Dexter Discussion Thread *Spoilers*

[CelticPredator]

Dis meens wharr....

Awwwahh...poore bahbee....YAHHUHHHAHh

[CelticPredator]

Dexter's a good guy. If you disagree, then the show didnt do it's job for you. :D

[cokebabies]

The blood on the shoe is just too obvious. Why would Dexter need to pin it on Quinn if the blood is already on his shoe?

By pinning the murder on Chase, then killing Chase, it's an easily resolved case. Pinning it on Quinn means sending the man his sister loves to prison for the rest of his life. I don't really think Dexter sees Quinn as a big problem anymore, but that may change. I think Dexter will probably pin it on Chase and then the blood on his shoe will come back to bite Quinn.

Or the blood will make it pinned on Quinn initially, and Dexter will try to pin it on Chase.

I honestly don't see Dexter doing anything to screw Quinn, unless ABSOLUTELY necessary for his freedom.

[Seditionary]

No way!

Do we watch the same show??

A HUGE part of the show, in fact the overlying theme of the show, is Dexter's morality. Slowly revealing that Dexter actually cares about people. That he is not the emotionless killer from season 1, with a code that keeps him from killing innocent people just so he won't get caught. Harry made him believe that instead of actually helping him because that was the only way he knew how to raise him. The show is about Dexter's realization, through his bonds with those around him, that he's actually a good person inside, who was messed up by witnessing his mother's death and was further misguided by his foster father.

a agree with this for the most part. I think that another point of the show is to get you to find a serial killer likeable or good even..Fact of the matter is, he kills people. I also wouldn't say that Harry misguided him really...I think that dexter had to evolve from that in order to grow as a person and to stay away from prison and death.

The tv/reality thing is certainly an arguement to be had, but don't forget that dexter is still capable of chopping up bodies and stuffing them into little garbage bags...this is what drove his father to kill himself. Although he is good, he is still detached from us. In comparison to other popular characters, hes more similar to leatherface then he is to the punisher or even the joker.



What I've been thinking is... he is killing "innocent people" more and more and isn't making much of a fuss over it anymore. He's becoming further removed from harrys code just to help Lumen in the "i spit on your grave" plotline. I really like how things evolved with him and Lumen this season...but what happens next if they both get out of this alright and not in jail? Will dexter continue to kill with lumen and submit to harrys code once again? Will the code change from serial murderers to serial rapists also?

And has he been cutting up the bodies with Lumen?? If so...they really do have "serious ____"

[CelticPredator]

We all watch action movies where heroes like Stallone, Arnold, and James Bond kill HUNDREDS of people in a film. What makes them different then Dexter? They do the same thing, kill people without (mostly) regret. All of them are just as evil as the people Dexter kills. Only difference is, Dexter is a bit more messed up in his "rituals", but it's the same thing.

[Devil_666]

We all watch action movies where heroes like Stallone, Arnold, and James Bond kill HUNDREDS of people in a film. What makes them different then Dexter? They do the same thing, kill people without (mostly) regret. All of them are just as evil as the people Dexter kills. Only difference is, Dexter is a bit more messed up in his "rituals", but it's the same thing.

It's not the same thing. It's not even remotely close.

Real Life:

Comparing them is like comparing a military soldier/cop that kills people in the line of duty to a serial killer that kills for their own sick and twisted pleasure i.e. Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, The Hillside Stranglers, etc.

Fantasy/Entertainment:

Every single action movie you can name featuring Arnold, Sly or 007, etc. features a protagonist that's motivated to take down the evil enemy/bad guy.

007 - Spare time he bangs chicks and jet sets. Kills in the line of duty for his country.

Arnie/Sly - Most of their hero characters are usually family men/cops/soldiers that end up killing people because of some specific event that triggers it i.e. trying to take down the movie's villain.

Dexter is completely different. Dexter kills strictly for pleasure. That's his hobby. His entire life revolves around killing people. Every facet of his life is a lie and is only in place to hide the fact that he's a serial killer. He actually goes through withdrawal-like symptoms when he doesn't kill for a long period.

You seriously can't distinguish the two!? :dunno

[DinoLast]

I watched the Preview for the next episode and that is definitely Dexter dropping the knife, but I wonder if Deb is pointing the gun and telling Quinn not to move?

[hairlesswookiee]

No way!

Do we watch the same show??

A HUGE part of the show, in fact the overlying theme of the show, is Dexter's morality. Slowly revealing that Dexter actually cares about people. That he is not the emotionless killer from season 1, with a code that keeps him from killing innocent people just so he won't get caught. Harry made him believe that instead of actually helping him because that was the only way he knew how to raise him. The show is about Dexter's realization, through his bonds with those around him, that he's actually a good person inside, who was messed up by witnessing his mother's death and was further misguided by his foster father.

And I agree with everything you just mentioned. However none of this changes the fact that he's a serial killer. He's just a well liked serial killer.

[die]

I like the idea of Dexter helping Quinn out, maybe altering the blood sample so it doesn't nail Quinn, thus saving both of them. Very interested to see how this plays out.

It's not the same thing. It's not even remotely close.

Real Life:

Comparing them is like comparing a military soldier/cop that kills people in the line of duty to a serial killer that kills for their own sick and twisted pleasure i.e. Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, The Hillside Stranglers, etc.

Fantasy/Entertainment:

Every single action movie you can name featuring Arnold, Sly or 007, etc. features a protagonist that's motivated to take down the evil enemy/bad guy.

007 - Spare time he bangs chicks and jet sets. Kills in the line of duty for his country.

Arnie/Sly - Most of their hero characters are usually family men/cops/soldiers that end up killing people because of some specific event that triggers it i.e. trying to take down the movie's villain.

Dexter is completely different. Dexter kills strictly for pleasure. That's his hobby. His entire life revolves around killing people. Every facet of his life is a lie and is only in place to hide the fact that he's a serial killer. He actually goes through withdrawal-like symptoms when he doesn't kill for a long period.

You seriously can't distinguish the two!? :dunno


So, the "action" stars of those movies aren't similar to Dexter as the "Dark Defender" or the "Bay Harbor Butcher" ?

I mean, they even draw the comparisons within the show.

http://www.tvaholic.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/showtime/Dexter-The-Dark-Defender-Action-Figure.jpg

Dutch wasn't smiling when he stabbed a knife through a guy and said "Stick Around" in Predator?

John McClane seemed to be smiling the whole time he was killing and taunting terrorists, right?...


These action stars enjoy killing with that "job well done" type of satisfaction just as much as Dexter does and his heroic qualities, much like those of action stars, are that he does what he does out of a sense of what is right and values the innocent (as seen for his disgust of people hurting children or women). History has shown us that homicidal tendencies can be channeled...you definitely have to have something inside of you to be able to pull that trigger when you're a cop or a soldier...or to pull that lever or push that button when you're the person responsible for carrying out a death sentence on somebody. That killer instinct, you know...

To me Dexter is a kind of a mix of Dark Knight Detective and Punisher, that's a huge draw for me.

I agree with the people who are talking about how people miss the point on the show, Dexter is definitely human and definitely has emotions. He's definitely got some serious issues, but that trait is also pretty human. Still some people think he really sees Harry and that somebody is going to catch him talking to Harry, even though the show has made it very clear that Harry is just Dexter's conscience.

[Seditionary]

I think everyone has really great points.

I still think that the level of butchering he does to each victim is a point of consideration for whether or not he is like those action stars...Rambo might cut someone in half with a machine gun, but he doesn't spend 3 hours chopping the body into clean sections to stuff in a bag. The point is that now he fits so cleanly into what exactly he is. If dexter was having sex with the dead bodies, then he wouldn't be as likable, but he is still the serial killer type.

I love this show, and I love dexter and I don't feel the least bit bad about that whatsoever.

[DinoLast]

No one is more critical of Dexter's activities than Dexter himself. He refers to himself as a Monster. Throughout the five seasons we have seen other examples of serial killers that show Dexter might not be the monster he thinks he is.

I think Trinity is the most interesting, here was a man Dexter thought he could learn from, a Killer and a Family Man who seems to live both lives perfectly. When Dexter delved deeper he saw that Trinity used family as a facade to deflect suspicion, he really did not care for them at all. Dexter had attempted to do this with Rita, but he became emotional attached to her and her Children. In fact he has always cared about his sister, and now has strong feelings for Lumen and Harrison.

The stuff about action stars enjoying killing is true, but they are normally put in kill or be killed situations. Dexter has been taught to Kill murders so, he does not kill innocent people. I think that Dexter is realising that he no longer needs to fulfill this blood lust to live among other people

[RICEaRONI]

Michael C. Hall was on Jimmy Fallon last night and he said "someone is going to die"

not very specific but I thought it was funny

[Devil_666]

Dutch wasn't smiling when he stabbed a knife through a guy and said "Stick Around" in Predator?

John McClane seemed to be smiling the whole time he was killing and taunting terrorists, right?...

It's irrelevant. The point is, they don't NEED to kill in order to feel complete like a Serial Killer i.e. Dexter.

Dutch wasn't going crazy before his mission in Predator, itching to kill someone. He even clearly says in the movie him and his team don't do that "kind" of work i.e. Merc/Wetwork kill missions.

John McClane wasn't on the plane before heading to his wife's work building itching to start shooting and killing people. And if he would have had it his way, he would have arrested everyone as opposed to killing them.

The only reason Dexter kills criminals is because Harry told him to. The only reason Harry told him to only kill criminals is to avoid police detection. It's not like Dexter decided on his own to only kill criminals. And in certain cases Dexter HAS killed innocent people.. and guess what? He didn't care. Because he's a serial killer.

You seen him all broken up about the innocent, random guy he killed in the gas station bathroom this season? No right? Hasn't even been mentioned because it doesn't matter to Dexter.

[CelticPredator]

Hey, no one said Dexter is perfect. He's not the greatest person...but there are far worse people....and in the show no less.

[Bustajesse]

I am guessing the finale title "The big one" is referring to Harrison's birthday.

[CelticPredator]

Or Bite the "big one". A play on words for sure.

[DinoLast]

It's not like Dexter decided on his own to only kill criminals. And in certain cases Dexter HAS killed innocent people.. and guess what? He didn't care. Because he's a serial killer.

You seen him all broken up about the innocent, random guy he killed in the gas station bathroom this season? No right? Hasn't even been mentioned because it doesn't matter to Dexter.

He did seem disturbed after he found out the photographer was innocent. As for the Gas station guy, he killed him while enraged, something anybody is capable of doing. The difference with Dexter compared to other people is that he is conditioned to deal with the aftermath. I agree with you that Dexter is a Serial Killer that only kills Murderers because Harry taught him the code, but I think Dexter is now becoming more human and less monster by each season. I hope that it all ends well for Dexter and he finally rids himself of his dark passenger.

[die]

I agree about Dexter killing outside of the code, it's probably my only real problem with the show simply because it doesn't fit with what the show has been about all along. Maybe it will be revealed in time, but for me right now it's an issue. Maybe, these are further proof that there has to be casualties of war?

Dexter was desensitized to violence/death at an early age and started killing animals...History of violence type of stuff. This type of thing actually happens alot in real life, we all know it. In early seasons flashbacks, it definitely shows how the code developed with Harry coming home upset that guilty criminals are getting away with murder. This eventually worked itself into Dexter being judge/jury/executioner proving the person is guilty before killing. "Normal" people do similar things daily. The rest of the routine is disposal of the body. Harry helped Dexter develop a conscience and gave him a sense of right and wrong. Dexter does what Harry couldn't do.

