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316what
10-24-2011, 11:19 AM
I agree, Mos was awesome again. Sadly I think that might have been his last episode, I read he was only signed on for three episodes.
6 episodes according to IMDB.
Kamandi
10-24-2011, 11:58 AM
I'm also on board with Giant Chicken's theory. I think Collin Hanks...
...either has multiple personality disorder or Olmos is a ghost the same way Dex's father is, perhaps both. Hanks probably had Olmos as a teacher years ago and is responsible for both stealing the sword and the death of Olmos' Professor character
preeny101
10-24-2011, 12:05 PM
I'm also on board with Giant Chicken's theory. I think Collin Hanks...
...either has multiple personality disorder or Olmos is a ghost the same way Dex's father is, perhaps both. Hanks probably had Olmos as a teacher years ago and is responsible for both stealing the sword and the death of Olmos' Professor character
:lecture:lecture:lecture
No one else acknowledges Gellar. The scene in the diner was a dead givaway. Nice red herring, though, having the execution method and method of dismemberment seeming to be from two different people. To me now, just shows how twisted Travis is.
Kamandi
10-24-2011, 12:10 PM
Also in the scene with the girl in the kitchen I don't think she looks at Geller even though he presumably was there first.
Dark Passenger
10-24-2011, 12:10 PM
6 episodes according to IMDB.
Awesome. I am really impressed with his acting. I didn't expect him to be as good as he is.
Kamandi
10-24-2011, 12:13 PM
Awesome. I am really impressed with his acting. I didn't expect him to be as good as he is.
He was really good a few years back in "Something the Lord Made" where he plays a corrective heart surgeon back during segregation.
Devil_666
10-24-2011, 02:05 PM
I'm on board with Giant Chicken's theory as well. But I like how an alternate explanation is there for all the odd occurrences too.
Mr. EcKo
10-24-2011, 03:49 PM
The season is starting to get good. I liked Anderson right away.
But one thing is bugging me
Where the hell is Cody & @Astor???????
They're still Dexter's step kids. Are they written off the show?
Batty
10-24-2011, 03:56 PM
The season is starting to get good. I liked Anderson right away.
But one thing is bugging me
Where the hell is Cody & @Astor???????
They're still Dexter's step kids. Are they written off the show?
With Rita's parents. Just like last season. :dunno
Devil_666
10-24-2011, 04:08 PM
Where the hell is Cody & @Astor???????
They're still Dexter's step kids.
They are, but Dexter never legally adopted them which means he has 0 parental rights. That's why Rita's parents got custody.
Dark Passenger
10-24-2011, 04:08 PM
The season is starting to get good. I liked Anderson right away.
But one thing is bugging me
Where the hell is Cody & @Astor???????
They're still Dexter's step kids. Are they written off the show?
I hope so. They got an honorable mention last night. Good riddance.
Mr. EcKo
10-24-2011, 04:12 PM
Its just weird that there no longer on the show. 5 seasons with them. No big deal Dex has his hands full with Harrison
TheReverend
10-24-2011, 07:57 PM
Saw episode 4... that final scene, the kill...was SICK!
ArmoredFoe
10-24-2011, 07:58 PM
Yeah that final kill reminded me of something from the SAW movies, lol.
TheReverend
10-24-2011, 07:59 PM
I hope so. They got an honorable mention last night. Good riddance.
In shows, its common to write them, they grow up too quick, rapid growth spurts et., don't coincide with time lines built on the show. Happens all the time.
Heck, that dope Walt from Lost hit puberty, started looking like LeBron James, so they had to write him off and eventually, used his development as part of 'flash forwards' well.
Kamandi
10-24-2011, 08:15 PM
I was glad they wrote Rita and the kids out. Julie Benz is a sexy monkey but I lost sympathy for how gullible Rita was after a while. I was actually rooting for Lila at one point. I had hoped they would write Harrison out as well. Maybe later.
Knowing that Jennifer Carpenter just divorced Michael C. Hall I keep wondering if something will happen to Debra.
ArmoredFoe
10-24-2011, 08:20 PM
I agree, get rid of the kid. I love teh show, but the whole family aspect of it besides Deb I can do with out. They just take away from whats really going on. The only family I care about on there is the police force family so to speak. Thats all the drama we need, leave the kids and wives/girlfriends out of Dexters life.
Teddy Daniels
10-25-2011, 04:02 PM
did anyone think the scene in the greenhouse was awkward?
i mean they watched the girl die in front of them (in Saw fashion i might add) then deb saying i have to save her........& dexter no she's already gone.........what's that buzzing?......i don't know nevermind this girl still twitching......let's go look in that closet
i love dexter but that was just poorly executed......(no pun intended)...:lol
Have to completely agree with this!
I found the last scene really poor!
I mean Dexter turns up at the scene of the crime and follows a trail of blood to the greenhouse and they all stand and stare like the guys a magician!
Like you said the kill was really poor and felt really awkward to me also
I love Dexter and I do love this season so far but this was not a good moment for me and actually made me dislike this episode :(
preeny101
10-25-2011, 04:22 PM
The episode was really intense. I enjoyed it. The only thing I didn't like was...
those crappy CGI locusts.
pixletwin
10-25-2011, 08:31 PM
Should have been masuka who led them to the greenhouse.
Blood Electricity
10-26-2011, 09:29 PM
I'm not a fan of the CGI this season. All the crime scene creepy crawly-s have looked incredibly fake to me.
Buttmunch
10-26-2011, 09:33 PM
Its a shame studios have gotten so reliant on CGI these days. CGI should be used as an enhancer for effects, not as a primary effect. They still look fake 95% of the time. They just lack the depth a real 3D object has.
darthviper107
10-26-2011, 10:01 PM
And you really expect them to release thousands of locusts on set?
Dark Passenger
10-27-2011, 02:23 AM
Should have been masuka who led them to the greenhouse.
Well, it was Dexter following a blood trail to the greenhouse, so it makes sense.
Dark Passenger
10-27-2011, 02:24 AM
That is the one thing I liked so much about the Ice Truck Killer's crime scenes. They were all real props and had a grittiness to them. The CGI does suck.
sueworld
10-27-2011, 05:42 AM
I agree, get rid of the kid. I love teh show, but the whole family aspect of it besides Deb I can do with out. They just take away from whats really going on. The only family I care about on there is the police force family so to speak. Thats all the drama we need, leave the kids and wives/girlfriends out of Dexters life.
Nah, I liked Rita and I like Harrison. It enables Dex to show another side to his character. There there to help enrich his characterization and I for one would hate It If they dropped that side of his life.
pixletwin
10-27-2011, 07:18 AM
Well, it was Dexter following a blood trail to the greenhouse, so it makes sense.
Yeah but it was the way it was done. It seemed so staged. Stuck out to me as really poorly executed. But what do I know? :lol
darthviper107
10-27-2011, 07:59 AM
I was just surprised no one else noticed it before he got there.
ArmoredFoe
10-27-2011, 08:16 AM
Nah, I liked Rita and I like Harrison. It enables Dex to show another side to his character. There there to help enrich his characterization and I for one would hate It If they dropped that side of his life.
See thats funny because I felt like they took away from his character. I agree that it does add a new dimension to his character, but I still feel it detracts from Dex.
Regarding Dexter leading the team to the greenhouse...I thought that was kind of wierd also that no one else noticed the blood trail except for Dexter.
Blood Electricity
10-27-2011, 09:41 AM
No, they aren't going to release locust on the set. But your telling me they couldn't have gotten 7 snakes for that one scene? That looks even worse than the locust. I guess they wanted it too look a certain way.
But like, the mannequins on the horse...looks friggin amazing. really unnerving stuff.
My point is, either take the time to create a better special effect, or use something else.
Also, I think getting rid of harrison would be pretty cheap. Getting rid of astor and cody was totally the writers not knowing what to do with the consequences of their own writting.
Dexter is still trying to connect with something and have a family. That baby is all he's got now. He was legitimately upset when his son was sick. That's a pretty powerful thing for him. So for the sake of the writting...He really isn't/can't be the dexter from season 1 anymore. It's been 5 seasons and this is what hes stuck with.
darthviper107
10-27-2011, 09:52 AM
I guess it depends on the snake--plus getting them to do what you want.
Besides, I think they looked just fine
sueworld
10-27-2011, 10:53 AM
No, they aren't going to release locust on the set. But your telling me they couldn't have gotten 7 snakes for that one scene? That looks even worse than the locust. I guess they wanted it too look a certain way.
But like, the mannequins on the horse...looks friggin amazing. really unnerving stuff.
My point is, either take the time to create a better special effect, or use something else.
Also, I think getting rid of harrison would be pretty cheap. Getting rid of astor and cody was totally the writers not knowing what to do with the consequences of their own writting.
Dexter is still trying to connect with something and have a family. That baby is all he's got now. He was legitimately upset when his son was sick. That's a pretty powerful thing for him. So for the sake of the writting...He really isn't/can't be the dexter from season 1 anymore. It's been 5 seasons and this is what hes stuck with.
Exactly. He has to progress or his character will be become stagnant imo. It's all the other characters that help support his story and also helps shape him emotionally one way or another.
Calcifer
10-27-2011, 12:32 PM
The whole point of the show is that this normal guy, lab geek/brother/father is actually a serial killer, look at Arther Mitchell did his family make him any less of a serial killer? ..NO!
The more you beef out his normal life with family,friends,work etc the more shocking it is that he's actually a serial killer.
Blood Electricity
10-27-2011, 07:06 PM
I try not to let my expectations of what I want or what I think should happen get ahead of me. That being said, I've enjoyed the show the whole way through!
I just hope that hanks starts to be a little more interesting. The second you saw trinity in the bathtub with that victim, you knew he was going to be a tough one. So far the only thing that really stands out about him is the 4 horseman. I assume he's just getting started though.
I have no idea where they will go with this season. It always gets really intense though, that's for sure.
Calcifer
10-27-2011, 07:58 PM
I try not to let my expectations of what I want or what I think should happen get ahead of me. That being said, I've enjoyed the show the whole way through!
I just hope that hanks starts to be a little more interesting. The second you saw trinity in the bathtub with that victim, you knew he was going to be a tough one. So far the only thing that really stands out about him is the 4 horseman. I assume he's just getting started though.
I have no idea where they will go with this season. It always gets really intense though, that's for sure.
Question is what will stop Dexter from killing hanks character straight away?..religion/belief?:dunno, In season 4 Dex was totally intrigued by Trinity and thus he held of on killing him until it was too late, how will his relationship with the doomsday killer play out?
Blood Electricity
10-27-2011, 11:19 PM
Yeah...it seems a little quick so far. Deb is already onto that guys mentor. Dexter has seen him as well. Maybe dexter is gonna bump heads with the new detective...doesn't wanna act to sudden and be caught by the new guy.
Calcifer
10-28-2011, 04:47 AM
Yeah...it seems a little quick so far. Deb is already onto that guys mentor. Dexter has seen him as well. Maybe dexter is gonna bump heads with the new detective...doesn't wanna act to sudden and be caught by the new guy.
Not sure if dex will bump heads with this guy like he did with Doakes, the only real interaction dex has had with the new detective so far has been pretty positive, he supported him in the conference room when Quinn was being a ____ to him.
Dark Passenger
10-28-2011, 05:12 PM
Not sure if dex will bump heads with this guy like he did with Doakes, the only real interaction dex has had with the new detective so far has been pretty positive, he supported him in the conference room when Quinn was being a ____ to him.
I think Quinn will continue to be the thorn in Dexter's side. I think Mike Anderson will like Dexter this season.
I still hope they would use the Dexter/Stan Liddy story! So much potential there for a great way for Deb to find out what Dexter really is.
Calcifer
10-28-2011, 05:25 PM
I think Quinn will continue to be the thorn in Dexter's side. I think Mike Anderson will like Dexter this season.
I still hope they would use the Dexter/Stan Liddy story! So much potential there for a great way for Deb to find out what Dexter really is.
Ya it would be fairly stupid if they never tie up that loose end!:dunno
I don't think the whole Deb/Quinn situation is enough reason for Quinn to continue pursuing Dexter, I think Dexter himself will need to do something to piss Quinn off to get that storyline going again.
