Dexter Discussion Thread *Spoilers*

[hairlesswookiee]

"Auto Erotic Mummification". *Fapping motion* :lol

Masuka is one funny bastard.

Yeah I had to rewind it and watch that scene again. It was also funny when he was holding his throat and gesturing masturbation.

He went off on that little tangent.

[DinoLast]

I also liked the look on Debra's face, like she's heard a lot of disgusting things from Masuka, but what he's telling her at this moment is on a whole new level of perversion

[die]

I hope things continue to get better from here on out, I think the first 5 episodes were so mediocre that they really need to have nonstop great episodes to finish off the season with.

I'm starting to like the Lumen character, wonder if she'll end up as the babysitter? I think I remember an article somewhere way before the season opener where it was said that she'd be the babysitter. Seems like that's the setup.

[CelticPredator]

Did you see the blood on her hair end up on the side of her cheek.....like a cut...:o

Might be reading too much into it...but..who knows. :D

[die]

Ahhh, very cool, Celtic! I saw it, but didn't even register that. Good eye!

[DinoLast]

Another good episode, but it's still looking like the weakest season yet.
The preview for next week looks like the pace is going to speed up again. Interesting move to make Weller's character a blackmailer.

[CelticPredator]

"DEXTER MORGAN...DEAD OR ALIVE, YOU ARE COMING WITH ME..."


lol...:lol

[Dark Passenger]

I like where Weller's character is going. It could get very interesting.

I'm not liking where Dexter and Lumen are going. It looks like there is going to be a love interest. It's like Rita never even existed after the first few episodes. Astor and Cody... how about a visit or something?

LaGuerta is such a... I smell divorce. Angel is better off. We should have never let women vote.

[CelticPredator]

I didnt realize Dexter fans were sexist....:lol

Anyway, I dont think it'll end up being a love thingy..it's too stupid.

[DinoLast]

After every episode on Season 4 this thread had a ton of posts of people speculating what is going to happen next. The fact that this season seems to be sparking little interest speaks volumes. It's a shame, as I still think the show is one of the best on TV even when it's not running at full throttle, like it seems to be at the moment

[CelticPredator]

Season 4 was a tad like this. Better of course, but it still kept a slow pace up until the last 4 episodes. Then everything kicked into high gear and just elevated the show's potential so high, that honestly, they couldnt top it.

[SwedishHeat]

I'm not liking where Dexter and Lumen are going. It looks like there is going to be a love interest. It's like Rita never even existed after the first few episodes. Astor and Cody... how about a visit or something?

Personally, I don't think we should wallow in the grief of Rita's death for too long. If seasons of Dexter were 22 episodes long, then we might be able to spend some time on how Dexter deals with grief, considering he feels no emotions. But, we're already more than halfway through the season, I think 3 episodes is enough to deal with ending that chapter of his life.

I'm sure they wrote Astor and Cody out of the storyline because the actors were aging faster than the storyline progressing and honestly, kids always make a show worse. Do we REALLY want to see how Dexter manages 3 kids, a day job and his serial killer night life?? Sorry, I thought this show was about a serial killer who works in the crime lab. One of the themes of last season was Dexter wearing too many hats. . . this season they're correcting that.

[CelticPredator]

No, the show is about a serial killer, and the lives affected by him.

[die]

The discussion of "what Dexter is about" always ends with alot of different opinions, that's something i've noticed from the start.

I've always thought it was about a man who thinks he is not human realizing just how human he really is. It seems like that along the way viewers who are for the death penalty and people who are against the death penalty find themselves identifying with Dexter in some way and cheering him on , only to later realize the perils of vigilante justice and feel pity for him. I've always thought that's what makes the show smart.

I still swear that Peter Weller has based his character completely off of Clarence Boddiker from Robocop. He looks like him, talks like him and he's pretty much the same exact vintage sleazy character. I love it.

I'm just wondering if Lumen will bond with Harrison and end up taking the place of the babysitter eventually.

[Bustajesse]

I am really digging this season.

Robocop is making me nervous. I wonder how much he actually knows about Dexter. He is in the background floating around and you are never really quite sure when he is watching Dex.

I also wonder how Deb is going to handle killing that dude in the long run. I know there is a preview of it on youtube for next week but I don't want to spoil it for anyone who has not seen it yet.

[CelticPredator]

Die, I would say that's another good description of the show. But I do think the characters are important to the story. And they all effect, or are affected by Dexter in some way.

[Dark Passenger]

I am really digging this season.

Robocop is making me nervous. I wonder how much he actually knows about Dexter. He is in the background floating around and you are never really quite sure when he is watching Dex.

I also wonder how Deb is going to handle killing that dude in the long run. I know there is a preview of it on youtube for next week but I don't want to spoil it for anyone who has not seen it yet.

I know!! I was so nervous when he went into Cole's house. I was thinking Weller was there watching him and Lumen go into the house and then rush out. It's like an invisible Doakes watching his every move!!

[Dark Passenger]

I am liking where this season is going. I loved every season, even 3. (Lastly though). The show would be so boring if every season was Dexter chasing another Serial Killer. I think that's why they killed Boyd so fast. I really thought he would have hung around for another few episodes.
This seasons story arc is growing on me. I just hope that Lumen lives. Every character who meets the Dark Passenger dies in the end. We'll see what happens to Quinn and Liddy (Weller).

[Dark Passenger]

Personally, I don't think we should wallow in the grief of Rita's death for too long. If seasons of Dexter were 22 episodes long, then we might be able to spend some time on how Dexter deals with grief, considering he feels no emotions. But, we're already more than halfway through the season, I think 3 episodes is enough to deal with ending that chapter of his life.

I'm sure they wrote Astor and Cody out of the storyline because the actors were aging faster than the storyline progressing and honestly, kids always make a show worse. Do we REALLY want to see how Dexter manages 3 kids, a day job and his serial killer night life?? Sorry, I thought this show was about a serial killer who works in the crime lab. One of the themes of last season was Dexter wearing too many hats. . . this season they're correcting that.


After reading your post you're 100% right. 3 Episodes is enough. Glad I don't have a job writing for Showtime. :lol

[die]

Die, I would say that's another good description of the show. But I do think the characters are important to the story. And they all effect, or are affected by Dexter in some way.

I agree the characters are important to the story, they are the stepping stones to him realizing how human he is. Alot of people just think Dexter is about the killing, many still think that he never actually cared for Rita, that she was always just a "front" like he had intended for her to be from the start. I say he really cared for her, He really wanted to have Brian as his brother and he really wanted Miguel as his friend.

[CelticPredator]

I think he likes the idea of Lumin being his right hand lady...but just knows it'll end in disaster. But still hopes it wont.

[Seditionary]

I think he sees the potential of connecting with her on a level that he's never connected with anyone before. He went as far with Rita as he could without telling her the truth about what he is. Everyone who has seen him as a killer didn't fully understand him...miguel or liela/lola/whateverherfriggennamewas... they just kind of attached themselves to their idea of who and what he was. also no one witnesses his true nature without becoming a victim to it in some way.

lumen is sorta like rita in the way that she is damaged. and shes sort of like dexter as she is becoming filled with the need to eliminate evil.

Also, I think the code has changed...he broke the dentists' neck without thinking back on it. but he was just a rapist...not the "finisher." He's more concerned with helping her then he is with fulfilling his needs and he doesn't seem to be thinking about anything but that.

[cokebabies]

Exactly, Lila and Miguel almost saw who Dexter is, but it was still their skewed view on it. Lumen has come the closest to seeing the total picture without (as far as we know) putting her own bizarre personal spin on what he is.

I'm also glad they've shifted a lot of Dexter's family life away, to avoid it becoming Mr. Mom with killings. But I think they've actually done that TOO much. Almost all of Dexter's family side is now just coming home to relieve the babysitter, pick up Harrison, and that's it.

[Seditionary]

My guess is that things might start to bloom with lumen and astor and cody might come back.

I dont really think lumen as a love interest is that horrible of a thing. I don't think he sees her as a replacement...no one could be and he knows that. Maybe it took a horrible tragedy for both of them to find someone that understands them. maybe dexter will catch a break.

[cokebabies]

I haven't liked Lumen much of a character so far. Her character has led to a pretty decent storyline, but the character itself hasn't grabbed me.

I'm wondering if between Lumen, Quinn, and Quinn's PI, if one of those won't be alive at the end of the season.

[die]

I think the characters from Season to Season are intended to build upon failed relationships that ultimately lead Dexter to self-discovery.

-Debra is his sister and he cares about what she thinks of him, but he can not be honest with her because of that fact. He had Brian come back into his life and he wanted to bond with but couldn't once he saw how clearly the code divided them. Then, he had Miguel who he deperately wanted to fill that role. They got closer to what Dexter wanted from a sibling than he could with Brian but they were both lying to each other and ultimately suffered the same fate as Brian.

-During last season, near the end where Dexter and Rita had that conversation in the car, I think that was the first real step to Dexter feeling at ease with Rita and the possibility of her eventually accepting who he really is. Of course things ended for Rita before that could happen and now we have Lumen, who is damaged just like Rita was, but she knows he kills. I think this is why he is so open at revealing himself to her, because it's almost like closure for his issues with Rita.

-Now we have Quinn, who's basically taking over where Doakes left off. He suspects Dexter and is hot on his trail, but the difference here is that emotions are involved due to his relationship with Debra. Also, we see Quinn doing some shady/illegal things....the real question is, with all the things involved, if Quinn found out who Dexter really was, would he turn him in? Would Quinn see the vigilante justice as needed and turn a blind eye? would he be a "good cop" afterall and take Dexter down/arrest him? or would it be his greed and ego that takes over and he try to blackmail Dexter or simply look at busting Dexter as a way to further his career ?

[fawk3s]

Brian did clearly violate the code-world of Dexter, but they bonded rather quickly and cared for one another. We even saw Dexter cry for the first time when he had to kill his brother. Man, I wish he could have lived :(

[Seditionary]

Brian did clearly violate the code-world of Dexter, but they bonded rather quickly and cared for one another. We even saw Dexter cry for the first time when he had to kill his brother. Man, I wish he could have lived :(

my favorite scene is when brian comes out of the water and grabs dexters hand. It might be the first episode of season 2. When dexter is letting go of brian's loss.

That is such a well done scene...its like friday the 13th or something. haha

I also love that he wasn't a trophy to keep.

I feel like the atmosphere of the new season is dexter is sort of losing his desire to collect trophies of his victims. maybe the killing is evolving into something different from a ritual.

[mattman6886]

So tonight's episode was my favorite so far this season! Every season finds a way, around 2/3 of the way in, to start intensifying things to a point where you almost can't take it, and this one's no exception!

