Kurgan Boom!

[Azog]

Kurgan Preview (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=092305kurgan)

[pitchin]

hmmmmmmmm........never bought any of the Highlander figures but I might be tempted by Kurgan

[TheObsoleteMan]

Likeness doesn't look any better than the severed head that came with Connor, but I'm still ecstatic to see this piece is coming. Hopefully a 1536 Kurgan and Ramirez will follow.

[Sir Tristram]

Oh my god! I cannot properly convey to you how upset I am with this head sculpt!

That better be a poor prototype...that is the absolute WORST likness I have EVER seen on a sideshow 12"er!
What a crying shame! PITY!!!
One of the best Highlander characters created throughout the entire span of the films and series and THIS is the representation we get?
Good God almighty!
Let's hope his Flashback look is not this Bad....this is just BAD!
I don't know who that is, but it sure as HELL is NOT Clancy Brown! :eek: :mad:

[pitchin]

Oh my god! I cannot properly convey to you how upset I am with this head sculpt!

That better be a poor prototype...that is the absolute WORST likness I have EVER seen on a sideshow 12"er!
What a crying shame! PITY!!!
One of the best Highlander characters created throughout the entire span of the films and series and THIS is the representation we get?
Good God almighty!
Let's hope his Flashback look is not this Bad....this is just BAD!
I don't know who that is, but it sure as HELL is NOT Clancy Brown! :eek: :mad:


yeah but it's kurgan

[Hardcase01]

Dear Sideshow people,

Headsculpt sucks....Really bad.
Please fix.

Clay

[Sir Tristram]

yeah but it's kurgan


That's what they're banking on....
"Hey, it's the Kurgan, they'll just eat it and buy no matter how ridiculously poor the head sculpt ended up being."

Disgusting.

I am only being so harsh because I have seen some AMAZINGLY wonderful scuplting out there...from SS and other companies!

What the -head shaving-safety pin fastening to neck-heck is going on over there?
Get your heads on straight and get your stuff together SS...
This is a terrible preview of a cult favorite character. Boo. :mad:

[pitchin]

That's what they're banking on....
"Hey, it's the Kurgan, they'll just eat it and buy no matter how ridiculously poor the head sculpt ended up being."

Disgusting.

I am only being so harsh because I have seen some AMAZINGLY wonderful scuplting out there...from SS and other companies!

What the -head shaving-safety pin fastening to neck-heck is going on over there?
Get your heads on straight and get your stuff together SS...
This is a terrible preview of a cult favorite character. Boo. :mad:

good point..........booooo hisss :D I was just glad they done him but hopefully the words prototype come up shortly

[dr2red]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/dr2red/victor_krooger_pic.jpg
Looks nothing like the proto type. Hope they fix him.

[oxbeard]

I'm not seeing the likeness either. Hopefully it will be better either with newer pics or changes closer to production.

[Buttmunch]

I too minght pick him up, sure the likeness isn't like the one from the pic. I haven't seen any of the films so it does matter much to me, but I hope it is a good sculpt in the end for you that do care. Maybe likeness issues are a problem?

Does he saftey pin his head on after Conner cuts it off? Since I've never seen the films I'm just going off of what you guys are saying and what info sideshow's item descriptions give. I might pick up Conner now if the Kurgan doesn't come with his own severed head too.

[TheObsoleteMan]

Another problem is the facial expresion, it's so bland. I would've preferred a sneer or something a bit more menacing.

[drbrad1975]

ACCKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I agree with everyone else. This is a very very poor likeness. The sad thing is that I will probably get him anyway. However, I think I will wait for a sale or something, unless he comes with some really cool exclusive accessory that I can't wait for. It's sad because I was really looking forward to this figure. I love my Connor and Duncan. The Duncan in my opinion is my favorite SS figure to date outside of Goldfinger Bond.

Brad

[JSA]

Not a perfect likeness, but I'm not up in arms over it - why? Because THAT
isn't the Kurgan that I want. I want the Kurgan from the flashbacks - With
full headdress and preferrably on horseback! If they don't make that one, I'd
be very surprised, and mighty annoyed, as that is the only one I want to buy.

JS

[BDboystoys]

I assume they will if this one sells, to go with the other "origins" figures. But the likeness is off. the outfit looks great from what i can tell!

