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wofford29
09-25-2008, 04:20 PM
As with any list it's an interesting read with some solid choices, puzzling choices, and choices that make you say huh.

http://www.empireonline.com/500/1.asp

wofford29
09-25-2008, 04:24 PM
I'm glad to finally see a list that doesn't have Citizen Kane or Gone With the Wind in the top 3.

uscmhicks
09-25-2008, 04:30 PM
yeah. great list. I'm happy to see jaws and raiders where they are.
Just for anyone who may be interested or willing to help me out I am looking for the Leon cover to empires new magazine.

http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42046

Malice
09-25-2008, 04:36 PM
nice list mate!

wofford29
09-25-2008, 04:37 PM
lol, I can think of a few people who won't be able to hold back comment on #15.

I'm glad to see #14 "Once Upon A Time in The West" ranked so high. I've always thought it was the best western ever made.

uscmhicks
09-25-2008, 04:43 PM
Oh my god , wofford your a god.
I just realized through that link to there a official site they were selling all the individual covers. I got my Leon cover !

* attempts the moonwalk and fails *

Thanks man ! :rock

wofford29
09-25-2008, 04:43 PM
awesome man. congrats.

-Super Hans-
09-25-2008, 04:44 PM
i would have said star wars as number 1. godfather was good but it wasnt groundbreakingly awesome

wofford29
09-25-2008, 04:46 PM
i would have said star wars as number 1. godfather was good but it wasnt groundbreakingly awesome

I wouldn't have had Star Wars in my top 10:monkey1

Avfin
09-25-2008, 04:49 PM
Good list
I did not see Kung Fu Panda

IronFingaz
09-25-2008, 04:51 PM
lol, I can think of a few people who won't be able to hold back comment on #15.

I'm glad to see #14 "Once Upon A Time in The West" ranked so high. I've always thought it was the best western ever made.

1. I was surprised by that too. It's a great movie but a #15 spot?

2. Your not alone on that one. It's my all-time favorite western :rock :rock :rock

But there were a few choices that i was really surprised to even see on the list and these were four of them. The Godfather Part III #282, Layer Cake #276, School Of Rock #188, Casino Royale #56. SOR and CR, i guess, could be on the list but in the 490's. Not all the way up there.

uscmhicks
09-25-2008, 04:51 PM
I wouldn't have had Star Wars in my top 10:monkey1

:rotfl Aliens needs to be in the top ten ... or alien.

Bannister
09-25-2008, 04:52 PM
I love Anchorman, but that movie belongs nowhere near as high as it is on that list.:lol:lol:lol

wofford29
09-25-2008, 05:04 PM
I love Anchorman, but that movie belongs nowhere near as high as it is on that list.:lol:lol:lol

What number is it? I'd rank it high on a comedy list.

Bannister
09-25-2008, 05:06 PM
What number is it? I'd rank it high on a comedy list.

In the 110's. I forget the exact number.

wofford29
09-25-2008, 05:08 PM
:lol I might rank it in the 100s. Lord knows I've watched enough times.

scubasteve
09-25-2008, 06:28 PM
Godfather really is the greatest film of all time.

Glad to see Casino Royale on there. #56

Dr.Mirakle32
09-25-2008, 06:59 PM
It's insulting how low Ben Hur is on the list.

IrishJedi
09-25-2008, 07:22 PM
It's insulting how low Ben Hur is on the list.

Indeed. And SCHINDLER'S LIST at #44.

Those (and tons more) make #15 even more :lol :lol :lol :lol :rolleyes:

CelticPredator
09-25-2008, 07:23 PM
Why is The Godfather always one? Yes....I just said that.

IrishJedi
09-25-2008, 07:24 PM
GODFATHER Part II is the best film in that series.

Where is CASABLANCA on the list?

plasmid303
09-25-2008, 07:25 PM
The whole list is fairly ridiculous. Time tested classics placed higher than movies that haven't been out more than a few years?

Anchorman in the top 100's? Placing lower than greats like Rushmore?! School of Rock is in the top 200's...

It's all subjective, but I still hate lists like this. And considering the size and breadth of choices here, hey coulda thrown in a kitchen sink while they were at it.

IrishJedi
09-25-2008, 07:28 PM
Just found CASABLANCA... at #18.

