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CelticPredator
11-20-2011, 09:00 PM
I still think he's not real...so mine wasn't. :lol

If he IS real...that'd be big.

Batty
11-20-2011, 09:21 PM
I'm still not sure if Geller's real either. Dexter never actually saw him. I thought slamming the car door kind of an obvious give-away.

And who is LaGuerta covering for? It looks like they're setting it up to be Quinn, but that seems too obvious.

I also think they're setting things up so Deb will be the one who finally catches Dex when the series ends.

CelticPredator
11-20-2011, 09:32 PM
Im guessing Batista. :D

Dark Passenger
11-20-2011, 09:45 PM
When Travis saw the gun on Deb, it was the "Gellar" in him that knew Deb talked to his sister, so he (Travis, as Gellar) killed his sister. Gellar still hasn't been seen by anyone other then Travis.

Laguerta was covering for Captain Mathews. Remember episode 1? He was getting hookers and escorts. Laguerta found his Black Book and she used it to make her Captain.

Batista was way out of his good honest cop character by showing Louis his gun. Something he would never do.

TRUTH.

**Also knew the pen would be something, but they could've went further. At least Dex admitted to talking to Jonah.

CelticPredator
11-20-2011, 09:46 PM
^ Mm...good catch! Good catch indeed!

freestylex06x
11-20-2011, 09:47 PM
it is probably the old guy above la guerta.

CelticPredator
11-20-2011, 10:00 PM
Gross.......

Buttmunch
11-20-2011, 10:14 PM
I'm still not sure if Geller's real either. Dexter never actually saw him.

Good point. Plus I don't buy him jumping out that window easily at his age. It would also explain him being out in public and nobody noticing who he is, even though the phones are ringing off the hook at the police station with Geller sightings. But then again, they'll have to explain what happened to the real Geller. I mean, sure, Travis probably killed him but he'll have to have a serious split-personality disorder or something to kill his sister as well. Could prove interesting and would make for a decent twist.

I'm thinking Deb is going to find out about Dexter by the end of the season though. That will give them a good storyline next year with her struggling with what to do with Dexter. And possibly lead into the final season with them going after Dexter. OR having her put Dexter to better use. :naughty

Mr. EcKo
11-20-2011, 10:40 PM
I think Travis is still in on it , and Gellar is using him now to get the next "person" for his next kill .

Dexter?

Hmmm could be , at the end of the preview for next week , it show Dex covered in blood , like some sorta ritual . Theres no way thats his own blood , theres too much .

I think Laquerta is covering for the last living Prado , the a hole Ramon :lol He's on a dringing binge , outta jail , bangin hookers and accidently killed one . IDK

Hey the show could go any way now after last weeks episode

Calcifer
11-21-2011, 04:35 AM
I think Travis is still in on it , and Gellar is using him now to get the next "person" for his next kill .


Na, going by the last episode I'm pretty confident Gellar is imaginary,and that it was Travis killing all along.

316what
11-21-2011, 07:15 AM
Batista was way out of his good honest cop character by showing Louis his gun. Something he would never do.

I don't think Batista was out of character at all. They've made a point to show he's an over-protective brother....especially when Quinn got KTFO.

Calcifer
11-21-2011, 07:59 AM
I don't think Batista was out of character at all. They've made a point to show he's an over-protective brother....especially when Quinn got KTFO.

I still think showing the gun was a bit much, and the guy is a computer nerd! the least sort of person Angel should be weary about.

die
11-21-2011, 08:57 AM
Last night was a strong episode, really enjoyed it. It'll be interesting to see how this develops. I'm a bit concerned about the direction the storyline is now going with Travis and Gellar...

If they don't do something hugely creative it could be a letdown either way. If he isn't real, they've dropped alot of clues to make it seem so obvious that I think the majority of fans are already comparing Gellar to being a Harry for Travis. If it turns out that he is real, then it makes no sense that people didn't spot the guy on the front page of the newspaper out in bars, coffeshops, etc, just kicked back in plain view.

I sincerely hope the writers can pull off something epic here.

Mr. EcKo
11-21-2011, 09:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ehLnKlHaSM&feature=feedu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUBgX1UvM7M&feature=feedu

Kamandi
11-21-2011, 09:40 AM
The girl Travis released claimed to hear 2 voices. I'm more convinced that Travis manifests Geller as a split personality. The girl hears Travis speaking to himself, Changing his voice when he is Geller.

Dexter never saw Geller, he goes upstairs because Travis looked there.

Red herrings. There is only Travis.

Giant Chicken
11-21-2011, 12:53 PM
I am a big Dexter fan but I am growing more and more frustrated with this season.

Dexter has not been as careful this year. The first several seasons he always snuck around in the shadows and this year he seems to not care about hiding his identity. He keeps blowing Deb off and eventually she will become more and more suspicious.

I am still convinced that The Professor is not real/mult. personalities. If he is real it seems the writers are trying to make us doubt his existence. I will let it play out but either way it is not too entertaining to me.

I am also discourage with the renewal of 2 seasons. Like I said, I am a Dexter fan! But I feel that the series as a whole is being cheapened by things being stretch out too far. I wish they would have renewed it for one final season and lay the series to rest in an exciting/proper way! I do not see how the writers can write 24 more exciting/fresh episodes for us. Just my opinion though.

vareika
11-21-2011, 01:05 PM
I agree with the comments and share the same doubts regarding the recent news about the series being extended 2 more seasons. However, I hope only good can come given that this is Dexter. Lets hope the writers do not disappoint!

SwedishHeat
11-21-2011, 01:41 PM
I tell you what, they better have some completely twisted way they plan on revealing Gellar as a split personality, because right now it's completely obvious he's not real, and to have Travis have some sort of mental break and confess 'Gellar's inside my head' or something like that would be an extreme letdown.

I'd rather have Dex get Travis on the table and have Gellar come out and make Dex realize Gellar is forcing him to do it, and perhaps Dex sympathize with Travis, and it will be a call back to Brother Sam and Dex will forgive Travis. . .I don't know, there's gotta be some way they're gonna connect those two storylines.

Morbach
11-21-2011, 02:02 PM
I figured she was covering for Mathews but I guess we'll see.

SwedishHeat
11-21-2011, 02:29 PM
I figured she was covering for Mathews but I guess we'll see.

That was my instinct, but from the way she was talking on the phone, it almost sounded like she owed that person the favor.

With Matthews, she's squared up with him, more or less, she just blackmailed him. And if it WAS Matthews, LaGuerta would've been much more smug with him on the phone, because she's a beeeyotch. I think it's a new character we haven't seen yet, like her brother or something.

Giant Chicken
11-21-2011, 03:12 PM
My first thoughts were Mathews as well..

I think it would be more interesting if it were Quinn though.

Dark Passenger
11-21-2011, 03:23 PM
I don't think Batista was out of character at all. They've made a point to show he's an over-protective brother....especially when Quinn got KTFO.

Yeah, but a gun? Batista would never have done that in previous seasons. He's too honest of a cop. IDK what they're doing this year with Batista. The weed and threatening someone with a gun is so out of his previous character traits.

I still think showing the gun was a bit much, and the guy is a computer nerd! the least sort of person Angel should be weary about.

Yeah. Unless he wants his sister to be a lesbian, there's no better book cover guy then a computer nerd.

Calcifer
11-21-2011, 03:27 PM
Dex definably is sloppy lately with being careful, notice when dex was goggling the priest on his computer and that tech guy walked in, normally dex would close his laptop or minimize the window but no!, he just left it open for anyone to see!:slap ..good thing it wasn't deb who walked in.

Dark Passenger
11-21-2011, 03:35 PM
- Bathroom kill in episode 1.

- Dexter staying in the room next to Cole Harmon. Cole disappearing and no one connects the dots to Dexter staying next to him?

- Dexter and Boyd Fowler being in the hospital together. The medics didn't check their IDs and check them into the hospital? There's no record?

- Jordan Chase's cell records would show an incoming call from Dexter moments before he disappeared (when Chase was killed).

- Quinn. He knows Dexter killed Liddy. He has to or he is one big dummy.

- Emily Birch's crime scene. Dexter was walking and flopping around the whole scene. Phone records between Lumen and Emily, and Lumen and Dexter.

- The red car that Dexter crashes at Camp Jordan. He stole it from the lot by Liddy's crime scene and smashed it at Camp Jordan, which would be crawling with cops in an hour (according to Deb). There's no link to Liddy's crime scene, Camp Jordan, and the car?

- Using his real name to call county records and look up Eugene Greer property holdings to find Camp Jordan.

-Lumen. I can't believe Deb didn't figure out she was #13 and Dexter was helping her. She was staring it right in the face. Dexter did say his sister has a blind spot when it comes to him, but for real?

That is all ridiculousness.


Dex was way more reckless in season 5. Man did he leave a lot of loose ends there. The worst by far. I'm probably forgetting a bunch also.

-Doesn't Quinn still have the pictures of Dexter and Lumen on the boat?

Calcifer
11-21-2011, 03:41 PM
Dex was way more reckless in season 5. Man did he leave a lot of loose ends there. The worst by far. I'm probably forgetting a bunch also.

-Doesn't Quinn still have the pictures of Dexter and Lumen on the boat?


Ya definitely worse in S5 your right, I can't recall hmm? did liddy give it to him or just show him the photo?

So much for recharged,refocused! :lol :slap

Morbach
11-21-2011, 04:17 PM
That was my instinct, but from the way she was talking on the phone, it almost sounded like she owed that person the favor.

With Matthews, she's squared up with him, more or less, she just blackmailed him. And if it WAS Matthews, LaGuerta would've been much more smug with him on the phone, because she's a beeeyotch. I think it's a new character we haven't seen yet, like her brother or something.

Yeah that sounds good too. I guess we will find out.

Dark Passenger
11-21-2011, 04:26 PM
Ya definitely worse in S5 your right, I can't recall hmm? did liddy give it to him or just show him the photo?

So much for recharged,refocused! :lol :slap

Lumen and Dexter found them in Quinn's nightstand. Dexter said to put them back or he'll know they were there. He must still have them.

Calcifer
11-21-2011, 08:13 PM
Lumen and Dexter found them in Quinn's nightstand. Dexter said to put them back or he'll know they were there. He must still have them.

Ah yes, well they have two more seasons to go after this one so it would be utter ridiculous if they never tie up that loose end, but ideally it should have been done this season.

On another note, further evidence that Travis has a slit personality( I don't think it needs further proof at this stage but whateverz!:lol), his sis described him as a great artist, all the paintings we have seen being painted by Gellar are actually done by Travis.

Morbach
11-21-2011, 08:34 PM
Ah yes, well they have two more seasons to go after this one so it would be utter ridiculous if they never tie up that loose end, but ideally it should have been done this season.

On another note, further evidence that Travis has a slit personality( I don't think it needs further proof at this stage but whateverz!:lol), his sis described him as a great artist, all the paintings we have seen being painted by Gellar are actually done by Travis.

My sister pointed that out to me! It adds up.

Droog Alex
11-21-2011, 08:44 PM
Na, going by the last episode I'm pretty confident Gellar is imaginary,and that it was Travis killing all along.

The girl Travis released claimed to hear 2 voices. I'm more convinced that Travis manifests Geller as a split personality. The girl hears Travis speaking to himself, Changing his voice when he is Geller.

