Hasbro line officially (NOT) dead???

[Billy Ray]

Read it and weep (http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Hasbros_INDIANA_JONES_QA_The_Answers_117835.asp):

Cool Toy Review: Is the German Mechanic figure shown in the second Raiders of the Lost Ark wave scheduled for January going to include any accessories (wrench, removable hat and shirt etc...)?

Also, would it be possible to see a picture of the stands that will be included in this wave as well as Mola Ram without his head dress?

Hasbro: Right now, we are not going to be revealing any more details or information on this wave due to the likelihood that it will not make it out.

Cool Toy Review: What is your internal "doomsday date" to determine the future of the Indiana Jones line at retail? Or, what specific date in the coming months is the "point of no return" for Indy's future? Will there be enough time to "rescue" the line to produce and distribute post-Temple Of Doom/Wave 4 if the Indy line indeed starts to sell at a faster pace?

Hasbro: Right now, it's highly unlikely that the line will continue significantly beyond the holidays this year.

[galactiboy]

Maybe Indy is just a hard sell...

[pixletwin]

What a big surprise. :rolleyes:

[CelticPredator]

^^^^. Well....ATLEAST I got Henry Jones. Damn this makes me mad.

[monkeydad16]

I've waited my entire life for this line only to see it die an early death :banghead

[IrishJedi]

Well, at least we'll get Mola Ram.

[EVILFACE]

Too much too soon (or late for some . . . ) for Indy stuff?

[CelticPredator]

Well, at least we'll get Mola Ram.

He hasnt come out yet.....so....:monkey2

[IrishJedi]

I think it was the EPISODE I effect. They over-anticipated demand, didn't pace the stuff well at all and just put a ton of stuff out all at once.

Sideshow, on the other-hand, has had the opposite problem. They're killing their own INDY line with a slow burn of apathy.

[IrishJedi]

He hasnt come out yet.....so....:monkey2

The TOD wave is coming in November. That's what Hasbro means by there likely being no new waves after the Holiday season (TOD).

[CelticPredator]

I think Hasbro's and Sideshow's issue is, they didnt pick the best character(s).
Sideshow shouldnt have done Belloq yet...

As for Hasbro...

They shoulda realised Toht. They shoulda put Belloq with the deluxe ark, they should've had Marion in her dress, and had her atleast look like Allen. They should've released Mola, Short Round, and Henry Jones earlier, mabye threw in the Mechanic, and should've focused less on carded characters like Salah, the Soldiers, Monkeyman...and all those lesser characters that could've, and should've been included as Deluxes.

Salah and Map Room Indy would've been a great 2 pack, Cairo Guard, with Swordsman, Monkeyman with bike...ect.

[CelticPredator]

The TOD wave is coming in November. That's what Hasbro means by there likely being no new waves after the Holiday season (TOD).

GOOD. :wacky

[IrishJedi]

What we may likely never see (or hopefully they at least ship SOME of this last wave):

http://www.rebelscum.com/SDCC08/Hasbro/presentation/Slide68.JPG

[CelticPredator]

All I want is freaking Toht. Why is that so wrong. Hasbro...just release these online. It'll sell there.

[Bardoon]

I'm not surprised, most kids these days don't even really know who Indiana Jones is and quite possibly they might've already forgotten about KotCS and have NEVER seen the original trilogy movies.

It's tough basing a toyline around a SINGLE CHARACTER FRANCHISE like Indy. Mostly everyone knows Indy and that's IT...no one else is a stand out to them unless you're a big fan and/or collector in this case.

Sad to see it go but I'm not shocked.

[IrishJedi]

This is also a good example of why collectors have every right to carp when 2nd/3rd tier characters get made early on in a line before more more popular ones. So now we have a Monkey Man figure, but no Toht? Fan-freakin-tastic! Way to go, Hasbro! :rolleyes:

Heed this, Sideshow. Because I can actually see the SW 12" line ending before we ever get Chewie or the droids. But, damn... at least we'll have Commander Praji, Endor Rebels and Captain Antilles. Woo-hoo!

[Wor-Gar]

Read it and weep (http://www.cooltoyreview.com/story/front/Hasbros_INDIANA_JONES_QA_The_Answers_117835.asp):

Damn! No melted screaming Toht head! :(

My sig seems superfluous.

[Odowankenobi]

Gah! I can deal with not having the rest of that wave, but Toht is an absolute must. Please Hasbro, I beg of you! You already have the mold ready. Please find some way of getting Toht to us!

[Trevolver]

you know, I'm pretty satisfied with the span of the Hasbro collection. It isn't what I dreamed, but it's pretty good. The Temple of Doom stuff is just starting to show up, so you stand a chance of getting those. (online, at least)

I wish I had never seen the prototypes of the Toht wave...or the other Mighty Muggs that have now been canceled...but what I have, I thoroughly enjoy..

I'll never understand the way retailers handled everything, and the case assortments, but...I've finally got a nice collection of cool figures from Indy...as a kid I would have absolutely flipped over this stuff.

Trev

[RJMacReady16]

you know, I'm pretty satisfied with the span of the Hasbro collection. It isn't what I dreamed, but it's pretty good. The Temple of Doom stuff is just starting to show up, so you stand a chance of getting those. (online, at least)

I wish I had never seen the prototypes of the Toht wave...or the other Mighty Muggs that have now been canceled...but what I have, I thoroughly enjoy..

I'll never understand the way retailers handled everything, and the case assortments, but...I've finally got a nice collection of cool figures from Indy...as a kid I would have absolutely flipped over this stuff.

Trev

In a way I can relate to that.

I'm certainly not happy about this news....

But I have a f#@$ing CONVOY TRUCK!!!! :chew

[Krypto]

I think it was the EPISODE I effect. They over-anticipated demand, didn't pace the stuff well at all and just put a ton of stuff out all at once.

This is the correct answer. Too much product too soon.

[choopie]

I'm disappointed. IJ was the license that pulled me back into collecting toys. I'm happy with what has been released (we've gotten a smattering of figures from all four films), but I agree that the license was handled poorly. And thanks to other companies like Sideshow and GG, we won't see much in the way of higher-end products either.

I've been waiting years for IJ collectibles. Such a shame that all of this will be short-lived.

[Kuzeh]

Ah man, this sucks!!
Well, maybe Hasbro will finally learn to stop clogging pegs with lame variations and understand that their stupid case ratios, combined with them not making this a collector's line, it was pretty much DOA...

Between this and Medicom's 14 Y.O. body Indy, Sideshow's delays, and GG's & Koto's crapfest, this should be called:

"Indiana Jones and the Curse of the Licensed Products"...

[icruise]

Face it. The fact of the matter is that Indy just isn't that popular. We like him, and there is a core group of collectors who would buy this line, but the kids never really got into Crystal Skull that much and have already forgotten about it. They were never fans of the original films. I go to Walmart and see the shelves clogged with this stuff. Unless you have a real sense of nostalgia for these films, you're not going to want to buy a figure of any of the Indy characters, with the possible exception of Indy himself, since he's an icon.

I just wish there was a way for Hasbo to release these (and the Mighty Muggs!) on a more limited scale. Why not sell them as exclusives on their web site? They could certainly get away with charging more per figure, if necessary.

[TheObsoleteMan]

Face it. The fact of the matter is that Indy just isn't that popular. We like him, and there is a core group of collectors who would buy this line, but the kids never really go into Crystal Skull that much and have already forgotten about it. They were never fans of the original films. I go to Walmart and see the shelves clogged with this stuff. Unless you have a real sense of nostalgia for these films, you're not going to want to buy a figure of any of the Indy characters, with the possible exception of Indy himself, since he's an icon.


You nailed it. People can blame Hasbro for the case assortments killing the line, but in reality it's just not a good toy line for kids. Hell, I'll wager a lot of collectors only bought an Indy and maybe Henry Sr. if they could find him.

[IrishJedi]

Between this and Medicom's 14 Y.O. body Indy, Sideshow's delays, and GG's & Koto's crapfest, this should be called:

"Indiana Jones and the Curse of the Licensed Products"...

:lol

:lecture :lecture :lecture

Of course, you could add to that Takara's Follow-The-Coconuts Act.

[TheObsoleteMan]

you know, I'm pretty satisfied with the span of the Hasbro collection. It isn't what I dreamed, but it's pretty good. The Temple of Doom stuff is just starting to show up, so you stand a chance of getting those. (online, at least)

I wish I had never seen the prototypes of the Toht wave...or the other Mighty Muggs that have now been canceled...but what I have, I thoroughly enjoy..

I'll never understand the way retailers handled everything, and the case assortments, but...I've finally got a nice collection of cool figures from Indy...as a kid I would have absolutely flipped over this stuff.

Trev

I agree. For the line having such a short lifespan, Hasbro did actually manage to get a good chunk of the core characters done. The only glaring omissions imo are Toht and Marcus Brody.

[Odowankenobi]

You nailed it. People can blame Hasbro for the case assortments killing the line, but in reality it's just not a good toy line for kids. Hell, I'll wager a lot of collectors only bought an Indy and maybe Henry Sr. if they could find him.

