ALIEN 5?

[The Mike]

Weaver Hints At Alien Resurrection
posted by Jay Cocrock in Movies at 09:59 AM on 2008.08.05
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Source: WENN

Actress SIGOURNEY WEAVER has hinted she may return to her iconic role in a fifth installment of the ALIEN franchise.

Weaver starred as steely space Lieutenant Ellen Ripley in the cult sci-fi movies, last playing the character in 1997's Alien Resurrection.

And the star isn't ruling out a return to the big screen for another Alien film - insisting no one else could take on the role.

She says, "I would feel very weird if they brought her (Ripley) back and cast someone else." But the actress insists she will only take on projects if the plotline works: "I don't care whether the budget is big or small, or if it's a lead role or not. If the story's good, I'm there."

[tomandshell]

"I want proof, not leads!"

[EVILFACE]

Written by James Cameron and Directed by Riddley Scott is the only way I would watch it.

[-Super Hans-]

"I want proof, not leads!"

:lol :lol

IM SURE SHES SAID THIS ALOT.

[pjam]

Fox does NOT want to make an Alien Sequel last I heard -- and I heard it from a very good source at Fox who told this to my Rep. But this was 6 months ago.

They may have changed their minds with Ridley's career in a dive and desperate for a Commercial success and yes, sadly it does matter, even with him (Robin Hood project just died too) -- so maybe they are pushing it, I don't know.

But Ripley died in A3 so I don't know how they could pull it off with Sigourney. Plus she's like over 50 yrs old...

Fox is a very conservative Company, much more so than many of the other Studios and they are very frugal/cheap as well.

I don't see this happening at all. But I've been wrong before.

[tomandshell]

I just think that her saying in an interview that she wouldn't want to see someone else play the role is not quite the announcement I was hoping for.

I think that more AVPs (with unknown actors) is the direction of the franchise, from the POV of the accountants at Fox.

[Sick Boy 82]

But Numb3rs is cool! Leave poor Ridley alone!!

[The Mike]

But Ripley died in A3 so I don't know how they could pull it off with Sigourney. Plus she's like over 50 yrs old...

In A:R they brought her back, I would assume if they did do a film it'd be along these lines again. Of course there always were grumblings that they'd go back and "replace" some of the sequels.....

[CelticPredator]

One part says YES, the other part of me says ^^^^ NO. THEY'll ONLY ruin the Alien series EVEN more, then AvP-R did.

Im torn.

[CelticPredator]

Actually, I have the perfect Alien story, that will not only bring Ripley back, but have a realistc way of bringing the Aliens back, without cloning. It would also be on Earth, just because.

[8th wonder]

Actually, I have the perfect Alien story, that will not only bring Ripley back, but have a realistc way of bringing the Aliens back, without cloning. It would also be on Earth, just because.


Earth is a bad move.

[YoNoSe]

If her involvement means she can rope in some of her old buddies, I say do it. I don't hate AVP or AVPR as B-movies but I'd love to see some A-listers get involved again. I'd love to see the alien actually be scary again.

[screamingmetal]

I'm all for another Alien film, but with Sigourney involved, it just reminds me of the bad taste that AVPR left me with.
If it has Colonial Marines in it I'll definitely watch it.
But this sounds more like conjecture then anything concrete.

[creature4000]

The only way another Alien flick would do well is if it had the flavor of Aliens!!!!

[pjam]

The only way to do it is as a Dream Piece --

Ripley's dream aboard the Nostromo (too old for that unless they completely CGI her from an earlier age or she dreams about the future) or later dreaming aboard the Narcissus. This would also be the ONLY way to bring back Newt and Hicks.

Let's face it Resurrection killed the original Franchise -- it was in Whedon's own words his "personal Vietnam" and it was for Fox as well. No one wants to see another resurrected Ripley that way...

Earth? Bad idea. "No one can hear you scream in... Manhattan?" :lol

The good news? There are story lines which could work for the Original Franchise but I just don't see any of them working with Ripley.

[Sick Boy 82]

I think if they did one of the Alien books, that would be ok. I really like the books. Well, most of them. Hell, I'd even go for a Predator movie from one of the books!!