Dexter never saw Geller, he goes upstairs because Travis looked there.

Red herrings. There is only Travis.

Ah yes, well they have two more seasons to go after this one so it would be utter ridiculous if they never tie up that loose end, but ideally it should have been done this season.

On another note, further evidence that Travis has a slit personality( I don't think it needs further proof at this stage but whateverz!:lol), his sis described him as a great artist, all the paintings we have seen being painted by Gellar are actually done by Travis.

BINGO!!!!!!!!! :goodpost:

Droog Alex
11-21-2011, 08:44 PM
Just saw the episode tonight... LOVED IT!

Ash Housewares
11-22-2011, 01:19 AM
Was better than last weeks episode. Anyone else think Colin Hanks's acting is really terrible in this?

Kamandi
11-22-2011, 01:23 AM
I agree Colin Hanks is not a strong actor. Olmos is carrying him.

Ash Housewares
11-22-2011, 02:35 AM
He was awesome as Odama in BSG but he's not really been given much to work with here. Very underwhelming villains IMO.

noisetrigger
11-22-2011, 02:46 AM
I am sure it's Matthews that Laguerta is covering for. I mean her career is on the line after the recent presentation and I guess Matthews is using her career as leverage to force her to make the dead pro case go away.

I mean Laguerta has always only been eyeing the top position and now that she is so near the top, she will not let her career go to waste so easily.

That will also explain why she is so hard on Debra. Because Debra is Matthew's choice and she cant control her like how she could control Batista.

He was awesome as Odama in BSG but he's not really been given much to work with here. Very underwhelming villains IMO.
I agree man. Olmos is a fantastic actor and he is very very underwhelming here.

die
11-22-2011, 08:36 AM
I think we are all pretty much on the same page here. I'd hate to think that the most shocking part of the season was the one episode where the Ice Truck Killer came back and vanished. That would be a letdown. I almost think that with the way they've handled this Doomsday Killer story, it's gotta end where the issue with the killer(s) isn't the big shock - maybe somebody actually sees Dexter, maybe Deb finally sees him or Quinn or etc. Gotta be a bigger reveal and possible cliff-hanger, it's just gotta be. To me, the killer ending would've been for Brian to be in the last episode and have him play a pivotal role in trying to steer Dexter in the path of darkness and have Harry fighting to turn him to light.

I think there has to be a bigger twist here though, I think they are trying to get the fans caught up in the issue of Gellar being real or not as a diversion. At least I'm hoping that, because it seems to be building up to anti-climatic either way as far as him being real or not.

As for the 2 more seasons debate, to me, it's a matter of the super long wait too. There is way too much time between seasons and to me, that really contributes to the frustration. I think they may have also forgotten how to really stress Dexter's human attachments with Rita being gone and how they've dropped the ball with the Dexter/Debra bond. His relationship with Harrison really seems to be an afterthought the majority of the time.

Droog Alex
11-22-2011, 08:43 AM
I think we are all pretty much on the same page here. I'd hate to think that the most shocking part of the season was the one episode where the Ice Truck Killer came back and vanished. That would be a letdown. I almost think that with the way they've handled this Doomsday Killer story, it's gotta end where the issue with the killer(s) isn't the big shock - maybe somebody actually sees Dexter, maybe Deb finally sees him or Quinn or etc. Gotta be a bigger reveal and possible cliff-hanger, it's just gotta be. To me, the killer ending would've been for Brian to be in the last episode and have him play a pivotal role in trying to steer Dexter in the path of darkness and have Harry fighting to turn him to light.

I think there has to be a bigger twist here though, I think they are trying to get the fans caught up in the issue of Gellar being real or not as a diversion. At least I'm hoping that, because it seems to be building up to anti-climatic either way as far as him being real or not.

As for the 2 more seasons debate, to me, it's a matter of the super long wait too. There is way too much time between seasons and to me, that really contributes to the frustration. I think they may have also forgotten how to really stress Dexter's human attachments with Rita being gone and how they've dropped the ball with the Dexter/Debra bond. His relationship with Harrison really seems to be an afterthought the majority of the time.

:goodpost: :clap

dino76m
11-22-2011, 11:26 AM
i think dexter is trying to help travis, he realises that gellar is imaginary and helps travis by making him believe that he is gonna kill gellar, how he does that will be interesting

Darklord Dave
11-22-2011, 06:21 PM
Damn it, since it was mentioned on here that Geller might not be real I've been looking for those clues. Travis being chained up could easily be a red herring and everything points to a split personality. But it does make it a bit more interesting this way.

Calcifer
11-22-2011, 06:30 PM
Damn it, since it was mentioned on here that Geller might not be real I've been looking for those clues. Travis being chained up could easily be a red herring and everything points to a split personality. But it does make it a bit more interesting this way.

Bet It wasn't hard, they have been giving so many it's too bloody obvious now!

Mr. EcKo
11-22-2011, 07:03 PM
Like i stated before . I think Gellar is REAL . The creative writing wants us to speculate and believe that Gellar is imaginary .

I still think Travis is still in on it , meaning their next victim is being setup (Dexter) by Travis . It just doesn't make sense that Dex is trying to help Travis . Rather than kill him . He killed people with Gellar .

He fits the CODE

The teaser for next week shows Dex covered in blood , most likely not his own because theres way to much of it .

He fits the CODE


Jonah fit the CODE too

The season is all over the place , its like theres no structure to the show at all . Dexter being sloppy , the lack of him killing people in his ritualistic manner is lacking . Except for Ep 1

noisetrigger
11-22-2011, 07:14 PM
And since it is so obvious, if Gellar turns out to really be imaginary, it's really anti climatic. But if he turns out to be real, then it is kinda a lame revelation since they try so hard to make it look like he is not real.

Calcifer
11-22-2011, 07:21 PM
Jonah fit the CODE too




Well if what Jonah told Dex was true then no Jonah did not fit the code,not the first time Dex let someone of the hook, remember season 1 that kid you knifed the guy by the swamp.

Droog Alex
11-22-2011, 07:24 PM
Well if what Jonah told Dex was true then no Jonah did not fit the code,not the first time Dex let someone of the hook, remember season 1 that kid you knifed the guy by the swamp.

Bingo! Kid had all the tendencies of Dexter growing up, but he was raped, he saw himself in this kid and was going to teach him the things that he'd learned from Harry. :exactly:

Mr. EcKo
11-22-2011, 07:25 PM
Yeah he let him slide , cuz Jeremy Downs said "I killed the last guy who raped me"

That's why Dex let him go

It somehow hit something with Dexter and decided that Jeremys killing was justified ( self defense )

noisetrigger
11-22-2011, 07:25 PM
This season also has a lot of talk about light, forgiveness and redemption and I guess Dexter just wanna save Jonah.

Mr. EcKo
11-22-2011, 07:28 PM
But Jonah did fit the code . Jonah killed his mother . He killed her out of rage after finding Becca dead from suicide in the bathtub .

Mrs. Mitchell was a C&%T remember ? LOL

Calcifer
11-22-2011, 07:42 PM
But Jonah did fit the code . Jonah killed his mother . He killed her out of rage after finding Becca dead from suicide in the bathtub .

Mrs. Mitchell was a C&%T remember ? LOL


He killed one person out of rage for good reason, he does not fit the code!:dunno

YoNoSe
11-22-2011, 08:48 PM
And since it is so obvious, if Gellar turns out to really be imaginary, it's really anti climatic. But if he turns out to be real, then it is kinda a lame revelation since they try so hard to make it look like he is not real.

I feel the same way. At this point they've been so obvious about no one seeing Geller except Travis that a "reveal" of him being a hallucination would have zero impact. I'm really hoping they are just teasing the audience and the reveal will be that he actually is real.

die
11-23-2011, 08:21 AM
i think dexter is trying to help travis, he realises that gellar is imaginary and helps travis by making him believe that he is gonna kill gellar, how he does that will be interesting

to me, that could be interesting - if Dexter already has Travis figured out and has Travis helping with a kill room that he had no intention of using on Gellar.

Calcifer
11-23-2011, 08:40 AM
to me, that could be interesting - if Dexter already has Travis figured out and has Travis helping with a kill room that he had no intention of using on Gellar.

And the plan is so secret he can't even tell harry his own sub contentious?!:dunno Just look at the kill room clip from the next episode ..no I believe dex actually plans on killing Gellar physically.

pixletwin
11-23-2011, 09:42 AM
Anyone else think Harry is Dexter's real father?

Calcifer
11-23-2011, 09:45 AM
Anyone else think Harry is Dexter's real father?

No ..Dex found out who is real Dad was in season 1.

pixletwin
11-23-2011, 09:47 AM
No ..Dex found out who is real Dad was in season 1.

Really? I remember that dude. Did Dexter do blood work to determine that? I thought the fact that Harry had an affair with Dexter's mom, plus his willingness to take Dexter into his family kind of threw a giant "?" that hasn't really been addressed.

Mr. EcKo
11-23-2011, 09:55 AM
No no no ... Joe Driscol was Dex's "Bio Dad" remember?

Harry adopted Dexter because he felt regret and thought it was his fault that Laura Moser was killed .

pixletwin
11-23-2011, 10:02 AM
Oh damn. I thought their dynamic was more interesting if Harry was his secret papa. :lol

Calcifer
11-23-2011, 10:16 AM
No no no ... Joe Driscol was Dex's "Bio Dad" remember?

Harry adopted Dexter because he felt regret and thought it was his fault that Laura Moser was killed .

:exactly: and yes he did do blood work on the sly while he was at the morgue.

die
11-23-2011, 11:32 AM
And the plan is so secret he can't even tell harry his own sub contentious?!:dunno Just look at the kill room clip from the next episode ..no I believe dex actually plans on killing Gellar physically.

Telling his own subconscious would be the same as telling us though. Not to mention the fact that I'm talking about an episode that hasn't happened yet, unless people here have bootlegged it already somehow? Just interested in exploring possibilities outside of A.)He's real and he dies and B.)He's not real and he's already dead.

looking for something a bit more shocking to cap the season off. Is it gonna be a Skinner-esque quick fix (like 3 and 5) or something more like seasons 1,2 and 4's endings, which felt more rewarding. (my personal opinions here, of course)

Darklord Dave
11-23-2011, 12:46 PM
Like i stated before . I think Gellar is REAL . The creative writing wants us to speculate and believe that Gellar is imaginary .

I still think Travis is still in on it , meaning their next victim is being setup (Dexter) by Travis . It just doesn't make sense that Dex is trying to help Travis . Rather than kill him . He killed people with Gellar .

He fits the CODE

The teaser for next week shows Dex covered in blood , most likely not his own because theres way to much of it .

He fits the CODE


Jonah fit the CODE too

The season is all over the place , its like theres no structure to the show at all . Dexter being sloppy , the lack of him killing people in his ritualistic manner is lacking . Except for Ep 1

No, Travis didn't fit the code since he hadn't killed anyone himself.

And part of the whole thrust of this season is Dexter finding that he needs (or already has) higher values than just the code. Sam fit the code but Dexter wouldn't kill him.