[averagejo]

I have a weird feeling about Lumen. Something doesn't feel right. I mean, it's great that Dexter has finally found someone he can trust with his secret, but I think she isn't who he thinks she is, and that she may end up on his table somewhere down the line. That's just my useless opinion. :D.

[CelticPredator]

I hope Dexter doesnt end up on her table....:(

[shanghei]

i think quinn is gonna be the one to put an end to robocop

[Dark Passenger]

I think Lumen is fine. She is damaged just like Dexter. The scene with her looking at Cole's Blood Slide, and then a cut to Owen leaving, I think symbolizes the new her. Killing all these men will fill that emptiness and make her whole again.

I don't think Dexter is falling in love, neither is Lumen. I think it's more about Dexter finally finding a good partner. He never had one, just hopefuls.

Great episode, I was on the edge of my seat! And the ending... I can't wait until next week.

[Bustajesse]

I love the idea of Dexter having a friend, not necessarily someone to help him out, but someone who truly knows who he is, and understands him without judging him. I hope they keep Lumen around and let her live.

[ChaserFan]

I particularly liked the scene with Deb telling Dex that she didn't feel anything after killing that guy. And how she asked Dex whether he believed some people deserved to die...it really felt like that was a pivotal point in the show, and the set-up for an eventual (S6/7) confession.

[die]

Yeah, this was definitely a good episode. Really liked the conversation between Dexter and Debra. I'm enjoying Peter Weller's character very much and the tension at the hotel was great. Nice to see the sadistic side of Dexter back. Nice cliffhanger too!

I'm just worried that the show has kinda painted itself in the corner with "special guests", it seems like they always have to turn out bad and die :cuckoo:

I'm kinda feeling like they'll "have" to kill off Lumen. I'm hoping that they can do something totally different with her character. I'd hate to see another Lila or Miguel ending to her part.

[averagejo]

Apologies for my forgetfulness, but didn't TRINITY have a another daughter ?? (other than the Jonah's sis, and the reporter daughter who killed Lundy)
The wild speculation that was flying around my house last night was that maybe LUMEN was TRINITY'S daughter and she (Lumen) killed Rita.

[ChaserFan]

Apologies for my forgetfulness, but didn't TRINITY have a another daughter ?? (other than the Jonah's sis, and the reporter daughter who killed Lundy)

Nah, only two daughters...that we are aware of at least.

[averagejo]

I told you it was "wild speculation!" lol

[die]

This show is notorious for Red Herrings and wild goose chases, so there's no telling. I wonder if Trinity's son has anything else to do with this season? You just never know.

[cokebabies]

i think quinn is gonna be the one to put an end to robocop

Yeah, between Quinn obviously getting fed up with Robocop, and the fact that I highly doubt Robocop's knowledge of Dexter / Lumen's trash disposal will last until the end of the season, Robocop is a goner. It's just a question of whether Quinn or Dexter does it.

And I can't wait for Zero Cool to end up on the table.

[ShadowX81]

Why isnt Quinn telling anyone about the "Kyle Butler" thing? The fact that Dexter was spending a large amount of time with a serial killer while using a pseudonym raises some very big questions and severe implications.

[Kamandi]

From the trailer for next week it looks like Quinn gets to see the pictures on Murphy's camera. I think Quinn is officially putting on his red shirt.

My other prediction is Lumen disappears with Dexter's son. Maybe next season Dexter has to go to Ireland to get him back... oh wait.

[316what]

Why isnt Quinn telling anyone about the "Kyle Butler" thing? The fact that Dexter was spending a large amount of time with a serial killer while using a pseudonym raises some very big questions and severe implications.

He tried to tell LaGuerta but she jumped his ____ about it and told him it was now a federal investigation and to drop it.

[316what]

My other prediction is Lumen disappears with Dexter's son. Maybe next season Dexter has to go to Ireland to get him back... oh wait.

But first, Dexter has to kill Lumen's brother during a home invasion.:hi5:

[ShadowX81]

He tried to tell LaGuerta but she jumped his ____ about it and told him it was now a federal investigation and to drop it.

She told him to drop doing investigation on his own. If he had told the federal investigator about it and let them handle it, no doubt it would be something that they would persue.

[Kamandi]

LaGuerta had a nasty side during the first and even the second season. Now that's she's betrayed Deb I think she's reverting to old form. I'd like to see Batista take over the dept.

[die]

Yeah, between Quinn obviously getting fed up with Robocop, and the fact that I highly doubt Robocop's knowledge of Dexter / Lumen's trash disposal will last until the end of the season, Robocop is a goner. It's just a question of whether Quinn or Dexter does it.



or Debra!

or maybe Debra ends up saving Dexter from Quinn at the end of the Season? That would make sense, she killed somebody she cared nothing about so she felt nothing, what if she was forced to choose between 2 people she cares for?

[Dark Passenger]

What did Cole say to Dexter before he died? It's driving me nuts. I can't understand him.

[316what]

What did Cole say to Dexter before he died? It's driving me nuts. I can't understand him.

Something similar to Tom, ____ and Harry....I can't recall the exact phrase though.

[cokebabies]

Huey, Dewey, and Louie.

or Debra!

or maybe Debra ends up saving Dexter from Quinn at the end of the Season? That would make sense, she killed somebody she cared nothing about so she felt nothing, what if she was forced to choose between 2 people she cares for?

That's true. Maybe her conversation with Dexter about people deserving to die (or deserving to "not live") is further opening up that avenue.

[Dark Passenger]

Huey, Dewey, and Louie.



That's true. Maybe her conversation with Dexter about people deserving to die (or deserving to "not live") is further opening up that avenue.

Thanks, not a big deal but was making me nuts.

[DinoLast]

This show is notorious for Red Herrings and wild goose chases, so there's no telling. I wonder if Trinity's son has anything else to do with this season? You just never know.

Yeah, I wonder if 'Tick Tick' has been put in there to throw us off. It could turn out Johnny Lee Miller is innocent and somebody else used his catchphrase. He is also not in the photograph

[hairlesswookiee]

LaGuerta had a nasty side during the first and even the second season. Now that's she's betrayed Deb I think she's reverting to old form. I'd like to see Batista take over the dept.

Me too. I hope Batista cracks the whip and puts her in her place.

[shanghei]

Something similar to Tom, ____ and Harry....I can't recall the exact phrase though.

Huey, Dewey, and Louie, the kids from duck tales

[CelticPredator]

Am I the only one who thinks Quinn wont go after Dexter? Dispite the evidence? I think he's changing. :panic:

[Devil_666]

Am I the only one who thinks Quinn wont go after Dexter? Dispite the evidence? I think he's changing. :panic:

I'm getting that impression too. And I think it's because he knows hurting Dexter will hurt Deb as well.

[CelticPredator]

That would be the right path to go. We all loved Doakes...but having another one would be boring.

[ShadowX81]

Well that would sure as hell be a letdown.

I got the impression from the trailers that this season would be very intense and about Dexter dealing with Rita's death while the cops actually started getting suspicious of Dexter. Instead all of that seemed to blow over after episode one, and Quinn's supicions are a distant fourth to boring as hell police politics, the love lives of two characters that have no reason to be on the show anymore, and Dexter's insane new girlfriend.

[CelticPredator]

That's what a GOOD trailer does. It gives you a taste, and suprises you.

If you dont like the characters in the show, then why are you watching it? It was never about Dexter, and only Dexter. Even from the VERY first episode. You had about 3 interlocking stories....IN THE FIRST EPISODE that had nothing to do with Dexter. So how this suprises you is silly.

[ShadowX81]

That's what a GOOD trailer does. It gives you a taste, and suprises you.
No, actually almost everyone considers a misleading trailer to be a bad one. People complain about them all the time.
Especially when what you end up with is not only completely different, but worse than what you were promised.

If you dont like the characters in the show, then why are you watching it? It was never about Dexter, and only Dexter. Even from the VERY first episode. You had about 3 interlocking stories....IN THE FIRST EPISODE that had nothing to do with Dexter. So how this suprises you is silly.
Uh, yes it was. It was intially only about Dexter, and Dexter alone. Its really only this season (and the subpar season 3) that things deviated and other characters' storylines did not interact.

This show is about Dexter. Not about cops and thier love lives, not about police politics, its about Dexter. A serial killer who just happens to work at a police station.
Obviously a show needs more than one character and outside side stories are important to develop those characters, but that development only serves to give meaning to characters with roles to play in the main storyline.

The problem is that Angel and Laguerta really have no reason to be on this show anymore. They serve zero function in the main storyline at all, and thier little romance plotline may as well be a seperate spinoff show. Thier relevance to the main plotline is comparable to Matthews at best; whoich is a character they chose early in the show's not to really develop because of his overall irrelevance to the plot.

[CelticPredator]

Bull. Watch the first episode again.

We set up Deb's need to get into Homicide, LaGuarta's reputation, and Doakes' problems with Dexter.

The show has been about the characters from day one.

[ShadowX81]

Exactly, and every one of these were minor and short lasting subplots used to characterize them so we care about them when they come to play a part in the real (and by far dominant) storyline.

-Laguerta manages the Ice Truck Killer Case
-Debra ends up becoming engaged to Brian
-Doakes also works on the Ice Truck Killer case while also being suspicious of Dexter, making it harder for him to carry on his activities.

The only character with no development (Matthews) received none becuase he had no role to play.

In the end, they all existed to play an important part in the season plotline. It is only recently that they got away from that and just had these completly seperate and barely connected storylines taking large chunks of time.

[CelticPredator]

That's a good point....but still. The show isnt all about Dexter. It never was, and never will be. That would be kindof boring if it was just Dexter killing people the same way for an hour....I like the extra stuff. I enjoy each character.

[Dark Passenger]

Yeah, I wonder if 'Tick Tick' has been put in there to throw us off. It could turn out Johnny Lee Miller is innocent and somebody else used his catchphrase. He is also not in the photograph

If anything he knows what was going on because when Cole crashed and Boyd was fingered Chase said, "You finally did something right this time, pinning it on Boyd." He's definitely not clean.

Am I the only one who thinks Quinn wont go after Dexter? Dispite the evidence? I think he's changing. :panic:

I agree! It seems like the previews for next week show Quinn telling Liddy to back off even after seeing pics of them on the boat together. Maybe after Quinn & Deb being screwed by Laguerta, Quinn will just look the other way.




I want to know who's in the house next week? Maybe it'll turn out to be Astor and Cody or the Grandparents. Maybe Elliot. :dunno

[316what]

The problem is that Angel and Laguerta really have no reason to be on this show anymore. They serve zero function in the main storyline at all, and thier little romance plotline may as well be a seperate spinoff show. Thier relevance to the main plotline is comparable to Matthews at best; whoich is a character they chose early in the show's not to really develop because of his overall irrelevance to the plot.

