Dexter Discussion Thread *Spoilers*

[Dark Passenger]

They aren't hooking up you sickos.

They are setting up her love for her brother so that when the time comes for her to choose turning him as a killer or letting him go, it is more dramatic.

Twisted people here, I tell ya.

I hope to god this is it. My mind couldn't grasp something so stupid as to it being romantic.

Another idiot theory I read is that Louis is Brian Moser's son. UGH!



Trooper Trent on theRPF had a great theory. That the search engine Louis told Dexter was Louis' own software and has been tracking Dexter's searches. THAT could be cool.

[Calcifer]

That the search engine Louis told Dexter was Louis' own software and has been tracking Dexter's searches. THAT could be cool.

Loving that theory!!:rock

[noisetrigger]

Seriously, do you guys really want to see incest that much? even though it's not technically incest.

I really don't see that happening and after Rita died and Lumen left, Deb is the only last adult person on earth that Dexter is 'fond' of so it is obvious that Deb would be featured prominently as his last anchor on humanity or emotion or something.

[Calcifer]

HOLY ____!!! Can't believe I didn't notice it the first time! but the dead couple on the ground could be laguerta and Matthews!

Dark skinned female in purple next to a grey haired man!:horror

[Dark Passenger]

HOLY ____!!! Can't believe I didn't notice it the first time! but the dead couple on the ground could be laguerta and Matthews!

Dark skinned female in purple next to a grey haired man!:horror

I don't think so. Looks like an old couple with a cat to me.

[Mr. EcKo]

I went ahead and got some screencaps for us

This should piss Travis off
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7576/dexterscreencap.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/dexterscreencap.jpg/)

Dexter The Demon
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1329/dexterscreencap2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/dexterscreencap2.jpg/)

Not Laguerta & Matthews
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5360/dexterscreencap3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/dexterscreencap3.jpg/)

Quinn Busting in the door to save Batista ( I hope they didn't rape him)
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/274/dexterscreencap4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/dexterscreencap4.jpg/)

Looks like this is Miami Metro - That looks like a Married Female Hand too
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/1296/dexterscreencap5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/dexterscreencap5.jpg/)

[Calcifer]

Thanks for the screen gabs Mike! :) ..ya I was wrong about the couple on the floor, but I'm 100% certain that hand on the glass belongs to Mrs Doomsday.

She probably fails her mission locks herself in that room and kills herself in some sort of weird stigmata type fashion.

[Dark Passenger]

We all know Batista and Quinn don't die (sadly).

The hand is probably dude's wife after she releases Wormwood in Miami Metro.



**LOL I was one minute too slow.

[Calcifer]

**LOL I was one minute too slow.

Well I actually mentioned it earlier too!:D ..ya know what? ..I still have a feeling Quinn might die.

[pixletwin]

OK. Episode 10 was interesting and not in a good way. Something strangely awkward and un-Dexter about the writing.

[crows]

sometimes I wonder, What's with all the hate against James Remar and Harry being in the show?

I have read a lot of negative comments on the IMDB of the show and read people that think he sucks and that he should not be in the show, among other things...

But, Harry is my favorite character outside of Dexter, I love how he is always talking to Dexter about his plans and stuff, I love Harry, I always like when he appears in an episode,sometimes I wish he appeared more,
but then, like i said, a lot of people hate him. I really wonder why? :(

[Mr. EcKo]

I like Harry . He's Dexters Good side and helps Dex out in tough situations .

[Ash Housewares]

Dexter sounded really shakey when he did his inner monologues. Something is definately off this season. Compare the style and the tone to previous seasons. It all seems cheap now.

[Blood Electricity]

he's also not as cautious as he used to be. It's totally stupid seeing him be so wreckless.

[die]

Seriously, do you guys really want to see incest that much? even though it's not technically incest.

I really don't see that happening and after Rita died and Lumen left, Deb is the only last adult person on earth that Dexter is 'fond' of so it is obvious that Deb would be featured prominently as his last anchor on humanity or emotion or something.

I don't see where ANYBODY in here said they want to see that???

I think the overwhelming response is "I hope they don't go there".

Like I said before, I think they are just trying to re-establish the Debra/Dexter bond that was established in Season 1 and then almost completely discarded season by season afterwards. BUT... as somebody mentioned, some of the stuff with the psychiatrist and the preview for next week kinda seem to tease at the possibility of something more intimate, which we all hope does not happen.

I think some of us even pondered if they were gonna go the lesbian route with Debra and the psychiatrist at one point lol.


which I would be much cooler with. :wave



sometimes I wonder, What's with all the hate against James Remar and Harry being in the show?

I have read a lot of negative comments on the IMDB of the show and read people that think he sucks and that he should not be in the show, among other things...

But, Harry is my favorite character outside of Dexter, I love how he is always talking to Dexter about his plans and stuff, I love Harry, I always like when he appears in an episode,sometimes I wish he appeared more,
but then, like i said, a lot of people hate him. I really wonder why?


I can explain this! As an OG Dexter fan, I can remember when I would discuss Dexter on SSF and people would say "Oh, Dexter's lab?!? I love that cartoon!!!!" I also posted on the dexter board on sho.com and listened mostly to the few fans who were like me and the waves and waves of middle-aged housewives who went on and on about how hot "MCH" was and how he had dreamy eyebrows and crap ---ahhh, those were the days! But yeah, alot of the people who came along later in the series tend to have a different take on the character...they really just want Dexter to be a show where he's just an unrestricted killer. Soooooooo, anything that gets in the way of that, they want gone (Harry). It's like Rita, fans wanted her gone and she's gone. I think the ending to Season 4 was EPIC, don't get me wrong- but, it could easily be looked back upon one day as when Dexter "jumped the shark". Not saying the past 2 seasons have been bad, but it does seem like they are struggling now to re-establish the whole foundation that made Dexter such a great character. The whole "don't get caught" tense moments are simply not what they used to be, the inner dialogue and "living double lives" moments are not as definied or interesting as they once were. Dexter at work is an afterthought now...nobody suspects him, no watching his back for James Doakes' chilling stares and computing mind.....no tense moments at home with trying to hide his work from Rita. Alot of the fans these days just never got how Harry, Rita, Doakes and Debra were essential to Dexter's character. They just think he should just kill kill kill every week and that's the show.

that's my 2 cents anyways.

[Morbach]

I love Harry. The show wouldn't be the same without him.

[Kamandi]

Harry taught Dex to be the way he is. I've always thought the nature vs. nurture question was one of the untold stories of this show. Did Harry discover a killer inside Dex or make one? If it's the later, then did Harry have a dark passenger too?

I'd like to see a young Harry episode where we find out he wasn't so different from Dex.

[crows]

Dexter sounded really shakey when he did his inner monologues. Something is definately off this season. Compare the style and the tone to previous seasons. It all seems cheap now.

he's also not as cautious as he used to be. It's totally stupid seeing him be so wreckless.

Like someone said before somewhere else, Now Dexter Inner monologue just states the obvious, like, they are not even monologues but more like a narration of the obvious,

I dont know I like all seasons but, If i had to say of a worst season, I this season is the worst of all of them, I think this was weaker than 3 or 5

[SwedishHeat]

I like to read the TV Club (http://www.avclub.com/section/tv/) and they're just tearing this show up.

I find that reviews tend to color my opinion of the show, I know I didn't really have any harsh feelings toward last season but now I definitely agree that the writers this time out are kind of spoon-feeding bit and pieces of the plot.

The show started off kind of as a smart person's show, exploring the world, and what it's like to live in it as an emotion-less serial killer. . . now they've pretty much dropped that whole bit completely. It's like they've completely forgotten that they spent the first 2-3 seasons dealing with the fact that Dex was unable to feel anything besides the thrill of a kill. I remember when he was monologuing about how he was glad he never had to have sex with Rita because he could never feel anything for her, flash forward 4 years and he's banging random gas station attendants, he's feeling 'lust' for one thing. . . something they went to great pains earlier on establishing that he couldn't do.

Definitely ironic considering this season was billed as a 'back to basics' type of effort, when it's been everything but.

[Droog Alex]

I like to read the TV Club (http://www.avclub.com/section/tv/) and they're just tearing this show up.

I find that reviews tend to color my opinion of the show, I know I didn't really have any harsh feelings toward last season but now I definitely agree that the writers this time out are kind of spoon-feeding bit and pieces of the plot.

The show started off kind of as a smart person's show, exploring the world, and what it's like to live in it as an emotion-less serial killer. . . now they've pretty much dropped that whole bit completely. It's like they've completely forgotten that they spent the first 2-3 seasons dealing with the fact that Dex was unable to feel anything besides the thrill of a kill. I remember when he was monologuing about how he was glad he never had to have sex with Rita because he could never feel anything for her, flash forward 4 years and he's banging random gas station attendants, he's feeling 'lust' for one thing. . . something they went to great pains earlier on establishing that he couldn't do.

Definitely ironic considering this season was billed as a 'back to basics' type of effort, when it's been everything but.

:goodpost: :exactly:

[bloodgear]

I like to read the TV Club (http://www.avclub.com/section/tv/) and they're just tearing this show up.

I find that reviews tend to color my opinion of the show, I know I didn't really have any harsh feelings toward last season but now I definitely agree that the writers this time out are kind of spoon-feeding bit and pieces of the plot.

The show started off kind of as a smart person's show, exploring the world, and what it's like to live in it as an emotion-less serial killer. . . now they've pretty much dropped that whole bit completely. It's like they've completely forgotten that they spent the first 2-3 seasons dealing with the fact that Dex was unable to feel anything besides the thrill of a kill. I remember when he was monologuing about how he was glad he never had to have sex with Rita because he could never feel anything for her, flash forward 4 years and he's banging random gas station attendants, he's feeling 'lust' for one thing. . . something they went to great pains earlier on establishing that he couldn't do.

Definitely ironic considering this season was billed as a 'back to basics' type of effort, when it's been everything but.

That was part of the charm of the first four seasons. I always found Dex to be completely human when he rambled on about he wasn't. The show always showed little insights into that.

Now he's hardly the same character.

[die]

I like to read the TV Club (http://www.avclub.com/section/tv/) and they're just tearing this show up.

I find that reviews tend to color my opinion of the show, I know I didn't really have any harsh feelings toward last season but now I definitely agree that the writers this time out are kind of spoon-feeding bit and pieces of the plot.

The show started off kind of as a smart person's show, exploring the world, and what it's like to live in it as an emotion-less serial killer. . . now they've pretty much dropped that whole bit completely. It's like they've completely forgotten that they spent the first 2-3 seasons dealing with the fact that Dex was unable to feel anything besides the thrill of a kill. I remember when he was monologuing about how he was glad he never had to have sex with Rita because he could never feel anything for her, flash forward 4 years and he's banging random gas station attendants, he's feeling 'lust' for one thing. . . something they went to great pains earlier on establishing that he couldn't do.

Definitely ironic considering this season was billed as a 'back to basics' type of effort, when it's been everything but.


:exactly:

Well said here. I could kinda understand where they were going with Lila and Lumen sexually, because Dexter would perhaps be turned on by the idea of somebody knowing who he is and accepting him fully. It would create a true feeling of intimacy for him, kinda the same way he would feel about having a friend like that as well, much like he would have liked to have been with Miguel and Brian. It really makes no sense to have Dexter banging some skank in a gas station or shooting guns, etc, really. While the episode with Brian this season was great for nostalgic reasons, it just seemed more like it hurt the season than helped. It's like they threw in an episode, like they didn't have enough DDK content and needed to make a complete season. It seemed more like something you'd see in deleted scenes or alternate scenes or something.

[Ash Housewares]

Looks like they night be going there. Spoilers

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbDAL9zDaf0&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Sent from my iPhone

[Calcifer]

I posted that video already (but it wasn't embedded) I assumed we all had watched that, if you have been arguing against the idea go ahead and watch that video!^^^

[Morbach]

I do think some people over think things a bit much. Dexter said he wasn't interested in sex until Rita gave him some "sucky sucky" on Halloween. Up until that point he made a move that chased her off. He got the urge to do it as he did when he was nailing Layla in season 2.

Then he did Lumen in season 5. We have watched this character evolve and grow and so you can't expect the same thing of him. I think people are too quick to jump on the negative.

[Dark Passenger]

I do think some people over think things a bit much. Dexter said he wasn't interested in sex until Rita gave him some "sucky sucky" on Halloween. Up until that point he made a move that chased her off. He got the urge to do it as he did when he was nailing Layla in season 2.

Then he did Lumen in season 5. We have watched this character evolve and grow and so you can't expect the same thing of him. I think people are too quick to jump on the negative.

I agree. His character grows more human every season.
-In the first episode of Season 1 he says he has no feelings and then by Episode 12 he cries after killing his brother.
-Season 2 he feels bad for ruining Doakes life and having Lundy get caught in Dexter's own crossfire, so he decides to turn himself in. Lila makes it easy for him by killing Doakes, but Dexter was going to do the right thing. He had a conscience then.
-Season 3 he longs for human connection with a real friend, Miguel Prado. He even gives Carmella a mercy killing feeding her spiked pie.
-Season 4 his love for Rita and the kids grow. He feels remorse for killing an innocent, the photographer, Jonathan Farrow.
-Season 5 he starts off by wanting to help Lumen (before wanting to bang her).
-Season 6 Brother Sam becomes Dexter's first true friend. That's why Dexter was caught so off guard when Dexter said Sam should come over sometime and Sam said sure how about tonight. He started off wanting to help Travis rid himself of his Dark Passenger.

Don't say he was a ruthless killing machine all series! (Not you Morbach).




As far as Deb, there is NO WAY they will be romantically involved. They are setting up her love for him to make it more dramatic when she finds out. That's my view and I'm sticking with it. :lecture
(Because I can't accept anything else).

[Calcifer]

Selling my entire Dexter collection
Dark Passenger




:monkey3

[Dark Passenger]

Selling my entire Dexter collection
Dark Passenger




:monkey3


If they do the romatic Deb/Dexter angle, I don't know how I could look at my collection anymore. Too bad the writers won't fit the Code.

[Calcifer]

If they do the romatic Deb/Dexter angle, I don't know how I could look at my collection anymore. Too bad the writers won't fit the Code.

:lol Despite me agreeing with the signs I have been thinking about it and I am actually leaning more towards your theory, as much as it looks that way It would be a very risky thing to do and could put off many of there fans.



..but hey if it does happen ....I called it!:D

[Dark Passenger]

:lol Despite me agreeing with the signs I have been thinking about it and I am actually leaning more towards your theory, as much as it looks that way It would be a very risky thing to do and could put off many of there fans.



..but hey if it does happen ....I called it!:D

So either way, you win? LOL

I would rather Doakes walk into the station, punch in, and take the next homicide case, without the writers even acknowledging it or explaining his return at all.

The day Dexter kisses Deb before she walks into her office, and him his lab, is the day I stop watching. Can't happen!!

[Calcifer]

The day Dexter kisses Deb before she walks into her office, and him his lab, is the day I stop watching. Can't happen!!