[pjam]

I think if they did one of the Alien books, that would be ok. I really like the books. Well, most of them. Hell, I'd even go for a Predator movie from one of the books!!

I think you're on the right track there. Again, plenty of stories to work with and work up, it's just that Fox is NOT interested, or wasn't.


Let's hope a successful T4 will change their minds.

[RJMacReady16]

This stuff makes me mental.:banghead

Why do they feel that the Alien films have to be directly linked to Ripley and her possible offspring? This is what killed Aliens 3 and Resurrection. There are so many directions they could've taken this thing but they crowbarred Weaver in there again and again.

Same w/ AvP...we now have 2 films with civilians on earth getting caught in the middle. For one, those franchises on their own have legs to go on forever and to this day I'll never know why they felt forced to combine them. But if you absolutely have to make another AvP, throw some military resistance in the middle of it all (preferably colonial marines, but at this point some good ole' USofA marines would work fine).

[CelticPredator]

Earth is a bad move.
Not really. Its the only place for the Ripley character's story arc to end at.

This stuff makes me mental.:banghead

Why do they feel that the Alien films have to be directly linked to Ripley and her possible offspring? This is what killed Aliens 3 and Resurrection. There are so many directions they could've taken this thing but they crowbarred Weaver in there again and again.


Because the Space Jockey is the only place where the Aliens exist. Screw the AvP films. ALL Aliens died after Alien 3...except one...that would be my idea.

And that one is The Queen. She's out there...floating.

[RJMacReady16]

Not really. Its the only place for the Ripley character's story arc to end at.



Because the Space Jockey is the only place where the Aliens exist. Screw the AvP films. ALL Aliens died after Alien 3...except one...that would be my idea.

And that one is The Queen. She's out there...floating.

The xenomorph's ship crash-landed on the mining colony in Alien, right?

It's not completely out of the realm of possibility to make contact with a different ship, is it? After all we are dealing with aliens and space miners to begin with...

[Gruson]

Make a REAL Alien3 with her and bring back Newt and Hicks.

Now that would rock!!!

Everything after Aliens never happened anyway, right?

:)

[CelticPredator]

Alien 3 is the best. Newt and Hicks died.

[CelticPredator]

The xenomorph's ship crash-landed on the mining colony in Alien, right?

It's not completely out of the realm of possibility to make contact with a different ship, is it? After all we are dealing with aliens and space miners to begin with...

But dont want to see it. Please, keep the Aliens a mystery, they've had enough shown of them, and its pushing them further and further into Generic Movie Monster of the Week.

[Sick Boy 82]

Really, I could do without Ripley. I don't think she defines the Alien movies, the Aliens do.

If the gods (Cameron & Scott) were to come back to the franchise, I would hope that Ridley would do his work on the prequel to it all, the Space Jockey storyline. He talked about doing that movie and then of course was never able to. I think we need a real Alien origin story.

But someone also talked about a back story for Weyland Yutani. I really liked the ending (not the movie, the ending) of AVP2 with the Weyland Yutani stuff. I think it could be an interesting arc.

To bad that Fox has completely ruined the Alien and Predator franchise. Whores!!!!!

[CelticPredator]

Thanks to that story arc from AvP-R.

So no, AvP-R doesnt exist. Predators dont exist in Alien world, and yes, Ripley is important....however, I could deal with a Ripley-less movie.

[Zoolander]

Thanks to that story arc from AvP-R.

So no, AvP-R doesnt exist. Predators dont exist in Alien world, and yes, Ripley is important....however, I could deal with a Ripley-less movie.

the alien skull in P2 says different

[Nacho]

Written by James Cameron and Directed by Riddley Scott is the only way I would watch it.

Amen to that.

[Dr.FeelGood]

Hmmm...another Alien?

With the current trend in HollyWood being to re-invent, dont be supprised if one day very soon we see a remake of Alien, with teenagers as the main cast, running around half naked, screaming, talking about smoking a joint...one of them will be pregnant, i can feel it. And the Alien will be wandering around mindlessly killing them....you'll see.....