I know that plenty of collectors were practically completists on this line. The problem comes from the horrible case packouts with a whole bunch of Mutts and Indys that we already had. The figures we actually did want many of us never found.

[IrishJedi]

I know that plenty of collectors were practically completists on this line. The problem comes from the horrible case packouts with a whole bunch of Mutts and Indys that we already had. The figures we actually did want many of us never found.

That was a BIG part of the problem. Hasbro's ridiculously dumb case assortments and what that retailers ordered went a long way towards creating overflowing pegs on store aisles.

[TheObsoleteMan]

The Mutts didn't help, but it wasn't just Mutt that was pegwarming, it was everything. Do we blame the retailers for overordering or the public for underbuying?

[IrishJedi]

Well, it certainly wasn't ONE silver bullet that contributed... but I do strongly believe that a better assorted, more sanely paced line would have had a much better chance at success.

The problem is that the main culprits here (Hasbro, Wal-Mart and Lucasfilm Licensing) don't really know how to finesse anything... they're all about overkill and over-saturation. Sometimes (SW as a whole) that works... and sometimes it clearly does not (TPM, and now INDY).

[Kuzeh]

I think the biggest mistake here was to direct IJ towards kids,
the fans of Indy are adults, it's not Star Wars... it's the same mistake Mattel did with the MOTU line a few years ago, kids didn't know who He-Man was, don't expect them to just bite a franchise that was successful 15-20 years ago. This should've been a line dedicated to collectors... that's it!
I just hope we get the TOD series and but seems like Toht, German Mechanic, Satipo/Sapito and Dress Marion are history...too bad
Dos eanybody now if Indy w/ Bike and sidecar and Bike Mutt are canned to?
If so that sucks...

[rentu]

Found Mutt with the Bike yesterday at Walmart so it is out, was rather excited to see anything new on the shelf it's been so long!

[kain4521]

Another thing that hurt this line with kids was that it had to compete with the likes of Iron Man and The Dark Knight toys.

[Kuzeh]

Another thing that hurt this line with kids was that it had to compete with the likes of Iron Man and The Dark Knight toys.

Iron Man toys aren't selling that much are they?
I see them clogging pegs, not as bad as Indy...

[kain4521]

Iron Man toys aren't selling that much are they?
I see them clogging pegs, not as bad as Indy...

At the time when the Indy line could have gotten popular with the kids and make it sell well it had to compete with those two. As for Iron Man they have just started to trickle back in around here for the last two months all we could find for my son was the Mark 3 suit here and there but now they are starting to fill the shelves with them.

[IrishJedi]

I don't think any of them (Indy, TDK, Iron Man, Hulk) sold like gangbusters (with the exception of Mattel's MM line with TDK). But they all did much better than Speed Racer. :lol

[choopie]

I could have told Hasbro that collectors would mainly be buying this line, not kids. Grant you, Hasbro tried to attract the kiddies because of KOTCS, but they have to know that their core audience is those who grew up watching the other films.

I can understand flooding the market at the release of the film, but with the same figures clogging the pegs four months later Hasbro should have made adjustments to the line a long time ago. Fact of the matter is Hasbro was relying on the success of KOTCS to carry the line, but the film received mixed reviews and had barely any staying power. You can't sell figures to mainstream buyers when nobody is excited about the film anymore. Plus, most movie tie-in toys don't last long on the shelves. Space is at a minimum and competition is just too great.

I pre-ordered the TOD wave online and over the holiday season I'll backtrack and pick up a few other items here and there and call it a day with Hasbro.

[King Darkness]

I tried to care, but I really dont :dunno

[IrishJedi]

The irony here is (other than the new Millennium Falcon) the INDY line is the first time I've really purchased Hasbro stuff in eons. So now I can go back to my merry world of ignoring them. :lol

[IrishJedi]

I tried to care, but I really dont :dunno

Liar. You never tried. :lol

[King Darkness]

Liar. You never tried. :lol

Busted :D......

[IrishJedi]

Busted :D......

:lol

:duff

[Wor-Gar]

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/HasbroToht.jpg

Haaaaaaas-broooooooooooooooo!!!!

[Batty]

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/HasbroToht.jpg

Haaaaaaas-broooooooooooooooo!!!!

Alan Greenspan?

[jedibear]

Just a few main problems with this line, most which have been pointed out by other folks...

Poor distribution and availability I still remember the pegs and shelves up here being virtually EMPTY the week the movie opened. No product for those post-screening impulse shoppers to grab up. No role-playing toys (the soft whip, the hat-n-whip set) for the young kids...NOTHING.

Bad case assortments Like Star Wars, the Indy line featured case assortments with just a few new figures and filled up with mostly figures from prior waves. Packing in multiple Indys was understandable, he's the lead....but the cases should have featured more new characters as they were released, not less.

Poor character choices This one is debatable to be sure, for everyone who expected to see a Toht or Mechanic, there may be someone who really liked the Monkey Man or Ciaro Swordsman. But the emphasis early on should have been the more iconic-looking or more familiar characters because of their big scenes(can anyone not think of ROTA without remembering that melting face or that incredible fight under the Flying Wing?) such as Toht or the Mechanic.
Granted, it's tough considering these are no exotic, alien characters ala SW, but it's just bad luck that we've been teased with images of some figures we'll never see now that the line is dead.

I also hope that if that last ROTA wave has actually made it into production that Hasbro finds a retail partner (online or B&M) that would be willing to carry them.

I've enjoyed this line immensely...I never thought a major toy line based on this property would see the light of day, so I at least want to thank Hasbro for what we've gotten...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2242/2485009105_1f6caab4c1_o.jpg

Long live Indiana Jones!

[kl241]

KOTC sucked, too many lame KOTC figures front loading the shelves and the main buyers are adults not kids for Indy. Lucas and Spielberg made the mistake of trying to make KOTC for "new" audiences when really it was and should have been made for the "fans". Blame Lucas and Spielberg, and now hopefully Indy will R.I.P. - it is a sad day, I really wanted a new wave of Raiders figures.

Maybe after Lucas screws up Clone Wars, those figures will be gone as well. He did a great job at it so far, making a horrible crpafest cgi film.

Just watched the Gofather I and II at the dome in LA, Coppola needs to grab a hold of Spielberg and Lucas and make them watch his films again. After the films ended I walked over to look at what was playing and saw "House Bunny" on the marquee - that says it all.

Bring on Hasbro's The Godfather - "The Corleone Collection" wave.

[scubasteve]

Heed this, Sideshow. Because I can actually see the SW 12" line ending before we ever get Chewie or the droids. But, damn... at least we'll have Commander Praji, Endor Rebels and Captain Antilles. Woo-hoo!

You speak truth, friend. You speak truth.

[Entropy]

This stinks. The Raiders wave with Toht was my favorite. :( Still wish they'd release them as an exclusive gift box set or something.

[scubasteve]

I'm far more pissed about the cancelled Mighty Muggs. I was a completist with those, not so much with the 3.75".

[CelticPredator]

This stinks. The Raiders wave with Toht was my favorite. :( Still wish they'd release them as an exclusive gift box set or something.

Doesnt Hasbro release new figures whenever a new movie comes out? In those Wal-Mart gift packs?

I think the Indy movies are getting another release....a 4 pack. That should be Hasbro's chance to strike.

Raiders: Toht, Indy, and Marion(white dress plz!)
Temple: Indy, Mola (although i'd probably be Willy) and Short Round.
Crusade: Henry, Indy, and Elsa

thats perfect for Hasbro! I'd buy them all.

[choopie]

I'm far more pissed about the cancelled Mighty Muggs. I was a completist with those, not so much with the 3.75".

I'm with you on this. I'm kind of surprised the Mighty Muggs are being cancelled. They are an easy retool and seem to be fairly well received by collectors. I wished Hasbro would just release what they've announced.

[2000man]

The case assortments weren't the best. But with that said, a lot of peg warmers in this line. I am not shocked, but it is a bit sad

[IrishJedi]

I'm far more pissed about the cancelled Mighty Muggs. I was a completist with those, not so much with the 3.75".

But, yay! We got a Cairo Swordsman Mighty Mugg instead of Henry, Sr!! :banana

:rolleyes:

(Again, Sideshow, are you paying attention??)

[DarthNeil]

:monkey2

Oh well...

[icruise]

But, yay! We got a Cairo Swordsman Mighty Mugg instead of Henry, Sr!! :banana

:rolleyes:

(Again, Sideshow, are you paying attention??)

What do you mean? We have both.

[IrishJedi]

The Henry Sr. Mighty Mugg is out???

[DarthNeil]

The Henry Sr. Mighty Mugg is out???

I've already got mine.

[IrishJedi]

WHOA! I guess I'd better try and find one fast, then. Damn it! :banghead

[scubasteve]

WHOA! I guess I'd better try and find one fast, then. Damn it! :banghead

You were right about the Swordsman, though. ^^^^ choice by Hasbro for a first wave figure.

