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Road Blaster
01-29-2016, 01:20 PM
Bronson - 8/10

Sweet Rabbit
01-29-2016, 03:47 PM
Hercules - 3/10

highlander1
01-29-2016, 04:03 PM
INTRUDERS. A Fast supense twisted one. I give a 7 very fast fun ,crazy. I didnt even recognize little RORY Culkin.

https://youtu.be/VUxySz-eJj0

KBA
01-29-2016, 06:13 PM
Backcountry - 7/10. Decent for what it is with a truly memorable bear attack that stays with you.

Ant Man - 6/10. Love Rudd, and the idea behind the shrinking was pretty cool. The antics (jajaja) were a little too hokey for me.

The Force Awakens - 6/10. I dunno. Carrie Fischer was painful to watch, the third Death Star felt like a trolling, I could go on for a bit, but the first half of the movie was pretty engaging and enjoyable.

meth head
01-30-2016, 03:48 AM
Spotlight 9/10

Burn the Catholic Church to the ground!!!!!!

meth head
01-30-2016, 03:55 AM
Isn't that one supposed to be based on a graphic novel or something and not the bible?

That's right. Aronofsky pitched the film to studios a long time ago but nobody wanted it, so he went away and created the graphic novel in order to get studios to take the screenplay more seriously.

Aronofsky freely admits this story/screenplay is a complete embellishment on what little is known about the story and life of Noah. He is kinda filling in the blanks.

Sweet Rabbit
01-30-2016, 04:51 PM
Hot Tub Time Machine 2 - 1/10

GasparZizou
01-30-2016, 05:01 PM
That's right. Aronofsky pitched the film to studios a long time ago but nobody wanted it, so he went away and created the graphic novel in order to get studios to take the screenplay more seriously.

Aronofsky freely admits this story/screenplay is a complete embellishment on what little is known about the story and life of Noah. He is kinda filling in the blanks.

Cool, have you read it? Is it any good?

Road Blaster
01-30-2016, 05:48 PM
The Dark Knight Rises - 9/10

RIDDICK
01-30-2016, 05:59 PM
The Dark Knight Rises - 9/10

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/615/060/058.jpg

VintijDroidGutzz
01-31-2016, 12:46 AM
I caught the first 'X Files' film again for the first time in years, & I'd forgotten most of it.

A solid enough movie, & I liked the story. However I'm not sure that - because I haven't finished the TV series yet, jumping ahead to the first movie helped much, but anyway. I thought some of the E.T moments towards the end at the underground facility in Antractica were a little 'B' horror movie schlock-ish & a bit too derivitive of other major properties.. but overall a good watch, & I might buy it if I see it around.

7.8 / 10.

Road Blaster
01-31-2016, 02:21 AM
Memento - 9/10

xipotec
01-31-2016, 07:45 AM
The Martain 8/10

Lost a point becuase I read the book......

Goosebumps 5/10

Rise of Planet of Apes. 7.5/10

Snake Plissken
01-31-2016, 08:22 AM
The Dark Knight Rises - 9/10

http://i.imgur.com/cSk1BOF.gif

WWEJedi
01-31-2016, 08:34 AM
Have fun with this one.

The Godfather (first hour or so, couldn't make it through the whole thing)

boring/10

Nothing is wrong with the movie. I just was never invested into the characters, didn't care about them. Never really cared for mob styles shows/movies to begin with. It seemed like it just kept going without anything happening aside from some random dude getting choked out and another with a horse head. Way to many characters that are hard to keep track of. Just isn't a movie I can enjoy.

rushmore223
01-31-2016, 08:50 AM
Have fun with this one.

The Godfather (first hour or so, couldn't make it through the whole thing)

boring/10

Nothing is wrong with the movie. I just was never invested into the characters, didn't care about them. Never really cared for mob styles shows/movies to begin with. It seemed like it just kept going without anything happening aside from some random dude getting choked out and another with a horse head. Way to many characters that are hard to keep track of. Just isn't a movie I can enjoy.

Can't wait to see your ratings for Citizen Kane, Casablanca, 2001, Apocalypse Now and Psycho.

Uncanny Web-Slinger
01-31-2016, 10:04 AM
Ladies in Lavender - 8/10

Superb period drama with an amazing cast of Judi Dench, Maggie Smith, Daniel Bruhl, Natascha McElhone, Miriam Margolyes and a who's who of British talent

amvmm
01-31-2016, 10:20 AM
Everest - 7/10

Road Blaster
01-31-2016, 10:38 AM
Paths of Glory - 8/10

Uncanny Web-Slinger
01-31-2016, 12:20 PM
John Carter - 8/10

Really good adventure movie. Loved the editing of scenes like when John was escaping from the union commander only to be secured better in the next scene and his being treated as a baby hatchling. Loved his having to learn to walk in the different gravity and his jump powers. The aliens and their tribal culture was cool and unlike avatar inoffensive.

Wasn't a fan of the romantic sub-plot though

xipotec
01-31-2016, 02:47 PM
John Carter - 8/10

Really good adventure movie. Loved the editing of scenes like when John was escaping from the union commander only to be secured better in the next scene and his being treated as a baby hatchling. Loved his having to learn to walk in the different gravity and his jump powers. The aliens and their tribal culture was cool and unlike avatar inoffensive.

Wasn't a fan of the romantic sub-plot though

Spoiler tags

YoNoSe
01-31-2016, 03:24 PM
The aliens and their tribal culture was cool and unlike avatar inoffensive.


Who was offended by Avatar?

SnakeDoctor
01-31-2016, 04:42 PM
Black Sails XIX & XX. 9/10. Never watched Black Sails before. Can't vouch for the whole series ... but these two episodes were pretty badass.

SnakeDoc

Road Blaster
01-31-2016, 05:12 PM
The Killing (1956) - 8/10

GasparZizou
01-31-2016, 05:19 PM
Spoiler tags

What for?

Snake Plissken
01-31-2016, 07:13 PM
Hellraiser - 8/10

Patriot666
01-31-2016, 07:18 PM
Frozen 3D - 7/10 Thanks UK for the blu ray.

highlander1
01-31-2016, 09:35 PM
Dirty Grandpa. This is absolute garbage couldnt even finish skip this trainwreck i have lost respect for Deniro after watching this.

cmiller99
01-31-2016, 10:33 PM
Cool Hand Luke - 9/10

snoop101
01-31-2016, 10:55 PM
Dirty Grandpa. This is absolute garbage couldnt even finish skip this trainwreck i have lost respect for Deniro after watching this.

Seriously? Who gives a s**t.

GasparZizou
01-31-2016, 11:15 PM
American Psycho - 7.5/10

Cixx
02-01-2016, 03:28 AM
Hateful Eight 6/10

amvmm
02-01-2016, 03:39 AM
Crimson Peak - 6.5/10.

EVILFACE
02-01-2016, 04:29 AM
WWEJed - 3/10 - Tries to hard.


Can't wait to see your ratings for Citizen Kane, Casablanca, 2001, Apocalypse Now and Psycho.

Citizen Kane - 7/10
Casablanca - 8/10
2001 - 9.5/10
Apocalypse Now - 8.5/10
Psycho - 8.5/10

Snake Plissken
02-01-2016, 04:45 AM
Dirty Grandpa. This is absolute garbage couldnt even finish skip this trainwreck i have lost respect for Deniro after watching this.

He sure has loved making bad film after bad film for more than a decade now.


American Psycho - 7.5/10

http://i.imgur.com/1aqpEjC.gif

highlander1
02-01-2016, 11:44 AM
Yep Deniro is a favorite actor in lots of movies but he's been crappin out garbage and collage humor depicts this perfectly in this skit.

https://youtu.be/dC815ZjTr-U?t=3

GasparZizou
02-01-2016, 12:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/1aqpEjC.gif
Something wrong? Pliss? You're sweating...

EarlHickey98
02-01-2016, 12:23 PM
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly: 7.5/10
Prometheus: 8/10
Leon the Professional: 8.8/10
Walk the Line: 8/10
Goosebumps:5/10

Snake Plissken
02-01-2016, 12:43 PM
Something wrong? Pliss? You're sweating...

I'm fine, I'd just appreciate you keeping your comments and hands to yourself.

http://i.imgur.com/xoAvmTH.gif

GasparZizou
02-01-2016, 01:03 PM
I'm fine, I'd just appreciate you keeping your comments and hands to yourself.

http://i.imgur.com/xoAvmTH.gif

http://i.imgur.com/nrGZNGi.png?1

SnakeDoctor
02-01-2016, 01:15 PM
Dirty Grandpa. This is absolute garbage couldnt even finish skip this trainwreck i have lost respect for Deniro after watching this.

I didn't read their whole review, but IGN's summary of their review was "Dirty Grandpa is a nasty, unfunny comedy about horrible people." That's pretty definitive.

SnakeDoc

WWEJedi
02-01-2016, 01:17 PM
WWEJed - 3/10 - Tries to hard.


You clearly don't try hard enough.

1/10

Snake Plissken
02-01-2016, 01:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nrGZNGi.png?1

Vurrry guuud :lol

Plastic Bateman
02-01-2016, 03:13 PM
I had the rare privilege recently of introducing a friend who doesn't watch many films to the Star Wars trilogy last weekend. For his edification, I obtained some copies of the 1993 Laserdisc releases. Having not seen the films myself in quite some time, and certainly not having seen them without all of Lucas' CGI bobbins polluting the screen since I was about 8 years old, it was like I was watching them for the first time again too.

A New Hope - 9/10
Empire Strikes Back - 10/10
Return of the Jedi - 7/10

Empire being the closest thing to an utterly flawless movie I've ever seen, coupled with a massive nostalgia rush, means this may be the only 10/10 I'll ever award. I'd love to give Jedi more points - it has some of the most stand-out moments of all three films - but then the Ewoks happen :ohbfrank:

One thing's for sure, I now take a much dimmer view of the prequels than I did a week ago...

YoNoSe
02-01-2016, 03:22 PM
Howl - Ugh/10

All I wanted out of this was for a werewolf to bite somebody's face off and it never even came close. A few nice images of wolf-y people with glowy eyes walking around in the fog.

Creep - 6/10

Very self-conscious found footage thriller. If that's not enough to keep you away, it's a great performance from Mark Duplass at the forefront most of the time.

Snake Plissken
02-01-2016, 04:05 PM
I had the rare privilege recently of introducing a friend who doesn't watch many films to the Star Wars trilogy last weekend. For his edification, I obtained some copies of the 1993 Laserdisc releases. Having not seen the films myself in quite some time, and certainly not having seen them without all of Lucas' CGI bobbins polluting the screen since I was about 8 years old, it was like I was watching them for the first time again too.

A New Hope - 9/10
Empire Strikes Back - 10/10
Return of the Jedi - 7/10

Empire being the closest thing to an utterly flawless movie I've ever seen, coupled with a massive nostalgia rush, means this may be the only 10/10 I'll ever award. I'd love to give Jedi more points - it has some of the most stand-out moments of all three films - but then the Ewoks happen :ohbfrank:

One thing's for sure, I now take a much dimmer view of the prequels than I did a week ago...

We all have different opinions obviously... but Empire is one that across the board (no pun intended) should always get a 10/10. Otherwise, you just hate great film making.