TheReverend
10-28-2011, 05:32 PM
Ya it would be fairly stupid if they never tie up that loose end!:dunno
I don't think the whole Deb/Quinn situation is enough reason for Quinn to continue pursuing Dexter, I think Dexter himself will need to do something to piss Quinn off to get that storyline going again.
Yup. I agree...
But this is the season Deb should find out, especially with her recently gaining all this power and being elevated. The perfect dichotomy...
That IMO, will be the cliffhanger this season.
Blood Electricity
10-28-2011, 06:13 PM
Yeah...Although maybe it is a little obvious?
It could make for an interesting dynamic though..She obviously let dex and lumen go at the end of last season even though the law says she should have arrested them. Deb feeding dexter's dark side and just looking the other way to take out the trash.
Morbach
10-29-2011, 08:02 AM
loving this season. Sunday's ep looks to be crazy.
Good episode last night. Finally a bit of interaction between the new guy and Dexter, gotta wonder if that will go anywhere? Also, gotta wonder if the hottie intern is gone for good?
DFanatic
10-31-2011, 08:22 AM
So much for the "imaginary professor" theory I guess. You guys had me fooled for a while.
Mr. EcKo
10-31-2011, 08:36 AM
I knew Dex was in the back seat of Travis' car , I freakin knew it .
That was great it reminded me of
Season 1
Epsode 1
and the Mike Donovan kill
God i hope that sexxxxxy blonde comes back
Giant Chicken
10-31-2011, 09:48 AM
So much for the "imaginary professor" theory I guess. You guys had me fooled for a while.
Im still not convinced. We still have not seen him interact with anyone. He is obviously a real person but I am not convinced that he is with Travis. I could be totally wrong but this whole season he has not made eye contact or spoken to anyone but Travis.
DFanatic
10-31-2011, 10:46 AM
Im still not convinced. We still have not seen him interact with anyone. He is obviously a real person but I am not convinced that he is with Travis. I could be totally wrong but this whole season he has not made eye contact or spoken to anyone but Travis.
Yeah, but time and time again we see him interact with objects. The fact that Travis called him on his cellphone got be proof he is real. Oh, and when they were at the club Travis looks back and you can see the mug he was drinking from, meaning he is not imaginary.
darthviper107
10-31-2011, 10:54 AM
Remember all the stuff in Fight Club though--he could still be imaginary.
Remember how his old TA said he had been with many girls, how come he stopped doing that and is leading Travis? Perhaps Travis was learning under the professor and then killed him later on and he is still imagining him.
Dark Passenger
10-31-2011, 12:50 PM
I am sticking with The Giant Chicken's theory.
Giant Chicken
10-31-2011, 01:40 PM
couple of things...
1) Gellar's face was on the front page of the paper. They were both standing in a very public area and then later in the night club. Nobody recognizes him? He has a very unique face. Hard to hide IMO.
2) I think something is up with this new chick that studied under Gellar. She was/is obssesed with his teachings. I wonder if she has something to do with his vanishing.
3) The cell phone was a bit strange. Either the writers think they are smart and are going to pull a sixth sense on us (which I think is the case) OR they want us to start thinking that Gellar is fake and then surprise us that he is infact real (lame IMO).
If Gellar is infact fake I hope they tell us soon because I am beginning to get annoyed that they think they are fooling the audience. I feel that it is fairly obvious. Again, I could be totally wrong! We will see.
Morbach
10-31-2011, 02:54 PM
Wow. Last nights ep was great. I hope brother Sam survives :(
darthviper107
10-31-2011, 03:28 PM
Wow. Last nights ep was great. I hope brother Sam survives :(
If he was going to die he would died right then
cokebabies
10-31-2011, 03:42 PM
That's the downside to "Next Week on Dexter".
I assumed Sam was going to die, then three seconds later it's all, "don't worry!"
And apologies to Dark Passenger for the lack of screen accuracy for the boots, watch, and knife, but my Dexter costume for Halloween:
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1773/dd98l.jpg
Dark Passenger
10-31-2011, 04:41 PM
And apologies to Dark Passenger for the lack of screen accuracy for the boots, watch, and knife, but my Dexter costume for Halloween:
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1773/dd98l.jpg
No need to be sorry. Only obsessive compulsive crazies would spend $285 to get screen accurate boots and about $400 for the watch.
Costume looks great BTW! I went as Dexter too. Can you believe that?
cokebabies
10-31-2011, 07:21 PM
Costume looks great BTW! I went as Dexter too. Can you believe that?
I need a frilly white fan to keep me from passing out in shock!
Devil_666
11-01-2011, 12:14 AM
That's the downside to "Next Week on Dexter".
I assumed Sam was going to die, then three seconds later it's all, "don't worry!"
:lol Seriously.
Ash Housewares
11-02-2011, 06:57 PM
This season so far has taken a massive dump on season 5. Really enjoying it so far.
iCollect
11-03-2011, 05:34 AM
This season so far has taken a massive dump on season 5. Really enjoying it so far.
The pace is surely picking up...
DinoLast
11-03-2011, 07:02 AM
One thing I have noticed that is different to all the other seasons, is that Dexter so far is not under pressure of being discovered as a serial killer. Not that that's a bad thing.
DinoLast
11-03-2011, 07:06 AM
couple of things...
1) Gellar's face was on the front page of the paper. They were both standing in a very public area and then later in the night club. Nobody recognizes him? He has a very unique face. Hard to hide IMO.
2) I think something is up with this new chick that studied under Gellar. She was/is obssesed with his teachings. I wonder if she has something to do with his vanishing.
3) The cell phone was a bit strange. Either the writers think they are smart and are going to pull a sixth sense on us (which I think is the case) OR they want us to start thinking that Gellar is fake and then surprise us that he is infact real (lame IMO).
If Gellar is infact fake I hope they tell us soon because I am beginning to get annoyed that they think they are fooling the audience. I feel that it is fairly obvious. Again, I could be totally wrong! We will see.
I think Gellar was killed by Colin Hanks (Can't think of the character's name at the moment) that's why he saw blood on Gellar's head for a split second. Now he's imagining Gellar has come back, sent by God
Kamandi
11-03-2011, 07:29 AM
My wild-*** speculation follows:
You'll find out later Colin Hanks was talking to a dial tone or something. His mind invents ways for Geller to be real. I also think there will be a fight-club type scene later were you see Hanks doing the various painting the you've seen Olmos doing so far, Hanks talking to himself, etc...
Honestly it's time for Dexter to figure this out before the whole audience is onto the gag.
I also think the intern who took the ITK hand is going to meet an unfortunate end from Colin Hanks. The hand will show up later this season and Deb will learn he was Dexter's brother.
pixletwin
11-03-2011, 07:53 AM
I loved how Dexter captured him the same way he caught the boys choir dude in the first episode.
DinoLast
11-03-2011, 07:56 AM
My wild-*** speculation follows:
You'll find out later Colin Hanks was talking to a dial tone or something. His mind invents ways for Geller to be real. I also think there will be a fight-club type scene later were you see Hanks doing the various painting the you've seen Olmos doing so far, Hanks talking to himself, etc...
Honestly it's time for Dexter to figure this out before the whole audience is onto the gag.
I also think the intern who took the ITK hand is going to meet an unfortunate end from Colin Hanks. The hand will show up later this season and Deb will learn he was Dexter's brother.
She already knows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRMgvzNkGfk&list=SL&feature=sh_e_se
Kamandi
11-03-2011, 08:03 AM
Ah. Forgot that. Nevermind.
I still think the chick with the hand will be important later.
Ash Housewares
11-03-2011, 09:01 AM
I'm hoping there will more to it than that. Every single person who I speak to who watches it all agree thats whats going to happen. If thats the case then this will go down as being a pretty ____ty season because it means there's no originality. How many times has this been done in films recently?
Blood Electricity
11-03-2011, 09:27 AM
I don't think he doesn't exist anymore... It's totally cheesy if that's the case. It's been done 6 million times on film...I actually researched it.
And if it does, I'm sure they will have other things going on to make it interesting. Like he died or vanished somehow and the new woman is actually the one carrying out the murders or coaching hanks and he has no idea or something. Like that movie with robert deniro and dakota fanning. Quinn could end up being kidnapped as part of the thing, a sort of homage to deb and the ice truck killer. or maybe it will turn out that dexter has been dead the whole season...he didn't fake being stabbed for those paramedics...he just straight up is a ghost now. whatatwist
I'm liking how I have no idea what is going to happen though.
I hope dexter not killing hanks isn't one of the 'shoulda killed him when I had the chance things.' I wonder if hanks will think it's like some sort of messenger from god. Like dexter is an angel or a demon or something of the sort. I also wonder if dexter will begin buying into that sort of thing.
Also, I really like brother sam...it's the most natural feeling 'friend' dexter has had so far. more so than rita, miguel, lila, or anyone else. I liked lumen as his sort of killing partner. But I feel like dexter hasn't really felt a connection since he killed rudy.
I'm really liking Lt. deb so far. The new guy is kinda awesome too.
Ash Housewares
11-03-2011, 09:45 AM
Yea i'm pretty sure Dexter has conversed with everyone so he definitely isn't a ghost. This isn't that kind of show. Pretty awesome theory though.......
ArmoredFoe
11-03-2011, 11:31 AM
These are some great theories, but I think you guys are looking to much into it. I have a feelign its exactly what we see and nothing more. As for the religious aspects of it, i think Dex is just trying to figure out how and why people put so much into religion and faith, but I dont see him ever going that route. His type of personality is more of a realist and even with his job, its all based on evidence...hes not going to go the religious route because theres nothing to prove it in Dex's mind.
316what
11-03-2011, 12:32 PM
I still think the chick with the hand will be important later.
If so, it better be soon. She's only in the next 2 episodes and then done...one way or another.:monkey1
Morbach
11-05-2011, 07:46 AM
I'm just glad this show is still going strong. This season is very, very promising.
Ash Housewares
11-06-2011, 05:28 PM
I know for a fact that in tonight episode
Brian is Dexters dark passenger and will be the opposite to Harry
Hmmm
SwedishHeat
11-06-2011, 06:11 PM
I didn't read that spoiler, but tonight is the night that has that 'shocking' return that will fundamentally change the show.
I'm shaking in my little booties over here with anticipation.
Dark Passenger
11-06-2011, 06:57 PM
I know for a fact that in tonight episode
Brian is Dexters dark passenger and will be the opposite to Harry
Hmmm
Hot the F did you know that!!?!?!? That is awesome!
Mr. EcKo
11-06-2011, 07:00 PM
Holy sheeeeeeet Biney is baaaaaaack!!!!!! I freaking love the ITK.
JONAH is the new Trinity killer??? Holy crap this episode has most certainly changed the course for the rest of the season.
Dark Passenger
11-06-2011, 07:03 PM
Holy sheeeeeeet Biney is baaaaaaack!!!!!! I freaking love the ITK.
JONAH is the new Trinity killer??? Holy crap this episode has most certainly changed the course for the rest of the season.
I love Biney! So happy to see him back, Christian Comargo is an awesome actor too.
Jonah being back is looking to be amazing too but he has to die too I would think. What a great season so far!
preeny101
11-06-2011, 07:36 PM
Wow. Can't believe where this is going with Jonah and Biney. Next Sunday needs to hurry and get here already!
SwedishHeat
11-06-2011, 10:09 PM
It's kinda odd that they just kinda hit the brakes on the whole Doomsday Killer thing and it turns into a 'Trinity is back' story. To be honest though, I wasn't quite into the Doomsday Killer anyways.
vareika
11-06-2011, 10:13 PM
can someone please tell me who jonah is referring to? Did I miss something?
Ok i did a search, Jonah' is Trinity's son? When did he show up in this latest episodie, why is there even mention of Trinity again...I'm missing something.
SwedishHeat
11-06-2011, 10:26 PM
can someone please tell me who jonah is referring to? Did I miss something?
Ok i did a search, Jonah' is Trinity's son? When did he show up in this latest episodie, why is there even mention of Trinity again...I'm missing something.