WRONG.....Angel/LaGuerta are important. They are Dexter's alibi.

[die]

I'm also wondering if it'll be Astor and Cody going into the house next week, weren't they going back to the house earlier in the season? Possibly, missing their home? it makes sense.

Maybe Dexter will explain Lumen to the kids as being Harrison's baby sitter?

[ShadowX81]

WRONG.....Angel/LaGuerta are important. They are Dexter's alibi.

Im not quite sure I know what you mean.

[El Skutto]

Im not quite sure I know what you mean.

When Rita was being murdered by Trinity, Dexter was acting as witness to Angel and LaGuerta's wedding. Since he can't be in two places at once, he couldn't have murdered Rita.

[ChaserFan]

When Rita was being murdered by Trinity, Dexter was acting as witness to Angel and LaGuerta's wedding. Since he can't be in two places at once, he couldn't have murdered Rita.

Dexter was actually at Arthur's house when Rita was being killed...

[ShadowX81]

When Rita was being murdered by Trinity, Dexter was acting as witness to Angel and LaGuerta's wedding. Since he can't be in two places at once, he couldn't have murdered Rita.
The point still remains that they arent really serving any purpose on the show anymore besides thier own completly disconnected storyline.

The alibi part is a one second thing that is long since over. I don't think that the cops are even suspicious of Dexter anymore.

[die]

I think the part about Dexter being suspected was just to add fuel to the fire of Quinn suspecting Dexter of "something" much like Doakes always did. It seems like he really just started out wanting to get something on Dexter since Dexter saw him taking money and blew Quinn off when he tried to talk to him.

I see the characters fitting together in the big picture though, it just seems like the writers are maybe doing it in less revealing ways right now. Maria sent Quinn and now Deb on leave, pissed Robocop off and looks to have Batista about to turn on her. It'd be easy to overlook Masuka, but he did a nice job of getting Dexter off the hook with his "deductions" on the double-homocide at the warehouse. Again, it goes back to how the show has always worked, alot of it is intended to make you speculate. Remember Yuki, who was investigating Quinn? Alot of people thought she was The Skinner in Season 3. You just never know which characters will be most important to the big picture. Remember how important Batista getting stabbed was in Season 1 to the discovery of the Ice Truck Killer?

[Kamandi]

I think the part about Dexter being suspected was just to add fuel to the fire of Quinn suspecting Dexter of "something" much like Doakes always did. It seems like he really just started out wanting to get something on Dexter since Dexter saw him taking money and blew Quinn off when he tried to talk to him.


Exactly. I think Quinn's primary motivation is to hold something over Dex.

The irony is anything Quinn and Murphy find on Dexter would probably be disallowed in court. No warrants and the chain of custody is compromised.


It'd be easy to overlook Masuka, but he did a nice job of getting Dexter off the hook with his "deductions" on the double-homocide at the warehouse.
...

Remember Yuki, who was investigating Quinn?

Masuka's pantomime during Dexter's voiceover was the funniest thing this season.

The Yuki storyline was a dumb waste of time. Cute actress though.

[die]

The Yuki storyline was a dumb waste of time. Cute actress though.

I guess it kinda worked in a sense that it helped to draw some question to Quinn and it threw so many people off, but I do agree, in the end I really hated that part of the season.

She was definitely cute, though!

[CelticPredator]

HOLY ____. All bets are off. Best episode of the season.

"Tick Tick Tick....your time is running out....goodbye Lumin"

:thud:

So much stuff! I got chills!

[Dark Passenger]

Oh man is this season really picking up. I can't wait to see what happens between Quinn, Deb, Dexter, and Liddy.
Looks like Deb is going to be onto Dexter judging by the scenes from next week, with Lumen appearing in the tapes. Can't believe Liddy is bugging the next Kill Room. The scenes for next week were almost better than today's episode.

[Dark Passenger]

HOLY ____. All bets are off. Best episode of the season.

"Tick Tick Tick....your time is running out....goodbye Lumin"

:thud:

So much stuff! I got chills!

I was so excited too man, you just beat me!! :panic:

[CelticPredator]

Ahh! Put the coming attractions in a spoiler tags. I refuse to watch them from here on out.

[Dark Passenger]

Ahh! Put the coming attractions in a spoiler tags. I refuse to watch them from here on out.

:(Oops, didn't think of that. Sorry man.

[CelticPredator]

No worries. :lol

Same with Hungry Man, I wanted PURE suprise.

[mattman6886]

Ok that was probably one of, if not THE best episode of Dexter ever!

And Dexter didn't even kill anybody! Sure he beat the crap out of someone, but still!

Who's with me?

[Kamandi]

Next week's preview

Murphy watching Lumen and Dex practicing the kill on video.

Holy 5h!t!!!

[ShadowX81]

Good episode, but I just find it stupid that Quinn would completly drop his investigation of Dexter even as the evidence starts to pile up, simply because he has a crush on his sister.

[CelticPredator]

I think it's great. Making Quinn Doakes 2 would've been a horrible mistake.

[ShadowX81]

Doesn't mean it isn't stupid for a cop like Quinn to simply start ignoring some pretty damn conclusive evidence after he spent the entire first half of the season being suspicious.

[CelticPredator]

How is it not? Have you ever backed off something because you loved or liked a person that it could affect?

[ShadowX81]

Umm I think its pretty different when you are a cop and it can be considered a crime in itself for you to not pursue it. Especially when Liddy is presenting him with evidence possibly linking him to murders.
Its negligence at best, without a doubt unethical conduct, and aiding and abiding at worst.

I love my girlfriend too, but if I had evidence linking someone she loved to murder I sure as hell wouldn't just ignore it and act like everything was OK. And I'm not even a cop.

[CelticPredator]

But his theory didnt pan out. He couldnt get the evidence....

It's obvious Dexter didnt kill Rita. And because of what the Mitchell's said, it wasnt Dexter.

Plus, he was losing his job over this. And not to mention a ____ ton of money for hireing Liddy.

[ShadowX81]

Not only did Quinn more or less find out that Dexter was Kyle Butler (a lead he should have told someone about) but Liddy pretty much told him today that Dexter and Lumen were dumping a body in the ocean.

Regardless if Dexter killed Rita or not, Quinn has more than enough evidence linking Dexter to something clearly illegal; and its baffeling to see him simply ignore it; especially after he persued it so heavily.

[CelticPredator]

Could it be...I dont know, that Liddy is becoming a problem, and he would rather he go away? Or possibly that he...*gasp* really doesnt want to hurt Debra....he's not a perfect cop. He, on more than one occasion, has done something illegal.

I think we're watching totally different shows here.

[keysta75]

After last nights episode...I believe that I'm going to let the remaining eps build up for me so I can just all three in one shot. It will be hard(pray for me)but I will try.:impatient:

[316what]

Umm I think its pretty different when you are a cop and it can be considered a crime in itself for you to not pursue it. Especially when Liddy is presenting him with evidence possibly linking him to murders.
Its negligence at best, without a doubt unethical conduct, and aiding and abiding at worst.

Quinn's little investigation is illegal. No evidence from Liddy would ever be admissable in any court. If it ever comes out that Quinn hired a suspended cop to run his little side investigation into Dexter, then Quinn will be fired.

Not only did Quinn more or less find out that Dexter was Kyle Butler (a lead he should have told someone about) but Liddy pretty much told him today that Dexter and Lumen were dumping a body in the ocean.

Liddy said drugs or a body....neither he or Quinn know what was being dropped. It was just an educated guess on Liddy's part.

Regardless if Dexter killed Rita or not, Quinn has more than enough evidence linking Dexter to something clearly illegal; and its baffeling to see him simply ignore it; especially after he persued it so heavily.

The only thing that Quinn has evidence of is illegal dumping in the bay.

[Kamandi]

My only gripe is it appears Robo took the pictures with a telephoto lens, which means Dex isn't taking his boat out to the ocean currents for dumping. After his problems in season 2 I wouldn't see him forgetting that lesson.

[die]

Umm I think its pretty different when you are a cop and it can be considered a crime in itself for you to not pursue it. Especially when Liddy is presenting him with evidence possibly linking him to murders.
Its negligence at best, without a doubt unethical conduct, and aiding and abiding at worst.

I love my girlfriend too, but if I had evidence linking someone she loved to murder I sure as hell wouldn't just ignore it and act like everything was OK. And I'm not even a cop.

We can't forget the fact that Quinn is not exactly an "honest" cop. He was being investigated by I.A. and he steals money from crime scenes, remember? His whole reason for going after Dexter was simply to get something on him since he saw Quinn taking money.

My only gripe is it appears Robo took the pictures with a telephoto lens, which means Dex isn't taking his boat out to the ocean currents for dumping. After his problems in season 2 I wouldn't see him forgetting that lesson.

Judging from the dialogue from last night, that part is well explained. Robocop says "whatever it was they loaded onto that boat, they didn't come back with any of it", which implies he didn't get actual footage of them dumping the stuff, but the footage was shot on the dock while they were loading it.

Last night was an all around great show, I really enjoyed it. I thought the part with Astor was really well done, I was surprised to hear Dexter tell her he loved her.

and the part with Jordan Chase at the end!? Yeah...It looks like non-stop intensity from here on out!

[SwedishHeat]

Not only did Quinn more or less find out that Dexter was Kyle Butler (a lead he should have told someone about) but Liddy pretty much told him today that Dexter and Lumen were dumping a body in the ocean.

Regardless if Dexter killed Rita or not, Quinn has more than enough evidence linking Dexter to something clearly illegal; and its baffeling to see him simply ignore it; especially after he persued it so heavily.

Why do you continue to watch?

[Dark Passenger]

I think Quinn realized he created a monster with Liddy. It seems to be a combination of his love for Debra and realizing Liddy is taking it too far.

And Quinn didn't know Dexter was Kyle Butler. It was only a hunch.

[ShadowX81]

Hes not letting Dexter go on some parking tickets or a marijuana posession charge, hes allowing a major criminal to just go free (most likely a murderer) becuase of a girl.

Even if he doesn't want to hurt Deb, and Liddy is becoming a problem, he has to do something about this.

Thats unethical on about 100 different levels, morally sickening, and not to mention highly illegal. Quinn may be a bit dirty, but he isnt evil.

[316what]

Hes not letting Dexter go on some parking tickets or a marijuana posession charge, hes allowing a major criminal to just go free (most likely a murderer) becuase of a girl.

Even if he doesn't want to hurt Deb, and Liddy is becoming a problem, he has to do something about this.

