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The Mike
05-06-2008, 09:59 PM
The release date was locked in let us discuss the rumors that are now surfacing:


From Cinemablend


Marvel Studios just announced that they were bringing The First Avenger: Captain America into theatres May 6, 2011, and while that day is far off, it hasn't stopped speculation about who would play the star-spangled Avenger. According to Cinema Blend, Matthew McConaughey may be one of the names at the top of the list - perhaps placed there by the fact that the actor's name has often been at the top of fan polls for their pick of who to play the character.

Physically, McConaughey fits the bill for the character perfectly. He's blonde-haired, blue-eyed, square-jawed and buff. What makes this a bit more uncertain is McConaughey's acting history and public persona. The actor is known for being laid-back and, well, "dirty" - hardly the embodiment of the American Dream that Cap is supposed to be.

On the other hand, Captain America has often been criticized for being too clean-cut and patriotic, and being out-of-touch and inaccessible to modern fans. So perhaps McConaughey would be able to breathe excitement into the role for The First Avenger: Captain America.

It should be noted that this is still rumor at this point - McConaughey's name is at the top of the list being considered, but nothing has been signed or confirmed at this point.

In the comics, Captain America is actually Steve Rogers, a patriotic young man during the days of World War II who was rejected by the army for being physically unfit. Officials were so impressed with the young man's enthusiasm that they enlisted him in a top-secret Super Soldier program to transform him into the pinnacle of human fitness. Transformed, Captain America fought in the War and was then put into suspended animation until the modern day. Re-awakened in a strange new world, Cap still fights for truth and justice and the American way as the leader of the Avengers.

hairlesswookiee
05-06-2008, 10:19 PM
awesome!!! i think Neil McDonough should play captain america. he also fits the bill. he's got the build, but isn't Arnold buff. blonde hair, blue eyes... and isn't an A list actor that everyone is gonna critique when watching.

IrishJedi
05-06-2008, 10:39 PM
THE FIRST AVENGER is a horrible, horrible title and better be changed soon. At least they were sure to say it's just the "working title", though. But even then, it's dumb. During WWII, Cap isn't an "avenger"... he's a super soldier. And he's not even the first member to actually join the Avengers after he's found in modern times. Just WTF is up with that title? :monkey4

What's wrong with the just CAPTAIN AMERICA? :huh

Sick Boy 82
05-06-2008, 11:20 PM
I don't mind the title, but thank god they are following the original storyline!!!! I'm so frakkin glad they are doing that. This could be another amazing movie if it gets the same attention to detail as IM!!

hairlesswookiee
05-06-2008, 11:36 PM
relax... i don't think they will keep the first avenger part. i think its just a tag to spark interest with the iron man publicity now.

Shai
05-06-2008, 11:37 PM
I dont think this title will stay, and Matthew McConaughey would have been a good choice........but 10 years ago...He's getting a bit old now...Brad Pitt also would have made a good choice blond ,blue eyes, can be skinny or buff if he wants...but again too old now...No I think they gonna take a new young actor....They will probably think they need to sign up an actor for 3 movies...

hairlesswookiee
05-06-2008, 11:57 PM
^^yup they need someone who can be able to put the suit on for the next 10 years or so.

6Series
05-07-2008, 06:51 AM
Not a fan of Matthew here but I think Vin Diesel will kick ass as Cappy! Can't imagine him with hair tho... LOL

bagelsncheesey
05-07-2008, 07:27 AM
Not a fan of Matthew here but I think Vin Diesel will kick ass as Cappy! Can't imagine him with hair tho... LOL

Vin Diesel as Captain America? Are you crazy?? In no way, shape or form should he be Captain America. That would be a disgrace. Sorry, but that's the way I feel.

Agent0028
05-07-2008, 07:30 AM
I don't like the idea of McConaughey playing Cap. Doesn't he usually do comedies? I prefer Hairless' suggestion of McDonough.

The ill Jedi
05-07-2008, 07:31 AM
Vin Diesel as Captain America? Are you crazy?? In no way, shape or form should he be Captain America. That would be a disgrace. Sorry, but that's the way I feel.
I agree, Cap needs to be a white boy. :D Matthew McConaughey sounds like a good choice to me. PLEASE no Vin Diesel for this!!

The Mike
05-07-2008, 08:11 AM
I don't think any actor is too old as long as he is physically fit. Look at Downey, he's 43 and pulled it off beautifully. It might make more sense to get an actor in his mid to late 30s doing amazing stuff and really sell the Super Solider idea.....

Sick Boy 82
05-07-2008, 08:14 AM
Yeah, no Vin Diesel! Not for this movie! But on that had, I picked up PB and COR last night in HD-DVD and PB looked so frakkin amazing!!

I right now cannot seem to think of a good actor for either Cap or Thor. I think the guy needs to be big in the first place, so maybe the guy who plyed Leonidas or Eric Bana for either role.

IronFingaz
05-07-2008, 08:42 AM
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/neal-mcdonough-2004-nbc-all-star-party-arrivals-1oNGC4.jpg

:flag:flag:flag:flag:flag



:D

Sick Boy 82
05-07-2008, 08:45 AM
He would definitely work! Maybe not in the very beginning of the movie for young Cap, but for the majority of it!!!!!

Greg the Bunny Studios
05-07-2008, 09:22 AM
I'm all for Neil. Excellent choice, IMO.

creature4000
05-07-2008, 09:29 AM
Casting is the most important thing when dealing with these type of films! One false move and Blam.. you get GiJoe!

Sick Boy 82
05-07-2008, 09:31 AM
I think with Marvel in full control of their movies now, hopefully that will not be a problem. I think IM proves that point! Excellent job!

Shai
05-07-2008, 09:35 AM
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/neal-mcdonough-2004-nbc-all-star-party-arrivals-1oNGC4.jpg

:flag:flag:flag:flag:flag



:D

yeah that guy sure would made a great Cap.

JosephCPR
05-07-2008, 09:48 AM
...at least physically

Greg the Bunny Studios
05-07-2008, 10:17 AM
Through a channel that I just happen to have, I've forwarded the interest in Neal McDonough to his family to eventually get it to him.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2171/2474161728_1f731f7094.jpg

Khev
05-07-2008, 11:28 AM
Through a channel that I just happen to have, I've forwarded the interest in Neal McDonough to his family to eventually get it to him.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2171/2474161728_1f731f7094.jpg

IIRC from Minority Report he's about the same height as Tom Cruise. Captain America shouldn't be a shrimp, even if its a buff shrimp. The casting for this film is going to be incredibly tough and absolutely crucial to nail if they want it to work.

Greg the Bunny Studios
05-07-2008, 11:42 AM
http://digg.com/movies/Who_should_be_Captain_America

According the IMDB, Neal is 6' even. Cap is 6'2". I think we can give him 2 inches.

Khev
05-07-2008, 11:46 AM
If imbd.com is correct then I definitely wouldn't have a problem with Neil. He doesn't scream "Steve Rogers" in the way that Christopher Reeve WAS Superman but out of known actors he might be the best. Hopefully an unknown can be discovered who just inhabits the role perfectly.

Crix
05-07-2008, 11:51 AM
Through a channel that I just happen to have, I've forwarded the interest in Neal McDonough to his family to eventually get it to him.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2171/2474161728_1f731f7094.jpg

Wow, is it just me or does this guy actually look like Duke from G.I. Joe? (card art version from the 25th line I mean, not Tatum).

DarthNeil
05-07-2008, 01:54 PM
Maybe a Wayans brother could play Captain America... :monkey3

Seriously though I'm excited if they have WWII as the backdrop of his solo movie with his freezing ending the movie and his eventual re-awakening be part II...or the beginning of the Avengers movie.

Whoever is selected is going to need the acting chops to go mano a mano with RDJ...

Neal McDonough might be a good choice--- for now.

Spartan Rex
05-07-2008, 02:10 PM
Vin Diesel?!
:mwaha

Capt America is supposed to be charismatic and form complete sentences.

DarthNeil
05-07-2008, 02:17 PM
Vin Diesel?!
:mwaha

Capt America is supposed to be charismatic and form complete sentences.

Hey now, he was great as the voice of Brad Bird's The Iron Giant.:D

http://depressao.blogsome.com/images/the_iron_giant.jpg

Spartan Rex
05-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Hey now, he was great as the voice of Brad Bird's The Iron Giant.:D

http://depressao.blogsome.com/images/the_iron_giant.jpg

Thank you for proving my point.
The Iron Giant never reallyspoke in complete sentences..he was monosyllabic.
Great movie though.

DarthNeil
05-07-2008, 02:32 PM
Thank you for proving my point.
The Iron Giant never reallyspoke in complete sentences..he was monosyllabic.
Great movie though.

That was my point... It was low-level sarcasm.:naughty

Bat Eater
05-07-2008, 02:53 PM
Through a channel that I just happen to have, I've forwarded the interest in Neal McDonough to his family to eventually get it to him.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2171/2474161728_1f731f7094.jpg


He kind of looks like Marvel legends icons captain america :monkey3

Spartan Rex
05-07-2008, 02:58 PM
McConahghey always comes across as a country bumpkin with that drawl hes got.
He has no range.

McDonough didnt overly impress as soldier Buck Compton in Band of Bros.
His age may be a factor if sequels are in the mix.

I wanted Aaron Eckhart for Thor but think he'd make a great Steve Rogers as well.
I dont trust present day Hollywood to do justice in a unabashedly patriotic american however.
Everything has to be "dirtied" up.
I give you exhibit A: G.I. Joe the movie.

Bat Eater
05-07-2008, 03:31 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2171/2474161728_1f731f7094.jpg

:D:D:D
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb107/sixx5888/Rock%20n%20%20Roll/one%20sixxers/CAP1.jpg

DarthNeil
05-16-2008, 06:33 PM
Just a thought-- but what about the guy who plays Titan (Mike O'Hearn--3 time Mr. Universe, Judo Champion..etc...)on American Gladiators for either Captain America or Thor?... All depends on his acting ability-- or lack thereof maybe.:D

http://www.americangladiatorstitan.com/assets/images/americangladiatortitan_04.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/071211/titan_l.jpg

http://www.nbc.com/American_Gladiators/images/bios/large/titan.jpg

Anzik
05-16-2008, 06:58 PM
He could work for Cap.

Here's my pick for Thor:
http://www.bodybuilders.com/gunter5.jpg

nanokiller
05-16-2008, 06:59 PM
Just a thought-- but what about the guy who plays Titan (Mike O'Hearn--3 time Mr. Universe, Judo Champion..etc...)on American Gladiators for either Captain America or Thor?... All depends on his acting ability-- or lack thereof maybe.:D

http://www.americangladiatorstitan.com/assets/images/americangladiatortitan_04.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/071211/titan_l.jpg

http://www.nbc.com/American_Gladiators/images/bios/large/titan.jpg

He would make a good Cap, well physically. I doubt he can act.

Anzik
05-16-2008, 07:02 PM
We live in an age where Tom Cruise is considered a great actor.

How good does he really need to be?

Bat Eater
05-16-2008, 07:27 PM
:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

cgdc
05-16-2008, 08:39 PM
I like Viggo Mortensen or Brad Pitt as Cap.
Johnny Depp as Red Skull.
Gerard Butler as Thor.

I don't care, just as long as it is a good actor, a good script and no black leather!

John1701D
05-16-2008, 08:52 PM
Even before a Cap movie became a certainty I thought Mark Valley from Boston Legal would make a great Steve Rogers.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/Wolf_359/mark_valley_big.jpg

DarthNeil
05-16-2008, 08:59 PM
I like Viggo Mortensen or Brad Pitt as Cap.
Johnny Depp as Red Skull.
Gerard Butler as Thor.

