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Lookin4Precious
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This has been coming for a couple years now.. they've been talking about it forever so i guess it makes sense that they are doing it now.
I don't know... I REALLY don't know if this is going to catch on. I mean... the jump from VHS to DVD was MONUMENTAL. It completly changed the at home movie experience. With these new formats, nothing is all that revolutionary to the casual movie watcher. The image is supposedly sharper, better sound quality... which is great.. but they will no longer play on a regular DVD player. You woul have to buy a new one. And for those who have DVD collections that number far into the hundreds (which are usually the people that care about better image quality and sound quality) i don't know how prepared i will be to jump ship.
However, if companies just STOP producing regular format DVDs i guess they will leave us with no choice....
We'll see.. i've just always viewed these new formats with skepticism and i think their existence will be short lived....
I don't know... I REALLY don't know if this is going to catch on. I mean... the jump from VHS to DVD was MONUMENTAL. It completly changed the at home movie experience. With these new formats, nothing is all that revolutionary to the casual movie watcher. The image is supposedly sharper, better sound quality... which is great.. but they will no longer play on a regular DVD player. You woul have to buy a new one. And for those who have DVD collections that number far into the hundreds (which are usually the people that care about better image quality and sound quality) i don't know how prepared i will be to jump ship.
However, if companies just STOP producing regular format DVDs i guess they will leave us with no choice....
We'll see.. i've just always viewed these new formats with skepticism and i think their existence will be short lived....
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Winged Shadows
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Greater capacity can only be a better thing, especially in the games industry with developers asking for more room to play with. I'd rather have the ability to watch multiple movies on one 'next-gen' DVD than have to have masses of standard DVDs lying around.
I think once these hit our shelves, and we see first hand what this technology is capable of we'll all be sold. Technogology just doesn't stay still. Back in '95 my dad spent a bomb (around $2000?) on my state of the art PC - a 70hz, 386 running Win 3.1, 512kb of ram, and 64 mb hard disk space!
How things have progressed...
I think once these hit our shelves, and we see first hand what this technology is capable of we'll all be sold. Technogology just doesn't stay still. Back in '95 my dad spent a bomb (around $2000?) on my state of the art PC - a 70hz, 386 running Win 3.1, 512kb of ram, and 64 mb hard disk space!
How things have progressed...
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TolkienCollector
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True, but a single format would be even better
oke oke TC :bonk :eye :bonk
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Winged Shadows
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Yeah, but there's a LOT of money to be made. And Sony ain't gonna want a repeat of losing out to Toshiba .. yet again.
I think i'll wait to see which one takes off better, and has more backing...but even if it does stay split...I will just wait til they produce combination drives that'll play/write either format.
I think i'll wait to see which one takes off better, and has more backing...but even if it does stay split...I will just wait til they produce combination drives that'll play/write either format.
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Azog of Moria
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Yep best sit back and see what makes it through the storm...
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dstephan
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The industry knows that most people are going to wait and see who wins the format war. Personally I hope it's Blu-ray, but I'm not about to buy a player that half the software won't play on.
Somebody better give in quick before they spend billions of dollars setting up for the wrong format.
Somebody better give in quick before they spend billions of dollars setting up for the wrong format.
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FrankenFan
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Is it that time again, already? Anyone else other than me old enough to remember agonizing over VHS vs. Beta?
Ah, those were the days...
Edit: Oops... didn't notice that TC already made the comparison! That answers that question! :bonk
Ah, those were the days...
Edit: Oops... didn't notice that TC already made the comparison! That answers that question! :bonk
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Viking28
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Ahhh Laser discs!!!!!!!!!
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jesseawilson
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It's hard to fight against all potential PS3 sales which will put high quality Hi-Def Blue-Ray players in alot of homes.
Unified DVD dead - report
Correspondents in Tokyo
AUGUST 23, 2005
GROUPS pushing competing technologies for next-generation DVDs have given up developing a unified format.
For three years, the two groups, headed by Toshiba and Sony, have pushed to have their respective technology standards adopted to gain dominance in the multibillion-dollar markets for DVD players, PC drives and optical discs.
Toshiba, along with NEC and Sanyo, has been promoting HD DVD, while Sony and Matsushita, the maker of Panasonic brand products, have been developing a technology known as Blu-ray.
The two groups have held negotiations on unifying their formats to persuade consumers to shift to advanced discs and to promote growth in the industry.
But negotiations fell through as neither side yielded, and time ran out to develop a format before the launch of new products from both groups, Japan's Yomiuri newspaper has reported.