Thats unethical on about 100 different levels, morally sickening, and not to mention highly illegal. Quinn may be a bit dirty, but he isnt evil.

Quinn has no evidence that Dexter is a major criminal as you call it. He just thinks the combination of 3 sketches of Kyle Butler looks like Dexter. Add that to Dexter's odd behavior (as Quinn sees it) and those are the grounds for Quinn's suspicions. He hired Liddy to see if there was any dirt on Dexter. To date, the only thing criminal he has found is Dexter's illegal dumping of something in black bags in the marina.

There's nothing unethical about him wishing to end the "illegal" investigation.

[die]

Hes not letting Dexter go on some parking tickets or a marijuana posession charge, hes allowing a major criminal to just go free (most likely a murderer) becuase of a girl.

Even if he doesn't want to hurt Deb, and Liddy is becoming a problem, he has to do something about this.

Thats unethical on about 100 different levels, morally sickening, and not to mention highly illegal. Quinn may be a bit dirty, but he isnt evil.


Does he actually think Dexter is a killer, though? Maybe, he got a bit suspicious after Rita's death, maybe not that Dexter actually did it, but that Dexter's actions could've played a role in her death. He started out going after Dexter for his own personal reasons in the first place, so it's possible that once the Kyle Butler idea didn't pan out, he might decide he's taking things to far....especially with his feelings for Debra and wanting to keep her safe from Robocop. It makes sense to me, and I think it's become a decent story arc, I mean I'm very interested in seeing what happens with them.

I just came across this old photo and it tripped me out...Quinn is really looking cracked-out these days:

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BODc1NjM3MjczN15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDE0NjkxMg@@._ V1._SX500_SY333_.jpg

[die]

About the black bags...

Robocop says "or a body" rather jokingly as he doesn't believe it's actually a body. Quinn didn't seem to take it seriously either, sounds like neither of them really think it's actually a body yet.

[DinoLast]

Did you see the preview for the next week?
The ____ is seriously hitting the fan

[Dark Passenger]

Did you see the preview for the next week?
The ____ is seriously hitting the fan

Oh man!!! This is going to be insane. Can't wait to see. Sad there's only 3 episodes left.

[die]

Agreed, it does look to get intense... I'm nervous about the ending, too. It's funny because Season 3 had such a weak ending at the time, but when you look at the series as a whole, it's very chilling now. It also made the ending for season 4 that much more epic.

I'm definitely interested in seeing what they do with this season's final episode.

[Dark Passenger]

Agreed, it does look to get intense... I'm nervous about the ending, too. It's funny because Season 3 had such a weak ending at the time, but when you look at the series as a whole, it's very chilling now. It also made the ending for season 4 that much more epic.

I'm definitely interested in seeing what they do with this season's final episode.

I have a gut feeling Debra is going to find out about Dexter's Dark Passenger at the end of this season. I also think she is going to figure out who Lumen really is based on the locks of hair in Boyd's Book. (Unless Dexter took that lock, which I missed).

[barryo]

this season looks to be setting up the ending of the series....maybe next season will be the last???.......but damn does it look like it's going to go out with a bang.

[Dark Passenger]

Maybe it is the last and they're keeping it a secret? Maybe not because it isn't that good of a marketing move.
Rule #1 is: Don't get caught. He has been pretty careless this season compared to others.

[DinoDB1975]

Finally watched this episode earlier this morning. Best episode of this season yet, IMO. Dexter has always been one of my favorite shows, but this season has been a little underwhelming thus far, though it seems to be picking up steam. Not to mention that Sundays are packed with great shows (Boardwalk Empire, The Walking Dead, and the just ended Luther) and an NFL game, so Dexter has been relegated to the back seat for me. I think the show this season will come more in line with the books, and set up next season as the possible last season.

I also thought that when Deb was assigned to the file room, she'd find out from the file clerk that Dexter has been pulling and reading old case files. Might still happen.

[Seditionary]

This episode was very strong because of how they are tying everything together. This might be one of the most coherently together seasons yet. I'm really liking it.

[Dark Passenger]

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is getting good. Only 2 episodes left.

The end had me on the edge of my seat when Quinn and Debra were going to Alex's house!!!! This is shaping up to be a hell of a season.

[CelticPredator]

Hmm....I dont know if I like that they ____ed. Dont know at all.

[Dark Passenger]

Hmm....I dont know if I like that they ____ed. Dont know at all.

Y'know, I feel the same way. I'm a little confused as to how I feel about that.

[mattman6886]

I get why they did it, because of how connected they've become and all. Dexter feels he can actually be himself with a woman and not have to hide who he really is.

Great episode! I don't know how this Robocop errrr.... I mean Liddy situation is going to get resolved. Can't wait til next week!

[Dark Passenger]

^Yeah, I'm not sure how he's going to get out of this. I can't see Liddy making it to season 6. Maybe Quinn will kill him in rage?
I'd like to see Lumen live to the end though and get to season 6. There has to be someone who can do it.

[Kamandi]

I'm confused.

Deb and Quinn open the door and you're expecting to see Dexter and Lumen. Then they flash to another house I didn't recognize. Where did they take out Alex?

[mattman6886]

I'm confused.

Deb and Quinn open the door and you're expecting to see Dexter and Lumen. Then they flash to another house I didn't recognize. Where did they take out Alex?

After it shows that they were'nt behind the door, they cut to outside and pan over to the house next door with all the lights off. That's where they killed him, but I'm not sure how they knew nobody would be home. EDIT: The house had a for sale sign out front. :)

[316what]

After it shows that they were'nt behind the door, they cut to outside and pan over to the house next door with all the lights off. That's where they killed him, but I'm not sure how they knew nobody would be home. EDIT: The house had a for sale sign out front. :)

The house had a For Sale sign in the front yard.

[Dark Passenger]

The part that confused me was the conversation between Emily Birch and Jordan. Did Jordan tell Emily what to say to Lumen or did Emily tell Jordan she told Lumen the truth?

[mattman6886]

Also, I want to share with my fellow Dexter freaks what recently arrived in the mail! :D

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/mattman6886/IMG_0233.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/mattman6886/IMG_0234.jpg

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Pardon the language in this clip. I mean we've all seen it! :)

[Dark Passenger]

I saw that on eBay!!! That is awesome man!

[mattman6886]

The part that confused me was the conversation between Emily Birch and Jordan. Did Jordan tell Emily what to say to Lumen or did Emily tell Jordan she told Lumen the truth?

From what I gather he told her to tell Lumen at least about who the last guy in the photo was, so that Dex and Lumen would go after him and Jordan can try and set them up to be found after he calls Deb.

I saw that on eBay!!! That is awesome man!

Thanks man! :)

[Dark Passenger]

^^ Thanks. I'm still unclear on Jordan and Emily's relationship though. He was telling her no one is more beautiful then her or something like that. So I'm assuming that they've been in touch? I watched the episode 2 times already and I still can't figure that part out.

[SwedishHeat]

She was a counselor at the summer camp he went to, and we can infer he had some infatuation with her, hence the vial of her blood. Jordan's got some fantasy fetish, that Emily is so beautiful that he can't touch her. I believe Lumen said that there was always one guy who just stood there and watched "The Watch Guy". . . "tick tick tick, that's the sound of your life running out". That was Jordan. For whatever reason, he feels he's not worthy of touching her or something, why he took Emily's hand off his, why he just stood there during the torture of those girls.

She has some Stockholm Syndrome or something, so she feels like she owes him for keeping her alive. All in all, they're both completely messed up in the head, so it's probably good that it's hard to understand their relationship, haha.

[Dark Passenger]

She was a counselor at the summer camp he went to, and we can infer he had some infatuation with her, hence the vial of her blood. Jordan's got some fantasy fetish, that Emily is so beautiful that he can't touch her. I believe Lumen said that there was always one guy who just stood there and watched "The Watch Guy". . . "tick tick tick, that's the sound of your life running out". That was Jordan. For whatever reason, he feels he's not worthy of touching her or something, why he took Emily's hand off his, why he just stood there during the torture of those girls.

She has some Stockholm Syndrome or something, so she feels like she owes him for keeping her alive. All in all, they're both completely messed up in the head, so it's probably good that it's hard to understand their relationship, haha.


Jesus. What do you do for a living? Psychiatrist? That theory makes perfect sense.

[die]

The episode last night was EPIC.


The crazy thought in my head is that with Deb & Quinn closing in on Lumen as the vigilante, is it possible one of them ends up shooting her to save Jordan Chase at season's end?

That would really set Dexter off for next season.

I know it's kinda predictable, but you gotta figure Lumen has to die, they always kill characters off like that in the show.

[ChaserFan]

Scary moment when Robocop was watching Lumen practicing her 'stabbing'; you know Dex is really in the s__t with Liddy now.

[die]

Also, I want to share with my fellow Dexter freaks what recently arrived in the mail! :D

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/mattman6886/IMG_0233.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/mattman6886/IMG_0234.jpg

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Pardon the language in this clip. I mean we've all seen it! :)



That's yours???

AWESOME. :hi5:

[DinoLast]

After the last two episodes, it looks like Dexter is back to it's very best. I guess what bogged this season down at the start, was tying up the loose ends of season 4. Now Dexter is free of that, it's a shame there are only 2 episodes left, but they look like they are going to be awesome.

[hairlesswookiee]

The episode last night was EPIC.


The crazy thought in my head is that with Deb & Quinn closing in on Lumen as the vigilante, is it possible one of them ends up shooting her to save Jordan Chase at season's end?

That would really set Dexter off for next season.

I know it's kinda predictable, but you gotta figure Lumen has to die, they always kill characters off like that in the show.

Yes I'm afraid this is going to happen. I'm finally starting to like the Lumen/Dexter relationship, and it looks like disaster is closing in. If Deb & Quinn end up finding Lumen as the vigilante how is that going to make Dexter look?? I'm sure someone is going to have to put the connection together.

I seriously want to see how Robocop and his evidence are going to end up. Does Dexter find out?? Does Quinn find out before the season finale?? Maybe Deb will see the footage??

[DinoLast]

Deb seems to be becoming the same kind of person as her father this season. She had no sorrow for killing the bad guy, and she seems to be siding with the vigilante. I would not be surprised if she finds out about Dexter and how her father raised him to become a serial killer, and then do everything she can to protect him.

[Kamandi]

I guessing Quinn will wind up killing Robo before the full truth is known. There's no realistic way to dig Dex out of this one if that video winds up with Miami's homicide unit. My wild @55 guess is Quinn will kill Murphy over some veiled thread towards Deb.