Calcifer
11-23-2011, 12:59 PM
Telling his own subconscious would be the same as telling us though. Not to mention the fact that I'm talking about an episode that hasn't happened yet, unless people here have bootlegged it already somehow? Just interested in exploring possibilities outside of A.)He's real and he dies and B.)He's not real and he's already dead.

looking for something a bit more shocking to cap the season off. Is it gonna be a Skinner-esque quick fix (like 3 and 5) or something more like seasons 1,2 and 4's endings, which felt more rewarding. (my personal opinions here, of course)


O don't get me wrong I'm also hoping for something more creative then he's imaginary or real but that clip of dex setting up the kill room in the next episode disproves your theory, he's talks about saving Travis and giving him a second chance with a new identity, these are his intentions! ..the writers wouldn't have him lie to his own subconscious to fool us the audience! ..that would be incredibly stupid!:dunno

Dark Passenger
11-23-2011, 01:27 PM
The Code also states that someone has to have the likelihood to kill again. Jonah didn't and once Dexter learned more about Brother Sam (who was an awesome character) and Jonah , they both didn't fit the Code.

Morbach
11-23-2011, 01:48 PM
Sunday needs to get here:impatient:

die
11-23-2011, 02:38 PM
O don't get me wrong I'm also hoping for something more creative then he's imaginary or real but that clip of dex setting up the kill room in the next episode disproves your theory, he's talks about saving Travis and giving him a second chance with a new identity, these are his intentions! ..the writers wouldn't have him lie to his own subconscious to fool us the audience! ..that would be incredibly stupid!:dunno

Just saying, they haven't given anything away yet through his inner dialogue- Was there a scene of Dexter talking with Harry about how Gellar got away in the loft? I may have missed it? Seems like they are trying to draw our attentions a way for a reason.

I just liked that guys idea, thinking outside the box and all. :monkey3

crows
11-24-2011, 12:38 AM
I think we are all pretty much on the same page here. I'd hate to think that the most shocking part of the season was the one episode where the Ice Truck Killer came back and vanished. That would be a letdown. I almost think that with the way they've handled this Doomsday Killer story, it's gotta end where the issue with the killer(s) isn't the big shock - maybe somebody actually sees Dexter, maybe Deb finally sees him or Quinn or etc. Gotta be a bigger reveal and possible cliff-hanger, it's just gotta be. To me, the killer ending would've been for Brian to be in the last episode and have him play a pivotal role in trying to steer Dexter in the path of darkness and have Harry fighting to turn him to light.
.

I read somewhere that the actor playing Brian was schedule only for one episode, ( I think it might have been on imdb I think) so I don't think Brian is coming back

Like i stated before . I think Gellar is REAL . The creative writing wants us to speculate and believe that Gellar is imaginary .

I still think Travis is still in on it , meaning their next victim is being setup (Dexter) by Travis . It just doesn't make sense that Dex is trying to help Travis . Rather than kill him . He killed people with Gellar .

He fits the CODE

The teaser for next week shows Dex covered in blood , most likely not his own because theres way to much of it .

He fits the CODE


Jonah fit the CODE too

The season is all over the place , its like theres no structure to the show at all . Dexter being sloppy , the lack of him killing people in his ritualistic manner is lacking . Except for Ep 1

How does Travis fit the code if he didn't kill anyone, just because he kidnapped and helped Gellar doesn't make him fit the code, If Travis really has not killed anyone or helped, he really doesn't fit the code at all.

I really do not think Travis is setting up Dexter to kill him. Travis loved his sister and Gellar took her, it would be pretty messed up if Travis is going to help Gellar kill the only person that can help Travis at this point, besides by helping Dexter Travis gets cleared too.

I agree with some people online that, maybe the writers are making Dexter sloppy and not as in control on purpose, he is liosing grip on his control over things, he is not the same Dexter, could the writers be making him sloppy on purpose?

I agree about the lack of kills in kill r ooms is disappointing though

noisetrigger
11-26-2011, 09:47 PM
Dexter is tomorrow and I am surprised there aren't more talks about it here.

Calcifer
11-27-2011, 09:44 AM
Another long night for me waiting for the episode to pop up online!

Mr. EcKo
11-27-2011, 09:58 AM
IMO Travis does fit the code . He is responsible for death . The mexican fruit vender , Travis knocked him out and most likely helped with his killing

The Jogger . again Travis knocked him out with that rock , and most likely helped kill him .

Like i said IMO

Morbach
11-27-2011, 12:48 PM
Tonight :yess:

Mr. EcKo
11-27-2011, 01:07 PM
Tonights :yess:

The Night .... And Its Going To happen Again & Again

Kal-El
11-27-2011, 06:53 PM
Great episode tonight. Can't wait till next weekend.

Dark Passenger
11-27-2011, 06:57 PM
The Chicken called it weeks ago. After a while it was easy to see coming. I'm glad they didn't hold the secret until the finale. What can possibly happen for 4 more episodes though?

Dark Passenger
11-27-2011, 07:00 PM
Also, Batista and Quinn are getting ridiculous. The new Chicago Detective, Mike Anderson, is way better a character in my opinion. Batista is acting way out of context of previous seasons.

Mr. EcKo
11-27-2011, 07:44 PM
Awesome episode. I was right about Travis being in on it. Now the season just got exciting

DFanatic
11-27-2011, 08:03 PM
I won't be able to watch it until someone puts it up for download but I can't wait that long. Will someone spoil me please?

Calcifer
11-27-2011, 09:00 PM
I won't be able to watch it until someone puts it up for download but I can't wait that long. Will someone spoil me please?

You can stream it now, I just watched it.

Calcifer
11-27-2011, 09:04 PM
Also, Batista and Quinn are getting ridiculous. The new Chicago Detective, Mike Anderson, is way better a character in my opinion. Batista is acting way out of context of previous seasons.

He hasn't done enough so far for me to form a proper opinion on him, and dex was sloppy yet again when he was chatting with Travis on the phone just as deb walked into the room!:slap

Dark Passenger
11-27-2011, 09:13 PM
He hasn't done enough so far for me to form a proper opinion on him.

That's kind of my point. The little we know has impressed me more then the new Batista and Quinn.

Remember Batista not being able to lie to the IA agent about Doakes shooting? He ran into Laguerta's office and said, "I met Detective Gianna while seeking the comfort of prostitutes." The dude can't lie and wouldn't harm a fly. Starting in Season 5 they turned him into something totally against what his characters original intent was.

Droog Alex
11-27-2011, 10:34 PM
Great episode tonight:
E.James Olmos acting was superb tonight... him and Mos' by far have delivered the best performances.

Nothing exposed that many and almost all have mentioned here.

It appears will have another whodini escape next week...

As for Quinn and Batista -- corny, corniest...corny nacho supreme. Yes, as ridiculous as that last line I typed was, so is the trivial crap between the two.

The 'collector' is very intriguing and that should be fun to watch unfold as the season wraps up.

Love how Deb opened the case... and how she's looking for a 'table.' Which will only lead to - they are paving the way - for her to eventually find out more about Dexter.

Good follow-up to last week...

God really antsy seeing the last 20 minutes tonight, but dayumn, how predictable that Geller was in the freeze-box? Called it before it happened.

Dark Passenger
11-27-2011, 10:40 PM
Great episode tonight:
E.James Olmos acting was superb tonight... him and Mos' by far have delivered the best performances.

Nothing exposed that many and almost all have mentioned here.

It appears will have another whodini escape next week...

As for Quinn and Batista -- corny, corniest...corny nacho supreme. Yes, as ridiculous as that last line I typed was, so is the trivial crap between the two.

Couldn't agree more. Seems like Quinn and Batista are just trying to kill time to make an hour show

The 'collector' is very intriguing and that should be fun to watch unfold as the season wraps up.

I was surprised it was him. For a second, I actually thought Debra took it. She's been mentioning Biney too much.

Love how Deb opened the case... and how she's looking for a 'table.' Which will only lead to - they are paving the way - for her to eventually find out more about Dexter.

That is my feeling too, it's definitely leading up to it. With the "eh" factor of DDK, I think the real finale will be Debra meeting the Dark Passenger.

Good follow-up to last week...

God really antsy seeing the last 20 minutes tonight, but dayumn, how predictable that Geller was in the freeze-box? Called it before it happened.

:wave:):goodpost:

SwedishHeat
11-27-2011, 11:15 PM
At this point, I've gotta wonder why Travis killed Gellar.

Did Gellar brainwash Travis into killing him and guilt has manifested him into Travis' subconscious??

Is there a third personality in Travis' mind that took over and killed Gellar??

I was kinda hoping there'd be a Psycho moment, when Dex opens the fridge and Travis comes bounding down the stairs and stabs Dex. . . that woulda been hilarious.

darthviper107
11-28-2011, 12:02 AM
At this point, I've gotta wonder why Travis killed Gellar.

Did Gellar brainwash Travis into killing him and guilt has manifested him into Travis' subconscious??

Is there a third personality in Travis' mind that took over and killed Gellar??

I was kinda hoping there'd be a Psycho moment, when Dex opens the fridge and Travis comes bounding down the stairs and stabs Dex. . . that woulda been hilarious.

I'm guessing Travis became obsessed after meeting Gellar and Gellar ignored him because he wasn't as serious as Travis about the material and part of his thing was all the female students he had relationships with.


I was actually expecting a new painting of "The False Prophet" and have it be a painting of Dexter, and then Travis would show up behind him and knock him out.

SwedishHeat
11-28-2011, 12:05 AM
I was actually expecting a new painting of "The False Prophet" and have it be a painting of Dexter, and then Travis would show up behind him and knock him out.

Yeah, me too. I would've liked to have seen that, but I think it feels a little bit too horror/pyscho thriller movie vibe. . . which for the most part, Dexter is more 'real world'.

Giant Chicken
11-28-2011, 12:13 AM
Welp.. there it is! I am SO thankful that they did not wait until the last episode to let us in on the "secret". I have been watching the show with several friends and I was the only one who thought it was obvious that Gellar was not really real. So I hope a lot of fans were able to enjoy the big reveal tonight. Overall, I have been disappointed this season. Now that the cat is out of the bag I am excited to see where the story goes from here.

I was surprised and bummed that the lab tech has the ice truck hand. I hope he is a good guy because I like his character.

noisetrigger
11-28-2011, 05:04 AM
Oh well, I guess the big revealed wasn't much of a big reveal at all since pretty much everyone here figure it out.

This is honestly starting to be a weak season. It started off excitingly but loses its steam every subsequent episode. To me, yesterday episode has got to be the weakest so far.

So many loopholes and out of character situations I think this season is actually looking weaker than the previous.

I hope this season can be salvaged in the next few episodes.

Ash Housewares
11-28-2011, 05:27 AM
I agree this series started off positively and went downhill when Sam was killed off. He was the best thing about this season. Such a shame. Really has jumped the shark.

Kamandi
11-28-2011, 06:04 AM
That's a pretty big refrigerator to fit down such a small trap door.

noisetrigger
11-28-2011, 06:09 AM
That's a pretty big refrigerator to fit down such a small trap door.

Well if you catch the next week episode preview, there is another entrance to the celler :rotfl

Ash Housewares
11-28-2011, 06:19 AM
I still wanna know how he got a body up here.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7970/dexter6x0705.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/dexter6x0705.jpg/)

Droog Alex
11-28-2011, 06:30 AM
I agree this series started off positively and went downhill when Sam was killed off. He was the best thing about this season. Such a shame. Really has jumped the shark.

Sam was a great character, and Mos was a awesome actor. Stole scenes IMO...