In the preview for next week. You can watch it at the Dexter web site (http://www.sho.com/site/dexter/home.sho#fbid=9NTvbCsm8WW)
Also, I was just reading up on the news. . . and we haven't had any updates since the beginning of October, but MCH and Showtime haven't agreed on a new contract yet, and they mentioned the show was wrapping production at that time, so obviously, by now they've finished filming, sooooooo I would expect that the finale this year would wrap up everything and be able to act as a series finale. I expect by the end of this year, Dex finally gets rid of his Dark Passenger, now that Brian has come back to personify his Dark Passenger, and the showrunner has stated that Brian made a dynamic entrance and will make an equally dynamic exit. . . it certainly sounds like they're planning to wrap this whole thing up.
vareika
11-06-2011, 10:33 PM
Ooohh I didn't see the preview
vareika
11-06-2011, 10:46 PM
In the preview for next week. You can watch it at the Dexter web site (http://www.sho.com/site/dexter/home.sho#fbid=9NTvbCsm8WW)
Also, I was just reading up on the news. . . and we haven't had any updates since the beginning of October, but MCH and Showtime haven't agreed on a new contract yet, and they mentioned the show was wrapping production at that time, so obviously, by now they've finished filming, sooooooo I would expect that the finale this year would wrap up everything and be able to act as a series finale. I expect by the end of this year, Dex finally gets rid of his Dark Passenger, now that Brian has come back to personify his Dark Passenger, and the showrunner has stated that Brian made a dynamic entrance and will make an equally dynamic exit. . . it certainly sounds like they're planning to wrap this whole thing up.
Sad that this may likely be the last season
Blood Electricity
11-06-2011, 11:41 PM
Whoa...this is certainly out of left field. Looks like it could be awesome!
Dark Passenger
11-07-2011, 02:10 AM
I remember reading Scott Buck say that they will not focus entirely on one "Big Bad" this season. The formula does get a little old after a while so it's nice to see the main plot derailed a bit.
DinoLast
11-07-2011, 02:18 AM
Wow just when you think this season is going to be predictable, they suddenly pull the rug from under your feet. Next weeks show looks amazing.
"Hello Dexter Morgan"
:blissysmi:cut:stake
:yess:
Kamandi
11-07-2011, 08:42 AM
Doomsday is all theater, but at the end of the day he's no match for Dex. They've already demonstrated this. The Brian/Trinity stuff looks much more fun. It looks like they stuffed the season's original storyline to play hardball with Showtime.
Perhaps Colin Hanks will be Batista and Quinn's collar.
BTW - Batista has been a much better character this season now that we're following him in the field more. Sticking him behind a desk would have been a terrible decision. Quinn benefits from this too. Lovesick Quinn sucks. Quinn the buddy cop is kinda cool.
If this season winds up the series I hope they go out big and fearless.
Blood Electricity
11-07-2011, 09:17 AM
Here's some of my thoughts.
So Dexter seems to have had one last conversation with Harry right before Brother Sam died, and Harry was like..."I wish I could have seen the light inside of you also, things might have been different." So I'm thinking could this be the last of Harry as Dexter sort of mentor. He, and the code, have been shrinking in importance as the show has gone on. It's almost as if Dexter is finally making decisions for himself...and collecting the important things and lessons from people he interacts with. Maybe that explains the lack of glow surrounding the Harry/Dexter scenes this season...it is just fading away.
So when he tries to listen to brother sam and he drowns that guy in cold blood its almost as if that part of him dies. He understands that he has no light inside of him. That's when he immediately starts to relate to his late brother. So now he's got a darker mentor sort of character in his head.
I'm thinking that if the Professor is a figment of Colin Hank's imagination that he will actually be able to overcome it and shed himself of his darkness. That story line will be important as a contrast to dexter and rudy. I also think that the new cop and Deb will probably win this one on their own. It was cool to see them take out the suspected killer of Sam before Dexter had a chance. Laguerta was awful at her job and it let Dexter get ahead of them constantly.
So then Jonah is obviously what harrison could become. That could make Dexter pump the breaks on going over bored with his dark passenger. Then again, if Dexter has learned anything..he's not like the trinity killer, who was a religious man himself, and wouldn't do the same things to his family.
Calcifer
11-07-2011, 09:26 AM
I wouldn't read to deep into why the harry glow disappeared, I bet it was to do with Gellar, as without the glow your not 100% if he is imaginary or not.
cokebabies
11-07-2011, 02:21 PM
And in fairness to Dexter, he was going to abide by Brother Sam's wish for forgiveness. But that guy was a ____ head.
Ash Housewares
11-07-2011, 03:10 PM
So I think it's pretty clear that between the time dexter was at the thanksgiving dinner at the Mitchells and when Arthur was offed, Arthur told Jonah and thus trained him to carry on. Either that or he just flipped after finding out his dad was a serial killer. I think it's fair to say that Jonah killed Rita then. Messed up. Also I guess this storyline was being saved for series 7 but as there might not be another they just wanted squeeze it in before the show ends for good. It comes across as a bit jarring IMO but excited to see how it all pans out.
Ash Housewares
11-07-2011, 03:12 PM
Double post. Sorry
Mr. EcKo
11-07-2011, 03:13 PM
New Teasers !!!!!!!!! SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!
Brother BINEY!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keIvRfIiKsc&feature=feedu
Road Trip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib5VaQCYd9I&feature=feedu
LOL Brian as Dexters smart *** conscious is freaking awesome
Dark Passenger
11-07-2011, 04:10 PM
Man I really hope they keep Brian around for the rest of the season. I don't want this to be a one episode thing and then Dexter is back to helping old ladies across the street and saving stray dogs.
Blood Electricity
11-07-2011, 04:23 PM
I feel like it seems a little overwhelming right now. Considering how much they are seemingly trying to tie together. But if it works..it could be really epic.
I would be bummed out if this is it for dex though.
Dark Passenger
11-07-2011, 04:25 PM
I just don't want his Darkness to be a one episode thing and he sees the light again after not killing Jonah. This Brian Dark Passenger can really get very interesting.
Calcifer
11-07-2011, 04:32 PM
So I think it's pretty clear that between the time dexter was at the thanksgiving dinner at the Mitchells and when Arthur was offed, Arthur told Jonah and thus trained him to carry on. Either that or he just flipped after finding out his dad was a serial killer. I think it's fair to say that Jonah killed Rita then. Messed up. Also I guess this storyline was being saved for series 7 but as there might not be another they just wanted squeeze it in before the show ends for good. It comes across as a bit jarring IMO but excited to see how it all pans out.
Interesting...but hard to believe he would (A) Listen to his father,they weren't exactly on good terms and (B) kill the wife of the guy who was trying to help him out at the time.
Dark Passenger
11-07-2011, 04:35 PM
Interesting...but hard to believe he would (A) Listen to his father,they weren't exactly on good terms and (B) kill the wife of the guy who was trying to help him out at the time.
There is no way Jonah killed Rita. Let's be serious here, this is a serious thread. :lol
Ash Housewares
11-07-2011, 04:51 PM
He could quite easily be the killer of Rita. Why not? Arthur could have easily instructed him to kill her. He had a massive hold over everyone in the family, maybe even after the table incident. I don't think it's far fetched, especially with the number or twists so far.
Dark Passenger
11-07-2011, 04:52 PM
Have you seen Jonah's relationship with his father in season 4?!? If that happens, the writers have really dropped it.
Calcifer
11-07-2011, 05:36 PM
He could quite easily be the killer of Rita. Why not? Arthur could have easily instructed him to kill her. He had a massive hold over everyone in the family, maybe even after the table incident. I don't think it's far fetched, especially with the number or twists so far.
Sorry I don't agree, that sounds more like the relationship between Gellar and Travis.
Have you seen Jonah's relationship with his father in season 4?!? If that happens, the writers have really dropped it.
:exactly: Jonah was the only person in that family with the ***** to stand up to Arther, I would find it incredibly far fetched if he got him to commit murder on his behalf.
Blood Electricity
11-07-2011, 11:22 PM
I think it's an interesting theory. There could be some level of secrecy with Jonah in season 4. He always seemed like on the verge of telling Dexter that his father was a serial killer. Like he was holding something that could be useful. I assume he knows Dexter killed his father, I can't remember. He could even be emulating Dexter's actions. Trying to take out people he thinks are a destructive force in his life. So could his father have trained or forced him to kill Rita...the same way he controlled his wife and daughter? Could be. I think that if Jonah was a sprouting killer that he wouldn't really have an allegiance to anyone. Especially growing up in a family chock full of emotional problems. He could resent his father for trying to control him. Maybe his father was trying to guide him in some sort of path similar to Harry...like a way to blend in to society while having darkness within(which arthur totally did from an outside perspective). Jonah could be just lashing out like a teenager and hating his father for trying to control what he is.
Probably reading into it way too much. We'll know by next sunday that this probably isn't the case. But it's fun to discuss!
I just love Dexter shooting that gun and headbanging with Brian in the teaser. You don't know how happy that makes me.
Ash Housewares
11-08-2011, 01:24 AM
He said at the dinner table ' Youre a killer, sucking this family dry' or soemthing similar, can't remember. But he knew about his dad. I'm sure of it. Just because he had a bad relationship and Arthur was a nasty to him doesnt mean he wasn't his mentor.
Dark Passenger
11-08-2011, 02:14 AM
He said at the dinner table ' Youre a killer, sucking this family dry' or soemthing similar, can't remember. But he knew about his dad. I'm sure of it. Just because he had a bad relationship and Arthur was a nasty to him doesnt mean he wasn't his mentor.
Jonah had no idea what his dad was up too. He even asked Kyle/Dexter, what is it you think my dad did, when Dexter was trying to find the missing boy Scott.
I just think Jonah went off the deep end and killed his family.
Ash Housewares
11-08-2011, 02:38 AM
Maybe he wanted to see how Much Dexter really knew about his father. We'll see next week.
DinoLast
11-08-2011, 11:14 AM
Michael C Hall owes this guy an apology and so do the audience for laughing at this mastermind. I wonder if they were thinking to themselves ____ this guy must have insider information :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5MLEisTqM4&feature=related
Ash Housewares
11-08-2011, 11:43 AM
Lol. Technically he's not back. I wonder if Lithgow will have a cameo in a flash back scene. That would be Awes.
Calcifer
11-08-2011, 12:07 PM
I posted about that idiot in this thread before! :lol (Lets be honest he meant Arthur himself) .. I do however love that girl asking if they were afraid the show might be a" how to kill people" guide!
DinoLast
11-08-2011, 02:43 PM
Lol. Technically he's not back. I wonder if Lithgow will have a cameo in a flash back scene. That would be Awes.
LOL I know he meant John Lithgow, but he could comeback as an imaginary ghost that his son can see. Then we could see a big fight involving all the imaginary characters from this season. :wink1:
It should be noted that what I just typed is nonsense, and would actually make Dexter jump the shark
Droog Alex
11-09-2011, 05:28 PM
Thanks for video dino.
Morbach
11-10-2011, 12:48 PM
This season is seriously getting better every damn episode.
Droog Alex
11-12-2011, 04:48 PM
24 hours away...
:hi5:
Morbach
11-13-2011, 07:48 AM
First thing I said this morning was "oh ____! Dexter tonight!" :lol
Dark Passenger
11-13-2011, 08:40 AM
Judging by the previews this one should be a doozy. Looking forward to my 2 favorite serial killers having a good time.
Droog Alex
11-13-2011, 08:58 AM
Most anticipated episode of Dexter...since?
DarthMagnus
11-13-2011, 09:01 AM
Judging by the previews this one should be a doozy. Looking forward to my 2 favorite serial killers having a good time.
Well said my brother! Love me some Biney! Hope he's around to stay!
Dark Passenger
11-13-2011, 09:09 AM
Most anticipated episode of Dexter...since?
I'd say since Season 4 Episode 12?
Well said my brother! Love me some Biney! Hope he's around to stay!
I hope this isn't a throwaway thing with Biney and he is gone after today's episode. That would upset me deeply.
Droog Alex
11-13-2011, 09:24 AM
I agree, the final two episodes of Season-four, how the next-to-last episode ended..."Hello, Dexter Morgan," in setting up the crazy finale...
Nothing in season-five had me in anticipation from week-to-week, and not till the last episode last week had me feenin'...
I just hope, like the member above posted, that his 'dark passenger,' Brian, remains and haunts him, almost like a 'good and evil' battle on each shoulder, Dexter trying to balance Harry's code and his words of wisdom, against Biney's vastly different approach.