Oh and Joker, Love the sig :D....one of the best laughs in the movie :P

[Blackhole]

I thought the only reason that Sigourney Weaver did Alien: Ressurection was to stop the studios from making Alien vs Predator...

Then it happened anyway...twice...

Besides, Ripley is dead according to Aliens vs Predator vs The Terminator...

And I'm sure that'd be better than anything the studios can throw out...

Unless they got Ridley Scott or James Cameron back...:monkey3

[Karatka]

Thanks to that story arc from AvP-R.

So no, AvP-R doesnt exist. Predators dont exist in Alien world, and yes, Ripley is important....however, I could deal with a Ripley-less movie.

From the perspective of a future Alien film, does the existience of the AVP movies matter? It's a big galaxy, and the Predators don't have to be everywhere. Ignoring the books and comics, by the timeframe of the Alien films they could have migrated away, or just decided to steer clear of a now-spacefaring Human species.

Assuming the events of AVP-R are in continuity, Weyland-Yutani know about spacefaring extraterrestrials, have a small sample of alien tech, and know of the existence of the Aliens before the events of Alien. I don't see anything in there which contradicts the film's backstory... they're still working on very minimal information, and woefully unprepared for the reality. If anything, the effectiveness of the 'fast breeder' Aliens in the AVP movies explains why the Company is so keen to get one, and the confirmed existence of advanced spacefaring aliens explains why the Nostromo would be so readily diverted to investgate an unknown signal.

Nothing in the AVP movies affects the content of any future films.

[CelticPredator]

The Predator is the sole creator of ALL future Tech? Weyland Yutani, even though Weyland was alive in AvP?? YUTANI???? They already KNEW about the Aliens, even when it was clear they didnt?

No.

[Blackhole]

The Predator is the sole creator of ALL future Tech? Weyland Yutani, even though Weyland was alive in AvP?? YUTANI???? They already KNEW about the Aliens, even when it was clear they didnt?

No.

Wait, what? :google:google:google

[CelticPredator]

All that was in AvP, and AvP-R.

[Karatka]

Ummm... where in those films?

There's no mention of Weyland - Yutani in AVP-R; only "Mrs Yutani". Seems that Weyland and Yutani are two as separate corporate entities - they presumably end up merging. Yutani gets a Predator handgun. That is supposed to kickstart space travel technology (directors' comments) - it's still human development, just with a little boost. It's not like they've lifted Predator starship technology wholesale.

Likewise, please explain where the contradiction is between the information gathered on the Aliens in AVP-R (shocked eyewitness accounts, a few surveillance photos) and what W-Y have in Alien / Aliens / Alien3. It does actually help to support why the Company takes such an active interest... it's not just Ripley's rantings, they KNOW there is an amazing bio-weapon out there because they have a historical account of its effectiveness in wiping out a small city.

(Yeah, I've literally just finished watching the directors' comments on AVP-R).

[CelticPredator]

But...why would you listen to those baised fanboys? I stopped.

Weyland was in AvP, Yutani was in R, its obvious what will happen, but still. I HATE that they're connecting these ^^^^ films to the Alien series, it just cheapens them.

[Entropy]

It's obvious in just reading this thread the whole mythology is a convoluted mess at this point. No way they can tell a good Alien story anymore with Ripley starring that isn't just a retread of what came before. Time to do something new with both the Alien and Predator franchises.

[CelticPredator]

I would agree. A stand alone story would work...

[Karatka]

But...why would you listen to those baised fanboys? I stopped.


Well... they're fellow fans, with a genuine affection for what they were doing; that much is obvious. And actually, that's the problem, they were making the Aliens vs Predator movie they wanted to see.

It was actually quite enlightening to see how many of the 'odd' points in the film they were aware of, but apparently lacked the time and / or money to fix (why Wolf doesn't get disintegrated by acid in the final fight, for example).

Anyway, I agree... if the franchises are to continue it needs to be with a separate Alien 5 / Predator 3. I don't see that the AVP films muck around with continuity at all to prevent this... Alien Resurrection is a much bigger problem there.