[Trevolver]

you know, I hate to admit it, but I AM kind of happy that Indy won't ever turn into what Star Wars has become....I look at the toys for Star Wars and marvel at how little I care anymore....Not to say they're poorly done, they aren't...but it's just overkill at this point. I hardly even know what I'm looking at, or what line is what...it's wild.

Trev

[galactiboy]

Yeah, at least this way Indy doesn't get quite as whored-out as SW. Although bummer about the last wave... some great looking figures. Especially Toht and the Mechanic.

[IrishJedi]

you know, I hate to admit it, but I AM kind of happy that Indy won't ever turn into what Star Wars has become....I look at the toys for Star Wars and marvel at how little I care anymore....Not to say they're poorly done, they aren't...but it's just overkill at this point. I hardly even know what I'm looking at, or what line is what...it's wild.

:lecture :lecture :lecture :lecture

I was burned out on Hasbro SW stuff about 7-8 years ago... and they're still churning out that clutter at record pace! :google

[Billy Ray]

you know, I hate to admit it, but I AM kind of happy that Indy won't ever turn into what Star Wars has become....I look at the toys for Star Wars and marvel at how little I care anymore....Not to say they're poorly done, they aren't...but it's just overkill at this point. I hardly even know what I'm looking at, or what line is what...it's wild.

Trev

I feel the exact same way. I have only picked up a handful of SW figures this year, whereas I used to be almost a completist. Too many EU figures from sources I am not familiar with, too many repaints/rehashes, and too many wacky Marvel paintjobs. What $$ I was saving on SW was going into Indiana Jones though, so now that the line is going away, at least I will save some. I just ordered the Temple of Doom set online and only have a few items to pick up and I will have the complete set...I guess that is somewhat satisfying. Still would have loved that last wave shown at SDCC...someone should be burned at the stake for even teasing us like that:mad:

[TheObsoleteMan]

Yeah, at least this way Indy doesn't get quite as whored-out as SW. Although bummer about the last wave... some great looking figures. Especially Toht and the Mechanic.

The real bummer with Toht is that the body for the figure has already been tooled. So close yet so far.

[RJMacReady16]

I actually have no problems with the Indy line being whored out.

I was hoping it would get to the point where they were making Indy, Shorty and Willie in the inflatable raft.

I would buy it....

[turtlepower73]

actually temple of doom has made ito ut. i got my notice mine is coming..
also i would like to have hasbro after the wave coming in 2009.
to go back and do a votc version of indiana jones. because what killed it for me was that the eyes were never in the right places for the indy figure. we all have seen some of those figures...

[Kuzeh]

Some figures can easily be customized, like German Officer Indy, just swa the head of a hatless Indy and put it on a German Officer.
A suited Indy, using Henry Sr.'s body, and regular Indy head.
But Toht, White Suit Belloq, and Mechanic...would be harder to accomplish...

[RJMacReady16]

Some figures can easily be customized, like German Officer Indy, just swa the head of a hatless Indy and put it on a German Officer.
A suited Indy, using Henry Sr.'s body, and regular Indy head.
But Toht, White Suit Belloq, and Mechanic...would be harder to accomplish...

Pretty good pointers there.

Would still need Marion from the Well of Souls, though.

I guess more than anything I'll miss the prospect of playsets and vehicles.

The bridge, minecar, motorcycle & sidecar, Last Crusade tank, Jock w/ his plane, etc. etc. :monkey2:monkey2:monkey2

[nefarius1]

Well, I hope we still get a few more nice collectibles from SS. I'd love to see a Henry Sr. and Marion PF at the very least. Maybe a few more figures. Keeps fingers crossed.

[Wor-Gar]

I hope we still get a few more nice collectibles from SS. I'd love to see a Henry Sr. and Marion PF at the very least.

:slap

Marion PF.... with the way this is going?

[galactiboy]

Yeah, I could almost guarantee we will never see a Marion PF.

[Bodie The Cursed]

Yeah, I could almost guarantee we will never see a Marion PF.

[nefarius1]

Sorry, I should have said..."wouldn't be nice if they made a Marion or Henry Sr. PF, not that I'm holding my breath"

[DarthNeil]

Yeah, I could almost guarantee we will never see a Marion PF.




Echo.

Echo.

Echo.

So, should I snag the 4th line (ToD) on-line now through a pre-order as I'll probably never find it at retail?

[Kuzeh]

So, should I snag the 4th line (ToD) on-line now through a pre-order as I'll probably never find it at retail?
I'm thinking about that too...

[IrishJedi]

The TOD wave will definitely be much harder to find in retail stores if it's true that Wal-Mart is refusing to stock any new INDY skus as of right now. But I'm guessing their edict is for after the first of the year, which is why it would make sense that Hasbro got cold feet with the next ROLTA wave... which was set to hit 1/15.

[Memnoch]

Well I ordered my TOD wave from EE, will have to pick up the LC wave off eBay I guess. Just really pissed about the Raiders wave because that would have brought us VERY close to a complete remake of the vintage line.

[IrishJedi]

I might be on the lookout for the Cargo Truck with the new cloth canopy as well.

And while many INDY collectors will lament the loss of the Flying Wing vehicle that was planned for 2009, it's probably a blessing since it would obviously have been under-sized and surely without the identifying and characteristic swastikas on the tailfins. :huh

[Wor-Gar]

I might be on the lookout for the Cargo Truck with the new cloth canopy as well.

And while many INDY collectors will lament the loss of the Flying Wing vehicle that was planned for 2009, it's probably a blessing since it would obviously have been under-sized and surely without the identifying and characteristic swastikas on the tailfins. :huh

Ugh, the Wing. That would have been so cool. Even if off a bit. Would make a great little dio.

What truck with cloth canopy? Is there a new one out?

[IrishJedi]

What truck with cloth canopy? Is there a new one out?

Yes, Hasbro re-did the ROTLA Cargo Truck with a cloth canopy and a new image on the packaging. Supposedly, it should be out now... and for the same $19.99 SRP. I'm sure there are pics somewhere.

[DarthNeil]

Well I ordered my TOD wave from EE, will have to pick up the LC wave off eBay I guess. Just really pissed about the Raiders wave because that would have brought us VERY close to a complete remake of the vintage line.

I ordered it from my Canadian supplier... Not taking chances with this line seemingly going bye bye.

[Kuzeh]

So I guess Indy with German Bike and Sidecar gets the axe too?...

[Memnoch]

So I guess Indy with German Bike and Sidecar gets the axe too?...

Everything after the TOD wave pretty much gets the axe.

[choopie]

So, should I snag the 4th line (ToD) on-line now through a pre-order as I'll probably never find it at retail?

That's what I ended up doing. The figures should be here tomorrow. I think this wave will be nearly impossible to find in stores, and from pics it looks to be the best wave produced.

[Shai]

:lol:lol:lol Indy fans owned !!!


Seriously, if you guys really want some figures that wont come out from this line,I suggest ebay...Some painted prototypes are always for sell months in advance by guys from hong-kong working at the the factory where this was supposed to be produced..of course they'll be loose, but thats the closest thing to the produced figure.

[Captain Britain]

Weirdly, the TOD wave has hit UK comic shop chain Forbidden Planet. I've now got one of each, plus an extra Indy, Short Round, Mola Ram and Giant Thugee.

These are absolutely superb figures.

[Venky]

Could not Entertainment Earth take over and preserve the line as they are doing with Star Wars such as more off beat character groups? This way they can release more unique figures that would NEVER had likely sold on the pegs (ie. Marcus, Professor Henry Jones, Dietreich etc.)

[choopie]

Could not Entertainment Earth take over and preserve the line as they are doing with Star Wars such as more off beat character groups? This way they can release more unique figures that would NEVER had likely sold on the pegs (ie. Marcus, Professor Henry Jones, Dietreich etc.)

From the most recent Q&A:

Cool Toy Review: Would you consider continuing the line as online exclusives with a higher per-figure price if it is not feasible to continue the line at stores like Wal-Mart and Target? In order to get figures like Oxley, Mac, Donovan, and Marcus collectors would be willing to pay more.

Hasbro: It would not be possible to continue the line in this manner, since the size of the IJ collector base is not enough to sustain development work and production volumes by itself.

[abstractharmony]

It makes me sad that Indy could not sell but why should kids but insubstantial action figures of an old man and people in dresses when they can buy the new chunky day-glo Ben 10 figures?

[Billy Ray]

Yes, Hasbro re-did the ROTLA Cargo Truck with a cloth canopy and a new image on the packaging. Supposedly, it should be out now... and for the same $19.99 SRP. I'm sure there are pics somewhere.

It is out, I have seen it a couple of times at Wal-Mart, but passed.

I also went the online route with the ToD figures. Though it pains me deeply to say this, I ordered them from Brianstoys. They will be here Thursday.

[Kuzeh]

It is out, I have seen it a couple of times at Wal-Mart, but passed.

I also went the online route with the ToD figures. Though it pains me deeply to say this, I ordered them from Brianstoys. They will be here Thursday.