It would be worth it just to see how Masuka reacts to it! :lol

[Dark Passenger]

It would be worth it just to see how Masuka reacts to it! :lol

That would be good. But if they get Deb and Dex together, the writers would most likely screw up Masuka's line.






If they do nothing with Louis' character, they missed a great writing opportunity. That search engine tracking has so much potential.

[Calcifer]

That search engine tracking has so much potential.

:exactly:It really does!

I was thinking earlier , given his interest in serial killers it wouldn't surprise me if Louise's apartment was actually Brian's place, possibly renovated...I'm probably wrong I kind of forget the layout,must re-watch that scene.

[Droog Alex]

:exactly:It really does!

I was thinking earlier , given his interest in serial killers it wouldn't surprise me if Louise's apartment was actually Brian's place, possibly renovated...I'm probably wrong I kind of forget the layout,must re-watch that scene.
That would rock!!!!!! :lecture

[Dark Passenger]

That would be freaking awesome!

[YoNoSe]

I'm hoping that, if anything, it's a "maybe....nahhhh" moment for Deb.

I found this short synopsis for the final episode. Putting it in spoiler tags though it gives vague plot details and reveals nothing. It does say something interesting considering what we've been talking about.


Episode 12 - This Is the Way the World Ends:
Dexter and the Homicide team race to catch the Doomsday Killers before their final act; Deb copes with a new emotional reality.

:dunno

[crows]

If they do the romatic Deb/Dexter angle, I don't know how I could look at my collection anymore. Too bad the writers won't fit the Code.

:lol Despite me agreeing with the signs I have been thinking about it and I am actually leaning more towards your theory, as much as it looks that way It would be a very risky thing to do and could put off many of there fans.



..but hey if it does happen ....I called it!:D

I dont know, just because Deb might be in love with Dexter doesn't mean he feels the same, That might even drive dexter away from her, maybe makes him feel differently, I mean, What if Deb Finds out about Dexter being a killer, but loves him, at the same time what If Dexter starts wondering if he can kill her or not

I could see this going in different ways, or Deb feeling guilty for having those feelings for Dexter and doing something crazy,
I mean, This actually sounds like could even end up being interesting

[Mr. EcKo]

:exactly:It really does!

I was thinking earlier , given his interest in serial killers it wouldn't surprise me if Louise's apartment was actually Brian's place, possibly renovated...I'm probably wrong I kind of forget the layout,must re-watch that scene.

Lila lived in the same building as Brian Moser . Damn i need a screen cap.

The episode where Dexter goes to Rudy's house and goes in his trash to get that piece of cotton with the blood . Look at the hallway when Dex is walking up to the door and the door in the hallway .

And then watch the episode in season 2 when Dex goes to Lilas -

Its the same hallway

Same doors

[Calcifer]

Lila lived in the same building as Brian Moser . Damn i need a screen cap.

The episode where Dexter goes to Rudy's house and goes in his trash to get that piece of cotton with the blood . Look at the hallway when Dex is walking up to the door and the door in the hallway .

And then watch the episode in season 2 when Dex goes to Lilas -

Its the same hallway

Same doors


I will go back and check, but if Lila did live in the same building as Brian Dex would have mentioned it trough his inner dialog during that season.


They probably have reused set pieces, I really wouldn't bother reading into it to much.

[Mr. EcKo]

I got the pics , give me a minute

[Mr. EcKo]

Ok Season 1 - Episode 11
Look at the hallway and the DOOR

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/7669/dexter1111567.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/dexter1111567.jpg/)

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6108/dexter1111568.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/dexter1111568.jpg/)

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/8206/dexter1111570.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/dexter1111570.jpg/)

Season 2 - Episode 7
Same Door and hallway . Looks like Lila & Brian Moser were neighbors :lol
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2442/dexter2070201.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/dexter2070201.jpg/)

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2807/dexter2070202.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/dexter2070202.jpg/)

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4674/dexter2070203.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/dexter2070203.jpg/)

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9901/dexter2070218.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/dexter2070218.jpg/)

[Calcifer]

Wow! Nicely spotted Mike!! ..as you can see the surroundings are different, I really do believe the writers reused the door as an easter egg for the fans, if they were actually neighbors Dex would have mentioned it.

[Mr. EcKo]

Or they filmed both scenes in the same apartment complex 2 seasons apart

[Calcifer]

Or they filmed both scenes in the same apartment complex 2 seasons apart

Well yes that's basically what I'm saying, just reusing set pieces/locations, the actual characters in the show did not live in the same building.

[Mr. EcKo]

I know . lol

But we will never know if they were neighbors cuz they're both dead

[Calcifer]

But we will never know if they were neighbors cuz they're both dead

I will happily assume they were not because Dexter never mentioned it, but still nice one spotting that Mike, It's interesting if anything else.

[Droog Alex]

I will go back and check, but if Lila did live in the same building as Brian Dex would have mentioned it trough his inner dialog during that season.


They probably have reused set pieces, I really wouldn't bother reading into it to much.

Well yes that's basically what I'm saying, just reusing set pieces/locations, the actual characters in the show did not live in the same building.

:exactly: :hi5:

[great1]

If Debra and Dexter do kiss, I wonder if it will be similar to when Dexter thought about telling Deb that he was the Bay Harbour Butcher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqcomQsNQmE

[Calcifer]

Possible, but It would only turn into a joke scene that way, and I don't think there going to to that.

[die]

For the final episode of Dexter ever, they could have him put himself on the table and kill himself. That way, they could address the times that he has killed people outside of the code (like the photographer and the guy in the bathroom with the anchor)

technically, he's guilty according to his own code, so he can't let himself get away with murder. Surely, he doesn't think he's exempt from his own rules, that would make him such a hypocrite!!!!

:monkey4:cuckoo::nono

[Calcifer]

For the final episode of Dexter ever, they could have him put himself on the table and kill himself. That way, they could address the times that he has killed people outside of the code (like the photographer and the guy in the bathroom with the anchor)

technically, he's guilty according to his own code, so he can't let himself get away with murder. Surely, he doesn't think he's exempt from his own rules, that would make him such a hypocrite!!!!

:monkey4:cuckoo::nono

While not killers both of those guys were still scum, Dex would be better off continue killing those deserving rather the kill himself because of those two... o and lets not forget he killed Miguel's brother too.

[Droog Alex]

While not killers both of those guys were still scum, Dex would be better off continue killing those deserving rather the kill himself because of those two... o and lets not forget he killed Miguel's brother too.

What if... they just advance the show years later, and Harrison kills Dexter, part of the kid's code. What goes around, comes around...

HAHAHAH

[die]

While not killers both of those guys were still scum, Dex would be better off continue killing those deserving rather the kill himself because of those two... o and lets not forget he killed Miguel's brother too.

I didn't count Miguel's brother because he did try to kill Dexter with a knife, pretty much self-defense there. I thought people had to be "guilty" to fit the code, not just scum? This wan't my real idea for an ending though, I was just pointing out that from a writing standpoint, they've thrown in things that need some clarification or explaining of some sort as the seem out-of-character or out-of-context for what has been established.

as for an actual ending to the show....

-Dexter kills himself to save Harrison from knowing what his dad really is and then at the end we see Harrison standing by himself and as the camera pans around we see a bloody knife and a dead cat.

-Dexter has a showdown with the bad guy of the season and after he kills the bad guy and is on the boat dumping the body, he stops to look up at the full moon...and he remembers the getaway he and Rita had planned before she was killed...he begins to smile.... then Jonah jumps out from behind the cabin slicing Dexter's throat and he falls into the ocean sinking in the dark red water.

-Debra catches Dexter in the act of killing somebody...they have a moment where Debra tells him she's going to keep his secret and she'll help him. Quinn comes up, sees Dexter standing over Debra with a bloody knife and shoots and kills him thinking he was about to kill Debra.

-Louis The Intern discovers all Dexter's secrets and ends up locking Dexter & Harrison in a big storage container on the docks and cuts Dexter in pieces in front of Harrison....the end has Debra busting in and saving Harrison like Harry did Dexter.

- The Punisher kills Dexter.

[Droog Alex]

I didn't count Miguel's brother because he did try to kill Dexter with a knife, pretty much self-defense there. I thought people had to be "guilty" to fit the code, not just scum? This wan't my real idea for an ending though, I was just pointing out that from a writing standpoint, they've thrown in things that need some clarification or explaining of some sort as the seem out-of-character or out-of-context for what has been established.

as for an actual ending to the show....

-Dexter kills himself to save Harrison from knowing what his dad really is and then at the end we see Harrison standing by himself and as the camera pans around we see a bloody knife and a dead cat. PLEASE NO

-Dexter has a showdown with the bad guy of the season and after he kills the bad guy and is on the boat dumping the body, he stops to look up at the full moon...and he remembers the getaway he and Rita had planned before she was killed...he begins to smile.... then Jonah jumps out from behind the cabin slicing Dexter's throat and he falls into the ocean sinking in the dark red water. PLEASE NO - lord have mercy

-Debra catches Dexter in the act of killing somebody...they have a moment where Debra tells him she's going to keep his secret and she'll help him. Quinn comes up, sees Dexter standing over Debra with a bloody knife and shoots and kills him thinking he was about to kill Debra. PLEASE NO - KILL ME

-Louis The Intern discovers all Dexter's secrets and ends up locking Dexter & Harrison in a big storage container on the docks and cuts Dexter in pieces in front of Harrison....the end has Debra busting in and saving Harrison like Harry did Dexter. I LIKE

- The Punisher kills Dexter. PLEASE NO -- maybe A green Alien who is powered with cuban sandwiches


LOL -- answered above.

[Calcifer]

I really can't see Dexter being killed by another Killer, If he is going to die I think it's going to be in some sort of heroic fashion, either saving Deb/Harrison in the process.

I do like that idea you had of Harrison years later killing an animal.

[Dark Passenger]

I have no idea how to end the show. I'll leave it up to the writers so I can complain about it.

I do think he should be caught. I want Deb to know everything. From The Bay Harbor Butcher to Kyle Butler to The Vigilantes.

[DFanatic]

Ok,just came across this. Is that Harrison?

http://i.imgur.com/6ZLTM.jpg

[Ash Housewares]

Looks like it.

[Droog Alex]

Ok,just came across this. Is that Harrison?

http://i.imgur.com/6ZLTM.jpg

That's sick!!!! I love it!

[crows]

Ok,just came across this. Is that Harrison?

http://i.imgur.com/6ZLTM.jpg

that is just awesome!
specially Hanks Expression LOL :lol

[die]

dang!!! :thud:

I wasnt expecting that.

told ya he needs to send Harrison to stay with the grandparents~!!!! :cuckoo:

[Calcifer]

Dexter won't be happy!

[Dark Passenger]

Holy crap, that is great!

Didn't Dexter learn anything from Rita dying?

[crows]

For the ending of Dexter I think I would be okay if he dies, gets killed or something, But not by another serial Killer, because they might create a lame character, it would be epic if dexter died by the hands of someone like Trinity, but I really doubt that happening,

I also really hope Dexter doesn't get caught and people finding out,
I hope he would die and his secrets died with him,

I don't know what will happen but I think Dexter sacrificing himself for Harrison would be interesting,
I really don't know, I just think dexter being caught wouldn't be good,

[Calcifer]

For the ending of Dexter I think I would be okay if he dies, gets killed or something, But not by another serial Killer, because they might create a lame character, it would be epic if dexter died by the hands of someone like Trinity, but I really doubt that happening,

I also really hope Dexter doesn't get caught and people finding out,
I hope he would die and his secrets died with him,

I don't know what will happen but I think Dexter sacrificing himself for Harrison would be interesting,
I really don't know, I just think dexter being caught wouldn't be good,

:exactly:..but I don't agree with having him being killed by Jonah, that would be incredibly lame.

[crows]

:exactly:..but I don't agree with having him being killed by Jonah, that would be incredibly lame.

is like Imagine if Dexter was killed by Colin Hanks this season for example, how lame that would be, that's what I am afraid of, that they will introduce another killer (or the guy with the video game this season) and have that killer get dexter, that could be pretty lame,
Jonah would be the worst, that would be the lamest thing ever.

I also Pray they don't show Harrison killing an animal or something at the end because Harrison won't have the Code, I mean, I don't know, it seems almost obvious that they might try to do something like that,

[Droog Alex]

Harrison being slaughtered by one of these savages, whether this season or another would put Dexter into a whirlwind...

That could set up things nicely for his downfall. Cha-ching.

[Dark Passenger]

I think it would be awesome for Dexter to kill Travis savagely right in front of Harrison. Would be cool for Harrison to see what Dexter is at an early age. Like what he tried to prevent with the Tooth Fairy's son. The series could go anywhere from there.

[Calcifer]

I think it would be awesome for Dexter to kill Travis savagely right in front of Harrison. Would be cool for Harrison to see what Dexter is at an early age. Like what he tried to prevent with the Tooth Fairy's son. The series could go anywhere from there.

Oooo I really like that idea! :goodpost:

[crows]

Harrison being slaughtered by one of these savages, whether this season or another would put Dexter into a whirlwind...

That could set up things nicely for his downfall. Cha-ching.

you're talking about killing Baby Harrison?

That would be Cruel and dark and...great, I mean, that would be the most terrible thing that could happen, and it would bring emotions out Dexter thought he was not capable of having, I mean, That could put Dexter in an unstopabble journey into darkness, I could see him becoming crazy, letting go, which we have not really see him do, like ever...

but I don't know if people (the audience) would accept that, I could see the complains already,
still, that would certainly turn everything on its head... never thought about that..

I think it would be awesome for Dexter to kill Travis savagely right in front of Harrison. Would be cool for Harrison to see what Dexter is at an early age. Like what he tried to prevent with the Tooth Fairy's son. The series could go anywhere from there.

This could be good too, but like, where would this go? Harrison becoming Like Dexter, That could mean Dexter starts to teach Harrison the Code and having time pass or something? I don't know, I don't know about Harrison seeing Dexter kill because again, Harrison would be like Dexter without the code...

[Droog Alex]

you're talking about killing Baby Harrison?

That would be Cruel and dark and...great, I mean, that would be the most terrible thing that could happen, and it would bring emotions out Dexter thought he was not capable of having, I mean, That could put Dexter in an unstopabble journey into darkness, I could see him becoming crazy, letting go, which we have not really see him do, like ever...

but I don't know if people (the audience) would accept that, I could see the complains already,
still, that would certainly turn everything on its head... never thought about that..

Travis, killing, sacrificing Harrison... in some ritual, would enrage Dexter, his dark passenger, a man who everything he loved...

Rita, taken from him.
His only son...take from him.

He thought he could protect his family during the Trinity season... it did not work.
He thought he could shelter Harrison... he couldnt.

Would set up an amazing psychological component that could derail his obvious, meticulous work...

Then, from there, Deb can find out more about him, as his dark passenger turns into a fury that leaves him exposed a tad more, slipping and as the sis finds out, does she think he is a victim of his recent and past mishappenings in life (born into blood, Harrison born into blood, Harrison dying...), or does she realize and finds out that he has been a monster his whole life?