Rambo didn't have to shoot a guy with 10,000 rounds at point-blank range and turn him into hamburger meat, but he did.

[barryo]

I hope that it all ends well for Dexter and he finally rids himself of his dark passenger.


i dont think they will wrap up dexter with a happy ending storyline like that.

i believe he will end up dead at the hands of the police (possibly deb)

or

it fades out with his commentary saying something to the effect that as long as there are killers of innocents out there he still has work to do

:dunno

[cokebabies]

it fades out with his commentary saying something to the effect that as long as there are killers of innocents out there he still has work to do

Yeah, I'd actually be a little disappointed if the show, or at least Dexter's persona within the show, didn't end similarly to this.

While I do like his growth as a human, I don't want him to be come too human, or an actual "real boy".

[Devil_666]

Rambo didn't have to shoot a guy with 10,000 rounds at point-blank range and turn him into hamburger meat, but he did.

But like I've been saying, that's irrelevant. In every Rambo movie Sly is hesitant to engage in any violence initially. He just wants to be left alone to do his own thing. That's completely different from Dexter (and ALL serial killers). Dexter hunts for victims. Dexter enjoys killing. Dexter HAS TO kill in order to feel complete.

There's a big difference.

Not sure why people can't see that!?

[RICEaRONI]

But like I've been saying, that's irrelevant. In every Rambo movie Sly is hesitant to engage in any violence initially. He just wants to be left alone to do his own thing. That's completely different from Dexter (and ALL serial killers). Dexter hunts for victims. Dexter enjoys killing. Dexter HAS TO kill in order to feel complete.

There's a big difference.

Not sure why people can't see that!?

:goodpost::goodpost::goodpost:

[Dark Passenger]

I haven't viewed this thread in a while... we are comparing Dexter to Rambo and Arnold? Did I miss something in the season 6 announcement? Do Cody and Astor get kidnapped by terrorist or something?

[Devil_666]

:lol:lol:lol

[CelticPredator]

Well if Dexter aint the hero of this show...who is? Harrison? :lol

[Devil_666]

Dexter is the "hero". That's the funny part. That's how the show is set up. It's a drama but fundamentally it's also a black comedy.
Dexter is a serial killer but he's depicted as a good guy since he usually only kills people who are considered "bad". So even though he's a cold-blooded psychopath the viewers cheer for him since he kills "in a good way".

:lol:lol:lol

Even the recent discussion in here proves that. A lot of people purposely forget/disregard the glaring fact that Dexter is a serial killer. They'd rather view him as a vigilante instead. Only problem is, Dexter doesn't kill "bad people" to make the world safer or to protect the innocent. He kills to satisfy his own sick and twisted desires. It's only because of Harry and the code he instilled in Dexter that his killings aren't seen in the same light as most serial murders.

But thankfully the show also highlights the flaws in that: sometimes Dexter is wrong and his victims are actually innocent. Sometimes Dexter doesn't even follow the code and kills random, innocent people. Dexter is also willing to kill people who might expose him and his secret.

ALL those killings completely contradict the notion of him being a hero or a vigilante.

Yet even with all that.. people will STILL disregard the obvious and continue to label Dexter as a good guy. :lol

[DinoLast]

I think Dexter represents the Dark Side of us all.
I'm sure most of us read or see something on TV about some scumbag who raped or murdered innocents, maybe both, and secretly fantasied about making them suffer in some way, maybe even want to kill them. Most would be incapable of doing this because of the way we are conditioned, so we enjoy watching characters on TV acting out this fantasy for us.

I care for the Dexter character, because he does wish he could be free of his killing addiction. For me that would be the best way to end the show. Dexter actually beats the addiction, the one thing that has controlled his life since he was born in blood

As for Dexter killing "innocent people", lets have a look at them
Prado's Brother, Drug dealer who put Dexter into a Kill or be Killed situation
The Pedo, Good Riddance I say, Dexter killed him because he was a danger to Astor
The Photographer (Probably the only one in the list who I feel sorry for) a nasty piece of work who did not deserve to die, but it was a genuine mistake by Dexter
The Gas Station guy, once again he did not deserve to die, but that guy was so in Dexter's face who knows what he was prepared to do. If you go around acting like that guy did, somebody is sure to at least put you in hospital for a long time.
Liddy/Robocop, Kill or be Killed again in my opinion. Liddy did not care about saving lives by arresting Dexter, he just wanted to get his job back, and he got burned for his selfish act.

So is Dexter a good guy? Not really. He's more what you call an Anti-Hero, because Dexter never asked to be a Serial Killer, that choice was made for him by the men who chainsawed his mother to pieces, and Harry's teachings

[CelticPredator]

Dexter is the "hero". That's the funny part. That's how the show is set up. It's a drama but fundamentally it's also a black comedy.
Dexter is a serial killer but he's depicted as a good guy since he usually only kills people who are considered "bad". So even though he's a cold-blooded psychopath the viewers cheer for him since he kills "in a good way".

:lol:lol:lol

Even the recent discussion in here proves that. A lot of people purposely forget/disregard the glaring fact that Dexter is a serial killer. They'd rather view him as a vigilante instead. Only problem is, Dexter doesn't kill "bad people" to make the world safer or to protect the innocent. He kills to satisfy his own sick and twisted desires. It's only because of Harry and the code he instilled in Dexter that his killings aren't seen in the same light as most serial murders.

But thankfully the show also highlights the flaws in that: sometimes Dexter is wrong and his victims are actually innocent. Sometimes Dexter doesn't even follow the code and kills random, innocent people. Dexter is also willing to kill people who might expose him and his secret.

ALL those killings completely contradict the notion of him being a hero or a vigilante.

Yet even with all that.. people will STILL disregard the obvious and continue to label Dexter as a good guy. :lol

Now I agree with you! :lecture

Except, I still think Dexter is a good man. He does care for his family, he does care for his friends....yes he kills. But that's the point. We're ment to root, and care for this demented serial killer. Because he has a heart. :D

[die]

But like I've been saying, that's irrelevant. In every Rambo movie Sly is hesitant to engage in any violence initially. He just wants to be left alone to do his own thing. That's completely different from Dexter (and ALL serial killers). Dexter hunts for victims. Dexter enjoys killing. Dexter HAS TO kill in order to feel complete.

There's a big difference.

Not sure why people can't see that!?




John J. Rambo: You know what you are... what you're made of. War is in your blood. Don't fight it. You didn't kill for your country. You killed for yourself. God's never gonna make that go away. When you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing.




Yet even with all that.. people will STILL disregard the obvious and continue to label Dexter as a good guy. :lol

As for "disregarding the obvious"…. The interesting part about Dexter is that he doesn't just "kill" and he isn't just a "murderer". We know this because it would've been in his best interest just to go ahead and kill Doakes, but he didn't have it in him, couldn't do it. It’s also clear that he doesn’t kill children and doesn’t like to see them suffer and has a desire to protect the weak. It's clear that he is searching for closure on what happened to him much like The Punisher when his family was murdered. Notice on the show how opinions have changed from him being labeled "butcher" to "avenger" to "vigilante" and even his sister's opinion has changed this season, seeing what he's doing as heroic, even romantic. He does the detective work of Batman and the murdering of the Punisher. How could anybody not see the comparisons being drawn?

He’s not even out to inflict pain or torture as a matter of fact, he administers a quick lethal stab (much like with our own death sentences)
And unlike traditional serial killers, he’s certainly not a menace to society. I mean as long as your not a murderer, you’re quite safe from him much like you’d be with The Punisher.

a vigilante is not black or white but a shade of gray. We see the good and the bad in what they do, yet the good outweighs the bad in our minds. How is this not the perfect description of Dexter?

Still, there are people who just say the show is about a serial killer who fakes all human emotions, never cares for anyone and kills just solely to feed his bloodlust.

[Devil_666]

For me that would be the best way to end the show. Dexter actually beats the addiction, the one thing that has controlled his life since he was born in blood

That would be terrible because it's unrealistic and never happens. Serial Killers don't stop killing unless they die, go to prison for life, go to prison for an unrelated crime (which causes a break in the cycle of killings) or they change their M.O. to avoid detection. They don't just up and stop one day.

Dexter never asked to be a Serial Killer, that choice was made for him by the men who chainsawed his mother to pieces, and Harry's teachings

By that rationale we should feel sorry for ALL serial killers because they never asked to be like that. The truth is, Dexter and ALL serial killers are predisposed to being how they are. It's not caused by a single incident/event. And it's not caused by outside intervention (Dexter's brother didn't have any input from Harry and he STILL became a serial killer). There are people who've gone through horrific stuff that makes Dexter's "event" pale in comparison and guess what, they didn't turn into serial killers. I think this was even discussed on the show by Deb (can't remember!?).

It's clear that he is searching for closure on what happened to him

Then he should've already stopped killing. Because he already found and killed the guy responsible for his mothers death. Again, that event is NOT why Dexter is a serial killer.

He’s not even out to inflict pain or torture as a matter of fact, he administers a quick lethal stab (much like with our own death sentences)

Huh!? No. Slicing the victim's cheek to get a blood sample trophy and stabbing them through the heart = inflicting pain. Getting stabbed in the heart with a big *** knife is NOT painless. And death is NOT instantaneous. :lol

And unlike traditional serial killers, he’s certainly not a menace to society. I mean as long as your not a murderer, you’re quite safe from him much like you’d be with The Punisher.

Unless he screws up and THINKS you're "guilty" when you're really not. Or if you're rude to him in a gas station bathroom. Right?

a vigilante is not black or white but a shade of gray. We see the good and the bad in what they do, yet the good outweighs the bad in our minds. How is this not the perfect description of Dexter?

Because Dexter is not a vigilante. He's a serial killer. :slap

[die]

Here's a question ....

How do we know Dexter was even meant to be a killer?

He had a history of cruelty to animals, I work with adolescents in a treatment facility and deal with that stuff daily, it's more common than anybody would even like to believe. Cruelty to animals is a definite red flag, but not a deciding factor. I've counseled kids on it, some of them spend many years getting help, into their young adulthood, some deal with it at an early age and realize it's motivation is not based on homicidal tendencies. Harry though, just using a cop's instinct, decides that Dexter is destined to be a killer and decides to teach him how to kill in a way he felt could benefit society in a way he wished he could. His first victim was Harry's nurse, who was trying to kill him. Was Dexter protecting the one person who knew his secret or just killing because he wanted to kill?


No blame should be placed on Harry? Has the question even been answered: Did Harry actually turn Dexter into a killer for his own selfish reasons?

Huh!? No. Slicing the victim's cheek to get a blood sample trophy and stabbing them through the heart = inflicting pain. Getting stabbed in the heart with a big *** knife is NOT painless. And death is NOT instantaneous.

The cheek slice is with a thin razor sharp surgical blade...ever cut yourself with an X-acto knife? Pretty much...Same thing, I did it last week, bled like hell, didn't really even feel pain from it.. but I do have a fairly strong feeling that it's nothing like waterboarding or the iron maiden. I mean you ever see one of Dexter's victims after they're cut? AWWWWHHHHH MY FAAAAACCECCCEEEE, NOOOO, JUST DO IT, KILLLL MEEE NOOWWWWW!!!! and then, when he does kill them, it's an immediately fatal stab to the heart as he has explained...again, who was it the posed the question "Are we even all watching the same show?"