[MrPointy007]

It's Peter Boyle from Young Frankenstein!

[screamingmetal]

The likeness is off and it should be better, But the paint ops. are also off. There needs to be darker circles under his eyes and a grimier complexion.
I'm buying one but I hope they can improve the sculpt a bit before release.

The clothes pins are decoration. Ramirez slit his throat in a ancient battle, but Kurgan survived because the only way to kill a immortal is to fully decapitate them. Kurgan later added the clothes pins in modern times when he sheaved his head to disguise his identity.

[Bonehead15]

The likeness is off but I'll wait until I see some full figure pics until I pass judgement on the figure. A lot of people were disapointed with Conner at first but the figure came out great in the end.

[Sir Tristram]

It's Peter Boyle from Young Frankenstein!

Wow...You know what...It is....You nailed it! :horror

[Darklord Dave]

There were similar complaints about Connor when he was previewed, but the released figure looks exactly like a clean-shaven Macleod.

And personally I don't see why everyone is complaining about the likeness, it definitely looks like Clancy from the end of the movie, at least to me. I'd prefer the origins version, but it does look like a lot of detail is on this guy. I look forward to seeing more pics.

[Sir Tristram]

That's is one of the major complaints about Connor....I do not recall him ever being clean shaven in the first film!

[Sir Tristram]

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2764/imagekurgancomp0kh.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imagekurgancomp0kh.jpg)

[Sir Tristram]

It's really in the eyes and brows....the expression....and the paint/detailing is lame too...

Something just isn't right....

[TheObsoleteMan]

I've been racking my brain trying to figure out what the exclusive accessory might be, and the only thing I can come up with is maybe the case with the uncombined sword pieces.

[Darklord Dave]

That comparison pic really shows how close it is. A little more shading in the eye sockets and it would be even closer.

[PsychoCenobite]

I'm not sure if it's the angle but the main bit that looks odd to me is the top half of his head. It looks too big! I think a nicer paint job will help as he's a bit to clean in this picture.

Well it's still good to see him!

"It's better to burn out, than to fade away!"

All I hope for is that Sideshow make a 1:1 Kurgan sword! :google :banana

Psycho Cenobite :horror

[Sir Tristram]

I'm not sure if it's the angle but the main bit that looks odd to me is the top half of his head. It looks too big! I think a nicer paint job will help as he's a bit to clean in this picture.

Well it's still good to see him!

"It's better to burn out, than to fade away!"

All I hope for is that Sideshow make a 1:1 Kurgan sword! :google :banana

Psycho Cenobite :horror


Um....Marto already made one (Two actually, one signature edition from Clancy Brown) for the Highlander sword shop...They had them both on sale two weeks ago...they are both limited Edition....You better run over there and get one if you really want one!

[Sir Tristram]

I just chekced...they are NOT on sale anymore...

http://www.legendaryheroes.com/core/media/media.nl?id=1564&c=309960&h=b38468e7e98b694a92a4

http://www.legendaryheroes.com/core/media/media.nl?id=3556&c=309960&h=c122d46392dc0d87386d

$399.00 (Sahme, this was on sale for $250)

and then the Sig Ed. for $495 (was $350)
http://www.legendaryheroes.com/core/media/media.nl?id=3813&c=309960&h=9525d6df7583265edaf0

[denger4000]

I think I rather had a vintage looking Kurgan, still awesome that we are getting him, I hope we get a Kane figure.

[Ironman1188]

I don't see why everyone is complaining about the likeness, it definitely looks like Clancy from the end of the movie

HOLY MOTHER OF BRENT!!!

I don't know what's worse....That likeness [or lack thereof in this case] or the quote!!! :rolleyes:
I've been a fan of Clancy Brown's for some time and he is NOT in the sculpt pictured. Maybe they couldn't get his rights either?? Dusty, can you give us some clarification before this head gets the Brent rep?

[Darklord Dave]

Everyone jumped on Darla too when she just had the one preview pic - It's ridiculous to start attacking it based on a single picture.

[Sir Tristram]

Everyone jumped on Darla too when she just had the one preview pic - It's ridiculous to start attacking it based on a single picture.

Well, that is all we have to go on...What would be ridiculous is to see the preview picture of a very popular cult character and not remark on it at all.