With the religious themes this season, sets up nicely without it being so overbearing, repetitive and redundant.
Droog Alex
11-13-2011, 09:28 AM
To me, also...the season is setting up for:
Deb finally knowing her brother's darkest secrets. She's in a position of power and the dichotomy and dilemma she could face would make for a breath taking finale... Deb knows his secrets in the 1st book, the only book of reference the writers of the show have used. And they have stated strongly they'll never use any of the books, but that plot line is still out there and one from the first that has not been touched.
Dark Passenger
11-13-2011, 09:35 AM
I think Deb and Mike Anderson doing such a good job also led Dexter to being one step behind killing Leo. Under Laguerta Dexter would have gotten Leo before the cops were even onto him. Even Dex was surprised to see the cops show up to take him in.
I'm hoping this season ends with Deb finding out. I don't want a cliffhanger though, I can't take it! Especially since MCH hasn't reached an agreement with Showtime for another season yet. (Though I'm sure they will).
Droog Alex
11-13-2011, 09:46 AM
I think Deb and Mike Anderson doing such a good job also led Dexter to being one step behind killing Leo. Under Laguerta Dexter would have gotten Leo before the cops were even onto him. Even Dex was surprised to see the cops show up to take him in.
I'm hoping this season ends with Deb finding out. I don't want a cliffhanger though, I can't take it! Especially since MCH hasn't reached an agreement with Showtime for another season yet. (Though I'm sure they will).
Here's the problem with leaving that a cliffhanger, how can they manage a WHOLE another 12 episodes with Deb knowing? Unless, they set it up where Deb knows, but Dexter doesnt know, she knows.
dino76m
11-13-2011, 10:32 AM
dexter getting caught, now that would be a great ending .:P
Mr. EcKo
11-13-2011, 10:33 AM
Tonights The Night.....
And its gunna happen over and over again every Sunday at 9:00
Dark Passenger
11-13-2011, 10:47 AM
Here's the problem with leaving that a cliffhanger, how can they manage a WHOLE another 12 episodes with Deb knowing? Unless, they set it up where Deb knows, but Dexter doesnt know, she knows.
That could be very interesting. I thought all the Ice Truck Killer mentions this season were prepping for Deb to find out what Dex is, not necessarily catching him doing it.
Droog Alex
11-13-2011, 11:09 AM
That could be very interesting. I thought all the Ice Truck Killer mentions this season were prepping for Deb to find out what Dex is, not necessarily catching him doing it.
It will be hard to milk multiple episodes, a whole season after a cliffhanger like that, with both knowing. Without losing the sharpness of the dialogue and keeping some semblance of reality. I know its a show, and we can immerse ourselves in disbelief and even suspend realism for a tad, but eventually, that can't go too far.
Which is why, if they head in that direction, it would be with sis knowing and Dexter still thinking he has not been exposed to anyone. Then, that can loop back to Lumen, who is the only living person that 'knows' and tie many things up together from prior years.
Oh, and Deb knows that he is weird, but based on losing Rita, him prior to that just being a lost soul, the Biney thing et., and without implying it blatantly, the writers have dropped that on us about Deb. It's a matter of when will she start many of the loose ends together and then the eventual...BAM.
Just my two cents...
Dark Passenger
11-13-2011, 11:29 AM
It will be hard to milk multiple episodes, a whole season after a cliffhanger like that, with both knowing. Without losing the sharpness of the dialogue and keeping some semblance of reality. I know its a show, and we can immerse ourselves in disbelief and even suspend realism for a tad, but eventually, that can't go too far.
Which is why, if they head in that direction, it would be with sis knowing and Dexter still thinking he has not been exposed to anyone. Then, that can loop back to Lumen, who is the only living person that 'knows' and tie many things up together from prior years.
Oh, and Deb knows that he is weird, but based on losing Rita, him prior to that just being a lost soul, the Biney thing et., and without implying it blatantly, the writers have dropped that on us about Deb. It's a matter of when will she start many of the loose ends together and then the eventual...BAM.
Just my two cents...
I really hope they never bring Lumen back and I don't think the writers intend to either. Scott Buck said he skipped ahead a year to be done with the whole Lumen and Rita storyline. It's refreshing to not have Astor and Cody to worry about either. I like the new direction of Harrison and Dexter alone-- no kids and no love interest. It works.
Lumen is not the only living person to know, let's not forget about Quinn and Liddy. I have a feeling Quinn will spill the beans about Stan Liddy or what he (Quinn) thinks about Dex killing him. Expect it if they ever show the Liddy death in a Previously On Dexter flashback.
Droog Alex
11-13-2011, 11:41 AM
I really hope they never bring Lumen back and I don't think the writers intend to either. Scott Buck said he skipped ahead a year to be done with the whole Lumen and Rita storyline. It's refreshing to not have Astor and Cody to worry about either. I like the new direction of Harrison and Dexter alone-- no kids and no love interest. It works.
Lumen is not the only living person to know, let's not forget about Quinn and Liddy. I have a feeling Quinn will spill the beans about Stan Liddy or what he (Quinn) thinks about Dex killing him. Expect it if they ever show the Liddy death in a Previously On Dexter flashback.
Hoping Lumen not to be back is one thing based on your personal interest, finding ways to keep things fresh, realistic as well, and looping things together is another.
Quinn spilling the beans may be a direction that this series can go to, realistically. But all that will mean is finality with Quinn, like Doakes, like Lila and so forth.
Liddy is dead, gone...poof. Quinn could've been implicated and yes, I can see how Dexter's blind eye, deaf ear could come back to haunt him, but that also is not a season long extending theme, which we were talking about.
As for Astor and Cody, again...typical series castoffs. Why children don't work in series when the time frame is important and continuity can be killed after breaks from shooting. They grow up too fast, and them being phased out is common practice and the only times those names will be mentioned, will be just to set a mood, imply they are part of his past w/ Rita and characters that mean a lot to him, and that they have feelings for him, but not as seen actors.
Dark Passenger
11-13-2011, 12:06 PM
Hoping Lumen not to be back is one thing based on your personal interest, finding ways to keep things fresh, realistic as well, and looping things together is another.
Quinn spilling the beans may be a direction that this series can go to, realistically. But all that will mean is finality with Quinn, like Doakes, like Lila and so forth.
Liddy is dead, gone...poof. Quinn could've been implicated and yes, I can see how Dexter's blind eye, deaf ear could come back to haunt him, but that also is not a season long extending theme, which we were talking about.
As for Astor and Cody, again...typical series castoffs. Why children don't work in series when the time frame is important and continuity can be killed after breaks from shooting. They grow up too fast, and them being phased out is common practice and the only times those names will be mentioned, will be just to set a mood, imply they are part of his past w/ Rita and characters that mean a lot to him, and that they have feelings for him, but not as seen actors.
If they can do it right, by all means bring her back. I just don't see what it can add to the show without becoming an Are you kidding?! moment. Bringing Jonah back this week is actually adding something interesting IMO. (Jonah re-enacting his father's kills). What can Lumen add? I still can't believe Deb didn't put the Lumen/Dex thing together.
I personally like Quinn better in previous seasons. He is becoming an annoyance this year. I enjoyed his personality in season 5, but the drunk heartbroken cop isn't doing it for me.
I can see Quinn saying to Deb something along the lines of, "Why don't you ask your brother who Stan Liddy was looking into?". The way they are going with Quinn's character this season, it seems to be going somewhere like this. They've turned him into a real A-hole.
MrRabba
11-13-2011, 12:35 PM
Just about to start season 5... really don't know how they can top S4, John Lithgow was unreal.
ShadowX81
11-13-2011, 12:50 PM
What was the point of getting rid of that middle aged Irish babysitter without any explanation just to replace her with Angel's sister?
And why did they spend a considerable amount of time last season having Angel and Laguerta work on thier marriage and get it back on track just to have them divorce off screen between seasons?
Droog Alex
11-13-2011, 05:29 PM
If they can do it right, by all means bring her back. I just don't see what it can add to the show without becoming an Are you kidding?! moment. Bringing Jonah back this week is actually adding something interesting IMO. (Jonah re-enacting his father's kills). What can Lumen add? I still can't believe Deb didn't put the Lumen/Dex thing together.
I personally like Quinn better in previous seasons. He is becoming an annoyance this year. I enjoyed his personality in season 5, but the drunk heartbroken cop isn't doing it for me.
I can see Quinn saying to Deb something along the lines of, "Why don't you ask your brother who Stan Liddy was looking into?". The way they are going with Quinn's character this season, it seems to be going somewhere like this. They've turned him into a real A-hole.
That would be so corny if they did that, Deb taking a suggestion of Quinn's like that... for what? The Liddy thing is dead, unless it implies Dexter, his secrets and how he has tainted evidence. Which again, goes back to the whole Deb finding out angle, and that would be the only way it would work, as she untangles a lot MORE things.
I agree completely, Quinn is a douche, has turned into a guy who really is just annoying based on what the writers have done. Deb's not going to continue the romance with a schmuck like that now, with her position, so severe the ties of that 'been there, done that," relationship. Heck, while they're at it, bring back Anton if you are going into a lovey dovey thing and her being in a position of power. Sheeeshh...:rotfl
Lumen can add a lot if done right because she HAS SEEN Dexter kill, she has participated in that, other than Rita and that British nut, she's been the only one to get intimate w/ Dexter, and moreover, not just intimate, but she's understood the 'dark passenger' and explored in his world.
I'm not saying bring her back, or that I would like her back, but to totally dismiss it and say she won't add anything is ridiculous. And this coming from a person who ranks season-5 as my least liked.
And "are you kidding me...," moment to a certain extent is bringin' Jonah back. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE it and we all are biased about that because most of us love Trinity, loved what happen that season and so forth...
But c'mon, this was the same kid that was haunted by Trinity, he feared and hated his daddy and now, all of the sudden he's mimicking daddy dearest? They better have a helluva story-line to tie that up, or that would be the ultimate, "are you kidding me," scenario.
Plus, will they now fudge with the time-line? is Jonah going to confess to him being the guy who killed Rita? Is the Kyle Butler thing going to come back? Oh, that's right... who was following up on Kyle Butler? Quinn, didnt he want to continue that lead, but was shut-down...?
That sounds more realistic to me than Jonah becoming Trinity v.2.0. :rotfl:lol
Either way, can't wait till tonight...all enjoy and lets hope for some Biney fun and a big bang the rest of the way. We're practically half way through.... I hate this! I love it. But, dayumn, I hate the way it blows by.
Dark Passenger
11-13-2011, 06:58 PM
Well holy hell that was seriously my favorite single episode of Dexter ever I think. Brian was awesome as Dexter's Dark Passenger and the way they handled Jonah was friggin awesome. I think it was a little off to have Sally head over heels about Arthur though. I like how Jonah explained the family agreeing on the Kyle Butler thing and it was a nice loose end to tie up.
I am disappointed Brian couldn't stick around for a few more episodes. He was awesome. When Dexter picked Harry up at the end I started booing. I really wanted the Brian arc to continue a few more episodes.
That Nebraska Hotel pen is going to come back to bite him in the *** too.
@DroogAlex, I'm glad we don't write for the show. They handled it just fine.
Mr. EcKo
11-13-2011, 07:11 PM
100% agree with u Tom.
"Oh no Biney is mad" LOL that was hilarious.
I didn't understand why they just threw that random episode in there.
I loved every minute of it.
I wish Biney was here to stay. I freaking love his character
Morbach
11-13-2011, 07:20 PM
Great episode. Premium ____in tv right there. Biney was awesome. Dexter owns :rock
Blood Electricity
11-13-2011, 08:05 PM
Yeah man. This is one of the top episodes. They cleared up some things really well for me. I'm hoping they can turn up the heat on the DDK thing quick...cause I'm not all that interested so far.
Also, speeding, shooting a gun and listening to the stooges is the coolest thing Dexter has ever done.
Calcifer
11-13-2011, 09:03 PM
I liked the episode, they really handled the Jonah story well( I was very worried about that) but I think I'm in the minority here and I'm glad Dex rid himself of Brian at the end, he was cool change from harry n'all but not a character I would have liked to stick around for long.
