. Granted, Brent and Willow, IMO were much better in hand than the pix, but Brent still looked odd and Willow only moved up to passable. Frank Black was horrid and appeared in far less X-files episodes than Krycek, who, in actuality, was a fairly integral plot piece throughout the series.

[Hardcase01]

Where's Scully and Mulders boss? the baldheaded guy?

[Buttmunch]

Thats Skinner.

I'm surprised of how many of you didn't know this. Brant or Chicky said this was the case over a month ago. It was in the Krycek Black Oil Edition thread in the ask Sideshow fourum. It is very said though :(

[Ironman1188]

Where's Scully and Mulders boss? the baldheaded guy?

That seems to be this lines very own X-File!!

[FrankenFan]

Thats Skinner. I'm surprised of how many of you didn't know this.
Willie the Shake said it best: "Ay, there's the rub."

You can't blame Sideshow for trying!

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[Buttmunch]

I've edited my post to be more clear. I was answering the question and then talking about Krycek. I've known for over a month he was only going to be a Sideshow exclusive.

[Ironman1188]

I'm glad someone posted it here. I hadn't heard that they had cancelled him. I don't read "Ask Sideshow" all that often because, well...they can't really answer much of what's asked. :rolleyes:
I think its a sad cancellation as, in this case, the likeness appears pretty good and there seemed to be some accessories to substantiate the higher pricepoint of late. Surely a better deal on accessories than Caesar. Oh, well. I still say we'll see just how many of the lines continue once the Star Wars train starts rolling.

[Darklord Dave]

Just to be clear - Krycek isn't cancelled, just the non-exclusive, retail version. Perhaps, like the Buffy line, there is enough interest to support ultra-tiny releases like Darla or Krycek.

[Ironman1188]

Just to be clear - Krycek isn't cancelled, just the non-exclusive, retail version.

True, which only assures that the $ goes to Sideshow as other retailers won't be giving customers the "price break" from spending $40+ on a figure.

[NASEDO]

What line line has Sideshow Completed? Like I said before I think the double figures hurt the line. Come on, they did Platoon at 500 edition a figure, lets commit to the X-files like that.

But I've been on this board a long time, and I was there for the Where's Giles for BTVS, is the POTA dead, wheres Faraimir, and what about Hellboy and Van Helsing, and now the X-files.

Would it be right if Peter Jackson only made 2 LOTR movies, and not the 3rd because people didn't go to the movies? At least tell us whats going on with the lines. But I still believe they'll finish the X-files, If not I'm no longer a Sideshow (half line) collector. I won't commit to another line knowing its only going to be half done, and I imagine Highlander is next because the sales dont look to good, but dont worry will have another buffy, and jason 20.
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[Darklord Dave]

Holy Grail is pretty complete - although I'd have liked to see Zoot and the other Knights who say Ni. Maybe the Historian, and 2nd wedding guest on the right...

Come on Sideshow - finish something!

[GuruAskew]

I personally think I'd be satisfied with Skinner, the Lone Gunmen and Reyes (and maybe Mr. X and Jeffrey Spender with interchangable "Breather" head like 006), but I'll support this line as long as it lasts.

[XPhile]

I personally think I'd be satisfied with Skinner, the Lone Gunmen and Reyes (and maybe Mr. X and Jeffrey Spender with interchangable "Breather" head like 006), but I'll support this line as long as it lasts.

I'll also support the line as long as it goes on. I'd like to see all of those characters and more, but I think Skinner is probably the most essential. Hopefully they'll at least make him.

[Buttmunch]

If we get Skinner, the Lone Gunmen, and an Alien I'm fine. I'd rather have Skinner and the Alien though. The Gunmen rock though they are not "a must" before the line dies.

[lcummins]

... they are not in this business just to make their customers happy no matter how much they would like to do that. They have to consider the bottom line to keep the company in business in the first place. Which would you rather have: a completed line of X-Files or POTA and no more Sideshow, or for Sideshow to stay in business and kill the lines that just aren't selling?



For that matter, how often does any collectibles company ever finish something? I've been a collector of various things for about 35 years now, and it is really few and far between on lines that come to completion! They are usually smaller lines though or very, very popular. For example, in everyone's opinion, has Kenner or Hasbro done a complete line of Star Wars figures? I didn't think so... :rolleyes:

[Buttmunch]

With the exception of a few characters like Comander Cody in the RotS line I would say Hasbro has made a pretty complete line. If they made Cody and ended the SW line all together (yeah right) I wouldn't feel there was any gap that needed filling. Would I like more though, yes.

[Ironman1188]

Which would you rather have: a completed line of X-Files or POTA and no more Sideshow

:confused: Is that a trick question? :angelsmil

[Bonehead15]

Is this cancellation really that big of a surprise?? :confused:

I couldn't believe that SS even concidered making a Krycek figure. No offense to any X-Files fans but there just isn't any appeal to this character. Sure X-Files fans would want this figure but nobody else would. There just isn't anything that would make non-X-files want to buy this figure. Let's face it, he's just a plain clothes guy.

With Buffy and some of the other lines, the characters are a little more "unique." For example, somebody who doesn't like buffy might pick up a Spike or Angel figure just because they vampires. I know a few Uni Monsters fans bought Der Kinerstood just because they thought he was a cool monster. Krycek just doesn't have any "cross over appeal."

[Ironman1188]

Is this cancellation really that big of a surprise?? :confused:

I couldn't believe that SS even concidered making a Krycek figure. No offense to any X-Files fans but there just isn't any appeal to this character. Sure X-Files fans would want this figure but nobody else would. There just isn't anything that would make non-X-files want to buy this figure. Let's face it, he's just a plain clothes guy.

