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SSC_Nerd
02-19-2008, 01:09 AM
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr1903.htm

Stick a fork in them. They're done.

Since Toshiba gave up, I'm sure other companies are allowed to leave HD DVD exclusivity and go Blu.

RoboDad
02-19-2008, 01:32 AM
They are. There is an automatic exit clause in their contracts triggered by the death of the format.

What remains now to be seen is:

1) Whether Warner will still complete its announced schedule of HD DVD releases through May. My guess is, no. Anything that is sufficiently far enough along the development/production cycle will probably be released (the money on those titles has already been spent, so why not recoup it?), but anything else will likely be scrapped, in favor of a Blu-ray-only release.

2) How quickly Paramount can get re-ramped up on Blu-ray production. We know that several titles were already well into development for Blu-ray (some even pressed) before the company aligned itself with HD DVD, so many insiders expect to see at least some Paramount Blu-ray titles on store shelves within 3-4 weeks.

3) What will become of Universal? There is a lot of bad blood between Universal and Sony. Will that be enough to keep the studio at arms length? And if so, for how long?

SSC_Nerd
02-19-2008, 01:35 AM
3) What will become of Universal? There is a lot of bad blood between Universal and Sony. Will that be enough to keep the studio at arms length? And if so, for how long?

Well, they'll just be hated in general if they don't put movies out. Hell, they mastered a lot of movies in HD, so why not just release them and make the moolah. There are a lot of movies that Blu people will certainly buy. King Kong and Bourne spring to mind pretty quick. Money is money. Bad blood be damned.

Sick Boy 82
02-19-2008, 01:38 AM
They are. There is an automatic exit clause in their contracts triggered by the death of the format.

What remains now to be seen is:

1) Whether Warner will still complete its announced schedule of HD DVD releases through May. My guess is, no. Anything that is sufficiently far enough along the development/production cycle will probably be released (the money on those titles has already been spent, so why not recoup it?), but anything else will likely be scrapped, in favor of a Blu-ray-only release.

2) How quickly Paramount can get re-ramped up on Blu-ray production. We know that several titles were already well into development for Blu-ray (some even pressed) before the company aligned itself with HD DVD, so many insiders expect to see at least some Paramount Blu-ray titles on store shelves within 3-4 weeks.

3) What will become of Universal? There is a lot of bad blood between Universal and Sony. Will that be enough to keep the studio at arms length? And if so, for how long?

Damn, this sucks. I have a super nice stand alone HD-DVD player and tons of movies. Crap.

1. They will release what they have and just re-release them in Blu-Ray.

2. Yeah, they will just start releasing all the HD-DVD movies they have released so far on Blu-Ray, as will all the other studios.

3. No, probably not, as they want to make money like everybody else!

darthviper107
02-19-2008, 02:27 AM
I'm still wondering about what will happen to the HD-DVD exclusives that were planned, I don't know how long it takes for them to develop the discs so it might be worth it to just release them--but again, I don't know.


Paramount and Universal will definitely rerelease their HD-DVD exclusives on Blu-Ray, no reason not to since they can make a good amount of money off it.

darth dypshyt
02-19-2008, 03:30 AM
It will take some time, but I am sure that Universal and Paramount will be releasing Blu-Ray movies before the end of the year. How stupid do Paramount feel about deciding to go HD-DVD a few months back..:o:o

KitFisto
02-19-2008, 05:26 AM
Couldn't this have gone in the nearly 1,500 post HD DVD vs Blu-Ray thread with the rest of the updates? :monkey3

Darth Loki
02-19-2008, 05:43 AM
I honestly think this announcement merits its own thread.

Glad I told my Dad to wait on HD. Too bad I didn't :monkey3

I wonder how cheap HD movies will become though.

KitFisto
02-19-2008, 05:44 AM
I honestly think this announcement merits its own thread.


Shocking :rolleyes:

Darth Loki
02-19-2008, 07:39 AM
Shocking :rolleyes:

What the hell's that for :confused:

It's not like I'm Ill or anything.

Jamal
02-19-2008, 07:44 AM
Finally, was getting sick of this war

rw23
02-19-2008, 07:52 AM
Here Kit, use this to patrol the forums making sure peolpe don't start new threads on a MESSGAE BOARD!!! :rolleyes:

http://t-bar.ca/fun/police.jpg

uscmhicks
02-19-2008, 07:53 AM
I don't think it should be a war full stop. If its a good movie , you have the ability to play it and its a good picture just watch it!!!.
Who cares what the hell kinda disc it is or what its playing on , just watch the damn movie !.

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 08:02 AM
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Nitro
02-19-2008, 08:10 AM
I didn't have any problem with the format war. I own both formats and didn't care who won.

Even though I already own a Blu Ray player, I'm not going to unload my HD DVD player. I spent $99 on the thing just before the holidays and the last time I checked it still plays wonderfully with the few HD DVD's that I own or my large assortment of standard DVD's (upconverted). I will never make anybody that owns a HD-DVD feel sorry that they bought it, because if I didn't already have a Blu Ray player...I'd be in the same boat.

