Will the new indy have anti-communist propaganda?

[8th wonder]

Communism is a failed system that cost millions of lives. On the other hand the world is not black and white. I'm really looking forward to the new indy. On the other hand i'm affraid of communists as villains since it could easily become way to patriotic. I hope this film will stay away from to much flag-waving, wich i as a non-american can't really buy. On the other hand indy was never portrayed as a patriotic kind of guy more a world-wise guy.

any thoughts?

[TheObsoleteMan]

I just wanna see Indy beating up commie pinkos whilst I munch on my huge tub of popcorn.

[IrishJedi]

You're worried about Steven Spielberg making a jingoistic film?

:lol

Seriously, this is a non-issue. Put your fears of American "flag-waving" at ease. This flick will be all about the adventure and will feature little, if any, politics. And that's the way it should be.

[DarthNeil]

It's not MICHAEL BAY's INDIANA JONES... Then there'd be a slow motion 360 with an American flag blowing behind Indy as he rises-- ready to drop kick some commies into the pits of hell like he just snorted coke off some prostitue's belly-- I did say it was a Michael Bay scenario right?:rolleyes:

[8th wonder]

It's not MICHAEL BAY's INDIANA JONES... Then there'd be a slow motion 360 with an American flag blowing behind Indy as he rises-- ready to drop kick some commies into the pits of hell like he just snorted coke off some prostitue's belly-- I did say it was a Michael Bay scenario right?:rolleyes:

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl


Yeah you people are right indy will never be about that:cool:

[Agent0028]

I don't think it will be a problem either. Indy was never really a flag waver. And if it does have an anti-communist slant it'll focus more on the negative traits that were mentioned in the original post.

[Darth Rage]

C'mon, Hitler signed Indy's father's book in Last Crusade.

[Bardoon]

I'm sure you'll hear complaints from Russian & China saying how this depicts Communism in a bad light. :monkey1

They probably won't have the movie shown over there.

[TheObsoleteMan]

Yeah, I seriously doubt there'll be any flag waving, overtly patriotic messages seeing as how the foreign market makes up a big portion of the earnings for these types of blockbuster movies.

[galactiboy]

Yeah, I think Indy is popular enough w/o having to use hyper-patriotism bring in the Nascar crowd :lol

[tomandshell]

Compare the treatment of Nazis in Raiders to that in Schindler's list--the Indy movies are just for fun. Spielberg has shown that he can make political statments in his films, but he just got some of that out of his system with Munich and I'm not expecting much in Indy IV.

[Prime Clone]

"Communists - I hate those guys!" http://raven.theraider.net/images/smilies/whip.gif

[8th wonder]

"Communists - I hate those guys!" http://raven.theraider.net/images/smilies/whip.gif

Doubt it, you can't compare them to nazis! They even helped defeat the nazis. Not that Stalin, Mao etc.. weren't as bad as Hitler.

[King Darkness]

It's not MICHAEL BAY's INDIANA JONES... Then there'd be a slow motion 360 with an American flag blowing behind Indy as he rises-- ready to drop kick some commies into the pits of hell like he just snorted coke off some prostitue's belly-- I did say it was a Michael Bay scenario right?:rolleyes:

Damn,thats sounds awesome!!!

Especially snorting the coke off of the whores belly:rock

[Masao]

Doubt it, you can't compare them to nazis! They even helped defeat the nazis. Not that Stalin, Mao etc.. weren't as bad as Hitler.

Well, considering that the best estimates of massacred civilians are between 6 and 10 times (for the USSR alone) that of the Nazis, I would have to say "worse" is an understatement.

"Anti-communist propaganda" is an oxymoron.

Let's not forget that one of the reasons the show got cancelled was its anti socialism position.

It would be refreshing to have an anti-communist position come out of Hollywood for a change.

Talk about a snowball's chance...

LOL

[IrishJedi]

There is already a lot more politics in this thread than there will be in the movie.

[galactiboy]

There is already a lot more politics in this thread than there will be in the movie.

:rotfl:rotfl:lol Maybe its time this was put in the Sandbox... might start to stink before too long.

[tylerd]

spielberg and lucas made the nazis look like bufoons, almost comical in the raiders films. and unless the new movie is set in the 50s, when the 'better dead than red' communist attitude was popular, we should see some more nazi bashing. :D

[Blackhole]

Behind the Nazis, Communists are the best choice for villains (at least ones that actually have existed...The Empire FTW!)

[IrishJedi]

spielberg and lucas made the nazis look like bufoons, almost comical in the raiders films. and unless the new movie is set in the 50s, when the 'better dead than red' communist attitude was popular, we should see some more nazi bashing. :D

The movie is set in 1957.