WWEJedi
02-01-2016, 05:17 PM
I had the rare privilege recently of introducing a friend who doesn't watch many films to the Star Wars trilogy last weekend.
One thing's for sure, I now take a much dimmer view of the prequels than I did a week ago...

https://45.media.tumblr.com/f6251497804088ae69f3066479a84037/tumblr_nsmxfqI3bd1qkko3bo1_400.gif

Plastic Bateman
02-01-2016, 05:43 PM
We all have different opinions obviously... but Empire is one that across the board (no pun intended) should always get a 10/10. Otherwise, you just hate great film making.

I have one simple rule when rating things - reality is fundamentally imperfect, therefore nothing ever gets a perfect 10. I love Empire so much, I'll make an exception.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlKoiJu9TsQ

Films still haven't caught up to this, it's honestly timeless.

Road Blaster
02-01-2016, 05:50 PM
Phenomena - 8/10

EarlHickey98
02-01-2016, 07:03 PM
Birdman - 8.5/10

highlander1
02-01-2016, 08:28 PM
FLIRTING WITH DISASTER. Ben Stiller Patricia Arquette Tea Leonii a lot of good stars in this film. I dont know how to rate really a crazy story of Ben Stiller looking for his real parents but with a lot wimsy antic's along the way. I guess mayba rate a 4 because great casting but lots of weard action's of story during film had me yelling WTF ??? Worth a watch a quick short messed comedy.

YankeesFanboy
02-01-2016, 08:44 PM
X2 - 80/100.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-01-2016, 09:01 PM
We all have different opinions obviously... but Empire is one that across the board (no pun intended) should always get a 10/10. Otherwise, you just hate great film making.

ESB - 7.7/10

http://i.imgur.com/2BPvoGk.gif


Oh...and Terminator and Terminator 2 >>>>>>>>> SW and ESB.

http://i.imgur.com/i3GnPmN.gif

highlander1
02-01-2016, 11:53 PM
THE GOON. A ABSOLUTE SOLID 10 BAD ASS Hockey Movie a New flippin favorite. One of Seann William Scott's best films along with Liev Schreiber very fun fast film.

darthkostis
02-02-2016, 12:04 AM
Fury: 8.5/10

A well made and intense movie. Sure, some things are glossed over and the "story" takes a back-seat to the characters but damn, if they're not enjoyable. Their interactions, the effects the war has on them, the "transformation" of Norman, all were great. As I said, a nice war flick that is sure to entertain you for the entirety of its 2 hour run time.

American Sniper: 8/10

This was a solid, well-made and well-acted movie, but I feel that something was... "missing". The effects the war had on Kyle were mostly the usual "hears sceams and is always on alert", which, while realistic, could have been fleshed out a little more. I could've done with a bit less of combat scenes, if it meant getting a deeper insight is Kyle's psyche post his return.

PS: That was an awful way to go though. Survive 4 tours only to die like this? Truly sad.

Snake Plissken
02-02-2016, 04:35 AM
ESB - 7.7/10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMoeS4Cu9qo

Mad Old Lu
02-02-2016, 09:09 AM
Goosebumps: 7/10
I really enjoyed it. Never read the books or saw the show. It had good, fun, engaging characters and a fun story. Danny Elfman’s soundtrack was great—back to his old style like MIB, Beetlejuice or Pee Wee’s Big Adventure. I have to point out that it felt very cinematic in how it was filmed. Strangely there were spots were it looked like cheap digital “film”, but other times it felt like a grand spectacle movie. I liked a lot of the effects that were made to look more old school practical effects, like the gnomes and even the smoke coming out of the books effect. That ferris wheel scene at the end was very impressive. It’s a good family movie. If I was 12 years old, it would be my favorite!

ZsaszSays
02-02-2016, 12:45 PM
Goosebumps was suprisingly a good, fun movie. I would say 7/10 as well.

Unfriended 0/10...pure garbage. Couldnt even finish it. The teenage drama ******** was just too much to try to stomache.

Django Unchained for the 4th time 9/10

The Force Awakens for the second time in theaters 5/10

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-02-2016, 01:02 PM
Child 44- 5/10 I don't know if the Russian accents were good, but the acting is pretty good, but the story is all over the place.

RIDDICK
02-02-2016, 01:18 PM
Child 44- 5/10
What did you expect? It's a US thriller film based on a British novel about pre Great Patriotic War serial killer.
The entire thing is as stupid as it gets. :lol

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-02-2016, 01:25 PM
What did you expect? It's a US thriller film based on a British novel about pre Great Patriotic War serial killer.
The etire thing is as stupid as it gets. :lol

:lol

Are the Russian accents good though? I've heard that Russian accents in most films always sound really fake and are inaccurate.

RIDDICK
02-02-2016, 01:50 PM
Are the Russian accents good though?
I wouldn't be able to sit through this garbage without laughing at bad accents. :D
Added a lot to the overall ridiculousness.

Road Blaster
02-02-2016, 02:09 PM
The Matrix - 10/10

jstep13
02-02-2016, 03:07 PM
Sucker Punch 5/10

The 400 Blows 7/10

ZsaszSays
02-03-2016, 12:22 AM
The Green Inferno 6.5/10

darthkostis
02-03-2016, 12:28 AM
Zodiac: 8.5/10

Selma: 9/10

Philomena: 8/10

VintijDroidGutzz
02-03-2016, 02:45 AM
I watched the 2007 'Beowulf' movie the other night for the first time -- 6.8 / 10

Ehh.. I enjoyed it actually. Looking at it in context though, it wasn't really breaking that much new ground. Sure, they captured the likenesses of those big Hollypoopers & animated them, but so what. I think that 'Final Fantasy : the spirits within' is a much better movie, DID actually break new ground - & is six years it's senior.

It's a classic story, but the new film's PS3 cut scene graphics (while fine some of the time), devolve into PS2 cut scene territory a little too often in some scenes, & don't hold up unfortunately. Still, the movie has some cool stuff in there; like the whole Grendel arc in the earlier part of the movie. Anyway, I found the collectors set for $5, so what the hey. :lol

jstep13
02-03-2016, 01:16 PM
Hero (Li) 6.5/10

Room 7.5/10

Road Blaster
02-03-2016, 08:17 PM
The Matrix Reloaded - 8/10

highlander1
02-04-2016, 12:13 AM
A Walk in the Woods. Robert Redford ,Nick Nolte go for a Hike along the Appalachian Trail. I didnt think i would like as much as did but Long hikes do a lot for the human spirit. A fun trek on this one give a 5.

jstep13
02-04-2016, 01:32 AM
Cartel Land (2015) 6/10

Narco Cultura (2013) 8/10

Binged watched 'em both on Netflix & I know CL got nominated for Best Doc but NC is the far better doc on the subject.

Mad Old Lu
02-04-2016, 09:59 AM
Transformers Age of Extinction: 6/10
I think I like this one the best. Honestly I can't even remember what the other three were about or any specific scenes. I just remember barely being able to pay attention to them because they were so unengaging and too much visual noise. I think Bay toned it down slightly and the action sequences were a little easier to follow. I think Shia being gone helped a lot! They totally left it open for a sequel. And talk about catering to the Chinese market, what with having the climax of the film take place in Hong Kong!

ziggywas
02-04-2016, 10:55 AM
Absolutely Anything - 5/10

highlander1
02-04-2016, 11:14 AM
Absolutely Anything - 5/10

I Have no idea who Approved this movie but who ever was Absolutely Wasted or hi to approve the script. I feel bad this was one of Robin Williams last film's. I like Simon and Kate but OMG a crazy nonsense film.

Road Blaster
02-04-2016, 02:22 PM
The Matrix Revolutions - 8/10

RIDDICK
02-04-2016, 03:43 PM
X-Files S1 - 8,5/10
X-Files S2 - 8,5/10



The Matrix Reloaded - 8/10

The Matrix Revolutions - 8/10
Feel smarter but don't know why? Must be good. :lol

jstep13
02-04-2016, 03:46 PM
13 Hours 7/10

Road Blaster
02-04-2016, 08:54 PM
Eat (2014) - 4/10

VintijDroidGutzz
02-04-2016, 11:46 PM
X-Files S1 - 8,5/10
X-Files S2 - 8,5/10
Absolutely, I just finished watching them too. :hi5: :duff

highlander1
02-05-2016, 01:12 AM
Seeking a friend for the end of the world. Steve Carell n Kiera Knightly

Steve gets lucky enough to hang with Cute Kiera for the end lucky s.o.b not a bad way to go. I give it a 7.

Sweet Rabbit
02-05-2016, 05:57 AM
Our Brand Is Crisis - 7/10

darthkostis
02-05-2016, 06:53 AM
Z for Zachariah: 7.5/10

The Theory of Everything: 9/10

Legend: 8.5/10

RIDDICK
02-05-2016, 07:33 AM
Absolutely, I just finished watching them too.
hi5
:duff

Some episodes aren't really good or just boring, mostly spiritual/afterlife ones.
But the main plot is very good and episodes about biological stuff are always entertaining.
Great cinematography for a 90s TV series.

Seeing "Darkness Falls" ep again was like "NOSTALGIA OVERLOooooAD!" :panic:
Loved this series as a school kid.

K07
02-05-2016, 08:49 AM
I couldn't get into the X-Files. I gave it a whole season. When I run out of other TV Shows in my Netflix queue I'll return to them. I know it's not fair to judge a show by its initial season but there were other shows I wanted to give a try that hooked me after only one season.

rushmore223
02-05-2016, 09:09 AM
I couldn't get into the X-Files. I gave it a whole season. When I run out of other TV Shows in my Netflix queue I'll return to them. I know it's not fair to judge a show by its initial season but there were other shows I wanted to give a try that hooked me after only one season.

I don't know why you don't think it's fair to judge a show in the first season, you either like it or you don't, why waste time past the first season if it's not for you?

Snake Plissken
02-05-2016, 09:26 AM
I think I gave it two seasons when it originally aired and bailed on it. Saw the films, but I wouldn't say I'm a fan in any stretch.

Road Blaster
02-05-2016, 09:54 AM
I Know What You Did Last Summer - 7/10

K07
02-05-2016, 05:38 PM
I don't know why you don't think it's fair to judge a show in the first season, you either like it or you don't, why waste time past the first season if it's not for you?

True. I gave up on Walking Dead and Mad Men after one season. But I hated those and have no desire to revisit them. I didn't hate X-Files. I just didn't love it.

There are some shows that get better as the series progresses. Seinfeld's first few seasons are my least favorite and I find all but a handful of episodes in TNG's first two seasons unwatchable.

Road Blaster
02-05-2016, 05:54 PM
Urban Legend - 7/10

pturtle
02-05-2016, 09:55 PM
The Matrix Revolutions - 8/10

Preach brother preach!

I'd give TDKR an 8, and Matrix Reloaded a 9 though, but still some solid ratings there.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

GasparZizou
02-05-2016, 10:44 PM
Preach brother preach!

I'd give TDKR an 8, and Matrix Reloaded a 9 though, but still some solid ratings there.
Those of us who can truly appreciate the Matrix trilogy are a minority.

rushmore223
02-05-2016, 10:50 PM
Those of us who can truly appreciate the Matrix trilogy are a minority.