OMG.... LAWRENCE OF ARABIA is #57!!!

SEVEN SAMURAI #50?!?!??! :rolleyes:

This list is a total joke. Putting TDK at #15 solidifies it as either that or a stunt to generate debate. It's like a bunch of tweeners made it up. :lol

TheObsoleteMan
09-25-2008, 07:31 PM
I only checked out 1-100... Lawrence of Arabia at #57? Behind Casino Royale and Evil Dead 2?!

The Dark Knight at #15?

And I love Raiders of the Lost Ark as much as the next guy, but #2? Come one now.

TheObsoleteMan
09-25-2008, 07:32 PM
Just found CASABLANCA... at #18.

OMG.... LAWRENCE OF ARABIA is #57!!!

SEVEN SAMURAI #50?!?!??! :rolleyes:

This list is a total joke. Putting TDK at #15 solidifies it as either that or a stunt to generate debate. It's like a bunch of tweeners made it up. :lol

Talk to me, brother.

The Tuggernaut
09-25-2008, 07:33 PM
Predator at #366? ... :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

IrishJedi
09-25-2008, 07:33 PM
They should call this list "The Top 500 Films Of All Time List From Fanboys Pretending To Be Cinema Buffs" :lol

CelticPredator
09-25-2008, 07:36 PM
I'd put Dark Knight in my top 10. It was just really ^^^^ing good......sorry people enjoyed it so much.

Bannister
09-25-2008, 07:38 PM
I was surprised how close together all LOTR films were. I was glad that Fellowship was ranked the highest.

TheObsoleteMan
09-25-2008, 07:40 PM
The Dark Knight was a fine movie, but better than The Third Man and Casablanca? Not even close.

scubasteve
09-25-2008, 07:40 PM
They should call this list "The Top 500 Films Of All Time List From Fanboys Pretending To Be Cinema Buffs" :lol

Like you? :monkey3

And School of Rock doesn't belong anywhere near that list.

IrishJedi
09-25-2008, 07:40 PM
I'd put Dark Knight in my top 10. It was just really ^^^^ing good......sorry people enjoyed it so much.

You really need to see more movies if you truly think TDK is one of the 10 best films ever made.

Ven
09-25-2008, 07:41 PM
Just found CASABLANCA... at #18.

OMG.... LAWRENCE OF ARABIA is #57!!!

SEVEN SAMURAI #50?!?!??! :rolleyes:

This list is a total joke. Putting TDK at #15 solidifies it as either that or a stunt to generate debate. It's like a bunch of tweeners made it up. :lol

and they hit their target.

IrishJedi
09-25-2008, 07:41 PM
Like you? :monkey3

No need to defend your precious TDK by attacking me personally. I'm not responsible for publishing this wacky list.

The Tuggernaut
09-25-2008, 07:42 PM
most of that list was Bull ^^^^!
What kind of person would make a list like that? :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2

CelticPredator
09-25-2008, 07:43 PM
You really need to see more movies if you truly think TDK is one of the 10 best films ever made.

No I dont. I've seen a ton of films. I would put it in my top 10. Why? Because, I enjoy everything about it. Just as I put Alien/Aliens as number 1. They will always be to me, the greatest movies of all time.

Ven
09-25-2008, 07:43 PM
yeah IJ when did you become a movie expert? now I'm no expert but I thought movies were suppose to etertain people, not bore people to death with dumb indie and art films.

Ven
09-25-2008, 07:44 PM
and what number was on the waterfront? loved that movie..



I coulda had class..

IrishJedi
09-25-2008, 07:49 PM
No I dont. I've seen a ton of films. I would put it in my top 10. Why? Because, I enjoy everything about it. Just as I put Alien/Aliens as number 1. They will always be to me, the greatest movies of all time.

I think we may be talking about two different things, then: Your list of Favorite Movies Vs what you truly believe are the Best Films ever made. Those 2 are not necessarily mutually exclusive. For example, lots of people (myself included) enjoy films they well know are not that great and some are even bad (like guilty pleasures). Also, while RAIDERS and EMPIRE STRIKES BACK are both in my Top 10 Favorite movies, I doubt either would crack the Top 10 in any list I made of the Best Films Ever Made.


yeah IJ when did you become a movie expert? now I'm no expert but I thought movies were suppose to etertain people, not bore people to death with dumb indie and art films.