Droog Alex
11-28-2011, 06:32 AM
I still wanna know how he got a body up here.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7970/dexter6x0705.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/dexter6x0705.jpg/)

Oh, you did not know... Dexter has superpowers. :slap

How incompetent can they make the police staff look? When they saw an updated blog on Geller's site, it never donned on anyone that he could be tracked. Oh....but wait, it was the intern, 'collector,' dude that said... "I can track his internet protocol," address...

Deb was like, "Oh yeah, can you do that?"

:dunno

316what
11-28-2011, 06:38 AM
That's kind of my point. The little we know has impressed me more then the new Batista and Quinn.

Remember Batista not being able to lie to the IA agent about Doakes shooting? He ran into Laguerta's office and said, "I met Detective Gianna while seeking the comfort of prostitutes." The dude can't lie and wouldn't harm a fly. Starting in Season 5 they turned him into something totally against what his characters original intent was.

Being married to LaGuerta will change a man, lol.

Droog Alex
11-28-2011, 06:41 AM
Since Biney came back in the form of Dexter's Dark Passenger...

How about Special Agen Lundy coming back, in the form of Deb's "Driving Light," to help her find out who Dexter is...?
BWAHAHAHAHHA.

ChaserFan
11-28-2011, 06:52 AM
I wonder if we'll see any of Astor & Cody this season. I would've thought they'd at least show Deb or Jamie walk in as Dexter is ending a unheard conversation on the phone with them or something...you know, to show that he hasn't completely forgot he has two other kids :lol

Droog Alex
11-28-2011, 07:02 AM
I wonder if we'll see any of Astor & Cody this season. I would've thought they'd at least show Deb or Jamie walk in as Dexter is ending a unheard conversation on the phone with them or something...you know, to show that he hasn't completely forgot he has two other kids :lol

If those kids hit a growth spurt and look vastly different, I doubt it. For continuity purposes, may throw it off. Unless, they get new actors if that's the case. Otherwise, a mention by a character of those two or a phone convo, something like that... will be the last we hear of those two.

steven.giunta
11-28-2011, 07:07 AM
I wonder if we'll see any of Astor & Cody this season. I would've thought they'd at least show Deb or Jamie walk in as Dexter is ending a unheard conversation on the phone with them or something...you know, to show that he hasn't completely forgot he has two other kids :lol

There's only one problem with that statement.they are not his kids.he has no legal rights to them at all and after what happened to rita I'm sure the grandparents want nothing to do with dexter.

ChaserFan
11-28-2011, 07:23 AM
There's only one problem with that statement.they are not his kids.he has no legal rights to them at all and after what happened to rita I'm sure the grandparents want nothing to do with dexter.

He's still their step-father...it's not like he only put up with them because of Rita, and now he never has to think about them again.

If those kids hit a growth spurt and look vastly different, I doubt it. For continuity purposes, may throw it off. Unless, they get new actors if that's the case. Otherwise, a mention by a character of those two or a phone convo, something like that... will be the last we hear of those two.

I dunno, atm they don't look too different from last season. Plus they still are only 14 & 11...it's not like they're gonna look 18 all of a sudden :lol

darthviper107
11-28-2011, 08:01 AM
If those kids hit a growth spurt and look vastly different, I doubt it. For continuity purposes, may throw it off. Unless, they get new actors if that's the case. Otherwise, a mention by a character of those two or a phone convo, something like that... will be the last we hear of those two.

Well, the season is about a year later and was filmed a year later, so if they wanted them in there they wouldn't look out of place.

Calcifer
11-28-2011, 08:16 AM
Enough talk about those kids, or you will end up like Nathan ere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6IC-G3IN2Q

hairlesswookiee
11-28-2011, 08:17 AM
Sam was a great character, and Mos was a awesome actor. Stole scenes IMO...
:lecture He does that in everything he's in. I also wish that he continued in this season. Possibly as another "passenger" to conflict with Harry's philosophies?

Deb was like, "Oh yeah, can you do that?"

:dunno

I wouldn't expect Deb to be tech savvy anyways, but Matsuko (spelling?) should've known that. Is anyone else expecting the intern guy to catch a beating from Angel??

ChaserFan
11-28-2011, 08:30 AM
I wouldn't expect Deb to be tech savvy anyways, but Matsuko (spelling?) should've known that. Is anyone else expecting the intern guy to catch a beating from Angel??

*Masuka ;)

Kamandi
11-28-2011, 09:25 AM
I'm wondering where they are going with Quinn and Batista. At first I was wondering if they were setting up a buddy cop thing that could be spun off from Dexter later on. Now it seems more like one of these guys will not survive the season.

Droog Alex
11-28-2011, 09:47 AM
I'm wondering where they are going with Quinn and Batista. At first I was wondering if they were setting up a buddy cop thing that could be spun off from Dexter later on. Now it seems more like one of these guys will not survive the season.

They are making Angel look like a schmuck more and more... Quinn has always been a dope, but I can except that, because there was no prior like-ability, for me anyways.

die
11-28-2011, 11:11 AM
To me, this was the first night of the season where I was actually getting bored 20-30 minutes into it, and I very much hate to admit that.

I just have to wonder if there are any casual fans out there who were actually shocked by Gellar being in the fridge dead? I mean, if they were actually planning this to be a shocking moment they should've did a better job at concealing it. I mean, there were tons of clues where you began to question if Gellar was real or not. If they are being this obvious, it's plain to see that The Collector Intern is networking to get to Dexter. He used the hot blonde to get his foot in the door, he's got the prosthetic hand and now he's banging Dexter's babysitter- it's obvious he's used his webskills and found out ITK and Dex are brothers and they've hinted his obsession to Dexter.

To me, it's just bad writing this season - too much obviousness and hand-holding to non-rewarding payoffs. I am a die-hard fan too, been one since Season 1 aired, so I want it to be good, it just isn't right now.

I'm still holding onto a small ray of hope that they can turn it around by seasons end, other than that, this was just another week where The Walking Dead has outshined Dexter in many ways.

The will have to really, really work hard to come-up with 2 more seasons of this show that I will wait months and months and months for.

Kamandi
11-28-2011, 11:24 AM
My frustration right now is similar to how I felt with the Sopranos toward the end. I felt like they were creating the illusion of jeopardy without ever writing very far outside their well established boundaries. The Sopranos was a great show during the first two seasons, and then there was a bell curve falloff. They kept teasing a NY vs NJ war that only happened during the last couple episodes. And I hated that fade to black ending so hard. What a copout.

So now Dexter need to break it's mold or face the same. With two more years signed they need to think bold.

YoNoSe
11-28-2011, 11:28 AM
Yeah, they telegraphed the Geller reveal wayyyy too early.

I feel the same way. I want to love it but it's getting harder.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here but I actually find Quinn one of the best parts of this season. Maybe it's because he's one of the newer characters, or one of the few that's dealing with things we haven't seen a million times before.

I can't see how they can sustain this for another two seasons. Even Dexter's narration sounds like we've heard it all before. I hope they shake things up. I looks like Deb is going to crash hard in one way or another - either the brass are going to smite her to stop the hooker investigation or she (or more likely her shrink) is going to figure out Dexter is a murder chair.

I don't think we've seen the last of Geller's tramp-stamped former lover.

316what
11-28-2011, 11:39 AM
There's only one problem with that statement.they are not his kids.he has no legal rights to them at all and after what happened to rita I'm sure the grandparents want nothing to do with dexter.

The grandparents do have another grandchild that lives with Dexter.

He's still their step-father...it's not like he only put up with them because of Rita, and now he never has to think about them again.

Of course Dexter put up with them because of Rita. It was just another means to his metamorphosis.

I looks like Deb is going to crash hard in one way or another - either the brass are going to smite her to stop the hooker investigation or she (or more likely her shrink) is going to figure out Dexter is a murder chair.

Or, Deb and the shrink get it on!!:yess:

Kamandi
11-28-2011, 11:42 AM
Dex is a chair. They can call that back later. Have Dex face his ultimate fate while "The Mercy Seat" by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds plays.

YoNoSe
11-28-2011, 11:47 AM
Or, Deb and the shrink get it on!!:yess:

I'd watch that spin-off.

Dex is a chair. They can call that back later. Have Dex face his ultimate fate while "The Mercy Seat" by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds plays.

Or maybe.....

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/YoNoSe/ChairysRevenge_web.jpg

Mr. EcKo
11-28-2011, 11:48 AM
WTF is up with Chief Matthews banging Hookers in hotel rooms? :lol:lol and why the hell did he tell the one person that he hates , Laguerta :gah:

ChaserFan
11-28-2011, 11:49 AM
Of course Dexter put up with them because of Rita. It was just another means to his metamorphosis.

Yeah, but I think the fact that Dexter felt responsible for Rita's death made him care a lot more about Astor & Cody.....although.....maybe he doesn't care about them, as this season proves :lol

ChaserFan
11-28-2011, 11:59 AM
and why the hell did he tell the one person that he hates , Laguerta :gah:

Laguerta saw Matthews' name on a ledger from a brothel, and used it to blackmail him into promoting her to captain.

My guess is that he continued his 'activities', and accidentally got that chick killed, and turned to Laguerta (the only one who knew about the prostitutes) to help sweep it under the rug.

Droog Alex
11-28-2011, 11:59 AM
The will have to really, really work hard to come-up with 2 more seasons of this show that I will wait months and months and months for.I said that on this thread... which is why I feel like the Lumen thing, coming back could work, or not, based on them trying to extend the series. There isnt much room left...

And if Deb finds out, in terms of a series, its pretty much a wrap, as you cant extend the show with that story line exploding without it getting really lame or just plain idiotic.

WTF is up with Chief Matthews banging Hookers in hotel rooms? :lol:lol and why the hell did he tell the one person that he hates , Laguerta :gah:

Angel f'ing prostitutes... (or going out there to find some)
Matthews...
The interns...
Trinity killer infiltrating the station so easily...
Dexter doing his deeds and getting Doakes on the hook...
Lundy porking Deb...
LeGuerta jumping the bones of her bosses boyfriend...
That sneaky Prado...
Miami and all those serial killers...

Fun place to live in and a great place to find a job at, Miami Metro. :slap

YoNoSe
11-28-2011, 12:15 PM
Deb could always find out (dramatic!) and then bite the dust (oops, the secret's still safe).

I mean she did divorce Hall and the name of the show ain't DEBRA.

Droog Alex
11-28-2011, 12:17 PM
Deb could always find out (dramatic!) and then bite the dust (oops, the secret's still safe).

I mean she did divorce Hall and the name of the show ain't DEBRA.

LOL -- I have a feelin' it won't be a pretty ending for Dexter when the show reaches it's final stages. Unless they do a Soprano's like ending, living things hinged...

:panic:

YoNoSe
11-28-2011, 12:28 PM
I'd guess either Dex dies heroically or he gets discovered and disappears, presumably to live at large murdering murderers forever. They would have to set up some kind of surrogate family for Harrison first. So if Deb ends up getting married I'd say it doesn't look good for Dexter.

It would take serious ***** to to shed a realistic light on him by having him discovered and getting locked up for being a very prolific serial killer. I can't imagine that happening within the tone of the show.

Obviously it could be a million other things. I don't actually care what happens I just hope they can wrangle the show back into its pre-Lumen glory. I love the cast, I love the characters.