You make it sound like those that don't like it are unable to grasp its profundities.

GasparZizou
02-05-2016, 10:52 PM
That's exactly what I mean. 2deep4u.

rushmore223
02-05-2016, 11:00 PM
That's exactly what I mean. 2deep4u.

:rotfl

Yeah, ok.

GasparZizou
02-06-2016, 12:14 AM
:rotfl

Yeah, ok.

concordantly

VintijDroidGutzz
02-06-2016, 01:35 AM
I liked the first Matrix movie fine, but after watching it again for the first time in years, it doesn't have rewatch value for me.

The other two? No thanks :lol

Road Blaster
02-06-2016, 09:15 AM
Preach brother preach!

I'd give TDKR an 8, and Matrix Reloaded a 9 though, but still some solid ratings there.


:duff

The Matrix Trilogy is so amazing. The highway sequence in Reloaded is some of the best action in any movie ever.

a-dev
02-06-2016, 09:43 AM
I thought Reloaded and Revolutions were pretty good sci-fi actioners, some ridiculous dialogue notwithstanding.

RIDDICK
02-06-2016, 09:58 AM
I thought Reloaded and Revolutions were pretty good sci-fi actioners.
As much sci-fi as the Star Wars. :)

VintijDroidGutzz
02-06-2016, 11:54 AM
The second one was ****ing stupid, sorry. :lol

The third one did nothing for me.

rushmore223
02-06-2016, 11:57 AM
I hated the first two, never made it to the third one.

GasparZizou
02-06-2016, 12:07 PM
God damn, I'll have to marathon the trilogy soon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY_pTVfz3gU


As much sci-fi as the Star Wars. :)

Matrix is more sci-fi than Star Wars will ever be.

rushmore223
02-06-2016, 12:17 PM
God damn, I'll have to marathon the trilogy soon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY_pTVfz3gU



Matrix is more sci-fi than Star Wars will ever be.

Star Wars is Fantasy, if Matrix isn't sci-fi, then I don't know what it is.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-06-2016, 12:17 PM
Those of us who can truly appreciate the Matrix trilogy are a minority.

They're pretty good. My favorite is still the first one, but I really like part 2 even though it was completely different from what I was expecting. It's too bad NECA or some other company doesn't have the license to make figures from the trilogy.

GasparZizou
02-06-2016, 12:27 PM
Star Wars is Fantasy, if Matrix isn't sci-fi, then I don't know what it is.
But, that's what I'm saying. :lol


They're pretty good. My favorite is still the first one, but I really like part 2 even though it was completely different from what I was expecting. It's too bad NECA or some other company doesn't have the license to make figures from the trilogy.
I hear that a lot, "it didn't go were I was expecting", where could it have possibly gone? :lol if you understood the story from the beginning, the development of the trilogy was pretty telegraphed.

Yeah, I've always wanted a Revolutions Neo, so ****ing snazzy.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iL70zHv_XC8/THBJCnV0Q8I/AAAAAAAAD9U/QrwiEWM58IY/s1600/neo.jpg

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-06-2016, 12:35 PM
I hear that a lot, "it didn't go were I was expecting", where could it have possibly gone? :lol if you understood the story from the beginning, the development of the trilogy was pretty telegraphed.

Yeah, I've always wanted a Revolutions Neo, so ****ing snazzy.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iL70zHv_XC8/THBJCnV0Q8I/AAAAAAAAD9U/QrwiEWM58IY/s1600/neo.jpg

Those heels tho :lol That's a Reloaded Neo.

What I mean is, by the end of the first film, Neo is Superman and he tells the Matrix that he's going to wake people up and change everything because he's the "one," but then in part 2, the new agents are stronger, Smith is back for no reason...even he couldn't explain it, and we find out that Neo is not the first "one," just the latest "one" :lol And eventually, the trilogy is about Neo fighting Smith...which is not what we're led to believe at the end of the first Matrix. So instead of being about Neo vs the Matrix and defeating it, it becomes about Neo vs Smith again, making a deal with the Matrix to save it, and things pretty much stay the same. I still like the films for what they are, but my expectations were higher....and that's my fault.

GasparZizou
02-06-2016, 01:00 PM
Those heels tho :lol That's a Reloaded Neo.
Isn't it the same suit he uses in his final fight with Smith?



What I mean is, by the end of the first film, Neo is Superman and he tells the Matrix that he's going to wake people up and change everything because he's the "one,"
And he ultimately does that, despite we later know the true cycle of the one.


but then in part 2, the new agents are stronger, Smith is back for no reason...even he couldn't explain it,
Because Smith was also an anomaly.


and we find out that Neo is not the first "one," just the latest "one" :lol And eventually, the trilogy is about Neo fighting Smith...
But that's not really all about it, it was ultimately about the salvation of mankind, Neo vs Smith was only the vehicle for that.


Which is not what we're led to believe at the end of the first Matrix. So instead of being about Neo vs the Matrix and defeating it, it becomes about Neo vs Smith again, making a deal with the Matrix to save it, and things pretty much stay the same. I still like the films for what they are, but my expectations were higher....and that's my fault.
They don't stay the same at all, and it was never about Neo vs the Matrix, Neo was a cyclical anomaly that always ended in the decimation of mankind, rebuild Zion, and do it all again, over and over, you are right about the fact that you're led to believe that, but that is before you know the full story.

In the trilogy Neo succeed in making a deal with the machines, save mankind so they can continue to progress, giving the first steps to getting out of the ****hole, the cycle was broken.

Hell, if you're familiar with the "extended stuff", you know the machines aren't the bad guys, humans are (or were) :lol

So I wouldn't say expectations for this were too high, I'd say they were misplaced altogether, and I'm pretty sure most people just didn't get it, not that is ocean deep or anything.

Road Blaster
02-06-2016, 01:43 PM
V for Vendetta - 9/10

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-06-2016, 01:44 PM
Isn't it the same suit he uses in his final fight with Smith?

Yeah, but I guess since he wore that outfit for the first time in Reloaded, I see it as a Reloaded costume. When I think of Neo in part 3, I think of the blind Neo wearing the Zion clothes.


And he ultimately does that, despite we later know the true cycle of the one.

Kind of...but he didn't do it by defeating the Matrix, right? The Matrix still exists and they are using people...or growing them...right?



Because Smith was also an anomaly.

That is true...he wanted to get out in the first film, but I didn't buy it when Smith was like, "I don't fully understand how it happened, perhaps some part of you imprinted onto me, something overwritten or copied. It is at this point, irrelevant. What matter is that whatever happened, happened for a reason." I was like, that's the best explanation for him coming back?



But that's not really all about it, it was ultimately about the salvation of mankind, Neo vs Smith was only the vehicle for that.

Yeah, I get that, but perhaps I was expecting a different vehicle and a different outcome. I think most people felt that way.



They don't stay the same at all, and it was never about Neo vs the Matrix, Neo was a cyclical anomaly that always ended in the decimation of mankind, rebuild Zion, and do it all again, over and over, you are right about the fact that you're led to believe that, but that is before you know the full story.

In the trilogy Neo succeed in making a deal with the machines, save mankind so they can continue to progress, giving the first steps to getting out of the ****hole, the cycle was broken.

Hell, if you're familiar with the "extended stuff", you know the machines aren't the bad guys, humans are (or were) :lol

So I wouldn't say expectations for this were too high, I'd say they were misplaced altogether, and I'm pretty sure most people just didn't get it, not that is ocean deep or anything.

Misplaced is a good way of looking at it, but like you said, we don't get the full story in the first film, but we don't know that at the time, so when all these other elements are added to the story, it just wasn't what I initially thought it was going to be, and that's not the film's fault.

Does the deal involve the machines not using humans? Because if the machines are still using the humans and the Matrix still exists, then I don't see how Neo changed anything, other than the peace treaty which means that the Machines won't bother the humans...which is ok, but the machines still rule and people are still asleep, right? And isn't that what Morpheus and Neo wanted to change, initially?

GasparZizou
02-06-2016, 01:55 PM
Kind of...but he didn't do it by defeating the Matrix, right? The Matrix still exists and they are using people...or growing them...right?
Not kind of, he does change everything, Zion was supposed to be destroyed and the cycle was supposed to start from scratch all over again.

Zion was saved, they can keep freeing people, mankind has a chance now, the Matrix is still using people as batteries because that's how they survive, and it was all because of humans to begin with.



Yeah, I get that, but perhaps I was expecting a different vehicle.
Like what?



Misplaced is a good way of looking at it, but like you said, we don't get the full story in the first film, but we don't know that at the time, so when all these other elements are added to the story, it just wasn't what I initially thought it was going to be. Does the deal involve the machines not using humans? Because if the machines are still using the humans and the Matrix still exists, then I don't see how Neo changed anything, other than the peace treaty which means that the Machines won't bother the humans...which is ok, but the machines still rule and people are still asleep, right? And isn't that what Morpheus and Neo wanted to change, initially?
No, the deal just involves not destroying Zion. The machines need humans to survive.

You really don't see it? The machines will let Zion alone, humanity can start aiming for restoring itself the way it was before they ****ed everything up and the machines took over, the machines were always willing to coexist with mankind.

Yes, that's what Morpheus wanted, and they can eventually get there, and the machines don't quite "rule", they just survive.

Were you expecting that everyone in the Matrix was disconnected and the evil machines were destroyed? That's just lame :lol Humans had it coming, and the machines are being nice by letting humans get their **** together little by little, which is a chance the machines didn't get from the humans.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-06-2016, 02:18 PM
Not kind of, he does change everything, Zion was supposed to be destroyed and the cycle was supposed to start from scratch all over again.

Zion was saved, they can keep freeing people, mankind has a chance now, the Matrix is still using people as batteries because that's how they survive, and it was all because of humans to begin with.

How can they do that...freeing people? If the machines still need humans and the humans still want to free people...doesn't that create a problem all over again? If i need something to exist, and you and your friends are going to keep trying to take it away from me, we're going to have a problem eventually, so doesn't that just continue the cycle of humans vs machines?




Like what?

Something not involving Smith and the deal. I know you think that fighting the evil machines and freeing all humans is lame, and it's predictable and obvious, but that's what Neo and Morpheus promised me. :monkey2





No, the deal just involves not destroying Zion. The machines need humans to survive.

You really don't see it? The machines will let Zion alone, humanity can start aiming for restoring itself the way it was before they ****ed everything up and the machines took over, the machines were always willing to coexist with mankind.

I really don't see how the machines just want to coexist. To me, they were no different than Skynet, but even if they want to coexist, how is that going to happen when the humans are trying to wake more people? There's a conflict of interest.


Yes, that's what Morpheus wanted, and they can eventually get there, and the machines don't quite "rule", they just survive.

Were you expecting that everyone in the Matrix was disconnected and the evil machines were destroyed? That's just lame :lol Humans had it coming, and the machines are being nice by letting humans get their **** together little by little, which is a chance the machines didn't get from the humans.