I don't care, just as long as it is a good actor, a good script and no black leather!

Whoever they cast will have to eventually hold the screen with Downey and Jackson (and possibly Norton) so hopefully it's definitely actors who can act but the real dilemma is that they have to have a physical presence as well. The Iron Man suit provides RDJ with that physical presence--- whoever is going to play Cap (and Thor for that matter) have to stand next to that suit and look both imposing and intimidating..not intimidated.

Rook
05-16-2008, 11:34 PM
Cole Hauser. :rock Just lighten his hair and he'd be perfect. Even Steve McNiven used his face as a template for Steve Rogers in "The Ultimates." Just pick up the issue in which he kicks the crap out of Giant Man, when he says, "Why? I look to you like the kinda guy who'd start a fight?"

It's the same book that gave us a Nick Fury that resembled Sam Jackson, and a Thor that resembled Brad Pitt. Case in point:

http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/image/CaptainAmerica_Thor.jpg

Anton Phibes
05-17-2008, 08:12 AM
I think if he's given the attention to detail and history that Iron Man was ...Cap would be awesome. I am not much on the Ultimate Universe (except for Spidey), so I hope its 616 cap we are going to see. But it'll probably be an amalgamation of the two Universes. While I was glad to see Nick Fury make his cameo in another film recently, I really wish it was the 616 Fury. The Ultimate Fury is a radically different character, and has none of the WW2 history/friendship with Cap that made him a sweet character. Even thoguh Samuel L. Jackson is one bad.... shut your mouth.:D

The Mike
05-17-2008, 08:41 AM
Every single one of the Ultimates Avengers were based off of actor's likenesses but the only one to sign off on the likeness rights were SLJ so they will continue to deny that there were any other templates even though interviews with both Millar and Hitch confirm it.

Khev
05-17-2008, 10:12 AM
I haven't browsed an Ultimates book in a while but wasn't Bruce Banner based off of Bill Gates?

Bardoon
05-17-2008, 10:41 AM
I know he probably can't act well...but I believe the BEST physical resemblence for Ultimate Thor is the wrestler, Triple H.

http://www.angryzenmaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/hhh.jpg

I know theres a few drawings of Ultimate Thor where Triple H is used as the reference.

DarthNeil
05-17-2008, 11:38 AM
I know he probably can't act well...but I believe the BEST physical resemblence for Ultimate Thor is the wrestler, Triple H.

http://www.angryzenmaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/hhh.jpg

I know theres a few drawings of Ultimate Thor where Triple H is used as the reference.

He wasn't atrocious when he was a vampire in Blade 3... However I believe he's slimmed down quite considerably in comparison to what he once was in the pre-Benoit roid rage WWE...

Spartan Rex
05-21-2008, 11:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HshFoAkHppo
Mike O'Hearn already took a turn as Superman.
All his muscles are well developed except his acting muscles, he cant emote.

Greg the Bunny Studios
05-21-2008, 11:42 AM
I haven't browsed an Ultimates book in a while but wasn't Bruce Banner based off of Bill Gates?

I thought he was originally Steve Buscemi.

Bat Eater
05-21-2008, 12:43 PM
I hate you guyz :monkey4 :D

The Mike
05-21-2008, 12:45 PM
I thought he was originally Steve Buscemi.

In attitude but not likeness.....I can't seem to find the interview where Hitch names all the stars and too lazy to go into the garage and find the Ultimates issues.

Agent0028
05-21-2008, 05:17 PM
I think if he's given the attention to detail and history that Iron Man was ...Cap would be awesome. I am not much on the Ultimate Universe (except for Spidey), so I hope its 616 cap we are going to see. But it'll probably be an amalgamation of the two Universes. While I was glad to see Nick Fury make his cameo in another film recently, I really wish it was the 616 Fury. The Ultimate Fury is a radically different character, and has none of the WW2 history/friendship with Cap that made him a sweet character. Even thoguh Samuel L. Jackson is one bad.... shut your mouth.:D

They could use the history aspect of the 616 universe and just use the face of the Ultimate universe.

Natrix
05-22-2008, 11:17 AM
SWEET!!! Looks like I was right about the Cap movie being set during WWII


Captain America movie will be set in World War II
Thursday May 22, 2008, 8:09 am


Marvel’s Captain America movie, planned for a May 2011 release, will be a period film, set during World War II.

So says Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige, who spoke to online journalists yesterday at Universal Studios about The First Avenger: Captain America and other projects.

That would seem to imply the movie will stay at least relatively true to the character’s comic-book origin, and tie directly into the Super-Soldier Serum references in The Incredible Hulk.

On that note, Feige confirmed speculation about a certain object glimpsed in a laboratory scene from Iron Man: Yes, that’s Captain America’s shield.

He also provided a few more details on Thor, saying that it will take place largely in Asgard, mythical home of the Norse gods: “”The film is not all Asgard, but it will be a big chunk in Asgard, yeah.”

Screenwriter Mark Protosevich (I Am Legend, The Cell) is expected to submit a draft of the script in a couple of weeks.

The Mike
05-22-2008, 11:21 AM
If you've read the first arc of the Ultimates this makes sense. So that means the Captain America design will most likely be the 1942 version with the Modern design not officially making itself known until the Avengers film.

Khev
05-22-2008, 11:42 AM
If you've read the first arc of the Ultimates this makes sense. So that means the Captain America design will most likely be the 1942 version with the Modern design not officially making itself known until the Avengers film.

Unless they have him upgrade his suit and shield pretty early on like they did with the Iron Man movie. Remember that his "modern" attire and shield were all upgrades during his early days in WWII. Its not like he picked up his round shield when they thawed him from the ice.

Captain Faramir
05-22-2008, 11:55 AM
A period film?!? FANTASTIC!!! That's awesome! I can't wait for this movie! Captain America is my favorite hero; this will be great!

ZombieReign
05-22-2008, 12:03 PM
I was thinking about this last night ... if they get an A-list actor for Cap and Thor, could you imagine the payroll on any Avengers film? This is why I think they will go with a lesser (or maybe even unknown) actor for these roles. No one wants to see their budget blown out on cast. Unless they offer some majorly sweet back-end deal for a % of gross and merchandising.

The Mike
05-22-2008, 12:08 PM
Unless they have him upgrade his suit and shield pretty early on like they did with the Iron Man movie. Remember that his "modern" attire and shield were all upgrades during his early days in WWII. Its not like he picked up his round shield when they thawed him from the ice.


Nope. Unless they do the thawing in this film, he never wears the modern uniform or the modern shield during WWII. Even in 616, the original versions he doesn't, further changes have been made but I doubt this storyline will take that aim. He is frozen, then thawed and then given the new stuff by SHIELD in the Ultimates and judging by the connections to the HULK (in Ultimates Banner is working on replicating the Super Soldier Serum) and IRON MAN (in Ultimates, Stark Tech funds a lot of the Ultimates gear and they've made reference to the shield already) I wouldn't expect anything modern in this film. It'll about how he became Captain America throughout a big battle end with a freezing and since the Avenger film is right after this, that's where he'll be unfrozen, modernized and take lead of the team.

Sick Boy 82
05-22-2008, 12:11 PM
Nope. Unless they do the thawing in this film, he never wears the modern uniform or the modern shield during WWII. He is frozen, then thawed and then given the new stuff by SHIELD in the Ultimates and judging by the connections to the HULK (in Ultimates Banner is working on replicating the Super Soldier Serum) and IRON MAN (in Ultimates, Stark Tech funds a lot of the Ultimates gear and they've made reference to the shield already) I wouldn't expect anything modern in this film. It'll about how he became Captain America throughout a big battle end with a freezing and since the Avenger film is right after this, that's where he'll be unfrozen, modernized and take lead of the team.

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for. Flesh out the other stuff in Hulk and then do this movie during WWII. Then when the Avengers movie comes around, that's when they bring Cap back. Killer storyline in the making. And I guess we will see even more in IM2!!

Khev
05-22-2008, 12:31 PM
Nope. Unless they do the thawing in this film, he never wears the modern uniform or the modern shield during WWII.

He sure does, starting with issue #2 in 1941. The blue ring around his shield was retconned out after Timely Comics became Marvel and they reintroduced him in Avengers #4.

http://captain-america.us/images/wallpaper/capcomics/cap2.jpg

Agent0028
05-22-2008, 12:45 PM
I think they will give him the round shield in the movie too, for people who aren't as familiar with the comics it may be disconcerting to have Cap with the other shield.

The Mike
05-22-2008, 12:53 PM
Don't be so shortsighted.


Summer 2011 with an Avengers-themed summer – a two-picture project which will debut on May 6, 2011 with The First Avenger: Captain America (working title), followed by The Avengers in July 2011.


We are dealing with a month in between.

You honestly don't see this version of Cap:

http://www.firesidecollectibles.com/productimages/SEP031944.jpg

Taking over his own film and have them in continuity explain and show off this design in an Avengers film?

http://marvellegends.net/MarvelLegends/ML08/CaptainAmerica01.jpg

Not only do you maximize merchandising profits but you also keep in continuity with the obvious one they are going for as well as giving the fans a nice nod and giving Captain America enough explanation and history to carry him into solo projects seamlessly.

Khev
05-22-2008, 01:01 PM
Gosh I hope they don't give us the Ultimates versions of his WWII and Silver/Bronze/Copper Age costumes. *Extremely* minor changes like they did with Superman and Spider-Man will be fine (and to tell you the truth, expected) but those Ultimates getups are just too far of a departure IMO. Give us the Marvel PF costumes in 1:1 scale please! :monkey5

Agent0028
05-22-2008, 01:04 PM
I think it would work, I just don't know if they will do it. Plus when Cap throws his shield it ricochets around the room knocking out multiple villains. I'm not sure if that makes as much sense with the non-round shield. But then maybe he won't throw the shield in the movie.

The Mike
05-22-2008, 01:12 PM
In the 1942 explanation it was more used as a shield against gunfire than anything else, he rarely threw it. When he got his rounded shield he incorporated it into a weapon.

As for the Ultimates look, its obvious that they are going for Ultimates story and continuity but wanting a look that is more traditional or else we would have gotten an Iron Man that looked like this:

http://www.starpulse.com/news/media/IM_ultimate_PS3.jpg

The designers of the suit were all told to take the modern Extremis armor and make it more logical and more doable in real life to which they did. The only look I see being a real dramatic departure from the traditional is Thor. But I wouldn't be surprised if they made Captain America more like the Ultimates and less like the spandex versions we all know.....they are definitely trying to keep it all as realistic as possible.

Sick Boy 82
05-22-2008, 01:21 PM
If we got a Cap that looked more like the one below, I don't think I could complain to much. I think he has just enouh WWII touches to make it work. The leather and pouches and chainmail looks right. But I was also not a huge Cap follower, so.....

http://marvellegends.net/MarvelLegends/ML08/CaptainAmerica01.jpg

Khev
05-22-2008, 01:49 PM
As for the Ultimates look, its obvious that they are going for Ultimates story and continuity but wanting a look that is more traditional or else we would have gotten an Iron Man that looked like this:

With regard to Captain America I don't think anything has been made obvious (at least as far as the links posted in this thread are concerned) about whether they'll follow the Ultimates reboot of the character or not. Sam Jackson in Iron Man for two seconds is obviously straight out of the Ultimates but Tony Stark being caucasian and the design of his suit are not.