Mr. EcKo
11-28-2011, 12:30 PM
Another thing i thought of ... What do you think is going to happen to Masukas intern ? It was shown that he has The ice Truck Killer evidence , The prostitues fake prostetic hand. He must of either bought it off ebay when the chick intern put it up or managed to get it back for Masuka and decided to keep it for himself . IDK

I know something will come from it

Kamandi
11-28-2011, 12:30 PM
Unless they do a Soprano's like ending....



http://b.asset.soup.io/asset/1522/7483_411c.gif

YoNoSe
11-28-2011, 12:34 PM
Another thing i thought of ... What do you think is going to happen to Masukas intern ? It was shown that he has The ice Truck Killer evidence , The prostitues fake prostetic hand. He must of either bought it off ebay when the chick intern put it up or managed to get it back for Masuka and decided to keep it for himself . IDK

I know something will come from it

They even showed that stuff in the recap last night so it must play some kind of role in the eps to come. :dunno

Droog Alex
11-28-2011, 12:35 PM
http://b.asset.soup.io/asset/1522/7483_411c.gif

http://i44.tinypic.com/21c5agh.gif

DinoLast
11-28-2011, 12:40 PM
Well the obvious was so obvious I thought it was too obvious, and made me think that they were tricking us, sadly it was just obvious. However there is still 3 more episodes, and I hoping there could still be more to this? It could turn out Travis still might not be working alone? Could Clarissa Porter still have a part in all this? Could Gellar actually be Clarissa some of the time?

die
11-28-2011, 01:59 PM
WTF is up with Chief Matthews banging Hookers in hotel rooms? :lol:lol and why the hell did he tell the one person that he hates , Laguerta :gah:



Because banging them in his house might draw suspicion from the neighbors:hi5:


Intern knows Dexter and ITK are related, maybe it ties into the videogame thing- maybe he wants to recreate it in a game or perhaps it is more sinister? He's definitely obsessed with Dexter.

Dark Passenger
11-28-2011, 02:03 PM
Because banging them in his house might draw suspicion from the neighbors:hi5:


Intern knows Dexter and ITK are related, maybe it ties into the videogame thing- maybe he wants to recreate it in a game or perhaps it is more sinister? He's definitely obsessed with Dexter.

Wow. Never thought of that. He has to know, great observation. Wonder if him banging Jamie will end him up in Dexter's apartment finding Dexter's trunk or Kill Tools.

Dark Passenger
11-28-2011, 02:10 PM
To me, this was the first night of the season where I was actually getting bored 20-30 minutes into it, and I very much hate to admit that.

I just have to wonder if there are any casual fans out there who were actually shocked by Gellar being in the fridge dead? I mean, if they were actually planning this to be a shocking moment they should've did a better job at concealing it. I mean, there were tons of clues where you began to question if Gellar was real or not. If they are being this obvious, it's plain to see that The Collector Intern is networking to get to Dexter. He used the hot blonde to get his foot in the door, he's got the prosthetic hand and now he's banging Dexter's babysitter- it's obvious he's used his webskills and found out ITK and Dex are brothers and they've hinted his obsession to Dexter.

To me, it's just bad writing this season - too much obviousness and hand-holding to non-rewarding payoffs. I am a die-hard fan too, been one since Season 1 aired, so I want it to be good, it just isn't right now.

I'm still holding onto a small ray of hope that they can turn it around by seasons end, other than that, this was just another week where The Walking Dead has outshined Dexter in many ways.

The will have to really, really work hard to come-up with 2 more seasons of this show that I will wait months and months and months for.



The bad writing seems to stem from Clyde Philips leaving Dexter to work and write for Homeland, which is an amazing show. Homeland is the best show on TV right now.

Batty
11-28-2011, 02:31 PM
I thought the most surprising thing about this week's episode was that Louis had the missing hand in his apartment. I think he had a few Sideshow figures in there too. I thought I saw a Metaluna Mutant figure. :lol

barryo
11-28-2011, 02:39 PM
I thought the most surprising thing about this week's episode was that Louis had the missing hand in his apartment. I think he had a few Sideshow figures in there too. I thought I saw a Metaluna Mutant figure. :lol

i pointed that very thing out to my wife & she said "no surprize there".

i didn't know how to take that.......was it all........:lol.......or all.......:monkey2...????

Batty
11-28-2011, 02:47 PM
i pointed that very thing out to my wife & she said "no surprize there".

i didn't know how to take that.......was it all........:lol.......or all.......:monkey2...????

:lol :lol :lol

DinoLast
11-28-2011, 02:47 PM
I just went on the Showtime website, and it definitely looks as if Travis had no help with the killings, it was just him and his imaginary friend. Thing is I can't see how he had time pull off some of these things, by seeming to be in two places at once. I guess it is down to some sloppy writing

YoNoSe
11-28-2011, 02:53 PM
I still think Tramp-Stamp is involved somehow.

Nice sig and avatar, Dino. I hear Waterson is sketching portraits at a Six Flags park these days, happy as a clam! :lol

DinoLast
11-28-2011, 03:15 PM
I still think Tramp-Stamp is involved somehow.

Nice sig and avatar, Dino. I hear Waterson is sketching portraits at a Six Flags park these days, happy as a clam! :lol

Good to know. You have to admire a guy who stood by his principles, and did not sell out to the mighty dollar. I love Jim Davis' Garfield, but it sad to see how he is portrayed nowadays

Calcifer
11-28-2011, 03:38 PM
Another thing i thought of ... What do you think is going to happen to Masukas intern ? It was shown that he has The ice Truck Killer evidence , The prostitues fake prostetic hand. He must of either bought it off ebay when the chick intern put it up or managed to get it back for Masuka and decided to keep it for himself . IDK

I know something will come from it

Do you read other peoples posts Mike? :lol Dies theory seems pretty solid.

If they are being this obvious, it's plain to see that The Collector Intern is networking to get to Dexter. He used the hot blonde to get his foot in the door, he's got the prosthetic hand and now he's banging Dexter's babysitter- it's obvious he's used his webskills and found out ITK and Dex are brothers and they've hinted his obsession to Dexter.

Morbach
11-28-2011, 03:59 PM
Great episode last night. Man I wish I hadn't known the twist :lol

Calcifer
11-28-2011, 04:04 PM
I hope for one of the future seasons they keep the main villain unknown for a while like they did with the Ice truck killer in season 1. I miss that feeling of not knowing who the hell it is!!

DinoLast
11-28-2011, 05:26 PM
I think the main let down was that Gellar is much more interesting a villain than Travis. That's down to the actors, Hanks is good, but James Olmos is up there with Lithgow, and could have made DDK Gellar as memorable as Trinity. Now we are stuck with just Hanks for the remainder, and that seems a much less exciting prospect

Calcifer
11-28-2011, 05:35 PM
I think the main let down was that Gellar is much more interesting a villain than Travis. That's down to the actors, Hanks is good, but James Olmos is up there with Lithgow, and could have made DDK Gellar as memorable as Trinity. Now we are stuck with just Hanks for the remainder, and that seems a much less exciting prospect

Olmos is certainly a good actor but nowhere near as cool a Villain as Trinity, and making it so obvious he wasn't real so early on didn't help either.

DinoLast
11-28-2011, 05:37 PM
Olmos is certainly a good actor but nowhere near as cool a Villain as Trinity, and making it so obvious he wasn't real so early on didn't help either.

I did say could have

Grenouille
11-28-2011, 05:41 PM
Olmos is certainly a good actor but nowhere near as cool a Villain as Trinity, and making it so obvious he wasn't real so early on didn't help either.

It's almost unfair to compare the two. Season 4 was the pinnacle of this series. I doubt they can fire on all cylinders like they did that season again.

This year overall has been much better to me. I just didn't like the Lumen character and felt it dragged last season down.

Calcifer
11-28-2011, 05:48 PM
I did say could have

Ye sorry sort of misread your post but your right the character had potential,I get why they went the route they did with almos, they needed to give him something to make him interesting, just being a crazy religious killer wouldn't have been enough after the Ice truck killer being Dexter's brother and Trinity and his familycamoflauge, shame it could have worked if the twist hadn't been so obvious.

Kamandi
11-28-2011, 06:22 PM
I did say could have

Olmos is under-utilized here. He is an intimidating screen presence when he has the right material.

Droog Alex
11-28-2011, 07:03 PM
I thought the most surprising thing about this week's episode was that Louis had the missing hand in his apartment. I think he had a few Sideshow figures in there too. I thought I saw a Metaluna Mutant figure. :lol

He had a Ferg figure in there (urban vinyl)... I'm surprised no one brought that up a tad quicker. LOL.

As for that member... die, he is the theory king of Dexter 'round these parts. LOL. :lecture

I'm actually interested to see if Hanks can help carry the show with his psychotic portrayal...


Sorta of a Norman Bates thing going...

We'll see. I hope so.

Droog Alex
11-28-2011, 07:03 PM
Olmos is under-utilized here. He is an intimidating screen presence when he has the right material.

This... great post.

noisetrigger
11-28-2011, 07:18 PM
Just want to point out that I call the Laguerta covering for Matthews last week.:yess:

I think the only way to save this season now is to have a major shocking revelation or tragedy. Maybe the tech geek is a killer himself? Obsessive to the point of maybe re-enacting the Ice Truck killing with Angel's sister?

That would be a great way to end the season and a great start for next season.

Darth Caedus
11-28-2011, 09:18 PM
Olmos is under-utilized here. He is an intimidating screen presence when he has the right material.

http://starbaseatlanta.com/catalog/images/bgts188C[1].jpg

Blood Electricity
11-28-2011, 11:45 PM
I thought the most surprising thing about this week's episode was that Louis had the missing hand in his apartment. I think he had a few Sideshow figures in there too. I thought I saw a Metaluna Mutant figure. :lol

Yeah, I called it the second he was talking about collecting stuff. I'm more interested to see if this is some sorta twist than I am to see hanks.

my thoughts for the end of this season and the remainder of the show as a whole. I'm hoping laguerta and/or matthews get canned or killed. Angel can have one of their jobs. Then deb finds out about dexter and she is either with him or against him. I'm also curious as to what happens with quinn.

die
11-29-2011, 06:57 AM
Gotta agree 100% about Olmos, definitely underused here - he's definitely Lithgow level in my mind too! Even though I do think he hasn't been utilized to his potential, he is still a very strong character as seen through Travis' eyes. He makes the storyline seem believable, like he could really be that type of guy who twists the Bible to fit his desires. Hanks could not do that alone, he's really added very little to the storyline for me.

Just remember: from season 4 Lithgow himself said that he wasn't won over by the show itself, he said the deciding factor was that they told him the ending and swore him to secrecy. He thought it was so brilliant that he couldn't refuse it. The writing is what gave Lithgow the chance to really shine as Trinity and the pitch to Lithgow was brilliant.

To me, it's crystal clear that the fail is that this season has been so predictable. If you look back over this whole thread you'll see many times how wrong we all were when we'd speculate on the twists and turns. That's what has made the show so good for me. Even though alot of us figured they might kill Rita off, I think deep down inside we figured they wouldn't have the ***** to go through with it and even when I saw how they did it, it floored me....I mean, really floored me..even though I was kinda expecting it, I was still like "no way". I remember not being able to quit thinking about it for days after it aired. To be able to consistantly trick the audience, surpise us, shock us and keep us entertained through the whole thing is cinematic magic and in that respect, the show has really lost alot of it's edge.