Then he should've already stopped killing. Because he already found and killed the guy responsible for his mothers death. Again, that event is NOT why Dexter is a serial killer.

Have you even been watching this season? As he explained to Lumen several times that once you get revenge, you don't become satisfied. Rambo said the same thing, you don't kill for your country, you realize you kill for you. Batman explained to Robin that it he murdered the person responsible for his parents deaths, that it wouldn't be enough once he was on that path. Yoda told Luke the same thing....Did the Punisher (another vigilante) just get revenge on the people responsible for his familys deaths or did he go after all criminals? What about Spider-Man and his Uncle's killer? But yeah, I guess I see your point :rotfl

Unless he screws up and THINKS you're "guilty" when you're really not. Or if you're rude to him in a gas station bathroom. Right?

I made that very point earlier, did you not see it? The funny thing to me about it (and what re-inforces the validity of my question earlier) is why did Harry tell him it's the first "human" thing he's seen him do since Rita's death?

Because Dexter is not a vigilante. He's a serial killer. :slap

Vigilante: a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law are viewed as inadequate); broadly : a self-appointed doer of justice

http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vigilante



Serial Killer: serial killer
n
a person who carries out a series of murders

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/serial+killer


So the difference is that there is "justice" involved, correct? :slap




P.S.- Han shot first.

[Superman]

I think Dexter represents the Dark Side of us all.
I'm sure most of us read or see something on TV about some scumbag who raped or murdered innocents, maybe both, and secretly fantasied about making them suffer in some way, maybe even want to kill them. Most would be incapable of doing this because of the way we are conditioned, so we enjoy watching characters on TV acting out this fantasy for us.

I care for the Dexter character, because he does wish he could be free of his killing addiction. For me that would be the best way to end the show. Dexter actually beats the addiction, the one thing that has controlled his life since he was born in blood

As for Dexter killing "innocent people", lets have a look at them
Prado's Brother, Drug dealer who put Dexter into a Kill or be Killed situation
The Pedo, Good Riddance I say, Dexter killed him because he was a danger to Astor
The Photographer (Probably the only one in the list who I feel sorry for) a nasty piece of work who did not deserve to die, but it was a genuine mistake by Dexter
The Gas Station guy, once again he did not deserve to die, but that guy was so in Dexter's face who knows what he was prepared to do. If you go around acting like that guy did, somebody is sure to at least put you in hospital for a long time.
Liddy/Robocop, Kill or be Killed again in my opinion. Liddy did not care about saving lives by arresting Dexter, he just wanted to get his job back, and he got burned for his selfish act.

So is Dexter a good guy? Not really. He's more what you call an Anti-Hero, because Dexter never asked to be a Serial Killer, that choice was made for him by the men who chainsawed his mother to pieces, and Harry's teachings

Yeah, I felt sorry for Liddy getting killed. He was doing what his job was up until he was terminated. I would have rather seen Dexter though blow off his arms and legs...oh wait a minute.. wrong movie.. lol..

Interesting season..Not as good as the last one, however I like Lumen's character in this one. Apart from the scene where Dexter punches his daughters friends father in super-human fashion, Dexter is more fallable this season after Rita's death and is showing more emotion than ever. The finale will be very interesting to say the least..

[ShadowX81]

That would be terrible because it's unrealistic and never happens. Serial Killers don't stop killing unless they die, go to prison for life, go to prison for an unrelated crime (which causes a break in the cycle of killings) or they change their M.O. to avoid detection. They don't just up and stop one day.

I completly agree with you that it would be a lame ending, but just playing devil's advocate here:

Why not? Serial killers might never reform, but who says they can't ever stop killing. If they did just up and stop, then it means we never caught them, so we would never know about it.

And the Zodiac killer apparently just up and stopped, as we have never caught him but there were no more murders.

[Devil_666]

How do we know Dexter was even meant to be a killer? Cruelty to animals is a definite red flag, but not a deciding factor.

True. But coupled with the trauma of his mom dying that single red flag becomes more. Yes kids can be cruel to animals and end up perfectly normal as adults. But when you take into account Dexter's past and THEN factor in him also killing/abusing animals it's not just "typical kid behavior".

No blame should be placed on Harry? Has the question even been answered: Did Harry actually turn Dexter into a killer for his own selfish reasons?

Harry did not turn Dexter into a serial killer. Dexter's brother experienced the same trauma and turned out to be a serial killer too. Only difference: without Harry's mentoring he killed random, innocent people. The only thing Harry did with Dexter is he taught him to select "criminals" for his victims to avoid detection/attention from the cops. Dexter was going to kill regardless.

when he does kill them, it's an immediately fatal stab to the heart as he has explained...

Death from a knife wound to the heart is NOT instantaneous and painless. You might wanna do some minor research on that. The only organ in your entire body that can cause instantaneous death when severely damaged is your brain. "Fatal" does not = painless. Which is what you originally said and what I originally responded to.

why did Harry tell him it's the first "human" thing he's seen him do since Rita's death?

Really!? Ironic considering you said..

who was it the posed the question "Are we even all watching the same show?"

That's not really Harry bro. That's Dexter's self-conscious. So Harry didn't say anything to Dexter. :slap

So the difference is that there is "justice" involved, correct?

No. Just No.

Serial Killer. Key word there is KILLER. You don't have to kill, EVER, to be considered a vigilante. For example the Guardian Angels are considered vigilantes. They kill people? No, right? And if you wanna go fantasy, Batman is also considered a vigilante. Batman murders people? Didn't think so.

P.S.- Han shot first.

:lol:lol:lol

[DinoLast]

That would be terrible because it's unrealistic and never happens. Serial Killers don't stop killing unless they die, go to prison for life, go to prison for an unrelated crime (which causes a break in the cycle of killings) or they change their M.O. to avoid detection. They don't just up and stop one day.

Sorry, but there are cases of Serial Killers who stop killing other than the reasons you give
Myth: Serial Killers Cannot Stop Killing
Sometimes circumstances will change in a serial killer's life causing them to stop killing before they are caught. The FBI report said the circumstances can include increased participation in family activities, sexual substitution, and other diversions.

•Dennis Rader, the BTK killer, murdered 10 people from 1974 to 1991 and then did not kill again until he was caught in 2005. He told investigators that he engaged in auto-erotic activities to substitute for killing.

Anyway I'm sure we all have differing opinions of the Character, especially as he's a work of fiction. It's not really for me to say who is right and who is wrong.
Some people see Hannibal Lecter as a Hero. At the end of the day it's up to the individual Viewer or Reader to decided if he is or if he's not.

[Devil_666]

Dennis Rader, the BTK killer, murdered 10 people from 1974 to 1991 and then did not kill again until he was caught in 2005. He told investigators that he engaged in auto-erotic activities to substitute for killing.

Nope.

Rader also admitted in his interrogation that he was planning to kill again. He had even set a date, October 2004, and was stalking his intended victim.

Like I said.. serial killers never just stop.

[ShadowX81]

And as I said. Zodiac Killer.

Never caught. No more murders. Therefore he stopped.

[Devil_666]

And as I said. Zodiac Killer.

Never caught. No more murders. Therefore he stopped.

And as I said, there's no proof that the Zodiac Killer "stopped". He could've died, could've gone to prison for an unrelated crime and died in there, could have changed his M.O. to avoid detection or one theory could be correct: The Zodiac Killer wasn't a single individual, but a group. There's no proof of a Serial Killer that killed multiple people suddenly stopping and being cured of that desire.

[ShadowX81]

Mostly becuase if they stopped it means they never got caught and we never heard of them.

[DinoLast]

Nope.



Like I said.. serial killers never just stop.

It also so say in the FBI Report that they do.
God you're like a dog with a bone.

[Devil_666]

:lol:lol:lol

[die]

True. But coupled with the trauma of his mom dying that single red flag becomes more. Yes kids can be cruel to animals and end up perfectly normal as adults. But when you take into account Dexter's past and THEN factor in him also killing/abusing animals it's not just "typical kid behavior".

It's never "typical kid behavior", that's why it's called a red flag. Dexter suffers from PTSD, which is treatable, but Harry taught him to lie to anybody who tried to help him. How do we know progess could'nt have been made? Because he's actually making progress now. In his effort to "fake" human emotions, he started to develop them. I mean does anybody believe he has never cared for anybody?

Harry did not turn Dexter into a serial killer. Dexter's brother experienced the same trauma and turned out to be a serial killer too. Only difference: without Harry's mentoring he killed random, innocent people. The only thing Harry did with Dexter is he taught him to select "criminals" for his victims to avoid detection/attention from the cops. Dexter was going to kill regardless.

Exactly, because Harry turned Dexter into a vigilante. Bryan never had that "privilege". Also he remembered things Dexter did not remember.

Death from a knife wound to the heart is NOT instantaneous and painless. You might wanna do some minor research on that. The only organ in your entire body that can cause instantaneous death when severely damaged is your brain. "Fatal" does not = painless. Which is what you originally said and what I originally responded to.


Research? :slap

Here...let me Google that for you....

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=aorta+severed+instant+death


Argue if you like, it's been explained in the show & can be explained through medical science. But to prove the severity of your stubborness I'm hitting you with the "dreaded triple-headslap-to-dunno fakie" :slap:slap:slap:dunno


That's not really Harry bro. That's Dexter's self-conscious. So Harry didn't say anything to Dexter.:slap


Actually read what I wrote. I already said Harry is a manifestation of Dexter's conscience. Harry is the one who gave Dexter a conscience, so that's what he visualizes. The question needs to be answered as to why was Dexter's conscience ok with what he did? When "harry" appears, Dexter says what?

You don't know, so I'll tell you: "I thought you left me".

Which translates into, Dexter thought he "lost it"...much like one of us would do if somebody murdered somebody we truly loved. We all have the capacity to lose touch with our conscience and go full caveman on somebody under the right circumstances, we just all have different limits.

make sense now? :slap

No. Just No.

Serial Killer. Key word there is KILLER. You don't have to kill, EVER, to be considered a vigilante. For example the Guardian Angels are considered vigilantes. They kill people? No, right? And if you wanna go fantasy, Batman is also considered a vigilante. Batman murders people? Didn't think so.

Guardian Angels are your example? :lol

What are the Salvation Army? Extortionists??? :lol

Again, you should actually read my posts instead of trying to twist something to your advantage. In my comparison of him to a vigilante, I said "he does the detective work of Batman" and the "executions of the Punisher". Is that not easy enough to grasp? I also mentioned how it was even highlighted with The Dark Defender angle in the show, remember now? A direct reference to such comic figures.

Batman doesn't murder people? Are you sure???

Didn't you see Batman Begins? Try this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZEvGaU0NHs

Yeah, I was just kidding, but....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7xtHCBMi6Q&feature=fvsr

Ok, I know that's probably a more contraversial topic than the one that we are actually currently discussing, but it's possible that the only reason Bruce Wayne threw that gun away was because he didn't have a cop teaching him the benefits of murdering bad guys, disposing of the bodies and perfecting the art of not getting caught

now I ask...

DO YOU YIELD, SIR???