BANG!

[Calcifer]

I rally can't see them killing off a little child, as interesting as the result may be.

[crows]

Travis, killing, sacrificing Harrison... in some ritual, would enrage Dexter, his dark passenger, a man who everything he loved...

Rita, taken from him.
His only son...take from him.

He thought he could protect his family during the Trinity season... it did not work.
He thought he could shelter Harrison... he couldnt.

Would set up an amazing psychological component that could derail his obvious, meticulous work...

Then, from there, Deb can find out more about him, as his dark passenger turns into a fury that leaves him exposed a tad more, slipping and as the sis finds out, does she think he is a victim of his recent and past mishappenings in life (born into blood, Harrison born into blood, Harrison dying...), or does she realize and finds out that he has been a monster his whole life?

BANG!

I rally can't see them killing of a little child, as interesting as the result may be.

I know Droog Alex That would be, wow, I could see dexter starting to not care about faking human emotion, I could see him being mean to the people around him, everyone starting to see the real Dexter, maybe Dexter not caring about anything anymore but killing, maybe even forgetting about the Code

but yeah, I could see this turning into a ****storm, if they killed the boy I could see people protesting the show and people sending letters to Showtime.... could be a mess :monkey1

it would no doubt be really interesting, but I think it would be too dark Even for Dexter (the show)

[Droog Alex]

I know Droog Alex That would be, wow, I could see dexter starting to not care about faking human emotion, I could see him being mean to the people around him, everyone starting to see the real Dexter, maybe Dexter not caring about anything anymore but killing, maybe even forgetting about the Code

but yeah, I could see this turning into a ****storm, if they killed the boy I could see people protesting the show and people sending letters to Showtime.... could be a mess :monkey1

it would no doubt be really interesting, but I think it would be too dark Even for Dexter (the show)

The world is a dark place. Kids die everyday... and in Miami, apparently, per the show, there's a new serial killer on the prowl eveyr year. :dunno

And not necessarily, was i implying that, " I could see him being mean to the people around him, everyone starting to see the real Dexter, maybe Dexter not caring about anything anymore but killing, maybe even forgetting about the Code" as blackmask stated...

It's more like, with with all the themes especially explored, how would Dexter cope, how would others try to cope with him, and he could co-exist with a life of tragedy, yet he still has all these urges and the innate feeling of wanting to feed his dark passenger...

How now, more than ever, he is more "human," losing a wife he LOVED - something he maybe has said once on the show - and now, losing the most cherished thing he has ever had... HIS SON.

If special interest group and/or the public protest a child dying on a show, we should just end civilization now. Seriously, it's time these networks, radio personalities, et., say F-U to these dopes with letter-heads, who think they can protest anything they want, based on their level of offended-ness.

Seriously, its a pay-channel, that you have to seek Showtime, a highly rated show and one that its in what season already? If people get offended now, after all the killings, the portrayals of priest, and many other monsters that have appeared, and the fact that there is a man killing/vigilante...

C'mon.

[Morbach]

that's just ____ed up if they kill little Harrison :lol

[Dark Passenger]

that's just ____ed up if they kill little Harrison :lol

Would it be better if Harrison was a zombie? :dunno

[Morbach]

Would it be better if Harrison was a zombie? :dunno

why would he be a zombie?

[Droog Alex]

that's just ____ed up if they kill little Harrison :lol

Yeah, and it wasnt f'ed up that they killed his mommy, while he was there, and left him in her own pool of blood. Yeah -- limits people, we need limits...

:dunno

[Dark Passenger]

why would he be a zombie?

It's acceptable to kill a kid if he/she is a zombie.

[Morbach]

Yeah, and it wasnt f'ed up that they killed his mommy, while he was there, and left him in her own pool of blood. Yeah -- limits people, we need limits...

:dunno

wow dude. relax.

[Droog Alex]

wow dude. relax.

I'm relaxed... we are just talkin'. Maybe you should relax...LOL. No one is pissed, angry, mad... I know it's hard determining emotions via a board, unless you use emoticons, but no need for the 'relax' comment. I'm chill...

[Morbach]

I'm relaxed... we are just talkin'. Maybe you should relax...LOL. No one is pissed, angry, mad... I know it's hard determining emotions via a board, unless you use emoticons, but no need for the 'relax' comment. I'm chill...

I thought you were kinda snapping on me :lol It's cool, I gotchu.

[Droog Alex]

I thought you were kinda snapping on me :lol It's cool, I gotchu.

Wasnt at all... if anything, I thought I was obvious with my sarcastic, "Yeah -- limits people, we need limits..." comment. :rotfl

[Calcifer]

Yeah, and it wasnt f'ed up that they killed his mommy, while he was there, and left him in her own pool of blood. Yeah -- limits people, we need limits...

:dunno


It wasn't that ____ed up!:dunno ..an epic end to the season yes but nothing we are not used to seeing:dunno, Harrison being killed off is completely different, he is a little kid for crying out load! Killing off a child would be a first for the series and I frankly think It would be too dark.

..and personally If it did happen and Dex did go off the wall as a result, I don't think I'd enjoy watching him like that for the next season, I want to see dex back on his game he's been seriously sloppy the last two seasons.

[Droog Alex]

It wasn't that ____ed up!:dunno ..an epic end to the season yes but nothing we are not used to seeing:dunno, Harrison being killed off is completely different, he is a little kid for crying out load! Killing off a child would be a first for the series and I frankly think It would be too dark.

Season 1 -- Mike Donovan
He raped and killed young children.

Victim's last words: "I couldn't help myself, I couldn't please you have to understand"

Season 2 -- Roger Hicks
He raped and killed them out of a general hatred for women.

Season 2 - Santos Jimenez
He killed Dexter's mother in front of Dexter and his brother

Season 3 -- Nathan Marten
Dexter kills him because he feels that this man threatens "his children" (a first for Dexter).
Dexter's last words to victim: His thoughts "but maybe there is another code a code that says you've stepped uninvited into my world..and that's a place where I decide who gets to live and who doesn't" ThenTo Nathan- "I am not like you"

Season 4 -- Benito "Benny" Gomez
He bludgeoned a man to death in front of his son. Beat his girlfriend to death.

Season 4 -- ZOEY KRUGER
She faked a home invasion so that she could kill her husband and daughter; she framed drug dealer, Darius Rey, who later died under fishy circumstances.

Dexter's last words to victim: "I don't want to lose them.. i don't.. thats the difference between us!"

Season 4 -- Arthur Mitchell, AKA: The Trinity Killer
Killed Always a boy then a woman and then another woman finished with a man always in the same fashion

Among many of the OK reasons to kill, on a cable TV show, you have to pay extra for, that if you are watching already... and still not offended, well then... I dunno. Tune out. LOL. :lol

[Calcifer]

Season 1 -- Mike Donovan
He raped and killed young children.

Victim's last words: "I couldn't help myself, I couldn't please you have to understand"

Season 2 -- Roger Hicks
He raped and killed them out of a general hatred for women.

Season 2 - Santos Jimenez
He killed Dexter's mother in front of Dexter and his brother

Season 3 -- Nathan Marten
Dexter kills him because he feels that this man threatens "his children" (a first for Dexter).
Dexter's last words to victim: His thoughts "but maybe there is another code a code that says you've stepped uninvited into my world..and that's a place where I decide who gets to live and who doesn't" ThenTo Nathan- "I am not like you"

Season 4 -- Benito "Benny" Gomez
He bludgeoned a man to death in front of his son. Beat his girlfriend to death.

Season 4 -- ZOEY KRUGER
She faked a home invasion so that she could kill her husband and daughter; she framed drug dealer, Darius Rey, who later died under fishy circumstances.

Dexter's last words to victim: "I don't want to lose them.. i don't.. thats the difference between us!"

Season 4 -- Arthur Mitchell, AKA: The Trinity Killer
Killed Always a boy then a woman and then another woman finished with a man always in the same fashion

Among many of the OK reasons to kill, on a cable TV show, you have to pay extra for, that if you are watching already... and still not offended, well then... I dunno. Tune out. LOL. :lol



I am aware of all of those kills thank you very much! :D Now just to be clear my only problem here is with the killing of children, yes we have heard of children being killed in the show and there was a shot of some child corpses in the first episode but the difference with Harrison is that he is a series regular, a little kid who we have watched being told bed time stories, having fun in the playground etc, killing him off still seems wrong to me even after seeing many of the horrible things the show has done so far.

[Droog Alex]

You said...Killing off a child would be a first for the series and I frankly think It would be too dark.
One of your points, and combated that...

Then, you say personally, my only problem here is with the killing of children

Why?

Because:he is a series regular, a little kid who we have watched being told bed time stories, having fun in the playground etc

And it would effect YOU! It wouldn't me, and many others.

But lets not act like children have not been done harm in this show, whether implied, or actually shown (i.e corpses, Trinity burying some kid et).

It has happened... And quite frankly, if it does again, so be it. I won't be offended. All I can say to people like that is: "dont watch."

Or, "tune it off...," "don't support," instead of paying monthly for Showtime, willingly, tuning in every Sunday, willingly and actively seeking for shows like this.

Now, all of this is moot, especially if it doesnt happen. LOL. But, lets not be hypocritical here and act like there has not been a precedent or that it's sooooo morally wrong to this (kill off Harrison), or do harm to children on the show, when it's happened in the past and no one has batted an eye. It doesnt make it wrong just because HE is a "regular" or we've seen him go to bed. It is more shocking, yes. And more effecting to the audience because of the connection, but all the more reason why it would be so polarizing and very effective in trying to show a human side of Dexter, something this show has centered around, one of the many vital elements the writers have tried to surround the man with the dark passenger with.

[pixletwin]

It makes no narrative sense whatsoever that Dexter go off the deep end like that. It makes no narrative sense to kill Harrison. In fact, it sounded so much like fan-fiction written by a 14 year old that it made me laugh. :lol

[Droog Alex]

It makes no narrative sense whatsoever that Dexter go off the deep end like that. It makes no narrative sense to kill Harrison. In fact, it sounded so much like fan-fiction written by a 14 year old that it made me laugh. :lol

Just like a lot of the writing on the series... LOL. Most of it brilliant, some very hacky. 'Cause we all know, everything ever put down on paper for this show has always been on point. LOL. :rotfl

[pixletwin]

Just like a lot of the writing on the series... LOL. Most of it brilliant, some very hacky. 'Cause we all know, everything ever put down on paper for this show has always been on point. LOL. :rotfl

Touche. :lecture

[Calcifer]

Now, all of this is moot, especially if it doesnt happen. LOL. But, lets not be hypocritical here and act like there has not been a precedent or that it's sooooo morally wrong to this (kill off Harrison), or do harm to children on the show, when it's happened in the past and no one has batted an eye. It doesnt make it wrong just because HE is a "regular" or we've seen him go to bed. It is more shocking, yes. And more effecting to the audience because of the connection, but all the more reason why it would be so polarizing and very effective in trying to show a human side of Dexter, something this show has centered around, one of the many vital elements the writers have tried to surround the man with the dark passenger with.

Believe me, killing him off and how Dexter would react would be very interesting,wouldn't be a fan of him loosing the plot over it altogether and abandoning the code,but it certainly would hit him on another level then the Death of Rita.

and I must clarify, when i said the killing of a child would be the first for the series , I meant as in one of the main child actors, that being Harrison the only child currently in the show.

I don't see Travis surviving past the end of this season( nor do I want him to as his Character isn't great), but wouldn't it be cool if Harrison remained abducted for the course of the next season, that would ____ with Dexter! the not knowing factor of it

[Droog Alex]

Believe me, killing him off and how Dexter would react would be very interesting,wouldn't be a fan of him loosing the plot over it altogether and abandoning the code,but it certainly would hit him on another level then the Death of Rita.

and I must clarify, when i said the killing of a child would be the first for the series , I meant as in one of the main child actors, that being Harrison the only child currently in the show.

I don't see Travis surviving past the end of this season( nor do I want him to as his Character isn't great), but wouldn't it be cool if Harrison remained abducted for the course of the next season, that would ____ with Dexter! the not knowing factor of it
Agreed...

it surely will blast him emotionally, yes, even on another level, then Rita's death. Just a human element that you have to wonder about Dexter, and how the writers could portray that...

:monkey3

[crows]

It makes no narrative sense whatsoever that Dexter go off the deep end like that. It makes no narrative sense to kill Harrison. In fact, it sounded so much like fan-fiction written by a 14 year old that it made me laugh. :lol

oh you mean like Dexter having sex with a random girl and shooting a gun at billboards while yelling like a lunatic.. :wink1:


anyway, this is just some thinking about what could happen here, it would be interesting, I mean ,the only thing Dexter has left is his son, the show is ending, they are going to have to do something, and Deb finding out about Dexter and Dexter being hunted down or something sounds kinda boring to me actually, I hope the writers will come up with something interesting, but by seeing how this season turned up, I am not holding my breath on something interesting, I just hope they at least don't do something over the top or ridiculous,
what I mean is, I hope the ending is at least decent...

[Droog Alex]

oh you mean like Dexter having sex with a random girl and shooting a gun at billboards while yelling like a lunatic.. :wink1:


anyway, this is just some thinking about what could happen here, it would be interesting, I mean ,the only thing Dexter has left is his son, the show is ending, they are going to have to do something, and Deb finding out about Dexter and Dexter being hunted down or something sounds kinda boring to me actually, I hope the writers will come up with something interesting, but by seeing how this season turned up, I am not holding my breath on something interesting, I just hope they at least don't do something over the top or ridiculous,
what I mean is, I hope the ending is at least decent...

Great post!

Oh, and if there is a 'man-hunt' for Dexter, forget it.... that would be the ultimate hack storyline.

[die]

I think one of the main themes that has developed in Dexter is "How will Harrison turn out?"

I think that's an interesting notion and they've invested alot into that with the conversations with Harry, Dexter having visions of how Harrison will be and the whole Harrison being "born in blood" like his dad. I think killing Harrison off would be a mistake, personally.

I think ultimately there needs to be an ending where fans get an idea of what Harrison will become. Even if the final season has Dexter somewhat taking on a "Harry" type of role with a young Harrison (possibly recognizing a dark passenger in him) it would be better than just killing him off. I think it would be hard to have 2 more seasons of Dexter being the guy who's had this many people close to him murdered in seperate events.

[Morbach]

If the series ends with Harrison grown up a few years down the line and the camera pans over to Dexter (who's dead) and you see how he's Harrison's Harry. I think that would be awesome.

[crows]

I think one of the main themes that has developed in Dexter is "How will Harrison turn out?"

I think that's an interesting notion and they've invested alot into that with the conversations with Harry, Dexter having visions of how Harrison will be and the whole Harrison being "born in blood" like his dad. I think killing Harrison off would be a mistake, personally.