I was glad to see the spawn of Dex sent away. Biggest baggage point this season. I could almost see Jordan Chase killing off Rita's family to send Dex a message, thus unburdening the show from the remaining Rita story threads.

Lumen is red-shirted after last night.

[Kamandi]

Deb seems to be becoming the same kind of person as her father this season. She had no sorrow for killing the bad guy, and she seems to be siding with the vigilante. I would not be surprised if she finds out about Dexter and how her father raised him to become a serial killer, and then do everything she can to protect him.

If she hadn't been so traumatized by Brian I could almost see that.

[DinoLast]

If she hadn't been so traumatized by Brian I could almost see that.

She's dealt with that trauma in season 2, and she seems to cope fine with Dexter being Brian's brother. Also The book Deborah found out about Dexter in the first novel

[Kamandi]

Wow. I haven't read the books. So book Deb is an accessory after the fact? Does she understand the full scope of what Dexter has done?

[DinoLast]

Wow. I haven't read the books. So book Deb is an accessory after the fact? Does she understand the full scope of what Dexter has done?

Yes she knows, but she does find it difficult to deal with now and then, but mostly she deals with it. The books do go off it a much different direction to the TV series after season one though. It's one of those times where I enjoy the show more than the book

[CelticPredator]

I guessing Quinn will wind up killing Robo before the full truth is known. There's no realistic way to dig Dex out of this one if that video winds up with Miami's homicide unit. My wild @55 guess is Quinn will kill Murphy over some veiled thread towards Deb.

I was glad to see the spawn of Dex sent away. Biggest baggage point this season. I could almost see Jordan Chase killing off Rita's family to send Dex a message, thus unburdening the show from the remaining Rita story threads.

Lumen is red-shirted after last night.

That would be the worst thing the show would ever do. It would sink so low nothing could ever take it back to what it was....ever. What a horrible idea that would be.

[Kamandi]

I just don't think the Daddy Dex storyline is working. it's jump the shark stuff.

Honestly, how many people here would care if we never saw Harry Jr. again?

[Grange Wallis]

Deb seems to be becoming the same kind of person as her father this season. She had no sorrow for killing the bad guy, and she seems to be siding with the vigilante. I would not be surprised if she finds out about Dexter and how her father raised him to become a serial killer, and then do everything she can to protect him.

That's a little to Brother & Sister version of Lois Lane & Clark Kent once they get married... I think there is a chance Lumen being killed off, however I think she might get nabbed and sent to Jail... It'd interesting if Debra did a Dexter and tampered with evidence and tells her to take-off. And she'd have to go so her relationship with Dexter didn't draw extra suspicion onto him. I definitely think that Quinn with top Robocop or he'll be caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, like between a Jordan & Dexter cat and mouse sequence and be Killed by Jordan Chase who mistakes him for Dexter in the shadows...

Giving Dexter and Lumen the opportunely to acquire Jordan... I definitely think it'd be to repetitive for Lumen to be Killed straight after Rita... The writers can't kill everyone that gets close enough to know his secret... And She-Dexter is different. He is her White-Knight. They'll every stay together or she'll have to leave Florida or go to Jail... I won't be surprised if she dies, but I'll be frustrated by the repetitiveness of the shows writers!

[CelticPredator]

I just don't think the Daddy Dex storyline is working. it's jump the shark stuff.

Honestly, how many people here would care if we never saw Harry Jr. again?

It's working fine. Dexter killing people for 5 seasons would be incredibly boring.

I personally would hate the show if they killed his family. What kind of ____ would that be?

[shanghei]

I just wanna know what happens to Robocop, he most likely gonna die but HOW?!?!?!?

[DinoLast]

I just wanna know what happens to Robocop, he most likely gonna die but HOW?!?!?!?

Computer Virus?

[Calcifer]

I bet quinn will destroy the evidence robocop got on dexter for deb's sake or something along those lines ..for some reason i can't see them killing him off.

[Devil_666]

Honestly, how many people here would care if we never saw Harry Jr. again?

I wouldn't. :wave

[Kamandi]

Thank you. That makes at least two of us.

[barryo]

robo cop kills quinn

deb kills robo cop

jordan kills lumen

dexter kills jordan

mark it down................:lecture

[Devil_666]

Robocop.. :lol

[ShadowX81]

I just don't think the Daddy Dex storyline is working. it's jump the shark stuff.

Honestly, how many people here would care if we never saw Harry Jr. again?

How is it jump the shark stuff if he has been more or less acting as a father to Rita's kids since the beginning of the show?

I like it. With no kids in Dexter's life, he would have no personal life and nothing to balance his time with. It would just be killer Dex all the time. It creates tension and is exciting.

[hairlesswookiee]

I just don't think the Daddy Dex storyline is working. it's jump the shark stuff.

Honestly, how many people here would care if we never saw Harry Jr. again?

How is it jump the shark? He's been involved with Rita and the kids since the first season. The only change is now he's a single father.

[Kamandi]

Robocop.. :lol

My name is... Murphy!

How is it jump the shark? He's been involved with Rita and the kids since the first season. The only change is now he's a single father.

Then they should have kept one of the kids that Micheal C. Hall can act against. The scenes he had with Ashtor this season were better than anything they've done with Harry Jr. They need to do something with Dex's son besides interrupting the flow of the 'A' story.

[ChaserFan]

Then they should have kept one of the kids that Micheal C. Hall can act against. The scenes he had with Ashtor this season were better than anything they've done with Harry Jr. They need to do something with Dex's son besides interrupting the flow of the 'A' story.

Harrison is Dexter's baby, what did you expect them to do? As soon as Rita dies, Dex just throws the baby out? :lol

[hairlesswookiee]

Harrison is Dexter's baby, what did you expect them to do? As soon as Rita dies, Dex just throws the baby out? :lol

It happens all the time in the newspaper. Personally I'd try to trade it for an iPod for something.:dunno

[barryo]

that kid better not grow up back talking & dissin' on pop.......................:panic::panic::panic:

[Kamandi]

">> what did you expect them to do? As soon as Rita dies, Dex just throws the baby out?"

No, but at least the kids who play Cody and Astor were getting old enough that they could play more dramatic material (see Astor) and have more to offer the show. They also would eliminate the need for the irritating nanny character.

Or they could have sent Harry to (permanently) live with his grandparents. Worked for Worf.

[hairlesswookiee]

Then they should have kept one of the kids that Micheal C. Hall can act against. The scenes he had with Ashtor this season were better than anything they've done with Harry Jr. They need to do something with Dex's son besides interrupting the flow of the 'A' story.

I agree and I thought it was a cheap way to handle Dexter and the kids by sending them to Orlando. I was looking forward to seeing how they would show Dexter trying the single parent/serial killer juggling everything at once and still keeping his head on.

[Devil_666]

It happens all the time in the newspaper. Personally I'd try to trade it for an iPod for something.:dunno

That's just stupid. You could get AT LEAST an iPod AND a laptop for a healthy baby nowadays. Maybe even a nice top of the line Sears toaster.

[cokebabies]

robo cop kills quinn

deb kills robo cop

jordan kills lumen

dexter kills jordan

mark it down................:lecture

This really seems like the neatest way to tie things up. Whether it happens this way is the real question.

Although if Lumen dies, it would be yet another woman close to Dexter who dies / disappears (if Lumen's death isn't publicly known).

[Teddy Daniels]

I have just completed Season 3 :)

Overall I just loved it I thought it was very very good

1 question I have is right at the end where Dexter drips blood over Rita's wedding dress, does anybody know what that symbolised?

[cokebabies]

I have just completed Season 3 :)

Overall I just loved it I thought it was very very good

1 question I have is right at the end where Dexter drips blood over Rita's wedding dress, does anybody know what that symbolised?

I'm sure that could be open to anyone's interpretation. I saw it as a visualization of the idea Dexter entering marriage (the pure white dress mixed with blood being a "normal" life mixed with his hobbies). I have another theory, but you might have more opinions on this symbolism when you've caught up to the whole storyline.

And regarding current episodes (AKA stop reading here if you're not caught up)... there have been countless episode endings where I've thought "oh man, how am I going to wait a week after this?" But probably the episode ending that has raised my arm hairs and made me feel like I had to shake off the creepiness the most was the recent:

"Take care, Lumen." You're thinking the whole time he's leaving the message, "does he know who he's talking to?" Then the payoff line in his casual, almost detached manner is just nerve wracking.

[Seditionary]

I agree and I thought it was a cheap way to handle Dexter and the kids by sending them to Orlando. I was looking forward to seeing how they would show Dexter trying the single parent/serial killer juggling everything at once and still keeping his head on.

That doesn't sound very exciting at all to me.

Why wouldn't the kids go to live with their grandparents instead of having someone that isn't related to them be their sole guardian? Dexter is being reasonable in doing that because astor has a problem with him. I really don't think theres really anything wrong with how that was handled.

I like the season we've gotten. It's a hell of a lot more exciting and intense then any other season. I really like lumen and dexter since this last episode. It would've been REALLY annoying to see astor go at it with Lumen and Dexter all season long. The nanny doesn't strike me as annoying, shes been in like less than 10 minutes worth of scenes in the whole 10 hour season so far.


Also, harrison is a direct connection to how dexter was born in blood. the whole point is to see if harry was right in treating dexter like a monster since he is capable of other things. watching the kid grow up will be more important than watching some heartbroken kids deal. saying throw the kid out is like making ritas death complete cheap and just a shocking incident. If you feel that way you are completely overlooking the shows roots.

[ShadowX81]

Why wouldn't the kids go to live with their grandparents instead of having someone that isn't related to them be their sole guardian? Dexter is being reasonable in doing that because astor has a problem with him. I really don't think theres really anything wrong with how that was handled.

Why wouldn't the kids stay with a man that has been more or less raising them for years, and instead go with two old people that may be blood relatives; but they barely know.

It doesnt make sence that they went with them becuase Astor has a problem. Astor has a problem becuase the writers wanted an ecsuse for the kids to be off the show.

[Seditionary]

Who says they barely know their grandparents? I don't know man..either one is possible. Yeah dexter has been more or less raising them. im thinking less than more personally. I doubt Rita had much of a plan for her death about such an arrangement. Astor has had issues with dexter for quite sometime. I also don't think the grandparents thing is permanent. If your mother was killed in your house Im sure you would wanna take off for a bit anyways.

ugh..the internet.

[Dark Passenger]

I'm personally pretty happy Astor and Cody have been out of the story for the better part of the season. Harrison is no bother because of Super Nanny so it's no big deal. The kids don't bother me at all.

As far as the Liddy/Quinn/Deb/Dexter thing, I see someone finding out about Dexter's Dark Passenger, either Quinn or Deb. Liddy has seen it already sort of, though he's not 100% sure exactly what they're up too.