I don't claim to be an "expert" at all. Afterall, it's subjective. However, I can state with full objectivity that anyone who thinks TDK is a better film than SEVEN SAMURAI, LAWRENCE OF ARABIA and many others behind it is either flat crazy or trying to start ^^^^.

TheObsoleteMan
09-25-2008, 07:50 PM
I will say I was happy to see Blade Runner in the top 20. I wasn't even a fan of it in my younger years, but I've really come to appreciate it, especially the final cut. Brilliant movie.

CelticPredator
09-25-2008, 07:51 PM
Never seen those films you mentioned.....and after the Godfather...im very reluctent to. So...yes, I do ENJOY TDK more then The Godfather. Not that Godfather was bad...I just didnt care for it.

OSCORP
09-25-2008, 07:51 PM
Yeah that list is pretty much ^^^^.

plasmid303
09-25-2008, 08:00 PM
It's not all bad. One good thing about lists like this is that I can watch good films I haven't heard of or reminds me of films I haven't had a chance to view yet.

scubasteve
09-25-2008, 08:05 PM
Never seen those films you mentioned.....and after the Godfather...im very reluctent to. So...yes, I do ENJOY TDK more then The Godfather. Not that Godfather was bad...I just didnt care for it.

It might not appeal to a modern audience (since some find TDK more "entertaining"), but Godfather is a timeless film. We'll see if TDK will be timeless. Frankly, I don't think it will be. I'd be surprised if it even made the top 50, as far as best movies ever made. Time will tell. It's way to early to be putting it on lists like this, though.

If I had to watch one film (picking between the two), and only one film, for the rest of my life, I'd take Godfather over TDK, any day.

IrishJedi
09-25-2008, 08:15 PM
If I had to watch one film (picking between the two), and only one film, for the rest of my life, I'd take Godfather over TDK, any day.

You, sir, have just left the TDK Wackos Club and have completely re-entered reality. Welcome. :lol

:monkey3

:duff

CelticPredator
09-25-2008, 08:27 PM
If thats reality, then screw that. I appreciate The Godfather, but I dont like it. I appreciate LOTR....but I dont like them. Crit my taste all you want. I'd still take TDK over The Godfather anyday of the week.

IrishJedi
09-25-2008, 08:40 PM
Again, you're talking about what you like (personal taste) versus what you think are actually the better-made films. Those two things are not one-and-the-same.

uscmhicks
09-25-2008, 08:40 PM
:lol:lol man... how has this even turned into this ... ? :lol

wofford29
09-25-2008, 08:42 PM
:lol:lol man... how has this even turned into this ... ? :lol

A lot of people just hate when something is as popular as it is.

Ven
09-25-2008, 08:48 PM
its kind of like

Oh HEY THAT WAS GREAT I LOVED IT

YEAH MAN I LOVED IT TOO

about thousand more replies like that then you get this


MAN I HATE THAT ^^^^ IT WAS CRAP, I DON'T LIKE IT FOR NOMORE OBVIOUS REASONS EXCEPT THE FACT THAT I LIKE TO BE UNQIUE.

CelticPredator
09-25-2008, 08:52 PM
Again, you're talking about what you like (personal taste) versus what you think are actually the better-made films. Those two things are not one-and-the-same.

Well....just because LOTR is a better made film then Darkman doesnt mean I'd put it on any list I make. I do merge them, because its my list. And if I dont like a movie, why should I put it on there? Just because its better? Nah. Sorry.

Like I said, I appreciate The Godfather, but that doesnt mean I must like it, and I must call it the greatest movie of all time.....

Kratos
09-25-2008, 09:45 PM
I'm surprised The Godfather was ranked #1 I assumed it would of been Titanic :monkey3

plasmid303
09-25-2008, 09:46 PM
I'm surprised The Godfather was ranked #1 I assumed it would of been Titanic :monkey3

Why would you think that?

Kratos
09-25-2008, 09:51 PM
Why would you think that?

I don't know??? I suppose its cause most "Greatest" film lists Titanic is in the top 3 somewhere

EVILFACE
09-25-2008, 09:51 PM
That is really a fanboy list.

People need to seperate "favorite" from "greatest". Just cause you like it, doesn't make it great.