I think ultimately there needs to be an ending where fans get an idea of what Harrison will become. Even if the final season has Dexter somewhat taking on a "Harry" type of role with a young Harrison (possibly recognizing a dark passenger in him) it would be better than just killing him off. I think it would be hard to have 2 more seasons of Dexter being the guy who's had this many people close to him murdered in seperate events.

If the series ends with Harrison grown up a few years down the line and the camera pans over to Dexter (who's dead) and you see how he's Harrison's Harry. I think that would be awesome.

I thought about this first, about Dexter Becoming like Harry teaching Harrison, but, the only problem I see is having to fast forward in time like that, I Guess they could leave that to the last episode?
I mean, I am not a big fan of when shows or movies do the whole "8 Years later" type of thing in movies, maybe it would work here,
but I do agree seeing Harrison learning the code would be really interesting, there is a lot to work with it seems, a lot of ways they could take the show, some interesting and some lame, it depends if they want to go to go for a safe ending or a risky ending, it could go either way,


what If the writers make Deb finding out about Dexter but then she accepts him, and at the end we see Dexter getting killed and then Deb teaching the Code to Harrison lol :lol

[Droog Alex]

I thought about this first, about Dexter Becoming like Harry teaching Harrison, but, the only problem I see is having to fast forward in time like that, I Guess they could leave that to the last episode?
I mean, I am not a big fan of when shows or movies do the whole "8 Years later" type of thing in movies, maybe it would work here,
but I do agree seeing Harrison learning the code would be really interesting,


what If the writers make Deb finding out about Dexter but then she accepts him, and at the end we see Dexter getting killed and then Deb teaching the Code to Harrison lol :lol
All this is cool... but what are the chances Harrison ends up with the same tendencies Dexter had as a kid growing up? It's not a chronic gene like a diabetic one, or a some other physiological happening. I find it kind of dopey to continue the cycle...

Unless, Harrison finds out, years later about his dad...but then what? He then decides to pick-u[ his daddy's habits based on... what? It being cool? It gets rather silly...

So, unless they show Harrison years later developing those same tendencies, it's silly to think that Dexter will mentor his boy.

Especially since Dexter the last few seasons has been worried about his lil' boy developing the dark passenger. That's one of the things that goes on in Dexter's morbid mind and that will always haunt him... whether his boy will just be typically developing without those maddening impulsions. And that should haunt him forever...

Part of Dex's psychological profile and part of his problems.

[Calcifer]

All this is cool... but what are the chances Harrison ends up with the same tendencies Dexter had as a kid growing up? It's not a chronic gene like a diabetic one, or a some other physiological happening. I find it kind of dopey to continue the cycle...



I think people are only assuming it might happen as is Dexter himself due to the fact Harrison witnessed a horrific scene as a baby like Dexter did himself when he was a child and the similar circumstances may result in Harrison developing a dark passenger of his own . I personally never was a fan of this idea the show had that a traumatic event can turn someone into a serial killer, the way I see it your either born that way or not.

[Droog Alex]

I think people are only assuming it might happen as is Dexter himself due to the fact Harrison witnessed a horrific scene as a baby like Dexter did himself when he was a child and the similar circumstances may result in Harrison developing a dark passenger of his own . I personally never was a fan of this idea the show had that a traumatic event can turn someone into a serial killer, the way I see it your either born that way or not.

:hi5:




.....

[crows]

All this is cool... but what are the chances Harrison ends up with the same tendencies Dexter had as a kid growing up? It's not a chronic gene like a diabetic one, or a some other physiological happening. I find it kind of dopey to continue the cycle...

Unless, Harrison finds out, years later about his dad...but then what? He then decides to pick-u[ his daddy's habits based on... what? It being cool? It gets rather silly...

So, unless they show Harrison years later developing those same tendencies, it's silly to think that Dexter will mentor his boy.

Especially since Dexter the last few seasons has been worried about his lil' boy developing the dark passenger. That's one of the things that goes on in Dexter's morbid mind and that will always haunt him... whether his boy will just be typically developing without those maddening impulsions. And that should haunt him forever...

Part of Dex's psychological profile and part of his problems.

I think people are only assuming it might happen as is Dexter himself due to the fact Harrison witnessed a horrific scene as a baby like Dexter did himself when he was a child and the similar circumstances may result in Harrison developing a dark passenger of his own . I personally never was a fan of this idea the show had that a traumatic event can turn someone into a serial killer, the way I see it your either born that way or not.

well there is also the Ice Truck Killer, don't forget, but he was too old to help, the whole reason Harry couldn't help him no?

I guess there is a precedent that since they are so little, and witnessed something so horrific, it just damages them? I mean, that's why the idea of Harrison becoming like Dexter, not only that but Dexter behavior could also influence him, he is Dexter's son after all I mean, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"
Im not saying that's what i want to happen, but i could see why it could happen, is not as bad as it seems

[Calcifer]

well there is also the Ice Truck Killer, don't forget, but he was too old to help, the whole reason Harry couldn't help him no?
I guess there is a precedent that since they are so little, and witnessed something so horrific, it just damages them?

Sure it is possible for an event such as the one dex and Brian witnessed could damage someone so mentally they could become a serial killer but the fact both those kids became serial killers and dexter fearing his son may become one due to a similar event is ridiculous IMO, I'd say in reality it's far more likely victims of such horrors would do the opposite and actually fear blood/death/violence even more,rather then become a serial killer!:cuckoo:

..and Brian could have turned out fine and could have been guided by the code too, but Harry was just a ____ and assumed the kid was beyond saving.

[Blood Electricity]

I think debra could probably die and it could get pinned on dexter. Then all his secrets come undone and he has to flee. Then at the end of the show you see that debra was just under scarecrow's fear gas and that everything is actually back to normal.

[Droog Alex]

I think debra could probably die and it could get pinned on dexter. Then all his secrets come undone and he has to flee. Then at the end of the show you see that debra was just under scarecrow's fear gas and that everything is actually back to normal.

:rotfl :rotfl

[Mr. EcKo]

WTF!!!!!!!!!!

[die]

WTF!!!!!!!!!!

exactly.:thud:

I told my wife before the show started tonight that I think they might go with a romantic thing between Debra & Dexter and she said "and I'll quit watching it" :rotfl

Rack up another "quick and easy escape" for Dexter from the burning ring of fire or if you're an Xbox owner: The Red Ring of Death.

Travis Marshall did some Bond Villain style deathtrapping in this one!!!

[Morbach]

GOOD EPISODE

[crows]

It's OK for a sister to love her brother, they have a long way to go before it's incest

They aren't hooking up you sickos.

They are setting up her love for her brother so that when the time comes for her to choose turning him as a killer or letting him go, it is more dramatic.

Twisted people here, I tell ya.

exactly.:thud:

I told my wife before the show started tonight that I think they might go with a romantic thing between Debra & Dexter and she said "and I'll quit watching it" :rotfl

Rack up another "quick and easy escape" for Dexter from the burning ring of fire or if you're an Xbox owner: The Red Ring of Death.

Travis Marshall did some Bond Villain style deathtrapping in this one!!!
http://i.imgur.com/JnTVo.gif



lol it was a good episode indeed, It makes me hopeful for the other season actually

[Droog Alex]

HAHAHA -- LOL at those that were like, "no way they are hooking up or implying that...," HAHAHHAA.

When they were playing that angle, and Deb's dream, I was laughing hysterically. It was so corny.

To summarize episode:
1. They are setting up the next season IMO with the collector, and his delivery of the 'hand' for some future storyline...
I don't care where it goes at this point, it looks interesting.

2. The ending was hack and just dopey. A ring of fire, Dexter was all tied, ready to be blown to bits, and AGAIN, like a super-hero, he escapes. It's one of those WTF moments that you have to suspend reality and just say...,"Geez!"

Either you dispose of him (which wont happen, clearly), or, don't set that up like that. Dexter is pinned there -- has the effects of the gas, Travis couldve done what he pleased with him, yet... that's what happens? Ok, Superman... Dexter. Writing fail there - dont do that again. It's not a Marvel or DC comic book.

3. YESSSS -- danger to Harrison. And Travis going after the beasts' son. I LOVE IT. Dexter and his human emotions will surely be exposed and his LOVE will be out for the world to see as his son is on the verge of God knows what.

[crows]

HAHAHA -- LOL at those that were like, "no way they are hooking up or implying that...," HAHAHHAA.

When they were playing that angle, and Deb's dream, I was laughing hysterically. It was so corny.

To summarize episode:
1. They are setting up the next season IMO with the collector, and his delivery of the 'hand' for some future storyline...
I don't care where it goes at this point, it looks interesting.

2. The ending was hack and just dopey. A ring of fire, Dexter was all tied, ready to be blown to bits, and AGAIN, like a super-hero, he escapes. It's one of those WTF moments that you have to suspend reality and just say...,"Geez!"

Either you dispose of him (which wont happen, clearly), or, don't set that up like that. Dexter is pinned there -- has the effects of the gas, Travis couldve done what he pleased with him, yet... that's what happens? Ok, Superman... Dexter. Writing fail there - dont do that again. It's not a Marvel or DC comic book.

3. YESSSS -- danger to Harrison. And Travis going after the beasts' son. I LOVE IT. Dexter and his human emotions will surely be exposed and his LOVE will be out for the world to see as his son is on the verge of God knows what.

:hi5: :wave

LOL I know, hahaha, is funny everything some of us were discussing about the romantic angle and Harrison being in danger was being set up lol, I know Harrison will not be killed but what if he is kidnapped by someone, that would be just as bad,

about Deb's dream, I actually found the pic of their "encounter" online LOL,

This just got good,

I Hated the ending, They set it up perfectly, Travis came, Dexter got dizzy, Travis overpowered him, All Up to the point Dexter faints, I was excited, like something good might happen...
then Travis acts like a Bond Villain and leaves Dexter to die without even staying to see....
and Dexter uses magic to escape.... They could have set up something else, something that made it seem more of a treat to Dexter, I don't know, the ring of fire felt really stupid actually :pfft:

[SwedishHeat]

So, next week is the finale, and I couldn't care less. It seems like by this point in previous seasons they've always ramped up the tension to the point where you can't wait for next week's ep. Now, I just don't care.

I guffawed at Dexter's face in the painting. It was just so silly. Like Travis gets so pissed at Dexter he takes the time to paint his face over it. I've never heard of someone rage-painting before. "Oh, that Dexter pisses me off so much, I'm going to paint this photo-realistic image of him on Satan's body, grrrr."

I remember at the beginning, Scott Buck was kinda like "I've been with the show since Season 2, so I know what makes Dexter tick." Obviously he does not.

[crows]

So, next week is the finale, and I couldn't care less. It seems like by this point in previous seasons they've always ramped up the tension to the point where you can't wait for next week's ep. Now, I just don't care.

I guffawed at Dexter's face in the painting. It was just so silly. Like Travis gets so pissed at Dexter he takes the time to paint his face over it. I've never heard of someone rage-painting before. "Oh, that Dexter pisses me off so much, I'm going to paint this photo-realistic image of him on Satan's body, grrrr."

I remember at the beginning, Scott Buck was kinda like "I've been with the show since Season 2, so I know what makes Dexter tick." Obviously he does not.

:rotfl LOL that made me laugh,
I said it before yeah, I agree, this season feels like the worst season to me, worst than season 5,
But this episode makes me a little hopeful for next season, Doomsday Killer might be one of Dexter's Lamest killers he had to deal with,

I really hope they bring their game up for next two seasons :dunno

[Mr. EcKo]

Well to sum up how i feel about this season will be simple....


I'm excited and let down angry at the same time




so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otm4RusESNU

[freestylex06x]

i cannot believe the incompetence in writing this season. wow...i actually forgot to tune in to watch today and after i just saw it now, i don't regret it.

[cokebabies]

This show has always had a low opinion of its audience's ability to notice details and plot points. Hence, everything being explained to the audience. But the foreshadowing of Dexter's side effects coming back "after exerting himself wink wink wink pay attention!!!!!" was so heavy handed. As soon as it was mentioned, I thought "well, he's going to get the jump on Travis and get dizzy."

[noisetrigger]

I guess the show has finally jumped the shark...or ring of fire...

[cokebabies]

The ring of fire reminded me of the opening of Bioshock.

[crows]

i cannot believe the incompetence in writing this season. wow...i actually forgot to tune in to watch today and after i just saw it now, i don't regret it.


.... I know, wtf? seriously, why? why is it so bad this season though?
Im still feeling a little hopeful but, if the last two seasons will be handled the way this season was,
we could be looking at the worst ending of a series ever... maybe :monkey3

[Darth Caedus]

This show has always had a low opinion of its audience's ability to notice details and plot points. Hence, everything being explained to the audience. But the foreshadowing of Dexter's side effects coming back "after exerting himself wink wink wink pay attention!!!!!" was so heavy handed. As soon as it was mentioned, I thought "well, he's going to get the jump on Travis and get dizzy."

Yep, even a 5 year old could have deduced that that was going to happen....:slap:slap:slap:gah:

The ring of fire reminded me of the opening of Bioshock.

SAME !!!! :lol

[freestylex06x]

travis has to be the worst villain of the series so far. i think it is a combination of the character himself and colin hanks' weak acting skills. it would have been better to switch to the video game guy as the main villain this season.

[Giant Chicken]

The only thing that I am interested in is the Ice Truck Killer hand. Everything else is just blah!!!! I think I have been upsetting the guys I watch the show with because of all my negative comments throughout the show. I will do my best to be quiet during the finale.

[Dark Passenger]

Ugh. The only thing I care about is what is going on with Louis and the hand. Why did he mail it to Dexter?

This series could have been 3 episodes. The Nebraska one, and then 2 episodes with Louis buying the hand and mailing it and then whatever happens with it.

Ugh.

Travis taking Harrison looks cool though but I honestly don't care what happens to Harrison or Travis.


Oh, and Laguerta is a piece of ____.

[Droog Alex]

:hi5: :wave

LOL I know, hahaha, is funny everything some of us were discussing about the romantic angle and Harrison being in danger was being set up lol, I know Harrison will not be killed but what if he is kidnapped by someone, that would be just as bad,

about Deb's dream, I actually found the pic of their "encounter" online LOL,

This just got good,

I Hated the ending, They set it up perfectly, Travis came, Dexter got dizzy, Travis overpowered him, All Up to the point Dexter faints, I was excited, like something good might happen...
then Travis acts like a Bond Villain and leaves Dexter to die without even staying to see....
and Dexter uses magic to escape.... They could have set up something else, something that made it seem more of a treat to Dexter, I don't know, the ring of fire felt really stupid actually :pfft:

:goodpost:

So, next week is the finale, and I couldn't care less. It seems like by this point in previous seasons they've always ramped up the tension to the point where you can't wait for next week's ep. Now, I just don't care.

I guffawed at Dexter's face in the painting. It was just so silly. Like Travis gets so pissed at Dexter he takes the time to paint his face over it. I've never heard of someone rage-painting before. "Oh, that Dexter pisses me off so much, I'm going to paint this photo-realistic image of him on Satan's body, grrrr."

