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dr2red
09-18-2008, 05:12 AM
Please post your theories here.


We know that Massive Dynamics is run by Walter's old lab buddy but I think he is all robot or has massive (get it) replacement parts.
Peter is a clone of his father Walter.
Olivia is a ?. More on her later.

Please be respectful of other peoples theories even if they seem weird to you!

Ironman1188
09-18-2008, 06:13 AM
And what is Broyle's real purpose? Episode 2 started off with him introducing his "new team" to the bionic Massive Dynamic's lady. What is the agenda of that secret(?) gathering? I know Broyles said that he allowed her certain info, but that meeting seemed more him answering to them then vice versa.

magman3
09-18-2008, 06:15 AM
Please post your theories here.


We know that Massive Dynamics is run by Walter's old lab buddy but I think he is all robot or has massive (get it) replacement parts.
Peter is a clone of his father Walter.
Olivia is a ?. More on her later.

Please be respectful of other peoples theories even if they seem weird to you!


Robot? That'll be interesting to see!

Wow, didn't even think about Peter being a clone of Walter, but its possible. He's extremely smart like his father. Lots of hints floating around.

Olivia is a ? (HOTTY!!).

I've watched the first two episodes and have to say, this show has potential!

Natrix
09-18-2008, 06:36 AM
And what is Broyle's real purpose? Episode 2 started off with him introducing his "new team" to the bionic Massive Dynamic's lady. What is the agenda of that secret(?) gathering? I know Broyles said that he allowed her certain info, but that meeting seemed more him answering to them then vice versa.

They are a top-secret committee whose mission is to investigate The Pattern.

Ironman1188
09-18-2008, 06:38 AM
They are a top-secret committee whose mission is to investigate The Pattern.

Got that, but its never good for the good and the "bad" to be working together, especially secretly. If FOX lets this show live, they'll be more to that situation.

dr2red
09-24-2008, 08:26 AM
Walter dabbled in a great deal of weird stuff and what he and Bill worked on is coming back years later to affect humankind.

Massive Dynamics have their hands in all kinds of strange things.
I am really enjoying this show and can't wait until next week.

The ill Jedi
09-24-2008, 08:30 AM
Missed last nights show, but DVR'd it, I am loving all of the old experiments coming back around as well!

Hulksmashed
09-24-2008, 09:36 AM
Please post your theories here.


We know that Massive Dynamics is run by Walter's old lab buddy but I think he is all robot or has massive (get it) replacement parts.
Peter is a clone of his father Walter.
Olivia is a ?. More on her later.

Please be respectful of other peoples theories even if they seem weird to you!

I tend to wonder if Walter's old Lab buddy still exists. The bionic arm lady sure seems to run things, and knows everything (Hell maybe she IS walters old lab buddy in robot form or brain transplant). They could have fixed a dead womans body with bionic parts and replaced the brain.

I wonder if peter is a clone, or if Walter genetically enhanced him? He seems to be a pretty good at just about everhthing and has an IQ of 190! Maybe he even died as a chid and walter brough him back (with improvments?)

I have a feeling walter's past isnt as nefarious as it seems. I think he was put in the mental hospital because he was framed, OR because he did something morally way over the line to save his family (or maybe his son being brought back from the dead??).

Olivia is something for sure! A result of something in the early days of the pattern? The bionic arm lady says "all of these things started to happen when you joined. I could say that YOU were the cause of all of this" Its obviously intended to make the point that Olivia's logic was flawed in implicating Massive Dynamic, but i think it was probably more.

Finally, the "traitor" from episode 1. The guy that loved Olivia. When they talked at the end of last nights episode they talked about finally hacking the "disk" and files were being downloaded then. Then they show wires attatched from the dead guy to the computer. Is it possible that both him and Olivia are artificial beings?

Chimera 1
09-24-2008, 11:31 AM
I am thinking that Olivia's old partner was like Johhnie Neumonic and only had one piece of the puzzle. I think whoever can talk on that higher frequency has a disk implanted in them. The Bionic woman definitely has some stuff with her and I am not sure Walters Lab partner is alive in human form. I think he may be in a computer as some sort of AI. I hope they don't go the alien route because that would ruin the show but there is some higher technology in play. Walters son I doubt is a clone but he was probably enhanced somehow if not genetically. As for Walter being framed, the best place to hide the truth is in a mental institution.

dr2red
09-24-2008, 01:15 PM
Who was that guy in the restaurant taking pictures of Peter?
PI or enemy?
Walter clued in fast but Peter tried to cover it up.

Sick Boy 82
09-24-2008, 01:18 PM
Who was that guy in the restaurant taking pictures of Peter?
PI or enemy?
Walter clued in fast but Peter tried to cover it up.

The guy(s) he is in trouble with. Just like Olivia said when she kinda blackmailed him in Iraq, she knew he was in trouble, but didn't know the real story.

Chimera 1
09-24-2008, 01:22 PM
I think Walter and Peter are linked psychicly somehow.