My focus will simply be placed on adding a few more Blu Ray movies to my collection. I already have POTC: DMC & AWE, Cars, Ratatouille, The Game Plan, & Casino Royale. While I'm not going to replace every movie that I own on standard DVD and start another huge collection of movies, I'm just going to bide my time and buy what Blu Rays I like.

uscmhicks
02-19-2008, 08:19 AM
I didn't have any problem with the format war. I own both formats and didn't care who won.

Even though I already own a Blu Ray player, I'm not going to unload my HD DVD player. I spent $99 on the thing just before the holidays and the last time I checked it still plays wonderfully with the few HD DVD's that I own or my large assortment of standard DVD's (upconverted). I will never make anybody that owns a HD-DVD feel sorry that they bought it, because if I didn't already have a Blu Ray player...I'd be in the same boat.

My focus will simply be placed on adding a few more Blu Ray movies to my collection. I already have POTC: DMC & AWE, Cars, Ratatouille, The Game Plan, & Casino Royale. While I'm not going to replace every movie that I own on standard DVD and start another huge collection of movies, I'm just going to bide my time and buy what Blu Rays I like.

exactly ...
when im on xbox live I hate how when someone mentions the ps3 massive arguments start that the xbox is better. There both great consoles and like blu ray and hd dvd for some reason are in a so called "war".
Just because someone can't afford both they slag the other off.
I don't own either of them to be honest but I do own a 360.
I will be getting a ps3 for metal gear solid so hopefully blu ray will be as good as everyone says it is. :rock

KitFisto
02-19-2008, 08:21 AM
What the hell's that for :confused:

It's not like I'm Ill or anything.

I was just saying you always disagree with me :lol

KitFisto
02-19-2008, 08:22 AM
Here Kit, use this to patrol the forums making sure peolpe don't start new threads on a MESSGAE BOARD!!! :rolleyes:

http://t-bar.ca/fun/police.jpg

Ok, I will do that just for you.

DarkArtist81
02-19-2008, 08:22 AM
I didn't have any problem with the format war. I own both formats and didn't care who won.

Even though I already own a Blu Ray player, I'm not going to unload my HD DVD player. I spent $99 on the thing just before the holidays and the last time I checked it still plays wonderfully with the few HD DVD's that I own or my large assortment of standard DVD's (upconverted). I will never make anybody that owns a HD-DVD feel sorry that they bought it, because if I didn't already have a Blu Ray player...I'd be in the same boat.

My focus will simply be placed on adding a few more Blu Ray movies to my collection. I already have POTC: DMC & AWE, Cars, Ratatouille, The Game Plan, & Casino Royale. While I'm not going to replace every movie that I own on standard DVD and start another huge collection of movies, I'm just going to bide my time and buy what Blu Rays I like.

Well said... and my EXACT feelings on this matter. I have mostly regular DVD's and a few HD DVD's. I haven't gotten a Blu Ray player yet, but was planning on it. Now at least I don't have to decide which disc to get, I can just get Blu Ray and be done with it. :lol

rw23
02-19-2008, 08:30 AM
Ok, I will do that just for you.


Thanks! :D

Jamal
02-19-2008, 08:34 AM
Here Kit, use this to patrol the forums making sure peolpe don't start new threads on a MESSGAE BOARD!!! :rolleyes:

http://t-bar.ca/fun/police.jpg

LOL best post in this thread maybe?

KitFisto
02-19-2008, 08:36 AM
Thanks! :D

No problem. I wasn't trying to be a **** about and didn't attack the guy. I was just saying there is already a Blu-Ray vs HD DVD thread on the front page where pretty much all the updates have been posted so I didn't see the need for a new thread on the same topic. People "thread direct" around here all the time.

King Darkness
02-19-2008, 08:37 AM
Wonderful news!!

What an awesome week this has been.

Gandalf 12"
Obi in armor
Indy 12"

and the death of HD DVD:rock :rock :rock

King Darkness
02-19-2008, 08:38 AM
Oh, and when the hell are we getting Transformers on BD?

Darth Loki
02-19-2008, 08:40 AM
Wonderful news!!

What an awesome week this has been.

Gandalf 12"
Obi in armor
Indy 12"

and the death of HD DVD:rock :rock :rock

How can anyone be happy about the death of competition? :confused:

Remember the holidays and all those BOGO deals on Amazon? Kiss that goodbye. BR now has no need to lower the prices on their players or discs. How this is a good thing is beyond me. Competition is always a good thing.

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 08:43 AM
How can anyone be happy about the death of competition? :confused:

Remember the holidays and all those BOGO deals on Amazon? Kiss that goodbye. BR now has no need to lower the prices on their players or discs. How this is a good thing is beyond me. Competition is always a good thing.

Well I for one am happy because now we can start getting all films on one format rather than having to go out and buy another player just to watch a movie in HD. Yes, it kills competition and sales (somewhat), but they'll still have to compete with DVD, and we'll still get sales from that.

BadMoon
02-19-2008, 08:46 AM
Well I for one am happy because now we can start getting all films on one format rather than having to go out and buy another player just to watch a movie in HD. Yes, it kills competition and sales (somewhat), but they'll still have to compete with DVD, and we'll still get sales from that.

I agree. I also think the prices of the players are about a year away from coming down in price a good bit.

lcummins
02-19-2008, 08:47 AM
Well I for one am happy because now we can start getting all films on one format rather than having to go out and buy another player just to watch a movie in HD. Yes, it kills competition and sales (somewhat), but they'll still have to compete with DVD, and we'll still get sales from that.