Yikes!!! From Brianstoys??!!
I hope they didn't charge you an arm and a leg for them...
seriously, I'm surprised how they stay in business with their outrageous prices...
I'll get them from another on-line e-tailer...
Brianstoys and Toy Wiz are banned on my list!

[Shropt]

I'm not too surprised the line is dead. Heck, Kenner couldn't sell figures back when the movies were popular, what makes Hasbro think they will sell now?

[Wor-Gar]

Hasbro: It would not be possible to continue the line in this manner, since the size of [ your dreams ] is not enough to sustain development work and production volumes by itself.

:)

Someone needs to make this their sig.

[cerealkeller]

I wasn't a huge collector of this line but I wanted the main characters from each movie. I just think Hasbro blew it with so many Mutts and Indys and Monkey Man clogging the shelves. The reason I didn't buy any right away was the horrible paint apps on the first batch that looked like crap. Only ones I found from Last Crusade were Henry Sr., Young Indy and reg. Indy. I better be able to get Short Round dammit!!!!!

[CelticPredator]

Temple is safe....Raiders part Deux....well. They're going into the Box Warehouse at Area 51

[cerealkeller]

I just wonder if Temple figs are basically going to have to be obtained online. I don't want to order a case but on the same note don't want to pay $17.00 plus shipping like ebay right now. Oh well I guess, just would be nice to see Hasbro not stop the line but "reconsider" it so to speak. Send a pull for retailers to get rid of all the Mutts and whatever else is clogging pegs. Then send out new case assortments but keep the stock reasonable and not the onslaught we were bombarded with. See how they sell, then consider if the line is worth continuing. Probably too costly but this line could have been cool if they realized it would sell to adults more and not the kids they were aiming for.

[metaphorge]

I doubt we'll be this lucky, but I really hope at least Toht will see the light of day somehow, since at least the body has been tooled (for the SDCC Cobra Commander). He seems to be the most glaring omission.

[Batty]

I was in WalMart today and couldn't believe how many Indy figures they had. They must have just gotten a new shipment in because the pegs were overflowing.

[IrishJedi]

I was in WalMart today and couldn't believe how many Indy figures they had. They must have just gotten a new shipment in because the pegs were overflowing.

I think they're still re-stocking stuff they've had in the back all Summer. I'm telling you, they way over-ordered (and Hasbro's figure allotments didn't help). :duh

[Memnoch]

Hey IJ maybe you can tell me something, Hasbro said they had the Raiders wave slated for a 1/15 on shelf date.. wouldn't that mean that figures would have to be ready for, in or finished production by now? I dunno Im just really pissed after realizing that with this wave ALL that would have been missing from the vintage collection is Belloq in the Panama outfit. :banghead:banghead ONE ^^^^ING FIGURE! Now, instead, we are five short.

[IrishJedi]

Honestly, there is no way to be sure. One rumor is that Hasbro knew as far back as late June that they likely wouldn't be shipping anything after the Holidays. If that's true (again, if) it means they pulled a fast one on collectors by even showing the 1/15 ROTLA wave at SDCC.

[Memnoch]

Honestly, there is no way to be sure. One rumor is that Hasbro knew as far back as late June that they likely wouldn't be shipping anything after the Holidays. If that's true (again, if) it means they pulled a fast one on collectors by even showing the 1/15 ROTLA wave at SDCC.

Well.. hadn't heard that one before. Too bad there's no way to substantiate that because if it's true that would be the biggest douche move EVER. The ROTLA figures are the ones I wanted the most as well. Ah well, I do have an idea to clear the shelves though come Christmas time. Toys for tots ALWAYS needs donations. I'd suck it up just to clear off the pegs.

[Bonehead15]

I think they're still re-stocking stuff they've had in the back all Summer. I'm telling you, they way over-ordered (and Hasbro's figure allotments didn't help). :duh

You're right.

My cousin is a manager at Wally World and he says almost every store has TONS of overstock. The problem is that Hasbro auto-shipped the figures all summer long and didn't allow stores to cancel orders or return anything.

He even went as far as to say that the Holiday resets just came out for next month and Indy has little to no shelf space depending on the size of the store. The larger stores will still have Indy but most of the smaller stores will only be carrying it on just endcaps and island displays until they can get rid of the overstock.

[YoNoSe]

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3152485

I found this on TRU.com. Unless anybody has a better idea I'm assuming it's just the truck, jeep or jungle cutter repacked with figures but I did get excited for second. :confused:

[Billy Ray]

It is the Jungle Cutter with KOTCS Indy and two Russian soldiers:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/symbot/Cutter.jpg

[The Apothian]

I wasn't satisfied with the Indy figure. He could of been better. So thats why I am not surprised at this. Too bad for Indy but Iam glad they did get these figs out.

[YoNoSe]

It is the Jungle Cutter with KOTCS Indy and two Russian soldiers:

Ah, thanks. Glad I didn't go crazy and pull the trigger.

[jedibear]

Wandered around my area over the weekend and visited to Super WM stores within a 100 mile radius (was out enjoyin' the fall foliage)...and unlike my local small WM, which only has 6 pegs dedicated to IJ with a couple of Mutts and Ugha Warriors on them, these two stores had island displays of the first two waves OVERFLOWING with figures. They aren't going anywhere and it's doubtful that we'll ever see the TOD wave up this way, let alone the last ROTLA one.

It will always be incredible to me that Hasbro thought this line would EVER appeal to the mass-market (ie: kids)...after the initial weeks surrounding the release of KOTCS, retailers should have been able to pare down and order when needed, not be flooded with the first two waves over & over again to the point of overflow.

It's too bad....another great opportunity for collectors who have been waiting for over 25 years to see great quality IJ figures and collectibles on the market only to have the moment lost through poor planning and distribution. Is Hasbro or Lucasfilm to blame? Who knows....it'll just always be one of those "What if..." questions for collectors to ponder...

[IrishJedi]

Is Hasbro or Lucasfilm to blame?

The blame is shared 3 ways here:

Lucasfilm. For going overboard with whoring out INDY, ala STAR WARS.

Wal-Mart. For ordering INDY stock in outrageous EPISODE I-like numbers. (Incidentally, TRU hardly stocked it at all... only Target seems to have ordered and stocked the product with a sense of sanity and balance)

Hasbro. For creating odd assortments in the initial waves, and then shipping them in even more head-scratching fashion. There is simply no excuse for having a Monkey Man figure before a Toht. Ever. And every store across the country still has Mutt figures clogging the pegs thanks to Hasbro.

[devilof76]

I was so happy to see 3-packs of Indy, Mutt and Spalko at Wal-Mart this week. :acme

[hobbitjedi]

Just wanted to let everyone know to check out Meijers, I found all of the TOD wave there yesterday!

[Bonehead15]

It's "offical."

The line is dead. :(

http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=262&itemid=13574

[IrishJedi]

Here is their thinking:

Hasbro: Without a movie or entertainment backdrop to maintain kids' interest in the line, it's just not possible to maintain momentum in the intensely competitive boys' action aisle. We are extremely passionate fans of the IJ line ourselves and anticipate that the line will return if and when there is another IJ movie. Until then, the decision to rest the brand will position it for the best possible return.

[CelticPredator]

Release the last batch online....thats what they should do.

[Captain Britain]

^^^^ing arseholes.

^^^^s. They killed the most requested line ever, by being over-optimistic.

[superado]

I'm a bit slow on the uptake on what Hasbro actually stated. How does that translate into the distribution of the LC and TOD waves in terms of quantities, timeframes and stores? Considering the retailers' selection of lines and which ones pose the greatest sales potential (and therefore shelf space allowance), we've already seen them in the past year (is there any big animated film coming out soon, for example?) and there's been worse dogs than Indy.

Will not TRU and Target be ordering large quantities of these last waves for the Christmas retail season?

[icruise]

I took this picture at a local Walmart a couple of days ago. I think it says everything we need to know about what went wrong here. (On the bright side there were many Henry Jones Sr. figures, and they were all marked down to $5.44)

http://homepage.mac.com/denkinews/images/toys/indy_glut.jpg

[Kuzeh]

Yep... it's amazing, a company like Hasbro should know better by now...
literally dozens of Mutts and Bazooka Indys is just stupid...
oh well...

[thenammagazine]

If they'd had half a clue, they would've done what Mattel did with the He-Man license.

[Memnoch]

If they'd had half a clue, they would've done what Mattel did with the He-Man license.

Hasbro has neither the ***** nor intelligence to do this. They are also a HUGE big box company and if they aren't moving hundreds of thousands of units they just won't even bother with it. Hence the death of 3 3/4 Indy.

[thenammagazine]

Hasbro has neither the ***** nor intelligence to do this. They are also a HUGE big box company and if they aren't moving hundreds of thousands of units they just won't even bother with it. Hence the death of 3 3/4 Indy.

Granted, hence my "half a clue" comment. It's a shame too. Had they utilized that strategy, it could very well have had the adverse effect of fans, both new and old, demanding a retail line vs. just bombarding retail stores with toys meant for children who are a tad too young to appreciate the subject matter.

[jedibear]

.... just bombarding retail stores with toys meant for children who are a tad too young to appreciate the subject matter.