-Super Hans-
09-24-2008, 05:14 PM
this isnt on u.k tv yet (coming soon) :monkey2:monkey2 sounds like another lost

Yippy
09-24-2008, 09:46 PM
this isnt on u.k tv yet (coming soon) :monkey2:monkey2 sounds like another lost


Maybe you can catch it here-
http://www.hulu.com/

Hulksmashed
09-25-2008, 08:18 AM
Who was that guy in the restaurant taking pictures of Peter?
PI or enemy?
Walter clued in fast but Peter tried to cover it up.

His name is Phil. He is a free lance homosexual photographer that has an affinity for the show Daweson's Creek. :D

The Ween
09-25-2008, 08:02 PM
Maybe you can catch it here-
http://www.hulu.com/

Or here......

http://www.fox.com/fringe/

dr2red
09-28-2008, 01:30 PM
this isnt on u.k tv yet (coming soon) :monkey2:monkey2 sounds like another lost

I could never get into lost but this show has me hooked. They have a mythology but each episode could be considered a stand alone.
One of the few shows that I have to watch.:D

The Mike
09-30-2008, 10:16 PM
After tonight's episode I have a feeling that the gravesite of Robert Bishop will come further into play. Walter told Peter that both he and Peter were dead before the Observer saved them....I have a feeling that the moment which ties the Bishops to Massive Dynamics will play out there.

Chimera 1
10-01-2008, 08:01 AM
After tonight's episode I have a feeling that the gravesite of Robert Bishop will come further into play. Walter told Peter that both he and Peter were dead before the Observer saved them....I have a feeling that the moment which ties the Bishops to Massive Dynamics will play out there.

I agree and my theory was correct. they are linked psychicly somehow and I think it has to do with them dying and being saved by the Observer. Walter said Peters body was horribly contorted which means i think Walter cloned Peter from his son "Robert" who was killed in the car crash. Why else would the grave be in the middle of nowhere. Can't have a grave for a son who isn't dead, that would cause red flags.

Darklord Dave
10-01-2008, 09:56 AM
They obviously want us to think the Observer is from the future, I'm hoping that's a red herring.
More frickin' time travel - it's such a can of worms you'd think TV writers would know better by now.

The Mike
10-01-2008, 11:57 AM
I'm not sure if we are supposed to think that the Observer is from the Future. He was present at things going on 20/30 years prior and hasn't aged. I'm almost inclined to think he is like Marvel's Watcher, timeless, ageless and doesn't get involved in the actual goings on. He broke that with Walter so there must be a reason and called in his favor which means he isn't completely on the sidelines but working under someone. The tech he was using I would attribute to Massive Dynamics but the question really is whether he is using the tech or was instrumental in providing it.

I was getting more of an alien vibe than a time traveller vibe off of him. Not to mention his diet of spicy foods and nothing cold, he also told Walter he couldn't taste the Root Beer Float, means if hes not Alien he is certainly altered.

dr2red
10-01-2008, 12:28 PM
I agree and my theory was correct. they are linked psychicly somehow and I think it has to do with them dying and being saved by the Observer. Walter said Peters body was horribly contorted which means i think Walter cloned Peter from his son "Robert" who was killed in the car crash. Why else would the grave be in the middle of nowhere. Can't have a grave for a son who isn't dead, that would cause red flags.

Roberts date of death was I think 1944. So who is this mysterious Robert!
Here is a page with the tombstone and further speculation
http://eastereggs.fringetelevision.com/2008/10/episode-104-tombstones.html

-Super Hans-
10-01-2008, 12:50 PM
starts sunday for me :rock cant wait

Chapter 2099
10-01-2008, 03:40 PM
Roberts date of death was I think 1944. So who is this mysterious Robert!
Here is a page with the tombstone and further speculation
http://eastereggs.fringetelevision.com/2008/10/episode-104-tombstones.html

That's exactly what I want to know? (Actually, I hate spoilers so I really don't want to know until its revealed in the show. :D) Maybe a brother of Walter's? Which may have influenced his interest in the sciences.

Darklord Dave
10-01-2008, 04:58 PM
I'm not sure if we are supposed to think that the Observer is from the Future. He was present at things going on 20/30 years prior and hasn't aged. I'm almost inclined to think he is like Marvel's Watcher, timeless, ageless and doesn't get involved in the actual goings on. He broke that with Walter so there must be a reason and called in his favor which means he isn't completely on the sidelines but working under someone. The tech he was using I would attribute to Massive Dynamics but the question really is whether he is using the tech or was instrumental in providing it.

I was getting more of an alien vibe than a time traveller vibe off of him. Not to mention his diet of spicy foods and nothing cold, he also told Walter he couldn't taste the Root Beer Float, means if hes not Alien he is certainly altered.

Everything you cited makes me think he's from the future - he's evolved so his tastebuds have changed and he has no hair. He never ages because he's popping back to the past at the time of the event and only hangs around for that period of time. So all the events he's observing are within a short time frame for him.