[RJMacReady16]

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[CelticPredator]

When the Strauses say they want to see 40ft Aliens stomp around, I've had enough. They seem like nice guys, but are totally clueless on what makes an Alien/Predator movie (or a movie) good. Not just rip-off shots from other movies....

[Simone]

Alien 3 is the best. Newt and Hicks died.

Right on!

I'm puzzled why anybody who considers Aliens the best by long and far would be fundamentally unhappy with the AvP franchise? It can easily be tweaked to your folks liking I reckon. :confused:

If there's to be an Alien 5, it would have to be something with the feel of Alien and/or A3.

[ozzfan84]

They may have changed their minds with Ridley's career in a dive and desperate for a Commercial success and yes, sadly it does matter, even with him (Robin Hood project just died too) -- so maybe they are pushing it, I don't know.


Didn't American Gangster do really well last year?

[woodsy]

Right on!

I'm puzzled why anybody who considers Aliens the best by long and far would be fundamentally unhappy with the AvP franchise? It can easily be tweaked to your folks liking I reckon. :confused:

If there's to be an Alien 5, it would have to be something with the feel of Alien and/or A3.

I'm puzzled how anyone could compare Aliens, one of the highest rates sci- fi/action movies of all time, with the horrific AVP franchise. You are in serious need of a reality check if you're going to suggest the AVP series isn't that far removed from a movie that won two oscars [seven nomination's, including a best actress nom. at a time when it was virtually unheard of to honor sci-fi's movie's in this category] and is pretty well on every top ten list in it's field. :rolleyes:

[CelticPredator]

I LOVE Aliens, and I LOVE the characters. But Alien 3 is also great, and closer to Alien then the others. I like that. Newt and Hicks werent needed in that movie.

[8th wonder]

I'm puzzled how anyone could compare Aliens, one of the highest rates sci- fi/action movies of all time, with the horrific AVP franchise. You are in serious need of a reality check if you're going to suggest the AVP series isn't that far removed from a movie that won two oscars [seven nomination's, including a best actress nom. at a time when it was virtually unheard of to honor sci-fi's movie's in this category] and is pretty well on every top ten list in it's field. :rolleyes:


They aint even in the same freaking ballpark.

[woodsy]

I LOVE Aliens, and I LOVE the characters. But Alien 3 is also great, and closer to Alien then the others. I like that. Newt and Hicks werent needed in that movie.

I thought Alien 3 was a very good movie. I wouldn't put it up there with Aliens, but a good movie nonetheless, and yes it was more in line with Alien.

They aint even in the same freaking ballpark.

They're not even in the same solar system.

[CelticPredator]

I agree with everything, except for this....




As for Hicks and Newt, IIRC, in the commentary by David Fincher for A3, he said Biehn was paid more for the use of his likeness in a 2 second flash on the screen than he was for doing all of Aliens. Was killing off Hicks, Bishop and Newt a good idea? I don't know, but I think it's fair to say that fans had invested in those characters and should they have been killed off in the BEGINNING of the film versus at another point in the film is a very good question. The death of a major character should have some emotional resonance on the audience. You don't kill big characters just to kill them, you kill them to make a point, to drive the story, to give the protagonist conflict, to ramp up the idea that no one is safe. When and how you kill them ( a point I think many are making) is just as important as if you kill them. Alien is a franchise, even if you don't like the earlier movies, it's essential in the story telling that there is some continuity of themes and story arcs from film to film. You are just not telling one story in a franchise, you are a creating a world. The relative value of Hicks and Newt means nothing to Aliens 3 alone, but it does mean something if you step back and consider the continuity of the franchise.
GG


Ok, the entire point of killing them drove the story. Ripley was alone. That drove her to do the things she did. Everyone she's loved, or known was dead. Everyone. She didnt care if she lived or died, she just wanted ONE thing, to ensure the company DOESNT get the Alien. The chestburster sealed her fate, and she knew what she had to do. Its quite perfect. I liked hicks and newt as much as anyone...but there were more issues at play then just continutiy....Carrie Henn got older, which would totally ruin the idea of cryosleep, and plus, the whole story with them wouldnt work on that planet.