"Late August is the practical time limit (to unify formats)," Yoshihide Fujii, Toshiba's corporate senior vice president, was quoted as saying in the paper.
A Toshiba spokeswoman said Mr Fujii meant that the company needed to start developing software by late August for its HD DVD-based players, scheduled for release at the end of 2005.
A Sony spokesman said it has become harder to unify formats after failing to reach an agreement in negotiations in May.
Both officials agreed, however, that a unified format is still a possibility. They said a single format would be the best way, and added they would release their products as scheduled.
Sony plans to put a Blu-ray disc drive in its new PlayStation game console next year.
Sony's Blu-ray technology is also backed by Dell and Samsung.
At the core of both formats are blue lasers, which have a shorter wavelength than red lasers used in current DVD equipment, allowing discs to store data at higher densities needed for high-definition movies and television.
Toshiba's then president, Tadashi Okamura, had said in May producers of next-generation optical discs would eventually use one format, although products based on the two competing standards may be around for a limited time.
Unified DVD dead - report
Correspondents in Tokyo
AUGUST 23, 2005
GROUPS pushing competing technologies for next-generation DVDs have given up developing a unified format.
For three years, the two groups, headed by Toshiba and Sony, have pushed to have their respective technology standards adopted to gain dominance in the multibillion-dollar markets for DVD players, PC drives and optical discs.
Toshiba, along with NEC and Sanyo, has been promoting HD DVD, while Sony and Matsushita, the maker of Panasonic brand products, have been developing a technology known as Blu-ray.
The two groups have held negotiations on unifying their formats to persuade consumers to shift to advanced discs and to promote growth in the industry.
But negotiations fell through as neither side yielded, and time ran out to develop a format before the launch of new products from both groups, Japan's Yomiuri newspaper has reported.
"Late August is the practical time limit (to unify formats)," Yoshihide Fujii, Toshiba's corporate senior vice president, was quoted as saying in the paper.
A Toshiba spokeswoman said Mr Fujii meant that the company needed to start developing software by late August for its HD DVD-based players, scheduled for release at the end of 2005.
A Sony spokesman said it has become harder to unify formats after failing to reach an agreement in negotiations in May.
Both officials agreed, however, that a unified format is still a possibility. They said a single format would be the best way, and added they would release their products as scheduled.
Sony plans to put a Blu-ray disc drive in its new PlayStation game console next year.
Sony's Blu-ray technology is also backed by Dell and Samsung.
At the core of both formats are blue lasers, which have a shorter wavelength than red lasers used in current DVD equipment, allowing discs to store data at higher densities needed for high-definition movies and television.
Toshiba's then president, Tadashi Okamura, had said in May producers of next-generation optical discs would eventually use one format, although products based on the two competing standards may be around for a limited time.
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creecher
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About ten or so years ago they were already recording information on a cube the size of a sugar cube. They can already record information on molecules. They are just setting us up. I see alot of misplaced cubes being a problem, gawd help us when your trying to find your molecules.
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gooball
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lol, creech .
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Masaoken
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Re: The future of DVD...obsolescence
To tell the the truth, DVD has been obsolete since 2001!
Blu-ray has been used in Japan for a while now. Which is funny, because it was developed here.
The original version of Blu-ray was even greater capacity than the current versions of both Blu-ray and HD-DVD.
Imagine all 20 James Bond films on two discs, or all of Lotr (extended Ed -12 discs) on two discs.
That would have killed the DVD industry overnight. Which is why you have only just heard about them here in the U.S. It is also the reason you will not hear about the next gen format for years yet either.
To tell the the truth, DVD has been obsolete since 2001!
Blu-ray has been used in Japan for a while now. Which is funny, because it was developed here.
The original version of Blu-ray was even greater capacity than the current versions of both Blu-ray and HD-DVD.
Imagine all 20 James Bond films on two discs, or all of Lotr (extended Ed -12 discs) on two discs.
That would have killed the DVD industry overnight. Which is why you have only just heard about them here in the U.S. It is also the reason you will not hear about the next gen format for years yet either.