Traitor!!! :cuss *cries while saying it like Kylo Ren*


Seriously, the machines are scary as **** :lol The only reason they didn't kill Neo was because they needed him...and look how angry they got when Neo said that they needed him. They are bad...and scary. Human will get killed once they start ****** with the machine's food.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds0ShgV_e9M

RIDDICK
02-06-2016, 02:19 PM
Matrix is more sci-fi than Star Wars will ever be.

if Matrix isn't sci-fi, then I don't know what it is.
"The Matrix" is Star Trek .
Its sequels are Star Wars PT.
:)

Sweet Rabbit
02-06-2016, 02:22 PM
Bridge of Spies - 9/10

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-06-2016, 02:23 PM
Bridge of Spies - 9/10

I saw it last night :hi5:

GasparZizou
02-06-2016, 02:33 PM
How can they do that...freeing people? If the machines still need humans and the humans still want to free people...doesn't that create a problem all over again? If i need something to exist, and you and your friends are going to keep trying to take it away from me, we're going to have a problem eventually, so doesn't that just continue the cycle of humans vs machines?
Not really, if the humans and the machines manage to coexist, as the machines wanted initially, they could find another way for both to coexist, that's up to the future.

I don't want to ruin if it you haven't watched the animatrix, you should, it explains a lot, it's not really "extended stuff" as I initially said, it's intended to go along with the movies.




Something not involving Smith and the deal. I know you think that fighting the evil machines and freeing all humans is lame, and it's predictable and obvious, but that's what Neo and Morpheus promised me. :monkey2
Yes, before knowing the Machines aren't really evil.



I really don't see how the machines just want to coexist. To me, they were no different than Skynet, but even if they want to coexist, how is that going to happen when the humans are trying to wake more people? There's a conflict of interest.
Again, Animatrix.

And they don't want to coexist, they wanted to coexist, the humans ****ed that up, and it's up to the humans to reach that state with the machines again, it's a fascinating scenario of AI/Humanity future conflict imo.

The movie doesn't have to feed the "then what?" to you, Neo managed to bring change and a chance to humanity, it's up to humanity to figure it out from then on.



Traitor!!! :cuss *cries while saying it like Kylo Ren*
You need a teacher!


"The Matrix" is Star Trek .
Its sequels are Star Wars PT.
:)

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy332/athenryegm/Yotsuba_NO.jpg

He.... He didn't get it.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-06-2016, 02:43 PM
Yes, before knowing the Machines aren't really evil.

When do they find out in the film that the machines aren't evil? Is that in the Animatrix?



Not really, if the humans and the machines manage to coexist, as the machines wanted initially, they could find another way for both to coexist, that's up to the future.

I don't want to ruin if it you haven't watched the animatrix, you should, it explains a lot, it's not really "extended stuff" as I initially said, it's intended to go along with the movies.


Again, Animatrix.

And they don't want to coexist, they wanted to coexist, the humans ****ed that up, and it's up to the humans to reach that state with the machines again, it's a fascinating scenario of AI/Humanity future conflict imo.


Maybe I don't remember because it was mentioned in the film, but you keep bringing up the Animatrix, but don't you think that information is vital to the story, and it should be in the film? Because, I had no idea that the machines wanted to coexist, knowing that changes everything and it makes the humans the villains, but that's not how it comes across in the actual film. In the film it looks like the machines are evil, and the poor humans are the victims. If that's the case, then it's a flaw to keep such an important piece of the history outside of the film.

GasparZizou
02-06-2016, 05:48 PM
When do they find out in the film that the machines aren't evil? Is that in the Animatrix?
Yes, and it's hinted in various occasions throughout the trilogy. Like when Morpheus says: "No one knows who started the war, but we do know it was us who fried up the sky."


Maybe I don't remember because it was mentioned in the film, but you keep bringing up the Animatrix, but don't you think that information is vital to the story, and it should be in the film? Because, I had no idea that the machines wanted to coexist, knowing that changes everything and it makes the humans the villains, but that's not how it comes across in the actual film. In the film it looks like the machines are evil, and the poor humans are the victims. If that's the case, then it's a flaw to keep such an important piece of the history outside of the film.
It's not vital to the story, everything you need to know about the story is in the story, and it shouldn't be in the movies because it's outside of the scope of any of the characters.

It's backstory, it deepens your understanding of the universe but it's not needed to tell the story that's being told, about Neo, the Matrix and Zion, and all the themes the movies handle, the story still clicks together without skipping beats without this information.

Besides, this isn't like some obscure SW EU comicbook, the Animatrix is intended to go along the movies, it's just another part of the trilogy and it was written by the Wachowskis as part of the "canon" of the movies.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-06-2016, 08:07 PM
Yes, and it's hinted in various occasions throughout the trilogy. Like when Morpheus says: "No one knows who started the war, but we do know it was us who fried up the sky."

Oh, come on...stretching

http://i.imgur.com/rMjO6jS.jpg

that entire sequence shows the machines as the villains, growing humans in fields, and turning us in to....*Morpheus holds battery.* It's exposition, and we learn what we need to know about their world, but it clearly makes the machines look like the villains with the humans living scared underground.



It's not vital to the story, everything you need to know about the story is in the story, and it shouldn't be in the movies because it's outside of the scope of any of the characters.

It's backstory, it deepens your understanding of the universe but it's not needed to tell the story that's being told, about Neo, the Matrix and Zion, and all the themes the movies handle, the story still clicks together without skipping beats without this information.

It doesn't matter if their intention was to show the machines as the villains, which is how I initially saw it, but if what you said is the true and it is,


"they wanted to coexist, the humans ****ed that up, and it's up to the humans to reach that state with the machines again, it's a fascinating scenario of AI/Humanity future conflict imo.
The movie doesn't have to feed the "then what?" to you, Neo managed to bring change and a chance to humanity, it's up to humanity to figure it out from then on."

then it changes the whole story and how you view the ending and what's to come. Not having that extra information makes it look like Neo helped the evil machines to bring temporary peace to save Zion. The message of humans becoming better and wanting to coexist with the machines and all that doesn't come across in the film...if that was the whole point of Neo's sacrifice, so yes, I do think it affects how people view the film, the machines, and Neo's sacrifice. That little extra information makes the machines more tolerant and reasonable, but without it, they look like Skynet.


Besides, this isn't like some obscure SW EU comicbook, the Animatrix is intended to go along the movies, it's just another part of the trilogy and it was written by the Wachowskis as part of the "canon" of the movies.

I get that, there was a video game too, but when I saw the films in theater, all I needed to know was in the film, and the films made the machines look like evil villains and the humans like victims, and that was fine. To me it was a modern take on the Terminator concept of machines taking over, but with computers and Kung Fu.

Xenoburger_
02-06-2016, 08:37 PM
Major nerds.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-06-2016, 08:42 PM
Major nerds.

Matrix >>>> Alien

Xenoburger_
02-06-2016, 09:10 PM
Ignored again.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-06-2016, 09:12 PM
Ignored again.

:yess:

:lol:lol

EVILFACE
02-06-2016, 10:44 PM
Hail, Caesar! - ICantBelieveIPaidToWatchThis/10 - Uggg

rushmore223
02-06-2016, 10:50 PM
Hail, Caesar! - ICantBelieveIPaidToWatchThis/10 - Uggg

Really?

Do you like other Coen Brothers movies?

EVILFACE
02-06-2016, 10:55 PM
I like True Grit and No Country. Found Big Lebowski highly overrated. O Brother Where Art Thou was alright. Fargo has been on my list for some time.

This one seemed more like O Brother II but boring.

rushmore223
02-06-2016, 11:03 PM
I like True Grit and No Country. Found Big Lebowski highly overrated. O Brother Where Art Thou was alright. Fargo has been on my list for some time.

This one seemed more like O Brother II but boring.

Thanks, personally I like All the films you mentioned, especially love Lebowski. Recently their movies (A Serious Man, Inside Llewyn Davis) have been kind of tedious, at least to me.

I'll probably wait for video for this one.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-06-2016, 11:10 PM
I like True Grit and No Country. Found Big Lebowski highly overrated. O Brother Where Art Thou was alright. Fargo has been on my list for some time.

This one seemed more like O Brother II but boring.

Fargo is good, and the Fargo mini series was good too. No Country is probably better or at least I like it more, but Fargo is better than Big Lebowski and O Brother, imo.

jstep13
02-06-2016, 11:16 PM
Shaun of the Dead (7.5/10)

KBA
02-06-2016, 11:16 PM
Steve Jobs - 8/10 - Pretty neat way to do a film. Acting was great, Boyle was Boyle. Left me wanting another act.

The Danish Girl - 8.5/10 - Redmayne edged out Fassbender for the Oscar IMO - DiCaprio will probably get it, though watching him crawl across the Albertan range for 3 hours didn't do it for.

The Revnant - 7/10 - Not as great as I thought it might be. Tom Hardy was fantastic though.

highlander1
02-07-2016, 12:00 AM
SUPERMAN UNBOUND. It's pretty much Supes vs Brainiac with bad@$$ supergirl. I liked this one alot would make a very cool live action film love the end. Give a 8.

darthkostis
02-07-2016, 12:41 AM
Beasts of no Nation: 8.5/10

The Big Short: 8.5/10

GasparZizou
02-07-2016, 12:50 AM
Oh, come on...stretching
**** off that's not stretching :lol

Of course Morpheus is gonna tell the human side of the story with the knowledge that he has, which is not complete, he's human, but it's subtleties like those that let you in in the truth of the matter without spoon-feeding.



that entire sequence shows the machines as the villains, growing humans in fields, and turning us in to....*Morpheus holds battery.* It's exposition, and we learn what we need to know about their world, but it clearly makes the machines look like the villains with the humans living scared underground.
Yes that's true, doesn't go against anything I said :lol


It doesn't matter if their intention was to show the machines as the villains, which is how I initially saw it, but if what you said is the true and it is,
then it changes the whole story and how you view the ending and what's to come.
No it doesn't change the story at all.



Not having that extra information makes it look like Neo helped the evil machines to bring temporary peace to save Zion. The message of humans becoming better and wanting to coexist with the machines and all that doesn't come across in the film...if that was the whole point of Neo's sacrifice, so yes, I do think it affects how people view the film, the machines, and Neo's sacrifice. That little extra information makes the machines more tolerant and reasonable, but without it, they look like Skynet.
What makes you think it's temporary peace? Doesn't come across in the film? That's up to you, the movie clearly says Zion is to be destroyed time and time again EXCEPT this time, what humans do with this opportunity is up to them, and it's NOT up to the film to tell you what happens next.

The fact that the machines are evil or not doesn't affect the fact that Zion was saved by Neo and it doesn't affect the story, you haven't told me exactly how does this affect the story.

It affects how YOU view this world, but doesn't not affect the story in a structural way at all, the movies still function perfectly fine under the story and the themes are equally powerful.



I get that, there was a video game too, but when I saw the films in theater, all I needed to know was in the film, and the films made the machines look like evil villains and the humans like victims, and that was fine. To me it was a modern take on the Terminator concept of machines taking over, but with computers and Kung Fu.
The game doesn't count, I think, there were many games.

The Skynet thing was only a fraction of the themes in the movie, there still is the virtual reality thing, the power of will, the power of knowledge, etc etc, there were many underlying themes that make it a great sci-fi.