I remember at the beginning, Scott Buck was kinda like "I've been with the show since Season 2, so I know what makes Dexter tick." Obviously he does not.


:goodpost:
I guess the show has finally jumped the shark...or ring of fire...
:goodpost:
Ugh. The only thing I care about is what is going on with Louis and the hand. Why did he mail it to Dexter?

This series could have been 3 episodes. The Nebraska one, and then 2 episodes with Louis buying the hand and mailing it and then whatever happens with it.

Ugh.

Travis taking Harrison looks cool though but I honestly don't care what happens to Harrison or Travis.


Oh, and Laguerta is a piece of ____.

Agreed.:goodpost: Although the Nebraska was not that great and only good because of 'biney.' Otherwise, it was ok, out of place and really... :dunno

I really hope Travis takes Harrison's life. Dexter will then have two people close to him... wiped.

That sets up next season with Deb, their love et., and how he said, "I'll never let anything happen to you," more effective. Either for her death, or she finds out about the passenger, or both. Then, Dex's life, even with feeding this inside of him, will always be somewhat jinxed by those around him dying.

[Dark Passenger]

That sets up next season with Deb, their love et., and how he said, "I'll never let anything happen to you," more effective. Either for her death, or she finds out about the passenger, or both. Then, Dex's life, even with feeding this inside of him, will always be somewhat jinxed by those around him dying.

Wasn't that part of her dream?

[Droog Alex]

Wasn't that part of her dream?

LOL -- wasnt that when they were outside after Wormwood? Ok... my mistake if it wasnt.

That dream - boy, was that hacky. Dex sitting there, eating, looking like he wanted some poontang from Deb -- :rotfl

The irony; just a few seasons back, they had one of the greatest moments in a dream sequence, Dex telling Deb he was the BHB, and years later, he is wanting a kiss... :gah: :rotfl

[die]

The biggest problem this season has been the lack of surprise due to holding the audience's hand to the "twist".

Like with Gellar... If they would've did it correctly, it could've been a nice twist and caught alot of people off guard. For instance, the scene where Gellar and Travis are out at the club (first off, they shouldn't have been partying lol)....if they would've just had a moment where they saw his face in the paper while out in the streets and Gellar decides he needs to lay low so he isn't spotted, they would've had a reason for him just to stay in the church for the rest of the season and later easily explained him as being in Travis' head. But, they had to have all those giveaway scenes with the 1 coffee cup and the girl that was tied up saying she only saw one guy, etc. Spoiled it... totally.

or with Louis The Diabolical Intern Collector (L-DIC), they spoiled that by showing "his hand" too soon. It made no sense to show the ITK hand on his shelf episodes ago. Last night, think about how much more hard-hitting it would've been to see him with that hand if it was totally unexpected? Why'd they reveal he had ulterior motives so early? Shoulda just built him up as the harmless nerd and then revealed his motives last night for the first time. That could've been a truly great moment.

The Deb thing could've been much smoother, perhaps the audience could be led along better if they didn't do it so cheesily and from out-of-nowhere. The dream sequence was the worst part of last night's show, it topped the Ring of Fire for me, actually. Looks like Deb will be infatuated with Dexter and Dexter will resist, then eventually give=in, blah-blah-blah - GOD I HOPE NOT.


All Hanks Jr. needed to say in the boating fire scene was "No Mr. Morgan, I expect you to die" as he drove off. First off, it was a bad idea...they should've just had somebody pull up and scare Travis away or something while Dexter was TKO'd from the injection. Second, there are too many 5 second easy escapes from death for Dexter. Maybe if they would've had Dexter use the fire to burn through the ropes or something, I'd maybe buy it.


I'm looking forward to Episode 12 hoping they can make all this make sense and win me over for 2 more seasons. This could've been a much better season, that's what hurts the most.

[Droog Alex]

or with Louis The Diabolical Intern Collector (L-DIC), they spoiled that by showing "his hand" too soon. It made no sense to show the ITK hand on his shelf episodes ago. Last night, think about how much more hard-hitting it would've been to see him with that hand if it was totally unexpected? Why'd they reveal he had ulterior motives so early? Shoulda just built him up as the harmless nerd and then revealed his motives last night for the first time. That could've been a truly great moment.

Great posting!!!

[guyverfan]

I've been a fan of the series since episode 1 of season 1 but I think it's definitely jumped the shark. Season 4 was as good as it was going to get. Dexter used to be so meticulous and planned everything out but now he's just so off the cuff with everything. I used to wait for Sunday nights to see what was going to happen, now I more or less watch Dexter waiting for Homeland to come on. I'm seriously waiting for someone to off Laguerta though....I hope she dies in a bad way.

[Droog Alex]

I'm seriously waiting for someone to off Laguerta though....I hope she dies in a bad way.

The writers know how much the fan-base hates her... all the more reason why I think they'll never kill her off.

[darthviper107]

The thing with the fire--I wondered why Travis kept Dexter alive when he was coming there with a gun, obviously just to kill him. If he was planing all along to use him for the last thing then it should have been made clear he didn't want to kill him right away.

Plus it was too obvious Dexter would just jump into the water. Although I think with an explosion he would have been too close and the shockwave would have knocked him out, or at least caused another bloody nose.

[Droog Alex]

The thing with the fire--I wondered why Travis kept Dexter alive when he was coming there with a gun, obviously just to kill him. If he was planing all along to use him for the last thing then it should have been made clear he didn't want to kill him right away.

Plus it was too obvious Dexter would just jump into the water. Although I think with an explosion he would have been too close and the shockwave would have knocked him out, or at least caused another bloody nose.

:exactly: :lecture

I'm convinced... the season will end with Dex and his tights on, flying around Miami, swooping down to Joe's Stone Crabs, eating a bunch of those and a key-lime pie and then saving the state from another serial killer (geez, how many does Miami have) while holding an American flag on Biscayne blvd.

[die]

I used to wait for Sunday nights to see what was going to happen, now I more or less watch Dexter waiting for Homeland to come on.

OUCH. That says alot right there about how the show has lost it's way. The highlights of my sunday night tv watching this season have mostly come from The Walking Dead.


The thing with the fire--I wondered why Travis kept Dexter alive when he was coming there with a gun, obviously just to kill him. If he was planing all along to use him for the last thing then it should have been made clear he didn't want to kill him right away.


I thought about that too. I could almost tell myself that he just brought the gun to intimidate Dexter or maintain the upperhand. I guess it did make perfect sense for him to cast "the beast" into the Lake of Fire - even though he was clearly provoked and angered by Dexter's actions. Perhaps it was more out-of-character for Travis to come close to just shooting Batista at pointblank range? Nothing Biblical about that.

Consistancy: These characters all need to stick to their established character traits.

[die]

:exactly: :lecture

I'm convinced... the season will end with Dex and his tights on, flying around Miami, swooping down to Joe's Stone Crabs, eating a bunch of those and a key-lime pie and then saving the state from another serial killer (geez, how many does Miami have) while holding an American flag on Biscayne blvd.

The Dark Defender rides again!!!!

[Kamandi]

The writers aren't even trying to make Laguerta human any more. I have to wonder what's going on behind the scenes there.

I hope the season finale doesn't have a cliff-hanger. IMHO there aren't any story lines from this season worth spilling over into the next.

edit: Oh, and the Deb dream is stupid. the whole shrink story is lame. If I wanted Dr. Melfy I'll watch a Sopranos DVD.

[Calcifer]

Ring of fire was lame, the threat dexter poses to Travis is go great he should have killed him then and there?!

Jamie will probably die in the next episode..that's a shame, o and Dexter should really invest in a tranquilizer gun.:lecture

[die]

The tranq gun idea would be epic!

He should have like a wrist-crossbow that shoots it!!!:rotfl

Speaking of LaGuerta....I like how they just completely dropped the Angel/Maria thing from out-of-nowhere. They were so married and in love and torn and now they are back to their characters from Season 1. Seems like there should be "something" there to make the transition seem believable.

[Kamandi]

The writers have made some poor choices for writing on the entire supporting cast this season. All of the Miami PD characters have been off-note. We've seen more of the lame software writer intern than Masuka. They want you to hate LaGuerta. Deb has spent so much time with the shrink they haven't sold her as a capable chief. And the first few episodes where they had Quinn and Angel driving around in the Firebird I kept hearing 80's detective show themes in my head.

And I'll restate what I said earlier - Olmos was carrying the DDK scenes. Now that he's gone they've lost most of the drama. Olmos is an intense actor who commands the focus of every scene he plays. Colin Hanks is about as scary as what's his face from That 70's Show. Big miscalculation.

[YoNoSe]

Maybe the new direction for the final 2 seasons will be a rom-com called DEBSTER.

As someone called it in this thread, I think Louis is ITK's son. It makes sense logistically since Dexter went to his 20th High School reunion and Brian was several years older. I think that will be the "final revelation" mentioned in the pre-cap for next week. But even that is kind of inbred and reeks of fan-service. There just aren't any creative ideas left with these writers.

Hope to be proven wrong, though!

[Droog Alex]

Maybe the new direction for the final 2 seasons will be a rom-com called DEBSTER.

As someone called it in this thread, I think Louis is ITK's son. It makes sense logistically since Dexter went to his 20th High School reunion and Brian was several years older. I think that will be the "final revelation" mentioned in the pre-cap for next week. But even that is kind of inbred and reeks of fan-service. There just aren't any creative ideas left with these writers.

Hope to be proven wrong, though!

I'm down with that.

[Bustajesse]

This is hands down one of the worst seasons of any show I have ever watched. Last nights episode just proves it.

You would think after his brother trying to kill Deb, Lila trying to kill the kids, Trinity actually killing his wife, and Chase trying to kill Lumen that he would, I don't know, try to protect his family just a little bit better.

"Hey man, here is a video of me in front of my boat so that you can totally find out my identity, so that once again someone can try to murder/abduct someone I care for in the finale".

[Droog Alex]

This is hands down one of the worst seasons of any show I have ever watched. Last nights episode just proves it.

You would think after his brother trying to kill Deb, Lila trying to kill the kids, Trinity actually killing his wife, and Chase trying to kill Lumen that he would, I don't know, try to protect his family just a little bit better.

"Hey man, here is a video of me in front of my boat so that you can totally find out my identity, so that once again someone can try to murder/abduct someone I care for in the finale".

:rotfl :goodpost:

[Dark Passenger]

or with Louis The Diabolical Intern Collector (L-DIC), they spoiled that by showing "his hand" too soon. It made no sense to show the ITK hand on his shelf episodes ago. Last night, think about how much more hard-hitting it would've been to see him with that hand if it was totally unexpected? Why'd they reveal he had ulterior motives so early? Shoulda just built him up as the harmless nerd and then revealed his motives last night for the first time. That could've been a truly great moment.

Your whole post was amazing, but since Louis is the only thing I care about up to episode 11, I want to know what the hell those lines on the palm mean.

I hope they don't turn Louis into ITK's son, that would be a huge let down. I just hope he is an obsessed crazy and found out Dexter is his brother because of his computer skills.

Maybe even Louis saves Dexter and Harrison? As lame as that would be, I wouldn't be surprised with the writing this season.

[Dark Passenger]

Jamie will probably die in the next episode..that's a shame, o and Dexter should really invest in a tranquilizer gun.:lecture

Didn't he learn anything form Little Chino? :lol

[Mr. EcKo]

Didn't he learn anything form Little Chino? :lol

Nope .. Obviously 2 fully loaded M99 syringes did the trick on taking Little Chino down , but Dex was a dumbass using Wal-Mart brand plastic wrap on him (Shoulda used a name brand).

Then the spear worked also but again he hasn't learned

[DinoLast]

My verdict on this season
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1vczJ_PvRB8/TazlMvu29XI/AAAAAAAAA7M/OzbMvKETPNU/s1600/129_795_500x500.jpg
Personally I thought last season had some really good moments, Jonny Lee Miller's character was very enjoyable, I think if they used him more it would have made last season even better.
This season has had no suspense, it's been blatantly obvious what is going to happen next, and the serial killer has been weak. The worst crime has been done to the characters we have got to know over previous seasons, worst of all to Dexter himself. Take the last episode as a good example, no way would you expect somebody who's code is don't get caught, to leave a video message to a killer who is on the run from the police, and could get caught at any moment
Hopefully something can be done to rescue the show for next season

[Blood Electricity]

Yeah...this has been pretty weak. I'm looking forward to seeing about the ice truck killer's hand. But if Louis is the next big bad, it shouldn't be too hard for Dexter to just whip out his dumb ***. It's like they are writing Dexter to be either a huge idiot or superman to drag on/get him out of danger this season.

I've watched this show since season 1...I've seen all the seasons up to 5 twice. And after watching Boardwalk empire and tuning in to this show last night I was like.. oh yeah this dumb show. haha

I liked Dexter saving Deb's life. That was a pretty brutal way to kill that stupid woman all by herself.

It's like the show has run out of ideas so now it is just referencing the best of dexter; taking cool and shocking bits and pieces from previous seasons and bastardizing it for our viewing pleasure.

[die]

I hope they don't turn Louis into ITK's son, that would be a huge let down. I just hope he is an obsessed crazy and found out Dexter is his brother because of his computer skills.




It would be a shark-jumping moment if there hasn't been one already.


http://www.playbill.com/images/photo/c/c/ccamargocue200.jpg
Born: Christian Minnick
July 7, 1971 in New York City, New York, USA

http://www.bing.com/getimage?q=FCLB_6154769c-6bb2-e7a0-d396-c6cf11ff5249_2&wf=Genimage
Born: Joshua Gregory Cooke
November 22, 1979 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

"I had to live in orphanages cause my dad was still in 3rd grade when I was born! - I hate you, Uncle Dexter!!! "

He could seek vengeance because it's not fair that he has more facial wrinkles than his own dad!!!!!!!!!

I'm really hoping they don't go too far fetched with Louis The Diabolical Intern Collector (L-DIC), to me the coolest possible outcome would be for him to eventually help Dexter, be a sidekick or something - do alot of the PC legwork and detective work to give Dexter a chance to do more killing and not waste so much time on research. Kinda like how Punisher had a dude like that (I don't wanna do the Batman/Robin comparison, nor is an Aquaman/Aqualad reference good at any time). Maybe discovering Dexter is his way of impressing Dexter?

That would be the best angle though seriously, let's not have another mild-mannered secret killer in Miami.

You would think after his brother trying to kill Deb, Lila trying to kill the kids, Trinity actually killing his wife, and Chase trying to kill Lumen that he would, I don't know, try to protect his family just a little bit better.



well said.

Dexter has been having quite a few "keystone cops" type of moments over the past few episodes. It really kinda kills the mystique of the character when he has so many facepalm worthy slip-ups.

[Droog Alex]

It's like the show has run out of ideas so now it is just referencing the best of dexter; taking cool and shocking bits and pieces from previous seasons and bastardizing it for our viewing pleasure.