Captain America is different than Iron Man or Batman in that constant redesigns of his suit are not a part of his character. For that reason I think they should stick with his most iconic look (again, like filmmakers did with Spider-Man and Superman.) I didn't like his rebooted personality in Ultimates either so hopefully they just shy away from that universe pretty much straight across the board for his film.

He's a 60+ year old character that doesn't need to suffer from an inferior redesign that's just a few years old.

Bat Eater
05-22-2008, 02:06 PM
I never liked that suit, no wings on his head BOOOOOOOO :monkey4

Agent0028
05-22-2008, 02:14 PM
I never quite got the point of the wings. They always seemed a little odd to me.

The Mike
05-22-2008, 02:32 PM
With regard to Captain America I don't think anything has been made obvious (at least as far as the links posted in this thread are concerned) about whether they'll follow the Ultimates reboot of the character or not. Sam Jackson in Iron Man for two seconds is obviously straight out of the Ultimates but Tony Stark being caucasian and the design of his suit are not.

As I said clearly, the designs of the suits were always meant to follow a more 616 design from the get go. As for the Ultimates universe, you either do not read the Ultimates books or have forgotten many of the obvious tie ins. In the 616 world, Iron Man could put the suit on himself, in fact now its portable while in the Ultimates world he needed a whole team of machines to fasten and tighten his suit, not to mention it was only charged to run on a limited amount of time, a fact that we heard in the film as well. Also in the Ultimates world, Nick Fury contracts Stark not only as Iron Man but to provide the tech to help create the Ultimates, the scene we saw eluded to in the after credits scene. Tony Stark was not cascasian in the Ultimates world, he was Latino but if you've read Card's stuff they've downplayed that a bit and in the Ultimates world he suffers from a brain tumor that isn't operable not a heart condition....again difference do occur but its obvious if you read the first arc of the Ultimates and see just how the team was assembled in modern times not to mention that the Hulk storyline directly borrows from that in having Banner working on a Super Soldier Serum to try and recreate what was done in the past and having to be taken down by Ross as we are seeing in the trailer as well is directly from the Ultimates Team Ups that occurred pre-Ultimates #1....

The connections and links are clear there are more in the various threads but I'm too lazy to name or find them all and they are following that continuity but wanting to keep the 616 origins in order to make them modern as Ultimates has done but still recognizable to hardcore fans.

As for Captain America he'd had his share of redesigns in costuming, the only differences is that he held a type of costume regularly for a good amount of time, but some DC fans would argue the Blue/Grey Neal Adams Batman which held long time cross over continuity and even the Neal Adams or Swan Superman would follow that same line.

A Marvel fan could not argue that many of Kirby's designs are the iconic most recognized looks that were just modified by artists like Romita Sr and that they should have kept that, look at Alex Ross' work which is heavily inspired from the Silver Age but if you are arguing that Superman and Spider-Man kept true to the original recognizable designs then you haven't read the uproar when the first film's Spider-Man costuming was announced or even how many fans disliked the Christopher Reeve look down to the "S" that differs from the standard Comic S and let's not get into Superman Returns.


A redesign of Cap will happen like it or not because the looks themselves of Spandex do not in any way make sense in the modern world. Superman's look was tampered with as much as would be allowed in reality but as the X-Men showed the spandex costume design isn't one that Marvel is hellbent on keeping intact. The good news is with Spider-Man we got a classic look modernized as we did with Iron Man so I fully expect that the film Captain America will be fully 616 inspired but will in no way be what we got from Sideshow in PF form.

Lastly, look at the first real arc of the Ultimates, it was about forming the team and rediscovering Captain America who was thought lost forever after 1942. It reintroduces him to society who has forgotten him (his meeting with Bucky was great) and it uses the comedy of him having to assimulate into modern society but still having 1940s morals and attitudes. I do not see the writers moving away from what Millar has done so beautifully. His comics play out perfectly on screen as well they should since he said he attacked them like a screenplay and not a comic.

Sick Boy 82
05-22-2008, 02:33 PM
I never quite got the point of the wings. They always seemed a little odd to me.

Yeah, right. I mean, they do fit in my mind after seeing them on him for so long, but what the hell are they there for. He can't fly. And if they were to represent swiftness, they would be on his ankles like the Greek messanger whose name escapes me at this time.

Agent0028
05-22-2008, 03:20 PM
Hermes. :) Love greek mythology.

Mike, your post makes me want to get out my Ultimates TPB and re-read it.

Bat Eater
05-22-2008, 03:38 PM
:monkey4 Ultimates:emperor

Agent0028
05-22-2008, 03:57 PM
I liked the first story arc in the Ultimates, I didn't care as much for the others.

The Mike
05-22-2008, 06:16 PM
For me the Ultimates was a mini-series that only ran one arc. Picked up Ultimates 2 and never got into it and haven't even given Loeb's version a chance.....

Khev
05-22-2008, 09:22 PM
As I said clearly, the designs of the suits were always meant to follow a more 616 design from the get go. As for the Ultimates universe, you either do not read the Ultimates books or have forgotten many of the obvious tie ins.

I've only browsed the two Ultimates mini-series. I'm pretty much a straight "616" guy and I think the whole Ultimates universe will in due time amount to nothing more than a passing and abandoned fad. Of course time will tell if I'm correct or not. It does sound like there were more Ultimates references in the Iron Man (and apparently Hulk) film than I was aware of. I'm glad they didn't deviate too much from classic designs or concepts for Hulk and Iron Man, hopefully Cap's iconic look will survive his film as well. Its not like it would be a deal breaker for me if they modified it (in fact I already stated that I *expect* them to do some tweaks to make it work in live-action) if overall his original concept remains intact and its a good movie.

Khev
05-22-2008, 09:27 PM
I think it would work, I just don't know if they will do it. Plus when Cap throws his shield it ricochets around the room knocking out multiple villains. I'm not sure if that makes as much sense with the non-round shield.

Yep, which is what Cap himself determined shortly after taking his diamond shield into combat in WWII. He *quickly* upgraded to the round shield even during his Golden Age run. Hopefully the filmmakers "get" how much more cinematic it will be for him doing the ricochet attacks and don't wait a whole movie before giving him his iconic shield. I still hope he starts out with the diamond, I just don't want them to overdo it. Imagine if Tony Stark wore nothing but his clunky gray armor for the entire movie!

The Mike
05-22-2008, 09:33 PM
Apples and Oranges. Stark in the Mark 01 for a whole film would be slow especially considering that they'd need a Mark 02 and then 03. Captain America doesn't have much build up as you said, its mainly the same character just brought from that timeperiod to this one. The Ultimates version has the team brought together once he is found and the first arc was about thawing and bringing Cap to the 21st century. Even if they don't follow the Ultimates storyline that is probably the way they'll go. So, I can see him being in full 1942 get up for the first film. Now, he could in theory use the circular shield and then have Tony build him a "better" one but they could easily do just the Silver Age shield the whole way through the first film.

Agent0028
05-22-2008, 09:33 PM
I pretty much got in to the Ultimate Universe because there was less backstory and easier to get in to. The only 616 stuff I read the big crossover things like House of M and Civil War. I also read New Avengers (since I don't care Ultimates all that much), Captain America Iron Man, and Ms. Marvel because they are some of my favorites and don't have ultimate lines to themselves.

Khev
05-23-2008, 08:50 AM
Now, he could in theory use the circular shield and then have Tony build him a "better" one but they could easily do just the Silver Age shield the whole way through the first film.

Mike I think you may be a bit confused about the evolution of the Captain America character. I'm not saying that to be snarky, I've recently learned my fair share about Cap in the 21st century and Ultimates.

Captain America's round shield did NOT debut in the "Silver Age" (maybe that was a simple typo on your part?) He acquired it in Captain America Comics #2 (released in 1941 under Timely Comics and already posted in this thread.) At the time his uniform only had stripes on the front of his torso and there was a blue ring around the outside of his shield. The 40's and 50's are considered to be the "Golden Age" of comics. Then, in the 60's (beginning of the Silver Age), Marvel Comics reintroduced him into the Marvel U and tweaked his suit and shield in a very slight retcon (added stripes to his back, changed blue ring on shield to red.) That 60's retcon became the iconic Captain America for over 45 years. No tweaks to the costume came until the 21st Century Modern Age where they retconned his suit one more time (even his WWII suit) to have an army belt and lace up boots.

During the 45+ years of Captain America's iconic suit, that is, this one,

http://www.fantomcomics.com/Captain-America-Card.jpg

*Steve Rogers* wore a couple of different outfits (Nomad Costume, Black "US Agent" suit) but the suit of "Captain America" stayed the same (ie, when he stepped down as Cap and wore the black suit John Walker took over the role and still wore the classic costume.) There was one brief stint where he wore silly looking body armor in the 90's and then of course "Heroes Reborn" where Rob Liefeld changed his "A" to an eagle. Very brief costume tweaks that resulted in quick changes back to the original design.

The point is that his diamond shield was used *very* briefly, for a much shorter time than say Iron Man's Mark I armor. Apparently in The Ultimates, (a pocket universe and not at ALL true continuity of the classic character) he used the diamond shield exclusively in WWII. But that's just the Ultimates, and a disclaimer should always be mentioned when referencing it. Maybe the movie will go that route and maybe they will stick to the decades old iconic telling of his tale. We'll have to see.

The Mike
05-23-2008, 09:20 AM
Captain America's round shield did NOT debut in the "Silver Age" (maybe that was a simple typo on your part?)

Yes, it was a typo I do it everytime, I meant Golden Age shield. The Silver Age is defined for the most part with Marvel's entrance as Marvel and so I often forget that Marvel themselves has had quite a few heroes that were around in the Golden Age. I understand your point about Cap and keeping everything uniform but looking at the data from Marvel's films past where updates have always been done to the costume that recently have stayed out of the comic depictions and the strive is to make them more realistic and less "cartoony" for lack of a better word. I wouldn't get my hopes up on seeing Cap done as we are used to and while the Ultimates version is probably not going to be used something of a mix between the two is what we'll see.

Blackhole
05-23-2008, 10:04 AM
I wouldn't mind having a Cap that looks like this for PART of the film...kind of what Iron Man did with Mk I and II before showing off Mk III...

http://www.firesidecollectibles.com/productimages/SEP031944.jpg

Agent0028
05-23-2008, 10:30 AM
Wasn't there some sort of copyright infringement that caused them to change the shield from the diamond to the circle?

The Mike
05-23-2008, 11:05 AM
Wasn't there some sort of copyright infringement that caused them to change the shield from the diamond to the circle?

Officially yes, Archie Comics (MLJ) threaten to bring suit because the Shield he carried resembled the main part of the character ironically called "The Shield" that was out at the time:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/PepComics1.jpeg

Compared to:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/1974ComicArtCon_book.jpg

As the storyline goes though the rounded shield is personally presented to him by President Franklin Roosevelt.

There are even two different Triangular shields in continuity with the 616 world. The original was given to the Black Panther and the second was stolen and given eventually to the Patriot from the Young Avengers.

Blackhole
05-23-2008, 11:29 AM
I think I actually prefer his shield...shield over his round one...

And I'm sure Marvel can put that shield in the movie now...

The Shield can't still be going...

The Mike
05-23-2008, 11:49 AM
I believe the design rights were purchased officially by Marvel in the 1990s, that's why you see it used in many different capacities of the Marvel Universe now.

Khev
05-23-2008, 12:26 PM
I wouldn't get my hopes up on seeing Cap done as we are used to and while the Ultimates version is probably not going to be used something of a mix between the two is what we'll see.