I really hope Lumen makes it. For some reason she's grown on me although I'm not sure how I feel about the romantic involvement.

[die]

I think the stuff with Harrison (who looks like a mini-me for Donnie Wahlberg) this season has been pretty good. I like that Dexter is worried to death that he'll be like him. I liked stuff from earlier seasons where he imagined his unborn son as a psycho. Alot could be done with that, maybe he'll show some serious signs?

Since we're talking predictions, I predict Quinn will see the Dexter/Lumen footage and not tell anyone. I don't think they'll kill Quinn off.

There's gotta be an advancement to the Deb/Dexter storyline, so something will have to be revealed there.

just a funny thing I noticed, on the Showtime message boards, they call Weller's character Robocop, too. :lol

[barryo]

.

just a funny thing I noticed, on the Showtime message boards, they call Weller's character Robocop, too. :lol

:yess:...................showtime message board is a bunch of copycattin' freaks.........:lecture.......:lol

[Devil_666]

Reality: Most people don't know who the hell "Peter Weller" is. But almost everybody knows who "Robocop" is. Weller is like Barry Corbin, another guy almost no one recognizes by name but if they see his picture or you name a movie he's in (e.g. He's the general in WarGames) they're like "Oh yeah".

[Kamandi]

It's criminal how overlooked Buckaroo Banzai has been over the years. Weller's other great film.

[Kamandi]

I really hope Lumen makes it. For some reason she's grown on me although I'm not sure how I feel about the romantic involvement.

Julia Stiles has been one of my celeb-crushes since she played Nicki in the Bourne films, so I hope they keep her around for a while.

[316what]

Why wouldn't the kids stay with a man that has been more or less raising them for years, and instead go with two old people that may be blood relatives; but they barely know.

It doesnt make sence that they went with them becuase Astor has a problem. Astor has a problem becuase the writers wanted an ecsuse for the kids to be off the show.

Rarely do step-parents retain custody after a biological parent dies. Most of the time the children go live with other relatives.

[Dark Passenger]

Let's not forget the survailence equipment is registered to Quinn. That can come back to him and bite him in the butt. Dexter might not like it too much.

[ShadowX81]

Rarely do step-parents retain custody after a biological parent dies. Most of the time the children go live with other relatives.
In this case staying with Dexter makes the most sense. They have no other parent, they hate Rita's mom, and they barely if at all know thier other set of grandparents. This definatly would fall into the catagory of a rare case.

[hairlesswookiee]

In this case staying with Dexter makes the most sense. They have no other parent, they hate Rita's mom, and they barely if at all know thier other set of grandparents. This definatly would fall into the catagory of a rare case.

Maybe, but I'm sure it wouldn't happen until after a custody battle in court.

[Dark Passenger]

In this case staying with Dexter makes the most sense. They have no other parent, they hate Rita's mom, and they barely if at all know thier other set of grandparents. This definatly would fall into the catagory of a rare case.

I'm beginning to wonder why you watch the show. :dunno

[ShadowX81]

I'm beginning to wonder why you watch the show. :dunno

And im honestly wondering how im the only one that finds the drama of Dex having to keep his dark passenger and home life seperate to be exciting. You remove the kids, and everything outside of work becomes unconstrained serial killer stuff all the time.

[Dark Passenger]

And im honestly wondering how im the only one that finds the drama of Dex having to keep his dark passenger and home life seperate to be exciting. You remove the kids, and everything outside of work becomes unconstrained serial killer stuff all the time.

We have seen Dexter juggle his life as a serial killer and life with Rita and the kids for 4 seasons already. It's time to move on in a new direction.

[ShadowX81]

Which judging by people's reactions to this season has clearly been the right one............

If you take away the element of Dex balancing his personal life, you are left with a giant void of time which the writers have no choice than to use up with largely meaningless filler like Angel and Laguerta and Santa Muerte.

[Dark Passenger]

Which judging by people's reactions to this season is clearly the right one............

If you take away that element, you are left with a giant void of time which the writers have no choice than to fill with meaningless trite like Angel and Laguerta and Santa Muerte.

Really? What exactly are peoples reactions to the season? I have read nothing but positive reviews and the last 2 episodes are very highly anticipated.

The show has ALWAYS been about the other characters and their "meaningless trite"... Remember Masuka's paper for the magazine? Batista's marital problems? Doakes sleeping with the cop's wife? Paul Bennet? Laguerta Sleeping with the Haitian chicks husband?......

[die]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, people tend to completely disagree over what the show is about.

Is he just a cold-blooded heartless killer? or is he a cold-blooded killer who has actually learned to care for his closest friends and family?

I can't believe that some people watch the show and don't see the self-discovery taking place. How he's learned that he is way more human than he ever thought he was or could ever be. I think certain people come & go in his life and he changes, but he grows from the experiences.

To me, this is one of the most telling quotes:

"I'm not the monster he wants me to be. So I'm neither man nor beast. I'm something new entirely. With my own set of rules. I'm Dexter. Boo."



Clearly this season, he feels like he's found something in Lumen closest to what he's been searching for. We've seen how it seems to provoke a serious emotional response when children are being threatened and how sick to his stomach he looked over the rape videos, but some people will just think Dexter is just fooling everybody and is ready to cut them all up at any second.

[ShadowX81]

And all that crap (which I remember people complaining about back then. except for Paul Bennet, that was largely part of Dexter's life) was done when Dexter's home life was taking up screen time. Youe eliminate that and thats even more time to fill.

IM not going to get in this debate again because it is something ive been over here a couple times already.

Things may be good here, but over on IMDB up until the last couple episodes the reactions have largely been negative with people complainging about the main plotline taking a back seat to secondary character's side stories.

[316what]

In this case staying with Dexter makes the most sense. They have no other parent, they hate Rita's mom, and they barely if at all know thier other set of grandparents. This definatly would fall into the catagory of a rare case.

Dexter and Rita were married maybe 2 years.....you'd be hard pressed to find any court that would award him custody over either sets of grandparents. Astor's and Cody's feelings towards Rita's mom would be irrelevant due to her age.

By rare case, I meant there were no living grandparents. Then if Rita had any siblings, that would be the next course for the courts. Dexter would stand a better chance of gaining custody in this scenario.

Maybe, but I'm sure it wouldn't happen until after a custody battle in court.

Agree....and in the end the custody battle would only hurt the children.

[die]

Things may be good here, but over on IMDB up until the last couple episodes the reactions have largely been negative with people complainging about the main plotline taking a back seat to secondary character's side stories.

Not sure how familiar you are with the discussion boards at imdb & aintitcool.com, but half the people that post at each hate everything religiously.

[Dark Passenger]

And all that crap (which I remember people complaining about back then. except for Paul Bennet, that was largely part of Dexter's life) was done when Dexter's home life was taking up screen time. Youe eliminate that and thats even more time to fill.

IM not going to get in this debate again because it is something ive been over here a couple times already.

Things may be good here, but over on IMDB up until the last couple episodes the reactions have largely been negative with people complainging about the main plotline taking a back seat to secondary character's side stories.


Never mind man. I remember you now. We argued over the Bloodslide box in my other thread.

[ChaserFan]

Never mind man. I remember you now. We argued over the Bloodslide box in my other thread.

:lol Case closed I guess.

[ShadowX81]

Never mind man. I remember you now. We argued over the Bloodslide box in my other thread.
Right, the one where you encouraged everyone to spend $200 on a hand made prop replica, even though the real box used in the show was a mass produced item available for a fraction of that.

:lol Case closed I guess.
Whats that supposed to mean?

[Dark Passenger]

Right, the one where you encouraged everyone to spend $200 on a hand made prop replica, even though the real box used in the show was a mass produced item available for a fraction of that.

And here you go again :mad:. I didn't encourage anyone anything. I started a thread to show everyone the Blood Box I got and you barge in trashing it and crapping on my parade. :nana:

And the box I got is made BY THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE IT FOR THE SHOW AS OF SEASON 5!!!!!!!!!!!! It's made using the exact materials as the one you see in the show on season 5. Same boxes. And yes the one used on the show was a cheap box that was falling apart. I have seen pictures of it.

I am done arguing with you about the show or the boxes. You're too hard headed. "Die, Die." :wave :pfft:

[Dark Passenger]

:lol Case closed I guess.

Yup. I am done with him. :lol There's no getting through.

[Seditionary]

Yeah back on topic please...whats the point of nitpicking about what the creators of the show chose not to do? It's one thing to say, I think it would be cool if they had done this or that, or I wish they would've done that. and It's another to discuss that.

then theres to argue it like any opposing opinion is wrong or something when they are siding with what the show actually did.

The show is what it is...not what it isn't.
at the same time, different themes might be important to some people rather than others...but the show is constantly evolving from the beginning structure every season. live with it...or complain yourself to death on imdb.


I'm thinking that this new season is sort of blowing season 4 and trinity out of the water...and I thought that one was nothing short of amazing. This one started out being really uneasy and I really wasn't sure if I was gonna like it...but it slowly forced me to. I didn't want lumen and dexter to hook up but I was really psyched when they did. I have literally no idea what will happen and I do help shell stick around, and that theyll bring back cody and astor in the near future.

[CelticPredator]

^ I disagree...I like this season...but with 2 episodes left...I dunno. Unless the ending is series changing. I have a feeling it might end up being pointless.

But I dont know yet. :lol

[Dark Passenger]

^ I disagree...I like this season...but with 2 episodes left...I dunno. Unless the ending is series changing. I have a feeling it might end up being pointless.

But I dont know yet. :lol

I kind of think it has to be series changing to top season 4. I consider Deb or Quinn finding out about who Dexter really is, and living, is series changing. I hope someone does. With Lumen in there though there is already a character Dexter can be himself in front of so...

[DinoLast]

^ I disagree...I like this season...but with 2 episodes left...I dunno. Unless the ending is series changing. I have a feeling it might end up being pointless.

But I dont know yet. :lol

I feel this is a bridging season, it helps tie up the loose ends of Season 4, it will probably have a conclusion to then allow season 6 to go in any direction they want it to go.

[ShadowX81]

Yeah back on topic please...whats the point of nitpicking about what the creators of the show chose not to do? It's one thing to say, I think it would be cool if they had done this or that, or I wish they would've done that. and It's another to discuss that.


Right, pretty much exactly what I was doing before Dark Passenger came in here and started with this "Why do you even watch the show?" stuff.

[die]

Season 6 confirmed!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47631

[ChaserFan]

Season 6 confirmed!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47631

Sweet! :rock

Though, not surprised at all.