[Devil_666]

:lol:lol:lol

Dexter suffers from PTSD, which is treatable

Lots of people suffer from PTSD and don't become Serial Killers. Lots of people suffer through horrific, life altering events that make Dexter's "born in blood" incident look tame in comparison and guess what, they don't become Serial Killers. It's not just the event bro. It's the person.

Exactly, because Harry turned Dexter into a vigilante.

No. Harry insured that Dexter's Serial Killings would appear to be the work of a vigilante. But again, Dexter is NOT a vigilante. He's sick in the head and kills for his own twisted enjoyment and pleasure. He takes trophies from his victims and chops up their bodies to avoid detection.

Argue if you like, it's been explained in the show & can be explained through medical science.

:slap:slap:slap

The only trauma that can cause instantaneous death i.e. 100% painless (like you originally said) is trauma to the brain. Decapitation, a GSW, etc. the victim would feel no pain because they wouldn't have a brain to TELL THEM they were in pain. A severed aorta (which is what you linked) STILL takes seconds to kill someone and STILL causes pain. Is it fast? Absolutely. But is a severed aorta from a big *** knife going through your chest instant and painless? Nope. And within the world of the TV show, you can see Dexter's victims reacting to the stab before dying. They aren't smiling and giggling either. They're in f'n pain. Why is this hard for you to understand!?

make sense now?

Nah.. it's just more convoluted since you were wrong. Good job of trying to avoid that fact though. :wave

As far as the whole vigilante thing, instead of reading what I wrote and accepting the fact that a vigilante does NOT have to kill in order to be considered as such while a Serial Killer HAS to kill in order to be considered as such (a difference you failed to acknowledge originally) you just wrote even more stuff avoiding yet again that you were wrong.

:slap

[CelticPredator]

Dexter is awesome.

[Dark Passenger]

Dexter is awesome.

:lecture

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[Devil_666]

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5374/trollfacezn.png

[CelticPredator]

^ HAhahahahahaha....

[Devil_666]

:lol:lol:lol

[die]

Goonies never say die, right!!!!

The only trauma that can cause instantaneous death i.e. 100% painless (like you originally said) is trauma to the brain. Decapitation, a GSW, etc. the victim would feel no pain because they wouldn't have a brain to TELL THEM they were in pain. A severed aorta (which is what you linked) STILL takes seconds to kill someone and STILL causes pain. Is it fast? Absolutely. But is a severed aorta from a big *** knife going through your chest instant and painless? Nope. And within the world of the TV show, you can see Dexter's victims reacting to the stab before dying. They aren't smiling and giggling either. They're in f'n pain. Why is this hard for you to understand!?

but...but...but...I even Googled it for you :monkey2

Did you actually click any of those links, how about the first one? Medical Report used in court?


The evidence shows that the stab severed the aorta, resulting in instant death.

Decapitation painless? Do your research. Studies on decapped rats show that they are still able to feel pain for about 3 seconds afterwards, which is still considered to be humane, but shoots your severed aorta theory into dust.

Shall you contest this fact, too? I can drop some links if need be.


Are you familiar with the carotid artery? that supplies oxygen to the brain. Dexter injects M99 directly into it to imediately shut a person down. We've also seen him use the rear naked choke, which is his pretty much his plan B. With a rear naked choke, pain is not so much the factor, it's the fear before you pass out. Dexter's methods are actually much more humane than our own legal system's methods of execution.

But yeah, you'll argue, right? Then compare it to lethal injection if you'd like...

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7269-execution-by-injection-far-from-painless.html


"the execution could last up to 10 minutes."


"Without adequate anaesthesia, the authors say, the person being executed would experience asphyxiation, a severe burning sensation, massive muscle cramping and cardiac arrest - which would constitute the "cruel and unusual" punishment expressly forbidden by the US constitution's Eighth Amendment."

As far as the whole vigilante thing, instead of reading what I wrote and accepting the fact that a vigilante does NOT have to kill in order to be considered as such while a Serial Killer HAS to kill in order to be considered as such (a difference you failed to acknowledge originally) you just wrote even more stuff avoiding yet again that you were wrong.

That makes ZERO sense.

You're the one who ignores the fact that kill or no kill, laws are upheld or justice is being served.:slap

I've explained that at least 3 times to you already. Go back and read, I gave you multiple examples of bloodlust consuming people. Remember? I think I was the one who's been comparing 2 different vigilantes, right? Batman & Punisher? Did Punisher only avenge his family? Did he show compassion towards any of his victims? Punisher makes Dexter look like Aqua Man. :lol

We can speculate all we want about whether Dexter would've become a killer or not, but as for FACTS....Dexter's first victim was a murderer nurse and he was protecting Harry. Harry told Dexter to do it, remember? This is how he was hooked one way or another, he even says it in his voiceover. The comparison was even made within the first season as to what Dexter "could've become" with the fake Ice Truck Killer: Neil Perry. Remember the home full of dead animals and the body he kept? But, he just didn't have the killer instinct for it to go beyond that. Keep in mind, Dexter hadn't killed anybody before he met Harry, he'd only killed animals after he met Harry & his first actual murder was an act of vigilante justice.

"You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting."

[die]

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Eeeeeeexactly!

[Devil_666]

Studies on decapped rats...

lmao. Show me a study with human beings that proves that. Right.

Keep in mind, YOU'RE the one saying that death is both instantaneous AND painless when Dexter stabs his victims through the chest with a big *** knife. I agree that death would be fast (with a severed aorta) but it would definitely not be instantaneous AND definitely not painless. Even the crap you linked agrees with me. :slap

As far as the whole vigilante thing that you continue to babble on about.. you're still avoiding the initial exchange we had. You said the only difference between a Serial Killer and a Vigilante (according to the dictionary definitions you copied) was "Justice".

I corrected you and added another difference: Killing goes hand-in-hand with being a Serial Killer. Can't just go around wounding people and be considered a Serial Killer. Right? But you can go around like the Guardian Angels and protect the streets and stop crime and be considered a Vigilante without ever killing someone.

So you were wrong. But instead of admitting it you continually rant and rave about Batman, the Punisher and every other comic book guy you can think of to avoid that fact. It's fun to read though!

[ChaserFan]

Sooo, how about that 'Dexter' show huh?

[Devil_666]

Great show.

[CelticPredator]

I pleasure myself until the end of the episode.

[Devil_666]

:lol:lol:lol

[hairlesswookiee]

Anyone else ready for the season finale??

[DinoLast]

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5374/trollfacezn.png

:lol:lol:lol

[CelticPredator]

Anyone else ready for the season finale??

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[DinoLast]

Anyone else ready for the season finale??

Yes and no. Yes, because I'm sure it's going to be a great finale, and no because we have to wait until September for our next Dexter fix

[-jay-]

Yes and no. Yes, because I'm sure it's going to be a great finale, and no because we have to wait until September for our next Dexter fix

:exactly: Just what i was going to say.

[die]

lmao. Show me a study with human beings that proves that. Right.

Keep in mind, YOU'RE the one saying that death is both instantaneous AND painless when Dexter stabs his victims through the chest with a big *** knife. I agree that death would be fast (with a severed aorta) but it would definitely not be instantaneous AND definitely not painless. Even the crap you linked agrees with me. :slap

As far as the whole vigilante thing that you continue to babble on about.. you're still avoiding the initial exchange we had. You said the only difference between a Serial Killer and a Vigilante (according to the dictionary definitions you copied) was "Justice".

I corrected you and added another difference: Killing goes hand-in-hand with being a Serial Killer. Can't just go around wounding people and be considered a Serial Killer. Right? But you can go around like the Guardian Angels and protect the streets and stop crime and be considered a Vigilante without ever killing someone.

So you were wrong. But instead of admitting it you continually rant and rave about Batman, the Punisher and every other comic book guy you can think of to avoid that fact. It's fun to read though!



-Yeah, let me get those results for you right now, because, you know, people volunteer to be decapitated all the time :lol

- "I'm" not the one saying death is instantaneous, the medical examiners are saying that. How'd you miss the quote from one of the reports? It was in giant text :lol

- The "crap" linked actually disagrees with you :lol

- No, I didn't say that was the only difference. I've already stated that vigilantes can kill or not kill that's not a deciding factor, that's why I referenced Batman and Punisher, 2 vigilantes with very different methods. Common sense. :slap

but yeah, I'm ready to see what happens tonight. What is everybody's predictions for Lumen? Live or die? How about Quinn?

We know Jordan Chase is a dead man.

[barryo]

tonight is the night............:horror

:panic:
:panic:
:panic:
:panic:
:panic:

[CelticPredator]

And it's going to happen again...and again....next september....

[Dark Passenger]

Awesome episode!! I felt so sorry for Dexter, but I am glad Lumen lived.

I am really happy he cleared Quinn, I've grown to like Quinn this season.

I loved how they handled the whole "Drop it" thing from the teaser last week.

Really good to see a happy ending.

Wonder if Quinn knowing Dexter killed Liddy will turn into anything next season...

All in all, great season!

[CelticPredator]

I dont think it will. Quinn could've EASILY gave up Dexter when he was incarcerated. But he didnt. For Deb. He knows....but since Dexter saved him, he will keep his secret safe.

[Devil_666]

Eh.. as far as a stand alone episode I thought it was cool and on par with the others this season. But as far as a season finale.. it was pretty weak. I guess Sons of Anarchy's season finale set the bar too high. :lol

[CelticPredator]

Compared to the last one, I couldnt handle a crazy ballsy super shocker ending. ____ that! I liked it because it was happy. I love a good shocker bad ending....but dont give that to me everytime. :D

[Dark Passenger]

Compared to the last one, I couldnt handle a crazy ballsy super shocker ending. ____ that! I liked it because it was happy. I love a good shocker bad ending....but dont give that to me everytime. :D

I am so with you on this. I was all in for a happy ending this season.

[CelticPredator]

But dispite that, I do think the season on a whole was pretty weak. Not the best, perhaps the worst....but I still enjoyed it at times.

[Dark Passenger]

I rate the seasons as this so far. 1,4,5,2,3.

[Mr. EcKo]

well i guess i was pretty close in my last post but i deleted it :slap


by Dexter clearing Quinn ... as far as the season went , it kinda sucked IMO . i mean wtf i was a little disappointed . I knew Deb was gunna look the other way , the season was kinda perdictable . We will just have to wait til next season i guess. Dexter got dumped wtf

[CelticPredator]

Better then killing everyone off like they do every season imo. :dunno

[Devil_666]

Yeah, let me get those results for you right now, because, you know, people volunteer to be decapitated all the time :lol

Exactly. So bringing up a study with rats in a conversation about humans is irrelevant. Thank you.

"I'm" not the one saying death is instantaneous, the medical examiners are saying that. How'd you miss the quote from one of the reports? It was in giant text :lol

:slap:slap:slap

Again, when a medical examiner (and even DEXTER in this last episode) says "instantaneous" that does not mean painless and it does not mean the person died the instant they were stabbed. Seemed pretty obvious to me Liddy was in extreme pain and conscious for a few seconds after Dexter stabbed him. Yeah? Seemed pretty obvious to me ALL of Dexter's victims shown in the intro recap were in extreme pain and conscious for a few seconds after Dexter stabbed them. Yeah? Why do you think he gags them!? They all shot up in pain from the initial knife pierce and attempted to scream. From the pain. You know, that thing you said his victims don't feel.