The competition will just move to the retailers now... :D

King Darkness
02-19-2008, 08:49 AM
Well I for one am happy because now we can start getting all films on one format rather than having to go out and buy another player just to watch a movie in HD. Yes, it kills competition and sales (somewhat), but they'll still have to compete with DVD, and we'll still get sales from that.

:lecture

Thats why I am happy the war is over. Sure sales were cool, but owning 2 machines to watch movies was total ****.

I just want to go to the store and know every new movie is available to me.

And again, BD is not just gonna stop and sit back, they still have DVD to compete with, which a much more formidable opponent than HD DVD was.

KitFisto
02-19-2008, 08:49 AM
Well I for one am happy because now we can start getting all films on one format rather than having to go out and buy another player just to watch a movie in HD. Yes, it kills competition and sales (somewhat), but they'll still have to compete with DVD, and we'll still get sales from that.

I don't see regular DVD as competition for Blu-Ray. HD is a fairly "nitch" crowd. There are many that could care less if BR is the same price as DVD they still won't switch from DVD. There are also many, many households that don't have HD TV's, much less 1080p TV's which bring out the real beauty in Blu-Ray.

Also, there are many people ( who I think are nuts :lol ) that say they don't see any real diff between BR and regular DVD. BR now stands alone for what, at the monet, is a nitch crowd. I think it will be several years, if ever, that BR becomes the "standard" and regular DVD is replaced.

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 08:52 AM
I don't see regular DVD as competition for Blu-Ray. HD is a fairly "nitch" crowd. There are many that could care less if BR is the same price as DVD they still won't switch from DVD. There are also many, many households that don't have HD TV's, much less 1080p TV's which bring out the real beauty in Blu-Ray.

Also, there are many people ( who I think are nuts :lol ) that say they don't see any real diff between BR and regular DVD. BR now stands alone for what, at the monet, is a nitch crowd. I think it will be several years, if ever, that BR becomes the "standard" and regular DVD is replaced.

I hear ya and agree. All i'm trying to say is that we will still get sales, somehow. And as lonnie said, retailers will compete now.

KitFisto
02-19-2008, 08:56 AM
I hear ya and agree. All i'm trying to say is that we will still get sales, somehow. And as lonnie said, retailers will compete now.

I hope so. I loved all the 2 for 1 deals and super sales. Not looking forward to $30 a movie if that's what it comes to. Gotta have some good sales! :D

SSC_Nerd
02-19-2008, 09:00 AM
Personally, I thouhgt this was a big enough topic to deserve its own thread. People may brush over the Blu-ray HD DVD thread, but a thread with this title would get people to look at it. That's what I though. Oh, there are so many crap threads out there these days, what does it really matter. IF the administrators don't like it, by all means, merge it.

Anywho, I don't think places like Warner will be bringing out the planned HD DVD's. Put it this way, after hearing this announcement, people will drop HD DVD and not buy any more movies. IF that number is big enough, Warner would risk maybe making MORE movies than there are people who use that format. Making movies for a "dead" format is far too risky. Could lose that precious dollar.

UTtoyfan
02-19-2008, 09:00 AM
I'm also all about the sale! I just bought The Rock BD at Best Buy for $4.99!! (That's with my $10 reward zone certificate of course. The sale price this week is $14.99)

Chimera 1
02-19-2008, 09:05 AM
So how soon will MS come out with a blu ray attachment for the 360?

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 09:12 AM
So how soon will MS come out with a blu ray attachment for the 360?

A wild guess.... Fall, or just in time for Christmas of this year.

Kabukiman
02-19-2008, 10:29 AM
I'm wondering if the people that are sad HD-DVD is gone were said at the death of retail DivX as well :confused:

tomandshell
02-19-2008, 10:40 AM
I am actually a bit surprised that they made this decision--the writing was certainly on the wall, but I expected them to drag this out into the end of this year or early 2009. Now the war is over with 10 months left until Christmas. The end of the confusion is going to help a lot of people get on board.

KitFisto
02-19-2008, 10:44 AM
I am actually a bit surprised that they made this decision--the writing was certainly on the wall, but I expected them to drag this out into the end of this year or early 2009. Now the war is over with 10 months left until Christmas. The end of the confusion is going to help a lot of people get on board.

Sony probably thew a dump truck of money at them to end it sooner. :monkey3 :lol

Sick Boy 82
02-19-2008, 10:51 AM
MS already said that they would be putting out a Blu-Ray add-on pretty soon if it was annouced that Sony won. So yeah, expect a Christmas add-on. But it is really good that someone won sooner rather than later. This could have gone on for awhile. But I love all my HD-DVD movies and my HD-35A. All the movies look so good on it. Hell, I was already gonna get a PS3 so i could play MGS4, so....

And I love my HD-DVD toys, but this is a funny ass pic:

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20080117/hd_270x231.jpg

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 10:59 AM
:rock :lol :rock :lol :rock

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/01/hd-dvd-downfall.jpg

Darth Loki
02-19-2008, 11:21 AM
I have two HD players and will hopefully be able to take advantage of some great deals on HD DVD's in the near future.

