How Flippable is the Ex. 1:6 Indy

[pixletwin]

Just wondering.... :monkey3

[TOE]

it really depends on the edition amount

[Bannister]

it really depends on the edition amount

:lecture:lecture:lecture

[TheObsoleteMan]

Not very I would guess. The torch and dart are real snoozers.

[praxitas]

$90 for a "toy"

nuff said

[creature4000]

Not at all... there will be 1500 of him and already at 90$. :lol

[TOE]

i really think we can get him cheaper on ebay

[Bonehead15]

Not very I would guess. The torch and dart are real snoozers.

Agreed. Those exclusives are horrible. :monkey1

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Well, certainly not for European collectors:

Subtotal: $89.99

Tax (Est.): $23.10

Ship (Est.): $42.79

Grand Total: $155.78

I don't think someone would pay $160 for that figure on the secondary market. You touch a very good point here though. The new price doesn't help the flippers... but it's also not very good for the collectors. :monkey2

[The ill Jedi]

Well, certainly not for European collectors:

Subtotal: $89.99

Tax (Est.): $23.10

Ship (Est.): $42.79

Grand Total: [B]$155.78

Aye caramba!! :google

[tylerd]

with a weak exclusive, only the die-hard fan will want to invest the bucks. but i also have seen a metaluna mutant sell for $150 because someone wanted the stupid clear plastic spaceship. was that seriously worth the extra $100? :lol

[nash]

Just wondering.... :monkey3

Bannister, Danny, and I will be holding a seminar on how to flip 101.

[tomandshell]

The real question--how flippable is my Indiana state quarter?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Indiana_quarter,_reverse_side,_2002.jpg

[The Mike]

:lol State Quarter.

The larger the edition size the slimmer the chance of flippability. I have a feeling this edition size will be large enough for everyone who wants one to get one.

[tylerd]

Bannister, Danny, and I will be holding a seminar on how to flip 101.

i think a flipping seminar can only be held by

KING FLIPPER!!!!

[pixletwin]

The real question--how flippable is my Indiana state quarter?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Indiana_quarter,_reverse_side,_2002.jpg

That is one big quarter. it must be worth at least 24.7 Canadian cents!

[endless1]

The edition size is probably the same year it came out. What was it 1982? that's how they did the original Star wars

[Rook]

Agreed. Those exclusives are horrible. :monkey1

That's a tad harsh, I think. Sure, the exclusives aren't essential, but an exclusive isn't really supposed to be. It's supposed to be a cool addition to an already cool piece. It would have been horrible to, say, have the golden idol as an exclusive. Then everyone would want the exclusive and very few people would lower themselves to the regular.

Keep in mind that Sideshow needs to sell both editions of the figure. They're not about to offer an exclusive that's going to leave thousands of regular editions liningt he shelves of their warehouse.

[nicky]

Sorry, guys - I'm new to 1/6 collecting but what's "flippability"?

[Alice Adrenochrome]

with a weak exclusive, only the die-hard fan will want to invest the bucks. but i also have seen a metaluna mutant sell for $150 because someone wanted the stupid clear plastic spaceship. was that seriously worth the extra $100? :lol
Was not a clear plastic space ship, it was silver! :D But perhaps the very very lilmited Japanese edition with a PINK colored spaceship (ES 100 I belive) is worth that price to someone? I would love to have that version, but I wouldn't pay $150 for any of the three versions. It sure is one of my favotire 12" figures though. $50 retail btw... $50! How times and prices change!

[TheObsoleteMan]

Sorry, guys - I'm new to 1/6 collecting but what's "flippability"?

Buying something with the intent to sell it for more money down the road.

[nicky]

Ah, I see, thanks!

I'd say then that in this case it will depend (as people said already) on how limited the piece is...do we even know if this is a limited edition figure? The release of the new film will certainly draw attention to the new fig though. I personally dont see it being more valuable/collecatble than say Hot Toys Aliens/Predator figs.

[creecher]

..do we even know if this is a limited edition figure?
Yes it is limited. It has sold out. Sideshow are cool like that. They inform people by telling us the edition size of all their products. Where do you find the edition sizes of Medicom or Hot Toys figures?

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Yes it is limited. It has sold out. Sideshow are cool like that. They inform people by telling us the edition size of all their products. Where do you find the edition sizes of Medicom or Hot Toys figures?
For Medicom, the numbers are out there, belive me... . They usually have little adds which state the edition sizes when a figure is announced I belive. But we never see them. Few of us roam the Japanese web sites, or buy Japanese publications on collectibles. And HT, I guess you just have to ask them. I once wrote a mail to HT, because I wanted to know the ES of the battle damaged ED209 - great figure, isn't it :D - and they promptly answered: 500. It's as easy as that!