With Buffy and some of the other lines, the characters are a little more "unique." For example, somebody who doesn't like buffy might pick up a Spike or Angel figure just because they vampires. I know a few Uni Monsters fans bought Der Kinerstood just because they thought he was a cool monster. Krycek just doesn't have any "cross over appeal."

:google
Sooo, by that reasoning, we don't need Giles or Skinner and should not have gotten Oz, Zander, Duncan, Conner, Frank Black, the Cigarette Smoking Man.....
Afterall, they're just plain clothes guys too. Krycek's involvement in the X-files is at least as important as Skinner [who we should definitely be able to get!!] and more important than most of the aliens/creatures that somepeople have wanted.
And as for no one outside of X-files fans wanting him, well, again, by that reasoning we shouldn't have gotten Mulder or Scully either. Out of all of Sideshow's human sculpts I would think Krycek up at the top with the most "out of genre" use as he looks as if he could play a secret agent, or a spec-ops, or an astronaut...... He surely has more "cross over appeal" than Oz or Zander [can't see either of them as soldiers or astronauts] and Frank Black's head size makes him rather difficult to want to use as anything other than what he is.

[Viking28]

I couldn't believe that SS even concidered making a Krycek figure. No offense to any X-Files fans but there just isn't any appeal to this character.
WOW! :google I totally agree with what you just said Ironman.

[Darklord Dave]

Supposedly he's going to have or was intended to have an action feature where the eyes turned black. Don't know if that's still happening, but a unique feature might have helped sell him to the non-die hard XPhiles.

[Buttmunch]

Chicky or Brant or Dutsy or someone said the eyes feature is still a go last I heard.

[Buttmunch]

I just thought of something. Could the reason we haven't seen big characters like Skinner or Giles made is because they have glasses? I don't think Sideshow has done a figure with normal glasses yet. They've done sunglasses though. I wonder if this is an issue for them or just a coinsidence.

[Darklord Dave]

Engineering problems to stall some things. The glasses on Duncan and Auto Scully work fantastic though. I doubt this is a hold up.

However just seeing how the glasses on DST's Wesley look is enough to make you appreciate how difficult this can be.

[Morris Fletcher]

It doesn't look good. Krycek was a minor character compared to other characters, and many didn't like the way the likeness came out. He wasn't in as much demand. That could be seen as a reason why he isn't selling.
However, The Cigarette Smoking Man was one that was a major character and had no likeness issues, he too is having a hard time selling. There just doesn't seem to be enough demand for X-Files figures.
I'd hate to see the line end before we get Reyes, Skinner, The Lone Gunmen, Deep throat, Flukeman and a Gray Alien. :crying

Good points. As a fan I can't completely step out, but one thing I thought about CSM is that the regular version should have come with a trenchcoat. The tan coat is great, and could have still been the Exclusive, but the standard should have come with like a dark gray trenchcoat.

As pretty much a non-collector of 1/6 scale figures, to me the more clothes the better to disguise the skinny Barbie-looking bodies. Mulder should have come with a trenchcoat too!

Also about CSM is that he doesn't sell on his own. No one wants a CSM figure by himself. They would want him to go along with Mulder and Scully yes, but not by himself. In general, the collector consensus was that Mulder was a very disappointing figure, and Scully was OK to good. Sales were apparently strong enough on Mulder and Scully to warrant second versions, but remember that aside from the laughable Barbie doll versions and the odd McFarlane figures, X-Files fans have had nothing else.

That means that die-hard fans will automatically buy Mulder and Scully just to have them, and won't be as picky as the casual buyer. Well, they will still be picky, but they'll still buy. Casual collectors don't "need" them, so they won't buy unless they're great.

So Krycek has the same CSM problems, and he's even less high-profile than CSM story-wise, and not as iconic to look at. Then you add in the bland sculpt with a very questionable likeness (well, to be fair it could be bad angles/pics), and that's not a good scenario.

I myself am still very much on the fence as to whether I want Krycek or not. I definitely want to support the line to get more figures, but I can't honestly say I'll buy them or not until I see them. I really want a Skinner, but maybe not if he's going to look as "off" as Krycek or as poorly painted as Mulder and Frank Black, see what I mean?

I know we shouldn't be bribed into buying stuff, but like if we saw an awesome Skinner sculpt with the disclaimer of "may not come out unless other stock sells" it may help, LOL.

[Ironman1188]

Ok, ***SIDESHOW TAKE NOTE!!!***
I don't think the sculpt is as far off as others seem to. I know as well as any that the photos can make or break the early desire for a figure, and that one's opinion might change once that figure is in hand, but Krycek looks pretty dead on to me.
What is a deterrent to purchasing some of these figures is the $45 pricepoint. And with the Sideshow exclusive being all thats left for him, well....some of us that may have really wanted him may find him out of range. Granted, Krycek comes with a few more accessories than some others, but its still over $50 a figure when you add in shipping. I, for one, have been waiting for Krycek and Skinner, but was hoping to get them from the secondary sources at a more reasonable price. Having to buy direct requires my tax rebate to come in first. :D
I hope this cancellation does not pave the way for future ones where Sideshow can sell certain figures [without any variations available] solely thru their own site. Unless, of course, they start parting out their figures and allow for us to pick up the random nude figure or accessory. [hint, hint]

[Morris Fletcher]

I disagree in part about the pricepoint.

If we were offered a limited to 500 web exclusive Skinner that was as good as CSM, or at least as good as Doggett even, I'd throw down up to $60 to get him.

But until I see better pictures or hear a review from someone that has him in-hand, I'm not sure I'd pay even $30 for that Krycek.