Reinhardt
02-19-2008, 11:22 AM
I have two HD players and will hopefully be able to take advantage of some great deals on HD DVD's in the near future.

that's what i'm hoping for as well.

SSC_Nerd
02-19-2008, 11:45 AM
Well, Universal just announced they're going Blu!!!:D:D

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Universal/Breaking:_Universal__Studios_Goes_Blu/1483

Nitro
02-19-2008, 12:03 PM
Well, Universal just announced they're going Blu!!!:D:D

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Universal/Breaking:_Universal__Studios_Goes_Blu/1483

Kinda figured it would happen immediately after...now all Paramount has to do is switch back over to Blu...

I'm hoping Sony and other companies that manufacture these Blu Ray players will make them more affordable for pending customers. I was lucky enough that I have a PS3 during the timeframe of the format war so I got to see both sides of the coin.

That being said, I'm looking forward to quite a few Universal movies on Blu Ray...Jaws & Back To The Future are tops on my list.

Darklord Dave
02-19-2008, 12:06 PM
I think this warrants it's own thread, since the other thread is "HD vs. Blu-ray" and that is a moot point now.

SSC_Nerd
02-19-2008, 12:10 PM
That being said, I'm looking forward to quite a few Universal movies on Blu Ray...Jaws & Back To The Future are tops on my list.

Personally, I can't wait for King Kong and the Bournes. Paramount will make me happy with Stardust. At least now there's no question about Indy getting released on high def now.

I also want Miami Vice.:o

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 12:11 PM
Well, Universal just announced they're going Blu!!!:D:D

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Universal/Breaking:_Universal__Studios_Goes_Blu/1483
:rock :chew :joy :banana :clap :fireworks

Eli26
02-19-2008, 12:17 PM
I hope the casualties and injuries were low. I hate wars... all that irrelevant violence. *shakes head*

Wait a minute, this is about some lame high def. DVD competition! There is no war here! Geez!

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 12:22 PM
Transformers on Blu!!! :rock

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 12:23 PM
Well, Universal just announced they're going Blu!!!:D:D

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Universal/Breaking:_Universal__Studios_Goes_Blu/1483

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:joy:joy:joy:fireworks:fireworks:fireworks:firewor ks:fireworks:fireworks

Brand X
02-19-2008, 12:26 PM
Yikes, I've only had my HD-DVD player for a couple of weeks and now it's going the way of the beta max? I knew there was a risk involved, but I didn't think the war would end this early in the year. I still haven't sent in my rebate for the movies discs yet, does anyone know if Toshiba will continue honoring them?

I assume that I should wait to purchase any more movies on HD-DVD until the inevitable price drops on all of the discs. Anybody have a guess as to how soon that will be?

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 12:26 PM
Where's Irish Jedi? :monkey3

Fetunche
02-19-2008, 12:26 PM
I have a PS3 and Xbox 360 HD DVD so I don't mind. :emperor Now the war is over, hopefully Starwars will be released soon on bluray.

King Darkness
02-19-2008, 12:28 PM
Where's Irish Jedi? :monkey3

At lunch with Michael Bay.

Bannister
02-19-2008, 12:32 PM
At lunch with Michael Bay.

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 12:32 PM
At lunch with Michael Bay.

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 12:33 PM
At lunch with Michael Bay.
:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 12:36 PM
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Darth Loki
02-19-2008, 12:37 PM
Transformers on Blu!!! :rock

I can tell you that this is the movie my Dad is most anticipating on BR. I told him to hold off getting and HD player as he almost bought one just to have Transformers.

King Darkness
02-19-2008, 12:38 PM
I can tell you that this is the movie my Dad is most anticipating on BR. I told him to hold off getting and HD player as he almost bought one just to have Transformers.

My most anticipated movie on BD too!!!

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 12:42 PM
My most anticipated movie on BD too!!!

That makes 3 of us :rock

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 12:45 PM
I can tell you that this is the movie my Dad is most anticipating on BR. I told him to hold off getting and HD player as he almost bought one just to have Transformers.
I'm also really looking forward to:
Shaun of the Dead
Hot Fuzz
The Thing
Heroes!!!
American Werewolf in London
12 Monkeys
Children of Men

:rock :rock :rock

King Darkness
02-19-2008, 12:46 PM
I'm also really looking forward to:
Shaun of the Dead
Hot Fuzz
The Thing
Heroes!!!
American Werewolf in London
12 Monkeys
Children of Men

:rock :rock :rock


:rock :rock :rock

Hell yeah!!

UTtoyfan
02-19-2008, 12:46 PM
I am looking forward to Transformers as well! But now with Universal(and hopefully Dreamworks) on the Blu side, I can't wait for JURASSIC PARK!!!! :chew:monkey5

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 12:50 PM
...I can't wait for JURASSIC PARK!!!! :chew:monkey5
T-Rex in Hi-Def picture and sound. :drool

Sick Boy 82
02-19-2008, 12:52 PM
on the Blu side, I can't wait for JURASSIC PARK!!!! :chew:monkey5

Haha, I was just saying that in the JP Thread!! I want them too!!!