This reminds me... The $150 price tag on the Medicom figures do seem high for us, but that's the price for the Japanese market. Japan is a very expensive country. Unfortunately, Sideshow doesn't adjust these prices to the US market, and apparently they don't have to, since a lot of people buy those figures even at that price. That's a very comfortable situation for Sideshow. They just say that they have no control over the HT and Medicom prices... I don't belive it. I mean, they are distributing HT and Medicom figures in the US, and don't get a say in at what price these figures would best be introduced on "their" market? Sideshow is clearly taking advantage of the situation here: why adapt the price, if not necessary? The fans buy it anyway. Leaves a higher profit margin!
I am wondering... why is it that places like StarWars.com were able to sell the Medicom Stormtrooper, and the Blackhole Trooper for $100-120? Are they selling these figures deliberately with loss?? Hard to belive. As far as I know, the recently released Shock Trooper is the first Medicom figure to be sold by StarWars.com at a price that's leveled to those applied by Sideshow.
Point is: the Medicom prices don't need to be as high as they are, other US retailers prove it. Therefore it's hard to compare the Medicom quality/price ratio to Sideshow's. As a matter of fact, selling Medicom figures in the US with a Japanese price tag, is a very powerful instrument of commerce to Sideshow. Makes Sideshow's price hikes for their own 12" figures more reconcilable to their addicted: Yes there's been a raise on 12" SW figures, but look at Medicom, they are still more expensive - AND out of scale... .

Ever wondered why the first Medicom Star Wars figure was sold on the Sideshow site for $150, and every other following figure at exactly the same price? If "everything" is getting more expensive - oil - plastic - and what have you - why aren't the Medicom figures getting more expensive? Are they made of ... wood? Or do they simply comprise a higher profit margin? What ever. Even Medicom figures loose value on the secondary market, so I guess, plastic isn't that precious after all. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Sometimes, I think that also counts for value.

[pixletwin]

Golly gee. I sure hope Indy can help me pay for Gandy. :lol

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Golly gee. I sure hope Indy can help me pay for Gandy. :lol
Who knows, if you are lucky enough, you might win one for free during SDCC! But is all the SSC free swagger really for free? That again is an other discussion. :D

[EVILFACE]

Well, certainly not for European collectors:

Subtotal: $89.99

Tax (Est.): $23.10

Ship (Est.): $42.79

Grand Total: $155.78

I don't think someone would pay $160 for that figure on the secondary market. You touch a very good point here though. The new price doesn't help the flippers... but it's also not very good for the collectors. :monkey2

Ouch. Looks like you need to either move or find a new hobby.

[amarcord]

Well, certainly not for European collectors:

Subtotal: $89.99

Tax (Est.): $23.10

Ship (Est.): $42.79

Grand Total: $155.78

I don't think someone would pay $160 for that figure on the secondary market. You touch a very good point here though. The new price doesn't help the flippers... but it's also not very good for the collectors. :monkey2

Same for me Alice...
makes me sick.

I am really thinking of cancelling it and buy one later on eBay, because I believe the edition size is going to be very big, enough for an overdose.

But most of all I hope to find an original Arnie Kim (not a cheap recast).

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Same for me Alice...
makes me sick.

I am really thinking of cancelling it and buy one later on eBay, because I believe the edition size is going to be very big, enough for an overdose.
Yes I know your in the same boat! Hurts, doesn't it? But I really want the exclusive version, so I can only go with Sideshow. That's my dilemma... I'm beyond pain I guess! :D To bad that most European retailers charge you even more than Sideshow does.

[Agent23]

$90 for a "toy"

nuff said

Couldn't have said it better myself...

[Seretur]

At least you don't pay customs on top of that, Alice... :monkey2

[Protozaius]

I was originally disappointed for missing out on the Indy Exclusive... that was until I saw what the exclusive was.

Like I've learned with even the neatest of Star Wars 12" exclusives... they usually stay in the box. :lol :rotfl :lol

[Alice Adrenochrome]

At least you don't pay customs on top of that, Alice... :monkey2
Yes, that's right! Tax included!

[Batty]

I won't be selling mine, but it'll be interesting to see how much he'll be worth down the line. He could end up being like Jedi Luke. Of course edition size will play a part in it.

As far as the exclusive goes, I think it equals Luke's skiff guard blaster. It wasn't the greatest exclusive, but people seem to be willing to pay a lot more just for that.