That was always the issue from the start. Who at Hasbro thought this line would be a hit with little kids?

[Bonehead15]

Hasbro has neither the ***** nor intelligence to do this. They are also a HUGE big box company and if they aren't moving hundreds of thousands of units they just won't even bother with it. Hence the death of 3 3/4 Indy.

I don't believe that HASBRO is as "big box" as you think.

In Hasbro's defense, when it comes to collectors / adult customers they are 100 x's better than Mattel. Just look at their GIJOE and Transformers Clubs. As a member of both clubs, I think they do an absolutely fantastic job.

If HASBRO was smart they'd try to do something similar with Indy. At the very least they could try and see if there is enough collector interest to even start a club.

Mattel is just starting to "hop on the bandwagon" when it comes to collectors. If it wasn't for personnel changes in their Boys division, they wouldn't even be doing a MOTU Classics line.

That was always the issue from the start. Who at Hasbro thought this line would be a hit with little kids?

That was the same question I asked to Mattel when they were doing the He-Man 2002 line. Mattel thought that the demand for He-Man and Skeletor figures from kids would be huge so they flooded the market with them. They didn't sell and the stock didn't move. Indy suffers from the same problem. :(

[thenammagazine]

I don't believe that HASBRO is as "big box" as you think.

In Hasbro's defense, when it comes to collectors / adult customers they are 100 x's better than Mattel. Just look at their GIJOE and Transformers Clubs. As a member of both clubs, I think they do an absolutely fantastic job.

If HASBRO was smart they'd try to do something similar with Indy. At the very least they could try and see if there is enough collector interest to even start a club.

Mattel is just starting to "hop on the bandwagon" when it comes to collectors. If it wasn't for personnel changes in their Boys division, they wouldn't even be doing a MOTU Classics line.

That was the same question I asked to Mattel when they were doing the He-Man 2002 line. Mattel thought that the demand for He-Man and Skeletor figures from kids would be huge so they flooded the market with them. They didn't sell and the stock didn't move. Indy suffers from the same problem. :(

I don't think that's a very good comparison at all. First off, as has Star Wars, Indiana Jones did (does?) have a fan club too. But more to my point, you're talking about G.I. Joe and Transformers. Those are lines created exclusively for and, for the most part, marketed directly at kids. Sure they have fan clubs and make fan club "exclusives," but the main line is still geared towards kids.

Indiana Jones on the other hand is a darker, more adult series. So dark, in fact, that TOD is solely responsible for the PG-13 MPAA rating. People actually die in these movies, unlike the cartoons and to be honest, not something little kids should be watching (though I'm guilty here too :lol). Anyone who's had to calm down a screaming child after the intro scene in the temple (in ROTLA) and the screaming skeletons from the Well of the Souls, will understand this. Additionally, there's also the generation gap. And it's a HUGE one.

Transformers and G.I. Joe, in one form or another have continued since their inception, and been continuously marketed toward kids. Indy, on the other hand, has never really had a real dedicated toyline and hasn't been around for 18 years. That's an entire generation. Then once he returns, Hasbro has the bright idea to create a line and market it to kids ages 3+?!

I watched a father, yesterday, in Toys'r'Us, helping his kid spend a birthday present gift card he'd gotten for his 5th birthday. In the Star Wars section, the kid didn't see anything he didn't already have or couldn't afford with the gift card. It was pretty much the same thing walking through the DC/Marvel toys (the kid hated Transformers, but still knew who they were). When they got to Indiana Jones, the dad was blown away. He'd seen the movie but didn't know they made toys of Indy. Then, after passing most of the action figures and nearly to the Hot Wheels, he picked up a "whip action" Indy from a shelf literally spilling over with unsold Indy goodies and eagerly handed him to his son. "Andrew, what about Indy?" The kid's reply, "Who's that old guy supposed to be?"

That, in a nutshell, is why the line failed.

[CelticPredator]

People die in Star Wars too....many in violent manners.

[choopie]

The Indy franchise was always more adult-oriented, but did appeal to kids back then because of its close release with SW. I saw Raiders when I was 10 and fell in love with it. Why? Because the hero was Han Solo and he was coming fresh off of Empire. But now, how could anyone expect a kid to know anything about Indiana Jones when the last movie came out nearly 20 years ago and nothing in the way of toys or collectibles since ToD? That's why Lucas hired some young, hip actor to play Indy's son and why Hasbro shoved Mutts down our throats -- both were banking on Shia's popularity to bring in the kids, and it didn't work.

Hasbro should never have gotten the license to Indy merchandise, IMO.

[agent5]

They always seem to pick one or two characters to sell the line, whatever it is. With Star Wars it was Maul, Jango and then Grievous. All had pretty limited screen time compared to other main characters but that's what they set as a standard for appeal. Mutt did not work at all. You can see their Indy4 marketing ploy blown to pieces as there are more Mutt figures on pegs now than ever. Kids just didn't buy it, literally and figuratively, as already pointed out. Indy was too old for kids and Mutt just wasn't a draw for them. I wish they would have released them all in lower numbers for their main base (collectors) and if the line did well just increase production to meet the demand. Don't know if that's feasible for them to do but it makes sense to me.

[thenammagazine]

They always seem to pick one or two characters to sell the line, whatever it is. With Star Wars it was Maul, Jango and then Grievous. All had pretty limited screen time compared to other main characters but that's what they set as a standard for appeal. Mutt did not work at all. You can see their Indy4 marketing ploy blown to pieces as there are more Mutt figures on pegs now than ever. Kids just didn't buy it, literally and figuratively, as already pointed out. Indy was too old for kids and Mutt just wasn't a draw for them. I wish they would have released them all in lower numbers for their main base (collectors) and if the line did well just increase production to meet the demand. Don't know if that's feasible for them to do but it makes sense to me.

I can see the whole Mutt angle. Especially with Shia being "Hollywood Hot" right now. But as far as figures, while Mutt is still a pegwarmer, I see more of bazooka Indy in my toy stores. Hell, to be honest, I actually see most of the ROTLA and TLC line there. But hey, let's hope they release another film like Harrison keeps talking about. That might be just what this line needs to make it feasible again.

[agent5]

I'm all for a new film is it brings me more sweet Raiders items as the last film has. I wasn't fond of Indy 4 at all until I started watching it with my son on dvd repeatedly. The more I watch the more I enjoy it and the dumb stuff becomes more tolerable, as was the same with the last 3 Star Wars films. Hell, even if they decide to do another film it's still years away. I just wish Hasbro would continue to line in much smaller numbers but as has been pointed out they don't seem to interested in that. :gun

My local Target just got in the full LC wave this moring so I picked up a Henry, Elsa and Vogel for my son for Christmas. They were all on sale too. :chew

[thenammagazine]

I'm all for a new film is it brings me more sweet Raiders items as the last film has. I wasn't fond of Indy 4 at all until I started watching it with my son on dvd repeatedly. The more I watch the more I enjoy it and the dumb stuff becomes more tolerable, as was the same with the last 3 Star Wars films. Hell, even if they decide to do another film it's still years away. I just wish Hasbro would continue to line in much smaller numbers but as has been pointed out they don't seem to interested in that. :gun

My local Target just got in the full LC wave this moring so I picked up a Henry, Elsa and Vogel for my son for Christmas. They were all on sale too. :chew

And no doubt, with your admitted "obsession," your kid actually knows who that old guy's supposed to be! :rotfl I'm just as guilty. My daughter definitely knows who "Indy Jones" is. :lol

[agent5]

Oh, yes he does. As with Star Wars he loves them in the reverse order of which they were released. To him, the newer the better. It was funny though, when I showed him the first pic of Indy from the new film he said, "Dad, he looks so old". :rotfl He has no idea that Ford is in incredible shape for a guy his age. Better than me, thats for damn sure.

[thenammagazine]

Oh, yes he does. As with Star Wars he loves them in the reverse order of which they were released. To him, the newer the better. It was funny though, when I showed him the first pic of Indy from the new film he said, "Dad, he looks so old". :rotfl He has no idea that Ford is in incredible shape for a guy his age. Better than me, thats for damn sure.

Yup. Hope I'm in as great a shape when I'm 60+. I had some fun with his age though in an earlier thread, the new Indy movie's title:

INDIANA JONES:
And the Curse of Osteoperosis


Temple Interior: Day

We're inside a mystic viking temple deep in the heart of Iceland. It's cold and a thick sheen of ice covers most of the stones on the walls, ceiling and floor, making it hard to walk. A massive pit has just opened up in front of our hero, Indiana Jones and his co-adventurer/wife, Marian Ravenwood Jones. Indy, after almost falling in and rotating his arms in circles to maintain his balance on the lip of the pit, passes the torch to Marian and holsters his revolver. To cover the distance, Indy heroically pulls his whip and unleashes it's leather fury on an overhung root. We hear a loud thunderclap that reverberates throughout the cavern.

Marian looks around distraught fearing the cave is beginning to collapse.

Marian Ravenwood Jones
"Indy? Is the tunnel gonna cave in?"

Indy grimaces, trying to front the massive amount of pain...