I think we love to speculate, but we really want to be wrong.

Dark Passenger
11-29-2011, 12:01 PM
Gotta agree 100% about Olmos, definitely underused here - he's definitely Lithgow level in my mind too! Even though I do think he hasn't been utilized to his potential, he is still a very strong character as seen through Travis' eyes. He makes the storyline seem believable, like he could really be that type of guy who twists the Bible to fit his desires. Hanks could not do that alone, he's really added very little to the storyline for me.

Just remember: from season 4 Lithgow himself said that he wasn't won over by the show itself, he said the deciding factor was that they told him the ending and swore him to secrecy. He thought it was so brilliant that he couldn't refuse it. The writing is what gave Lithgow the chance to really shine as Trinity and the pitch to Lithgow was brilliant.

To me, it's crystal clear that the fail is that this season has been so predictable. If you look back over this whole thread you'll see many times how wrong we all were when we'd speculate on the twists and turns. That's what has made the show so good for me. Even though alot of us figured they might kill Rita off, I think deep down inside we figured they wouldn't have the ***** to go through with it and even when I saw how they did it, it floored me....I mean, really floored me..even though I was kinda expecting it, I was still like "no way". I remember not being able to quit thinking about it for days after it aired. To be able to consistantly trick the audience, surpise us, shock us and keep us entertained through the whole thing is cinematic magic and in that respect, the show has really lost alot of it's edge.

I think we love to speculate, but we really want to be wrong.

:goodpost: Great points here.

cokebabies
11-29-2011, 02:07 PM
To me, the show has never really been that surprising. Granted, I may have made myself numb to some surprises by re-watching the show so much, but really there's only been a handful of "holy ____!" moments for me. Rita dying, killing off Doakes (although that was something you kind of figured had to happen after Dexter captured him), and a few other minor things.

The show's genius, for me, has just been fantastic writing and solid acting performances. I don't need twists and shocks, I just want the show to be well-written. Writing which, this season, I'm (and this truly pains me to say) rather indifferent to. By this point in the season Dexter has more of a "cool, new episode of Dexter" feel to it, not the "hlgdhhdshjkasggshjkgjhkgjhkjhk WHY HASN'T IT AIRED YET!!!!!????" feel it always has had for me.

Mr. EcKo
11-29-2011, 02:16 PM
I think we're in for a shocking EPIC episodes to come. I think they have been playing us all season with the DDK . it was too obvious from the start . NEXT FEW EPISODES ARE GUNNA B EPIC - WATCH

cokebabies
11-29-2011, 02:17 PM
I think we're in for a shocking EPIC episodes to come. I think they have been playing us all season with the DDK . it was too obvious from the start . NEXT FEW EPISODES ARE GUNNA B EPIC - WATCH

I am kind of thinking (and hoping) that the "OMG Gellar was in his mind!!!" twist might be something of a misdirection, where it's the "shock" we're looking for, while something even wilder is brewing.

Droog Alex
11-29-2011, 02:33 PM
I am kind of thinking (and hoping) that the "OMG Gellar was in his mind!!!" twist might be something of a misdirection, where it's the "shock" we're looking for, while something even wilder is brewing.

With the Collector? With Deb? With that collector dude and that big booty intern from the start? I think, more than anything...

What could occur, is that they'll leave us with a 'cliffhanger' that will leave us wondering for months once the season ends.

cokebabies
11-29-2011, 02:59 PM
With the Collector? With Deb? With that collector dude and that big booty intern from the start? I think, more than anything...

What could occur, is that they'll leave us with a 'cliffhanger' that will leave us wondering for months once the season ends.

One thing with the collector is that with all of his IT involvements, he could have some very interesting information on Dexter and his browsing / searching history.

Kamandi
11-29-2011, 03:02 PM
This... great post.

http://starbaseatlanta.com/catalog/images/bgts188C[1].jpg

Frakin' A, baby.

Calcifer
11-29-2011, 03:08 PM
One thing with the collector is that with all of his IT involvements, he could have some very interesting information on Dexter and his browsing / searching history.

I was just thinking about that, It would be pretty easy to work out he's a serial killer since almost all the felons Dexter has researched end up missing.

cokebabies
11-29-2011, 03:17 PM
I was just thinking about that, It would be pretty easy to work out he's a serial killer since almost all the felons Dexter has researched end up missing.

Yeah, and since he's obviously obsessed with / in man-love with Dexter, his knowledge of Dexter's activities, combined with his other issues could mean he will be the real interesting story by season's end.

Droog Alex
11-29-2011, 03:17 PM
One thing with the collector is that with all of his IT involvements, he could have some very interesting information on Dexter and his browsing / searching history.

I was just thinking about that, It would be pretty easy to work out he's a serial killer since almost all the felons Dexter has researched end up missing.

BINGO!!!! :hi5:

Mr. EcKo
11-29-2011, 04:29 PM
new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5XQX0c-Zwo&feature=feedu

die
11-29-2011, 04:37 PM
Looks promising! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for something epic too!

Mr. EcKo
11-29-2011, 04:47 PM
LOLZ , its so funny how easy Dex got outta the basement .

die
11-30-2011, 07:53 AM
Exactly, sometimes they fix stuff so fast and easy like that and all you can do is laugh. I almost fell out on the floor for real in Season 3 with how The Skinner was handled!!!!

Kamandi
11-30-2011, 08:08 AM
Season 3 = big fail.

LOLZ , its so funny how easy Dex got outta the basement .

Just as well. I wasn't interested in watching Dexter be trapped in a basement for a whole episode.

I didn't think it made sense they had a deep freeze in the basement and they fit it through a trap door under the alter. There was enough stuff in that basement it was easy to see there must be another door.

Mr. EcKo
11-30-2011, 11:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYHkYioEzF8&feature=feedu

Dark Passenger
11-30-2011, 06:15 PM
LOL. A trap door and a door leading outside. Why have a trap door?

SwedishHeat
11-30-2011, 06:41 PM
LOL. A trap door and a door leading outside. Why have a trap door?

Wasn't it on a stage?? It's pretty common to have trap doors on stages, for quick entrances and exits.

Calcifer
11-30-2011, 07:03 PM
Why did dex even go down there to begin with, I know he could hear the motor but did he think Gellar went down there? Down the trap door that was "covered by a statue":cuckoo:

darthviper107
11-30-2011, 09:00 PM
Wasn't it on a stage?? It's pretty common to have trap doors on stages, for quick entrances and exits.

In a church?

SwedishHeat
11-30-2011, 09:40 PM
Lots of churches have productions. They host many different events, live music, plays, etc. Usually churches host recreations of nativity scene and all those Easter and Christmas programs.

It's fairly common to have a raised platform at the front of a church, where the preacher gives his sermon and all that jazz.

noisetrigger
11-30-2011, 11:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYHkYioEzF8&feature=feedu

Thanks for the video. Now that they put it that way, I can see it's a nice idea in written but just not executed very well.

DinoLast
12-01-2011, 06:59 AM
Why did dex even go down there to begin with, I know he could hear the motor but did he think Gellar went down there? Down the trap door that was "covered by a statue":cuckoo:

There was debris on floor showing that the statue had been moved on many occasions.

Calcifer
12-01-2011, 07:16 AM
There was debris on floor showing that the statue had been moved on many occasions.

Even so, my point is if Dex was under the impression Gellar went down there how did he move the statue back over the trap door after himself with Travis unconscious!:cuckoo:

Droog Alex
12-01-2011, 07:23 AM
Even so, my point is if Dex was under the impression Gellar went down there how did he move the statue back over the trap door after himself with Travis unconscious!:cuckoo:
That's a production goof, no doubt. Good pick-up.

bloodgear
12-01-2011, 07:35 AM
I haven't enjoyed this season so much. I really hope it improves towards the end stretch.

Dark Passenger
12-01-2011, 08:20 PM
I'm pretty disappointed too. The only real twists I can see is maybe Gellar was killed after killing Travis' sister? Hence maybe Travis doesn't fit the Code and Gellar hasn't been dead as long as we think?

Debra finding out. Finally.

Louis finding out Dexter is The Ice Truck Killer's brother.

Other then that, eh. This season is good so far, not as bad as 5 and 3, but a middle season IMO.

CelticPredator
12-01-2011, 08:24 PM
No season in this show has been bad to me.

5 had some good ____ in it. Don't care what anyone says. :lecture :D

Dark Passenger
12-01-2011, 08:25 PM
I actually enjoyed Season 3. I agree, 5 is not a bad season, but some are better than others.

1,4,2,3,5 IMO

Calcifer
12-01-2011, 08:31 PM
I actually enjoyed Season 3. I agree, 5 is not a bad season, but some are better than others.

1,4,2,3,5 IMO

:exactly::goodpost:

I'd personally switch 1 with 4 but they are close.

CelticPredator
12-01-2011, 08:35 PM
I agree. 5 is my least favorite. But I can't say I didn't enjoy it.

noisetrigger
12-01-2011, 09:06 PM
Two is my favourite. It really feels like there will not be another season and then it ends with a literal bang LOL.

Currently, I feel like this season is weaker than five. I was watching five again and it's actually quite good. At least the pacing is miles ahead of the current season. Season six feels all over the place.

Kamandi
12-01-2011, 09:55 PM
I liked season 2 a lot

Having Dexter's victims all on tables and Miami PD and FBI examining them.... there was a real feeling that he could get caught.

And then of course there was Doakes.... Dex's best foil. It's a shame he's gone.

Lila was smoking hot too.

Dark Passenger
12-01-2011, 11:42 PM
Doakes was such an awesome character. Him and Dexter still had some of the best dialogue ever. Remember when Dexter was asking Doeakes about Harry and Doakes said from in his cage, "Why don't we go outside and talk about this man, I can really use some air?" and they both laughed. GREAT character, should've lasted longer.

Now we have Quinn and Batista smoking weed and fighting in the grass.

Mr. EcKo
12-01-2011, 11:48 PM
And when Doakes said come on lets go. Just put me in the trunk . Lets go

Dark Passenger
12-01-2011, 11:50 PM
And when Doakes said come on lets go. Just put me in the trunk . Lets go

:lol Yeah, tie me up and throw me in the trunk, c'mon.

He was also a stand up guy. Remember when Batista honestly told the IA dude Doakes fired first. And then the officer bumped Batista and Doakes demanded he apologize in front of the station.

RIP James "The Bay Harbor Butcher" Doakes

Mr. EcKo
12-01-2011, 11:55 PM
Yup... " you just bumped into your superior, I think you owe detective Batista an apology " damn I wish Doakes came back as Laguertas figment of her imagination like Harry is. Lolz. I miss Sgt James Doakes

noisetrigger
12-02-2011, 01:15 AM
Yup... " you just bumped into your superior, I think you owe detective Batista an apology " damn I wish Doakes came back as Laguertas figment of her imagination like Harry is. Lolz. I miss Sgt James Doakes

That is a great scene for me. It shows that although Doakes is being jerk to Dexter, he is a standup cop and respected Batista for doing what he had to do.

cokebabies
12-02-2011, 01:23 AM
Yeah, as fantastic as that story line was, it wasn't worth it for the loss of my second favorite character.

He just made every scene and story line better. And he was funny as hell. Without a doubt, the hardest I've laughed at anything on this show was when they cut from Dexter's monologue to "Stop grinning like a ____ing psycho and get back to work!" Genius.