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 12:54 PM
Transformers
Miami Vice
Shaun of the Dead
Hot Fuzz
Bourne Series
American Gangster
Cloverfield

:rock :rock :rock

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 12:55 PM
Transformers
Miami Vice
Shaun of the Dead
Hot Fuzz
Bourne Series
American Gangster
Cloverfield

:rock :rock :rock
In bold = :monkey4






:D Just F'n wit ya!!

I forgot to add The Kingdom, bad ass flick!! :rock

SSC_Nerd
02-19-2008, 12:57 PM
At least there maybe a few other people out there who may want Miami Vice as well....:monkey1:monkey1

At least now Spielberg won't have any trouble getting his movies out in HD. All that Paramount and Dreamworks crap stunk.

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 12:59 PM
In bold = :monkey4

:D Just F'n wit ya!!

I forgot to add The Kingdom, bad ass flick!! :rock

BAH! Miami Vice kicked ass. I'm just a Michael Mann fan.

The Kingdom kicked ass too, saw it in the theater. Thanks for reminding me :D

Sick Boy 82
02-19-2008, 12:59 PM
Well, I already got all those in HD-DVD, except for the last 2. So just Cloverfield and AmG, plus all the new movies coming out from now on!!

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 12:59 PM
At least there maybe a few other people out there who may want Miami Vice as well....:monkey1:monkey1

At least now Spielberg won't have any trouble getting his movies out in HD. All that Paramount and Dreamworks crap stunk.
Miami Vice! :lol Can't get past the mullet and fu-manchu on Colin Farrell! :D

More Spielberg on Blu is always welcome!!

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 01:00 PM
SAVING PRIVATE RYAN :google

Oh my God, how could I forget about that!!

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 01:00 PM
Miami Vice! :lol Can't get past the mullet and fu-manchu on Colin Farrell! :D

More Spielberg on Blu is always welcome!!

:cuss:cuss:cuss:cuss:cuss:cuss:cuss:cuss

SSC_Nerd
02-19-2008, 01:05 PM
:cuss:cuss:cuss:cuss:cuss:cuss:cuss:cuss

Let's not get hasty now. We'll get Miami Vice sooner or later, and don't forget Heat is gonna be out from Warner by the end of the year.

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 01:10 PM
Let's not get hasty now. We'll get Miami Vice sooner or later, and don't forget Heat is gonna be out from Warner by the end of the year.

Yeah Heat is definitely a must buy for me. The street shooting scene should look awesome in HD.

SSC_Nerd
02-19-2008, 01:15 PM
Yeah Heat is definitely a must buy for me. The street shooting scene should look awesome in HD.

Dude, what Michael Mann movie WOULDN'T look good in HD? He has certainly done some of my favorite movies.


(wishes for Manhunter, but is likely to be dissapointed)

bagelsncheesey
02-19-2008, 01:18 PM
Dude, what Michael Mann movie WOULDN'T look good in HD? He has certainly done some of my favorite movies.


(wishes for Manhunter, but is likely to be dissapointed)

:rock :rock :rock

When they release Thief, i'll be on cloud nine.

Darth Loki
02-19-2008, 01:20 PM
T-Rex in Hi-Def picture and sound. :drool

Don't tease :monkey5

King Darkness
02-19-2008, 01:28 PM
SAVING PRIVATE RYAN :google

Oh my God, how could I forget about that!!

Hell yes!!!!! I cant wait for this one too, and Gladiator!!!!

SSC_Nerd
02-19-2008, 01:29 PM
I guess the doors finally busted wide open for possobilities.

JBElliott
02-19-2008, 02:35 PM
I was glad to hear this since for once, the technologically superior product won out.

Yippy
02-19-2008, 02:42 PM
I was glad to hear this since for once, the technologically superior product won out.

Really? You really think so?? :confused:

JBElliott
02-19-2008, 02:44 PM
Really? You really think so?? :confused:

Based on the fact that the Blu Ray disc has the greater storage capacity: yes.

great1
02-19-2008, 02:48 PM
I can't wait for the Back to the Future trilogy, Transformers and The Rundown on blu-ray! :monkey5

The ill Jedi
02-19-2008, 02:52 PM
I can't wait for the Back to the Future trilogy,
Ahhh Yes!!! Another great one!! No pun intended. :D

darthviper107
02-19-2008, 03:04 PM
Based on the fact that the Blu Ray disc has the greater storage capacity: yes.

There was a lot of discussion over technologically superior. It's best to say that both had advantages and disadvantages that makes it impossible to say one was technologically superior to the other.


Anyways, I want Indy, LOTR, Star Wars (plus the new series). Firefly(maybe, I heard it wasn't shot in HD, but Universal played it in HD on TV so I'm not so sure).

Darth Loki
02-19-2008, 05:40 PM
Based on the fact that the Blu Ray disc has the greater storage capacity: yes.

That must be why they released only the theatrical version of Live Free or Die Hard on BR and both versions on the standard DVD :rolleyes:

No point in having it if you're not gonna f'n use it


And what does storage capacity have to do with anything? You get the same audio and video output on an HD disk. It's not like they're gonna start putting entire seasons of shows on one disk. People are too stupid to realize it's the same amount of material and think they're getting a better deal on a 5-6 disk season.

nash
02-19-2008, 05:50 PM
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nash
02-19-2008, 05:51 PM
It's not like they're gonna start putting entire seasons of shows on one disk.