Kratos
09-25-2008, 09:54 PM
Just cause you like it, doesn't make it great.

Exactly :monkey1

CelticPredator
09-26-2008, 09:33 AM
Yes it does. Why would you make a list of films you dont like....even though they're well made?

amarcord
09-26-2008, 10:25 AM
Couldn't find "Cicade de Deus"?

Bannister
09-26-2008, 11:58 AM
Couldn't find "Cicade de Deus"?

It is number 177.http://www.empireonline.com/500/62.asp

ProgMatinee
09-26-2008, 12:00 PM
I don't even think I wanna look at the list. These things are always retarded. I saw a list once that said Neal Peart was one of the worst lyricists of all time. The idiots that put that list out deserve to have their brains punctured will nail guns.

Voorhees27
09-26-2008, 12:06 PM
I just checked their picks for the top ten and I must say not a bad list, many of my favorites but Raiders of the lost Ark??????????????????

CelticPredator
09-26-2008, 12:09 PM
Raiders is the greatest adventure movie of all time.

Voorhees27
09-26-2008, 12:13 PM
Raiders is the greatest adventure movie of all time.

Yeah I agree but, so? It shouldn't be considered the 2nd best of all time! Better than Shawshank? I don't think so.

It was nice to see Fight Club in the top ten, and much deserved might I add! I still think Fight Clubs screenplay is the most amazing to date right after Shawshank and Pulp Fiction!

Bannister
09-26-2008, 12:24 PM
Yeah I agree but, so? It shouldn't be considered the 2nd best of all time! Better than Shawshank? I don't think so.

It was nice to see Fight Club in the top ten, and much deserved might I add! I still think Fight Clubs screenplay is the most amazing to date right after Shawshank and Pulp Fiction!

After seeing Fight Club, then reading the book, I would have never thought they could have made a movie out of that book.

Voorhees27
09-26-2008, 12:29 PM
After seeing Fight Club, then reading the book, I would have never thought they could have made a movie out of that book.

Is the book anything like the movie? I knew it wasn't an original screenplay but still haven't read the book.

Krypto
09-26-2008, 12:35 PM
Some shady picks. Fight Club so high is just wrong and SAW being anywhere near a list of the "best" of anything is absurd.

I haven't been through the entire list, but is Superman: The Movie anywhere on there?

Bannister
09-26-2008, 12:35 PM
Is the book anything like the movie? I knew it wasn't an original screenplay but still haven't read the book.

There are a few changes, but the movie is pretty close to the book. You should check out some of the author's other books as well. One of my favorites is Survivor. I wish they would make a film of that.

CelticPredator
09-26-2008, 12:46 PM
Saw was pretty damn amazing for its time. It was cheap, scary, and intresting. But....not any more.

wofford29
09-26-2008, 01:52 PM
Saw for me will go down as one of the biggest misfires in horror history. Had someone like David Fincher been at the helm and some decent acting been in place it would have been and instant classic. All I could say at the end of it was "Oh what could have been."

CelticPredator
09-26-2008, 02:04 PM
Eh. If Fincher did it, I woulda been Se7en 1.5.....I dug Saw. Its the cool little Indie flick that could. Sucks Lionsgate milked it to death.

wofford29
09-26-2008, 02:21 PM
Eh. If Fincher did it, I woulda been Se7en 1.5.....I dug Saw. Its the cool little Indie flick that could. Sucks Lionsgate milked it to death.

Why do you say that? I've not seen another Fincher film that would suggest he's a one trick pony.

CelticPredator
09-26-2008, 02:25 PM
Yep. But Saw is too similer to Se7en....hence why.

EVILFACE
09-26-2008, 02:27 PM
Yep. But Saw is too similer to Se7en....hence why.

In what way?

wofford29
09-26-2008, 02:28 PM
Yep. But Saw is too similer to Se7en....hence why.

He didn't go down that path with Zodiac. Anywho, he was just my reference, my point is for me it was a huge missed opportunity.

CelticPredator
09-26-2008, 02:30 PM
In what way?

Games, traps, twists, bad endings, grit, violent but not....eh.

No doubt if Fincher did it, I would've been better...but if he didnt...we wouldnt have had it...but then again, if we didnt have it, the next 5 films wouldnt exist so....:duh

IronFingaz
09-26-2008, 04:03 PM
Some shady picks. Fight Club so high is just wrong and SAW being anywhere near a list of the "best" of anything is absurd.