Now the rest of the series can focus on the ddk! :yess:
Also I wonder did Jonah notice dexter talking to himself? :lol
Droog Alex
11-13-2011, 09:09 PM
That would be so corny if they did that, Deb taking a suggestion of Quinn's like that... for what? The Liddy thing is dead, unless it implies Dexter, his secrets and how he has tainted evidence. Which again, goes back to the whole Deb finding out angle, and that would be the only way it would work, as she untangles a lot MORE things.
I agree completely, Quinn is a douche, has turned into a guy who really is just annoying based on what the writers have done. Deb's not going to continue the romance with a schmuck like that now, with her position, so severe the ties of that 'been there, done that," relationship. Heck, while they're at it, bring back Anton if you are going into a lovey dovey thing and her being in a position of power. Sheeeshh...:rotfl
Lumen can add a lot if done right because she HAS SEEN Dexter kill, she has participated in that, other than Rita and that British nut, she's been the only one to get intimate w/ Dexter, and moreover, not just intimate, but she's understood the 'dark passenger' and explored in his world.
I'm not saying bring her back, or that I would like her back, but to totally dismiss it and say she won't add anything is ridiculous. And this coming from a person who ranks season-5 as my least liked.
And "are you kidding me...," moment to a certain extent is bringin' Jonah back. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE it and we all are biased about that because most of us love Trinity, loved what happen that season and so forth...
But c'mon, this was the same kid that was haunted by Trinity, he feared and hated his daddy and now, all of the sudden he's mimicking daddy dearest? They better have a helluva story-line to tie that up, or that would be the ultimate, "are you kidding me," scenario.
Plus, will they now fudge with the time-line? is Jonah going to confess to him being the guy who killed Rita? Is the Kyle Butler thing going to come back? Oh, that's right... who was following up on Kyle Butler? Quinn, didnt he want to continue that lead, but was shut-down...?
That sounds more realistic to me than Jonah becoming Trinity v.2.0. :rotfl:lol
Either way, can't wait till tonight...all enjoy and lets hope for some Biney fun and a big bang the rest of the way. We're practically half way through.... I hate this! I love it. But, dayumn, I hate the way it blows by.
As I said in the above posted, no way Jonah was going to be daddy's disciple. That was weak, and quite frankly, the only thing that made the Jonah angle interesting was the fact that Dexter's dark passenger was his bro. That made the episode fun, but IMO, it was nice to see him gain light as he 'came back' home, figuratively and literally...
The spontaneous kills will haunt Dexter. What ramifications can arise about the dead dude in this episode...we shall see.
@Dark Passenger, yeah, we arent writers, but we sure are fans who enjoy speculating, enjoy the ride and have been thrilled with the direction so far.
Oh, Deb shutting down Quinn... :clap
As I said, "Deb's not going to continue the romance with a schmuck like that now, with her position, so severe the ties of that 'been there, done that," relationship."
Droog Alex
11-13-2011, 09:12 PM
I liked the episode, they really handled the Jonah story well( I was very worried about that) but I think I'm in the minority here and I'm glad Dex rid himself of Brian at the end, he was cool change from harry n'all but not a character I would have liked to stick around for long.
Now the rest of the series can focus on the ddk! :yess:
Also I wonder did Jonah notice dexter talking to himself? :lol
I agree, as much as the first season was awesome, there is no need to continue the Biney passenger story line if you are DEFINING Dexter.
He is what he is. A murderer, but one with a code. He veered off that code two episodes ago avenging Mos, and again this episode...but if they want to keep that appeal, he must "come home" as he did figuratively and literally at the end of the episode. For Dexter's sake, what happens in Nebraska, stays in Nebraska.
Calcifer
11-13-2011, 09:16 PM
That Nebraska Hotel pen is going to come back to bite him in the *** too.
Great observation!! :clap:clap:clap
I bet your onto something there, maybe someone(Quinn possibly or Angels sis if it's at home) finds the pen on dexters desk after hearing about the killing.
Batty
11-13-2011, 09:24 PM
Fantastic episode!
The the car ride with Dex firing the gun was right out of Natural Born Killers. And I loved the American Gothic moment with Dex holding the pitchfork while standing in front of the farmhouse poster. Brilliant!
Leave it to the writers of his show to throw a curveball in the middle of the season.
Kamandi
11-13-2011, 09:41 PM
Too much emphasis on the pen. Yup. We'll see it again.
cokebabies
11-13-2011, 10:44 PM
Between the nachos and Brian telling Dexter to talk to the girl, that scene reminded me of Beavis and Butthead in the Maxi Mart. :lol (Except, you know, for Dexter actually getting to have sex.)
cokebabies
11-13-2011, 11:26 PM
I liked the episode, they really handled the Jonah story well( I was very worried about that) but I think I'm in the minority here and I'm glad Dex rid himself of Brian at the end, he was cool change from harry n'all but not a character I would have liked to stick around for long.
I definitely agree. I love Brian the character, and thought him as the passenger was a great change of pace. But I just don't think it could have kept up. Especially since Brian interrupted so often; not like Harry doing an occasional word of advice type of thing. And Dexter ridding himself of Brian only served to further his development as a person.
Also I wonder did Jonah notice dexter talking to himself? :lol
I assumed that even though we see Dexter talking to Brian, these are merely just things being played out in his head. Obviously, Brian wasn't holding the pitchfork, so things change from how they are on screen to what actually happened.
Kamandi
11-13-2011, 11:34 PM
I assumed that even though we see Dexter talking to Brian, these are merely just things being played out in his head. Obviously, Brian wasn't holding the pitchfork, so things change from how they are on screen to what actually happened.
:lecture Exactly. Dexter Isn't speaking out loud to Brian any more than Brian is actually throwing body parts off the side of the boat. When Brian says he's hungry it's because Dex is hungry. Brian is a personification of Dex's psychological id.
Dark Passenger
11-14-2011, 02:10 AM
:lecture Exactly. Dexter Isn't speaking out loud to Brian any more than Brian is actually throwing body parts off the side of the boat. When Brian says he's hungry it's because Dex is hungry. Brian is a personification of Dex's psychological id.
:lecture Yes. Just like Harry.
DarthMagnus
11-14-2011, 05:48 AM
Great episode but Brian could have stuck around a few more episodes. Dex's transition back to the light should have took more than 1 episode to remedy. I feel kinda empty now cause I'm not into the DDK storyline too much. This season was kinda losing me before last weeks and last nights eps. I feel so let down. Here's hoping for the best.
Best line of the episode!
Biney to Dex.....
YOU'VE BEEN DOMESTICATED!!!! :rock
Droog Alex
11-14-2011, 06:24 AM
Great episode but Brian could have stuck around a few more episodes. Dex's transition back to the light should have took more than 1 episode to remedy. I feel kinda empty now cause I'm not into the DDK storyline too much. This season was kinda losing me before last weeks and last nights eps. I feel so let down. Here's hoping for the best.
Best line of the episode!
Biney to Dex.....
YOU'VE BEEN DOMESTICATED!!!! :rock
It may or may have not been a good angle for the next few weeks...
Reason I think it wouldn't is based on the DDK and how eventually, that's his foe this season. For one episode, with Jonah being the schmuck that he is, and how they set that up, it was perfect.
How would you justify and write it based on DDK. Dexter wants him regardless, so his light and the themes they went with are fighting against those evils and that darkness.
Biney, being the devil on his shoulder, as oppose to Harry and the angel on the other shoulder would have been interesting. But that then changes EVERYTHING we love about Dexter, especially if ideologically speaking, he starts killin' based on Biney's morals, or should I say, non-morals and just for pure satisfaction - without a code.
Alters dramatically what Dexter is all about and why he is so beloved.
It may go fine for a sector of people, but by in large, not the majority which effects the outlook completely.
I really liked this episode, I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see Brian return at least for one more scene this season. It'd be cool to see Dex conflicted over killing somebody and have Brian and Harry fighting each other for control.
Droog Alex
11-14-2011, 08:48 AM
I really liked this episode, I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see Brian return at least for one more scene this season. It'd be cool to see Dex conflicted over killing somebody and have Brian and Harry fighting each other for control.
I like that...
HA. Harry had no love for that other disgusting boy covered in blood...HAHAHAHAHA. Biney is butt hurt.:lol
SwedishHeat
11-14-2011, 09:36 AM
The thing that bugs me is that Scott Buck, the showrunner this year was talking about how Brian makes a 'dynamic' exit and Harry makes an equally 'dynamic' re-emergence, or something like that. So, I was all psyched up for some big battle in Dexter's psyche or something, not just Dex picking up Harry on the side of the road. . . how it that 'dynamic'??
freestylex06x
11-14-2011, 09:44 AM
wow i can't stand debra as a character and the actress who plays her. debra is such an incompetent and nagging character while the actress can't seem to show more than two portrayals. one as a crybaby and the other as a tough girl wannabe.
316what
11-14-2011, 10:30 AM
I think it was a little off to have Sally head over heels about Arthur though.
It wasn't off at all. It was classic battered-wife syndrome.
Calcifer
11-14-2011, 11:39 AM
It wasn't off at all. It was classic battered-wife syndrome.
:exactly: And it's not like they just made her instantly that way for this episode, she was like that in season 4.
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Dark Passenger
11-14-2011, 01:10 PM
It wasn't off at all. It was classic battered-wife syndrome.
After finding out your husband is a serial killer for 30 years?! There's a huge difference there.
Calcifer
11-14-2011, 01:17 PM
After finding out your husband is a serial killer for 30 years?! There's a huge difference there.
She seemed fairly :cuckoo: from the getgo, possibly one of the reasons Arther married her in the first place.
The thing that bugs me is that Scott Buck, the showrunner this year was talking about how Brian makes a 'dynamic' exit and Harry makes an equally 'dynamic' re-emergence, or something like that. So, I was all psyched up for some big battle in Dexter's psyche or something, not just Dex picking up Harry on the side of the road. . . how it that 'dynamic'??
It was clever considering the whole "passenger" idea, having Harry being the light, a hitchhiker that becomes Dexters Passenger - kinda like Brian representing the dark getting ran over by the car.
Droog Alex
11-14-2011, 01:44 PM
It was clever considering the whole "passenger" idea, having Harry being the light, a hitchhiker that becomes Dexters Passenger - kinda like Brian representing the dark getting ran over by the car.
Exactly... and he was going back 'home.' die, :hi5:
Morbach
11-14-2011, 02:38 PM
I loved Harry hitchiking at the end.
preeny101
11-14-2011, 03:12 PM
It wasn't off at all. It was classic battered-wife syndrome.
MMMMMMMM...battered wife.
Ash Housewares
11-14-2011, 03:31 PM
That episode was crap. Brian was lame and the whole Jonah Mitchell thing was an anti climax. Think I'm losing interest in this series.
Dark Passenger
11-14-2011, 04:00 PM
That episode was crap. Brian was lame and the whole Jonah Mitchell thing was an anti climax. Think I'm losing interest in this series.
Good riddance. :wave
Kamandi
11-14-2011, 04:04 PM
Decent finale would be if Jonah decided to payback Dex for killing his father by killing Deb.
Kamandi
11-14-2011, 04:16 PM
You're the one with an opinion Ash.
Dark Passenger said "Good riddance". Nothing more. You trolled this thread first.
Ash Housewares
11-14-2011, 04:22 PM
I trolled this thread? By saying an episode sucked. Since when was that trolling? I've watched this show religiously since 2006 and this episode IMO was the worst in it's 5 year run. How is pointing that out trolling?
Kamandi
11-14-2011, 04:36 PM
No, you trolled when you said :
Wtf. Sorry for offending you and your wanking material ____ head. It's a discussion board and this episode sucked. Deal with it. Fanboy.
Did you not think someone would react when you called the episode crap and say "I'm quitting?"
He said "Good riddance". He didn't insult you personally. It's like if someone says "don't let the door hit you in the @ss". He didn't attack you. He made a smart *** remark. There is a difference. You took it to a whole different level.
edit: And that's all I have to say about it.
Ash Housewares
11-14-2011, 04:39 PM
Good, stay out of it then.
Batty
11-14-2011, 04:47 PM
What the hell... :lol
Dark Passenger
11-14-2011, 04:53 PM
Wtf. Sorry for offending you and your wanking material ____ head. It's a discussion board and this episode sucked. Deal with it. Fanboy.