Yes they already do put entire seasons on one disc for BluRay. Dont know about HD because I never got into that side of the war :lol

SSC_Nerd
02-19-2008, 06:48 PM
That must be why they released only the theatrical version of Live Free or Die Hard on BR and both versions on the standard DVD :rolleyes:



Goodness knows they may have done that for milking purposes. Anybody crazy enough to spend that much on a normal blu-ray edition is crazy enough to maube buy it again. Besides, Fox kinda sucks like that.

mfoga
02-19-2008, 06:53 PM
That must be why they released only the theatrical version of Live Free or Die Hard on BR and both versions on the standard DVD :rolleyes:

No point in having it if you're not gonna f'n use it


And what does storage capacity have to do with anything? You get the same audio and video output on an HD disk. It's not like they're gonna start putting entire seasons of shows on one disk. People are too stupid to realize it's the same amount of material and think they're getting a better deal on a 5-6 disk season.

Exactly, they have been doing this with regular DVDs for years why stop now? Plus a lot of people have the idea that you can't fit all that on one DVD or a few dvds so they fell like they are not getting something if its on 2-3 dvds vs 5-6 dvds and are less likely to buy it. I know it sounds crazy but I have seen people with this mentality.

Darth Loki
02-19-2008, 08:32 PM
Yes they already do put entire seasons on one disc for BluRay. Dont know about HD because I never got into that side of the war :lol

Not trying to be a **** or anything but do you have any examples. Every show I've seen from Netflix or anywhere else is multiple disks for each season.

Jamal
02-19-2008, 10:15 PM
I love this news just for the fact that i know ill need only one player now, this is what i was waiting for. Now when i buy a player ill have no other format taking titles i like.

Natrix
02-19-2008, 10:20 PM
Yes they already do put entire seasons on one disc for BluRay. Dont know about HD because I never got into that side of the war :lol

I have never seen an entire season of any show on one disk on Blu Ray...prove me wrong and I will :monkey1

Amir
02-19-2008, 10:25 PM
Sorry I admit I did not read through this entire thread and I have not been following the format wars. But as the title of this thread states, did Blue-Ray win, no more HD, just one format now? Should I finally go out and purchase a PS3? I just want a quick update, thanks:D

darthviper107
02-19-2008, 10:30 PM
Sorry I admit I did not read through this entire thread and I have not been following the format wars. But as the title of this thread states, did Blue-Ray win, no more HD, just one format now? Should I finally go out and purchase a PS3? I just want a quick update, thanks:D

Yes, Toshiba--which is the main developer of the HD-DVD format has stopped production of their HD-DVD products which kills the format. So far Universal has already announced that they are switching to Blu-Ray and no news yet on Paramount, although they can't be far behind.

Amir
02-19-2008, 10:34 PM
Thanks, guess I'll be keeping my eyes open for a deal on a PS3, any chance a new format is going to emerge out of this to challenge Blue Ray?

tomandshell
02-19-2008, 10:40 PM
I have never seen an entire season of any show on one disk on Blu Ray...prove me wrong and I will :monkey1

Weeds: Season One is presented on a single dual layer Blu-ray disc, because it only contained ten half-hour episodes.

That is by far the exception to the rule, though. Other sets like Lost and Prison Break and Smallville are all five or six disc sets.

darthviper107
02-20-2008, 01:31 AM
Thanks, guess I'll be keeping my eyes open for a deal on a PS3, any chance a new format is going to emerge out of this to challenge Blue Ray?

I believe there are different companies working on the next formats, I know they've been working on the Ultra High Definition discs, like 1TB of data with a resolution equal to the movie theater (4x what Blu-Ray is) Then there's someone else working on a format that would give Imax quality picture, but that would take a good deal of development for a disc that could do that.

IrishJedi
02-20-2008, 08:46 AM
There is a great article in USA Today about this. It seems some of the Blu-ray fanboys might want to temper the gloating just a tad:


Blu-ray triumphs in high-def DVD war

By David Lieberman, USA TODAY

NEW YORK — The future of high-def DVDs became a lot clearer Tuesday after Toshiba said that by March it will stop making players for its HD DVD format, leaving Sony's (SNE) Blu-ray as the champion of the three-year format war.

But while that eliminates a big source of confusion for some consumers, others will still struggle to see how the change benefits them. "Consumers are the losers in the short term," ABI Research said in a report. Reasons include:

•Price cuts for Blu-ray players may become less frequent and steep without competition from HD DVD. The cheapest Blu-ray player costs more than $300.

•Different kinds of Blu-ray players will confuse some. For example, only upcoming models have the Internet ports needed for interactive bonus features on some new discs.

•Limited capacity to produce Blu-ray discs could frustrate consumers who expect to see a flood of titles from all studios.

"We definitely need to see more manufacturing capacity out there if we're really going to make a go of this," says Lionsgate (LGF) President Steve Beeks.

Universal and Paramount, which supported HD DVD, may have the hardest time. Their disc orders likely would come behind those of Blu-ray supporters Disney (DIS), Fox, Lionsgate, Sony and Warner Bros. (TWX).

Warner's decision last month to stop offering HD DVD led Best Buy (BBY), Netflix (NFLX) and Wal-Mart (WMT) to follow suit, effectively making it unviable.