The "crap" linked actually disagrees with you :lol

No, actually it agrees with me because I understand the difference.

A few examples of sudden death are those resulting from cardiac causes, respiratory arrest (such as due to airway obstruction, which may be seen in cases of choking or asphyxiation), toxicity or poisoning, anaphylaxis, and trauma. In all these cases, there remains some body and neurological function, such as gasping, musculo-skeletal posturing, blinking, etc. These events indicate death is imminent but has not yet occurred. Furthermore, these terminal events require at least some elemental brainstem function.

Sounds a lot like Dexter's victims, right? Gasping, musculo-skeletal posturing, blinking, etc.

Conversely, when death is instantaneous, the event resulting in death causes the person to lose all brainstem function with no perceptible passage of time from the event until death. Obviously, instantaneous death is rare.

Sounds nothing like Dexter's victims, right? A fatal stab wound to the aorta does not cause the victim to immediately lose all brainstem function. Your brain needs oxygen to survive, oxygen provided by blood, which is still available (even for mere seconds) after the aorta is punctured.

Best example would be your computer. Instantaneous Death would be like pulling the plug. The computer and all power shuts off the minute the plug is removed. But if you manually shut down your computer it's not "Instantaneous". It's fast.. but not "Instantaneous". Pretty simple concept. :wave

No, I didn't say that was the only difference.

Initially you did. Which is what prompted my response. Did you change that later? Yes. But that was after I showed how you were initially wrong. It's all good man.

Compared to the last one, I couldnt handle a crazy ballsy super shocker ending. ____ that! I liked it because it was happy. I love a good shocker bad ending....but dont give that to me everytime. :D

:lol I didn't mean it had to be bad or shocking. SOA's finale was a happy ending (all things considered). I just meant more thrilling I guess. iunno.

[CelticPredator]

I agree, it could've been more. But I dunno....you cant beat the ending last season....:lol It was too intense. :D

[Devil_666]

But it was an AWESOME season finale. Right?

[CelticPredator]

Yes. I did enjoy it. But I agree it could've been more.

[Dark Passenger]

Next season is wide open with pretty much no loose ends. Wonder if Lumen is really done or what? If Deb and Quinn have a bad break up...

[Devil_666]

Is next season the end!? I could swear I read that Dexter was ending soon.

[die]

I knew things would end up like that for Dexter & Quinn, still was nice to see it unfold like it did. Dexter looked pretty sad about losing Lumen...or perhaps he's just gotten better at faking it all !!!!!!!!!!!

The part with Debra, was done really well and Michael C. Hall did some nice facial expression acting in the scene with Lumen. This was a nice season for sure, I rank them 1,2,4,5,3. I mean Season 4 had an awesome ending, but the stuff with Dex, Lila and Doakes was epic as was the actual ending.

Props to Devil_666 for DOING IT FOR THE LOLZ. You twisted my words, twisted the words of medical examiners and now for the cou de gras, the twisting of Dexter's words! I actually really did LOL in the van scene where Dexter described Robocop's death.


Well played, sir. I have truly enjoyed our little debate. Like I said earlier in the thread, it's great that the show sparks different emotions in people and completely different opinions can be made:lol



F.Y.I- That's not a look of pain and suffering in the victim's faces, that's the blank instant death stare as oxygen is immediately deprived from the brain so they can't feel the puncture. Lumen was asking Jordan Chase something as she stabbed him.... why didn't he at least attempt to answer for a second or two. Redundant question, I know.


Now, the long tortureous wait begins.:impatient:

[Devil_666]

Lumen was asking Jordan Chase something as she stabbed him.... why didn't he at least attempt to answer for a second or two.

I don't know about you, but the last thing I'd want to do is talk after a big *** knife was just jammed into my chest. Let alone talk to the person who just did it. :lol:lol:lol

[Seditionary]

Thought the finale, and this season, was pretty awesome. Bummer about Lumen.

I felt like there was a weird piece of noise in the final score when they showed astor and cody. Was thinking that might be a cue for next seasons tone.

[316what]

So I guess next season we'll get to see more of Astor's "big girl" look and Cody's accurate impressions of Eli Manning.:gah:

I wonder if they just dropped the beheadings case or if it will pick up next season?

[CelticPredator]

They solved it....those two guys were the killers. And that was that.

[316what]

They solved it....those two guys were the killers. And that was that.

They didn't solve it since one of the brothers is still on the loose. Therefore it is still an open/active case.

[CelticPredator]

I thought he was taken in....oh well.

Barrel Girls was more important anyway. :lol

[shanghei]

anyone else reminded of the joker by jordan chases acting?

[Devil_666]

I wonder if they just dropped the beheadings case or if it will pick up next season?

I think they'll either drop it or at the most make it a very minor subplot just to quickly wrap up that story (maybe even make Marco a Dexter victim).

Main reason I think that is because Marco wasn't as prominent of a character (didn't have as much dialog or face time) as Carlos, who got killed.

[Giant Chicken]

Overall, the season ties season 3 as my least favorite. I thought the season was very predictable. I am very glad that Lumen is out of the picture. The only surprise for me was that Deb did not find out about Dexter. I had myself convinced that she would catch him in the act as the episode concluded. Turns out that everything wrapped up nicely just like season 3.

Even though I love Dexter I hope next season is the last. I dont know how long they can drag out this story and have it remain "fresh". Also, did they switch out the Cody actor again? Cody looked pretty goofy tonight. I dont remember him looking like that.

[RICEaRONI]

"Dreams are for children..."


awesome closing line. good season finale. I'm bummed about Lumen though but she was only a "special guest star"

next season is very open and I'm sort of hoping it's the last

[ChaserFan]

Loved the season finale! Dexter clearing Quinn was a nice touch; I think having things end badly for Quinn would've been too much of a downer on top of Lumen leaving.

And now the wait begins...only 9 months to go!!! :lol

[Grange Wallis]

Yeah, this ending was a little depressing no? I saw it coming, but it's a shame... I kinda of like the anti-hero having his anti-heronine. Although she was too accident prone! I loved the tension in the scene with Debra, Lumen & Dexter... That was great!

I have to say the Dexter & Debra relationship, is turning into a classic Lois & Clark... As in you want her to find out his secret!

[DinoLast]

Great finale to a up and down season. I would say it slightly edged Season 3 for the last 4 episodes. Season 6 will start with a clean slate so that's good. It should be interesting to see how Quinn is with Dexter from now on, especially as he knows Dexter covered for him for obvious reasons.

[316what]

Also, did they switch out the Cody actor again? Cody looked pretty goofy tonight. I dont remember him looking like that.

Same kid just getting older.

[Seditionary]

I definitely think this season was better than season 3. As far as dexter trying to connect with someone..it seems like he finally has. I think he's convinced that he cannot do both things anymore. I do feel like his dark passenger was put to the side for Lumen's darkness. I mean, he killed and did everything more of a necessity and he let her do most of the killing. I think that makes it less about the ritual and more about correcting wrongness.

I wonder if it is fading in a way also?


anyone else reminded of the joker by jordan chases acting?
Yeah, like the whole, "Scum like you made me who I am."

[cokebabies]

I definitely think this season was better than season 3. As far as dexter trying to connect with someone..it seems like he finally has. I think he's convinced that he cannot do both things anymore. I do feel like his dark passenger was put to the side for Lumen's darkness. I mean, he killed and did everything more of a necessity and he let her do most of the killing. I think that makes it less about the ritual and more about correcting wrongness.

I wonder if it is fading in a way also?

The murkiness of where his Passenger stands now was done very well. It seems like the Passenger's bloodlust was satiated when he was helping Lumen, I guess through the act of murder by proxy. Watch Dexter's face when Lumen was talking to Chase on the table... that mix of admiration and excitement at her growth was great.

But now that Lumen's gone, I think the reset button will be hit. When he said he would take on her darkness, him saying that is less metaphorical than someone else saying that. Without her revenge to concentrate on, I think his own bloodlust will return.

As for the overall episode, I really liked the ending. It wrapped things up nicely (in both senses of that word), and tied up loose ends, just not too tightly. There are still aspects of this season that can be explored, should they choose to.

What happened with Dexter and Quinn was very close to what I predicted. Both had the opportunity to screw each other over, and both didn't for the same reason: Deb. Quinn's development as a character is coming along well. He's gone from a character who was just there, to someone who actually impacted the plot.

The Deb / Dexter and Lumen situation was great. In the later episodes, it was clear Deb understood 13's motivations, as well as her partner's. Her decision to let them go was surprising, but not ridiculous, since her logic had been set up in previous episodes.

This season was up and down for me. The first half was a bit rocky, but the second half was absolutely fantastic.

It's tough to order the seasons, because some had aspects I really liked. Season two had a great Doakes storyline, but I never loved the Lila aspect. If I had to order, I'd say: 1, 4, 3, 2, 5.

But I wound up really liking this season, so "last place" is merely by default, not an indication that it wasn't good.

/long *** post.

[DinoLast]

I see some have listed the order of their favourite Seasons so here is mine

4,2,1,5,3

[Dark Passenger]

I agree that Lumen's Passenger took lead. I think Cole was the only proper kill as far as collecting a blood sample for his Slide Box and keeping with the Ritual, but he gave the slide to Lumen. Boyd's was in a Tupperware and Alex's went to Lumen as well I think. Lumen killed Jordan before he got to collect a Blood Slide from him.
I think the first episode was the only appearance of the Blood Box and only because he took it out of the shipping container. This season was more of Dexter helping someone to cope with Rita's death. His ritual and his own Dark Passenger took a back seat this year.
Seems like Dex also made a lot of mistakes and he did kill 2 innocent people, the bathroom guy and Liddy. Liddy was in self defense though. Dexter started it :pfft: with the Bathroom Guy.

[barryo]

................................DEXTER

Episode (season) VI............."Return of the Lumen"


:panic::panic:



j/k...............:wave

[316what]

I wonder if next season will be awkward since "Dexter" and "Deb" are getting a divorce.:panic::panic::panic:

[RICEaRONI]

I wonder if next season will be awkward since "Dexter" and "Deb" are getting a divorce.:panic::panic::panic:

good, she's heinous anyways.

[SwedishHeat]

It says they've been separated for a while, and it doesn't look like the show has suffered any, sooooo. . . I think she's sticking around.

[ChaserFan]

Huh, MCH and Jennifer Carpenter are getting divorced? Well, there you go.

[Dark Passenger]

Hope it doesn't effect the show at all. I doubt it will. Hollywood romances are silly anyway.

[CelticPredator]

SEASON 6: The RETURN OF DOAKES.

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[Devil_666]

2 failed marriages. 3rd times a charm!? :lol

[Seditionary]

My favs are definitely right now: 1, 2, 4, 5, 3.
I loved season 4, but I've watched it twice and I do feel like it isn't exactly a breeze to watch. When I rewatch this season I'll have a better idea how I'd rank it. 5 was more fun/interesting to me as far as it's flow but was sort of an anxiety attack until the last 12 minutes. Season 4 has such a specific atmosphere and a great slight tension building all the way through

Bummer about those two splittin. I doubt they will have any issues with maintaining a professional and friendly relationship. I'm sure they've had a pretty tough time with everything considered. I doubt they'd wanna disappear from one another after hall being so sick.

Man, I timed ____ poorly. I just finished watching twin peaks, now dexter, boardwalk empire, and pretty much everything else I watch is over.