I just hope they keep the wings on his head. They might not make sense but its such an integral part of his look. If they wanted him to have other touches based on his modern look (boot laces, belt pouches) I won't throw a fit (ESPECIALLY if Rogers well cast and its a kick-ass flick). I still hope they at least try to give us a 100% iconic uniform. I think the PF shows how it can be done "realistically" for lack of a better word.

Khev
05-23-2008, 12:29 PM
I believe the design rights were purchased officially by Marvel in the 1990s, that's why you see it used in many different capacities of the Marvel Universe now.

They probably picked up the rights even sooner than the 90's since original shield design popped back up during John Byrne's run in the early 80's.

http://www.marvelessentials.com/features/images/stern_comic09.jpg

What's funny is that the retconned diamond shield (no blue stripes) is even closer to "The Shield's" costume than back during the time of the threatened legal action. :lol

The Mike
05-23-2008, 01:57 PM
Not sure if it was mentioned here or not yet with all the other Cap discussion but Matthew Mcconaughey was announced as not in the running for Cap by a couple of sites.

Agent0028
05-23-2008, 05:25 PM
Well that's good news, to me at least.

Sick Boy 82
05-23-2008, 10:12 PM
New Cap and Avengers Update:

The First Avenger: Captain America To Be Set in WWII! (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/05/23/the-first-avenger-captain-america-to-be-set-in-wwii/)

Blackhole
05-24-2008, 06:43 AM
Reading another article, anyone see anything out of place in this pic?

http://www.firstshowing.net/img/ironman-cptamerica-shield.jpg

That's good news though...means hopefully, we'll get his WW2 look (see my post a couple of pages back) for at least part of the film, and maybe the look of the EX PF otherwise...

I also hope Red Skull looks more like the Sideshow PF, and not with his lame green jumpsuit...

They best not screw this up...it would seem that Marvel finally got the superhero movie formula right...

LISTEN TO THE FANS!!!

DarthNeil
05-24-2008, 06:47 AM
They best not screw this up...it would seem that Marvel finally got the superhero movie formula right...

LISTEN TO THE FANS!!!

It's a novel concept that most other studios/movie properties can't seem to grasp.

Just glad that Matthew McConaughey is seemingly not in the running...

http://www.raisethetitanic.com/sahara/movie/misc_wp/castcrew/images/mm/pic_05.jpg

Nazis man... Love 'em. The older I get-- they stay the same age.

Blackhole
05-24-2008, 06:51 AM
^^^What this guy said...

djklambake
05-24-2008, 06:54 AM
Cap's gonna be set in WWII... man... that just made my day! DC should take notes - From Iron Man all the way to Avengers in 2011... Marvel is doing this RIGHT!

Sick Boy 82
05-24-2008, 07:43 AM
Yeah, I think with Marvel Studios in control of the money on all their projects now, all the movies will be a lot more comic accurate, which is how most of us fans always hope the movies will be.

After the Spider-Man franchise fiasco, they finally learned their lesson. To bad that Sony still owns the rights, because Marvel Studios might just have been able to bring it back from the major **** swallowing the last 2 movies have been. Oh well.

Natrix
05-24-2008, 03:55 PM
New Cap and Avengers Update:

The First Avenger: Captain America To Be Set in WWII! (http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/05/23/the-first-avenger-captain-america-to-be-set-in-wwii/)

We have been talking about that for a couple of days...

IronFingaz
05-24-2008, 04:53 PM
Reading another article, anyone see anything out of place in this pic?

http://www.firstshowing.net/img/ironman-cptamerica-shield.jpg

That's good news though...means hopefully, we'll get his WW2 look (see my post a couple of pages back) for at least part of the film, and maybe the look of the EX PF otherwise...

I also hope Red Skull looks more like the Sideshow PF, and not with his lame green jumpsuit...

They best not screw this up...it would seem that Marvel finally got the superhero movie formula right...

LISTEN TO THE FANS!!!

Is that the Cap shield in the back?

Bat Eater
05-24-2008, 05:01 PM
Yes sir :monkey5

Blackhole
05-25-2008, 04:33 AM
It sure is...

Nick Fury the first reference...

BAH!!!

Khev
05-25-2008, 06:06 AM
Needless to say, with the first Cap movie being set entirely in WWII the time to finally buy that Exclusive Captain America PF if you haven't already is NOW, NOW, NOW.

Pics courtesy of myself and various other board members:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/kevlamb74/BellaCrawling003.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/kevlamb74/BellaCrawling005.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j289/terry35mm/Statues/Cap3.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j289/terry35mm/Statues/Cap4.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/Hew_bucket/Picture297.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/7Sign/IMG_0030.png

I predict that in 2010/11 the WWII Cap PF will exceed current Hulk PF prices. :flag

6Series
06-06-2008, 12:13 PM
What? No Vin Diesel fans here? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Personally, I hope the Cappy movie will make do without that costume, it looks nice in comics and cartoon and statues but in reel life, not sure.

The Mike
06-08-2008, 02:05 PM
http://marvelousnews.com/index.php?catid=23&itemid=11542

Click the link, watch the video and see the director himself confirm or deny.

Agent0028
06-08-2008, 02:38 PM
Cool, looks like I'm gonna go see the Hulk.

spekerol
06-08-2008, 05:23 PM
this movie will top them all i hope 1/3 indiana jones 1/2 all american hero with throwing shield way cool

Spartan Rex
06-15-2008, 01:29 PM
The scoop mongers at Latinoreview have covertly discovered who Marvel wants to pick up Steve Rogers shield last seen on Tony Stark’s workbench!

Marvel has been having one hell of a week. First the Jon Favreau controversy, then we have a he said/ she said argument brewing over Captain America’s cameo, oh and tomorrow THE INCREDIBLE HULK opens which kicked all sorts of ass.

Well, speaking of CAPTAIN AMERICA, I have myself a trusted source internally over at Marvel and they are now starting to toss names for the role of Steve Rogers.

The name at the top of the list?

LEONARDO DICAPRIO



Now before some loser film website goes out there and tries to debunk me let’s get it straight. Don’t expect Marvel to go on the record and say “Yes it’s true, we are looking at so and so.” Hollywood doesn’t work like that. Studios and production companies only go on the record to announce the casting of a role when it’s official. I announced the lead in the upcoming Prince of Persia. It took the trades weeks later to make it official. That being said…

NO OFFERS HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY MADE! NOBODY HAS BEEN CAST YET! DICAPRIO IS PROBABLY CLUELESS AT THIS POINT!

Just because Marvel wants him, doesn’t mean they are going to get him. Studios and production companies put together their wish lists when they are casting and work their way down the list. I personally believe DiCaprio is an odd choice. To me, Leo’s tall and lanky figure is perfect for Steve Rogers pre-super soldier serum but I wonder how they are going to make Leo look like a bulked up super soldier. Don’t get me wrong, he has the chops for the role but DiCaprio is awfully busy these days developing ATARI, FLEMING and a host of other projects over at Appian way.

Marvel is aiming real high when it comes to talent and rightfully so, it has paid off for them tremendously. I believe to get DiCaprio, they’re gonna have to nail down a kick ass script and a director first.

You know else is also on the list in case they don’t get DiCaprio?

BRAD PITT



Marvel wants to be in the Brad Pitt business. They are willing to cast him either as THOR or CAPTAIN AMERICA. Now Brad Pitt as Captain America would be bad ass but as it stands right now…

…Marvel wants Leonardo DiCaprio as Captain America! (Blech)

and this.........

The hottest news is that on the eve of The Incredible Hulk's release, fans are in a frenzy over rumors regarding a cameo appearance by Captain America. Despite Leterrier's statements that Cap was cut from an artic sequence, Hurd personally told us he was never in the film.

"He didn't really mean the character of Captain America, unless there's something that I don't know...Captain America was not visible in that scene."

Who are you gonna believe, the director of the film or the big boss herself?

Darklord Dave
06-15-2008, 02:07 PM
Any actor can bulk up. Leo was bigger in The Departed and there's no denying he's a good actor. As I stated in the Thor thread - they have to have someone who can hold their own with the likes of Downey and Norton (if he continues as Banner). You can't have an unknown in that group.

DarthNeil
06-15-2008, 02:11 PM
http://originaldo.com/leonardo-dicaprio-rambo.jpg

http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/akira_dicaprio.jpg

http://images.google.ca/url?q=http://www.wardsmythe.com/deananddeaner.gif&usg=AFQjCNE248QHB2EXuFcR0gG5kUOeBWTXLQ

After these roles (all just rumours) Cap will be a go.:D

Spartan Rex
06-15-2008, 02:24 PM
Any actor can bulk up. Leo was bigger in The Departed and there's no denying he's a good actor. As I stated in the Thor thread - they have to have someone who can hold their own with the likes of Downey and Norton (if he continues as Banner). You can't have an unknown in that group.

He can "bulk up" all he wants...he's too friggin short for starters.
No amount of working out will change that.

The Mike
06-15-2008, 02:29 PM
I just came back from watching Iron Man with a few friends and did anyone notice that when Yensid died, the bag of "grain"? that was on him had a circular American Flag with the 1940s shield design on it?

Awesome. DiCaprio might do it....he was in the frontrunning for Spider-Man and lost that role out to Tobey....he could see this as a second chance offer.....Pitt as Thor would be awesome but I'd hold my judgment on DiCaprio as Cap until I see him in costuming....

Think of the Avengers line up if it all comes to pass: Downey Jr, Norton, DiCaprio and Pitt? Talk about All-Stars...

The Mike
06-15-2008, 02:30 PM
He can "bulk up" all he wants...he's too friggin short for starters.
No amount of working out will change that.

Ask Tom Cruise about that. :lol

Camera angles do amazing things my friend. Moot Point.

Raelthorne
06-15-2008, 03:33 PM
Although I think DiCaprio is a good but overrated actor, the idea of him as Captain America does not sit well with me.

Spartan Rex
06-15-2008, 03:44 PM
Ask Tom Cruise about that. :lol

Camera angles do amazing things my friend. Moot Point.

Havent seen a movie yet where Tom looked taller then he is...let alone attempt a 6'4-6'6 super soldier. Angles get you only so far buddy.

Leo also doesnt have the commanding presence, charisma or facial features to pull off the living legend.

Anzik
06-15-2008, 03:56 PM
Captain America has to have charisma.
Leo has none.

Darth Loki
06-15-2008, 04:28 PM
He would make a good Steve Rogers (before the Super Serum)

Agent0028
06-15-2008, 05:03 PM
I don't see him as Cap either.

Bat Eater
06-15-2008, 05:59 PM
Leo? ^^^^ that ^^^^er

Agent23
06-15-2008, 06:15 PM
I'm not thrilled either with the thought of DiCaprio as Captain America. But, I was also turned off when I read that Robert Downey Jr. was going to be Iron Man / Tony Stark.

I was impressed with the job he did, as I loved the Iron Man movie, and I loved Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man / Tony Stark. So, if DiCaprio does wind up with the part, I'll reserve judgment till I see the movie. He could turn out to be pretty good in it...

The Mike
06-15-2008, 06:18 PM
Havent seen a movie yet where Tom looked taller then he is...let alone attempt a 6'4-6'6 super soldier. Angles get you only so far buddy.