[Masao]

The main problem with the sculpt is simply the width of the face. Notice the 'lightbulb' look of the skull? It can easily be fixed if anyone cares to.

The face is clearly too small for the head. It should not be a big problem to correct.

[oxbeard]

Everyone jumped on Darla too when she just had the one preview pic - It's ridiculous to start attacking it based on a single picture.

In the case of Darla, the preview pick appeared to have a large head. Andy stepped up and said this was an early prototype and the size had been corrected, end of story.

I'm hoping this may be the same situation here as I mentioned above. That this is simply an early proto pic and the concerns will be address as we near production and can see better pics.

[Darklord Dave]

Prototype and production are pretty close nowadays, considering that they were able to show a production version of Darla a week after debuting the figure. I'd imagine mr. brown is well on his way to town. But that's not to say that people's opinion of the likeness won't change drastically before it ships as happened with Connor.

[Hardcase01]

I can't believe it's not butter! Love that commercial.

[Ironman1188]

Everyone jumped on Darla too when she just had the one preview pic - It's ridiculous to start attacking it based on a single picture.

Ok, Sideshow....another picture of the sculpt please?

The main problem with the sculpt is simply the width of the face. Notice the 'lightbulb' look of the skull? It can easily be fixed if anyone cares to.

But....no one should have to. At $40+ these figures should not need us, the customer, to fix whats wrong. There should be nothing wrong.

[Fritz]

I don't think it's all that bad. Although, I'm not an overly huge Highlander fan. Certainly there are worse likenesses than this one. It's certainly much better than Willow.

[BDboystoys]

I don't think it's all that bad. Although, I'm not an overly huge Highlander fan. Certainly there are worse likenesses than this one. It's certainly much better than Willow.
It is, but thats not an excuse. Willow SHOULD have been better. But like Darklord Dave said, I dont think we should be attacking it on this one picture, even if it isnt to flattering.

[Ironman1188]

But like Darklord Dave said, I dont think we should be attacking it on this one picture, even if it isnt to flattering.
Ok, then...again, Sideshow...another photo please?

[Dusty]

As per usual, more photos will be added to the site when the pre-order goes live!

I'm sorry that some of you seem a little disappointed in the preview. I'm not a gigantic Highlander fan so I'm not really familiar with the character, but he's my favorite Highlander figure to date (well, maybe it's a tie with those guys in kilts - :naughty). He has a neat costume... and the way his neck is safety-pinned is quite cool - and looks very painful. :google

[thamesvalidude]

Sorry if I'm beginning to sound like Dave, but what is all the moaning about?
The figure looks like the character in the movie, as far as a doll can represent such a figure. It's well hard!
I've cancelled my origins Highlanders (sorry Dusty, the kilt does nothing for me and I'm all outta shelf space!!!!) as I hate duplicates, but the Kurgan is a credible extension of the line and from the preview a bloody good figure. Lets see the actual doll when the pre order happens. :peace

However, screw up Giles and I shall be less meciful!!!!!!! :naughty

[drbrad1975]

As per usual, more photos will be added to the site when the pre-order goes live!

I'm sorry that some of you seem a little disappointed in the preview. I'm not a gigantic Highlander fan so I'm not really familiar with the character, but he's my favorite Highlander figure to date (well, maybe it's a tie with those guys in kilts - :naughty). He has a neat costume... and the way his neck is safety-pinned is quite cool - and looks very painful. :google

Well, I am sorry too Dusty but that Kurgan does not look like Clancy Brown. It has a resemblence just do the fact that it has the outfit, the shaved head, etc but I know SS can do better work. I will definitely reserve judgement until I see the final piece as I did with Connor. However, I had to cusomize my Connor so that I could be happy with hit. Saying that, I would be happy to be able to customize the Kurgan if its that close. I love the Highlander movie and I would love to add this piece to my expanding SS collection. However, as of right now, it looks like one of those if I can get a good price figures. However, i do remain optimistic and I hope that the production figure improves upon the prototype.

Thanks Dusty!!

Brad

[Ironman1188]

Sorry if I'm beginning to sound like Dave,
unforgiveable :D

The figure looks like the character in the movie, as far as a doll can represent such a figure.