Bottom line is I won't argue a no point. You made no point. Just stuck your meaningless post in the thread without any explanation. What kind of response were you hoping for? If you're unhappy with the show, fine. Bye. Move on. Good riddance.
Quit the keyboard toughness too son. Name calling means nothing on forums. Your keyboard going to beat my keyboard up? Go to your room boy.
Ash Housewares
11-14-2011, 04:57 PM
Ha ha. You're funny. Dad!
Dark Passenger
11-14-2011, 05:01 PM
Ha ha. You're funny. Dad!
Go to your room son. Past your bed time.
Calcifer
11-14-2011, 05:13 PM
Decent finale would be if Jonah decided to payback Dex for killing his father by killing Deb.
Yeaa ..but Jonah hated his father!:cuckoo: :lol
Dark Passenger
11-14-2011, 05:21 PM
Yeaa ..but Jonah hated his father!:cuckoo: :lol
He sure did hate him. I think this is the last we'll see of Jonah. It was a nice tie up to the loose end of Kyle Butler. It was interesting to know how Dexter got away with the Kyle Butler persona.
Calcifer
11-14-2011, 05:29 PM
He sure did hate him. I think this is the last we'll see of Jonah. It was a nice tie up to the loose end of Kyle Butler. It was interesting to know how Dexter got away with the Kyle Butler persona.
Actually I should have said Jonah is not grateful for his father ;)
Ya that storyline is done for sure, now I hope they focus on the ddk, like others I'm not really that interested in the story so far so I really hope they step it up a gear and make me interested.
Dark Passenger
11-14-2011, 05:34 PM
Actually I should have said Jonah is not grateful for his father ;)
Ya that storyline is done for sure, now I hope they focus on the ddk, like others I'm not really that interested in the story so far so I really hope they step it up a gear and make me interested.
I have to agree here. I don't see how they will hold our interest by just focusing on the DDK for the next 5 episodes. I remember seeing Scott Buck say there will be many plots this season. I just really wished Brian was around for the next 1 or 2.
Calcifer
11-14-2011, 05:43 PM
I have to agree here. I don't see how they will hold our interest by just focusing on the DDK for the next 5 episodes. I remember seeing Scott Buck say there will be many plots this season. I just really wished Brian was around for the next 1 or 2.
I actually really support that idea you had about the pen, thats definitely going to cause a problem for Dexter and maybe spark life back into the Quinn/Liddy storyline.
DinoLast
11-14-2011, 05:44 PM
Talking of DDK, I am not sure that the Professor is imaginary any more.
Calcifer
11-14-2011, 05:46 PM
Talking of DDK, I am not sure that the Professor is imaginary any more.
Ya, there is too much now to suggest he is in fact real, what the hell are they up to?:dunno
Dark Passenger
11-14-2011, 05:48 PM
I actually really support that idea you had about the pen, thats definitely going to cause a problem for Dexter and maybe spark life back into the Quinn/Liddy storyline.
YES! I think Deb (or Jamie will find it and mention it to Deb) and will put the Nebraska trip together. Although she may just think Dexter was looking for Trinity. She has no idea Jonah knows Dexter or Dex's true intentions on the trip.
Would be funny if Dex knocks up the Nebraska Store Hottie. :lol
Talking of DDK, I am not sure that the Professor is imaginary any more.
I am up in the air. He still hasn't interacted with anyone other then Travis. Even the whore (whatever her name was) didn't really mention his voice. She said she thought it was the professor with his knee in her neck. I don't know. Can go either way for me.
Buttmunch
11-14-2011, 06:24 PM
I think the Trinity story line is far from over. Kyle knows Dexter killed Trinity and as long as he is alive, he can be a threat to Dexter. Plus after this episode, how to we really know Trinity killed Rita and not Kyle? The SDCC panel really didn't seem willing to answer the question if Trinity really killed her or not. They said they thought it was obvious, but I felt like they were trying to avoid answering it as much as possible BECAUSE Trinity wasn't the real killer. I just felt like Trinity would have mentioned SOMETHING to Dexter about Rita if he had really killed her. :dunno
Darth Caedus
11-14-2011, 06:31 PM
I am up in the air. He still hasn't interacted with anyone other then Travis. Even the whore (whatever her name was) didn't really mention his voice. She said she thought it was the professor with his knee in her neck. I don't know. Can go either way for me.
I haven't decided if I think Gellar is imaginary or not. It would be REALLY hard for someone to put a knee in the back of someone's neck AND make them drink something at the same time...doesn't really make much sense for one person to do that.
Droog Alex
11-14-2011, 06:49 PM
I trolled this thread? By saying an episode sucked. Since when was that trolling? I've watched this show religiously since 2006 and this episode IMO was the worst in it's 5 year run. How is pointing that out trolling?
So, you didnt like it... give an insightful post with concise thoughts on why. We all have opinions here and more than literate and articulate get opinions across.
Onward to bigger and better things...
Yeah, I can see how this whole 'Trinity' thing is not over.
But in a different sense. Jonah obviously knows that monster is some sort of wack job too... and he knows the whole Kyle Butler sham. Quinn was looking into the Kyle Butler lead before he got shut-down.
So, when Deb was furious that Dexter was gone, after telling him where those murders take place, eventually they can tie some of these things together...
Quinn talks to Jonah, now Quinn has his suspicions, they find the body in the silo [or some hick from that god forsaken town], when that idiot who rented Dexter a room took the car to get fixed, who knows what happened, Dexter used his C.Card to get the rental, his whereabouts arent known, yet theres a body found, a pen that Dexter took from Mayberry, or whatever that hell hole was, with the dead body's prints, Dexter's as well...
BOOM, BAMM.. Deb gets involved, Quinn and Jonah are in the mix...POW.
Now, I'm not saying for this season, because I have a feeling its going to be heavy DDK the rest of the way, but something to think about.
:monkey1
Or not...
:cuckoo:
Mr. EcKo
11-14-2011, 06:57 PM
I think the Trinity story line is far from over. Kyle knows Dexter killed Trinity and as long as he is alive, he can be a threat to Dexter. Plus after this episode, how to we really know Trinity killed Rita and not Kyle? The SDCC panel really didn't seem willing to answer the question if Trinity really killed her or not. They said they thought it was obvious, but I felt like they were trying to avoid answering it as much as possible BECAUSE Trinity wasn't the real killer. I just felt like Trinity would have mentioned SOMETHING to Dexter about Rita if he had really killed her. :dunno
He did mention it . Sorta ... "It's Already Over" That was Arthurs line he said whe he kills a woman in the bathtub
Calcifer
11-14-2011, 07:01 PM
I think the Trinity story line is far from over. Kyle knows Dexter killed Trinity and as long as he is alive, he can be a threat to Dexter. Plus after this episode, how to we really know Trinity killed Rita and not Kyle? The SDCC panel really didn't seem willing to answer the question if Trinity really killed her or not. They said they thought it was obvious, but I felt like they were trying to avoid answering it as much as possible BECAUSE Trinity wasn't the real killer. I just felt like Trinity would have mentioned SOMETHING to Dexter about Rita if he had really killed her. :dunno
Kyle?:dunno ..you mean Jonah right? :lol
Morbach
11-14-2011, 08:01 PM
Tbh you guys up here put it in my head that the professor was imaginary and now I'm debating if he is or not :lol
Kamandi
11-14-2011, 08:07 PM
Wild *** guessing follows:
I think DDK has multiple personality disorder. One of his personalities is his victim, Professor Adama. I don't think Colin Hanks is aware of some of his activities when he becomes the professor. So he may think he is not assisting the Professor, in fact he is still doing the tasks Olmos is depicted performing.
Buttmunch
11-14-2011, 08:14 PM
Kyle?:dunno ..you mean Jonah right? :lol
Yeah :slap
SwedishHeat
11-14-2011, 09:10 PM
Wild *** guessing follows:
I think DDK has multiple personality disorder. One of his personalities is his victim, Professor Adama. I don't think Colin Hanks is aware of some of his activities when he becomes the professor. So he may think he is not assisting the Professor, in fact he is still doing the tasks Olmos is depicted performing.
I'd rather see that, than having Gellar be imaginary like Harry.
darthviper107
11-15-2011, 12:07 AM
I think it was pretty obvious now he's imaginary. Since the only survivor was unable to see them or even give a good indication that they were different people, him showing up at the house, then the picture showing up again. Also the remark where he was like "What, are you going to kill me?" in that he already has killed him.
Dark Passenger
11-15-2011, 02:10 AM
I think the Trinity story line is far from over. Kyle knows Dexter killed Trinity and as long as he is alive, he can be a threat to Dexter. Plus after this episode, how to we really know Trinity killed Rita and not Kyle? The SDCC panel really didn't seem willing to answer the question if Trinity really killed her or not. They said they thought it was obvious, but I felt like they were trying to avoid answering it as much as possible BECAUSE Trinity wasn't the real killer. I just felt like Trinity would have mentioned SOMETHING to Dexter about Rita if he had really killed her. :dunno
I totally think Trinity killed Rita. It was pretty obvious in Trinity's reaction to "I have my family" in season 4 episode 12. If they ever even try to pull a switcheroo with Jonah doing it, I will lose a lot of my respect for the show. Trinity killing Rita is a win.
Wild *** guessing follows:
I think DDK has multiple personality disorder. One of his personalities is his victim, Professor Adama. I don't think Colin Hanks is aware of some of his activities when he becomes the professor. So he may think he is not assisting the Professor, in fact he is still doing the tasks Olmos is depicted performing.
I think it could be something along these lines also. The paintings could be being done by Travis also. He does do art restoration at a museum or wherever he works.
It was past my bed time grandpa you're right. 1:00 AM is pretty late to be keyboard fighting with a douchebag.
It's too late and you're doing it anyway? Go to sleep. You have school tomorrow young buck. Is your homework done?
Morbach
11-15-2011, 07:53 AM
It's called a job. Once you graduate high school you should look for one.
:lol :lol
Anyway how many more seasons do you think Dexter will go on? I hope we get alteast 1 more. It's been my favorite show since I saw it. I just tend to stay away from spoilers in here but I decided to join the discussion with yall.:hi5:
I think this season has it's fair share of "epic moments' but so far it hasn't really delivered anything solid for me on the storyline. I'm enjoying it as it preys upon my nostaligia for the show but have to point out that it's taking a long time to really get the ball rolling forward storyline wise.
There just haven't been those tense moments that Dexter is known for, where he's about to get caught or about to be killed or revealed or something. The tension just isn't there for me. I guess I'm just hoping that DDK doesn't end up as a quick fix afterthought kinda deal like The Skinner was in Season 3.
so, while I am enjoying it for what it is, I am bracing myself for the potential letdown at Season's end -but however, I do remain optimistic that they can turn it all around and provide something unexpectedly shocking at the end like seasons 2 and 4 were able to do.
Morbach
11-15-2011, 08:23 AM
Well we have 5 eps left so I think the ____ is going to hit the fan
Ash Housewares
11-15-2011, 09:27 AM
Anyway this episode sucked because it was thrown into the middle of a season and it didn't belong. If it was in series 5 it might have worked as Trinity was still quite fresh in our minds. Dexter firing a gun while driving, shagging a random cashier and stealing a gun where there is probably a CCTV camera, carrying that dead motel guy to the top of the crop thing on his own to dump the body. Yeah right. It was all total BS and the Jonah story line was such an anticlimax. The writing in this episode was terrible and they used Brian as his dark passenger just as an excuse so he could do these ridiculously out of character things. I didn't buy it. But hooray for you if you enjoyed it.
Anyway this episode sucked because it was thrown into the middle of a season and it didn't belong. If it was in series 5 it might have worked as Trinity was still quite fresh in our minds. Dexter firing a gun while driving, shagging a random cashier and stealing a gun where there is probably a CCTV camera, carrying that dead motel guy to the top of the crop thing on his own to dump the body. Yeah right. It was all total BS and the Jonah story line was such an anticlimax. The writing in this episode was terrible and they used Brian as his dark passenger just as an excuse so he could do these ridiculously out of character things. I didn't buy it. But hooray for you if you enjoyed it.
I think you make some valid points in here to be honest. I think it was a fanboy guilty pleasure episode.