Have you seen Minority Report? Neal McDonough is 6 feet even. Tom is 5'7". While they aren't seeing eye to eye there definitely doesn't look to be a 5 inch difference between the two. Not to mention Colin Farrell is 5'10" yet throughout the film looked taller than Neal.

http://www.mediacircus.net/minorityreport2.jpg

In modern cinema height is a moot point. Also the argument was based on Leo playing Cap, Tom was only an example. Leo is 6 even. Cap is 6'2". People actually think they can't adjust two inches? In boots? Bam. No issue.

I don't see Leo as Cap. But remember history has shown that those who are thought not to be able to fill the shoes of their parts have usually surpassed expectations. People said that Christopher Reeve couldn't play a living legend yet his Superman is the most remembered despite many playing the part before and after him.

People said Ledger would suck as the Joker yet he seems to be stealing all the thunder from that film even before his death.

People said that Routh couldn't play Superman either. Yet after SR, his performance was one of the only saving graces of that film and his subtile yet powerful portrayal was dead on in comparison to Reeve.

People had their doubts about Norton and Downey Jr as well.

If the past is any indication then if DiCaprio is casted then he'll do outstanding. He is a tall guy who can act and for me that IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING! After Iron Man and Incredible Hulk I have the upmost faith in Marvel Studios. Fill the roles with actual actors then tailor the characters to their strengths while keeping true to the source material. I don't see the issue.

Agent0028
06-15-2008, 06:22 PM
Good points Mike. My problem is I still think of him as the guy all the girl's were going nuts over when Titanic came out. I'm not much of a moviegoer so I've not seen his more recent movies, although I've heard he's come a long way since then.

Neal McDonough is still my prime choice. Athough I'll confess I don't knwow much about his acting skills.

Darklord Dave
06-15-2008, 06:23 PM
According to IMDB Leo is 6'1". And Downey stood on a box whenever he had a scene with Gwyneth Paltrow. Height really isn't the issue. And I can't see how anyone who has seen The Departed can say Leo doesn't have charisma.

The Mike
06-15-2008, 06:24 PM
I can't believe people are still hung up on height and prior baggage. Good point on Downey Dave, he is only 5'7" although listed often as 5'8".

Leo is an outstanding actor and if he is brought into this, I have no fears.

The Mike
06-15-2008, 06:53 PM
Check this out: The title art:

http://www.mtv.com//movies/photos/blog/javits_photos_061008/marvel_javits_061008.jpg

Its from the New York Licensing Expo that just passed....

Article here:

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/06/11/first-look-at-iron-man-ii-thor-captain-america-and-avengers-well-sort-of/

DarthNeil
06-15-2008, 07:08 PM
Check this out: The title art:

http://www.mtv.com//movies/photos/blog/javits_photos_061008/marvel_javits_061008.jpg

Its from the New York Licensing Expo that just passed....

Article here:

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/06/11/first-look-at-iron-man-ii-thor-captain-america-and-avengers-well-sort-of/

Nothing in '09...:monkey2

:lol

Agent0028
06-15-2008, 07:35 PM
I think we're going to need the summer of 09 to recover from the summer of 08. I know I'm spending way more at the movies this year than average.

Bardoon
06-15-2008, 09:17 PM
Nothing in '09...:monkey2

:lol

Wolverine comes out in 2009 doesn't it?

Amir
06-15-2008, 09:44 PM
Check this out: The title art:

http://www.mtv.com//movies/photos/blog/javits_photos_061008/marvel_javits_061008.jpg

Its from the New York Licensing Expo that just passed....

Article here:

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/06/11/first-look-at-iron-man-ii-thor-captain-america-and-avengers-well-sort-of/

Where's the HULK II banner :monkey2:monkey2:monkey2

The Mike
06-15-2008, 09:59 PM
The Hulk sequel will be greenlit this coming week watch. Although it remains to be seen if Marvel Studios will push to have it out in 2010 or allow it to rock 2011.....

The Mike
07-25-2008, 05:59 PM
http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/barrowmanca.jpg

SDCC: Torchwood Star Up for Captain America?
Source: Silas Lesnick
July 24, 2008


John Barrowman, the star of "Torchwood," was just asked moments ago at the San Diego Comic-Con panel if there was any possibility that he would be playing Captain America in the upcoming feature film.

He smiled and gave the stock answer that he'd love to play the character and that Captain America has always been his favorite comic book superhero. Clearly, though, the notion did not take him by surprise and he ended up admitting there had been discussions with his agents and meetings on that very issue.

What do you think? Though maybe not the star-power that the studio might be looking for, Barrowman certainly fits the bill. We'll bring you more news as it develops.

The First Avenger: Captain America is currently scheduled for a May 6, 2011 release.

The Mike
08-05-2008, 08:11 PM
So Marvel might be going away from A Caliber actors if this is true:

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2008/08/05/titan-american-gladiators.jpg
American Gladiator Might Be Captain America, Conan
Aug 5 2008

/Film has received a tip that Mike O'Hearn, better known (only known) as the American Gladiator Titan (aka, the one who occasionally turns into a blonde Hulk), revealed to an Omaha radio show that he's up for the leads in Conan and Captain America.

I don't know about this. Sure, he has the physique, but an American Gladiator playing Captain America. I mean, yeah, when I say it like that it sounds like it makes perfect sense, but come on. What are this guy's qualifications? Let's see what NBC.com has to say:

With nearly godlike strength and skill, he is the ultimate warrior. Able to physically dominate foes with his impressive physique, he is equally adept at mind games and will attempt to mentally defeat opponents before the battle even begins. Titan is a double threat who will find a way to win... one way or another.
Well, I guess it doesn't matter if we like these casting choices or not; he's going to take the roles one way or another regardless. Unless this is just another one of Titan's famous mind games...

BXCOLLECTOR
08-05-2008, 08:59 PM
who do you guys think should play thor in the movie

tomandshell
08-05-2008, 09:02 PM
Jason Alexander.

BXCOLLECTOR
08-05-2008, 09:08 PM
ha thats funny

cablecommander
08-05-2008, 10:10 PM
I think Mike O'Hearn would be a good fit for Thor more than Cap. He might be a little too muscular for Cap.

Memnoch
08-05-2008, 10:12 PM
I can really see John Barrowman doing Capt. He has male and female appeal, already has a fan base, is known in both the US and the UK and he can act very well.

The Mike
08-07-2008, 07:44 PM
08.07.2008
Article by Shawn Darnell

Captain America movie in CGI???
The internet is abuzz with a rumor that, if true, could destroy the goodwill movies like Iron Man have built up for Marvel.
The inevitable Avengers movie hinges on the inclusion of a certain red, white and blue superhero. The nasty rumor floating around the series of tubes is that the Captain America movie is completely screwed before it even begins.
Apparently, the people in charge of such things are having trouble casting the lead role in the movie slated to hit theaters in 2011. Their solution is to say, “To hell with it, let's just make a crappy cartoon.”
Yes, the new Captain America movie might be animated. A CGI animated movie to be exact. Of course, this is the worse possible news for Cap fans and hopefully it remains just a rumor. If it isn't, expect the entire internet to catch fire sometime soon. We'll keep you posted as the situation develops.

Agent0028
08-07-2008, 07:45 PM
Bah, I'm throwing down the bullcrap flag on that one.

The Mike
08-07-2008, 08:55 PM
I just report the news I don't write it.....but I have a strong agreement on that. :lol

Chapter 2099
08-07-2008, 09:32 PM
I just report the news I don't write it.....but I have a strong agreement on that. :lol

I have to agree. There's no way I can see Marvel going with a CGI Capt. There's definitely an actor out there that fits the bill. It's only a matter of time until he's signed. If Marvel can come up with Downey Jr. and Norton for their respective roles, then they can surely come up with someone to fill Captain America's boots.

Amir
08-07-2008, 09:36 PM
I'm sure they will find a real life actor for the part, but I can also see a CGI Beowulf style animation project to represent the Marvel Universe as well. I want both actually, sometimes some aspects of comic book life just doesn't translate well from comic book into real life, but in a CGI movie can recreate it all.

The Mike
10-06-2008, 08:18 PM
Plot for 'Captain America' Movie Revealed
According to Production Weekly, here's the proposed plot synopsis for the upcoming Captain America movie:

Born during the Great Depression, Steve Rogers grew up a frail youth in a poor family. Horrified by the newsreel footage of the Nazis in Europe, Rogers was inspired to enlist in the army. However, because of his frailty and sickness, he was rejected. Overhearing the boy's earnest plea, General Chester Phillips offered Rogers the opportunity to take part in a special experiment… Operation: Rebirth. After weeks of tests, Rogers was at last administered the 'Super-Soldier Serum' and bombarded by 'vita-rays.' Steve Rogers emerged from the treatment with a body as perfect as a body can be and still be human. Rogers was then put through an intensive physical and tactical training program. Three months later, he was given his first assignment as Captain America. Armed with his indestructible shield and and battle savvy, Captain America has continued his war against evil both as a sentinel of liberty and leader of the Avengers.

No real spoilers if you know anything about the mythos.

Agent0028
10-06-2008, 08:35 PM
I think its funny that is even considered to be a revelation of the plot.

Anzik
10-06-2008, 08:52 PM
I hope they keep it set during WWII and have it end with him being frozen.

The Mike
10-06-2008, 10:17 PM
There were rumors that the filmmakers were planning on having it begin as he was being unfrozen and having the origins told via flashback. Another rumor had him already fighting with SHIELD against Terrorists in the Middle East and remembering his origins as he faced similar events as his first fight as Captain America.

While not really a revelation its definitely calming a couple of those rumors that were gaining strength as news of the film seemed to stop for a while

Agent0028
10-07-2008, 08:18 AM
The second rumor sucks. The first one isn't too bad, but I think with Captain America being followed so closely by the Avengers that it makes more sense for it to be set during WWII and frozen at the end.

The Mike
10-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Red Skull make up test for First Avenger: Captain America???
My sources are claiming that this was a makeup test done for Paramount last month, and that the photos are real and untouched. A colleague of mine described this video as a great "college presentation", i know, no way this can be real. But hey, you never know. Besides it's still pretty cool to look at.

http://www.bamkapow.com/ul/1958-red-skull.jpg

http://www.bamkapow.com/red-skull-make-up-test-for-first-avenger-captain-america--1958-p.html

toyreveewer
10-11-2008, 09:08 AM
no red skull can beat 91's!!!
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq279/wandecosho/Redskull.jpg
:lol

toyreveewer
10-12-2008, 10:50 AM
I can really see John Barrowman doing Capt. He has male and female appeal, already has a fan base, is known in both the US and the UK and he can act very well.

hes too old, has no chin , and hes gay.

Vader AL
10-12-2008, 10:56 AM
hes too old, has no chin , and hes gay.

strike 1, 2, and a big 3 for that actor. next.

Memnoch
10-12-2008, 11:27 AM
Wow.. didn't know sexual orientation mattered at all when playing a fictional character. :rolleyes:

toyreveewer
10-12-2008, 12:05 PM
Wow.. didn't know sexual orientation mattered at all when playing a fictional character. :rolleyes:

the contraversy, is the problem,not as many will see it , its just that simple. mike o'hearn for cap!!!!

Memnoch
10-12-2008, 12:29 PM
the contraversy, is the problem,not as many will see it , its just that simple. mike o'hearn for cap!!!!