Indiana Jones
"That wasn't the tunnel sweetheart, it was my hip!"

[Bonehead15]

I don't think that's a very good comparison at all. First off, as has Star Wars, Indiana Jones did (does?) have a fan club too. But more to my point, you're talking about G.I. Joe and Transformers. Those are lines created exclusively for and, for the most part, marketed directly at kids. Sure they have fan clubs and make fan club "exclusives," but the main line is still geared towards kids.

Indiana Jones on the other hand is a darker, more adult series. So dark, in fact, that TOD is solely responsible for the PG-13 MPAA rating. People actually die in these movies, unlike the cartoons and to be honest, not something little kids should be watching (though I'm guilty here too :lol). Anyone who's had to calm down a screaming child after the intro scene in the temple (in ROTLA) and the screaming skeletons from the Well of the Souls, will understand this. Additionally, there's also the generation gap. And it's a HUGE one.


You misunderstood my post.

I wasn't comparing the lines to each other at all. My point was that Hasbro does do a great job on catering to collectors needs. I used the Transformers and GIJOE Collector Clubs as examples.

Yes Indy does have a Lucasfilm based fan club but no toy fan club. I was trying to say that since Indy is a heavy collector based line that it would be a shame if Hasbro didn't try to see if there was any interest in a toy based fanclub like their TF and GIJOE clubs. I still don't buy the BS line that Hasbro can't find any way that's profitable to release those last few waves. Either through their website, a fan club, or even store exclusives.

Also, Transformers the movie (2007) was just as dark as the last Indy film was. There was just as much violence in TFs as in KOTCS. TF had one of the heroes literaly ripped in two. That pretty violent in my book.


For the record, characters do die in Star Wars and Transformers. :monkey3
I still remember all of the protests from angry parents when Optimus Prime died in TF:the movie.

Everybody does seem to live forever in GIJOE. :lol I'll give you that one.

[IrishJedi]

Everybody does seem to live forever in GIJOE. :lol I'll give you that one.

Not in the original Marvel Comics series by Larry Hama that actually came BEFORE the inferior animated show. :lecture There were actually many deaths in that series and it was quite violent at times (especially for a Marvel book in the early/mid 80s). It's what actually got me into the toys back in '82/'83.

[thenammagazine]

Also, Transformers the movie (2007) was just as dark as the last Indy film was. There was just as much violence in TFs as in KOTCS. TF had one of the heroes literaly ripped in two. That pretty violent in my book.


For the record, characters do die in Star Wars and Transformers. :monkey3
I still remember all of the protests from angry parents when Optimus Prime died in TF:the movie.

Everybody does seem to live forever in GIJOE. :lol I'll give you that one.

You forget one very important thing. Transformers are robots. There's a huge level of disassociation there. Especially by MPAA standards. Saying a robot being torn in half is the same thing as seeing someone impaled through the head by an arrow is so absurd as to be almost laughable.

But back to the main discussion, no, I don't have to give Hasbro any credit for the Indy line. They marketed it completely wrong and to the wrong people. As I said before, they should've just done the line like Mattel is doing with their new He-Man line. They would not only have ensured the longevity of the franchise, but also have quite possibly built a bigger audience in doing so.

[Kuzeh]

I just got my TOD wave, amazing figures, too bad Hasbro killed the line...
I hate that we'll never see Toth, white suit Belloq, white dress Marion, German mechanic, Cairo suit Sallah, etc...
oh well,
I'm just missing the only Mutt I want:

http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/Files_Main/4061011a9ce7_Main400.jpg

Then I'm done with this line...

[DarthNeil]

I just got my TOD wave, amazing figures, too bad Hasbro killed the line...
I hate that we'll never see Toth, white suit Belloq, white dress Marion, German mechanic, Cairo suit Sallah, etc...
oh well,
I'm just missing the only Mutt I want:

http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/Files_Main/4061011a9ce7_Main400.jpg

Then I'm done with this line...

I snagged two of this guy a couple of weeks ago-- one remains unopened.:naughty

[doesitmatter]

I just got my TOD wave, amazing figures, too bad Hasbro killed the line...
I hate that we'll never see Toth, white suit Belloq, white dress Marion, German mechanic, Cairo suit Sallah, etc...
oh well,
I'm just missing the only Mutt I want:

http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/Files_Main/4061011a9ce7_Main400.jpg

Then I'm done with this line...

He's available at Hasbrotoyshop.com

[IrishJedi]

I still don't have any of the TOD figures. :huh

[kl241]

Try hitting the Kroger stores like Ralph's and King Soopers, they are turning up there.

[IrishJedi]

Really? Grocery stores? We have Kroger stores here.

[CelticPredator]

Try hitting the Kroger stores like Ralph's and King Soopers, they are turning up there.

OMG NO WAI!

I live near a King Stupid! I'm going tomorrow! :D

[kl241]

Yeah I know, I was really surprised about it. I hit my local Ralph's and they had a bunch of harder to find G.I. Joe figs like Snow Serpent, they also had a lot of Star Wars and Indy figs. I guess Indy figs are showing up in the grocery stores because Kroger made a deal with Hasbro. Let me know if you find the Doom figs...

[DarthNeil]

Well, with this line going the way of the dodo and the figs being tossed into clearance bins I thought this might be as good a time as any to say sayonara Indy... We hardly knew ya.

Here's the complete 3 3/4 collection (minus a certain cranky Senior who's on the way-- thanks Josh).

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2923/dsc05034kc0.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05034kc0.jpg)

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2057/dsc05035ua8.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05035ua8.jpg)

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6718/dsc05036xz0.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05036xz0.jpg)

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9145/dsc05037xc2.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05037xc2.jpg)

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3249/dsc05038yg2.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05038yg2.jpg)

[Darth Waller]

That's a nice looking collection you have. It's a shame Indy Hasbro line didn't go well because I thought they got off to a great start.

[DarthNeil]

Only things I really wished they would have done if this line was only going to get one wave for each movie:

1) Toht rather than Monkey Man
2) An Indy in tux from the beginning of ToD
3) A Nazi soldier rather than the Grail Knight
4) A Mac, Ox, and Marion (one or more should have been packed with the temple environment thus ensuring that collectors would buy it--- rather than the included Indy and warriors).

Overall though I'm glad they released what they did. At least we finally got those for our collections.

[Darth Waller]

Yep, not making Toht was a huge mistake.

[Billy Ray]

Yeah, the absence of Toht really makes the line feel incomplete. Apparently the reason we didn't get him in the first waves was because he was slated as a part of a planned "Vintage Style" wave, packaged on the old style cards like the "Vintage Style" Star Wars figures. That idea was scrapped and he got pushed back the second wave of Raiders figures which was supposed to some out after the Temple of Doom wave in 09...but sadly got canned along with the entire line.

I've managed to get the whole 3 3/4" line with the exception of the cloth canopy truck (which I don't want) and am very happy with what we did get, but saddened by all that was ahead that we may never see...like the Raiders wave 2 and other things Hasbro alluded to like a Flying Wing. Someone on the Raider.net forums saw a shelf tag at Wal-Mart that said "Deluxe Short Round with Mine Cart" the other day! Man, what might have been....

[thenammagazine]

:monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2
http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/products/4066720f8297_Main400.jpg

[meanstreak]

I'm new here, but I just wanted to add to the legion... I really wanted that last Raiders wave. Toht looked like he would be PERFECT and that Marion looked like it could make me forgive Hasbro for her first release... :(

[DarthNeil]

Well again (now that Henry Sr. has finally arrived [thanks The Josh]-- and then the next week I find four of them :banghead in the clearance bin) here's a sad goodbye to what was a great line.

All four waves (plus some customs).

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6456/dsc05060ek5.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05060ek5.jpg)

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4123/dsc05061hx2.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05061hx2.jpg)

Prof. Jones Jr. giving a lecture about the Ark of the Covenant.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5011/dsc05062gp3.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05062gp3.jpg)

My favourite wave (TOD)-- sadly the last but glad I found them in the clearance bin so I didn't get scalped on e-bay (even found mutiple "army" doubles to back up Mola)

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/509/dsc05063he0.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05063he0.jpg)

[jedibear]

Man o man, I hope I cross paths with that TOD wave someday...set-up looks great! Should've picked up that Akator playset when I saw it for clearance...makes a good display for the collection...
Here's my current display...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3310/3260249299_2a82b0c6fb_o.jpg

[shaun-o]

TOD wave available at Indiana Jones Shop:
http://shop.indianajones.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=1222594;category_id=408112; pcid1=;pcid2=

[icruise]

Thanks, but it's kind of hard to stomach paying $83.99 + shipping for those, considering that half of the figures in the wave are clearance fodder going for $1 to $3 apiece now. It's like paying $14+ apiece for a complete set of the TOD figures. :(

[DarthNeil]

Man o man, I hope I cross paths with that TOD wave someday...set-up looks great! Should've picked up that Akator playset when I saw it for clearance...makes a good display for the collection...
Here's my current display...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3310/3260249299_2a82b0c6fb_o.jpg

I like your setup too JB.