Lejuan
11-15-2011, 12:54 PM
Anyway this episode sucked because it was thrown into the middle of a season and it didn't belong. If it was in series 5 it might have worked as Trinity was still quite fresh in our minds. Dexter firing a gun while driving, shagging a random cashier and stealing a gun where there is probably a CCTV camera, carrying that dead motel guy to the top of the crop thing on his own to dump the body. Yeah right. It was all total BS and the Jonah story line was such an anticlimax. The writing in this episode was terrible and they used Brian as his dark passenger just as an excuse so he could do these ridiculously out of character things. I didn't buy it. But hooray for you if you enjoyed it.
Yep. Felt like a 'filler' episode so they could let the DDK case play out some conflict without Dexter on the case whilst having Dexter play out a bit of his own conflict that kinda wasn't there to begin with. Whatever, it was sloppy.
pixletwin
11-15-2011, 12:56 PM
Yep. Felt like a 'filler' episode so they could let the DDK case play out some conflict without Dexter on the case whilst having Dexter play out a bit of his own conflict that kinda wasn't there to begin with. Whatever, it was sloppy.
On the whole I agree. But even the worst Dexter is still good tv.
YoNoSe
11-15-2011, 01:09 PM
I thought it was a very appropriate episode since Dexter seems to be really re-evaluating himself and his life, and especially because he is doing so for his own reasons - not for Rita, Deb, Lumen, etc. It's just him and Harrison now and he has the freedom to do what he wants.
He's starting to really care about people and value his role as a father, perhaps more than his needs as a killer. He knows he has decisions to make and it makes sense that he would be tempted to simply run away from that. Leaving Brian and picking up Harry could be very significant to the rest of the series.
Of course, it only matters if he actually does change. That's an area I've felt the series has played Charlie Brown Football with too often. It always seems that Dex is on the cusp of change but in reality he's been doing the same ____ the entire time.
cokebabies
11-15-2011, 02:48 PM
I totally think Trinity killed Rita. It was pretty obvious in Trinity's reaction to "I have my family" in season 4 episode 12. If they ever even try to pull a switcheroo with Jonah doing it, I will lose a lot of my respect for the show. Trinity killing Rita is a win.
Yeah, I don't mind them re-looking at the Trinity story, even if it is a rather obvious "Trinity was awesome - let's do more of that!" like last episode.
But if they make changes to some of the key events, like Trinity being the one who killed Rita, that would be unforgivable.
I'm really not worried about that, though.
Dark Passenger
11-15-2011, 03:29 PM
Anyway this episode sucked because it was thrown into the middle of a season and it didn't belong. If it was in series 5 it might have worked as Trinity was still quite fresh in our minds. Dexter firing a gun while driving, shagging a random cashier and stealing a gun where there is probably a CCTV camera, carrying that dead motel guy to the top of the crop thing on his own to dump the body. Yeah right. It was all total BS and the Jonah story line was such an anticlimax. The writing in this episode was terrible and they used Brian as his dark passenger just as an excuse so he could do these ridiculously out of character things. I didn't buy it. But hooray for you if you enjoyed it.
I'm kind of sick of the same formula though so I found the episode refreshing. This whole season hasn't really been a focus on one Big Bad. They had the Brother Sam & The Tooth Fairy arcs to fill the gaps between DDK murders.
I am tired of the Harry voice and it was an interesting turn (in my opinion) to see Brian be Dexter's Dark Passenger. Christian Comagro's mannerisms and voice was perfect and hilarious at times to me.
I thought Jonah turning into Trinity and killing his family was very out of character, Glad they didn't go that route. I could see him beating his mom in a rage though. I liked the episode a lot, my favorite one in forever. But to each his own.
Dark Passenger
11-15-2011, 03:30 PM
Yeah, I don't mind them re-looking at the Trinity story, even if it is a rather obvious "Trinity was awesome - let's do more of that!" like last episode.
But if they make changes to some of the key events, like Trinity being the one who killed Rita, that would be unforgivable.
I'm really not worried about that, though.
I'm not worried about it either. That is a silly thing for them to do and I think the Showrunners are smarter then that.
Calcifer
11-15-2011, 04:16 PM
I wasn't a huge fan of the episode, but to call it a filler episode is a little silly, It's much more then that, it's the concluding episode to the Brother Sam/light&dark story arc.
Dark Passenger
11-15-2011, 04:58 PM
I wasn't a huge fan of the episode, but to call it a filler episode is a little silly, It's much more then that, it's the concluding episode to the Brother Sam/light&dark story arc.
Agreed. Filler is a little mean spirited. (I kid, I kid).
Droog Alex
11-15-2011, 07:08 PM
I liked the episode a lot, my favorite one in forever. But to each his own.I liked it, but again, based on the previews, it was under-whelming for me. Seriously, I may stop watching previews to the next show. I think they show too much, gets you hyped...
After seeing Biney at the end of the ep. 2weeks ago, the anticipation did not match the actual viewing. Anti-climactic...
I enjoyed last episode, but no where is it better than these for me:
Season 1, episode 1 - the first one for obvious reasons.
Season 1 - Born Free
Season 2 finale -- Lila Doakes et.
Season 3 - "Go Your Own Way"
Season 3 - "Do You Take Dexter Morgan?"
Season 4 - "Living the Dream"
Season 4 - "Hello, Dexter Morgan"
Season 5 - "The Getaway"
Season 5 - "Hop a Freighter"
Just off the top of my head are ones that I enjoyed more than last episode...
I wasn't a huge fan of the episode, but to call it a filler episode is a little silly, It's much more then that, it's the concluding episode to the Brother Sam/light&dark story arc.
It wasnt filler, but it was just as you said, it re-emphasizes what Sam said to Dexter, that every man has light in 'em, and Dexter is realizing that and to further make that stand out, they used Biney's aura/presence/dark passenger existence to really stick it to the audience that Dexter has a code, and that with hsi darkness, there is a light in him which endears him to the audience.
Moreover, it goes along with the overall theme of the season, faith, and everything that ties with that... and the irony that these religious freaks are doing horrible things, reading the bible and coming up with these wacked out interpretations...yet from the outside, could just be perceived as bible thumpers. Yet Dexter, not a religious man et., but likeable on the outside, has the killing streak about him that if not corralled, would have landed him in jail many many years ago.
Morbach
11-15-2011, 08:43 PM
Dexters worst ep beats other shows' best ep.
Ash Housewares
11-15-2011, 11:49 PM
Dexters worst ep beats other shows' best ep.
Except Breaking Bad.
Calcifer
11-16-2011, 05:46 AM
Dexters worst ep beats other shows' best ep.
I love Dexter but thats a silly statement.
Except Breaking Bad.
:exactly: another example would be The Sopranos.
Blood Electricity
11-16-2011, 08:08 AM
I think boardwalk empire would be another one.
That show is a masterpiece IMO.
But I love dex.
Calcifer
11-16-2011, 08:40 AM
I think boardwalk empire would be another one.
That show is a masterpiece IMO.
But I love dex.
Haven't seen that one yet, must check it out. Also must mention Band of brothers and The pacific.
Dark Passenger
11-16-2011, 09:00 AM
:exactly: another example would be The Sopranos.
The Sopranos got a little ridiculous in later seasons. Great show though.
Droog Alex
11-16-2011, 09:12 AM
The Sopranos got a little ridiculous in later seasons. Great show though.
LOL -- And Dexter is not? :rotfl
I love Dexter, amazing show and a all-time great for me, but sometimes you have to suspend realism when watching. Geez, just based on the totality of the show: Ice Truck Killer, them finding all the bodies in the harbor and labeling it the Bay Harbor Butcher case, Trinity, Jordan Chase's sh!+s and giggles clan, Miguel Prado and his dealings... how many murderers and serial killers just relocate to Miami? What's going on with the rest of the country? Who the hell really wants to live there?:rotfl
Add to that the comical police department; yeah, how a garbage truck just 'may' have messed up the cooling system in the storage room for the butcher's bodies, how Doakes was a member of that department, and from a media perspective et., he's the one at fault, yet he had issues with Dexter, and Dexter also involved in Trinity murders (his wife, made the papers), and he's a star analyst at the busiest Police department in America...you would think Dex is a celebrity and known across the country...
But, yeah...I can see how Sopranos got ridiculous, too. :hi5:
Dark Passenger
11-16-2011, 10:59 AM
LOL -- And Dexter is not? :rotfl
I love Dexter, amazing show and a all-time great for me, but sometimes you have to suspend realism when watching. Geez, just based on the totality of the show: Ice Truck Killer, them finding all the bodies in the harbor and labeling it the Bay Harbor Butcher case, Trinity, Jordan Chase's sh!+s and giggles clan, Miguel Prado and his dealings... how many murderers and serial killers just relocate to Miami? What's going on with the rest of the country? Who the hell really wants to live there?:rotfl
Add to that the comical police department; yeah, how a garbage truck just 'may' have messed up the cooling system in the storage room for the butcher's bodies, how Doakes was a member of that department, and from a media perspective et., he's the one at fault, yet he had issues with Dexter, and Dexter also involved in Trinity murders (his wife, made the papers), and he's a star analyst at the busiest Police department in America...you would think Dex is a celebrity and known across the country...
But, yeah...I can see how Sopranos got ridiculous, too. :hi5:
Of course Dexter did and still is ridiculous at times. Season 5 for one has so many plot holes in it it's absurd. I'm not too blind a fanboy to realize it is a silly show at times.
- Bathroom kill in episode 1.
- Dexter staying in the room next to Cole Harmon. Cole disappearing and no one connects the dots?
- Dexter and Boyd Fowler being in the hospital together. The medics didn't check their IDs and check them into the hospital? There's no record?
- Jordan Chase's cell records would show an incoming call from Dexter moments before he disappeared (when Chase was Killed).
- Quinn. He knows Dexter killed Liddy. He has to or he is one big dummy.
- Emily Birch's crime scene. Dexter was walking and flopping around the whole scene. Phone records between Lumen and Emily, and Lumen and Dexter.
- The red car that Dexter crashes at Camp Jordan. He stole it from the lot by Liddy's crime scene and smashed it at Camp Jordan, which would be crawling with cops in an hour (according to Deb). There's no link to Liddy's crime scene, Camp Jordan, and the car?
- Using his real name to call county records and look up Eugene Greer property holdings to find Camp Jordan.
-Lumen. I can't believe Deb didn't figure out she was #13 and Dexter was helping her. She was staring it right in the face. Dexter did say his sister has a blind spot when it comes to him, but for real?
That is all ridiculousness.
Ash Housewares
11-16-2011, 11:16 AM
Of course Dexter did and still is ridiculous at times. Season 5 for one has so many plot holes in it it's absurd. I'm not too blind a fanboy to realize it is a silly show at times.
- Bathroom kill in episode 1.
- Dexter staying in the room next to Cole Harmon. Cole disappearing and no one connects the dots?
- Dexter and Boyd Fowler being in the hospital together. The medics didn't check their IDs and check them into the hospital? There's no record?
- Jordan Chase's cell records would show an incoming call from Dexter moments before he disappeared (when Chase was Killed).
- Quinn. He knows Dexter killed Liddy. He has to or he is one big dummy.
- Emily Birch's crime scene. Dexter was walking and flopping around the whole scene. Phone records between Lumen and Emily, and Lumen and Dexter.
- The red car that Dexter crashes at Camp Jordan. He stole it from the lot by Liddy's crime scene and smashed it at Camp Jordan, which would be crawling with cops in an hour (according to Deb). There's no link to Liddy's crime scene, Camp Jordan, and the car?
- Using his real name to call county records and look up Eugene Greer property holdings to find Camp Jordan.
-Lumen. I can't believe Deb didn't figure out she was #13 and Dexter was helping her. She was staring it right in the face. Dexter did say his sister has a blind spot when it comes to him, but for real?
That is all ridiculousness.
And this was when the writers got lazy or just really stupid. I really didn't like series 5 for these reasons and I thought series 6 was an improvement up until episode 7. The show has new writers now I believe. Hall has said he won't do another unless he gets paid more, I reckon he just thinks the writing sucks.