Why wouldn't people go see it? Did people stop watching movies with Jodie Foster or something similar? Just because you are prejudiced doesn't mean everyone is.

toyreveewer
10-12-2008, 12:50 PM
Why wouldn't people go see it? Did people stop watching movies with Jodie Foster or something similar? Just because you are prejudiced doesn't mean everyone is.

okay, the mass audience look up to something manly, a superhero such as captain america is supposed to reflect that inner man and that is why he is "captain america" in the first place. people, the mass audience, wont think that is right, and therefore boycott it and will have a very hard time to accept it. and for one, jody foster never was in the same situation, were she had to be a frikin superhero.was she cap? no i dont think so.

praxitas
10-12-2008, 01:39 PM
strike 1, 2, and a big 3 for that actor. next.

:rotfl:rotfl:lol:rotfl:rotfl

Memnoch
10-12-2008, 01:44 PM
okay, the mass audience look up to something manly, a superhero such as captain america is supposed to reflect that inner man and that is why he is "captain america" in the first place. people, the mass audience, wont think that is right, and therefore boycott it and will have a very hard time to accept it. and for one, jody foster never was in the same situation, were she had to be a frikin superhero.was she cap? no i dont think so.

So a man is now judged by sexual preference and not by their deeds? Does the mass audience even know most actors sexual preference (and by most actors I ask you to realize there are actors who have lives and don't end up in the tabloids all the time)?

Anzik
10-12-2008, 01:46 PM
Gay actor playing a superhero has been done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/zieglarf/06/shipp.jpg

That didn't work out so well but I don't think it had anything to do with the orientation of JWS.

toyreveewer
10-12-2008, 06:27 PM
So a man is now judged by sexual preference and not by their deeds? Does the mass audience even know most actors sexual preference (and by most actors I ask you to realize there are actors who have lives and don't end up in the tabloids all the time)?

like i said, more people are predjudus than not, so it wouldnt be accepted by the mass audience.plus ,he is not big enough, doesnt look anything like cap, and just doesnt fit the role. how many times do i need to say the same things??:duh

Bodie The Cursed
10-12-2008, 09:50 PM
hes too old, has no chin , and hes gay.

Grow up man, seriously..

toyreveewer
10-13-2008, 07:23 AM
Grow up man, seriously..

its actually true ^^^^er

Memnoch
10-13-2008, 07:29 AM
its actually true ^^^^er

Maybe in your world. I'd be willing to bet that it wouldn't really raise an eye brow to the general public, only the comic fans. And let's face it, you don't get the BO numbers of TDK and Iron Man when you cater to just comic fans.

toyreveewer
10-13-2008, 07:30 AM
Maybe in your world. I'd be willing to bet that it wouldn't really raise an eye brow to the general public, only the comic fans. And let's face it, you don't get the BO numbers of TDK and Iron Man when you cater to just comic fans.

What? your putting words in my mouth, im not talking about comic fans, wasnt a reapeating, mass audience??

Memnoch
10-13-2008, 07:36 AM
And I was saying maybe in your world it's a whole big to-do to everyone and their mother about who an actor sleeps with but in the grand scheme of things the general public could care less because they judge a flick based off the trailers and word of mouth. That's how you end up with TDK as the second highest grossing movie of all time and IM smashing the box office before that. People don't care about who an actor sleeps with.

toyreveewer
10-13-2008, 07:39 AM
And I was saying maybe in your world it's a whole big to-do to everyone and their mother about who an actor sleeps with but in the grand scheme of things the general public could care less because they judge a flick based off the trailers and word of mouth. That's how you end up with TDK as the second highest grossing movie of all time and IM smashing the box office before that. People don't care about who an actor sleeps with.

thats true, they dont care about what an actor sleeps with, if they arent gay. just face it, being gay isnt the only thing he has going against him if he takes the role, it is also the other facts, he just doesnt fit the picture all round imo.

Memnoch
10-13-2008, 07:41 AM
thats true, they dont care about what an actor sleeps with, if they arent gay. just face it, being gay isnt the only thing he has going against him if he takes the role, it is also the other facts, he just doesnt fit the picture all round imo.

Haha ya know, you're right. It's a dirty thing to be gay... when you're 14. Dude, get over yourself. Welcome to my ignore list.

toyreveewer
10-13-2008, 07:45 AM
Haha ya know, you're right. It's a dirty thing to be gay... when you're 14. Dude, get over yourself. Welcome to my ignore list.

you saying that i dont know anything because im 14?? god what the hell does that really have to do with anything, the guy is gay he doent ^^^^in look anything like him, god and u know what? i never said it was dirty to be gay, i never down played being gay at all, i said people wouldnt accept it. jesus ^^^^ing christ.

BXCOLLECTOR
10-13-2008, 07:46 AM
Gay is not the way

Adoptedscot
10-13-2008, 07:57 AM
you saying that i dont know anything because im 14?? god what the hell does that really have to do with anything, the guy is gay he doent ^^^^in look anything like him, god and u know what? i never said it was dirty to be gay, i never down played being gay at all, i said people wouldnt accept it. jesus ^^^^ing christ.
Calm down Toyreveweer.

Its one thing to have a rational civil and mature discussion or debate, its quite another to throw a silly tantrum.
Not on these boards buddy:nono

Memnoch
10-13-2008, 07:59 AM
Calm down Toyreveweer.

Its one thing to have a rational civil and mature discussion or debate, its quite another to throw a tantrum.
Not on these boards buddy:nono

:wave Hi Shell! Won't hear anymore from me, I've moderated myself :lol

toyreveewer
10-13-2008, 08:00 AM
Calm down Toyreveweer.

Its one thing to have a rational civil and mature discussion or debate, its quite another to throw a tantrum.
Not on these boards buddy:nono

look im trying to get a person to understand something and im really stressed beyond compehension right now, but im sorry if i came off that way.hes not right for the role, end of disscusion.

Adoptedscot
10-13-2008, 08:07 AM
look im trying to get a person to understand something and im really stressed beyond compehension right now, but im sorry if i came off that way.hes not right for the role, end of disscusion.
Theres no getting someone to understand that post, its full of bad language/insults and general hostility.

If you want to get a point across you might want to have a conversation, debate even but DO NOT resort to name calling or negativity even if you are stressed.

toyreveewer
10-13-2008, 08:09 AM
Theres no getting someone to understand that post, its full of bad language/insults and general hostility.

If you want to get a point across you might want to have a conversation, debate even but DO NOT resort to name calling or negativity even if you are stressed.

like i said im sorry, im fully aware of what i did, but its kind of hard to be reasonable when some jerk is taunting you with posts impliying your a moron.

Memnoch
10-13-2008, 08:12 AM
like i said im sorry, im fully aware of what i did, but its kind of hard to be reasonable when some jerk is taunting you with posts impliying your a moron.

I'd like you to point to a single post in which I've done this. The entire time I was merely saying that ruling someone out of a role because of their sexual orientation or something similar was ludicrous. If you wanted to debate it on looks alone or even talent that's fine and I would have been more than willing to go that way but personal life should never be a consideration.

toyreveewer
10-13-2008, 08:14 AM
I'd like you to point to a single post in which I've done this. The entire time I was merely saying that ruling someone out of a role because of their sexual orientation or something similar was ludicrous. If you wanted to debate it on looks alone or even talent that's fine and I would have been more than willing to go that way but personal life should never be a consideration.

nono not specificly u , there are jck asses in other threads really taunting me and pissing me off right now.but i will man up and appoligize because fighting like this, in a childsish way, is not the answer.

YoNoSe
10-13-2008, 08:22 AM
Completely off topic, Ian McKellen would like to high-five everyone in this thread. On his way to the bank.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/YoNoSe/im.jpg

toyreveewer
10-13-2008, 08:23 AM
Completely off topic, Ian McKellen would like to high-five everyone in this thread. On his way to the bank.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/YoNoSe/im.jpg

:lol :rotfl

Memnoch
10-13-2008, 08:24 AM
Completely off topic, Ian McKellen would like to high-five everyone in this thread. On his way to the bank.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/YoNoSe/im.jpg

Quite possibly the best post of the day. And now Im out for lunch.

Adoptedscot
10-13-2008, 08:26 AM
This ends now.

If I see one more crazy display of testosterone in this thread it will dissapear completely.

Do not resort to name calling, hostility or general negativity.

By all means have a discussion/debate and of course there are differing of opinions but grow up already.
An opinion can be put across politely and with civility, there is no need for all this.

If you want to argue, save it for the pm's

toyreveewer
10-13-2008, 08:29 AM
This ends now.

If I see one more crazy display of testosterone in this thread it will dissapear completely.

Do not resort to name calling, hostility or general negativity.

By all means have a discussion/debate and of course there are differing of opinions but grow up already.An opinion can be put across politely and with civility, their is no need for all this.

If you want to argue, save it for the pm's

aw no more fun!! :monkey2 :lol

Bodie The Cursed
10-13-2008, 10:00 AM
Someone needs some warm milk and a nap. (and a spelling course)


*drinks and takes a nap*

DarthNeil
10-13-2008, 12:06 PM
This is a thread to discuss the Captain America movie...

Move along please-- Nothing to see here.:duh

artistrex
10-13-2008, 11:33 PM
how is it most of these threads end up in some kind of pissing contest?

oh well.

I'm not sure who would make a good cap, but i think the old Cpatian America should have been first on the list of movies to be made, not just a filler movie to round out the AVENGERS

anyway until we see a new cap movie savor this for a while
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq2_YKQGE_U

DarthNeil
11-01-2008, 10:41 AM
Not really a thread to discuss this in (and I hate making threads for the little things) but if you are a fan of Cap then I suggest that you might like to check out Thor #11. There's a nice Hamletesque moment when the God of Thunder calls out "Avengers Assemble" on the one year anniversary of Cap's death (at his monument) and calls his spirit from the beyond...

jbinny
11-01-2008, 02:43 PM
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr289/jbinny85/Mike.jpg

mt24
11-03-2008, 02:29 AM
Have they decided on who's going to play Steve?

jbinny
11-03-2008, 09:52 AM
Have they decided on who's going to play Steve?

see post above yours...

MIKE O'HEARN

NIGHTCRAWLER
11-03-2008, 01:07 PM
so in Incredible Hulk at the end when Stark says something about how they put the super soldier program on ice, is that where Cap comes into play with the image of him under the snow thats on the DVD? sorry if this has been answered. I saw ther DVD again and just caught that line.

Sick Boy 82
11-03-2008, 01:13 PM
Yes, looks like Tony will be reviving Cap and the SS program. And from what I gather in the story, that's where Bruce's formula comes from, is the old SS program.

But Tony is already building Cap's shield in the movie, so..... I am kinda confused on this too!!

Please, can we have a Marvel guru explain this whole convaluted storyline out!! Thanks!!

The Mike
11-05-2008, 12:28 PM
:cracks knuckles:

The Tony Stark reference was to the fact that the SS Serum is in cryogenic freeze since according to comic continuity it was tested on a few subjects but only worked on Steve Rogers. The scene with the ice was supposed to be an easter egg for fans that was cut from the film because the beginning was changed. No one knows that Cap is up there yet, especially now that it was cut from the film because according to continuity he isn't unfrozen until the original Avengers stumble upon him while fight Namor. It is unclear whether or not the new film will contain Namor but it is clear that the entire first Cap film will be set in WWII and end with him being frozen to be unfrozen in The Avengers. Although since the acts of The Incredible Hulk obviously take place after Iron Man because how else would Ross make that joke, its possible that The Avengers film or at least the background of it takes place in between.

Tony Stark DOES build Cap an improved shield in the comics shortly after he is revived as he tries to improve it with nanotechnology and other things that will respond to Cap's thoughts as well as his actions. Cap uses it for a couple of missions and decides that good ol' vibranium, an alien metal found only in Wakanda that has unique vibration absorption properties, is enough and goes back to his Operation: Rebirth shield which is the shield given to him by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Mainly because the magnetic properties placed into throws off the balance of the shield when thrown and cramps his style.