What the hell is there to watch? any suggestions.

[ChaserFan]

Seeing as everyone else is rating the seasons...for me it's 4, 5, 3, 2, 1.

Yup.

[Dark Passenger]

Seeing as everyone else is rating the seasons...for me it's 4, 5, 3, 2, 1.

Yup.

Strange to see Season 1 last.

[die]

Yeah, Season 1 in last place? Definitely first time I've seen that.

I'd kinda like to see Season 6 have Dexter trying to go back to his old ways. They should pick up next season with summer ending and all 3 of the kids going to live together with the grandparents. Dexter will be back in his apartment and fully devoted to killing again for a while. I'd really like to see it somehow revealed that the Bay Harbor Butcher is still around and have LaGuerta become obsesssed with clearing Doakes again. Maybe people will keep telling Dexter that he needs to move on and date again and maybe he'll feel the pressure to get somebody for cover like he did with Rita? It could be a nice way to introduce a totally different type of female character, like maybe one Dexter really doesn't care for but uses her for something. Time to start bowling again too!

Just thinking outloud here, but I definitely don't want to see a whole season of stuff with the kids, that's for sure. That would be an epic fail.

[ChaserFan]

Just because I put S1 last, doesn't mean I think there's anything wrong with it. For me, there's hardly anything in it between all the seasons, so if I were to rate them, that'd be it.

[die]

Nothing wrong with that at all, Chaser. I'm sure that some people who may have seen the seasons out of sequence may have a difference of opinion as well. Like if you saw Season 3 first and then went back and watched the first 2 seasons, it might not have the same impact that it would have on a person who'd seen them all in order.

For me, seasons 1 & 2 are perfection. Some people may rank season 2 lower because they hated Lila (she was very much hated but she does have nice breasts :1-1:) and some may rank Season 3 higher because most loved Smits as Miguel Prado.

[Dark Passenger]

Nothing wrong with it at all Chaser, just strange to see Season 1 last is all. They were all good seasons IMO. There really wasn't a weak one, just some not as good.

[cokebabies]

I'm glad the kids asked to live with Dexter "for the summer". He gets to connect/reconnect with them, and we don't have to see it.

[hairlesswookiee]

I'm glad the kids asked to live with Dexter "for the summer". He gets to connect/reconnect with them, and we don't have to see it.

:lecture Superdad!!!!

[ChaserFan]

Nothing wrong with that at all, Chaser. I'm sure that some people who may have seen the seasons out of sequence may have a difference of opinion as well. Like if you saw Season 3 first and then went back and watched the first 2 seasons, it might not have the same impact that it would have on a person who'd seen them all in order.

For me, seasons 1 & 2 are perfection. Some people may rank season 2 lower because they hated Lila (she was very much hated but she does have nice breasts :1-1:) and some may rank Season 3 higher because most loved Smits as Miguel Prado.

Nothing wrong with it at all Chaser, just strange to see Season 1 last is all. They were all good seasons IMO. There really wasn't a weak one, just some not as good.

I've watched the show since the beginning, so it's not that I've watched them out of order or anything. But yeah, I can definitely see how that could result in S1 or 2 been down the bottom. I think for me, every season just seems to get better and better...except 5, I don't think it had a chance to top S4, especially with 4's ending.

And for the record, when S2 aired, I thought no season could top it, so :lol

[Dark Passenger]

I've watched the show since the beginning, so it's not that I've watched them out of order or anything. But yeah, I can definitely see how that could result in S1 or 2 been down the bottom. I think for me, every season just seems to get better and better...except 5, I don't think it had a chance to top S4, especially with 4's ending.

And for the record, when S2 aired, I thought no season could top it, so :lol

Yeah I hear you. I try to watch them as individual Seasons and not to think about previous ones.
Topping 4 though, I think the topping thing we're talking about is the finale ending? Season 4 as a whole wasn't as suspenseful as Season 5 (IMO), though 4 was more interesting. Watching Season 5 I kept thinking Dexter was going to be caught and the suspense was right up there with Season 2. Every season had its moments of Oh WTF!!

[cokebabies]

Season 4 as a whole wasn't as suspenseful as Season 5 (IMO), though 4 was more interesting.

Definitely agreed.

[Seditionary]

I third that!

[cokebabies]

Not too related but... I got my brother, who's 19, into Dexter a few months before season 5 started. I sent him the pilot and said "You'll probably like this", he then proceeded to watch all four seasons in the span of literally three weeks.

I was talking to him about Trinity, and saying how it was crazy to see Lithgow in a role like that. He told me he had no idea who Lithgow was, and when I went through his IMDB top see what he'd know, it was odd how little of his work I'd actually seen. And yet he is such a ubiquitous actor to me.

[barryo]

lithgow has been by far the best guest on the show & will probably never be topped........:lecture

[Devil_666]

lithgow has been by far the best guest on the show & will probably never be topped........:lecture

I enjoyed the combo of him and Caradine.

[Dark Passenger]

Lithgow was awesome. Crazy how well rounded he is as an actor. One scene that comes to mind is when he kidnapped Scott. He is talking about Vera and he starts crying and I actually felt bad for him, (while he was going to kill a 10 year old boy within the next 15 minutes realtime. LOL).

[RICEaRONI]

Sources close to the set of Dexter claim that Michael C. Hall, who recently announced his split from co-star and wife of two years, Jennifer Carpenter, may have ended his marriage because he was becoming romantically interested in series guest star Julia Stiles!

The insider reveals:

"They have a lot of chemistry and seemed to be extra cozy with each other. The way he's been behaving lately you would have never thought his marriage just ended. I figured something was definitely up once I heard about the divorce announcement."

[Dark Passenger]

Hollywood romances are silly. I was reading this on gossip sites too. As long as the show remains unaffected I don't care what happens.

[Devil_666]

Well what do you expect when your job requires you to kiss and have pretend-sex with other people. Even worse is Porno stars, still don't understand those people getting married. :lol

[cokebabies]

You know the Scott Nails and Lacey Heart marriage was built on true love. They're soulmates.

[Gruson]

This season was ok and I actually liked Stiles (usually hate her) but it pales in comparison to the Lithgow season. The best season ever IMO.

[Calcifer]

This season was ok and I actually liked Stiles (usually hate her) but it pales in comparison to the Lithgow season. The best season ever IMO.

When Dex and Arthur come face to face in the police station ..imo that was one of the most epic scenes in tv history!

[hairlesswookiee]

Well what do you expect when your job requires you to kiss and have pretend-sex with other people. Even worse is Porno stars, still don't understand those people getting married. :lol

Especially when they're married to people not in the business. The last thing I'd want is sloppy sevenths every night.

[Seditionary]

Julia stiles said : “I have absolutely nothing to do with the split between Michael and Jennifer … Although I too prefer to keep my private life, private — I felt compelled to dispel the rumors I was somehow the cause for this matter.”

Celebrity bull____. Of course that gossip site would start to report that..."sources report." yeah, ok. I hear deb is starting to ACTUALLY date quinn now, but in real life!?!!

It's sort of insulting to everyone involved to think that the actors can't separate their work from reality.

lezztalkabowda show.


I've been wondering...do you think they will ever go into Rita's first husband?
I'm also wondering if they will make him have to train one of his kids to be the same as him...or would he?

[Mr. EcKo]

well after a mediocre season 5 /// i am now starting all over again with season 1 .. i love reliving all the seasons :yess:

[Devil_666]

It's sort of insulting to everyone involved to think that the actors can't separate their work from reality.

Not when that "work" involves kissing and having pretend sex with people that are NOT your spouse. What's actually insulting is to suggest that actors are somehow above normal people and immune to normal human emotions. Look at Brad Pitt, he's an actor and guess what: He admitted he fell in love with Angelina Jolie ON-SET while filming "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" which led to his divorce. Guess who he hooked up with afterwards?

It happens. It's normal. What's abnormal is married people pretending like they're still single for their work. :lol

[Seditionary]

I'm commenting on the fact that it is such an obvious conclusion to make. I see what your saying, but it's not like he also fell in love with julie benz or that lola or leia or whatever chick british/french/samoin...if they were still on the show during this divorce theyd be the other ones the "sources" would report breaking up the marriage. I certainly didn't mean to say that they are above normal people in not feeling emotions...but they are actors..that's their job.It's like some people saying the joker role killed heath ledger...no,no..it was insomnia, pain pills, anxiety medication and an olsen twin that did that. You can't possibly think that everytime someone makes out in front of a camera that they are going to fall in love and break up a marriage. Filming these scenes isn't going to be like how they are cut/seen on to the viewer on television or in the movies...i'm sure its very romantic having a film crew around eating sandwiches and farting in the background. seems naive to me..especially since some fat homosexual or someone wrote about it on their celebrity gossip blog. Brad pitt and angelina jolie are also horrible examples. It's like two flamming pieces of holy ____ flying into one another in the sky for all to see and admire. Not to dispell that people sure meet on set and ____...not saying that.

your friend,
Michael C. Hall

p.s. besides ms. benz and stiles, it could possibly be one of the former gay lovers on that other show...how about that

[Devil_666]

No I understand, just like in real life you could kiss and fondle 100 women while married and not fall for any of them. But the point is, it's more likely if you're put in that situation. Most married people will never be in a position to essentially cheat and be able to call it "work". It's more temptation than most normal married people will ever endure.

[Seditionary]

this is true. :goodpost:

Off topic, I saw a crap ton of those dexter 6 inch figures at toys r us today. Looked sort of decent.

[Devil_666]

Dexter has toys!? :lol

[barryo]

Julia stiles is way hotter than M.A.H.'S boy looking wife.......:lecture



:monkey1

[Devil_666]

I think they're both kinda blah TBH. Julie Benz is hotter. :lol

[Dark Passenger]

I liked Yasmin, the broad who got killed by the Fuentes brothers in the club.

[Calcifer]

Everyone in dexter is funny looking imo, ..dex,deb,quinn,lumen ..not ugly but very unique facial structures.

[clockwork463]

Shows starting to slip they should end it before it outlasts it's stay....

[Mr. EcKo]

Ok lets get this thread back on the tracks , seeing that everyone is pissed off over the news of the Trevor Dex Head being cancelled.:gah::mad:


So , i am rewatching Season 5 now and man i can't stand Laguerta in this season (she's such a C__T) :wave

[fawk3s]

Didnt like S5 too much. First 2 seasons were the most awesome.

[sueworld]

Oh I adored season 5. I thought the ending tapered off a wee bit but apart from that I simply loved it. Kept my attention the entire time which is rare when it comes to shows these days.

[Mr. EcKo]

Well thats how the show is

Is so well written / directed and produced that there isn't a boring moment in any episode . Your hooked right in and can't look away - My favorite show by far - not that i watch much TV but i can't stay away from Dexter - I've watched every season at least 4 times each :horror

[16k]

Well, I loved season 5 too. For me, so far, the most predictable was season One (I'm glad they steered away from the books after that) and the worst was season 3.

But season 2 was a gem that remains to be equalled!

[16k]

I've checked the preceding page to see if this had been posted before but didn't find it. Apologies if it's a repost...

Just found that on TV Line about season 6:

Dexter Morgan’s little underground vigilante operation is about to reopen for business.

Production on Dexter‘s sixth season gets underway at month’s end — ahead of a likely September premiere — and TVLine has an early look at the new blood being brought in to fill the void left by Julia Stiles, Peter Weller and Co.