Dark Passenger
11-16-2011, 11:59 AM
And this was when the writers got lazy or just really stupid. I really didn't like series 5 for these reasons and I thought series 6 was an improvement up until episode 7. The show has new writers now I believe. Hall has said he won't do another unless he gets paid more, I reckon he just thinks the writing sucks.
I agree. Season 5 is the worst writing in all the series IMO.Clyde Philips left the show after season 4, and it has fallen a bit since. Scott Buck is heading Season 6 and is doing a good job IMO. I am enjoying Season 6 way more then Season 5.
If they're paying him millions of dollars per season, do you think he gives a ____ if the writing sucks?
Ash Housewares
11-16-2011, 12:24 PM
I agree. Season 5 is the worst writing in all the series IMO.Clyde Philips left the show after season 4, and it has fallen a bit since. Scott Buck is heading Season 6 and is doing a good job IMO. I am enjoying Season 6 way more then Season 5.
If they're paying him millions of dollars per season, do you think he gives a ____ if the writing sucks?
Depends what his mentality is like. Some actors take great pride in their roles. How many times do you hear an actor say ' if the script is good then I'll be back or I'll play the part' but I guess script could be code word for money.
Dark Passenger
11-16-2011, 12:43 PM
Depends what his mentality is like. Some actors take great pride in their roles. How many times do you hear an actor say ' if the script is good then I'll be back or I'll play the part' but I guess script could be code word for money.
It's going to be hard for him to have a career after Dexter I think. He will always be typecast as Dexter, just like the cast of Seinfeld and their curse. If I were him, I'd take the money and run.
great1
11-16-2011, 06:09 PM
It's going to be hard for him to have a career after Dexter I think. He will always be typecast as Dexter, just like the cast of Seinfeld and their curse. If I were him, I'd take the money and run.
Bryan Cranston could have very easily been typecast as the silly dad after Malcolm in the Middle but he was very careful with the roles he selected and was cast as Walter White in Breaking Bad, winning 3 Emmy awards in a row.
Michael C. Hall comes off as being very intelligent in interviews and has done some theatre acting, I have a good feeling he will do alright after Dexter. He could probably do some Broadway until he finds another good role. Although with that being said I do want Dexter to keep going.
Kamandi
11-16-2011, 10:41 PM
Season 5 was a big mess but I liked Lumen as a character. The Tony Robbins wannabe was a stupid heavy. Deb letting her unseen perp (dex) go was also a big "no f-cking way" moment.
I also wasn't a fan of season 3. I didn't buy into the idea of Dex trusting Jimmy Smits on that level.
Morbach
11-16-2011, 11:18 PM
I love Dexter but thats a silly statement.
:exactly: another example would be The Sopranos.
Just personal opinion. Id rather watch dexter than any other show.
After seeing Biney at the end of the ep. 2weeks ago, the anticipation did not match the actual viewing. Anti-climactic...
Exactly. They left the last episode off with a fanboy drool inducing cliffhanger and then didn't really deliver considering it was all wrapped-up in one episode.
I've been a huge fan of Dexter since season 1. Seasons 1, 2 and 4 are EPIC in my opinion. I really don't expect those seasons to be topped, but I still do enjoy the show very much and watch it every week without fail. But, I do have to admit that this seaon of The Walking Dead blows this season of Dexter away - I've been more impressed with that show each week watching it after Dexter. Those are the only 2 shows I really watch and I gotta give the edge to Walking Dead this season.
SwedishHeat
11-17-2011, 07:38 AM
I'm not going to compare the quality of the seasons, I mean, they were all made by different teams. It seems like this new guy is making a show with a sitcom kinda feel.
I've found that the show kinda wanders around for the first few episodes but starts to get really tense towards the end, so right now I'm just kinda waiting for it to get good. :/
Even with the Trinity storyline, we just followed him for 5 or 6 eps, and then once the storyline pointed towards Dex offing him, that's all I wanted to see and had to wait for 3 or 4 eps for the payoff. This show has kinda become like House in the sense that you know what's going to happen EVERY time, you know House is going to make the wrong diagnosis for 30 minutes then when there's 5 minutes left in the show, he'll have an epiphany and BOOM, they solve the case and save a life. In Dexter, he's gonna follow the killer around for 8 episodes, track him down, assume a fake ID to get all friendly with the killer and then take him to the kill room. In that sense the show has become predictable. At this point, it's pretty much a given that Dex will track down Travis and say "Hey, I need you to restore this ancient manuscript in this shady old house I live in, can you come over late at night and help me with it??". . . STAB!!!
Mr. EcKo
11-18-2011, 12:20 AM
Hey Freaks - I just made Dexter on Saints Row The Third on PS3 - Check it out - after tweaking it for about 2 days , i think i nailed it close enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzPMXkXpGSw
Calcifer
11-18-2011, 07:16 AM
Great job Mike, it actually looks really like him, just get rid of that tattoo.:)
Game any good?
Droog Alex
11-18-2011, 08:56 AM
Hey Freaks - I just made Dexter on Saints Row The Third on PS3 - Check it out - after tweaking it for about 2 days , i think i nailed it close enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzPMXkXpGSw
Hey mothafawk...
That looks dope. :hi5:
Dark Passenger
11-18-2011, 09:19 AM
Looks great Mike. Now make Biney!
ChaserFan
11-18-2011, 10:07 AM
Dexter just got renewed for another two seasons :rock:rock
SwedishHeat
11-18-2011, 10:07 AM
Well, good news I guess, http://showtimeallaccess.tumblr.com/tagged/dexter
two more seasons
Calcifer
11-18-2011, 10:16 AM
Great news, on another note, is that a pic of dex from a past episode?..because that looks like the doomsday killer church.
Dark Passenger
11-18-2011, 01:44 PM
I think that pic was is from a future episode. Looks like it's from the previews to this Sundays.
Morbach
11-18-2011, 02:12 PM
2 more seasons :yess:
Mr. EcKo
11-18-2011, 05:22 PM
Great job Mike, it actually looks really like him, just get rid of that tattoo.:)
Game any good?
Yeah the game if fun to play . Thanks buddy . i still think i need to tweak a few things on him
Hey mothafawk...
That looks dope. :hi5:
Thanks Muda Fack!!!
Looks great Mike. Now make Biney!
I know huh . Maybe i will :panic: Thanks Dexter uhhh i mean Tom :wave
Droog Alex
11-18-2011, 05:27 PM
Yeah the game if fun to play . Thanks buddy . i still think i need to tweak a few things on him
Thanks Muda Fack!!!
I know huh . Maybe i will :panic: Thanks Dexter uhhh i mean Tom :wave
Awesome -- love your vids. :clap
noisetrigger
11-18-2011, 06:41 PM
I have mixed feelings about the season renewal. I mean I love Dexter but there has to be conclusion to the series. I can understand one final season for the build up but two seasons? That just goes to show that they will milk Dexter to the max and it will very likely end disappointingly, like most shows that has gone on too long.
Dark Passenger
11-18-2011, 08:11 PM
I have mixed feelings about the season renewal. I mean I love Dexter but there has to be conclusion to the series. I can understand one final season for the build up but two seasons? That just goes to show that they will milk Dexter to the max and it will very likely end disappointingly, like most shows that has gone on too long.
I agree. I feel like one more season would be plenty to end it all on a high note. What can they possibly do for 24 more 1 hour episodes? They've tackled all major themes, and it'll be hard to pull off another great serial killer since the Ice Truck & Trinity Killer (especially the depth of Trinity's character).
I don't want to see this series go out with a putter. If Debra doesn't find out what Dexter really is, she will next year-- and then what? What Big Bad? What story? What arc?
As excited as I am to see Dexter on screen for 2 more seasons, I think I am more worried the show will be past its prime by then. :monkey2
Droog Alex
11-18-2011, 10:27 PM
I don't want to see this series go out with a putter. If Debra doesn't find out what Dexter really is, she will next year-- and then what? What Big Bad? What story? What arc?
Just read what I said in prior posts about this...
Deb needs to find out who he is. Especially with the position she's in. And then, when that happens...they cant milk any further, because then it will be a just another hack show on a cable network that had a great past.
Which is why, I can see them bringing back Lumen, and doing other things, whether you like it or not, just to get us to watch every week, regardless of quality. Now, that does not mean that they cant get creative and explore other avenues that we have not thought about or can even conceive to conjure up, which can blow our minds. It can happen...
But that is not the norm on TV. We shall hope for the best.
Buttmunch
11-18-2011, 10:53 PM
Its a shame the producers are snobby about the books. Deb found out about Dexter's Dark Passenger at the end of the first book (aka Season 1). So her knowing about Dexter has played alot differently there than in the books. Its also too bad they kept Laguerta and killed Biney as it was the other way around in the books and instead of having DP Biney pop up, the real piney pops up.
Morbach
11-19-2011, 08:03 AM
2 more seasons is kind of alot but I feel they know what they're doing and I'm going to ride it out.
Blood Electricity
11-19-2011, 02:30 PM
I think this could be awesome. I think they should just shake things up. We've had 6 seasons of getting to know all these characters. Let's see things change and get intense. One thing they are good at is making a suspenseful show. I'd like to see some serious sticky situations.
Buttmunch
11-19-2011, 02:50 PM
I almost feel they did Season 2 too soon. Season 7 should have been Season 2's plot. Especially with Dexter getting really sloppy lately. Its almost like he's asking to get caught. In the first few seasons he was so cautious and now he doesn't even wear gloves or wipe off finger prints after he stabs a guy with a pitchfork :dunno
Darklord Dave
11-19-2011, 03:34 PM
Its a shame the producers are snobby about the books. Deb found out about Dexter's Dark Passenger at the end of the first book (aka Season 1). So her knowing about Dexter has played alot differently there than in the books. Its also too bad they kept Laguerta and killed Biney as it was the other way around in the books and instead of having DP Biney pop up, the real piney pops up.
I'd have to disagree. I read the next 2 books and I feel they're far inferior to the TV show. The first book included.
pixletwin
11-19-2011, 03:42 PM
I'd have to disagree. I read the next 2 books and I feel they're far inferior to the TV show. The first book included.
I agree. The books are on par with a soap opera-type writing.
Morbach
11-19-2011, 03:43 PM
I'd have to disagree. I read the next 2 books and I feel they're far inferior to the TV show. The first book included.
hell yeah, the books are terrible. I gave up after the 3rd one. The show ran off in a way different and BETTER direction. Thank God they didn't follow the books.
Calcifer
11-19-2011, 07:35 PM
In the first few seasons he was so cautious and now he doesn't even wear gloves or wipe off finger prints after he stabs a guy with a pitchfork :dunno
That was not a planned kill, he seems as focused as ever other then that one kill.
Droog Alex
11-19-2011, 07:49 PM
That was not a planned kill, he seems as focused as ever other then that one kill.
Which could come back to haunt him...
Deb told him about Trinity being back and in what town...
He left town, she doesn't know where...
But he rented a car, someone he eventually worked on it...
That unplanned kill, him taking that pen, the dumping of the body in that town...
What you mentioned...
Among other things from that episode can be linked back to Dexter, as he did not follow the 'code' there, which was meant for what children?
Exactly...
Remember Harry's first rule...Never get caught.
What's his second rule...? Yup, you got it.
GatackFC
11-20-2011, 12:06 AM
Is it just me or did anyone else love the fact that Brian returned as his dark conscience?
Droog Alex
11-20-2011, 04:59 AM
Is it just me or did anyone else love the fact that Brian returned as his dark conscience?
WOW -- when did this happen? :slap
Ash Housewares
11-20-2011, 05:13 AM
How are they going drag this out another 2 seasons? It's feeling very stagnant already. Such a shame this series will probably go out with a whimper.
Morbach
11-20-2011, 07:40 AM
:yess: I'm stoked for tonight
Droog Alex
11-20-2011, 08:10 AM
:yess: I'm stoked for tonight
Me :hi5: you
Mr. EcKo
11-20-2011, 08:26 AM
Tonights The Night.......
Kamandi
11-20-2011, 11:14 AM
I'd like to see a season long manhunt story arc. Dex on the run. They need to do it better than Weed's season on the road. But now they are greenlit through season eight they need to shake it up next year.
Morbach
11-20-2011, 07:26 PM
Great ____in episode! My heart was in my throat at the end when Dexter was looking for Gellar.
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