So it is absolutely possible that Tony's shield is this "improved" shield that he creates that Steve will ultimately disregard. Also remember that the Cap Shield image was added for the film release and not in the theatrical shooting because it was never on set and was done as an easter egg to the fans to see if they'd notice. There are few more throughout both films.

jnmx2000
11-09-2008, 10:34 PM
so, it's been announced that the guy that directed the rocketeer and jurassic park 3 is directing the movie. not sure how I feel about this.

Batty
11-09-2008, 11:26 PM
Joe Johnson is an interesting choice. I love The Rocketeer.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i2a6531019c4147a6786eadbeb62ca209

The Boot
11-09-2008, 11:27 PM
so, it's been announced that the guy that directed the rocketeer and jurassic park 3 is directing the movie. not sure how I feel about this.

Joe Johnston may not be the sexiest choice, but if the script is sound (unlike JP3 and The Rocketeer), I'm sure he'll do a fine job. It's certainly not as intriguing as Favreau or Branagh were, but he's a pretty solid director-for-hire; A competent shooter with a (geektastic) background in FX and design.

Good enough for me.

Batty
11-09-2008, 11:28 PM
I agree. And he was a pretty big part of Star Wars.

tomandshell
11-10-2008, 01:05 PM
If the material is right, I think he can do a good job. I won't hold JPIII against him, as my big complaints there would be with the script, not the direction. He can handle effects films, family films (Rocketeer, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids and Jumanji) and more straight dramatic films as well. (I enjoyed October Sky and Hidalgo.) Let's also see how The Wolf Man turns out.

In the end, he's not a disastrous choice by any means, and if the script and cast is right then he could be a very good choice for this project as it plays to his strengths moreso than something like Hulk.

Besides--he did the final character design on Boba Fett and that's a big plus for me!

The Mike
11-10-2008, 06:10 PM
Captain America's Director Confuses Me Immensely
Posted at 10:06 AM Nov 10, 2008

When Marvel decided to make a Thor movie, it hunted high and low until it landed the immensely talented, Shakespearean actor/director Kenneth Branagh for the job. Branagh has skills, experience and the clout to make Thor, not the easiest superhero sell to the mainstream, an incredible success. So now Marvel has found a director for The First Avenger: Captain America, the heart and soul of the Avengers and Marvel's potentially biggest movie franchise, and...uh...they hired the guy who made Honey I Shrunk the Kids. From the Hollywood Reporter:

Joe Johnston has inked a deal to direct "First Avenger: Captain America," Marvel Studios' take on its classic comic book character. Marvel's Kevin Feige is producing. No writers are on board, but the studio, which is hearing pitches, expects to hire shortly.
...
"This is a guy who designed the vehicles for 'Star Wars,' who storyboarded the convoy action sequence for 'Raiders of the Lost Ark,' " Feige said. "From 'Rocketeer' to 'October Sky' to 'The Wolfman,' you can look at pieces of his movies and see how they lead to this one."

If you check out Johnston's IMDB page, he's directed only 9 movies in 20 years, none of them particularly great. He did direct The Rocketeer—and I assume that's how he got the Cap job—and he's currently making the new Wolf Man movie, but he also did Jurassic Park III and The Pagemaster. I don't know how anyone could look at his resume—particularly the same people who hired Branagh for Thor—and say, "Man, this guy has got to make Captain America!"

Darklord Dave
11-10-2008, 06:33 PM
It's not an inspired or obvious choice by any means - but neither was Favreau for Iron Man. It will depend mainly on the script, which hasn't been written yet.

NIGHTCRAWLER
11-10-2008, 06:37 PM
lets hope a good script is prepared for this one

The Mike
11-10-2008, 07:33 PM
Well we know the script will entail the creation of Captain America and WWII so that in itself should be great on screen from the get go.

jnmx2000
11-10-2008, 08:46 PM
the thing I liked about john for Iron man is that he was excited about it, he was all over the internet talking about how awesome he wanted to make the movie and how he cared how we felt about what he was doing. if joe puts forth the same effort, I think we'll have a really good movie.

Anzik
11-10-2008, 09:14 PM
Has O'Hearn been confirmed or is it still just rumored?

mt24
11-11-2008, 04:22 AM
So Mike O'hearn is going to play Steve? Is he an actor or an athlete?

Mad Old Lu
11-11-2008, 01:24 PM
Joe Johnston is a serviceable director, but I was hoping for someone who could go above and beyond. All his movies are okay. They're not offensive, they're not bad. They are just there. I think what bothers me most about his films is that they tend to lean towards being a little too soft or lite. All his action sequences are fairly exciting, but never quite reach the thrills of Spielberg (even at Spielberg's worst). They just miss the mark for me. I enjoyed the Rocketeer and October Sky, so I hope it can at least be as good as those, i.e. not eye-rolling-ly silly like FF.

And when it was announced that Jon Faverau would direct Iron Man, I knew he would do a great job based on Zathura. Zathura had a silly sentimental script, but the action sequences were genuinely exciting. I had seen in the extras that he was a big believer in practical effects and that he wanted to use CGI as sparingly as possible. I also thought the robot was beautifully constructed. I thought these ideas would benefit Iron Man perfectly.

Captain America doesn't have to be dark or depressing or moody to succeed. But it should be gutsy.

Rook
11-11-2008, 03:31 PM
The thing I like about this choice is that two of them (Rocketeer and October Sky) are very solid period pieces with outstanding set design. It gives me a bit of hope that we might actually see most, if not all, of this as a period piece set in the 1940s.

ridimous
11-11-2008, 09:14 PM
So Mike O'hearn is going to play Steve? Is he an actor or an athlete?

He's a gladiator.

The Mike
11-20-2008, 02:58 PM
'CAPTAIN AMERICA' SCRIPT MAY HAVE SCREENWRITING DUO
'Narnia' writing team in talks to adapt the first avenger for 'First Avenger'

By Steve Sunu
Posted 11/19/2008




According to HollywoodReporter.com, the "Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" writing duo of Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely are in negotiations to pen the script for "First Avenger: Captain America."

The negotiation apparently started about a week after Joe Johnston came on board as director. The movie is slated for a May 6, 2011 release.

jbinny
11-20-2008, 03:18 PM
He's a gladiator.

HE'S A MAN!!!!!!!

The Mike
12-30-2008, 07:44 PM
'The First Avenger: Captain America’ Roundup — Facts, Rumors, Casting And Plot Points
Published by Rick Marshall on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 at 2:44 pm.

With all the talk about the success of “The Dark Knight,” the bad-ass vibe of “X-Men Origins: Wolverine” and the legal troubles of “Watchmen,” it’s easy to forget that there’s another, even bigger slate of comics-savvy films hitting theaters down the road — not the least of which is the culmination of Marvel Studios’ glorious four-year plan: “The Avengers.” And just a few weeks before “The Avengers” hits theaters, the world will be introduced to the superteam’s eventual leader in “The First Avenger: Captain America.”

However, with no shortage of news, speculation and detective-like investigation surrounding “Captain America,” it can be hard to distinguish where the rumors end and the facts begin. To that end, UGO has posted an exhausting roundup of just about everything there is to know about the film (and a few things we’re still guessing about) — but that doesn’t mean they didn’t miss an item or two.

After the jump, we’ve offered up some additional context on the “Captain America” news roundup, based on our coverage of the much-anticipated film.

Under the heading of “Confirmed” facts about the film, UGO’s roundup reports that in “an exclusive comic book released with the Wal-Mart deluxe DVD version of Iron Man, Howard Stark created the technology for the shield, and Stark used a discarded prototype to help design the alloy used for his armor.”

This would seem to corroborate some of our own theories about Captain America’s origins and the role of Tony Stark’s father, Howard. Back in September, we even spoke to “Iron Man” writers Mark Fergus and Hawk Ostby about the connection between Howard Stark and Captain America, and they told us that the story of Tony’s dad was “too interesting to walk away from” in future films — among other hints about the character they shared with MTV.

It’s also worth noting that recent rumors have actor Tim Robbins pegged to play Howard Stark in “Iron Man 2.” Given Marvel’s propensity for cross-pollinating characters (and the actors who play them), even the decades that separate the settings of “Captain America” and “Iron Man 2” might not prevent us from seeing the same actor play Stark in both films — especially with such an accomplished actor as Robbins playing the role.

The Mike
04-27-2009, 06:56 PM
Interesting....


04.27.2009
Article by Zombiezeus
Matthew McConaggell--McConagoog--The Dude From 'Reign Of Fire' Likes Captain America

http://www.bamkapow.com/bk_images/2008/11/19/captain-america-gets-writers.jpg

The naked bongo-playing pot head southern charmer Matthew McConaughey has told MTV News that, despite saying he’d never heard of Cap last year, he might be up for playing Steve Rogers in the upcoming Marvel Studios epic.

"‘It sounds fun,’ McConaughey told MTV News, admitting that, so far, no script has come his way."

Yes, I’m sure it does sound fun to a guy who’s struggled in almost every serious leading man action role he’s had (’Sahara’, ‘U-571’, ‘Reign of Fire’) to consider a huge tentpole franchise project like this. It would be a great move for his career, but would it be great for the Captain America franchise?

First off, little Steve Rogers is a scrappy, scrawny kid from Brooklyn (a shout-out to many a golden age comic book creator who primarily came from the same place), not a hunky, tanned Southern shot of sassafras with unusually short arms (seriously, google it–the dude has T-Rex arms. So does Natalie Portman, but c’mon, it’s NATALIE PORTMAN .).

Secondly, this is a romantic comedy guy, not an action guy. Can we really take him seriously as America’s first and greatest superhero (y’know, in the Marvel U) when in the back of our minds we keep remembering that horrible, chilly feeling we felt when we agreed to watch "How To Lose A Guy In 10 Days" with our girlfriends in the hopes of reciprication and slowly realized that nothing could ever make up for watching "How To Lose A Guy In 10 Days"?

Thirdly–isn’t he a little old? I know, how "Hollywood" of me. But seriously, if they’re going to build this character from the ground up, they need to land someone who can run the gamut from late teens/early 20’s into his early thirties, and McConaboobie looks solidly and resolutely in his mid-30’s. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, I’m just saying.

Who else could play Cap? Beats me. I didn’t mind the suggestion of Leonardo DiCaprio that had been floating around, but I doubt he’d do it. Channing "Step Up/G.I. Joe" Tatum has been mentioned, and I hope to every god imaginable that that does not happen. I’d rather see John Cena do it than anyone who has been on film DANCING AGGRESSIVELY AT SOMEONE ELSE.

C’mon, Hollywood. Captain America deserves respect. Cast someone who deserves it.

Read the rest of what they have to say over at MTV here: LINK (http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/04/27/matthew-mcconaughey-warming-up-to-captain-america-role/) .

Darth Snoopy
04-27-2009, 07:08 PM
http://www.bamkapow.com/bk_images/2008/11/19/captain-america-gets-writers.jpg


C’mon, Hollywood. Captain America deserves respect. Cast someone who deserves it.

That says it all for me. Thanks for the post, Mike. :D

Agent0028
04-27-2009, 07:12 PM
I don't see him as Cap either.