Sweet Rabbit
02-07-2016, 05:35 AM
Grease - 8.5/10

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-07-2016, 11:23 AM
but it's subtleties like those that let you in in the truth of the matter without spoon-feeding.

No, it doesn't. You can ask anyone, and they'll tell you that the machines were evil and unreasonable...not trustworthy or tolerant. It's not about spoon feeding. It takes one line or one scene to make it clear, but instead you have Smith, the Oracle, the French guy, and the the Architect babbling a bunch of bull ****.

Just have the Architect tell Neo, "In the year 2000 we gave your kind a chance to coexist in a better world, but you didn't take it because of pride...(or whatever). Your kind will never get that chance again." Until it happens in part 3 when the anomaly Smith becomes an unforeseen threat. Simple. It even makes the Architect scene more memorable. :lol



No it doesn't change the story at all.


The fact that the machines are evil or not doesn't affect the fact that Zion was saved by Neo and it doesn't affect the story, you haven't told me exactly how does this affect the story.

Well, not what happens literally. What happens still happens, by how that information is interpret by the audience does change when you have all the information that's not in the film, and that's just as important as what literally happens in a scene. If the meaning of a scene, a sequence, or the ending has a different connotation by knowing certain details that aren't in the film and the meaning is lost, then the audience is not getting the story.

If you watch a scene of a man shooting another man with a gun and that's all you know, and I ask you what happened, you'll say a man shot a guy. That's what literally happened. However, if some extra information is given to you, like the man that got shot was a rapist and a killer, and he killed the other man's family, when you watch the scene your view and understanding of it will not be the same. The same thing happens sure, but it makes more sense now that you have all the facts. Action without meaning, is meaningless.


What makes you think it's temporary peace? Doesn't come across in the film? That's up to you, the movie clearly says Zion is to be destroyed time and time again EXCEPT this time, what humans do with this opportunity is up to them

Not counting the animatrix and just by watching the films, what makes you think that the peace is not temporary? That the machines are trustworthy and that they'll keep their end of the deal? They never gave the audience any reason to trust the machines. What comes across is Neo making a deal with the enemy...instead of destroying them. Since there's no precedent of the machines wanting peace and wanting to coexist, it looks like Neo is taking a chance with an untrustworthy villain. If the information from the animatrix was in the film, then suddenly, we know that the machines are open to negotiate because there's a precedent, we know that Neo's sacrifice will be worth it, but more importantly, we understand why Neo no longer should destroy the machines, because they weren't that bad to begin with. None of that comes across in the film.



It affects how YOU view this world, but doesn't not affect the story in a structural way at all, the movies still function perfectly fine under the story and the themes are equally powerful.


No, it affects how people view the film, which was one of my points.



then it changes the whole story and how you view the ending and what's to come. Not having that extra information makes it look like Neo helped the evil machines to bring temporary peace to save Zion. The message of humans becoming better and wanting to coexist with the machines and all that doesn't come across in the film...if that was the whole point of Neo's sacrifice, so yes, I do think it affects how people view the film, the machines, and Neo's sacrifice. That little extra information makes the machines more tolerant and reasonable, but without it, they look like Skynet.


The story functions perfectly fine as poor humans fighting evil machines. The idea of reasonable machines wanting to coexist and humans being the ones having to adapt and accept the status quo, instead of defeating the machines for there to be true change, is totally lost and nonexistent, unless you watch the Animatrix. What literally happens or what comes across to most people, is Neo saved Zion by stopping the war temporarily, but the status quo doesn't change. Anyway, I think I'm done talking about it. This is another subject that will never end....unless you want to :lol

Sweet Rabbit
02-07-2016, 12:14 PM
The Godfather - 10/10

GasparZizou
02-07-2016, 12:14 PM
No, it doesn't. You can ask anyone, and they'll tell you that the machines were evil and unreasonable...not trustworthy or tolerant.
And most people just so happened to not get the movies.



Well, not what happens literally. What happens still happens, by how that information is interpret by the audience does change when you have all the information that's not in the film, and that's just as important as what literally happens in a scene. If the meaning of a scene, a sequence, or the ending has a different connotation by knowing certain details that aren't in the film and the meaning is lost, then the audience is not getting the story.

If you watch a scene of a man shooting another man with a gun and that's all you know, and I ask you what happened, you'll say a man shot a guy. That's what literally happened. However, if some extra information is given to you, like the man that got shot was a rapist and a killer, and he killed the other man's family, when you watch the scene your view and understanding of it will not be the same. The same thing happens sure, but it makes more sense now that you have all the facts.
None of it affects the fact that Neo saved Zion and that there was total change in the cycle and that humans have now a chance, the fact that the machines are evil or not is irrelevant to this.


Not counting the animatrix and just by watching the films, what makes you think that the peace is not temporary? That the machines are trustworthy and that they'll keep their end of the deal? They never gave the audience any reason to trust the machines. What comes across is Neo making a deal with the enemy...instead of destroying them. Since there's no precedent of the machines wanting peace and wanting to coexist, it looks like Neo is taking a chance with an untrustworthy villain. If the information from the animatrix was in the film, then suddenly, we know that the machines are open to negotiate because there's a precedent, we know that Neo's sacrifice will be worth it, but more importantly, we understand why Neo no longer should destroy the machines, because they weren't that bad to begin with. None of that comes across in the film.
The machines are logical beings, peace means peace, the cycle was broken, the destruction of Zion will not be repeated, if you understand how computers work this is clear to you.

I have been humoring you in the concept that the machines are evil, machines are not evil, they're just machines, surviving, if the machines promise peace, they machines will have peace, period, they are not untrustworthy and the machines in the Matrix are very different from Skynet.

And no, the machines are not "open" to negotiate, man you're really not getting any of this :lol


No, it affects how people view the film, which was one of my points.
No, even without that information the expectations were still misplaced.


The story functions perfectly fine as poor humans fighting evil machines. The idea of reasonable machines wanting to coexist and humans being the ones having to adapt and accept the status quo, instead of defeating the machines for there to be true change, is totally lost and nonexistent, unless you watch the Animatrix. What literally happens or what comes across to most people, is Neo saved Zion by stopping the war temporarily, but the status quo doesn't change.
smh tbh fam :lol

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-07-2016, 12:35 PM
And most people just so happened to not get the movies.

They do, when they're well written.



None of it affects the fact that Neo saved Zion and that there was total change in the cycle and that humans have now a chance, the fact that the machines are evil or not is irrelevant to this.

That's your interpretation of it, but then again...you saw the Animatrix.



The machines are logical beings, peace means peace, the cycle was broken, the destruction of Zion will not be repeated, if you understand how computers work this is clear to you.

I have been humoring you in the concept that the machines are evil, machines are not evil, they're just machines, surviving, if the machines promise peace, they machines will have peace, period, they are not untrustworthy and the machines in the Matrix are very different from Skynet.


And no, the machines are not "open" to negotiate, man you're really not getting any of this :lol

Hey, I blame the Wachowski's awful writing for "not getting it."I understand what the film shows, and the machines wanted to destroy Zion, which is a pretty extreme solution to their problem if all they want is to survive and coexist with the humans. They might be logical, but they still showed emotion and anger when Neo offer them help, and you can't trust an emotional being.




No, even without that information the expectations were still misplaced.

Because people only know what they are given. :dunno If you only get one side of the story, then it becomes about that. Like you said,


Of course Morpheus is gonna tell the human side of the story with the knowledge that he has, which is not complete, he's human

We view the films from an incomplete human point of view, in which the machines are bad, not just surviving. And that affects people's understanding of the story. The machines might not be Skynet, but that's how it comes across, because in all the babbling that goes on in that film, they never made that point clear.

Meem
02-07-2016, 12:55 PM
They do, when they're well written.
Clearly not.



That's your interpretation of it, but then again...you saw the Animatrix.
No, even without seeing it, I'm not taking into account anything showed in the Animatrix.



Hey, I blame the Wachowski's awful writing for "not getting it."I understand what the film shows, and the machines wanted to destroy Zion, which is a pretty extreme solution to their problem if all they want is to survive and coexist with the humans. They might be logical, but they still showed emotion and anger when Neo offer them help, and you can't trust an emotional being.
There's nothing awful about it.

And it's not an extreme solution, they're machines, there's nothing extreme about it, this really just shows how you just don't understand what machines are, and again, they don't want to coexist, they wantED, also, you should understand that AI is well capable of PRETENDING emotions.



Because people only know what they are given. :dunno If you only get one side of the story, then it becomes about that.
And they were given everything they needed.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-07-2016, 01:00 PM
Clearly not.


No, even without seeing it, I'm not taking into account anything showed in the Animatrix.


There's nothing awful about it.




And they were given everything they needed.

Gaspar...is that you? Are you PRETENDING to be someone else? :lol



And it's not an extreme solution, they're machines, there's nothing extreme about it, this really just shows how you just don't understand what machines are, and again, they don't want to coexist, they wantED, also, you should understand that AI is well capable of PRETENDING emotions.

Given the context of the scene and the incomplete human point of view of the story, there's no indication or reason for us to believe that the machines were pretending emotions....even if they could do such a thing. There are no signs ever of the machines faking emotions. I'm sure the machines are capable of many things, but only what we are shown in the film matters.

Meem
02-07-2016, 01:14 PM
Gaspar...is that you? Are you PRETENDING to be someone else? :lol
:lol it's not me, shhhhhh!

It's not like I'm the machines or anything....



Given the context of the scene and the incomplete human point of view of the story, there's no indication or reason for us to believe that the machines were pretending emotions....even if they could do such a thing. There are no signs ever of the machines faking emotions. I'm sure the machines are capable of many things, but only what we are shown in the film matters.
Dude, the machines pretending emotions is just sci-fi/AI 101, if they have to explain that to you then you (the audience) are flawed, not the movie.

One of the usual topics in sci-fi movies is that no one knows if said emotions are real or not, but logic indicates they are faked because machines aren't capable of real emotions.

In this case, rage could be interpreted as just a way to hide the fact that the machines do indeed need Neo as well as to intimidate him.

This is something you see in every single sci-fi work that deals with AI.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-07-2016, 01:38 PM
Dude, the machines pretending emotions is just sci-fi/AI 101, if they have to explain that to you then you (the audience) are flawed, not the movie.

One of the usual topics in sci-fi movies is that no one knows if said emotions are real or not, but logic indicates they are faked because machines aren't capable of real emotions.

In this case, rage could be interpreted as just a way to hide the fact that the machines do indeed need Neo as well as to intimidate him.

This is something you see in every single sci-fi work that deals with AI.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxRX6LXDpWs

Now you are bringing up other films into the equation to justify your previous point. Not all machines fake emotions in other films, not in Blade runner or I Robot, and even that Tomorrow Land film. Those machines developed emotions and feelings. I'm sure there are more examples.

Meem
02-07-2016, 01:42 PM
:lol
I'm not bringing up anything uncalled for, it's a classic and well known trope of the sci-fi genre. Yes, in both Blade Runner and I, Robot it's also a thing. There's always a sort of "it's a machine, machines don't have feelings" and there's never a definite answer to whether they're real emotions.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-07-2016, 01:44 PM
and there's never a definite answer to whether they're real emotions.