[DarthNeil]

I think you're more likely to pose Indy with the torch (and dart inserted) than some of the other exclusives that have come out (particularly in the SW line).

http://bergmeister.web-log.nl/bergmeister/images/indiana_jones_raiders.jpg

[lcummins]

Was not a clear plastic space ship, it was silver! :D But perhaps the very very lilmited Japanese edition with a PINK colored spaceship (ES 100 I belive) is worth that price to someone? I would love to have that version, but I wouldn't pay $150 for any of the three versions. It sure is one of my favotire 12" figures though. $50 retail btw... $50! How times and prices change!

I've got the pink Japanese version! Paid about $90 for it on the bay a when these first came out. If I didn't have it, I would pay $150 for it... but that is just me.

[Mr. Fusion]

The edition size is probably the same year it came out. What was it 1982? that's how they did the original Star wars

Raiders came out in 1981.

[FlyAndFight]

Exclusive ES has to be big for it to have lasted for so long.

[Kabukiman]

So we still have people thinking the ES is a year even though Sideshow has already told us they had no idea what to set the ES at when the product went on sale?

Can't wait to read all the complaining when the ES is announced to be 3000 or 3500...

[Darth Madden]

So we still have people thinking the ES is a year even though Sideshow has already told us they had no idea what to set the ES at when the product went on sale?

Can't wait to read all the complaining when the ES is announced to be 3000 or 3500...

Yep, it will be heck of a lot more than 1981 thats for sure.

[pixletwin]

Just toys? Tell that to someone selling a PZ fig. :google

[galactiboy]

I won't sell my PZ, cost me too much $$$ :lol

[ProgMatinee]

I bought it so that means it will go down in value. Sorry to tell you that Pix.

[IrishJedi]

I would not recommend investing in this line for flipping purposes.

[olvidadero]

Yes I know your in the same boat! Hurts, doesn't it? But I really want the exclusive version, so I can only go with Sideshow. That's my dilemma... I'm beyond pain I guess! :D To bad that most European retailers charge you even more than Sideshow does.

I agree. EU customers have three options:

1. Getting the exclusive from Sideshow (and having to sell a kidney by the third figure in the line).
2. Getting the regular edition from eBay or US retailers. That way, you can save up to $50 ore more, BUT it's NOT the exclusive.
3. Getting the regular edition from local retailers. That, to me, is out of the question, most of my local retailers double the price of this kind of figures.

I chose #1. I'm not sure if i'll do the same with the next figures, I gess it'll depend on a number of factors (being the need to find a new place to live while my collectibles inhabitate my house one of them).

[galactiboy]

Man, if I lived out of the US I'd be going regular all the way... while the exclusives are nice to have I don't think anyone of them would be worth the extra shipping and import fees.

[olvidadero]

Man, if I lived out of the US I'd be going regular all the way... while the exclusives are nice to have I don't think anyone of them would be worth the extra shipping and import fees.

Yeah, you're right. Indeed, I have only a few exclusives. Only PF's because of Flexplay (and because it's Angel and Spike, and the exclusive vamped out heads are essential). I pre-ordered the exclusive Indy using my reward points, so, in the end it's probably going to cost me the same as if I bought the regular from a retailer. I wanted to have the exclusive of this first figure, but I'll probably switch to regulars with the next one.

Another exclusive I might spend the extra bucks in it's the T-Rex vs. Raptors diorama. The banner is a must to recreate that scene.

[aussieinnyc]

Another exclusive I might spend the extra bucks in it's the T-Rex vs. Raptors diorama. The banner is a must to recreate that scene.

Or you could spend a few minutes in Photoshop and a couple of bucks down at the local Kinkos and print the banner yourself. It's not like Jurassic Park font isn't easily available...

[Batty]

ES of only 1500.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

ES of only 1500.
I don't think 1500 is THAT low, but compared to the edition sizes of the exclusives in the SW and LotR lines, it is.
Wonder why SSC did this? Indy not so popular after all ($90 to much?), or are they increasing the edition number on the regular version to make profit from that figure/line?

[Batty]

I don't think 1500 is THAT low, but compared to the edition sizes of the exclusives in the SW and LotR lines, it is.
Wonder why SSC did this? Indy not so popular after all ($90 to much?), or are they increasing the edition number on the regular version to make profit from that figure/line?

No, it's not that low, but considering how long he took to sell-out, I think a lot of us were expecting the ES to be much larger.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Man, if I lived out of the US I'd be going regular all the way... while the exclusives are nice to have I don't think anyone of them would be worth the extra shipping and import fees.
Yep, you are so right, rationally speaking (although... reason and collecting :nono). But can you imagine how it feels to have them all as exclusive? I guess, that's what get's me going. If there's an Sideshow item/line I'm interested in, and there's an exclusive version... I've got it!

[Seretur]

I'm in the same boat as Alice. (How cute is that?)