Among the three recurring roles being cast are…

| Jamie: Described as an outgoing and fun Latina in her mid-20s, this Florida native relocates to Miami for grad school.

| Chicago Mike: New thirtysomething African-American homicide detective who possesses a finely turned BS detector. The Windy City native does not play well with Dexter others.

| Louis: A buddy of Masuka’s (C.S. Lee) who joins MMP as a new lab intern. Role calls for a Caucasian actor in his 30s who is “attractive in his own way.”

[cokebabies]

| Chicago Mike: New thirtysomething African-American homicide detective who possesses a finely turned BS detector. The Windy City native does not play well with Dexter others.

Nice, looks like we could get another round of Doakes-esque battling.

My number one request for season 6: kill off La Guerta in the opening scene. :lecture

[Calcifer]

Nice, looks like we could get another round of Doakes-esque battling.


I hope he is not a complete rip off of Doakes, even if he is ,he won't be a patch on the original no bull____ motherf%@ker!

[cokebabies]

I hope he is not a complete rip off of Doakes, even if he is ,he won't be a patch on the original no bull____ motherf%@ker!

This show is too good to do a complete clone of a character that already existed. But I think they need a return of someone who both knows something's off with Dexter, but with some ***** / attitude to back it up.

Quinn / Robocop made for some good tension last season, but you knew that if anything nuts was going to happen, it would be Robocop doing it. Quinn didn't seem like he had what it would take to really push Dexter, and that's not even factoring the Deb relationship / end of season "mutual head nod" thing.

[ChaserFan]

YouTube - Dexter Season Six Tease

SWEET! :rock

[Mr. EcKo]

I think that was a Teaser for Season 5 :dunno Because nothing was shown or said about Season 5 Jordan Chase - Lumen - none of that :dunno

Why did they cut out Season 5 ???????????????????? In that Trailer Teaser

[ChaserFan]

Who knows! But it's definitely for season six...unless Showtime don't know their own trailers :dunno

[78Myers]

How much of a role will Lumen play in the next season, I find interesting. She knows, she is out there and IMO, that eventually, along with her stint for lust and Dexter's comfort level with her and that feeling they had may come back.

[Mr. EcKo]

Yeah , does anyone know if Lumen is gunna be in season 6 for sure ?


Dexter needs a man buddy this season .

I am curious to see Matsukas buddy that interns in the Lab , he's probably just as big of a pervert as Matsuka :lol

[78Myers]

With Harrison a tad older, it will interesting to see the dialogue between daddy and son - if any - and how he continues to juggle the duties of being a father, along with his dark passenger.

One things for sure; a-hole Quinn should count his blessings.

I'm sure though, Deb will be in for another un-happy ending with this relationship, as well.

[ShadowX81]

There is no way Lumen is going to be in Season 6. She wouldn't have taken off at the end if she was going to come back. She was a one season plotline, and I am confident that we won't see her again.

[Calcifer]

What i got from that teaser is that maybe there is a dexter copycat, someone who is maybe continuing the bay harbor butchers work ..we heard "You made me this way" and we had dex on the table himself..that could be just a dream however.

[Darklord Dave]

Sounds like Deb saying "oh my god, oh my god" - maybe she'll finally accept the truth?

[16k]

Not so sure about that...

I remember reading somewhere (not sure where, but probably TVline, that she would be in season 6 because her character had been very popular. Now, she might just be a guest, thigs may have changed since this or it was just a rumor, but I'm sure I've read it in a serious place...

There is no way Lumen is going to be in Season 6. She wouldn't have taken off at the end if she was going to come back. She was a one season plotline, and I am confident that we won't see her again.

[Teddy Daniels]

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh356/jelley370/mos-def-dexter-slice.jpg

We just recently learned that Colin Hanks would have a major character arc appearing in all 12 episodes on the forthcoming sixth season of Showtime’s serial killer drama series Dexter, and now another name has surfaced for a major role. THR reports rapper turned actor Mos Def (Be Kind Rewind) will also have a multi-episode arc on the hit series. Production will begin in June with Mos Def playing a hardened ex-con who claims to have found religion yet seems to continually find himself surrounded by violence. Apparently Dexter will actually reveal the truth behind who this man really is behind the front. Meanwhile, the report also reveals Hanks’ character will be a man name Travis, the main nemesis of the sixth season and a highly intelligent ancient artifacts expert who is linked to a series of grisly murders in Miami. Sound good?

Collider.com

[ChaserFan]

Mos Def...cool, I'm up for that.

[Calcifer]

Can't wait to see "Travis" on the table!:D

[vareika]

I'm a newcomer to Dexter. Just watched Seasons 1-5 in the past 2 weeks...wow what a great series...

[cokebabies]

I'm a newcomer to Dexter. Just watched Seasons 1-5 in the past 2 weeks

Has anyone who came late to Dexter not watched it that way? :rotfl Gotta be the most addicting show on TV.

I just re-watched season 5, and it is amazing what a luxury it is to be able to go "Oh, this episode just ended? Let's pop on the next one!" Waiting a week during the season is the WORST.

[Mr. EcKo]

:gah: Noooooo Mos def? Colin Hanks? WTF :gah:

What a sheeeeet casting job .:pfft:


Dude i've been rewatching every season over and over again , i don't watch regular TV at all , when i do sit on the couch , i watch Dexter :lol
Seriously too , my Girlfriend says geeezus you watching Dexter again ?


Yeah theres 5 seasons , thats alotta episodes :wink1:

[MarfMaster]

:gah: Noooooo Mos def? Colin Hanks? WTF :gah:

What a sheeeeet casting job .:pfft:



If you're a fan of the show you should have faith in it. Who knows, maybe this will be Colin Hanks' breakout role? Mos def is good for what it sounds like they're casting him for.

[Mr. EcKo]

If you're a fan of the show you should have faith in it. Who knows, maybe this will be Colin Hanks' breakout role? Mos def is good for what it sounds like they're casting him for.


Yeah i'll give it a shot , but i always see Colin Hanks as a Comedic actor :dunno

I just can't see him being serious , thats just me i guess .

[Calcifer]

Yeah i'll give it a shot , but i always see Colin Hanks as a Comedic actor :dunno

I just can't see him being serious , thats just me i guess .


I always seen John lithgow as a comedic actor ...until Dexter season 4.

Have faith in the casting.:wink1:

[ShadowX81]

Not so sure about that...

I remember reading somewhere (not sure where, but probably TVline, that she would be in season 6 because her character had been very popular.

Really? Thats suprising, as the reaction to her character seemed to be overwhelmingly negative.

[Teddy Daniels]

I really like Hanks, I am not sure about Mos Def yet I must admit but Hanks I think is a good cast

I like him in everything I have seen so far and he has a pretty good mentor :lol

[MarfMaster]

I always seen John lithgow as a comedic actor ...until Dexter season 4.

Have faith in the casting.:wink1:

Excellent point :lecture

I really like Hanks, I am not sure about Mos Def yet I must admit but Hanks I think is a good cast

I like him in everything I have seen so far and he has a pretty good mentor :lol

Yup, daddy's got range :lol

[vareika]

Wish there was some official Dexter 1:6...hunting down parts for a custom is so hard...

[Calcifer]

Wish there was some official Dexter 1:6...hunting down parts for a custom is so hard...

Ya ..it's really just the hands that cause the most trouble:gah:, but even if we got an official Dex i won't feel any regret for spending what i did on the custom figure ..as i'm confident no mass produced figure will ever top my custom, certainly not in the tailing anyway.

[vareika]

have you posted this anywhere, be interesting to take a peek hehe...I looked through a few custom threads and seems like theres quite a lot of sculpts out there right

[78Myers]

YouTube - Dexter Season Six Tease (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVApgr1Mqto&feature=player_embedded)

SWEET! :rock

cant wait for the new season...

[Calcifer]

have you posted this anywhere, be interesting to take a peek hehe...I looked through a few custom threads and seems like theres quite a lot of sculpts out there right

Well after Showtime's cease and desist's on almost everything dexter related on this site i'm keeping form posting any pictures of my custom on here ..but once i have my head painted i might send you a picture via pm:)

[Mr. EcKo]

but once i have my head painted i might send you a picture via pm:)

:wink1:I just finished painting mine and boy did i impress myself :panic:

[c3r1h5]

Well after Showtime's cease and desist's on almost everything dexter related on this site i'm keeping form posting any pictures of my custom on here ..but once i have my head painted i might send you a picture via pm:)

When did that happen? I completely missed it.

[vareika]

I didn't realize this either...hm...crazy...

[ShadowX81]

I always seen John lithgow as a comedic actor ...until Dexter season 4.

Have faith in the casting.:wink1:

True. And Ive always seen Julia Stiles as a crappy romantic comedy actress, .... until Dexter season 5 confirmed it.

Sometimes seemingly bad ideas really are bad ideas.

[Teddy Daniels]

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh356/jelley370/edward-james-olmos-dexter-slice.jpg

We’ve already heard that Mos Def and Colin Hanks would both join the sixth season of Showtime’s acclaimed series Dexter, and now yet another fine actor has joined the guest star line-up. The cable network has revealed that Edward James Olmos, star of such films as Blade Runner, Stand and Deliver and the series remake of Battlestar Galactica, will return to TV for an extended character arc on the series. Olmos will play a brilliant, charismatic professor of religious studies, but it’s not yet clear how he gets caught up in Dexter’s exploits in the forthcoming season. Production begins on May 25th in Los Angeles, and season six is slated to premiere sometime this fall on Showtime. I’m sure there’s plenty more guest stars to be revealed so stay tuned.

[78Myers]

http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh356/jelley370/edward-james-olmos-dexter-slice.jpg

:hi5: :yess: :hi5:

Dexter needs to dispose of Jaime Escalante.

[ChaserFan]

Yeah, the only thing I know him from is Stand and Deliver :lol

[Devil_666]

Never saw American Me?

[CelticPredator]

HOW DO I KEEL DES KEEEEDS!!11??? :lol

[SwedishHeat]

YouTube - &#x202a;A message from Dexter&#x202c;&rlm;

I guess this is supposed to imply that we're getting back to basics. No side-kicks or Mr. Mom issues to deal with

[MarfMaster]

I guess this is supposed to imply that we're getting back to basics. No side-kicks or Mr. Mom issues to deal with

Music to my ears :yess:

[CelticPredator]

AMAZING. I got chills.

[SwedishHeat]

Of course, it implies that they're getting back to basics, but with all the guest stars they've announced, I have a hard time believing that Dexter won't get into some zany hijinks with at least one of them.

Though it would be funny if Dex kills Colin Hanks in the premiere.

[Kal-El]

YouTube - &#x202a;A message from Dexter&#x202c;&rlm; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IXnlkgUwQ)

I guess this is supposed to imply that we're getting back to basics. No side-kicks or Mr. Mom issues to deal with

Awesome!!! :yess:

[Calcifer]

Of course, it implies that they're getting back to basics, but with all the guest stars they've announced, I have a hard time believing that Dexter won't get into some zany hijinks with at least one of them.


There will have to be a story arc with one of these characters and Dexter for sure ..but i don't think any of these characters will see the real Dex like lumen and Miguel did, that's what the trailer seem's to imply.