Thus, making it possible for a machine to develop emotions, if the audience wishes to believe it :yess:

Meem
02-07-2016, 01:47 PM
Thus, making it possible for a machine to develop emotions, if the audience wishes to believe it :yess:
That doesn't make them real, they're still pretend emotions.

Dude you need more sci-fi in your life. :lol

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-07-2016, 01:51 PM
That doesn't make them real, they're still pretend emotions.

Dude you need more sci-fi in your life. :lol

Nope, there's no definitive answer as you pointed out. No definitive answer means, they may or may not be real. :bunnydanc God...we do sound like nerds :lol

Meem
02-07-2016, 01:54 PM
Nope, there's no definitive answer as you pointed out. No definitive answer means, they may or may not be real. :bunnydanc God...we do sound like nerds :lol
:lol this is the place to do that :hi5:

pturtle
02-07-2016, 02:14 PM
Those heels tho :lol That's a Reloaded Neo.

What I mean is, by the end of the first film, Neo is Superman and he tells the Matrix that he's going to wake people up and change everything because he's the "one," but then in part 2, the new agents are stronger, Smith is back for no reason...even he couldn't explain it, and we find out that Neo is not the first "one," just the latest "one" :lol And eventually, the trilogy is about Neo fighting Smith...which is not what we're led to believe at the end of the first Matrix. So instead of being about Neo vs the Matrix and defeating it, it becomes about Neo vs Smith again, making a deal with the Matrix to save it, and things pretty much stay the same. I still like the films for what they are, but my expectations were higher....and that's my fault.

Damn I caught this late, but most of this is just inspired by 1984, basically we're lied to in the first movie, and we find out the One was nothing more than another system of control. Usually when things are inspired by 1984 people are usually left disappointed because it means what ever comes next is playing on our expectations :lol

I still think the trilogy is one of, if not the best out there though.


Also, we the audience never need to know about Machines wanting to coexist in the past because Neo sacrificing himself to save everything was more than enough reason for them to want to work together.

Everything in the plot isn't thoroughly explained because the Wachowski's were basically using Neo as a vessel for the audience, we learn everything from his perspective. When he's lied to we're lied to, when he's given the truth we're given the truth. The movie does a good job at making the audience sort of participate to try and piece everything together, but by the end we know the truth.

I'll never understand why people didn't like Reloaded, but I do get why they hated Revolutions, it's very unconventional. Outside of a few cheesy scenes I think it was a perfect ending to the trilogy.

The first movie almost hinted at it being impossible to have a happy ending, people like Cipher might not want to be freed, so in Neo's sacrifice, literally everyone wins, and everyone is given a choice.

Meem
02-07-2016, 02:35 PM
Damn I caught this late, but most of this is just inspired by 1984, basically we're lied to in the first movie, and we find out the One was nothing more than another system of control. Usually when things are inspired by 1984 people are usually left disappointed because it means what ever comes next is playing on our expectations :lol

I still think the trilogy is one of, if not the best out there though.


Also, we the audience never need to know about Machines wanting to coexist in the past because Neo sacrificing himself to save everything was more than enough reason for them to want to work together.

Everything in the plot isn't thoroughly explained because the Wachowski's were basically using Neo as a vessel for the audience, we learn everything from his perspective. When he's lied to we're lied to, when he's given the truth we're given the truth. The movie does a good job at making the audience sort of participate to try and piece everything together, but by the end we know the truth.

I'll never understand why people didn't like Reloaded, but I do get why they hated Revolutions, it's very unconventional. Outside of a few cheesy scenes I think it was a perfect ending to the trilogy.

The first movie almost hinted at it being impossible to have a happy ending, people like Cipher might not want to be freed, so in Neo's sacrifice, literally everyone wins, and everyone is given a choice.
:clap :goodpost:

You read 1984 because of MGSV didn't you? :lol I haven't read it in ages.

pturtle
02-07-2016, 02:37 PM
Absolutely :lol

After reading it I was shocked at how similar it was to The Matrix Trilogy. It definitely helped me understand MGSV more, but I won't lie, there's still quite a few things I'm a little lost at regarding some events and characters.


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The Clown Prince of Crime
02-07-2016, 02:52 PM
Damn I caught this late, but most of this is just inspired by 1984, basically we're lied to in the first movie, and we find it the One was nothing more than another system of control. Usually when things are inspired by 1984 people are left disappointed because it means what ever comes next is playing on our expectations :lol

I still think the trilogy is one of, if not the best out there though.


Also, we the audience never need to know about Machines wanting to coexist in the past because Neo sacrificing himself to save everything was more than enough reason for them to want to work together.

Everything in the plot isn't throughly explained because the Wachowski's were basically using Neo as a vessel for the audience, we learn everything from his perspective. When he's lied to, we're lied to, when he's given the truth, we're given the truth. The movie does a good job at making the audience sort of participate to try and piece everything together, but by the end we know the truth.

I'll never understand why people didn't like Reloaded, but I do get why they hated Revolutions, it's very unconventional. Outside of a few cheesy scenes I think it was a perfect ending to the trilogy.

The first movie almost hinted at it being impossible to have a happy ending, people like Cipher might not want to be freed, so in Neo's sacrifice, literally everyone wins, and everyone is given a choice.

Oh...now you want some too? :lol

First Gaspar was throwing everything at me, even other movies and the history of sci fi,

but I was totally like

http://i.imgur.com/pAJ9AXF.gif

But then he came back as a "new man...sort of speak." He can't explain it.

And I was like

http://i.imgur.com/MbAIi7g.gif


Now you show up all like

http://i.imgur.com/Andt5TS.gif



but I'm really tired so all my brain sees is

http://i.imgur.com/OEE7Vgc.gif

:monkey3

But that's my incomplete side of the story from my human point of view :lol

a-dev
02-07-2016, 02:54 PM
Gaspar...is that you? Are you PRETENDING to be someone else? :lol

:lol He's an Agent.

Meem
02-07-2016, 02:54 PM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4188815/agent-smith-oracling-o.gif

@Prince At least you don't see us as...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiypniFu_sI

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-07-2016, 02:57 PM
:lol:lol:lol

pturtle
02-07-2016, 02:59 PM
Oh...now you want some too? :lol

First Gaspar was throwing everything at me, even other movies and the history of sci fi,

but I was totally like

http://i.imgur.com/pAJ9AXF.gif

But then he came back as a "new man...sort of speak." He can't explain it.

And I was like

http://i.imgur.com/MbAIi7g.gif


Now you show up all like

http://i.imgur.com/Andt5TS.gif



but I'm really tired so all my brain sees is

http://i.imgur.com/OEE7Vgc.gif

:monkey3

But that's my incomplete side of the story from my human point of view :lol

:lol :lol :lol

No way, you and Gaspar are the kings of debating on SSF. I always prefer to stay on your side rather than debate against you guys :lol


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a-dev
02-07-2016, 03:05 PM
Gaspar and Clownprince have determined that I shall rewatch the Matrix films as soon as I can find a gap in my porn addiction.

Lejuan
02-07-2016, 03:05 PM
Matrix was a really solid stand-alone film. In its day it was stylistically and technologically innovative.

The other two (whatever they're called) are poo-poo and ka-ka.

I rest my case.

pturtle
02-07-2016, 03:09 PM
Gaspar and Clownprince have determined that I shall rewatch the Matrix films as soon as I can find a gap in my porn addiction.

:lol :lol :lol


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The Clown Prince of Crime
02-07-2016, 03:15 PM
Gaspar and Clownprince have determined that I shall rewatch the Matrix films as soon as I can find a gap in my porn addiction.

Hey, the trilogy has a young Monica Bellucci, a sex scene with Trinity, and a cute woman getting a very graphic orgasm while eating cake, and a shirtless Morpheus...wait...never mind, so that should satisfy your addiction briefly :lol :wink1:

Solidus
02-07-2016, 04:08 PM
Gaspar and Clownprince have determined that I shall rewatch the Matrix films as soon as I can find a gap in my porn addiction.

The first movie is the only one that's truly worth watching. And the Animatrix as well :lecture.


Matrix was a really solid stand-alone film. In its day it was stylistically and technologically innovative.

The other two (whatever they're called) are poo-poo and ka-ka.

I rest my case.

:lecture :lecture :lecture

RIDDICK
02-07-2016, 04:13 PM
Matrix was a really solid stand-alone film. In its day it was stylistically and technologically innovative.
The other two (whatever they're called) are poo-poo and ka-ka.

http://49.media.tumblr.com/8005740b9ba5d853404759af46a9abb2/tumblr_ms7lk7kgek1s8l4eao1_500.gif

BuddyGus
02-07-2016, 04:14 PM
The Abyss

Casting 2
Story 2
Score 2
Cinematograph 2
Fun Factor 2

Total10

Been one of my favorite movies since I was a kid.

crows
02-07-2016, 04:24 PM
Matrix reloaded is one of my favorite action movies of all time. it has some of the coolest looking fight scenes

matrix reloaded has probably one of the greatest if not the greatest soundtracks ever made

then the third one came and took a giant crap all over it

a-dev
02-07-2016, 04:39 PM
Matrix reloaded is one of my favorite action movies of all time. it has some of the coolest looking fight scenes

matrix reloaded has probably one of the greatest if not the greatest soundtracks ever made

then the third one came and took a giant crap all over it

I don't see that it did. I thought the APU VS Sentinel battles were a fine equivalent for the highway chase of Reloaded.

RIDDICK
02-07-2016, 04:57 PM
I thought the APU VS Sentinel battles were a fine equivalent for the highway chase of Reloaded.
Exactly. They were as stupid and pointless but still enjoyable to watch.
Wachowski released their inner Bay to make these two films.

KitFisto
02-07-2016, 05:11 PM
Matrix reloaded is one of my favorite action movies of all time. it has some of the coolest looking fight scenes

matrix reloaded has probably one of the greatest if not the greatest soundtracks ever made

then the third one came and took a giant crap all over it

This .

crows
02-07-2016, 05:19 PM
I don't see that it did. I thought the APU VS Sentinel battles were a fine equivalent for the highway chase of Reloaded.

maybe only that one was kind of cool. but even the other sentinels scenes got boring. At least reloaded changed it up.

you got the 3 agents at the beginning, you got the park fight with Smith, the highway scene, the chateau fight, the twins fight

You got to see all 3 fight different bad guys in different places

Revolutions was the exact same battle with the same people and the same sentinels attacking the same way for like one hour... I remember being in the theater and just feeling so bored and sad and angry.. I kept thinking "when is this stupid fight going to change? when are they going into the matrix? when is something cool gonna happen???????"

I even preferred the Subway Neo scene because we got a lot of information about the machines and love. and I even liked the Smith in the real world fight because it felt more intense.

But the sentinel attack was so boring... I dont know what the directors were thinking... (Like I said, i could even appreciate the Neo subway talk to the guy a lot more")

EarlHickey98
02-07-2016, 06:23 PM
The Shawshank Redemption: 9/10

VintijDroidGutzz
02-07-2016, 08:27 PM
Matrix was a really solid stand-alone film. In its day it was stylistically and technologically innovative.

The other two (whatever they're called) are poo-poo and ka-ka.

I rest my case.
Yep.