[SwedishHeat]

“Dexter,” which has been performing better under new showrunner Chip Johannessen (“24”) than it ever did under old showrunner Clyde Phillips (“Suddenly Susan”)

THAT'S certainly interesting. There you have it, people like this season better than anything else so far.

[ShadowX81]

Or they are watching more this year because last year was so awsome.
With your logic, Spiderman 3 was the most well recieved film in the franchise because it made more money than its predecessors.

[Seditionary]

Or they are watching more this year because last year was so awsome.
With your logic, Spiderman 3 was the most well recieved film in the franchise because it made more money than its predecessors.

christ dude. If people tuned in because they liked last season I doubt theyd watch 10 episodes of a season they dont care for.

What's next...the holocaust didn't really happen. In fact World War II is just a figment of everyones imagination because World War I.

[ShadowX81]

Apparently alot of people do, as IMDB is evidence of. Probably just people like me. Long time fans of the series that are hoping it gets better, and only recently saw some turnaround from the mess that was the first few episodes.

[die]

Debbie Downer !!!!!! :lol

I'm super excited for the last 2 episodes, just trying to figure out how it's gonna work out. Just wondering if those tapes of Dexter & Lumen will end up getting destroyed or if Quinn will end up seeing them, maybe even worse?

I wouldn't mind seeing Robocop hold on to them and come back next season.

I don't know how they are going to get all of this worked out in just 2 more episodes.

[Seditionary]

Ive found the whole season to be pretty exciting. The first couple episodes were very difficult to watch with the rita carry over, but I've been impressed with the intensity of it thus far.

I'm really excited for the next two episodes but I hope they more or less clear up whether or not there is evidence against dexter and lumen by the end of the season. That's sort of a big thing.
I might be alittle bit dumb, but has he been recording them...I thought he was possibly just watching...That does seem a bit naive.
If he's not his credibility is pretty ____ty, worse than quinns. Quinn probably doesn't want it to get out that he hired this guy to further his dexter paranoia.

He sees that they have knives and were dumping something in the ocean... but it seems as though dexter catches on to being recorded in the next episode. That is definitely curious evidence but he hasn't seen them commit a crime. There's no law against having "beautiful" knives. I guess they are suspicious littering mostly.

How Quinn reacts to the heat is going to be important. Theres definitely going to be something with him debra and robocop. going to be interesting.

[cokebabies]

This season was a bit up and down for me. It started really strong with the very tough to watch reactions to Rita. Lumen's introduction and initial story was very slow... her as just someone wanting revenge didn't do much for me.

But once Jordan Chase was introduced, it's been full speed ahead... he's been a fantastic character.

[Dark Passenger]

Don't even argue with him gentlemen. Debbie is very hard headed.

[Dark Passenger]

This season was a bit up and down for me. It started really strong with the very tough to watch reactions to Rita. Lumen's introduction and initial story was very slow... her as just someone wanting revenge didn't do much for me.

But once Jordan Chase was introduced, it's been full speed ahead... he's been a fantastic character.

Totally agree. Jordan has been an awesome character. If he was in Fallout his Speech Skill would be 100.

[die]

Ive found the whole season to be pretty exciting. The first couple episodes were very difficult to watch with the rita carry over, but I've been impressed with the intensity of it thus far.

I'm really excited for the next two episodes but I hope they more or less clear up whether or not there is evidence against dexter and lumen by the end of the season. That's sort of a big thing.
I might be alittle bit dumb, but has he been recording them...I thought he was possibly just watching...That does seem a bit naive.
If he's not his credibility is pretty ____ty, worse than quinns. Quinn probably doesn't want it to get out that he hired this guy to further his dexter paranoia.

He sees that they have knives and were dumping something in the ocean... but it seems as though dexter catches on to being recorded in the next episode. That is definitely curious evidence but he hasn't seen them commit a crime. There's no law against having "beautiful" knives. I guess they are suspicious littering mostly.

How Quinn reacts to the heat is going to be important. Theres definitely going to be something with him debra and robocop. going to be interesting.

Well, I'm pretty sure it's all recorded...audio and video with them talking about killing and everything. He's caught on that it's much more serious than he imagined before. It still remains to be seen what will happen with Robocop's newfound knowledge, but knowing his character, he'll probably want to use it for blackmail or some type of serious leverage. My guess is Dexter will go after Quinn due to the faked request forums and all.

agreed on Jordan Chase, he's really turned out to be a good bad guy. Yes, the season did start off slow but it really picked up. They did a good job with developing Jordan Chase and Lumen as characters, I wasn't sure at first if they could make them important but they did.

The wait is killing me.:lol

[Seditionary]

Well, I'm pretty sure it's all recorded...audio and video with them talking about killing and everything. He's caught on that it's much more serious than he imagined before. It still remains to be seen what will happen with Robocop's newfound knowledge, but knowing his character, he'll probably want to use it for blackmail or some type of serious leverage. My guess is Dexter will go after Quinn due to the faked request forums and all.

agreed on Jordan Chase, he's really turned out to be a good bad guy. Yes, the season did start off slow but it really picked up. They did a good job with developing Jordan Chase and Lumen as characters, I wasn't sure at first if they could make them important but they did.

The wait is killing me.:lol

although, robocops reaction to the knives was a bit more shocked then he was about the garbage bags they dropped. the "oh my god" thing..is like a realization that they are doing something screwed up. I think maybe there is a goodcop under there still.

[Dark Passenger]

Well, I'm pretty sure it's all recorded...audio and video with them talking about killing and everything. He's caught on that it's much more serious than he imagined before. It still remains to be seen what will happen with Robocop's newfound knowledge, but knowing his character, he'll probably want to use it for blackmail or some type of serious leverage. My guess is Dexter will go after Quinn due to the faked request forums and all.

agreed on Jordan Chase, he's really turned out to be a good bad guy. Yes, the season did start off slow but it really picked up. They did a good job with developing Jordan Chase and Lumen as characters, I wasn't sure at first if they could make them important but they did.

The wait is killing me.:lol

Going by scenes of next week... He does find out the equipment is registered to Quinn. Should be very interesting.

[Devil_666]

I think maybe there is a goodcop under there still.

Nah. He justs sees an opportunity to make a big bust and restore his status at work. He's still a scumbag. :lol

[DinoLast]

Nah. He justs sees an opportunity to make a big bust and restore his status at work. He's still a scumbag. :lol

I agree, I can't see him having any redeeming qualities at all, he's just a good old fashioned Bastard.
It will be very satisfying to see him taken out

[die]

Yeah, Robocop is definitely turned ED209... Maybe, the new Trimspa Version of Quinn is the future of law enforcement?

In other words, maybe Quinn will end up surprising us?

There are 2 things that we do know though: somebody(s) gonna die and there's gonna be a Season 6 :panic:

Anybody else miss the old days when Dexter & Debra used to go out and eat together and hang out? I always liked that part of the show. I know they've had a few cool moments with each other here and there, but I always liked the brother/sister bonding thing they had going in Season 1.

[cokebabies]

Yeah, Robocop is definitely turned ED209... Maybe, the new Trimspa Version of Quinn is the future of law enforcement?


This is actually something I had been wondering... between seasons three and four, it looked like Quinn put on about 15-20 pounds, now he lost so much weight he's looking like a bobble head. Was it for a movie role or something, or just odd dietary habits?

[Dark Passenger]

This is actually something I had been wondering... between seasons three and four, it looked like Quinn put on about 15-20 pounds, now he lost so much weight he's looking like a bobble head. Was it for a movie role or something, or just odd dietary habits?

He is on a major TV series. I'd want to look good too!

[cokebabies]

But he was on a major TV series when he gained the weight as well... the fluctuation is the odd thing.

[hairlesswookiee]

Yeah I really noticed it in last week's episode. He definitely got trimmed down this season. I"m not sure if it's something for another movie or not, but he's looking weirdly proportioned now.

[Dark Passenger]

The weight is one thing but I wonder if he had something done to his face. It looks so different. Maybe it's just thinner and his cheeks are more pronounced?

[cokebabies]

He's getting Eminem face.

[Dark Passenger]

He's getting Eminem face.

:lol






.

[die]

Yup, it's definitely Eminem face.

He's got that "heroin pout" going on, like Mick Jagger or Scott Weiland have.

When Debra confronted him in the briefing room about the stuff with Dexter, he looked really odd in the close-ups of his face. his hair is longer and lighter too.


He doesn't even look like the same guy anymore.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Desmond_Harrington_cropped_2010.jpg/220px-Desmond_Harrington_cropped_2010.jpg

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BODc1NjM3MjczN15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDE0NjkxMg@@._ V1._SX500_SY333_.jpg

[Dark Passenger]

His differences aside, for some reason I feel bad for him since Deb found out. His character grew on me as well as Lumen's has.

[DarthMagnus]

Bump for tonight! Which should be an epic pre-finale!!!! :rock I cant wait!!!:panic::panic::panic:

[Dark Passenger]

Holy hell!!!! What an episode... I really hope Lumen and Quinn live through this season.

RIP Stan Liddy. Good character, great actor. Glad to see you go though.

It will be interesting to see how Quinn reacts to Liddy's death. He's going to have to know it was Dexter!!!!

[CelticPredator]

Liddy's taze was awesome! He tazed the ____ outta Dex.

[Dark Passenger]

Liddy's taze was awesome! He tazed the ____ outta Dex.

He sure did! LOL

Can't wait to see what happens between Dex/Quinn/Deb.

I can see Lumen taking the fall for the whole thing.

[RICEaRONI]

Quinn is definitely going to get pinned for the murder of Liddy with that drop of blood on his shoe

[SwedishHeat]

Quinn is definitely going to get pinned for the murder of Liddy with that drop of blood on his shoe

Quinn will get fingered for Liddy's death. Quinn will know it was Dexter. Quinn will have to choose to expose that he was investigating Dex, which gives Dex motive to kill Liddy, which would therefore trash Quinn's relationship with Deb, or keep his mouth shut, and hope he's exonerated.

Dex will HAVE to do what he can do put Liddy's death on Quinn. How will Dex deal with the guilt of an innocent man doing time for a murder that Dex committed??

Or Lumen will kill Jordan and say she killed Liddy because he was getting too close, and she'll keep the secret. And Deb will just have to deal with the fact that they couldn't find the vigilante's partner.

[ChaserFan]

Man, the end of the preview for next week's finale was insane! The next seven days are gonna be loooooong as hell.

[CelticPredator]

If Dex pins the murder on Quinn, then i'll hate his character forever. He's not the best person...but he does try. And he's not a terrible person deep down....I think he had a feeling that Quinn wasnt behind this after all....I hope so. Quinn's a good guy. Unless he pulls a 180 and turns into a total prick.