Did you never get the jungle cutter either?... It makes for a nice display piece with the Reds.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6718/dsc05036xz0.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05036xz0.jpg)

By the way, I got my 12" Dovchenko today from BBTS and it's a really great 1/6 representation. He should go well with the Medi KOTCS Indy.

[shaun-o]

Thanks, but it's kind of hard to stomach paying $83.99 + shipping for those, considering that half of the figures in the wave are clearance fodder going for $1 to $3 apiece now. It's like paying $14+ apiece for a complete set of the TOD figures. :(

I hear you. I think this is the cheapest way to get them now though without luckily stumbling upon them somewhere. Entertainment Earth has them on back order for 89.99 + shipping and Brian's toys is selling only the TOD set for $124. or $119. + shipping for the case.:monkey2 I know I'm tired of the local brick and mortar store hunt.
stupid hasblo...canceling the line:monkey3

[mildoo]

Cool display JEdiBear!

[Wor-Gar]

These displays do not count... there is NO TOHT!!!


j/k

Great displays. Even without the little man.

[CelticPredator]

I'm trying to make a Toht...but 'is hard. Yeah.

Any good base figures?

[Wor-Gar]

I'm trying to make a Toht...but 'is hard. Yeah.

Any good base figures?

Buy the original Kenner Toht from 1981. I think they're still pretty cheap on ebay. Could work with a repaint. Maybe. Better than nothing.

[CelticPredator]

I'd rather have nothing. :lol

I'll figure it out. Hasbros making a Gambit figure, perhaps i'll use the coat or something.

[Buttmunch]

I'm trying to make a Toht...but 'is hard. Yeah.

Any good base figures?

SDCC Suit Cobra Commander perhaps?

[thenammagazine]

SDCC Suit Cobra Commander perhaps?

Only if you're name is Corky or Daddy Warbucks. :p

[jus]

The SDCC Cobra Commander and the unreleased Toht figure use the same body sculpt, right down to the swastika pin (left blank on Cobra Commander, natch). Dig up the pics from the Hasbro SDCC Indy presentation and compare.

[stickman]

The SDCC Cobra Commander and the unreleased Toht figure use the same body sculpt, right down to the swastika pin (left blank on Cobra Commander, natch). Dig up the pics from the Hasbro SDCC Indy presentation and compare.

Wow, I never knew that. Here's a picture of my CC in black suit. I always thought that the pin was to be placed on the tie, I never saw it placed anywhere else. I really need to watch Raiders again sometime soon. I only have it on VHS. :cool:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/IMG_7414.jpg

[DarthNeil]

Man, I just loved this line (after waiting the 20+ years for them to release something worthwhile). :monkey2

Hemble, what could you do with these? :D

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/65/dscf1073o.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/dscf1073o.jpg/)

[ortiz344]

i really hate that not only did the line die too early (thanks lousy distribution), but the TOD wave never really hit anywhere. Sure, some people got lucky and found them, but now im stuck dropping 20- a fig if i want any of them(and im an avid collector-its not like they showed in my area and i missed them-they never made it)...and to top it off, they still had a bunch of good characters they could have made...what a waste...

[hunnipot85]

They said the line would resume if Indy 5 was to be announced, Shia said it was coming. If so, you'll get the second Raiders wave and probably some new movie figs. Hopefully with better distribution the line can survive longer to delve into other characters and outfits.

[Captain Britain]

Man, I just loved this line (after waiting the 20+ years for them to release something worthwhile). :monkey2

Hemble, what could you do with these? :D

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/65/dscf1073o.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/dscf1073o.jpg/)

Great picture - really captures 'The World of Indy'.

[Bardoon]

No surprise, it's hard to sell figures besides Indiana Jones.

[Memnoch]

Back from the dead! Reports say that Indy figures are back at Hasbros booth this year, slated for video game packs. Toht, Ark Spirt and Dietrich are being shown.

Pics: http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss44/jcazale/img-h23457.png
http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss44/jcazale/img-h23460.png

[choopie]

I hope these actually make it to store shelves. Given the fast one Hasbro pulled on us last SDCC by displaying figures that were never released, I'm hesitant to get overly excited about this.

Love Toht though! He'll probably be one per case.

[Memnoch]

Here is what we BETTER see. Toht and Dietrich, Marion and Suited Belloq, Indy and Mechanic, German Indy and German Soldier.. anything beyond that is gravy.

[MANDO]

What videogame would these tie in with? The rerelease of the Lego one? Regardless I'd be interested in a few if they actually are released. Wouldn't mind seeing the Temple ones either.

[choopie]

Here is what we BETTER see. Toht and Dietrich, Marion and Suited Belloq, Indy and Mechanic, German Indy and German Soldier.. anything beyond that is gravy.

Yeah, I'd be happy with that. What we got from ToD and TLC I'm pretty satisfied with. I'd like to see the ToD wave get a wider release though, for those folks who missed out.

[meanstreak]

^^^^ yes. I needed that Toht!

Now give us a better sculpted Indy (which looks like Harrison), Marion in her white dress, and another Belloq.

[DarthNeil]

Back from the dead! Reports say that Indy figures are back at Hasbros booth this year, slated for video game packs. Toht, Ark Spirt and Dietrich are being shown.

Pics: http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss44/jcazale/img-h23457.png
http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss44/jcazale/img-h23460.png

Pictures not being shown... got a link?

[thenammagazine]

Prototypes look nice. So did the TODs. So does 90% of the clearanced Indy stuff at TRU (Target and Walmart have since ridden themselves of everything but the Legos). I'll wait until we actually see them on store shelves (specialty or not) to get excited. ATM this is nothing more than hot steam.

[Memnoch]

They're from a photobucket (not mine). I still see them though..

[DarthNeil]

They're from a photobucket (not mine). I still see them though..

Hmmm.. Odd... I'm not seeing them.

[hunnipot85]

I hope the original photographer doesn't mind, I hosted on my photobucket for everyone to see.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm147/hunnipot85/img-h23457.png
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm147/hunnipot85/img-h23460.png

[doesitmatter]

Here is what we BETTER see. Toht and Dietrich, Marion and Suited Belloq, Indy and Mechanic, German Indy and German Soldier.. anything beyond that is gravy.

They also had Satipo sculpted. Someone found a prototype of the tough german from the truck scene. There were also rumors of a Club Obi-Wan wave. Don't know if that ever made it to sculpt.

But I'll take anything and everything I can get.

[DarthNeil]

Thanks. :D

[meanstreak]

I remember the second raiders wave being Indy (German disguise), Marion (white dress), Satipo, Big German and Toht. Was there anyone else?

[doesitmatter]

Nope, it was those five.

On one of the other boards they think they see the big sherpa with flames on his sleeve. There could be more waves.

[kl241]

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm147/hunnipot85/img-h23460.png

Amazing how Hasbro can give us Toht with screen accurate glasses instead of the Harry Potter ones SS gave theirs.

[Kuzeh]

Are you serious??!!!
Wohoooo!!!
That would be amazing if the line is back indeed!!

[choopie]

I hope someone at SDCC asks Hasbro if they are really going to release these and if production is in full swing again. I'd like to know their plans based on what we are seeing so far and if it's going to go beyond what is just being shown.

Funny, this seems to be generating more buzz than Sideshow's stuff, ATM.

[Sir Tristram]

Well, it looks like they are saying that it is a video game tie-in.

Interesting. Why can't they just release indiana Jones figures and call it what they are?

[kl241]

Well, it looks like they are saying that it is a video game tie-in.

Interesting. Why can't they just release indiana Jones figures and call it what they are?

Because Hasbro is under the misguided notion that toys only sell if they have a multimedia tie-in. They originally said they wouldn't release these unless there was another IJ movie OR some kind of media tie-in. Looks like they found one.

[ortiz344]

Well, it looks like they are saying that it is a video game tie-in.

Interesting. Why can't they just release indiana Jones figures and call it what they are?

they can call it whatever they like, just make the damn figs ;)

[DarthNeil]

Make them for their true market-- collectors. Kids don't buy these things enough to make them viable. Offer them on the website to collectors and go on to make Indy 3 3/4 figs for the next several years...

[the vampire with soul]

what video game are they tie-in for??

[Sir Tristram]

what video game are they tie-in for??

he new one for Wii?

Or maybe something forthcoming next year since these are not hitting until next Jan/Feb

[Captain Britain]

Maybe it's some old game that's being rereleased with the figures? Most 2 figure tie ins (comic packs, dvd packs) sell the figures around 'old' product.

[Kuzeh]

they can call it whatever they like, just make the damn figs ;)

:lecture
They can call it "Nazi Soldiers in Drag" for all I care!
As long as they're out!!!

Check this:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/inky_skin/img-h23458.png

And what about this:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//500/indydesktop.jpg

Found it on the Raven...

[FLOSI]

All the customs I made might have Hasbro counterparts now. This is great news!

[Kuzeh]

All the customs I made might have Hasbro counterparts now. This is great news!
Dude,
please share some pics!!