Someone mentioned Monica Bellucci though, & I should've noted that she bumped the second one up a notch or two just by being involved. :lol

crows
02-07-2016, 08:56 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WoAUckrPRuY/maxresdefault.jpg

Ondi
02-07-2016, 08:59 PM
Yes, Crows has a very good point. The evidence is certainly conclusive.

pturtle
02-07-2016, 10:49 PM
maybe only that one was kind of cool. but even the other sentinels scenes got boring. At least reloaded changed it up.

you got the 3 agents at the beginning, you got the park fight with Smith, the highway scene, the chateau fight, the twins fight

You got to see all 3 fight different bad guys in different places

Revolutions was the exact same battle with the same people and the same sentinels attacking the same way for like one hour... I remember being in the theater and just feeling so bored and sad and angry.. I kept thinking "when is this stupid fight going to change? when are they going into the matrix? when is something cool gonna happen???????"

I even preferred the Subway Neo scene because we got a lot of information about the machines and love. and I even liked the Smith in the real world fight because it felt more intense.

But the sentinel attack was so boring... I dont know what the directors were thinking... (Like I said, i could even appreciate the Neo subway talk to the guy a lot more")

I remember that being the stand out of the movie back then, everyone was saying that was actually the only reason to see the movie :lol.

This thread just goes to show opinions man, some thing think the trilogy is genius, others think it's fine, and others think they're crap. I'm just happy we're talking Matrix in here :lol


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Lejuan
02-08-2016, 02:38 AM
Yes, Persephone was spectacular.

Patriot666
02-08-2016, 08:12 AM
Man of Steel 3d - 7.5/10

RIDDICK
02-08-2016, 08:21 AM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WoAUckrPRuY/maxresdefault.jpgWhen I think of Bellucci I only remember Kaileena. :lol

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/princeofpersia/images/b/bf/Kaileena.png/revision/latest?cb=20140718095833&path-prefix=en


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB2dfFiwiLE

pturtle
02-08-2016, 09:15 AM
She's probably the best looking Caucasian woman to ever walk this earth. I would put a prime Angelina Jolie right behind her.


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RIDDICK
02-08-2016, 09:18 AM
prime Angelina Jolie right
Nope. Maybe Gemma Arterton but definitely not Jolie.

EarlHickey98
02-08-2016, 09:25 AM
Good Will Hunting: 8.5/10

darthkostis
02-08-2016, 09:46 AM
Child 44: 7/10

Ex Machina: 8/10

FSLAR
02-08-2016, 10:09 AM
When I think of Bellucci I only remember Kaileena. :lol

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/princeofpersia/images/b/bf/Kaileena.png/revision/latest?cb=20140718095833&path-prefix=en


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB2dfFiwiLE I have to confess, this is the only thing that comes to mind too :lol
Good Will Hunting: 8.5/10not my last movie watched, but the score I would give it :hi5:

K07
02-08-2016, 10:59 AM
Why did Gaspar get banned?

That discussion about the Matrix kind of makes me want to revisit it but at the same time makes me happy that I haven't watched that series in a loooooooong time. I loved the first one. It was one of the first (if not the first) DVDs I owned. I must have watched it three dozen times before seeing Reloaded. I loved Reloaded. I probably saw it a dozen times before seeing Revolutions. I didn't like Revolutions. I watched it a second time and hated it and have never since revisited the sequels. I tried watching the original but my viewing had been tainted. I think I've given it enough time. I think I'll revisit the first one.

highlander1
02-08-2016, 03:06 PM
GREENBERG Movie. Ben Stiller as a crazy messed up a-hole friend and brother hated Ben in this one he was a complete doush and woulnt recomend at all.

pturtle
02-08-2016, 04:42 PM
Nope. Maybe Gemma Arterton but definitely not Jolie.

Eh, her face is a little too masculine for me, but if that's what you're into Riddick :lol

Prime, Tomb Raider Angelina looks far better and has a more unique look in my opinion.


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pturtle
02-08-2016, 04:43 PM
Why did Gaspar get banned?

That discussion about the Matrix kind of makes me want to revisit it but at the same time makes me happy that I haven't watched that series in a loooooooong time. I loved the first one. It was one of the first (if not the first) DVDs I owned. I must have watched it three dozen times before seeing Reloaded. I loved Reloaded. I probably saw it a dozen times before seeing Revolutions. I didn't like Revolutions. I watched it a second time and hated it and have never since revisited the sequels. I tried watching the original but my viewing had been tainted. I think I've given it enough time. I think I'll revisit the first one.

He was banned?


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YankeesFanboy
02-08-2016, 05:09 PM
Foxcatcher - 89/100. It's difficult to watch, grueling even, but in a good way. Simply haunting.

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-08-2016, 05:14 PM
Why did Gaspar get banned?


He hurt a puppy's feelings :lol


He was banned?



Yes :lol

pturtle
02-08-2016, 05:16 PM
Damn, is it a permanent ban? He's usually respectful even in arguments, what did he do?


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The Clown Prince of Crime
02-08-2016, 05:21 PM
Damn, is it a permanent ban? He's usually respectful even in arguments, what did he do?


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It's temporary.

pturtle
02-08-2016, 05:25 PM
Thank the heavens, I was about to make a Change.org :lol


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Solidus
02-08-2016, 05:31 PM
Just have to say, tough break for Gaspar. He's a friend, I know he can be playfully annoying sometimes (as with all of us), but damn... this isn't right. I can think of a few, who're significantly more worthy of a ban.

RIDDICK
02-08-2016, 05:34 PM
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys

Amazon Women --------- 9/10
Lost Kingdom ----------- 8/10
Circle of Fire ---------- 10/10
Underworld ----------- 10/10
Maze of the Minotaur - 6/10

Season 1 ----------- 9/10

Solidus
02-08-2016, 05:38 PM
The Outlaw Josey Wales - 9/10

Revenge is a dish best served cold, and this movie certainly dishes it out. Clint Eastwood at his best.


Hercules: The Legendary Journeys

Amazon Women --------- 9/10
Lost Kingdom ----------- 8/10
Circle of Fire ---------- 10/10
Underworld ----------- 10/10
Maze of the Minotaur - 6/10

Season 1 ----------- 9/10

I need to rewatch it, along with Xena :lol.

FSLAR
02-08-2016, 05:57 PM
Just have to say, tough break for Gaspar. He's a friend, I know he can be playfully annoying sometimes (as with all of us), but damn... this isn't right. I can think of a few, who're significantly more worthy of a ban.This 1000x. By FAR.

Temporary ban for the false account, or something else in here? I've noticed he's been arguing recently in here.

RIDDICK
02-08-2016, 06:05 PM
I need to rewatch it, along with Xena. lol
DO IT!
I really don't like later halfs of each show but early stuff is sooo lovely!
It's just so well-balanced and entertainin'.
Man, I feel old...

https://media.giphy.com/media/uHxpBdHMBcO8o/giphy.gif

SnakeDoctor
02-08-2016, 06:12 PM
American Sniper 9/10. Pretty badass. Probably not the best war movie I've ever seen ... but on the short list. Homefront interaction between he and his wife reminded me of my wife and I.

SnakeDoc

Plastic Bateman
02-08-2016, 06:23 PM
Filth - 8.5/10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMXGJ5g_zRM

Amazing - bleak, grimy, tar-black comedy not for the easily-offended, or people who don't understand Scotland. Probably the most realistic portrayal of the British police force ever committed to film :lol

K07
02-08-2016, 06:49 PM
DO IT!
I really don't like later halfs of each show but early stuff is sooo lovely!
It's just so well-balanced and entertainin'.
Man, I feel old...

https://media.giphy.com/media/uHxpBdHMBcO8o/giphy.gif

Just rewatched season 1 last year around this time. Love it and Xena and fully agree about later seasons of both not being great.

VintijDroidGutzz
02-08-2016, 10:09 PM
She's probably the best looking Caucasian woman to ever walk this earth.
Can't argue with that. :lol


I would put a prime Angelina Jolie right behind her.
Oh HELL no, come on! :lol

pturtle
02-08-2016, 10:19 PM
Can't argue with that. :lol


Oh HELL no, come on! :lol

244421

244422

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRDvgXNwi-xCd1sr5hJ107oOtBycGscs0IjaClB1R-zqg5rr7S4_g

I know we all have different taste here, but how is this not a universally shared opinion?

(Prime) Angelina and (prime) Monica Bellucci are part of a rare breed of women that have that statuesque beauty while also being sexy. Usually its one or the other.

VintijDroidGutzz
02-08-2016, 10:32 PM
I know we all have different taste here, but how is this not a universally shared opinion?

(Prime) Angelina and (prime) Monica Bellucci are part of a rare breed of women that have that statuesque beauty while also being sexy. Usually its one or the other.
Ehh.. well to be fair, I only recently watched the second Tomb Raider movie the other night, & I liked it. I watched the bonus material after that, & checked out the KoRn video (which she appears in) & man.. I've never seen her look better there.. but they glossed her up way too much & it looked obvious.

Anyway, she was dare I say almost perfect casting, but I would've gone with Rhona Mitra personally - much better looking, & was pretty much Lara incarnate at the time - & a popular actress too might I add. Of course, they wanted a big name behind the movie.

Jolie looks too much like her brother, I never really found her appealing.

pturtle
02-08-2016, 10:47 PM
Ehh.. well to be fair, I only recently watched the second Tomb Raider movie the other night, & I liked it. I watched the bonus material after that, & checked out the KoRn video (which she appears in) & man.. I've never seen her look better there.. but they glossed her up way too much & it looked obvious.

Anyway, she was dare I say almost perfect casting, but I would've gone with Rhona Mitra personally - much better looking, & was pretty much Lara incarnate at the time - & a popular actress too might I add. Of course, they wanted a big name behind the movie.

Jolie looks too much like her brother, I never really found her appealing.

Rhona Mitra in her prime was a beautiful woman, but again to me, her face is a bit too masculine. I still think Jolie was the better casting but Mitra could have worked as well

You’re definitely right about Angelina’s brother putting a dent in her image though, they do look very similar but most of the time I forget he exists and all I see is Angelina again :lol

VintijDroidGutzz
02-08-2016, 10:51 PM
Fair enough. :lol

Monica is in a class all her own though - even now, & Jolie doesn't compare at all, as far as I'm concerned.

pturtle
02-08-2016, 10:57 PM
Fair enough. :lol

Monica is in a class all her own though - even now, & Jolie doesn't compare at all, as far as I'm concerned.

Fair enough, at least we agree on Monica :lol

The Clown Prince of Crime
02-08-2016, 11:00 PM
Fair enough. :lol

Monica is in a class all her own though - even now, & Jolie doesn't compare at all, as far as I'm concerned.


Fair enough, at least we agree on Monica :lol

I'll take Carter over Monica :monkey3

http://i.imgur.com/r4IlxEK.jpg

Iggyrox
02-08-2016, 11:01 PM
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies 8/10. Darcy and Lily James dollies would be great. With guns and swords, of course.

crows
02-08-2016, 11:01 PM
Why did Gaspar get banned?