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ironman1188
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Re: The future of DVD...obsolescence
:cry I still have all of those. AND my RCA Selectivision collection!! :bang
:cry I still have all of those. AND my RCA Selectivision collection!! :bang
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https://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2142909/sony-defends-blu-ray-dvd
Everyone hold ya breath
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https://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2142909/sony-defends-blu-ray-dvd
Everyone hold ya breath
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Migwit
Imbued with Mad Skills
Stupid DVD's
OK, so someone bottom-line this for me, if you would:
Will or won't these new dvd formats play on the umpteen million dvd players that people already own, or will the entire country have to bend over and take it up the wazoo and be forced to buy yet another piece of electronic equipment to sustain these huge corporations? (Sorry, long day at work, I'm a little grumpy.)
If these two new formats will play on my current dvd player, I don't give a rat's ass which one wins the fight. But if I have to buy another dvd player in order to purchase dvds in EITHER format, I guess I'll have to stop buying dvd's and just be happy with the ones I have, 'cuz I got NO place and NO money for more players.
OK, so someone bottom-line this for me, if you would:
Will or won't these new dvd formats play on the umpteen million dvd players that people already own, or will the entire country have to bend over and take it up the wazoo and be forced to buy yet another piece of electronic equipment to sustain these huge corporations? (Sorry, long day at work, I'm a little grumpy.)
If these two new formats will play on my current dvd player, I don't give a rat's ass which one wins the fight. But if I have to buy another dvd player in order to purchase dvds in EITHER format, I guess I'll have to stop buying dvd's and just be happy with the ones I have, 'cuz I got NO place and NO money for more players.
Sorry Migwit, please don't be mad at me...
But you can't play neither HD-DVD nor Blu-Ray on your "old" DVD-player.
New technology requires new players that can read all of the information
a BR, HD-disk contains. The good thing is that you may well play your old
(regular) DVD's on the new player...
One thing I'm not sure of; If you may get one player that understands both formats, or if you need two players - one Blu-Ray-player and one HD-DVD-player
But you can't play neither HD-DVD nor Blu-Ray on your "old" DVD-player.
New technology requires new players that can read all of the information
a BR, HD-disk contains. The good thing is that you may well play your old
(regular) DVD's on the new player...
One thing I'm not sure of; If you may get one player that understands both formats, or if you need two players - one Blu-Ray-player and one HD-DVD-player
Migwit
Imbued with Mad Skills
That's it, then
Ah, Pordey2, you're not the one I want to take a swing at!
I very much appreciate the clarification, I will learn to get as many dvds I want in the "old" format for as long as they're available and live without the new technology, because it really pisses me off that this is happening and I'm just in that kind of mood to say to hell with Microsoft, Intel, Toshiba, Sony, and the rest of their ilk who are creating this monopoly. Or diopoly, or bi-opoly, whatever, trying to make us buy their new stuff to replace our still-new stuff just to watch a movie on dvd. (I know, I know, the pictures will be just SO much prettier, right?)
What a rip off. Glad I have enough dvds to keep me company for years to come! I'll have to find some friends who don't mind spending THEIR hard earned dollars on this new technology so I can watch these miraculous new dvd formats.
Ah, Pordey2, you're not the one I want to take a swing at!
I very much appreciate the clarification, I will learn to get as many dvds I want in the "old" format for as long as they're available and live without the new technology, because it really pisses me off that this is happening and I'm just in that kind of mood to say to hell with Microsoft, Intel, Toshiba, Sony, and the rest of their ilk who are creating this monopoly. Or diopoly, or bi-opoly, whatever, trying to make us buy their new stuff to replace our still-new stuff just to watch a movie on dvd. (I know, I know, the pictures will be just SO much prettier, right?)What a rip off.
Glad I have enough dvds to keep me company for years to come! I'll have to find some friends who don't mind spending THEIR hard earned dollars on this new technology so I can watch these miraculous new dvd formats.
One of Nine
Nuke it from Orbit
You will know what format is the winner when you start seeing the Porn industry use it. Hey thats how VHS beat out Beta max!
Hey thats how VHS beat out Beta max!Ah, the porn... Seems like the porn rules the world...
For me, the DVD is still good enough in quality, don't really understand what
the difference will be if you only got an 28" TV or something. But hey, that's
what many said when the DVD-player was introduced many years ago...
Will stay neutral about this till I see how much prettier the pictures get
The best thing about all this that we might get EEE's of FOTR, TTT and ROTK, without have to change disk halfway through...
For me, the DVD is still good enough in quality, don't really understand what
the difference will be if you only got an 28" TV or something. But hey, that's
what many said when the DVD-player was introduced many years ago...
Will stay neutral about this till I see how much prettier the pictures get
The best thing about all this that we might get EEE's of FOTR, TTT and ROTK, without have to change disk halfway through...
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