Who knows. Maybe Quinn can know the secret too. Maybe he can be Dex's inside acomplace. Could score some points with Deb if Quinn and Dexter are somewhat friends....

[Grange Wallis]

If Dex pins the murder on Quinn, then i'll hate his character forever. He's not the best person...but he does try. And he's not a terrible person deep down....I think he had a feeling that Quinn wasnt behind this after all....I hope so. Quinn's a good guy. Unless he pulls a 180 and turns into a total prick.

Who knows. Maybe Quinn can know the secret too. Maybe he can be Dex's inside acomplace. Could score some points with Deb if Quinn and Dexter are somewhat friends....

He was happy to pin it on Doakes in season 2 and he was Quinn to the power of 1,000,000! One of the best cast members in the show ever!

I reckon it will be interesting to see how that goes down... 7 days away! Feels like such an epic wait!:monkey2

[CelticPredator]

But...Doakes was a creepy stalker. He went way over the line. Quinn grazed the line, and backed out. He's not the crazy sociopath Doakes was.

[Devil_666]

He's not the best person...but he does try. And he's not a terrible person deep down....

He's a serial killer bro. :slap

The only reason he kills "criminals" and not random "innocent" people is because his adopted father/mentor Harry (a cop BTW) made it a rule. Since Harry knew cops wouldn't go that extra mile to find/investigate missing scum bags. But make no mistake, Dexter is no different than any other serial killer/murderer. No different than John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, etc.

Quinn grazed the line, and backed out. He's not the crazy sociopath Doakes was.

Quinn's still a dirty cop.

[CelticPredator]

Dude...it's a TV show. I consider Dexter a hero. No different then how people consider The Punisher a hero. He kills people who do deserve to die.

And Quinn is a dirty cop....but how the ____ does that make me hate him? He steals money? Whoopy do. He has to rape babies or kill children to get me to hate him. He's totally awesome now. :D

[Dark Passenger]

I really can't see Quinn taking the fall for Liddy. I'm not really sure if anything will come from that drop of blood on Quinn's shoe. I am really growing to like Quinn, hopefully he just ignores the fact that Dexter killed Liddy. :lol

I'm crossing my fingers for Lumen's safety. :pray:

[die]

Man, I kinda hated to see Robocop go out like that. I was kinda hoping he'd be around next season, yeah, I knew that wouldn't happen but I still had hopes!

So, Jordan Chase killed that chick last night and left his fingerprints on the weapon and his own blood at the scene. Wonder if Dexter can somehow pin Robocop's murder on Chase, too? Also, gotta believe that the blood on Quinn's shoe will play a role, possibly Robocop's murder being pinned on him. Wonder if Deb will be the one to find the bloody shoe?

Great show last night though...not as epic as last week's episode, but still was awesome.

[Devil_666]

Dude...it's a TV show.

That's a weak argument and a cop out. ALL the discussion in here suspends disbelief, so why pull the "It's a TV show" now!? If that's the case there's no need to discuss any aspect of Dexter because its just a TV show. Will Dexter get caught? Who cares, it's a TV show. Why did Dexer do this or that? Who cares, it's a TV show. :slap

[Dark Passenger]

My comments on the teaser from next week. May contain spoilers.

I think the hand dropping the knife is Jordan's. It looks like a button shirt and he is wearing a tie, if you pause it. You can also see a Hand in the air on the right, looks like a woman's. If it's Dexter, why would the woman's (Lumen's likely) hand be up?

[Bustajesse]

I hope Dexter doesn't pin Liddy's murder on Quinn. I will lose all respect for him if he does. It still makes me angry to this day that he let Doakes be known as the BHB.

[die]

Wonder if Dexter will pin it on Jordan Chase? and then Quinn will just keep quiet about it?

Dexter heard the phone call between Liddy & Quinn, he knows Quinn's heart isn't in it and he knows Debra really likes Quinn.

Seems like the perfect set-up.

I just hope Lumen doesn't die this season. Still wondering where they'll go with that.

[CelticPredator]

That's a weak argument and a cop out. ALL the discussion in here suspends disbelief, so why pull the "It's a TV show" now!? If that's the case there's no need to discuss any aspect of Dexter because its just a TV show. Will Dexter get caught? Who cares, it's a TV show. Why did Dexer do this or that? Who cares, it's a TV show. :slap

Exactly!


But we still care because we enjoy watching it. But it's still a TV show. I would hope if there was someone out there like Dexter, we would cheer him on! :lecture Dexter is the hero of our times.

[cokebabies]

I'm ALREADY dreading the wait between seasons. Ugh, every season I forget how to shut off my "Sunday is new Dexter!" mode.

[Dark Passenger]

Wonder if Dexter will pin it on Jordan Chase? and then Quinn will just keep quiet about it?

Dexter heard the phone call between Liddy & Quinn, he knows Quinn's heart isn't in it and he knows Debra really likes Quinn.

Seems like the perfect set-up.

I just hope Lumen doesn't die this season. Still wondering where they'll go with that.

These theories make a lot of sense. :goodpost:

[RICEaRONI]

pinning Liddy's murder on Chase makes absolutely no sense.

pinning it on Quinn is a perfect way to get that jackass off the show.

and I hope Lumen doesn't die, even though that seems like the direction its going in.

[cokebabies]

I'm wondering if Quinn will turn into more of the flipside of Doakes... someone who knows (at least some of) what Dexter gets up to, but doesn't pursue it / have something against it.

Quinn seems like someone who wouldn't actually be against the concept of a vigilante. He went after Dexter because he thought Dexter killed his wife. But if it becomes clear that Dexter is a vigilante, I think he'll back off for that reason in addition to all the Deb-related reasons. We already saw that while she might not fully support it (though we haven't been shown she doesn't), at the very least Deb understands the revenge killings, to the point of perversely romanticizing them. Should that concept come up between Deb and Quinn, it could only further serve to soften any opinion Quinn might have towards vigilanteism (especially since he seems willing to drop almost any pretenses in order to get Deb back).

Of course, Dexter killing Liddy is the elephant in that plot's room. So it'll be interesting to see where that goes.

[Devil_666]

Exactly!


But we still care because we enjoy watching it. But it's still a TV show. I would hope if there was someone out there like Dexter, we would cheer him on! :lecture Dexter is the hero of our times.

:slap:slap:slap

[Dark Passenger]

pinning Liddy's murder on Chase makes absolutely no sense.

pinning it on Quinn is a perfect way to get that jackass off the show.

and I hope Lumen doesn't die, even though that seems like the direction its going in.

Maybe they will think Liddy was looking into Chase?

I'm liking Quinn for some reason. I don't think he's going to rat Dexter out.

[CelticPredator]

You're right

:goodpost:

[Devil_666]

:slap:slap:slap

:lecture:lecture:lecture

[CelticPredator]

That's not what you said! My brain says otherwise.

It also tells me to burn down a preschool....oh that brain. :D

[Devil_666]

Dis meens wharr....

[die]

pinning Liddy's murder on Chase makes absolutely no sense.

pinning it on Quinn is a perfect way to get that jackass off the show.

and I hope Lumen doesn't die, even though that seems like the direction its going in.

The blood on the shoe is just too obvious. Why would Dexter need to pin it on Quinn if the blood is already on his shoe?

By pinning the murder on Chase, then killing Chase, it's an easily resolved case. Pinning it on Quinn means sending the man his sister loves to prison for the rest of his life. I don't really think Dexter sees Quinn as a big problem anymore, but that may change. I think Dexter will probably pin it on Chase and then the blood on his shoe will come back to bite Quinn.

[SwedishHeat]

My initial thought was just that Quinn will notice the blood on his shoe later, and go back out to the van and start putting the pieces together.

I think a scene in which Batista/Deb/LaGuerta notices blood on Quinn's shoe and then that ends up leading to Quinn's arrest is just a bit silly.

[ShadowX81]

The blood on the shoe is just too obvious. Why would Dexter need to pin it on Quinn if the blood is already on his shoe?

By pinning the murder on Chase, then killing Chase, it's an easily resolved case. Pinning it on Quinn means sending the man his sister loves to prison for the rest of his life. I don't really think Dexter sees Quinn as a big problem anymore, but that may change. I think Dexter will probably pin it on Chase and then the blood on his shoe will come back to bite Quinn.

But it makes no sense. The Chase and Liddy storylines are completly connected, with them not even knowing eachother. There is no way that Chase could get the murder pinned on him with no motive, opportunity, or evidence.

[Dark Passenger]

But it makes no sense. The Chase and Liddy storylines are completly connected, with them not even knowing eachother. There is no way that Chase could get the murder pinned on him with no motive, opportunity, or evidence.

Sure it does. If they find a way to make it seem that Liddy was spying on Chase, which will most likely happen knowing this show.

[hairlesswookiee]

He's a serial killer bro. :slap

The only reason he kills "criminals" and not random "innocent" people is because his adopted father/mentor Harry (a cop BTW) made it a rule. Since Harry knew cops wouldn't go that extra mile to find/investigate missing scum bags. But make no mistake, Dexter is no different than any other serial killer/murderer. No different than John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, etc.



Quinn's still a dirty cop.

That's a weak argument and a cop out. ALL the discussion in here suspends disbelief, so why pull the "It's a TV show" now!? If that's the case there's no need to discuss any aspect of Dexter because its just a TV show. Will Dexter get caught? Who cares, it's a TV show. Why did Dexer do this or that? Who cares, it's a TV show. :slap

:lecture :lecture Yes to all of this. The only thing that makes Dexter different from the normal serial killer is that he kills criminals. I also cannot wait until next Sunday for the end of the season. So far it's been one hell of a ride.

[mattman6886]

He's a serial killer bro. :slap

The only reason he kills "criminals" and not random "innocent" people is because his adopted father/mentor Harry (a cop BTW) made it a rule. Since Harry knew cops wouldn't go that extra mile to find/investigate missing scum bags. But make no mistake, Dexter is no different than any other serial killer/murderer. No different than John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, etc.



Quinn's still a dirty cop.



:lecture :lecture Yes to all of this. The only thing that makes Dexter different from the normal serial killer is that he kills criminals. I also cannot wait until next Sunday for the end of the season. So far it's been one hell of a ride.


No way!

Do we watch the same show??

A HUGE part of the show, in fact the overlying theme of the show, is Dexter's morality. Slowly revealing that Dexter actually cares about people. That he is not the emotionless killer from season 1, with a code that keeps him from killing innocent people just so he won't get caught. Harry made him believe that instead of actually helping him because that was the only way he knew how to raise him. The show is about Dexter's realization, through his bonds with those around him, that he's actually a good person inside, who was messed up by witnessing his mother's death and was further misguided by his foster father.