That discussion about the Matrix kind of makes me want to revisit it but at the same time makes me happy that I haven't watched that series in a loooooooong time. I loved the first one. It was one of the first (if not the first) DVDs I owned. I must have watched it three dozen times before seeing Reloaded. I loved Reloaded. I probably saw it a dozen times before seeing Revolutions. I didn't like Revolutions. I watched it a second time and hated it and have never since revisited the sequels. I tried watching the original but my viewing had been tainted. I think I've given it enough time. I think I'll revisit the first one.

i used to never buy movies when i was young but i got the matrix vhs tape the day it came out lol (and bought the soundtract right away too )

VintijDroidGutzz
02-08-2016, 11:01 PM
Fair enough, at least we agree on Monica :lol
Jolie played the role expertly, no question. She's one of those few Americans that exist, who can actually do a foreign accent & not butcher it - in fact, her British accent is flawless.

VintijDroidGutzz
02-08-2016, 11:03 PM
I'll take Carter over Monica :monkey3
Oh dude, you're killing me!!! :gah: :lol

Lynda is so fine.. :love

Still Monica though. :lecture

pturtle
02-08-2016, 11:27 PM
I'll take Carter over Monica :monkey3

http://i.imgur.com/r4IlxEK.jpg

She’s certainly on my list, but like Vintij said, Monica still :lol

Lejuan
02-09-2016, 12:10 AM
I enjoy watching Jolie on screen, and she's undoubtedly pretty, but I don't get any sense of frisson from her or her performances.

EVILFACE
02-09-2016, 12:13 AM
Jolie is pretty, but I don't care for any of her performances. They all come off as smug.

VintijDroidGutzz
02-09-2016, 12:26 AM
I should've also mentioned, that I recently caught the 2007 'Beowulf' movie for the first time the other night.

I thnk CG Jolie trumps the real one. :lol

YankeesFanboy
02-09-2016, 12:38 AM
I liked her in Mr. & Mrs. Smith and Wanted. That's it.

Taibhse
02-09-2016, 01:01 AM
I liked her in Mr. & Mrs. Smith and Wanted. That's it.


Salt?

YankeesFanboy
02-09-2016, 01:04 AM
Salt?

I've never seen it. But after Googling it, it sounds fairly typical of her oeuvre. :lol

darthkostis
02-09-2016, 01:07 AM
Filth - 8.5/10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMXGJ5g_zRM

Amazing - bleak, grimy, tar-black comedy not for the easily-offended, or people who don't understand Scotland. Probably the most realistic portrayal of the British police force ever committed to film :lol

Oh, I saw that, what, 2 years ago and I loved it. Like you said, it was raw and vulgar, but hot damn, was it engrossing. Mcavoy was brilliant I though.

In the Loop: 9/10

I haven't laughed at a movie in a long time but good God, was this funny. My favourite was probably the "anti-war shack".

Road Blaster
02-09-2016, 03:23 AM
Pound of Flesh - 3/10

Sweet Rabbit
02-09-2016, 03:28 AM
Contracted Phase II - 6.5/10

slipknotpredator
02-09-2016, 04:27 AM
Spectre...

What a let down.

6/10

Snake Plissken
02-09-2016, 04:42 AM
Oldboy 2003 - 10/10

EVILFACE
02-09-2016, 05:37 AM
Contracted Phase II - 6.5/10

The orchestrator of all Jame Bonds pain has his helicopter taken out by small caliber snub nose pistol at super long range. Umm ok.

All the Craig Bonds got worse after CR.

YoNoSe
02-09-2016, 07:07 AM
Contracted really is a terrible Bond movie.

Mad Old Lu
02-09-2016, 08:09 AM
Exodus: Gods and Kings: 6.5/10

Not bad. The story was well told and the acting was good. But nothing extraordinary, either.

RIDDICK
02-09-2016, 09:20 AM
Oldboy 2003 - 10/10

:lecture :lecture :lecture :lecture :lecture :lecture :lecture :lecture :lecture :lecture

a-dev
02-09-2016, 09:50 AM
Spectre...

What a let down.

6/10

Agreed. Watched it at christmas, could hardly wait for it to end. Broke my heart when the film continued beyond the stuff at Blofeld's lair.

YankeesFanboy
02-09-2016, 06:12 PM
Killing Season - 34/100. Too much of it is laugh-out-loud atrocious. DeNiro and Travolta have no shame.

Loki
02-09-2016, 06:23 PM
Kung Fu Panda 2 - 6/10. The animation was superb as usual, but the story was drab, glacially slow in parts, and a massive letdown in comparison to the last two films.

Patriot666
02-09-2016, 07:31 PM
The Avengers - 8.5/10


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RIDDICK
02-09-2016, 08:16 PM
Ant-Man - 4/10

The story just doesn't work, at all.
The film is semi-watchable but not good by any stretch.

pturtle
02-09-2016, 08:35 PM
I'm still confused how Age of Ultron and Antman got really good reviews.


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YoNoSe
02-09-2016, 08:37 PM
I'm still confused how Age of Ultron and Antman got really good reviews.


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Age of Ultron is very entertaining and way better than the Nerd Rage consensus.

And Ant Man is okay. :lol

Loki
02-09-2016, 08:50 PM
I'm still confused how Age of Ultron and Antman got really good reviews.


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Agree on this (sadly). I found Antman was trying too hard to be witty, and Age of Ultron blatantly rehashed the formula of the first film and mucked up half the characters.

pturtle
02-09-2016, 10:45 PM
Age of Ultron is very entertaining and way better than the Nerd Rage consensus.

And Ant Man is okay. :lol

I wasn't expecting much from AOU since I'm not a fan of Whedon's filmmaking and writing, but Antman I thought was going to turn out much better than it did.


Agree on this (sadly). I found Antman was trying too hard to be witty, and Age of Ultron blatantly rehashed the formula of the first film and mucked up half the characters.

Yea, AOU really did make a lot of the main characters unlikeable. The time on the farm, Thor's vision bath, Hulk and Widow romance, the ridiculously comedic Ultron etc... I just don't know what redeeming qualities the movie had.


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KBA
02-09-2016, 11:45 PM
Thor's vision bath LOL.

Yeah, I remember too many cringe moments watching it in the theatre. Hopefully a sophomore slump for the avengers movies, though after AoU, and to some extent Ant-Man -- couldn't get past the ants, I'm only half hopeful for their two-parter finale.

Uncanny Web-Slinger
02-10-2016, 12:02 AM
Masters of the Universe - 4/10

I can enjoy it for what it is but even though I'm not familiar with He Man lore even I can tell it cops out like the first Thor movie by taking things to Earth for budget and relatability reasons. That being said I like Skeletor and Lundgren did okay.


I'm still confused how Age of Ultron and Antman got really good reviews.

Goodwill most likely.

I'm confident if I looked at the reviews of Ant-Man that 90% of them would mention the shared universe and studio it's made by, thus the reviewers being swayed by their outlook on all, rather than solely judging the movie by itself on its own merits.

VintijDroidGutzz
02-10-2016, 03:37 AM
Ant-Man - 4/10

The story just doesn't work, at all.
The film is semi-watchable but not good by any stretch.
I loved Ant Man.

Go figure.

Plastic Bateman
02-10-2016, 04:52 AM
I wasn't expecting much from AOU since I'm not a fan of Whedon's filmmaking and writing, but Antman I thought was going to turn out much better than it did.



Yea, AOU really did make a lot of the main characters unlikeable. The time on the farm, Thor's vision bath, Hulk and Widow romance, the ridiculously comedic Ultron etc... I just don't know what redeeming qualities the movie had.


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This is the only decent scene in the entire movie:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grldu9JT4Zc

EVILFACE
02-10-2016, 05:15 AM
That and the hammer test. Rest is average filler.

a-dev
02-10-2016, 08:40 AM
That and the hammer test. Rest is average filler.

I liked the hammer gags in general but the Cap ''language'' thing didn't do anything for me. And Joke-Tron just killed off any sense of threat from him.

Khev
02-10-2016, 10:07 AM
Nah, best part of the movie is still Don Cheadle's hollow joy at retelling his tank story to the groupies. I literally laugh out loud at his reaction every time. Hammer joke is also good, as is the final exchange between Ultron and Vision.

I agree, Cap's language joke got old pretty fast.

Mad Old Lu
02-10-2016, 10:19 AM
I loved Ant Man.

Go figure.

Loved Ant Man too. :dunno I thought it was an interesting and unique take on a superhero movie, being essentially a "heist" movie. And loved Luis's storytelling, and making waffles for everyone. I also liked that Ant Man, and essentially other superheroes besides Cap, have been around for a while but in secret. It opened up a nice history to the Universe.

RIDDICK
02-10-2016, 10:20 AM
the Cap ''language'' thing didn't do anything for me.

I agree, Cap's language joke got old pretty fast.
Never said something ridiculous in a company of friends who then used it to taunt you?
Come on, it's a nice gag.

a-dev
02-10-2016, 10:27 AM
Nah, best part of the movie is still Don Cheadle's hollow joy at retelling his tank story to the groupies. I literally laugh out loud at his reaction every time. Hammer joke is also good, as is the final exchange between Ultron and Vision.

I agree, Cap's language joke got old pretty fast.

Yeah the War Machine story was good, there should be a GIF of his self-satisfied reaction if there isn't already.

Khev
02-10-2016, 10:27 AM
Loved Ant Man too. :dunno I thought it was an interesting and unique take on a superhero movie, being essentially a "heist" movie. And loved Luis's storytelling, and making waffles for everyone. I also liked that Ant Man, and essentially other superheroes besides Cap, have been around for a while but in secret. It opened up a nice history to the Universe.

Yep, loved Ant-Man. A very fun little movie that finally got away from the "save the world from bad guy who wants to destroy everything just to rebuild it" theme prevalent in most recent MCU films. Awesome cast too.

Khev
02-10-2016, 10:31 AM
Never said something ridiculous in a company of friends who then used it to taunt you?
Come on, it's a nice gag.

It was funny the first time, just not so much on follow-up viewings. I'm not saying it was horrible it just didn't stand up the way the Hammer test/War Machine story did.

RIDDICK
02-10-2016, 10:36 AM
Well, it's the opposite for me. :lol
I don't care for Cheadle one bit, always fast forward all the scenes he's in. Got tired of the Hammer contest before film was even released - it was everywhere during their marketng campaign.

a-dev
02-10-2016, 10:51 AM
Never said something ridiculous in a company of friends who then used it to taunt you?
Come on, it's a nice gag.

It is...too late...for me RIDDICK. :vader

It wasn't a case of not understanding the joke, quite simply

http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt28/a-dev/Funnies/vlcsnap-2014-10-20-21h14m17s39Small_zps1f34d684.png (http://s594.photobucket.com/user/a-dev/media/Funnies/vlcsnap-2014-10-20-21h14m17s39Small_zps1f34d684.png.html)

YoNoSe
02-10-2016, 11:34 AM
I thought it was funny. I still think it's funny. I feel like Chief Brody in that pic.

RIDDICK
02-10-2016, 11:39 AM
I feel like Chief Brody in that pic.
:lol:lol:lol:lol

a-dev
02-10-2016, 11:44 AM
Did Chief Brody laugh in that scene?

YoNoSe
02-10-2016, 11:47 AM
Did Chief Brody laugh in that scene?

I don't think so but he looks uncomfortable and he's cupping his balls for comfort.