The Mike
10-01-2008, 05:31 PM
See I think otherwise, I think more alien than time traveler which would naturally make the chemical make up different. Everything would be different including tastebuds, etc. We'll have to see how this plays out.

As for Robert, maybe Walter is cloned from the deceased Robert showing why he is so cooky because of an issue with the cloning process....either way I'm heads and tails for this show. Never caught on with Lost but I love Fringe.

darthviper107
10-01-2008, 11:56 PM
I bet the bald guy is a robot--makes sense to me

pjunk
10-02-2008, 12:04 AM
i think the writers of the show were cloned from those who wrote for the xfiles. this new scully is a lot hotter and the smoking man has less hair.

dr2red
10-03-2008, 02:56 AM
It is interesting to note that Darin Morgan of X-files Fame is working on the show as a consulting producer. Not sure if he wrote any eps but I can feel the Morgan influence.

Chimera 1
10-09-2008, 01:05 PM
Everything you cited makes me think he's from the future - he's evolved so his tastebuds have changed and he has no hair. He never ages because he's popping back to the past at the time of the event and only hangs around for that period of time. So all the events he's observing are within a short time frame for him.

I hope they don't go alien with it because then it would lose something for me. I can deal with time travel though like 12 monkeys. Maybe the process of time travel affects the body (loss of hair, taste etc). The tech he used was like a concussion blast. It hurt Peter but left no physical damage. Like a sound wave weapon.
The spiral egg thing was interesting. It was affected by vibration, like it could trigger earthquakes etc. Things are getting very interesting on this show. Aliens would be to easy an out and would ruin the shows credibility.

Chapter 2099
10-14-2008, 07:42 PM
The Observer strikes AGAIN! In tonight's ep. (Power Hungry), I spotted him walking out of an elevator in the beginning of the episode. Oddly enough, it was so fast that one might ponder why even show him at all. It was literally a 1 - 2 second appearance and the episode made NO mention of him AT ALL. Just goes to show you how important the Observer has the potiential to be. Thanks to Natrix and dr2red for the verification.

Chapter 2099
10-15-2008, 01:32 PM
http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30952

The originator.

I don't get it. What does this have to do with the TV series 'Fringe?'

Chapter 2099
10-15-2008, 02:30 PM
Now here's a conspiracy, who deleted the post that I replied to above. :confused: I was hoping someone could let me know what that had to with the TV series Fringe.

The Chaver
10-15-2008, 03:56 PM
Now here's a conspiracy, who deleted the post that I replied to above. :confused: I was hoping someone could let me know what that had to with the TV series Fringe.

My bad,I thought this was another conspiracy thread,and not a TV series.:duh :monkey4 :o

Chapter 2099
10-15-2008, 04:58 PM
My bad,I thought this was another conspiracy thread,and not a TV series.:duh :monkey4 :o

:lol That's cool. I was thinking: "Where is he going with this?" But that explains it.

On another note, do you watch Fringe? If not, it's a great show. Check it out. :cool:

The Chaver
10-15-2008, 05:23 PM
:lol That's cool. I was thinking: "Where is he going with this?" But that explains it.

On another note, do you watch Fringe? If not, it's a great show. Check it out. :cool:

No,but if it has anything to do with conspiracies,then I'm down.

What channel?

Chapter 2099
10-15-2008, 05:28 PM
If it has anything to do with conspiracies,then I'm down.

What channel?

Fox. Tuesday nights at 9:00 PM EST. It I had to describe it, I'd say its a modernized version of the X-Files, with more emphasis on the "pseudo-sciences" (aka "fringe" sciences.) Check out this thread and the other Fringe thread for more details. (But beware, you may encounter spoilers.)

It's one of the few shows, in quite a while, that I've grown a liking to.

The Chaver
10-15-2008, 05:34 PM
Fox. Tuesday nights at 9:00 PM EST. It I had to describe it, I'd say its a modernized version of the X-Files, with more emphasis on the "pseudo-sciences" (aka "fringe" sciences.) Check out this thread and the other Fringe thread for more details. (But beware, you may encounter spoilers.)

It's one of the few shows, in quite a while, that I've grown a liking to.


I"ll check it out.Thanks

Chimera 1
10-17-2008, 11:47 AM
The Observer strikes AGAIN! In tonight's ep. (Power Hungry), I spotted him walking out of an elevator in the beginning of the episode. Oddly enough, it was so fast that one might ponder why even show him at all. It was literally a 1 - 2 second appearance and the episode made NO mention of him AT ALL. Just goes to show you how important the Observer has the potiential to be. Thanks to Natrix and dr2red for the verification.

It makes me want to watch the pilot episode to see if i can spot him. i know they showed pictures of him on later eps but I want to spot him now that i know what to look for.
On another note, when did astrix or arrid or whatever her name is get over her anger at Walter for drugging her? I must have missed that. I saw when he apologized to her and she just ignored him but I must have missed her return to the lab.

Bannister
10-17-2008, 03:31 PM
http://www.fringe-forum.com/forums/images/img/observerclue2.jpg