Which is why I think that Nebraska, road trip episode may be the most overrated episode EVER in the series. Ok, yeah... Biney was back, but not really.. and, oh well. Pffft.

The more I look back at the season, that show, the more I really don't like it and the rehashing just really ruined the luster. It we would have never seen Biney ever again, I would have been fine with it.

Anyone has a screen cap of last night to see the markings he was drawing on the hand? Is it reflexology? Palm reading, life lines et? Was it anatomical labeling? Who knows? The significance of the hand as a whole, we all know about, but the detailing on there and what message is being conveyed in that severed body part is key and highly anticipated by us all.

It's another 'package' per say... just like the ITK, who packaged his body parts to Dexter in butcher paper.

We'll all find out soon enough.

[die]

We'll all find out soon enough.

Is it just me, or is it this season feels like I'm anxious for the last episode for the sole reason of seeing if they can salvage it?

I mean, there hasn't been any real suspense for me storyline-wise, I just wanna see if they can do something epic to make me interested in next season.

I mean, they milked the previews for the body parts on the horses for several episodes with very little payoff (which I thought REALLY could've been awesome!), after that they really gave up on really trying to hook the viewers.

[Mr. EcKo]

What if LOUIS is really TRAVIS' BROTHER

[Kamandi]

My prediction: (prep your barf bags)

The DDK story resolves, all is well in Dex's world, and just as he's about to breathe a sigh of relief some cops from Nebraska show up to arrest him.

Oh, I'm not saying it's a good idea. I just think it will happen.

[Calcifer]

Maybe Dexter's blood drops from his nose bleed are discovered at the marina from when he tried to take down Travis.

[Ash Housewares]

Its got to the point now where I'm checking on here to see what people say about the show before I watch it. I don't care about spoilers because I feel like I'm watching it just for the sake of it now. Sundays episode sounds lame but I will probably watch it anyway. I agree about this being one of the worst seasons of any show ever. Doesn't help that I've been watching Boardwalk Empire aswell though.

[Droog Alex]

What if LOUIS is really TRAVIS' BROTHER
Nah son...
Maybe Dexter's blood drops from his nose bleed are discovered at the marina from when he tried to take down Travis.


Well, it is his own marina, his own boat is docked there... so there is an alibi there. Although, maybe they can tie something with the blood droplete, maybe just maybe... and I always felt that that trip to Nebraska, impulse kill et., may come back to haunt him.

[Morbach]

Once again I don't get all the negative feedback :dunno

[YoNoSe]

Well, it is his own marina, his own boat is docked there... so there is an alibi there. Although, maybe they can tie something with the blood droplete, maybe just maybe...

Only if they have a good blood analyst. Oh, wait...

[Blood Electricity]

I too am hoping that this season finale will kind of make it all worthwhile for me. While I still enjoy watching it...it has begun to feel a little silly.

[die]

Once again I don't get all the negative feedback :dunno

I thought most of what people didn't like was pretty well-explained. I can't say this is season is the worst of any show, but by Dexter standards it is not a solid season.

Do you think it has been a cleverly written season? Do you think that it has had the twists and turns fans have come to expect from the show?

I'm open to listening to reasoning here, I like different points of view. I'd love to see somebody defend this season actually!


Only if they have a good blood analyst. Oh, wait...
:exactly::rotfl

[Dark Passenger]

If they're planning on end game for the next 2 seasons, they had better get Clyde Philips back.

[Droog Alex]

Once again I don't get all the negative feedback :dunno
I think people are being concise, critical in a good way and not just bashing the show for the sake of bashing it. We all loved Dexter, but just notice certain things that ra eeither lacking, and quite frankly, a standard that was set very high.


I thought most of what people didn't like was pretty well-explained. I can't say this is season is the worst of any show, but by Dexter standards it is not a solid season.

Do you think it has been a cleverly written season? Do you think that it has had the twists and turns fans have come to expect from the show?

I'm open to listening to reasoning here, I like different points of view. I'd love to see somebody defend this season actually!



:exactly::rotfl
:exactly::goodpost:

We are just being good fans, and analyzing things to a point that's reasonable.

I'll say this, it will never touch or be mentioned with the likes of 'the Sopranos' that's for sure.

[cokebabies]

I thought most of what people didn't like was pretty well-explained. I can't say this is season is the worst of any show, but by Dexter standards it is not a solid season.

Yeah, the "one of the worst seasons ever!!!!!!!!!" description is a fine bit of hyperbole. Without a doubt, this is my least favorite season of Dexter, by far. But if you want to see a current example of a once-great show that has gone down the toilet while holding an anchor, just look at The Office.

So while I still think this season is better than most current TV fare (though nowhere near the current best), compared to itself, it suffers greatly.

Which shows why Breaking Bad's self-imposed ending is great for the show. Sure, it'll deprive us of new episodes after next year, but it will go out strongly. You could have said that going into this season of Dexter, especially with the MCH contract stuff. A lot of people were saying they should end it this season, to go out before it has a chance to get weak. Well, now I am very glad for the next two seasons. Because at least there is a chance to right the ship before ending.

[Kamandi]

Season 3 was my least favorite season. Too much Dex and Rita hanging out with Jimmy Smitz family and acting domestic. But season three was a mess from the start. I never felt like it was going anywhere.

By contrast this season had potential - It started off decent and then lost it's steam. And became predicable, the worst crime. And Dexter is becoming too well adjusted to believe in his dark nature.

[Dark Passenger]

I'm really mad at die now.

He really made me wish they had never shown the hand while Jamie was at his place and there was a more epic moment this past episode. Total waste of a moment.

[Ash Housewares]

Watching Sunday's episode now and it's just getting worse and worse. Such a shame.

[die]

I think the thing that wins episode 3 over in my mind over this season would be Miguel Prado, I liked that character. He mad a much more interesting/believable bad guy than Hanks Jr. I just don't think it was a wise choice to rest so much on Hanks' shoulders this season. Had they extended the Gellar part to the last episode and gave him more screen time, Hanks could've shined with a smaller role at the end.

I've said it and I'll say it again, this season could've been great. They revealed too much about Louis, Gellar and Travis way too early. And the context in which they used Brian Moser resulted in a one-episode guilty pleasure when it could've been an epic struggle in the last episode between Harry & Brian fighting to steer Dexter down different paths.

I could rewrite this whole Season in 15 minutes and have people mentioning awards. :peace:monkey1

[DinoLast]

I think one of the big disappointments for me is the fact that Gellar was not real. How much more clever it would have been to have tricked us into thinking he was not real, and then for it to be he did exist. Now we just have Colin Hanks becoming generic religious nut-job killer, rather than the more interesting character he was before the "twist" was revealed.
It's also such a shame that Brother Sam (One of the best things about this season) has almost been forgotten.

[Droog Alex]

It's also such a shame that Brother Sam (One of the best things about this season) has almost been forgotten.

I said it from day one; he stole every scene he was in.

[Buttmunch]

You know this season was a stinker when even DP is saying it has sucked! :lol

But yeah, 3 (or maybe 5 because it was so depressing) was the worst season before this one. We need another Season 1 or 4 next year or else the next 2 will just be a bore. Hopefully we get a nice juicy momment at the end of this season that will lead into next season (like Deb finding out about Dexter, or making out with him now I guess :lol ). That worked really well for season 4 into 5 IMO, but it did make that whole year depressing because of it.

[Ash Housewares]

It's almost like they switched writers from episode 5 onward. The Brother Sam stuff was excellent and Dexter drowning that kid was powerful.

[Morbach]

I thought most of what people didn't like was pretty well-explained. I can't say this is season is the worst of any show, but by Dexter standards it is not a solid season.

Do you think it has been a cleverly written season? Do you think that it has had the twists and turns fans have come to expect from the show?

I'm open to listening to reasoning here, I like different points of view. I'd love to see somebody defend this season actually!



:exactly::rotfl

I think people are being concise, critical in a good way and not just bashing the show for the sake of bashing it. We all loved Dexter, but just notice certain things that ra eeither lacking, and quite frankly, a standard that was set very high.



:exactly::goodpost:

We are just being good fans, and analyzing things to a point that's reasonable.

I'll say this, it will never touch or be mentioned with the likes of 'the Sopranos' that's for sure.

I get where you all are coming from, I do. I've been a fan of this show since the beginning. And I'm currently working on a custom running me over $400. So I am critical as well.

But to say this is one of the worst seasons of any show ever? That's a joke. Dexter had yet to outdo seasons 4,2 or 1. But I didn't expect them to. Those seasons were godlike. I think its getting more critisism then deserving.

Look at how he got out of season 2. Escaping Layla, getting caught by Doakes,the bay harbor butcher storyline. Yet ppl are complaining that he escaped a boat on fire! Of all the ____ he has gotten out of that was easy.

It's like some ppl come in here just to bash it. If you don't like it don't watch it. :dunno

[Kamandi]

Season four had a solid story, a creepy villain and and top talent actor playing him.

If they hire another featherweight like Colin Hanks next season it will ruin this show.

[Droog Alex]

I get where you all are coming from, I do. I've been a fan of this show since the beginning. And I'm currently working on a custom running me over $400. So I am critical as well.

But to say this is one of the worst seasons of any show ever? That's a joke. Dexter had yet to outdo seasons 4,2 or 1. But I didn't expect them to. Those seasons were godlike. I think its getting more critisism then deserving.

Look at how he got out of season 2. Escaping Layla, getting caught by Doakes,the bay harbor butcher storyline. Yet ppl are complaining that he escaped a boat on fire! Of all the ____ he has gotten out of that was easy.

It's like some ppl come in here just to bash it. If you don't like it don't watch it. :dunno

1. So, since you are spending $400 on a customs... that means what? You are better? Oh, hold on, DP -- post those vids of your collecting. If we go by that, then only he should be only one allowed to DISCUSS the show. C'mon man... bring something else to the table. WE ALL LOVE THE SHOW. As for the money angle, so what?! I got a Kato clothing set, a Xeno head and a head sculpt I'm not supposed to talk about... a long time ago. Spent well over $400. :lecture LOL. We all are here to chat about the show, good and bad. The show is not immune from critique, and people here are doing so in a very concise and very reasonable manner.

2. "But to say this is one of the worst seasons of any show ever?"

WHO SAID THAT? Now, you are putting words in people's mouths, 'cause as far as I see, not oner person here has gone that far.

3. You said... "Dexter had yet to outdo seasons 4,2 or 1. But I didn't expect them to. Those seasons were godlike. I think its getting more critisism then deserving."

Duh. Did you not read when I said, "a standard that was set very high."
:monkey1


4. You said: "It's like some ppl come in here just to bash it. If you don't like it don't watch it."

Who -- what? When? As I said, fans on this thread are "We are just being good fans, and analyzing things to a point that's reasonable. "

And,

"I think people are being concise, critical in a good way and not just bashing the show for the sake of bashing it. We all loved Dexter, but just notice certain things that ra eeither lacking, and quite frankly, a standard that was set very high."

:lecture

[Droog Alex]

Season four had a solid story, a creepy villain and and top talent actor playing him.

If they hire another featherweight like Colin Hanks next season it will ruin this show.

I agree... but watch out, don't want to be called a 'hater.' :rotfl

[Calcifer]

1. So, since you are spending $400 on a customs... that means what? You are better? Oh, hold on, DP -- post those vids of your collecting. If we go by that, then only he should be only one allowed to DISCUSS the show. C'mon man... bring something else to the table. WE ALL LOVE THE SHOW. As for the money angle, so what?! I got a Kato clothing set, a Xeno head and a head sculpt I'm not supposed to talk about... a long time ago. Spent well over $400. :lecture LOL. We all are here to chat about the show, good and bad. The show is not immune from critique, and people here are doing so in a very concise and very reasonable manner.

2. "But to say this is one of the worst seasons of any show ever?"

WHO SAID THAT? Now, you are putting words in people's mouths, 'cause as far as I see, not oner person here has gone that far.

3. You said... "Dexter had yet to outdo seasons 4,2 or 1. But I didn't expect them to. Those seasons were godlike. I think its getting more critisism then deserving."

Duh. Did you not read when I said, "a standard that was set very high."
:monkey1


4. You said: "It's like some ppl come in here just to bash it. If you don't like it don't watch it."

Who -- what? When? As I said, fans on this thread are "We are just being good fans, and analyzing things to a point that's reasonable. "

And,

"I think people are being concise, critical in a good way and not just bashing the show for the sake of bashing it. We all loved Dexter, but just notice certain things that ra eeither lacking, and quite frankly, a standard that was set very high."

:lecture


:exactly::goodpost:

..and if any of us do come across as "bashing the show" I'm sure it's just because we are watching a character/show we all love ruined by terrible writing and that can be frustrating for a fan.

[Morbach]

This is hands down one of the worst seasons of any show I have ever watched. Last nights episode just proves it.

You would think after his brother trying to kill Deb, Lila trying to kill the kids, Trinity actually killing his wife, and Chase trying to kill Lumen that he would, I don't know, try to protect his family just a little bit better.

"Hey man, here is a video of me in front of my boat so that you can totally find out my identity, so that once again someone can try to murder/abduct someone I care for in the finale". this quote days it, I didn't put words in anyone's mouth :lecture

1. So, since you are spending $400 on a customs... that means what? You are better? Oh, hold on, DP -- post those vids of your collecting. If we go by that, then only he should be only one allowed to DISCUSS the show. C'mon man... bring something else to the table. WE ALL LOVE THE SHOW. As for the money angle, so what?! I got a Kato clothing set, a Xeno head and a head sculpt I'm not supposed to talk about... a long time ago. Spent well over $400. :lecture LOL. We all are here to chat about the show, good and bad. The show is not immune from critique, and people here are doing so in a very concise and very reasonable manner.

2. "But to say this is one of the worst seasons of any show ever?"

WHO SAID THAT? Now, you are putting words in people's mouths, 'cause as far as I see, not oner person here has gone that far.

3. You said... "Dexter had yet to outdo seasons 4,2 or 1. But I didn't expect them to. Those seasons were godlike. I think its getting more critisism then deserving."

Duh. Did you not read when I said, "a standard that was set very high."
:monkey1


4. You said: "It's like some ppl come in here just to bash it. If you don't like it don't watch it."

Who -- what? When? As I said, fans on this thread are "We are just being good fans, and analyzing things to a point that's reasonable. "

And,

"I think people are being concise, critical in a good way and not just bashing the show for the sake of bashing it. We all loved Dexter, but just notice certain things that ra eeither lacking, and quite frankly, a standard that was set very high."

:lecture

I wasn't working the money angle at all. Simply trying to put how big a fan I am and all I see is negative critisism :dunno

I'm not better than anyone else. Never meant to come off that way if I did.

[Droog Alex]

So one guy speaks for an entire thread?
You said:
It's like some ppl come in here just to bash it. If you don't like it don't watch it.

I hear yah, but understand... we are all fans.

[YoNoSe]

Unlike most of the bashing that goes on around here, and that's about 60% of this board, I think the people here are actually rooting for the show.