And the fact that he could be funny, threatening, and actually caring, sometimes all at the same time - such a great character. I loved his reaction to finding Dexter at NA... actually (mildly) concerned for Dexter, but at the very least completely understanding of the situation Dexter was "in". Then, of course, he ends on "And you owe me a new Michelin, you mother____er!"

RIP James Doakes.

CelticPredator
12-02-2011, 02:54 AM
I wish they would go right off the left field, and show Doakes breaking free of his locks, and shoving another man in his place. And then escaping. While secretly shoving his DNA into him.

:dunno

Dark Passenger
12-02-2011, 03:04 AM
Yeah, as fantastic as that story line was, it wasn't worth it for the loss of my second favorite character.

He just made every scene and story line better. And he was funny as hell. Without a doubt, the hardest I've laughed at anything on this show was when they cut from Dexter's monologue to "Stop grinning like a ____ing psycho and get back to work!" Genius.

And the fact that he could be funny, threatening, and actually caring, sometimes all at the same time - such a great character. I loved his reaction to finding Dexter at NA... actually (mildly) concerned for Dexter, but at the very least completely understanding of the situation Dexter was "in". Then, of course, he ends on "And you owe me a new Michelin, you mother____er!"

RIP James Doakes.

That was one of the best things ever written. :monkey2

Dark Passenger
12-02-2011, 03:09 AM
I wish they would go right off the left field, and show Doakes breaking free of his locks, and shoving another man in his place. And then escaping. While secretly shoving his DNA into him.

:dunno

But he has to show up for work as Sargent and everyone has to be like nothing even happened.

I'm OK with that.

Calcifer
12-02-2011, 04:49 AM
damn I wish Doakes came back as Laguertas figment of her imagination like Harry is. Lolz. I miss Sgt James Doakes

I wish they would go right off the left field, and show Doakes breaking free of his locks, and shoving another man in his place. And then escaping. While secretly shoving his DNA into him.

:dunno


:lurking

..........

Ash Housewares
12-02-2011, 05:02 AM
Doakes was amazing. I actually really miss Rita aswell. Her character did change drastically after season 1 but I loved the flip side to dexters killings. My order of series is 4,1,2,3,5 and this series doesn't even compare.

Kamandi
12-02-2011, 05:31 AM
The damn shame of it is Erik King hasn't had a major role since Doakes was written out. He has action star written all over him.

pixletwin
12-02-2011, 07:31 AM
I miss doakes too. :monkey2

xYx
12-02-2011, 07:47 AM
I miss Doakes & Biney. :(

Good thing they're both alive in the books:yess:

Ash Housewares
12-02-2011, 09:20 AM
Biney was lame in that episode Nebraska. His character was trying to hard to be funny. Scott Buck sucks.

pixletwin
12-02-2011, 10:01 AM
Biney was lame in that episode Nebraska. His character was trying to hard to be funny. Scott Buck sucks.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_9Lbjt8uCVuk/SLKyg8ksbwI/AAAAAAAAATo/wuZpNV0O5lM/s320/curmudgeon.jpg

Mr. EcKo
12-02-2011, 11:04 AM
:fireworks:fireworks My 4,000 th Post !!!! :fireworks:fireworks


DEXTER LOVES BINEY

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http://www.sho.com/site/dexter/season3/dexter_PC.zip

Thankyou for your time

Dark Passenger
12-02-2011, 12:42 PM
Biney was lame in that episode Nebraska. His character was trying to hard to be funny. Scott Buck sucks.

http://i54.tinypic.com/10fdw5w.jpg

preeny101
12-02-2011, 12:48 PM
RIP Sgt. James Doakes

"Can we please secure this mutha _____*ing crime scene?"

Mr. EcKo
12-02-2011, 12:51 PM
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9317/dexter2pz1.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/127/dexter2pz1.gif/)

:monkey2 I miss those days


Biney was lame in that episode Nebraska. His character was trying to hard to be funny. Scott Buck sucks.

BINEY CAN NEVER SUCK

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5746/icetruckkillerqc2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/81/icetruckkillerqc2.jpg/)

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6032/s01e1203up5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/296/s01e1203up5.jpg/)

Mr. EcKo
12-02-2011, 01:38 PM
SICK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYg_U-AYYhs&feature=related

cokebabies
12-02-2011, 01:57 PM
I miss Doakes & Biney. :(

Good thing they're both alive in the books:yess:

Although it's barely even Doakes now. It's half Doakes half iPad.

xYx
12-02-2011, 03:49 PM
Although it's barely even Doakes now. It's half Doakes half iPad.

Better than Doakes free Dexter

"I have my eyes on you mother_____**r!"


BINEY CAN NEVER SUCK

QFT

Dark Passenger
12-02-2011, 08:05 PM
I like when the prostitute is trying to stick up for Debra and in mid sentence Doakes looks at Debra, and cuts the ho off with a "Who the f___ is that?!?" while pointing at the prostitute with his thumb.

Morbach
12-03-2011, 07:57 AM
Doakes's best line was to the cuban's. "suck my ____ mother____er, you understand that ____?" :rotfl

Dark Passenger
12-03-2011, 02:38 PM
I have been hoping this season picks it up and according to this article, there is something that happens this season that will set up the end and will take 2 seasons to tell.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/02/dexter-series-end-game/

YoNoSe
12-03-2011, 02:46 PM
That is encouraging but I hope whatever they have planned will not be as contrived as the imaginary Geller. They seem to think that was pretty clever, too.

Fingers crossed and looking forward to tomorrow!

Dark Passenger
12-03-2011, 02:53 PM
I think it will have to do with Debra seeing Dexter be Dexter.

Calcifer
12-03-2011, 04:18 PM
What if new evidence emerges that proves Doakes innocent and the Bay harbor butcher case is back on.

Mr. EcKo
12-03-2011, 04:22 PM
I think its gunna be something to do with Trinity / Jonah and the FBI finding out who Kyle Butler is .. It has to , why did they throw that random episode into season 6 ? It doesn't make any sense besides setting it up for some sort of Trinity reboot or ........

Calcifer
12-03-2011, 04:30 PM
I think its gunna be something to do with Trinity / Jonah and the FBI finding out who Kyle Butler is .. It has to , why did they throw that random episode into season 6 ? It doesn't make any sense besides setting it up for some sort of Trinity reboot or ........

No I don't think there is anything more to the trinity story, deb already found out he had been down there that could have turned out worse but it didn't ,It really does seem that episode was just a nod to the fans of Trinity and Brian more then anything else.

I would like to think the Quinn/liddy storyline might resume but it really does seem like Quinn just didn't bother pursuing him, I mean it's set what? 2 years since season 5?:dunno



O and it would be super lame dragging out the trinity storyline to try and make the last two seasons epic, because it just wouldn't work.

SwedishHeat
12-03-2011, 07:48 PM
I think that bit was thrown in there because

A) they wanted to explore the idea of Brian as Dexter's Dark Passenger, see how it would actually manifest itself. Which would've been better if it was developed more, over a few episodes, but the way I understand it was that Christian Camargo was not available for an extended period of time.

B) to drive a wedge between Dex and Deb, to 1) have Deb start question Dexter more, setting up her eventual discovery of him and 2) move her away from her current role in the show, to get her out of her brother and father's shadow

dino76m
12-03-2011, 08:06 PM
i think it has something to do with deb and dex and debra finally trying to find what dex is upto

YoNoSe
12-03-2011, 08:41 PM
If Deb lets it slip to Quinn that Dexter was off visiting Jonah, Quinn will be all over it. He gave up on it (if I remember correctly) because he was into Deb and decided there wasn't enough there to pursue it if it was going to mess things up. Now that she dumped him there'd be no reason not to pursue it.

dino76m
12-03-2011, 09:28 PM
i think theres going to be a lot more, like for one the missing ice truck killers hand, dex doesnt know it yet, somehow everything will connect the dots over next 2 years, batista could end up visiting the tech guy , find the hand, who knows , it could take a 100 new directions, debra finding the pen. the body could be found one day and deb would recognise the place

Droog Alex
12-03-2011, 10:43 PM
I think it will have to do with Debra seeing Dexter be Dexter.

i think it has something to do with deb and dex and debra finally trying to find what dex is upto

That's the only way to end the show...

No other way. Now, how they do it, what events happen afterwards et., will be vital. I said that a few weeks ago, the show will just be garbage IMO if Deb finds out, and then they try to extend it, operating with that happening...

Droog Alex
12-03-2011, 10:47 PM
Just read what I said in prior posts about this...

Deb needs to find out who he is. Especially with the position she's in. And then, when that happens...they cant milk any further, because then it will be a just another hack show on a cable network that had a great past.

Which is why, I can see them bringing back Lumen, and doing other things, whether you like it or not, just to get us to watch every week, regardless of quality. Now, that does not mean that they cant get creative and explore other avenues that we have not thought about or can even conceive to conjure up, which can blow our minds. It can happen...

But that is not the norm on TV. We shall hope for the best.

It will be hard to milk multiple episodes, a whole season after a cliffhanger like that, with both knowing. Without losing the sharpness of the dialogue and keeping some semblance of reality. I know its a show, and we can immerse ourselves in disbelief and even suspend realism for a tad, but eventually, that can't go too far.

Which is why, if they head in that direction, it would be with sis knowing and Dexter still thinking he has not been exposed to anyone. Then, that can loop back to Lumen, who is the only living person that 'knows' and tie many things up together from prior years.

Oh, and Deb knows that he is weird, but based on losing Rita, him prior to that just being a lost soul, the Biney thing et., and without implying it blatantly, the writers have dropped that on us about Deb. It's a matter of when will she start many of the loose ends together and then the eventual...BAM.

Just my two cents...

Here's the problem with leaving that a cliffhanger, how can they manage a WHOLE another 12 episodes with Deb knowing? Unless, they set it up where Deb knows, but Dexter doesnt know, she knows.

To me, also...the season is setting up for:

Deb finally knowing her brother's darkest secrets. She's in a position of power and the dichotomy and dilemma she could face would make for a breath taking finale... Deb knows his secrets in the 1st book, the only book of reference the writers of the show have used. And they have stated strongly they'll never use any of the books, but that plot line is still out there and one from the first that has not been touched.


Just read all my past prior posts... :lecture :clap

cokebabies
12-04-2011, 01:07 AM
It turns out that Doakes's death was a coverup, and he had been working undercover. Now he will be back for the last two seasons! :clap:hi5::yess:

noisetrigger
12-04-2011, 02:19 AM
It turns out that Doakes's death was a coverup, and he had been working undercover. Now he will be back for the last two seasons! :clap:hi5::yess:

As much as I love Doakes, bringing him back would be a jumping the shark move for me. They concluded his story very well (tragic yes, but still very well done, pun intended)

Morbach
12-04-2011, 10:05 AM
something is going to last 2 seasons and is their "end game"? hast to be Deb catching him. ____ is about to get real!

DFanatic
12-04-2011, 01:32 PM
Does anyone know of site where I might be able to stream tonight's episode?

I had no luck finding streams this season and I don't want to wait to watch it the next day! Thanks in advance http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Calcifer
12-04-2011, 01:58 PM
Does anyone know of site where I might be able to stream tonight's episode?