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-11-2009, 09:26 PM
well since this seemed to be a hot topic in the Iron Man 2 thread I started its own thread, here we discuss casting desiscions (however you spell it), storyline, etc. anything with the film.

http://angryweb.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/marvellogos2.jpg


my choice

want Colin as Cap, but if he can fake a german accents as well as he can american I'd be down with red skull played by Farell so, Farrel top pick for Cap, second for Red,
http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/02/07/1202438334_8352/539w.jpg

2 and 3rd caps
are Brad Pitt and Leonardo Dicaprio

The Mike
08-11-2009, 09:29 PM
Funny. Someone already beat you to it.

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33772&highlight=Avenger

Agent0028
08-11-2009, 09:31 PM
:mwaha
I guess your sig really is appropriate...

The Mike
08-11-2009, 09:31 PM
I still say Alexander Skarsgard would do an awesome job but since they want big International my support goes to DiCaprio. If directed right he could really bang it out. He was almost Spidey....

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-11-2009, 09:32 PM
:monkey2
Funny. Someone already beat you to it.

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33772&highlight=Avenger

....Oh my GOD....its mike.....the thunder stealer....probably still thors thunder if he were real :monkey2

karamazov80
08-11-2009, 09:32 PM
Honestly, I think the guy who plays Duke in the new Joe movie could make a decent Cap. :monkey3

The Mike
08-11-2009, 09:35 PM
Psssh. Thor's Thunder. I got something better than Thor's Thunder.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/SecretagentHerbert/ironman-64-1415.gif

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-11-2009, 09:35 PM
Honestly, I think the guy who plays Duke in the new Joe movie could make a decent Cap. :monkey3

SLAP SLAP SLAP SLAP YOUR FACE! jk, he said he was interested (his names Channing Tatum) except he heard Will Smith got the role Im sure Mike somehow beat me to this answer though :monkey2 nevermind yesssss! I WIN!

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-11-2009, 09:36 PM
Psssh. Thor's Thunder. I got something better than Thor's Thunder.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/SecretagentHerbert/ironman-64-1415.gif

I do have to admit it, that part was especially bad @$$

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-11-2009, 09:40 PM
one more thing...you're not reporting my post...are you?! no im fine with out someone needs to take this thread down now anway

cedric72
08-11-2009, 09:40 PM
I heard Australian actor Chris Hemsworth got the part to play the Captain. He played Jim Kirk's father at the beginning of Star Trek.

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-11-2009, 09:40 PM
I heard Australian actor Chris Hemsworth got the part to play the Captain. He played Jim Kirk's father at the beginning of Star Trek.

no he's thor

jinxx
08-11-2009, 09:43 PM
one more thing...you're not reporting my post...are you?! no im fine with out someone needs to take this thread down now anway

I reported you!:wacky.......eh, DiFabio!?...TwoFace!!!!?...LEADERCOBRA!!????:devil

cedric72
08-11-2009, 09:43 PM
Sorry. I knew he was playing some big Marvel hero.

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-11-2009, 09:44 PM
I reported you!:wacky.......eh, DiFabio!?...TwoFace!!!!?...LEADERCOBRA!!????:devil

ummmm once again, not difabio, twoface or leadercobra, dunno whats youre talking about

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-11-2009, 09:45 PM
Sorry. I knew he was playing some big Marvel hero.

yep its thor! haha I think its an odd choice but ya know, I thought that about heath ledger as joker

cedric72
08-11-2009, 09:49 PM
Yeh, I think Chris could be a decent Thor. Needs to work out a little though, he seems a bit lean for the part.:rolleyes:

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-11-2009, 09:52 PM
Yeh, I think Chris could be a decent Thor. Needs to work out a little though, he seems a bit lean for the part.:rolleyes:

yea he does! haah but you know thats fine if he's commited he could get the shape

FQRizzo
08-12-2009, 09:05 AM
Psssh. Thor's Thunder. I got something better than Thor's Thunder.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/SecretagentHerbert/ironman-64-1415.gif

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1060/1399416002_2ddb07df73.jpg?v=0

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-12-2009, 09:08 AM
:wacky:joy
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1060/1399416002_2ddb07df73.jpg?v=0

:wacky:joy:wacky:joy:wacky:joy:lol yesssssssssssssssss

DarthNeil
08-12-2009, 01:37 PM
In terms of Captain America casting-- I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you want it done right get a Canadian... Ryan Gosling.

Why?

1) We know that he can act.

- Half Nelson where he plays a crack-addicted public school teacher...

http://mootpoint.wrenkin.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/gosling.jpg

2) Right age.

- He's turning 29 this year. (Born: November 12, 1980)

3) He can bulk up without looking steroid induced.

http://thebosh.com/upload/2008/09/03/ryan_gosling_and_rachel_mcadams_enjoy_a_pda_filled _romantic_breakfast/Ryan-Gosling.jpg

Just my two cents.

jnmx2000
08-12-2009, 04:03 PM
In terms of Captain America casting-- I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you want it done right get a Canadian... Ryan Gosling.

Why?

1) We know that he can act.

- Half Nelson where he plays a crack-addicted public school teacher...

http://mootpoint.wrenkin.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/gosling.jpg

2) Right age.

- He's turning 29 this year. (Born: November 12, 1980)

3) He can bulk up without looking steroid induced.

http://thebosh.com/upload/2008/09/03/ryan_gosling_and_rachel_mcadams_enjoy_a_pda_filled _romantic_breakfast/Ryan-Gosling.jpg

Just my two cents.


great choice, never thought about him.

karamazov80
08-12-2009, 04:10 PM
Psssh. Thor's Thunder. I got something better than Thor's Thunder.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa57/SecretagentHerbert/ironman-64-1415.gif
Well, if Alan Davis says it, then it is true in my book.

As for Gosling, isn't Cap, y'know, sort of supposed to look like he has steroids? Super Soldier Serum and all?

DarthNeil
08-12-2009, 04:46 PM
Well, if Alan Davis says it, then it is true in my book.

As for Gosling, isn't Cap, y'know, sort of supposed to look like he has steroids? Super Soldier Serum and all?

http://fast1.onesite.com/fans.wwe.com/user/missfrenchie/john_cena.jpg

Or equivalent facimile vs. an Oscar nominee-- Who would you like to see square off with RDJ on the big screen?...

:D

karamazov80
08-12-2009, 04:51 PM
Point taken :D Personally, if I had the choice between acting and "source-accurate" looks, I will take acting any day. And not "pro wrestling"-level acting. Truth to be told, I would be fine with the Gosling choice, but I don't see a studio going for it, as he doesn't scream "Captain America" to me at all.

Agent0028
08-12-2009, 04:54 PM
He doesn't seem very Cap-like to me either. But I definitely want a good actor over someone who looks good.

DarthNeil
08-12-2009, 05:30 PM
A good actor can become anything or anyone-- a true chameleon... Heath Ledger as exhibit "A"... I think Gosling would do a great job. I shudder at most of the other possible choices... This guy held his own on screen with Sir Anthony Hopkins remember--

But I guess the truth will be revealed soon enough. I just hope it won't be Wooderson.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb52/The_Playlist/mconaugheydazed.jpg

Agent0028
08-12-2009, 06:31 PM
Well, I'll be the first one to admit that I suck when commenting on who would be good or bad for a part. I didn't think Ledger or RDJ would do well in their roles and I was about as wrong as anyone could possibly be. :lol

jnmx2000
08-12-2009, 06:37 PM
A good actor can become anything or anyone-- a true chameleon... Heath Ledger as exhibit "A"... I think Gosling would do a great job. I shudder at most of the other possible choices... This guy held his own on screen with Sir Anthony Hopkins remember--

But I guess the truth will be revealed soon enough. I just hope it won't be Wooderson.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb52/The_Playlist/mconaugheydazed.jpg

ugh, I shutter at that. no way he could be CAP. he fights with a shield, not a surf board.

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-12-2009, 06:57 PM
ugh, I shutter at that. no way he could be CAP. he fights with a shield, not a surf board.

yea, plus surfman has little arms...and I mean little!

http://fasthugs.typepad.com/blog/images/matthew_mcconaughey.jpg

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-12-2009, 07:34 PM
one more thing Jensen Ackles, is believed to be in the film as cap

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010075/

rumored yes but the first actor to have the movie put under his name as such...kind of an unheard of in my book and Mike said the director wanted somebody with global fame (some ish like that) just keeping you updated

dudu
08-12-2009, 09:09 PM
Vin Diesel as Captain America? Are you crazy?? In no way, shape or form should he be Captain America. That would be a disgrace. Sorry, but that's the way I feel.

Vin Diesel can be one of Ninja Turtles :lol but not Cap.

Lord Aykroyd
08-12-2009, 09:16 PM
one more thing Jensen Ackles, is believed to be in the film as cap

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010075/

rumored yes but the first actor to have the movie put under his name as such...kind of an unheard of in my book and Mike said the director wanted somebody with global fame (some ish like that) just keeping you updated

He'd be fantastic - really good actor.

The Mike
08-12-2009, 09:53 PM
one more thing Jensen Ackles, is believed to be in the film as cap

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0010075/

rumored yes but the first actor to have the movie put under his name as such...kind of an unheard of in my book and Mike said the director wanted somebody with global fame (some ish like that) just keeping you updated

Not the director Kevin Feige, the President of Marvel Studios. Although how much pull he has or whether he was just trying to throw us all of is really questionable. I wouldn't be surprised if an actor who is semi-popular like Ackles gets casted because he looks the part and can obviously pull off the different genres.

The Mike
08-12-2009, 10:04 PM
Someone posted this crude mock up.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10300/145yh.bmp

It should be noted that the Jensen Ackles rumors date back to June 2008

yodasan
08-15-2009, 11:21 PM
Will HT make a 1/6 version of whoever ends up playing Cap in the movie?

Agent0028
08-16-2009, 08:24 AM
I hope so. And I hope they do it in the WWII costume. That's the one I'll be most likely to get.

The Mike
08-16-2009, 01:26 PM
Its a lock really that any major Avenger will get a figure from HT. What is interesting is that in TFA:CA he'll be in WWII uniform and gets frozen that way (unless they changed it from the original treatment) and in The Avengers he'll get an updated modern uniform so we should be in for at least two.

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-16-2009, 01:51 PM
Its a lock really that any major Avenger will get a figure from HT. What is interesting is that in TFA:CA he'll be in WWII uniform and gets frozen that way (unless they changed it from the original treatment) and in The Avengers he'll get an updated modern uniform so we should be in for at least two.

as we all know Hot Toys milks the *censored* out that multiple costume ish so ofcourse we'll have two

Dirk
08-16-2009, 02:24 PM
Aw dam it....Dean for Cap. America....If this come to be true i'll be really disgust and will not see the movie....
Come on Marvel....there are lot of good actors who could pull this part....
Matthew McConaughey would be the right choice. Has anyone seen Reign of Fire? That would be a m#therf#[email protected] Cap. just like the Ultimate vers.
Alexander Skarsgård would be another great name. His Sgt. Brad 'Iceman' Colbert in Generation Kill is another great "preview" of a great Cap.
So, PLEASE forget about Dean....

wHySoSeRiOuS203
08-16-2009, 02:29 PM
Aw dam it....Dean for Cap. America....If this come to be true i'll be really disgust and will not see the movie....
Come on Marvel....there are lot of good actors who could pull this part....
Matthew McConaughey would be the right choice. Has anyone seen Reign of Fire? That would be a m#therf#[email protected] Cap. just like the Ultimate vers.
Alexander Skarsgård would be another great name. His Sgt. Brad 'Iceman' Colbert in Generation Kill is another great "preview" of a great Cap.
So, PLEASE forget about Dean....

saw reign of fire and I still dont want mcconaughey in this movie