Unfortunately, they've given very little to discuss with positivity. Everyone seems pretty curious about Louis but that's about it. The Big Bad is probably the weakest of the series and the Debster romance angle is downright terrible.

For the finale, I hope they dispatch Travis quickly and then sucker punch us with something amazing. I would be thrilled if they managed to add some element that makes me forget about the shortcomings this year.

[die]

Unlike most of the bashing that goes on around here, and that's about 60% of this board, I think the people here are actually rooting for the show.

Unfortunately, they've given very little to discuss with positivity. Everyone seems pretty curious about Louis but that's about it. The Big Bad is probably the weakest of the series and the Debster romance angle is downright terrible.

For the finale, I hope they dispatch Travis quickly and then sucker punch us with something amazing. I would be thrilled if they managed to add some element that makes me forget about the shortcomings this year.


Agreed.


I've been a fan too since the start and I've built about 6 different UNMENTIONABLE MIAMI SERIAL KILLER BLOOD ANALYST figures myself as well, and I still wanna build more regardless! We're all fans here. So, there's no sense in us not getting along. :peace

I want the show to be great, I am passionate about the shows I like and I only like VERY FEW tv series. These days I watch The Walking Dead and Dexter, that's it....that's is all I watch regarding series tv.


To sum it up, here's a post I made all the way back on page 94 of this very thread, lol:

I'm a huge Dexter fan, but i'm really having a hard time getting sold on the idea of the show still having alot of life left in it right now. Seasons 1 and 2 were just as epic as you can get to me, 3 was a bit of a letdown for me, but it had it's moments (I hated the ending). Season 4 was definitely really good and the ending was EPIC, just really floored me.

I think the show has really gotten sidetracked after Seasons 1 & 2. To me, what really helped to push the character of Dexter in Seasons 1 & 2 so well was the inner dialogue and the mood-setting music. The music ALWAYS set the mood (that Blood Theme is EPIC, as is Astor's Birthday) and Dexter's inner dialogue/narraration always helped put the viewer right into the character. Now, it seems that the show has gotten more about one-upping with special guests, putting Dexter in ridiculous situations, who Deb's sleeping with and every episode contains more and more one-liners from Deb and Masuka. To me the show suffers from the change in direction.

But....I can see fans letting these things slide a bit. My real #1 problem with the show now is the unexplained kills where Dexter kills outside of the code. Maybe it's part of the set-up for the series finale where Dexter gets convicted/killed/etc. but it's still a loose end that hurts the show for me. A guy whos such a methodical, "neat" monster with a code goes outside of his modus operandi like it's nothing? If it's a part of a bigger picture here, they really aren't doing a good job of explaining it to me.

I still watching the show every Sunday, but I'm really hoping that it can return to it's glory. I'm starting to think that by giving last Season such an epic ending, it may end up costing them. I think alot of fans forgot how important the Old School Rita was to the show.

That's still how I feel 2 seasons later. :wave

I want the final episode to redeem the whole season!

[YoNoSe]

I'm not giving up hope. Who knows, maybe they needed a "transition season" to move away from all of Dexter's previous baggage to set up this final movement.
They have all the raw material to pull off something great if they truly have a plan for final2 seasons.

[die]

I was looking for some reference pics for a Dark Defender figure I'm working on and ran across this page. After scrolling over it and watching the video at the bottom, I found myself wanting to watch Season 2 all over again.


http://www.deadfilm.net/2011/01/06/


Why doesn't Dexter bowl anymore?

[crows]

this is a very weak season, because it has a very very weak bad guy, and some weak Dexter's inner monologues, that can't be denied, I still love this show and this show is better than 80% of what is on tv right now, BUT
as for Dexter's standards for show, this falls flat, I mean, it just does,
writing is just not great, sometimes feels all over the place

[Kamandi]

It would have been far more interesting if Dexter had garroted Travis way back and then have Dex came under (alive) Geller's influence. Dexter had been somewhat religously interested earlier in the season, they could have played on that and had Geller get into Dexter's head.

[Ash Housewares]

I would actually be happy if all this season turned out to be a dream. My colleague at work who is a big fan said Travis should be right about it being the end of the world and have everyone die at the end.

[die]

It would have been far more interesting if Dexter had garroted Travis way back and then have Dex came under (alive) Geller's influence. Dexter had been somewhat religously interested earlier in the season, they could have played on that and had Geller get into Dexter's head.

That could've been really cool actually!

Have the audience convinced that Gellar is not real, then after Travis dies, have the real Gellar come out and try to convince Dexter to take his place and finish "God's" work. Definitely alot of missed chances this season, there's probably 10 different directions the show could've went and been better than what we've gotten.

[pixletwin]

I am so sick of hearing about Dexter's Dark Passenger but most of all I am sick of the way he says "My Dark Passeneger" :lol

[Droog Alex]

I am so sick of hearing about Dexter's Dark Passenger but most of all I am sick of the way he says "My Dark Passeneger" :lol

Exactly, you know what... it's fine if we do, but he shouldn't reference it a lot on the show.

I have a feelin' that they'll leave us with a big cliffhanger on Sunday night -- then, we'll suffer for months, agonizing over the season premiere next year. :yess:

[SwedishHeat]

I am so sick of hearing about Dexter's Dark Passenger but most of all I am sick of the way he says "My Dark Passeneger" :lol

It's pretty much exactly like The Force, at first Dark Passenger was just a general term for his urges, a cute little nickname for his killer instinct. . . now they tried to make it more into his backstory and now his Dark Passenger is his midichlorians, and it's a manifestation of his brother that keeps driving him to kill.

Don't explain it, just let it be.

[Kamandi]

It also feels like a device to absolve Dexter of blame.

[Dark Passenger]

At least they're not doing what the books did to his Dark Passenger.

[pixletwin]

At least they're not doing what the books did to his Dark Passenger.

What did the books do?

[die]

At least they're not doing what the books did to his Dark Passenger.

AMEN.

I was gonna say that, but you beat me to it!!!

I officially gave up reading the Dexter books after that. I really enjoyed the first 2 books.

[Kamandi]

I didn't read the books. I don't plan to. What happened?

[Calcifer]

I didn't read the books. I don't plan to. What happened?

I do! , no spoilers please!:lecture

[Kamandi]

OK, spoiler wrapper it.

[Calcifer]

Thank you! :)

Wouldn't it be great if Travis uploaded Dexter's video message to his website for everyone to see, Dexter would have some series explaining to do! Would serve Dexter right for being a sloppy idiot.

[pixletwin]

At least they're not doing what the books did to his Dark Passenger.

AMEN.

I was gonna say that, but you beat me to it!!!

I officially gave up reading the Dexter books after that. I really enjoyed the first 2 books.

Well? :tap

[Dark Passenger]

Dexter Book Spoiler

They made his Dark Passenger like a demon inside him that he could cleanse. :slap

[pixletwin]

It seems to me that is the direction the TV series is moving too. Hmmmm....

[Kamandi]

I don't think Travis will put Dex on youtube.

There's a problem the writers have ignored for the last several seasons - video cameras. Dex runs around an office building and there's no video of him? He vandalizes a statue and there no video? Even a modest little hotel in Kearney, Nebraska would have a camera by the check in desk.

Dex had a video camera moment in season two and it was a big problem. He should have learned from it.

[Droog Alex]

I don't think Travis will put Dex on youtube.

There's a problem the writers have ignored for the last several seasons - video cameras. Dex runs around an office building and there's no video of him? He vandalizes a statue and there no video? Even a modest little hotel in Kearney, Nebraska would have a camera by the check in desk.

Dex had a video camera moment in season two and it was a big problem. He should have learned from it.

I just thought he was invisible...

:monkey3 :horror

[pixletwin]

The writers seem to be relying on viewers suspension of disbelief a lot more this season than in past seasons.

[Calcifer]

I just thought he was invisible...

:monkey3 :horror

Dexter can't become invisible ..he turns into smoke remember!:thwak

[Droog Alex]

Dexter can't become invisible ..he turns into smoke remember!:thwak

:lecture :goodpost:

[Blood Electricity]

The writers seem to be relying on viewers suspension of disbelief a lot more this season than in past seasons.

I was thinking along the lines of this. It's not that the past seasons didn't have those moments..it's just that there seems to be a lot of fantastical moments going on this season.

[die]

Dexter Book Spoiler

They made his Dark Passenger like a demon inside him that he could cleanse. :slap

This is true, but still doesn't capture just how horrible that idea really was!

The opening narrative along is so horrible, describing how long this "being" has existed before it infiltrated Dexter, then still it's quite retarded the whole way through even after that awful introduction. It does seem like they have borrowed some of the "cult" elements here and there in the show, but thank God they never went with this type of story in the tv series, it would've killed the show dead.

[Dark Passenger]

This is true, but still doesn't capture just how horrible that idea really was!

It just wasn't worth the finger exertion of typing.

[Morbach]

AMEN.

I was gonna say that, but you beat me to it!!!

I officially gave up reading the Dexter books after that. I really enjoyed the first 2 books.

I totally agree. The 3rd book was enough for me to know I was done with the books. The show far surpassed the books anyway.

[crows]

you know what i hate,
How Good Travis just completely disappeared, I mean wtf? what happened to imaginary Gellar? what happened to good loving Travis? I mean I don't know I know it was revealed to Travis he killed hom but, wtf? i thought they were going to play with that a little more

[Kamandi]

I'm sure imaginary Geller will show up to talk Travis out of killing Dexter or Harrison.

You know, if Travis can see Olmos and nobody else can, that's a sign Adama was a cylon. Just sayin.

[crows]

I'm sure imaginary Geller will show up to talk Travis out of killing Dexter or Harrison.

You know, if Travis can see Olmos and nobody else can, that's a sign Adama was a cylon. Just sayin.

I still wish Travis was seen fighting with himself, he went from good boy travis to bad guy travis, no in between, no nothing, that shows you how weak Hank jr is, I mean I like him don't get me wrong,
but he ws totally miscast totally, totally miscast, IF Travis was cast with a different actor Even the cheesy writing would have not been as bad, I mean, maybe this season the way it is could have been decent, I don't know,

Is sad I would be so excited for new Dexter season, I would go crazy waiting, I couldn't wait for the new episode,
but like some of you said already, I really couldn't care less for next episode, I wanna watch it still but, i dont feel like I need to watch it, just want to watch it,

About Louis,
maybe it might just be me, but, Would it be cool if he becomes a serial killer and starts doing killings the same way the ice truck Killer did, Making Dexter really wonder whats going on, While working With Dexter? that would be two killers working for the police, and Louis having the upper hand by knowing about Dexter, maybe testing Dexter, I don't know Im just thinking....:monkey3:monkey1

[die]

Good point about the "Good guy" Travis disappearing so abruptly. I guess the scene in the yard by the church where Gellar tells him that he killed him was when it all switched, but yeah, I agree there should've been more of a transition between the 2. Chalk it up to bad writing, bad timing and an actor who's clearly not up to that level yet (and may never be).

"Hey, my dad's an actor - it's gotta be in my genes!!!!"

We're talking about guys like Smits, Lithgow and Olmos...come on now!

[klocket]

Wow, i accidentally came into this thread by clicking the wrong title... i am Dexter fan and i honestly can't believe how some of you are bashing this season, this season has been loads better than the last and i think Hanks (IMO) rivals, if not trumps Lithgow... let the hate pour out at me over that one.

Remember it's just my opinion... I think Hanks as done a great job of portraying an extremely disturbed, misinformed and brainwash individual.

I am surprised with how useless and boring last season was that you folks are disliking where this season has gone... i did see some valid points though... it's not just hate in here, i'm just surprised damn it! :p

M.

[preeny101]

4, 1, 2, 3, 6, 5

Just saying.

[Mr. EcKo]

1,2,4,3,6,5 Just sayin too

[pixletwin]

4,1,3,5,6,2 for me. :wave

[Calcifer]

4,1,3,5,6,2 for me. :wave

S2 last? ..really!? interesting..so you think the past two seasons were better then season 2?

412356, that's how I see it!

[pixletwin]

I didn't like Leila (or whatever her name was). I thought that her relationship with Dexter was the most out-of-character Dexter has ever been.

[Mr. EcKo]

4,1,3,5,6,2 for me. :wave

How dare you !!! ,Put season 2 last :nono:nono:nono:nono

[pixletwin]

How dare you !!! ,Put season 2 last :nono:nono:nono:nono

The Dexter/Doaks story line was the only thing I liked. What did you like so much about it?

[Droog Alex]

1,2,4,3,5,6

[Mr. EcKo]

Everything but LILA - The whole Bay Harbor Butcher thing ,
Dex almost getting caught /
Special F&^king Agent Lundy /
Dex being a heroin addict /
Rita sayin " Shut the F%^k up to her mother"
Dexter headbutting Doakes and sayin " I own you"
Pardon my ( . )( . ) 's
Paul dying in prison


Theres too much to list but heres some of my favs

[pixletwin]

Thats true... I haven't seen S2 in a while. I'll amend my list:

4,1,3,2,5,6

[Mr. EcKo]

:yess::yess::yess: By the time i'm done Season 2 will be either 2nd or 3rd on your list :lol

[Hydeous]

3, 1, 2, 4 for me. Starting 5 in a bit.

Lila is hot :lol

[die]

1,2,4,3,6,5 Just sayin too


:exactly:

Go back and re-watch the preview for Season 2 (I posted it a few pages back). Now, that's the type of preview that will get you pumped for an upcoming season. :lecture

[Kamandi]

I'll rank them 1,2,4,5,6,3

Years 1 and 2 this show were edge of the seat every week. Say what you will about Lila, season 2 hit on every other piston.

5,6 and 3 are all pretty soft and I don't have a strong opinion about their order. I did like Lumen as a character so I'm prone to put 5 before 6 or 3. Olmos is a better actor than Smitz, but then again they squandered the way they used him.

[die]

3, 5 and 6 are pretty evenly ranked.

[die]

Anybody notice that on sho.com they have the title of next week's preview as "Dexter races a lunar eclipse to nab the Doomsday Killers "

Could be a typo...

Or it could be they are trying to keep secretive, but it wouldn't make much sense since they reveal soooooooo much of the last episode within the preview itself.

or maybe a hint to something else?

It's probably nothing, but I just wondered if anybody else noticed it. :impatient:

[cokebabies]

AMEN.

I was gonna say that, but you beat me to it!!!

I officially gave up reading the Dexter books after that. I really enjoyed the first 2 books.

Book 3 was definitely the worst. Not that the subsequent books have been great, but they were at least not aggressively bad like 3 was.

They're toilet reading now.

[fawk3s]

Seems like noone likes S6. I'm loving it all the way.

[die]

Seems like noone likes S6. I'm loving it all the way.