[tylerd]

The movie is set in 1957.

then it's indy vs. the commies. excellent. :D

[8th wonder]

Well, considering that the best estimates of massacred civilians are between 6 and 10 times (for the USSR alone) that of the Nazis, I would have to say "worse" is an understatement.

"Anti-communist propaganda" is an oxymoron.

Let's not forget that one of the reasons the show got cancelled was its anti socialism position.

It would be refreshing to have an anti-communist position come out of Hollywood for a change.

Talk about a snowball's chance...

LOL

Regardless of brutal regimes and leaders i think the tenets of marxism are a bit more humane and sane than nazi ideology. Not to mention that capitalism has it's own bloody crimes.

I'm sorry i made this thread, it was about not wanting a flag-waving indy that's all, not a political debate.

[devilof76]

Regardless of brutal regimes and leaders i think the tenets of marxism are a bit more humane and sane than nazi ideology. Not to mention that capitalism has it's own bloody crimes.

And which crimes are those exactly? I realize you don't see the world as "black & white" but could you give us some black & white facts about the atrocities of capitalism that are as black & white as the body count that Karl Marx's 'humane' philosophy inspired?

[IrishJedi]

Mola Ram does not approve of political discussion on these boards:

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[devilof76]

Mola Ram does not approve of political discussion on these boards:

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He started it. :monkey4

[Captain Britain]

How could anyone be pro-communism? It'd be like saying you were pro-Nazi.

My main concern is that Indy 4 will be in some way softer on the Reds than Raiders and LC were on the Nazis.

[8th wonder]

And which crimes are those exactly? I realize you don't see the world as "black & white" but could you give us some black & white facts about the atrocities of capitalism that are as black & white as the body count that Karl Marx's 'humane' philosophy inspired?


1 Exploitation of third world countries.
2 Extreme division between rich and poor wich led to marxism in the first place:rotfl.
3 Because it creates a class society it stimulates crime and greed instead of morality, Vietnam, Irak....paranoia...oil...paranoia...oil.....
4 capitalism is associated with imperialism, colonialism, fascism.
5 Because of the unlimited greed of industrial capitalism and pollution that causes the earth is pretty much screwed (china isn't communist).

[King Darkness]

Well if there is no political crapola in the film, I hope we at least get Indy snorting coke of the belly of a whore.

Maybe a communist whore :naughty

[8th wonder]

How could anyone be pro-communism? It'd be like saying you were pro-Nazi.

My main concern is that Indy 4 will be in some way softer on the Reds than Raiders and LC were on the Nazis.

Yeah right:rotfl. Marxism as a concept is not all that bad. There never really was a real marxist country to begin with.

Marxism basic tenet: No class-society and equality for all.
Nazism basic tenet: superiority of the arian race hence extermination or enslavement of other races.

big difference!!!

[IrishJedi]

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[TheObsoleteMan]

Hearts! Get yer red hot hearts! Red hot hearts here!


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[King Darkness]

Do I have to be "pro communist" if I want to see Indy snorting coke of a communist whore? Cause if so, you can consider me pro communist:rock

[TheObsoleteMan]

Do I have to be "pro communist" if I want to see Indy snorting coke of a communist whore? Cause if so, you can consider me pro communist:rock

Nah, I'd say you have more of a pro whore stance.

[King Darkness]

:rock :rock :rock :rock :rock

King loves him some whores:monkey5

[IrishJedi]

Pro-Whore = :rock

Political debates on geek message boards = :blissysmi

[8th wonder]

Do I have to be "pro communist" if I want to see Indy snorting coke of a communist whore? Cause if so, you can consider me pro communist:rock

I think you better watch that in-the-closet-homosexual James Bond for that.

[IrishJedi]

Kali grows angry...

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[King Darkness]

Pro-Whore = :rock

Political debates on geek message boards = :blissysmi
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:rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock

[8th wonder]

Kali grows angry...

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Kali is an attention whore, everybody knows that.

[devilof76]

Kali is an attention whore, everybody knows that.

It's because she's so pretty.

[Agent0028]

Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Attention Whores.

[Bardoon]

I can't wait till they rewrite the history books again to say that Indiana Jones single-handedly defeated Communism much like he defeated the Nazis.

World War II was won by Indy. :monkey1

[galactiboy]

Did I miss the part where we do coke off a commie whore's ass? I hope I'm not too late?!?

[Bannister]

Did I miss the part where we do coke off a commie whore's ass? I hope I'm not too late?!?

It's never too late to do coke off the body parts of whores.

[King Darkness]

:rock :rock :rock :rock

This thread took a turn to awesome town!!

[zoid2323]

Did I miss the part where we do coke off a commie whore's ass? I hope I'm not too late?!?

Coke & whores nice thread!!:naughty:wacky:naughty

[Captain Britain]

There's an attention-seeking whore in the movie? I didn't know Kate Capshaw was in it.