[Memnoch]

Title of the thread is funny now since the line is back from the "dead". ZOMBIE!

[Kuzeh]

Yes... change it to NOT,
like the Muppet line one... :lol

[thenammagazine]

Title of the thread is funny now since the line is back from the "dead". ZOMBIE!

Not until we hold something in our hands it's not. For now, let's just stare at it with a gun trained for the headshot. :lol

[FLOSI]

Dude,
please share some pics!!

They're nothing special. Just a Toht from a SDCC Cobra Comander, a German Bike with Sidecar and a German Indy that I never even bothered completing the front pouches on. I'll try to post when I get home... If I can find the box they're in. After a month in our new house I just managed to get all my 12" figures unpacked.... And it's not as if my collection is huge at around 30 pieces.

[Memnoch]

Not until we hold something in our hands it's not. For now, let's just stare at it with a gun trained for the headshot. :lol

:lol :rotfl :lol Best post of the day.

[Billy Ray]

Wow, Hasbro actually got Toht's pistol (Walther P-38) correct! Can't say the same for Sideshow. Really excited about the prospect of more Hasbro Indy figures, can't wait to see more pics and get the scoop on the whole "Classic Video Game 2-Packs" thing.

[Captain Britain]

I think I saw a headpiece to the Staff of Ra there too.

[the vampire with soul]

Title of the thread is funny now since the line is back from the "dead". ZOMBIE!

Hey I would play that..:whipIndian Jones and the Curse Of The Nazi zombies!!!...:gunhell there's your next moive:D

[DarthNeil]

Thread title (optimistically) changed...

[bmarz1000]

A few years back Hasbro released some Star Wars exclusives for the Star Wars DVD and video game releases. They didn't pack in the figures with the games/movies, it was a cross promotion in separate packaging. I think that's the direction they are going in with these figures. Perhaps they will offer promotional, two packs for $14.99 to coincide with new or reissued video game releases at Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, TRU exclusives. If major retailers like these buy into a line as exclusives they could resurrect the line.

[Shropt]

Indiana Jones collectibles don't sell.

[JGouse0498]

Indiana Jones collectibles don't sell.

Poorly-made Indiana Jones collectibles don't sell.

[kl241]

Poorly-made Indiana Jones collectibles don't sell.

Well somewhere in So-Cal there's a warehouse full of Arks, Belloqs and soon a bunch of fridges.

http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/info_and_tech/assets/raiders_book_warehouse.jpg

[bmarz1000]

Yes, and those didn't sell because they were poorly made, badly sculpted, or too expensive for what they were. Not because they were Indiana Jones. Obviously, there's interest if we're on an Indiana Jones forum talking about it. It's great for collectors; It's just not a mass-retail line.

[the vampire with soul]

any news on these at SDCC???:confused:

[Pitfall Harry]

Apparently, from what I've heard elsewhere , this was all a big hoax. The pictures released could have been done by someone trying to mess with the Indy Fans out there. This hasn't been confirmed but several people have noticed other figure parts used on the figures shown in the pictures.

I haven't heard of anyone that attended comic con seeing these figures in person....Hasbro did NOT have them on display.

[meanstreak]

that ^^^^in sucks :(

[choopie]

Yeah, if it is a hoax, whether by Hasbro or some customizer, it really is an awful prank to play. Somebody has way too much time on his hands.

[Memnoch]

I'd say it is a hoax. Funny thing is when looking at that Ark ghost I really thought I saw a Palpatine hood. Guess I did.

[mfisher]

yup.. this stuff stirred up a hornets nest of accusations and insults over at the raven.net boards... from what I gather this was, in fact, a hoax... too bad... mre 3 3/4 figures would have been fun...

[kl241]

So the title of this thread needs to be changed back to "officially DEAD"

[RichAlot]

Sure got my hopes up :(

[mfisher]

So the title of this thread needs to be changed back to "officially DEAD"

From what I gather, the organs have been removed and the embalming fluids have been pumped in... they are just waiting to plant the body in the hole now....

[thenammagazine]

Apparently, from what I've heard elsewhere , this was all a big hoax. The pictures released could have been done by someone trying to mess with the Indy Fans out there. This hasn't been confirmed but several people have noticed other figure parts used on the figures shown in the pictures.

I haven't heard of anyone that attended comic con seeing these figures in person....Hasbro did NOT have them on display.

Not trying to start a fire with wet wood, but that's not exactly uncommon for Hasbro. They've done it repeatedly in the past and are doing it now with Star Wars, G.I. Joe and the Marvel figures too. That said, I still stand by my original "I'll believe it when physically I see it."

[Pitfall Harry]

It's pretty much been confirmed now that the whole thing was a hoax done by some goober with to much time on their hands. Someone who likes screwing around with the Indy Fans.

[Kuzeh]

Wow... that's ^^^^ed up...
Hasbro didn't have an Indy display...
What a douche...

[Bardoon]

Not surprised...it's hard to sell an action figure line based on ONE character.

[Buttmunch]

Not surprised...it's hard to sell an action figure line based on ONE character.

Batman seems to do just fine.

[DarthNeil]

Batman seems to do just fine.

Yes, but they do rainbow versions. :D

http://www.batman-toys.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/batman-action-figures-300x300.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vCqNV5lcY48/SblvtplpTOI/AAAAAAAAArw/qlLD1UBSRPM/s400/batman-slolomracertoy.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2kjisMm3M9Y/SWoFnlBMazI/AAAAAAAAHlY/oi09muLnfeM/s400/Super+Saber+Batman.jpg

Just some examples... :monkey1:lol

[D. Martin]

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/2009/Hasbro-RocketCrusaderIndy.jpg

We weren't supposed to show this until Hasbro officially launched the Indy Raiders Adventure Team collection, but since the cat's out of the bag...

[Deak Starkiller]

:lol Nice.

[dwing]

Would'nt be suprised.

[the vampire with soul]

:rotfl:rotfl:gun:rotfl:rotfl:whip that was to funny

[mfisher]

Village People Indy w/ supa' bazooka

[choopie]

Rumor has it that LEGO is discontinuing their Indy line. I was waiting for this to happen. So now there's what, Diamond and Sideshow left?

[the vampire with soul]

Rumor has it that LEGO is discontinuing their Indy line. I was waiting for this to happen. So now there's what, Diamond and Sideshow left?

you say Sideshow like it a bad thing:confused:....the lego line was cool but just to cute but the game was good.

[meanstreak]

Is the temple escape set still coming out? If not i'm sure tons of people will be pissed.

[Captain Britain]

Is the temple escape set still coming out? If not i'm sure tons of people will be pissed.

It's out in the UK.

[Bardoon]

Batman seems to do just fine.

Yeah but Batman is more deeply embedded into American culture and has been a familiar brand with generations for YEARS. More kids recognize Batman more so than they do Indiana Jones. And of course more people can name Batman's supporting characters than they can Indiana Jones'. Comparing them is really like comparing a mountain and a mole hill.

I really did not see this line lasting that long at all. I love Indy and I'm glad he "came back" but I'm not surprised at the direction his merchandise has gone.

[thenammagazine]

you say Sideshow like it a bad thing:confused:....the lego line was cool but just to cute but the game was good.

I think it reads more like frustration. Everybody and their grandmother is canceling their Indy licenses instead of rethinking their marketing strategies.

[the vampire with soul]

what's the temple escape set?? TOD Or KOTCS???

[agent5]

It's the Temple from the beginning of Raiders. The only TOD sets are the Shanghai Surprise and the new Temple of Doom tunnel set

[Deak Starkiller]

Rumor has it that LEGO is discontinuing their Indy line. I was waiting for this to happen. So now there's what, Diamond and Sideshow left?

That is an unsubstantiated rumor at this point, trust me. :gun

[choopie]

That is an unsubstantiated rumor at this point, trust me. :gun

Well, I hope it isn't true, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is. I only have one Indy LEGO set so far, but would like to nab a few others, and there still are some fun sets LEGO could make.

And yeah, my original comment was out of disappointment that companies are dropping the Indy license like flies, even though they've indicated at some point that the line was doing well.

I'll thank Sideshow again for sticking with this line and continuing to give us some great collectibles, because when it's all said and done, they'll be the only ones left.

[DinoLast]

I wonder how many things this guy snapped up before Hasbro canceled the line ?
http://oswcc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/hf.jpg

[alcalc]

Interesting ... didn't know he was a fan!

[Batfreak]

man that is such a great shot. buying stuff with your (young) face on it. just wow. he must feel like a god. i think i rmmeber reading something how ford was even shocked how big the the promotion for the movie was when he saw his face on cereal.

[Wor-Gar]

http://oswcc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/hf.jpg

What was once, is not now.

[CelticPredator]

Interesting ... didn't know he was a fan!

He's not. That was for his kid.

Also....that would've been hilarious to watch Harrison Ford buy Indy toys. :lol

[Memnoch]

If he did indeed actually buy them himself I dont think I could have helped but ask, "Don't they GIVE you this stuff?"

[Wor-Gar]

He's not. That was for his kid.

Stranger still: Buying toys of yourself for your kid.