From that photo it doesn't look like the Kurgan in the Highlander movie I've seen. And as far as a "doll" can represent a figure, have you seen the Cigarette Smoking Man? The Bond figures? The Universal Monsters? The Monty Python figures? My point being that Sideshow set the bar for capturing likenesses, lately they seem to be forgetting that.

[creecher]

I'm not a big movie buff, though I'd like to be. It definitely doesn't look like Kurgan. It would be great to have each figure perfect, then we could complain about that. That would be fun. Before I saw the comparison pic posted, I thought the figure looked very visual. It still does, so I might get it on that point alone.

He might be what you need, Dr2Red, for you new Scully to operate on, at a later date. Might make a good zombie, or a nasty pirate. I'm intrigued enough to see what the rest of his costume is like, and what accessories will be added.

I wasn't impressed by the first Connor either. Michael Crawfords review gives me a look at Connor's jacket, for the first time. I like it. I wonder why they didn't show it on Sideshow site. Anyway, my initial disappointment in the line, steered me away from it entirely. It did, however, help give me the opportunity to start collecting the PF Monsters. I am happy about that. Now that the origins have come to light, I have a renewed interest. The sleeves look lovely and long, and his kilts look long enough to cover their knees. I would hope they dip the bodies to colour match the heads. Or at least, paint the exposed chest areas. This is an aspect that seems a retrogression.

[William Shatners Toupee]

I just want to pipe in that he at least looks amazing in detail in the clothes department, and with those saftely pins, so just from this one pic, awesome work there guys!

My own preference for a Kurgan is the "Origins" version as well, so hopefully SS'll do one at some point..

[knuckles1970]

Crappy headsculpt. Waaay crappy.

[The Ugly Uruk]

I think it's the eyes and melon. The eyes look too small and the skull too big. I am with the origins crowd, that's the one I want to see.

http://hegylako.fplanet.hu/film/kepek/letoltheto/kurgan/kurgan2.jpg

[JSA]

YES! That is the Kurgan I want - and as a STATUE, not a figure.

I'll be happy with a figure, but a 1/6 or 1/4 scale of Kurgan as shown above,
either on or off horseback is what I ideally want in my collection.

http://hegylako.fplanet.hu/film/kepek/hl-kurgan.jpg

Really, honestly, has there EVER been cooler looking armor on film? Skulls man!
(I'll give Sauron a pass on this one, but skull armor rules!)

Make it so! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?

JS :peace

[thamesvalidude]

From that photo it doesn't look like the Kurgan in the Highlander movie I've seen. And as far as a "doll" can represent a figure, have you seen the Cigarette Smoking Man? The Bond figures? The Universal Monsters? The Monty Python figures? My point being that Sideshow set the bar for capturing likenesses, lately they seem to be forgetting that.
__________________

Sorry Ironman, not only am I beginning to sound like Dave (unforgivable, I know, I must repeat I am not a sideshow sycophant 100 times!!!) :naughty
(Only kidding Dave!!)
But I think living in Tony Blair land is sending me all sort of.........reasonable. I
really do think it looks like the Kurgan. Maybe it's my ageing eyesight, I'm too vain to go to the optician. Anyway we'll see over the next couple of days what SS have produced. As for accuracy in "dolls" (yeah, I know, unworthy dig) I have most of the figures you mentioned and you are (rassen, dasssen **** Ironman!!!) right. SS have achieved amazing accuracy in the past and I don't even think my Willow and Faith are thatbad.
But like I say, screw up Giles and reasonable is out of the window!!! :cool:

[Migwit]

I think SS has taken to heart some of the board members' complaints about the feedback system on the SS site. If you look at the comments for Kurgan, there's the negative with the positive.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/behindtheshow/?p=298#comments

[The Ugly Uruk]

Really, honestly, has there EVER been cooler looking armor on film? Skulls man! (I'll give Sauron a pass on this one, but skull armor rules!)
The only other really cool "different" armour I can think of is from Dracula. This just floored me when I saw it for the first time. But nowhere near as cool as the Kurgan skull armour.

http://www.brianbero.com/DRAC100.jpg http://www.brianbero.com/DRAC201.jpg

[Azog]

One very cool thing, is I have hopes that SS will use the 13 inch body that they used on Jason Voorhees in the JvsF set...