I had no luck finding streams this season and I don't want to wait to watch it the next day! Thanks in advance http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif


I use this.

http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/Dexter_209/

Mr. EcKo
12-04-2011, 03:40 PM
Tonight's The Night

Calcifer
12-04-2011, 04:01 PM
I wonder how laguerta and Matthews will take care of Deb?

Batty
12-04-2011, 07:26 PM
Not exactly the most exciting episode tonight. I guess they're leaving that for the final two.

I want to know why it took Dex trips to two different places and looking up info online to find Holly, yet Travis somehow was able to pull up just seconds behind her at the marina. Did I miss something? :confused:

YoNoSe
12-04-2011, 07:35 PM
Not exactly the most exciting episode tonight. I guess they're leaving that for the final two.

I want to know why it took Dex trips to two different places and looking up info online to find Holly, yet Travis somehow was able to pull up just seconds behind her at the marina. Did I miss something? :confused:

Maybe it's like True Blood. Once she drank his blood he always knows where she is. :lol

die
12-04-2011, 07:35 PM
I called it on the videogame thing :rotfl

Looks like a serious cliffhanger headed our way for the end of this season (probably like how the death of the Skinner in Episode 3 wasn't the cliffhanger itself in that season, the formula will be similar). They are definitely putting the pieces together for it. They are very much stressing the Dex/Debra relationship that has been NON-EXISTANT for pretty the past 4 seasons. She should end up in a strange situation, possibly having info on Dex that coincides with all his secretive "personal buisness" (which would tie in with having info on Mathews, and a "what should I do" type of dilemna)

You also got Quinn, who's screwing up has put his partners life in danger - perhaps that will change him?

I have a feeling that the LONG wait until the next season will be much more painful this time around. I F'ing hate you for that, Showtime.

pixletwin
12-04-2011, 08:23 PM
usually the torrents have this uploaded, but so far is nada. :(

Morbach
12-04-2011, 08:29 PM
Good episode tonight. The next 2 eps look serious.

Dark Passenger
12-04-2011, 09:52 PM
I thought it was a good one today. It ended a little weird but a nice episode.

They're setting up something. Too many Dexter/Ice Truck Killer/Deb conversations. Something is going to happen.

Batista getting F'ed up or dieing is all Quinn's fault. I am really sick of Quinn this year. He was an awesome likable character last year and this year it is just.... ugh.

Maybe Louis isn't a crazy, just a collector. He doesn't seem to know about Dexter, even though that would be awesome. And Dexter being offended at someone wanting to be a serial killer?! Is he going to start a support group for serial killers being misunderstood? Maybe have a newsletter to help us better understand them?

EDIT** Just read a theory that Louis is Dexter's nephew/Brian's son. If that's true I am going to apply for a writing job as a Showrunner.

Calcifer
12-05-2011, 05:46 AM
Once the police start investigating that dead "whore" on the boat couldn't there investigations lead them back to her boyfriends home and to his daughter who had been talking with Dexter! What if she tells them a man fitting Dexter's descriptions came asking about her?

die
12-05-2011, 06:38 AM
Maybe Louis isn't a crazy, just a collector. He doesn't seem to know about Dexter, even though that would be awesome. And Dexter being offended at someone wanting to be a serial killer?! Is he going to start a support group for serial killers being misunderstood? Maybe have a newsletter to help us better understand them?


I took it that Dexter was just manipulating the situation. Seems like he knew that he could upset Louis by saying that and get him to leave, thus giving Dexter a babysitter for the evening. I don't think Dexter was actually offended though, just my take. I also don't think the writers could really swing having Louis be an actual badguy per se, but with his computer skills and the right motivation, I could see him figuring Dexter out easily (which would lead to some serious drama) and Dexter shunning him could motivate him. Looks like that's where it's heading anyways. Would be too much of a stretch to have the guy as another secret killer in Miami.



Once the police start investigating that dead "whore" on the boat couldn't there investigations lead them back to her boyfriends home and to his daughter who had been talking with Dexter! What if she tells them a man fitting Dexter's descriptions came asking about her?

That could be interesting. The police sketch from the description could be linked to "Kyle Butler", which compiled with Quinn's guilt over not doing his job and getting Batista hurt/killed could motivate him to go after Dexter again (which would make sense and help him to get back at Debra now that they're not together, possibly thinking that he could even win her back and take Dexter's place in her life)

Like I said though, I feel like the DDK will probably just be a quick fix and the real ender will be much more of an impact. Travis really sucks as a bad guy.

noisetrigger
12-05-2011, 07:31 AM
Nice episode. At least things seem to be moving a long briskly now. Can't wait for next episode. Seems like we are in for some major bang and I believe at least one series regular will die.

Calcifer
12-05-2011, 07:47 AM
Anyone else feel the deb/dex relationship is possibly becoming romantic? :yuck

darthviper107
12-05-2011, 07:48 AM
Anyone else feel the deb/dex relationship is possibly becoming romantic? :yuck

Only you I think

Mr. EcKo
12-05-2011, 07:50 AM
Great Episode :clap

Ok here we go.....

Travis Is Nuckin Futs , finally some decent acting by lil Tom Hanks :clap

The Painting of the False Prophet has Dexters Face . Freaking Awesome.

Deb getting a panic attack at the church ... WTF?

Quinn Fu&%ing up again , I seen that coming with Batista getting beat in the head . I hope he's ok , I predict that Quinn will save him and redeem himself for being a lush A hole .

Louis ... IDK what to think , i think Dexter played it off to piss Louis off so he could have Jamie babysit . I wanted to see that game!!!!! We woulda seen Doakes again in Nintendo 64 graphics :lol

Still no other talk or scenes with the Ice Truck Killer evidence (hand)

Chief Matthews is F%^KED now , Deb knows ... I wonder how that plays out . Maybe she will just shrug it off like she did in Season 5 , Eps 12 when she found Jordan Chase dead and saw Lumen & Dex

Laguera is still a C&%T

I wish Masuka was still getting some attention from that hot piece of a ss . Poor Masuka :(

I think after this season , Deb will step down as LT , she doesn't fit in for that role in the department IMO , She's a Det. and needs to be out there in the sh^t .

( Mr. Laguerta)Batista will finally get what he deserves by being promoted to LT and he will be a damn good one to . He will railroad Laguerta and get her the F off the show i hope.

Wood Worm will be released @ Miami Metro but it won't work for some reason .. as by next weeks trailer it shows that chick from the Blog showing up @ Miami Metro an asking for Deb .

Maybe Deb dies this season :horror:panic::monkey2

Calcifer
12-05-2011, 08:01 AM
Only you I think



I can't help but feel it might be headed in that direction!:dunno

http://bcove.me/6wooho3r




Maybe Deb dies this season :horror:panic::monkey2

2 more seasons without deb? ..not a chance!:lecture

darthviper107
12-05-2011, 08:04 AM
I can't help but feel it might be headed in that direction!:dunno

http://bcove.me/6wooho3r




2 more seasons without deb? ..not a chance!:lecture

It's OK for a sister to love her brother, they have a long way to go before it's incest

die
12-05-2011, 08:22 AM
It's OK for a sister to love her brother, they have a long way to go before it's incest

Yeah, like making them actually be blood-related!

I gotta admit, it seems like there may be some undertones there...the preview for next week kinda had a moment...I do really hope they don't go there though, i just don't like that idea nor do I like the idea of killing Debra off. I could see her being in peril and Dexter going through pure hell to save her or something, but not killing her off.

I like what Ecko was saying here about Deb stepping down and Batista coming out a hero in the DDK case and getting promoted. It just feels like they will kill somebody off, seems like it's time - I was thinking it would be either Quinn or Batista, seems like that's where they were going, but I like Ecko's idea on this!

Calcifer
12-05-2011, 08:34 AM
Watching the trailer again, a few things that were in there.

- Quinn busting into a room on fire to rescue angel tied up on the bed
-Bloody hand on glass has a ring on it's finger.
-Doomsday Adam and wife dead in a pool of blood, appear to be in there own home.
- Dexter and deb in an intimate looking moment!:lol

die
12-05-2011, 11:08 AM
- Dexter and deb in an intimate looking moment!:lol

Exactly! I know they aren't blood related and I know they were married in real life, but why did that scene make me feel so uncomfortable? :thud:

darthviper107
12-05-2011, 11:55 AM
Exactly! I know they aren't blood related and I know they were married in real life, but why did that scene make me feel so uncomfortable? :thud:

She has the body of a young boy?

die
12-05-2011, 12:40 PM
That might actually be it :rotfl

Darth Caedus
12-05-2011, 12:52 PM
- Dexter and deb in an intimate looking moment!:lol

Exactly! I know they aren't blood related and I know they were married in real life, but why did that scene make me feel so uncomfortable? :thud:

That made me feel SOOOOOOO uncomfortable.

I think the beginning of the end of the series will be Deb seeing Dex's face as the false prophet in the painting.

316what
12-05-2011, 01:18 PM
I want to know why it took Dex trips to two different places and looking up info online to find Holly, yet Travis somehow was able to pull up just seconds behind her at the marina. Did I miss something? :confused:

Tebow told Travis.:yess:

Batty
12-05-2011, 02:42 PM
Tebow told Travis.:yess:

Ah, that explains it! :lol

Calcifer
12-05-2011, 03:25 PM
Watching the trailer again, a few things that were in there.

- Quinn busting into a room on fire to rescue angel tied up on the bed
-Bloody hand on glass has a ring on it's finger.
-Doomsday Adam and wife dead in a pool of blood, appear to be in there own home.
- Dexter and deb in an intimate looking moment!:lol


I have to correct myself, the bodies on the floor are probably not Mr and Mrs Doomsday, as Dexter already killed Adam on the boat, my bet is the bloody hand on the window belongs to his missus given the ring on the finger looks like a wedding ring.


Exactly! I know they aren't blood related and I know they were married in real life, but why did that scene make me feel so uncomfortable? :thud:


It's pretty ____ed up alright, but I'm surprised Dexter is giving into it!:dunno, I mean fair enough Debs the one who's getting brainwashed by that shrink into doing it, but whats Dexter excuse?

Ash Housewares
12-05-2011, 03:51 PM
If Dex and Deb hook up then that is it for me. Last nights EP was quite good but everytime it looks like things are back in track there's a mistep.

Dark Passenger
12-05-2011, 04:15 PM
They aren't hooking up you sickos.

They are setting up her love for her brother so that when the time comes for her to choose turning him as a killer or letting him go, it is more dramatic.

Twisted people here, I tell ya.

Calcifer
12-05-2011, 04:19 PM
They aren't hooking up you sickos.

They are setting up her love for her brother so that when the time comes for her to choose turning him as a killer or letting him go, it is more dramatic.

Twisted people here, I tell ya.

:lol Look at the trailer again! brother and sisters aren't supposed to stare at each other that way!:horror

Dark Passenger
12-05-2011, 04:26 PM
:lol Look at the trailer again! brother and sisters aren't supposed to stare at each other that way!:horror

I really really don't think that's it, but if it is..... I'm selling all my Dexter stuff.

Looks like Dex visiting Deb in the hospital after Wormwood and just having a moment of caring about his sister.

Morbach
12-05-2011, 05:05 PM
I truly do not think dex and deb are being romantic :lol

Darth Caedus
12-05-2011, 05:10 PM
Deb and Dex aren't blood....so technically it's not wrong, just a little creepy