I haven't been through the entire list, but is Superman: The Movie anywhere on there?

Yup, at #174.

IrishJedi
09-26-2008, 04:44 PM
Saw was pretty damn amazing for its time. It was cheap, scary, and intresting. But....not any more.

"For it's time?" It's a relatively recent film, dude. You make it sound as if it came out 30 years ago like HALLOWEEN did. :lol

Voorhees27
09-26-2008, 05:00 PM
There are a few changes, but the movie is pretty close to the book. You should check out some of the author's other books as well. One of my favorites is Survivor. I wish they would make a film of that.

Thats cool I will definetely check it out right away.

CelticPredator
09-26-2008, 05:08 PM
"For it's time?" It's a relatively recent film, dude. You make it sound as if it came out 30 years ago like HALLOWEEN did. :lol

When it came out....in 2000...it WAS new....now this stuff, is not new thanks to the 5 other Saws, and Hostels. So...for its TIME...2000...it was new.

Bannister
09-26-2008, 07:57 PM
When it came out....in 2000...it WAS new....now this stuff, is not new thanks to the 5 other Saws, and Hostels. So...for its TIME...2000...it was new.

It came out in 2004, in the old days.:lol:lol:lol

CelticPredator
09-26-2008, 08:23 PM
2004? Huh. Felt longer. Still....a lot has changed since then.

Bannister
09-26-2008, 08:28 PM
2004? Huh. Felt longer. Still....a lot has changed since then.

Honestly I thought so too. Then I did the math in my head since they have been releasing 1 a year. It really does seem like it has been longer though.

CelticPredator
09-26-2008, 09:13 PM
I mean, not many psychological thrillers came out around that time, Saw was new. It was different. It was only after Saw 2 came out that the originalty of the 1st was diminished.

CAhobbit
09-26-2008, 09:51 PM
Saw was pretty damn amazing for its time. It was cheap, scary, and intresting. But....not any more.

I thought the concept of 'Saw' was pretty darn good. Too bad it had some pretty bad acting. I still laugh at the scene where Lawerence (IIRC) says oh dramatically 'Don't worry. I'll be right back' and starts crawling away (or something to that effect). HILARIOUS!!! :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

Oh and 'Jigsaw' just lying around on the floor for HOURS as a dead body. You can explain that away with some kind of drug all you want, I thought it was a weak plot device

Don't get me wrong I thought it was a good enough watch but found it more funny than anything and non-scary (of course, horror movies do not scare me....well, one did).

Batty
09-26-2008, 10:00 PM
Lists like this are so arbitrary. They're fun to look at but don't mean anything.

And as much as I love TDK... Seven Samurai, Yojimobo and Roshomon (along with so many others) are true masterpieces and deserve to be rated higher.

CelticPredator
09-26-2008, 10:01 PM
I thought the concept of 'Saw' was pretty darn good. Too bad it had some pretty bad acting. I still laugh at the scene where Lawerence (IIRC) says oh dramatically 'Don't worry. I'll be right back' and starts crawling away (or something to that effect). HILARIOUS!!! :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

Oh and 'Jigsaw' just lying around on the floor for HOURS as a dead body. You can explain that away with some kind of drug all you want, I thought it was a weak plot device

Don't get me wrong I thought it was a good enough watch but found it more funny than anything and non-scary (of course, horror movies do not scare me....well, one did).

Oh yeah, the acting is hilarious at times. But it was different. I like when filmmakers do something new once in a while.

amarcord
09-26-2008, 10:15 PM
It is number 177.http://www.empireonline.com/500/62.asp

Thanks :-)

No list can be without that one.

DinoLast
09-28-2008, 07:30 PM
lol, I can think of a few people who won't be able to hold back comment on #15.

I'm glad to see #14 "Once Upon A Time in The West" ranked so high. I've always thought it was the best western ever made.

I don't care what the list says, The Searchers is the best western ever made :tap
Also, how can the Godfather be no. 1 when the Godfather 2 is at least twice as good as its prequel.

TheObsoleteMan
09-28-2008, 07:39 PM
I don't care what the list says, The Searchers is the best western ever made :tap

Sure as the turnin' of the Earth.