[Viking28]

Product Type: 13 inch Figure
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/56031_press05-001.jpg
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/5603_press03-001.jpg

[Azog]

Darken the eyes, and it will look great....also they ARE using the taller body excellent....

[Ironman1188]

Ahhh, yes. I see the resemblence now:
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/5603_press04-001.jpg :naughty

Sunda Kastagir looks more like POTA's Dodge, which I wouldn't mind.[hint, hint]

[Azog]

Ahhh, yes. I see the resemblence now:
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/5603_press04-001.jpg :naughty

Sunda Kastagir looks more like POTA's Dodge, which I wouldn't mind.[hint, hint]


Yep, white the eyes out and it you are correct...

[Buttmunch]

Got my order in, but I don't see why he needs to be $10 more than the rest. His height and outfit should only raise the price by $5 insead if any. He only comes with one other accessory besides the exclusive one.

[Dusty]

Got my order in, but I don't see why he needs to be $10 more than the rest. His height and outfit should only raise the price by $5 insead if any. He only comes with one other accessory besides the exclusive one.


If I may hazard a guess, it's because he comes with the extra headsculpt as well as a more complicated costume, with real rivets, etc. Perhaps something to do with the extra paint-ops on his neck with the intricate safety-pins as well? (mind you, this is just a guess after seeing the figure first-hand, as I'm not privy to the information that goes into production and pricing)

[TheObsoleteMan]

Not crazy about that $55 price tag, but I got one ordered. The fact that he comes with Kastagir's head as an accessory takes the sting out a bit.

[Ironman1188]

Dusty, I'm not used to you being that sarcastic.
Thats hot. :naughty

[Sir Tristram]

I'm sorry, it just still doesn't look like Clancy Brown's Kurgan. It is close, but there is something amiss!

[BDboystoys]

i love the figure! but not the movie all that much, I think I'll miss this one

[Bonehead15]

Kurgan looks good overall but I have to agree that the sculpt is missing something.

The outfit though looks fabulous!! :google

Kudos to SS for using the 13" body. :bow

[Masao]

"Originally Posted by Masao
The main problem with the sculpt is simply the width of the face. Notice the 'lightbulb' look of the skull? It can easily be fixed if anyone cares to.



But....no one should have to. At $40+ these figures should not need us, the customer, to fix whats wrong. There should be nothing wrong."


Sometimes when I say things it may not be obvious who I am subtley addressing. In this case, it was to anyone who has input to the sculptor and let him know how to fix the problem and not to the fans.

Occasionally a sculpture needs something, but the sculptor, working too intensely on the work, cannot see the flaws anymore. A second pair of eyes can be very valuable. As you can see from the updated sculpts, it is more a matter of time rather than skill.

That said, I will have to add: Make the eyes bulge more. Make the jaw and mouth wider. Match the face to the size of the back of the skull.

[screamingmetal]

The head sculpt looks a bit better in the pics on the pre-order page but there is still room for improvement. The eye area is what looks like it needs the most work. But I love how the costume looks! I placed my order, but I do wish they work on the head a bit more before release.

[Sir Tristram]

....He kind of looks like one of the inbred from Deliverance.

Those eyes, teeth and facial expression. :horror

[Buttmunch]

I was looking at Highlander over at IMDb and found out that the guy's head who the Kurgan comes with is none other than the guy who played Capt. Panaka is Star Wars Episode I. I wonder if this is a hint at an upcoming SW figure :confused:

Does the Kurgan cut off Connery's head? If so, is it in the Origin era? If so, that would be a great exlusive accessory for the Origins Kurgan. I'd imagine Origins Kurgan or Connery (Ramerize?sp) would be the next figure(s).

[TheObsoleteMan]

Kurgan does indeed lop of Ramirez's head back in the 16th century, and yes, that would be an awesome accessory.

[zombie holocaust]

Im very excited, but i agree the face is too bland

[superado]

I wonder how much a paint touch-up will do to make the figure look more like Clancy Brown's Kurgan. The circles in the eyes, yes, but what about artificially widening the mouth by extending the corners of the mouth with with paint, into a sneer? Something similar can be done to the eyes to make them sinister. Is anyone planning to do this? I've yet to decide in getting even my first Highlander figure, and if I do, it will be Conner to be followed by Kurgan.