"It wasn't consumers who chose Blu-ray over HD DVD. It was the industry," says Toshiba's Jodi Sally.

Even without these problems, retailers might find it hard to persuade consumers to buy Blu-ray.

Toshiba said it might try to offer high-def videos without discs, for example on flash memory and wireless technologies.

Meanwhile, "A lot of consumers are still satisfied with their current DVD player and plan to continue using it until it breaks," says Ross Rubin, director of industry analysis for The NPD Group.

That's one reason Blu-ray backers and retailers are weighing deals to help HD DVD buyers switch.

"You don't want consumers to feel like they were burned by making the wrong choice," Beeks says. "I'd expect to see some programs announced."

It may take a lot to ease consumers' hurt feelings. Surveys of electronics buyers by The Envisioneering Group found that "only one consumer in 10 didn't feel betrayed" by the format war, says research firm director Richard Doherty. "This may leave a sour taste with consumers for some time to come with other devices."

The ill Jedi
02-20-2008, 08:55 AM
There is a great article in USA Today about this. It seems some of the Blu-ray fanboys might want to temper the gloating just a tad:
*Very long and annoyed SIGH* :rolleyes:

Do you wanna sell me your HD-DVD collection? So I can use the disks as coasters!!

IrishJedi
02-20-2008, 09:01 AM
It's not really much of a "collection" (I only have about 15 or so titles in HD DVD and about the same in Blu-ray) but I think I can hang on to them for a while.

I'm much more worried about my 2,000+ DVDs becoming "coasters" someday. But as long as BD and other future disc-based formats retain backwards-compatibility I'll be covered. :lol

You guys ARE very fanboyish about all of this stuff, though. You'd think your mothers' lives depended on Blu-ray winning or something. :huh

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 09:05 AM
There is a great article in USA Today about this. It seems some of the Blu-ray fanboys might want to temper the gloating just a tad:

Never!!!!

BLU-RAY, BLU-RAY,BLU-RAY, BLU-RAY, BLU-RAY, BLU-RAY, BLU-RAY, BLU-RAY!!!!!

Nitro
02-20-2008, 09:05 AM
*Very long and annoyed SIGH* :rolleyes:

Do you wanna sell me your HD-DVD collection? So I can use the disks as coasters!!

Yeah, but those stand alone Blu Ray players might make good serving trays if the product doesn't reach viable consumers...

Blu Ray has an uphill battle right now. Getting through HD DVD was one thing, supplanting standard DVD as the next medium is something completely different and challenging. I'd imagine the general public doesn't want to spend $300+ on a Blu Ray players.

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 09:06 AM
You guys ARE very fanboyish about all of this stuff, though. You'd think your mothers' lives depended on Blu-ray winning or something. :huh

Actually, there is a Sony representative with a gun to my mothers head right now, waiting for this war to end. :monkey1

IrishJedi
02-20-2008, 09:06 AM
Actually, there is a Sony representative with a gun to my mothers head right now, waiting for this war to end. :monkey1

I knew it! :lol

The ill Jedi
02-20-2008, 09:07 AM
Yeah, but those stand alone Blu Ray players might make good serving trays if the product doesn't reach viable consumers...
No, my PS3 will be just fine playing games if *pfft* Blu-Ray doesn't pan out. :lol

KitFisto
02-20-2008, 09:07 AM
You guys ARE very fanboyish about all of this stuff, though. You'd think your mothers' lives depended on Blu-ray winning or something. :huh

That's the one thing I still don't understand. It's a "HAHA, IN YOUR FACE" attitude. I don't understand the over the top victory lap from people who don't own the rights to Blu-Ray.

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 09:07 AM
I knew it! :lol

In fact, he looks kinda like the emoticon on the right side of your signature.......

Nitro
02-20-2008, 09:09 AM
No, my PS3 will be just fine playing games if *pfft* Blu-Ray doesn't pan out. :lol

I said stand alone Blu ray players...I never mentioned anything about PS3 (which I have myself)...

Nitro
02-20-2008, 09:09 AM
That's the one thing I still don't understand. It's a "HAHA, IN YOUR FACE" attitude. I don't understand the over the top victory lap from people who don't own the rights to Blu-Ray.

I don't understand it either Kit...

The ill Jedi
02-20-2008, 09:14 AM
For all those who "Don't understand", we're just having a bit of fun for ****'s sake, at the expense of those HD-DVD 'Fanboys', who were so sure that it would win out. I could've cared less, it didn't mean any more or less money in my pocket.

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 09:16 AM
For all those who "Don't understand", we're just having a bit of fun for ****'s sake, at the expense of those HD-DVD 'Fanboys', who were so sure that it would win out.

Hear Hear!!

SSC_Nerd
02-20-2008, 09:18 AM
You wanna see fanboyism? Go to the High Def Digest forums. It's carazy over there!

IrishJedi
02-20-2008, 09:19 AM
For all those who "Don't understand", we're just having a bit of fun for ****'s sake, at the expense of those HD-DVD 'Fanboys', who were so sure that it would win out. I could've cared less, it didn't mean any more or less money in my pocket.

On the Freaks boards I've never really noticed any HD DVD Fanboys, though. Have you guys come across them elsewhere?