[cokebabies]

Of course, it implies that they're getting back to basics, but with all the guest stars they've announced, I have a hard time believing that Dexter won't get into some zany hijinks with at least one of them.

Probably true, but at the same time, if Dex is getting back to basics, that means lots of kills. And lots of guest actors needed to get killed. :yess:

[SwedishHeat]

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/22/dexter-season-6-scott-buck/#more-48498

The new guy in charge has been with the show since S2, but other than that, everybody else has left. So, hopefully this guy's been biding his time in the writer's room and has a lot of good ideas. He's saying he wants to get back to the Season 1 feel. It sounds a lot like a band that's put out 3 crappy CDs since their critically acclaimed debut saying "This is our most mature, raw and best record yet"

I got a chuckle when the guy talked about how Dexter and Rita were married for years. Hopefully, he just meant that they were together for years. The guy in charge should know they were married for a few months, tops.

Oh well, I hope this season is good. I have a sinking feeling they're wrapping this show up this season. Hopefully, the series finale is Deb finding out Dex's secret and walking into LaGuerta's office, "I need to talk to you", closes door, smash to black, roll credits.

And Monday morning, the Internet is PISSED!!! :lol

[ChaserFan]

Oh well, I hope this season is good. I have a sinking feeling they're wrapping this show up this season. Hopefully, the series finale is Deb finding out Dex's secret and walking into LaGuerta's office, "I need to talk to you", closes door, smash to black, roll credits.

Ewww, that's a terrible ending! :lol

[cokebabies]

Hopefully, the series opener is Dexter walking into LaGuerta's office, "I need to talk to you", closes door, stabs her, roll credits.

I just made everything better.

[OrangeLudovico]

Deb needs to find out eventually...

[SwedishHeat]

I just made everything better.

I was re-watching S1 the other day. Remember when LaGuerta had a crush on Dex?? And how that went nowhere, and it's never been referenced again.:lol

[cokebabies]

I was re-watching S1 the other day. Remember when LaGuerta had a crush on Dex?? And how that went nowhere, and it's never been referenced again.:lol

Funny timing, as I'm re-watching S1 now, and just got through one of those scenes. I think the audience can definitely put themselves in Dexters shoes there, being uncomfortable with those unwanted advances.

[ChaserFan]

Thank God (Dexter Season 6 Promo)

Thank God for Dexter :rock

[Calcifer]

Hmmmmmmmmm..

[Teddy Daniels]

That promo is absolutely awesome! Loved it!!!

[averagejo]

I love love love it!!!
I always resubscribe to showtime when it's Dexter time!! Lol

I'd also LOVE to see a Hot Toys Dex!! With the Slice of Life, too!!

[Calcifer]

I love love love it!!!
I always resubscribe to showtime when it's Dexter time!! Lol

I'd also LOVE to see a Hot Toys Dex!! With the Slice of Life, too!!

It would be awesome but tailoring wise it won't be a patch on kato's work.

[Dark Passenger]

It would be awesome but tailoring wise it won't be a patch on kato's work.

I just wish Kato would make the friggin green oversuit we see in this teaser. :mad:

[Mr. EcKo]

SEASON 6 TRAILER IS UP!!!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

&#x202a;Dexter Season 6 Trailer&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

[Devil_666]

Looks like Dexter kills Quinn. :lol

[averagejo]

Woo!!!! Hoooo!!!

He's my own personal Jesus!

[Calcifer]

So the bad guy's this season , Master and apprentice sort of deal?

[ShadowX81]

Do we really need another love interest for Dexter?

[Calcifer]

Do we really need another love interest for Dexter?

By the look of it she is just some horny _____ who is probably all over Dexter for that one scene, i can't see a proper love interest between him and this woman from what can be seen in the trailer.

[ChaserFan]

Wonder why it isn't starting until October 2...normally it starts a week or two earlier than that :(

Still, awesome trailer :rock

[averagejo]

By the look of it she is just some horny _____ who is probably all over Dexter for that one scene, i can't see a proper love interest between him and this woman from what can be seen in the trailer.

Yeah, I haven't been able to dissect the trailer yet, but I do agree, shes gotta be a skank. After Lumen, I don't think they'd give Dexter another love interest so soon... Maybe for 7??

[Mr. EcKo]

DEXTER PANTHER HEAD :horror F'IN SICK

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab191/mikeecko1980/DEXTERpantherHEAD.jpg

[averagejo]

All I can say is AWESOME!

[cokebabies]

Shame they had to use a ____ty cover version, but other that - awesome trailer.

[CelticPredator]

Amazing. I love Dexter time. Most intense part of the year!

[ShadowX81]

Yeah, I haven't been able to dissect the trailer yet, but I do agree, shes gotta be a skank. After Lumen, I don't think they'd give Dexter another love interest so soon... Maybe for 7??
True, but then again pretty much everyone thought that last year after Rita died. And back then it was really inappropriate but still happened.

[averagejo]

True, but then again pretty much everyone thought that last year after Rita died. And back then it was really inappropriate but still happened.

That's true. Dexter needs to get back to basics, and get his head straight. He doesn't need a love interest. He's going to focus on taking care of Harrison when he's not out and about "taking care of business."

[Mr. EcKo]

ii'm happy they used the same cute baby for Harrison again

[Mr. EcKo]

NEW GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or APP :yess:

&#x202a;Dexter Slice of Life Trailer&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

[Reinhardt]

Puts Xeno and Trevor's sculpt to shame!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/neehargupta/00092333-674152.jpg

[Mr. EcKo]

OMG that is horrible , i hope i win

[Devil_666]

Just looks like a happy garbageman. :lol

I mean "sanitation worker". Who knew garbagemen were sensitive?!

[Mr. EcKo]

Well it would be a good base body . We could ask KATO to make some clothes for it and Trevor to sculpt a new head .

Tom (Dark Passenger) has the 1:1 clothes so he's all set

[Reinhardt]

Well it would be a good base body . We could ask KATO to make some clothes for it and Trevor to sculpt a new head .


Like 3 grand later... :lol

[averagejo]

Hey the YouTube link isn't working, or is it my phone?

[Mr. EcKo]

Geeeez ya know what. Now that i think about it , i think thats why Tom (DP) is selling all his figures :horror, to fund this .:lol

[cokebabies]

Just looks like a happy garbageman. :lol

I mean "sanitation worker". Who knew garbagemen were sensitive?!

As cool as Dexter is, only one man is allowed to be associated with both garbage and killing.

&#x202a;Garbage Day! (high quality)&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

[averagejo]

&#x202a;Slice Of Life - Dexter&#39;s Game on Facebook&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

[Devil_666]

As cool as Dexter is, only one man is allowed to be associated with both garbage and killing.

Is that the guy from Gymkata!? :lol

[Mr. EcKo]

&#x202a;Slice Of Life - Dexter&#39;s Game on Facebook&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FELMnrj98o&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

I already posted this 9 posts up buddy :wave

[fawk3s]

Have a really good feeling about this season. Didnt like the last one very much.

[JGouse0498]

Have a really good feeling about this season. Didnt like the last one very much.

On its own, Season 5 was pretty good. It's just that it followed on the heels of Season 4, and there was no way it could compete with how awesome the Trinity Killer arc was!

[averagejo]

On its own, Season 5 was pretty good. It's just that it followed on the heels of Season 4, and there was no way it could compete with how awesome the Trinity Killer arc was!

Trinity killer season was the BEST, hands down.

[fawk3s]

Personally I think I liked the second season the best, probably because it was the most action packed and Dex himself had to dodge the cops. Second place would go to S1 for me.

[ShadowX81]

On its own, Season 5 was pretty good. It's just that it followed on the heels of Season 4, and there was no way it could compete with how awesome the Trinity Killer arc was!

No, it was awful becuase of a bland main story, too much focus on side characters' disconnected plotlines, zero followup on the storyline or consequences from the storyline of the previous season, plotlines that went nowhere, repeated use of cheap tactics for tension, easy and coincidental resolutions to episodes, and a forced love intrerest for Dexter inappropriately soon after Rita's death.

It didn't suck because it came after a great season. It sucked because it sucked.

[Calcifer]

No, it was awful becuase of a bland main story, too much focus on side characters' disconnected plotlines, zero followup on the storyline or consequences from the storyline of the previous season, plotlines that went nowhere, repeated use of cheap tactics for tension, easy and coincidental resolutions to episodes, and a forced love intrerest for Dexter inappropriately soon after Rita's death.

It didn't suck because it came after a great season. It sucked because it sucked.

I was reading trough most of this post thinking you were talking about season 4 and i was like "Whhhaaaaaaaaaaaattt???!" :rotfl

[DinoLast]

I am watching Season 5 again with the Wife, and I think it's much better the second time round. It's still the weakest season though, but I will take that over most of the crap that is on TV.

[Calcifer]

I am watching Season 5 again with the Wife, and I think it's much better the second time round. It's still the weakest season though, but I will take that over most of the crap that is on TV.

I found that with season 3, enjoyed it more the second time watching it.

For me i'd rate them in this order..

#1 Season 4
#2 Season 2
#3 Season 1
#4 Season 3
#5 Season 5

[cokebabies]

Season 5 had a lot not going for it, but I loved The Group, and thought Chase was a fantastic character. If we could have gotten more time for them and less for Batista and Laguerta's relationship, I'd have been thrilled.

Lumen's character grew on me, since her first few episodes were really making me question her point.

And the scene where Dexter beats on Astor's friend's mom's boyfriend (that's a lot of apostrophes) is one of my favorite scenes in the show's run. I don't know why. Maybe because we've seen so many bad guys get killed, and seeing one just get a good old fashioned beat down is so satisfying.

[averagejo]

....And the scene where Dexter beats on Astor's friend's mom's boyfriend (that's a lot of apostrophes) is one of my favorite scenes in the show's run. I don't know why. Maybe because we've seen so many bad guys get killed, and seeing one just get a good old fashioned beat down is so satisfying.

Agreed!! I love Dexter's "hands on" anatomy lesson! :wink1:

[Calcifer]

Agreed!! I love Dexter's "hands on" anatomy lesson! :wink1:

Yup pretty badass ..I always thought he would do something similar to Paul in Season 1 the first time i watched the show.

&#x202a;Dexter Morgan Beating up an Abusive Father&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

[averagejo]

^^ Haha..I love that! :yess:

[Morbach]

Yup pretty badass ..I always thought he would do something similar to Paul in Season 1 the first time i watched the show.

&#x202a;Dexter Morgan Beating up an Abusive Father&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1lC0UzclUE)

that was one of my favorite parts of last season :lol he whooped that dude's ***.

[Calcifer]

Any of you guys lucky enough to be at the Dexter panel at comic-con?

&#x202a;DEXTER PANEL at COMIC-CON 2011 Part 2&#x202c;&rlm; - YouTube

The guy who asked the first question ..what an idiot!:slap

[DARKSIDE COLLECTOR]

Dexter has dropped so far for me.I sold all my box sets after seeing season 5.What a piece of crap.So many loose ends.

[Calcifer]

Dexter has dropped so far for me.I sold all my box sets after seeing season 5.What a piece of crap.So many loose ends.

A bad season ..it happens!:dunno ..why just give up on the show?

[DARKSIDE COLLECTOR]

I will give season 6 a chance,but i'm not expecting much.

[Morbach]

I liked season 5 alot :lol Don't get the bad rep it's getting.