And since I fully expected the ES to be 2000 or more, I'm quite happy. Of course, no 12" figs are ever going to be flippable here in Europe, as people just aren't interested in them -- but it will be nice to own a valuable Indy, all the same.

[DarthNeil]

Value is in the eye of the beholder-- anyone willing to pay inflated prices gets what they deserve...:monkey1

[galactiboy]

Yep, you are so right, rationally speaking (although... reason and collecting :nono). But can you imagine how it feels to have them all as exclusive? I guess, that's what get's me going. If there's an Sideshow item/line I'm interested in, and there's an exclusive version... I've got it!

Yeah, I'm the same way for exclusives... but I'm also a cheap bastard. So if it meant me paying extra for them (except from cool stuff like the Mynock) I'd be happy with the regular. And it would allow me to throw out the boxes.

But I salute your dedication :rock

[galactiboy]

OH, and with an ES of 1,500 I'd say a lot more flippable than I was thinking this morning :lol

[creecher]

Yeah, certainly more flippable now. Looks like the edition size has surprised a few people, including myself, but it's probably a good move by Sideshow. The regular edition should sell quite quickly too, because of this. It will also serve as a good feeler for how the market sits with this figure. With more Indy's on the horizon, we'll see how the edition sizes compare.

[galactiboy]

Although I could see a lot of people only buying and Indy... and if you were to only get one, I think Raiders is it.

[Darth Madden]

Although I could see a lot of people only buying and Indy... and if you were to only get one, I think Raiders is it.

Count me in that group.

[Mesa]

So what will the ES on the regular Indy be? Same? Maybe 2000?

All I know is, I wish I knew about this hobby a lot earlier than when I first started, maybe 1 - 1.5 years ago. There will probably be others in the same geeky general public that didn't even know these things existed (like me), and once they find out and start buying the stuff they missed, an ES of 1500 of the Ex will help long term value.

[galactiboy]

I can feel ya on that, I was buying Sideshow stuff for years now, started back when the 8" figures were still in stores. But sadly was not up on exclusives and never new about the PZ until it was too late.

I paid for that mistake :monkey2 (literally)

[olvidadero]

I'm in the same boat as Alice. (How cute is that?)

And since I fully expected the ES to be 2000 or more, I'm quite happy. Of course, no 12" figs are ever going to be flippable here in Europe, as people just aren't interested in them -- but it will be nice to own a valuable Indy, all the same.

I'm also happy I pre-ordered mine. That ES makes me feel better about it :o

[olvidadero]

Btw,

The collectibles business has truly become a global community, and here at Sideshow we value our international distribution partners and what they bring to the table each year.

What about the international customers! Value us a little more and drop the shipping fees (or give us more shipping alternatives!). Shipping for Indy is $57 for me :confused:

[Mesa]

I can feel ya on that, I was buying Sideshow stuff for years now, started back when the 8" figures were still in stores. But sadly was not up on exclusives and never new about the PZ until it was too late.

I paid for that mistake :monkey2 (literally)

I remember that. I congratulated you. Watched the auction through the final seconds.

[TCM Hitchhiker]

Although I could see a lot of people only buying and Indy... and if you were to only get one, I think Raiders is it.

Yep, I have no desire for any other version of Indy, and the only other figure I would consider buying is his father.

[Jen]

An ES of 1500 for the exclusive still seems high for me....:o I like my exlusive ES real low....like 500 or less...but that's just me....and sadly that just rarely seems to happen.

[galactiboy]

I remember that. I congratulated you. Watched the auction through the final seconds.

Thanks Mesa, appreciate it :duff

[DarthNeil]

Btw,



What about the international customers! Value us a little more and drop the shipping fees (or give us more shipping alternatives!). Shipping for Indy is $57 for me :confused:

Have you contacted SIDESHOW to get them to ship your items together instead of one at a time?... I've arranged with them to hold items until I've got a few going and then they ship them together. It saves considerably on the shipping charge.

[olvidadero]

Have you contacted SIDESHOW to get them to ship your items together instead of one at a time?... I've arranged with them to hold items until I've got a few going and then they ship them together. It saves considerably on the shipping charge.

Thanks DarthNeil. I didn't know you could do that. I'm probably ordering Lord Darkness and the JP diorama soon. If they shipped those together with the Indy figure would be great, however, I don't think they'd ship such a huge package overseas, don't you thinl?

I'll contact them anyway. Thanks again!

[Kabukiman]

1500 is half of what I predicted :monkey1

[kirklondon]

I'm surprised the ES is that "low" too.

Sorry, but what does PZ stand for? :confused:

[galactiboy]

Patient Zero, he is the first figure from Sideshow's the Dead line. Original sold for $45 with and ES of 300, now can fetch as much as $400+ on eBay.