I really do like it, it's just that it isn't what I was hoping for this season and the show seems to have really lost it's way. The writers no longer seem to be concerned with surprising or shocking the audience (or either they think we are just flat out clueless retards now) and what about character development? We watched Dexter adapt & grow and change over the past seasons... Now, here we are in Season 6 and his sister wants to screw him and he's basically not even following the Code that defined him. For instance, tell me how Dexter is dealing with no longer having his trophies AKA the bloodslides? It was such an intricate part of who he is, now this season it's like the writers just said "I'm tired of Dexter collecting blood slides from every victim, let's just have him drop them and then see if the audience ever even notices!!!" and with him doing so many things out-of-character now, guess what....people don't even notice or seem to care. Let's just have Dexter shooting guns, banging skanks in country stores and have him getting caught multiple times already (add one more, if you saw the preview for this Sunday) by some scrawny amatuer Holy Roller who oddly looks and sounds like Woody From Toy Story!!!

Wait, now what was Harry's first rule for the code????

I'm really hoping the last episode is as good as it looks like it's gonna be, really I am. I was hoping the scene with the horses and the severed body parts would've been as big of a payoff as the previews led it to be too though.


I hope for the best, but I gotta expect the worst :dunno

[crows]

I am feeling hopeful for the next 2 seasons,
If they Freaking Fix the writing,

I completely forgot about the Slides, damn it! :monkey4

but for the last episode i am expecting the worst, I don't think they could disappoint me but, who knows, im not hopeful at all,

(unless Travis is Imaginay and Dexter killed Gellar and Dexter is doomsday Killer...:lol)

seriously, that's what im starting to think like, that's what this season did to me! :horror

[die]

Yeah blackmask, I too am wondering if they are planning some really bold twist Sunday as well. I'm wondering about Louis...maybe they'll tie him in with DDK? I'm figuring he will be back next season and that issue will end in a cliffhanger type of scenario this season. I just can't see Loius being the bad guy though, it seems like he's looking for a partner type of role (which would be refreshing)

I think I'm most concerned about where they're going with this Debra thing though.:slap

[DinoLast]

4,2,1,5,3,6

[Dark Passenger]

Yeah die, how are they going to tie up the DDK and Louis stories? So Dexter gets the hand in the mail and then...? I'm more curious about what the lines on the palm mean than anything.

I just hope that Louis is in no way related to The Ice Truck Killer. That would be very stupid.




Oh and, 1,4,2,3,5,6.

[Calcifer]

Yeah die, how are they going to tie up the DDK and Louis stories? So Dexter gets the hand in the mail and then...? I'm more curious about what the lines on the palm mean than anything.

I just hope that Louis is in no way related to The Ice Truck Killer. That would be very stupid.




Oh and, 1,4,2,3,5,6.



I bet the final scene would be something like Dex opening up the box revealing the hand Louis sent him. Dexter inspects the marking with a puzzled look on his face, the camera then pans around to reveal Brian standing behind Dexter and he comes out with a smart line like "Well that's not my handy work".

[Kamandi]

I'd rather not have Louis or DDK carry into next season. Both actors bug the crap out of me.

[Droog Alex]

Yeah die, how are they going to tie up the DDK and Louis stories? So Dexter gets the hand in the mail and then...? I'm more curious about what the lines on the palm mean than anything.

I just hope that Louis is in no way related to The Ice Truck Killer. That would be very stupid.




Oh and, 1,4,2,3,5,6.They don't have to 'tie up' DDK and Louis. It could be two different angles, currently going. The DDK will end/could end and the Louis thing will be the carry-over onto the next season, cliffhanger et.

He will either be an admirer of the ITT, a relative of Brian, an intern/associate of his... remember, Brian worked at a hospital, maybe had some sort of connection with Louis they can tie up. He appears a smart enough guy, where they can tie up some association.

[Morbach]

Yeah die, how are they going to tie up the DDK and Louis stories? So Dexter gets the hand in the mail and then...? I'm more curious about what the lines on the palm mean than anything.

I just hope that Louis is in no way related to The Ice Truck Killer. That would be very stupid.




Oh and, 1,4,2,3,5,6.

My sister told me that relatives have similar life lines on their hands. So I'm thinking he's trying to send dex a riddle that pretty much says "I'm related to you".

Really looking forward to the finale. "This Is How The World Ends".

As far as ranking goes I'd say 4,2,1,6,5,3.

[Dark Passenger]

I don't think they'll tie Louis up in the finale. Have a feeling he will be a story in season 7. I also think that his palm lines are some sort of admiration of Dexter, maybe symbolizing how he looks up to him, or how smart he think Dexter is. Louis was really crushed when Dexter told him his game sucked and I don't see it being as deep as we think, with the ITK thing. Just think maybe Louis is stalker-type obsessed with Dexter and looks up to him.

The writers better not screw up this Louis thing. He's the most interesting thing with the most potential since season 4.

I have a feeling Travis will die, my guess is in a suicide martyr type situation sacrificing himself to bring on the end of the world.

[Droog Alex]

I don't think they'll tie Louis up in the finale. Have a feeling he will be a story in season 7. I also think that his palm lines are some sort of admiration of Dexter, maybe symbolizing how he looks up to him, or how smart he think Dexter is. Louis was really crushed when Dexter told him his game sucked and I don't see it being as deep as we think, with the ITK thing. Just think maybe Louis is stalker-type obsessed with Dexter and looks up to him.
Also starting to think Louis is using Jamie to get to Dexter.

I have a feeling Travis will die, my guess is in a suicide martyr type situation sacrificing himself to bring on the end of the world.

He knows Dexter is a killer. He has to in a certain way, based on the video-game, the severed hand et.

He wanted to see Dex's reaction to the video-game thing. Is no coincedence, it was almost like a, "Hey, look what I have for you..." "I know what you do..." "I want to see how you react..." a very passive aggressive move on his part, and the way Dex reacted, that visceral affect really got to him and just facilitated probably what he was feeling about him; advanced his 'plans' whatever they are...

It's obvious; like I stated posts ago, this Louis thing will likely be what holds us over for months, as they design the following season based on those happenings with him.

Also starting to think Louis is using Jamie to get to Dexter.

You think? That's painfully obvious for a few episodes. He was in his apartment. In an inviting fashion by the person who takes care of Dex's child.

Funny how they are parallels; ITT would leave Dex messages in his apt., invading Dex's home, knowing about his trophies and so forth...

Louis invaded his home, but not as we see it; as he used the baby-sitter. His message to Dex will be a severed hand delivered anonymously, an attempted message was the showing if the game and the premise of the vide-game.

[Dark Passenger]

He knows Dexter is a killer. He has to in a certain way, based on the video-game, the severed hand et.

He wanted to see Dex's reaction to the video-game thing. Is no coincedence, it was almost like a, "Hey, look what I have for you..." "I know what you do..." "I want to see how you react..." a very passive aggressive move on his part, and the way Dex reacted, that visceral affect really got to him and just facilitated probably what he was feeling about him; advanced his 'plans' whatever they are...

It's obvious; like I stated posts ago, this Louis thing will likely be what holds us over for months, as they design the following season based on those happenings with him.


You think? That's painfully obvious for a few episodes. He was in his apartment. In an inviting fashion by the person who takes care of Dex's child.

Funny how they are parallels; ITT would leave Dex messages in his apt., invading Dex's home, knowing about his trophies and so forth...

Louis invaded his home, but not as we see it; as he used the baby-sitter. His message to Dex will be a severed hand delivered anonymously, an attempted message was the showing if the game and the premise of the vide-game.


Yeah, Louis was crushed when Dexter said his game was offensive. I still think the palm reading lines are more worship of Dexter and nothing negative or telling Dexter that he (Louis) is related to him (which I don't think he is anymore anyway). I think Louis being related to the ITK is silly. The ITK was in an institution until he was 21. That would make Louis a teenager at the most.

[Droog Alex]

Yeah, Louis was crushed when Dexter said his game was offensive. I still think the palm reading lines are more worship of Dexter and nothing negative or telling Dexter that he (Louis) is related to him (which I don't think he is anymore anyway). I think Louis being related to the ITK is silly. The ITK was in an institution until he was 21. That would make Louis a teenager at the most.

He has some sort of infatuation, a liking... a crazed fandom towards Dex, no doubt. Between the severed arm, the game, the hounding, and how he has attached himself to one of the few people that spends time in his sanctuary and sacred place - his home with his son - it proves the he wants to know more, is some sort of crazed admirer (or more) and that he knows way more about Dex than your avg. person.

ITK infiltrated Dex's apt.
Doakes did as well...
Prado knew about the DP.
Trinity found out who he was, got inside his home and got his wife.
J.Chase never backed down and even knowing what eventually he knew, he wanted to attack and push forward vs. Dex.
This season: Looks like Travis will push, infiltrate himself in a way, by maybe even harboring Harrison and taking what is sacred to Dex.
Louis: ??? who knows... but he already has some sort of head start knowing things, per the game, per the arm and delivery of it he has planned, the spending of time w/ Bautista's sis and invading Dex's space.

[Calcifer]

Louis: ??? who knows... but he already has some sort of head start knowing things, per the game, per the arm and delivery of it he has planned, the spending of time w/ Bautista's sis and invading Dex's space.



I definitely don't think he will be a killer, a possibly theory could be Louis somehow suggesting possible kills for dexter, possibly trough his video game or replacing his bloodslides( his all broke remember) with that of those he wishes him to kill, he probably has a dark passenger of his own but lacks the ability to actually take a life so he uses his computer skills/manipulation to get Dexter to do the work for him.

Dexter could even discover the character model for the bay harbor butcher in his game and that it is not Doakes but him!:horror

[Dark Passenger]

He has some sort of infatuation, a liking... a crazed fandom towards Dex, no doubt. Between the severed arm, the game, the hounding, and how he has attached himself to one of the few people that spends time in his sanctuary and sacred place - his home with his son - it proves the he wants to know more, is some sort of crazed admirer (or more) and that he knows way more about Dex than your avg. person.

ITK infiltrated Dex's apt.
Doakes did as well...
Prado knew about the DP.
Trinity found out who he was, got inside his home and got his wife.
J.Chase never backed down and even knowing what eventually he knew, he wanted to attack and push forward vs. Dex.
This season: Looks like Travis will push, infiltrate himself in a way, by maybe even harboring Harrison and taking what is sacred to Dex.
Louis: ??? who knows... but he already has some sort of head start knowing things, per the game, per the arm and delivery of it he has planned, the spending of time w/ Bautista's sis and invading Dex's space.

Oh yeah, Travis definitely gets into Dexter's apartment, but Travis doesn't really care at all what Dexter is though. Travis is just a sick F looking to sacrifice Harrison during a Lunar eclipse. I'm kind of hoping that he does. It would make Dexter child free, and hopefully, more ruthless in season 7. Although killing a kid, especially one so young is something that rarely happens on TV.

How stupid would it be if while at Dexter's apartment Travis intercepts the package from Louis and Dexter never gets it? Wouldn't put it past some of the writing this season.

[Droog Alex]

Oh yeah, Travis definitely gets into Dexter's apartment, but Travis doesn't really care at all what Dexter is though. Travis is just a sick F looking to sacrifice Harrison during a Lunar eclipse. I'm kind of hoping that he does. It would make Dexter child free, and hopefully, more ruthless in season 7. Although killing a kid, especially one so young is something that rarely happens on TV.

How stupid would it be if while at Dexter's apartment Travis intercepts the package from Louis and Dexter never gets it? Wouldn't put it past some of the writing this season.

Dude, I hear yah... I said it weeks ago. Killing Harrison would mean so much for the show. LOL, I can't believe I just said that. :rotfl

But seriously, it's just another tragedy for Dex; as I mentioned in past posts, how he still struggles keeping his DP and alternate life, separate from those that he cares for. Yes, caring, something that ultimately the show is about, how this stone cold killer, does have human emotions.

How he lost Rita, he lost Harrison and how maybe, who knows? Maybe even Deb. Heck, season 1, that scene with his brother wrapped up on that table... gut wrenching. The emotion Dex showed, how it hurt him to see Brian there, but he needed to do what he did because of Deb.

How he eventually showed emotions and proposed to Rita and her kids. How he was pained by Rita's death. How he was pained when Harrison was in the hospital. And a few others; a main theme on the show, and a reason why Dex was so endearing, the fact that even though he had no identifiable marks as a 'human' per say, and how he carried out acts with his DP, but still, had that side of him that was human -- that light. A reference that was used so much earlier in the season when Sam was alive.

It may sound f'ed up, but Harrison going bye-bye may mean more to show in terms of content. Especially since they are working the whole, Ded and Dex getting close theme. That could do it... drive it home more and make it even more crazier when and if Deb finds out about Dex.

Although I will say this, one of my thoughts on how the show will end is that Dex and Deb have a confrontation, Deb finds out, with Dex ultimately dying, with only Deb knowing his secrets and then, being left alone with Harrison... the end.

Open ended -- with us thinking, assuming and conjuring up thoughts--how will Deb raise that boy knowing who his father was. :hi5:

[crows]

all this Louis talk is making me wonder If They will try to recreate season 1 in season 7, having someone taunt Dexter and doing what the Ice Truck Killer did but with a twist or something,
I mean, there are a lot of interesting ways it could go,
he could become Dexter's sidekick, maybe a disciple, and help Dexter
Or
Louis could go after Dexter, and working with Dexter could mean Louis always has the upper hand,
or they could Even set it up for Dexter to teach Louis the Code and make Louis Dex's replacement after Dexter dies or something, while leaving Deb with Harrison.
I don't know, i hope they come up with something good

[Droog Alex]

all this Louis talk is making me wonder If They will try to recreate season 1 in season 7, having someone taunt Dexter and doing what the Ice Truck Killer did but with a twist or something,
I mean, there are a lot of interesting ways it could go,
he could become Dexter's sidekick, maybe a disciple, and help Dexter
Or
Louis could go after Dexter, and working with Dexter could mean Louis always has the upper hand,
or they could Even set it up for Dexter to teach Louis the Code and make Louis Dex's replacement after Dexter dies or something, while leaving Deb with Harrison.
I don't know, i hope they come up with something good

He's already taunted him somewhat with the video game...

He obviously designed that with Dexter in mind based on what we've seen: 1. he purchased that severed arm 2. he packed it and was going to address to him 3. the video-game unveiling and how he wanted to show to him.

He may be totally enamored with Dex and 'his work.' His computer prowess may have lead him to find out a lot about Dex. Sure, there may be a chance he wants to "help" Dex et., but we've found out already that that usually does not end well (i.e., M.Prado) and the only other person that did, and lived... was Lumen. And truth be told, like I said weeks ago, and especially now with 2 years to go, maybe that loose end gets tied somehow... or maybe it never does (i.e. like The Sopranos, and that lost Russian from the 'Pine Barrens' episode).

[Devil_666]

or replacing his bloodslides( his all broke remember)

:confused:

They didn't break. The problem was, they were organized (so he knew which slide/blood belonged to what victim) and after falling out he couldn't tell one slide from the next since they all look the same.

[Calcifer]

:confused:

They didn't break. The problem was, they were organized (so he knew which slide/blood belonged to what victim) and after falling out he couldn't tell one slide from the next since they all look the same.

Oh that's right they did:slap, my bad!

There goes that theory!:pow