You wanna see fanboyism? Go to the High Def Digest forums. It's carazy over there!
No thanks. The acolytes on those types of sites just make me want BOTH formats to fail. :monkey4

Jamal
02-20-2008, 09:19 AM
Who would be a fanboy of either format? call it a geek?

i dont give a rats ass who wins as long as there is only one..

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 09:20 AM
On the Freaks boards I've never really noticed any HD DVD Fanboys, though. Have you guys come across them elsewhere?

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking Irish.

IrishJedi
02-20-2008, 09:24 AM
You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking Irish.

Well, I admittedly did not frequent the HD DVD vs Blu-Ray threads as much as you guys. But I certainly never noticed two real factions on here. It seems most of you guys were clearly 100% Blu-ray all the way.

The ill Jedi
02-20-2008, 09:24 AM
You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking Irish.
Seriously.

KitFisto
02-20-2008, 09:24 AM
You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking Irish.

I know I took HD DVD's side because you BR fanboys were driving me crazy :lol, but that months ago and I never really went off the deep end with it at all. Who were the over the top HD DVD people?

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 09:27 AM
I know I took HD DVD's side because you BR fanboys were driving me crazy :lol, but that months ago and I never really went off the deep end with it at all. Who were the over the top HD DVD people?

Once again, I don't understand how one could be a fanboy. It's called an INVESTMENT. I'll say it again. When you invest close to, if not more than $1k into your hardware and movies, you want to see something succeed. I don't see how that's being a fanboy.

Darth Loki
02-20-2008, 09:28 AM
Once again, I don't understand how one could be a fanboy. It's called an INVESTMENT. I'll say it again. When you invest close to, if not more than $1k into your hardware and movies, you want to see something succeed. I don't see how that's being a fanboy.

I invested in both so I'm a winner and a loser :monkey2:D

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 09:29 AM
Well, I admittedly did not frequent the HD DVD vs Blu-Ray threads as much as you guys. But I certainly never noticed two real factions on here. It seems most of you guys were clearly 100% Blu-ray all the way.

Grab a few cups of coffee, maybe even a case of beer if it's during the evening, get all cozy by the fire, and read the entire thread. :cool:

IrishJedi
02-20-2008, 09:33 AM
I invested in both so I'm a winner and a loser :monkey2:D

Same here. Always hedge your bets. :duff

Sick Boy 82
02-20-2008, 09:34 AM
I only have about 20 HD-DVD movies, so I will keep them and my HD-A35. Those I will not re-buy in Blu-Ray. But as soon as I get my PS3, I will be buying all my movies in Blu-Ray.

Darth Loki
02-20-2008, 09:34 AM
Can't wait for some great deals on some HD DVD's in the near future :chew

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 09:34 AM
I only have about 20 HD-DVD movies, so I will keep them and my HD-A35. Those I will not re-buy in Blu-Ray. But as soon as I get my PS3, I will be buying all my movies in Blu-Ray.

:rock :rock :rock :rock

IrishJedi
02-20-2008, 09:39 AM
I only have about 20 HD-DVD movies, so I will keep them and my HD-A35. Those I will not re-buy in Blu-Ray. But as soon as I get my PS3, I will be buying all my movies in Blu-Ray.

That's a perfectly reasonable stance.

I wonder if Toshiba might come out with an inexpensive HD DVD/Blu-ray hybrid player as a transition? It seems like that would be win-win for all, especially those consumers who did invest in HD DVD heavily. There really were some great HD DVD discs released.

Sick Boy 82
02-20-2008, 09:44 AM
There really were some great HD DVD discs released.

Also, in the beginning and for quite a while, HD had way better looking movies than Blu-Ray did. I saw some of the first ones on my buddies PS3 and they did not look any better than regular DVD's. Hell, some looked worse. That was half the reason for my going to HD-DVD. But now the Blu-Ray discs look amazing.

And yeah, Toshiba before you get out of the business, put out a HD-DVD/Blu-Ray hybrid with the HD-A2X processor!! Please!!!

mfoga
02-20-2008, 09:49 AM
Once again, I don't understand how one could be a fanboy. It's called an INVESTMENT. I'll say it again. When you invest close to, if not more than $1k into your hardware and movies, you want to see something succeed. I don't see how that's being a fanboy.

I wouldn't ever call that an investment. Thats a purchase. An investment is something that you put money into to get a financial gain. I understand that you spent a lot of money in hopes that you guessed correct, that you are happy but basically but to say its an investment is dumb, unless you invest to lose money then go a head an call it an investment because you accomplished your goal.

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 09:56 AM
I wouldn't ever call that an investment. Thats a purchase. An investment is something that you put money into to get a financial gain. I understand that you spent a lot of money in hopes that you guessed correct, that you are happy but basically but to say its an investment is dumb, unless you invest to lose money then go a head an call it an investment because you accomplished your goal.

First off, saying it's an investment is correct in my eyes, even though not for financial gain (or loss), it's still an investment in my collection for the purposes of enjoying what I have put my hard earned money into for many years to come.

Second, anyones statements or thoughts are theirs to have and say, and shouldn't be called dumb.

KitFisto
02-20-2008, 10:14 AM
Once again, I don't understand how one could be a fanboy. It's called an INVESTMENT. I'll say it again. When you invest close to, if not more than $1k into your hardware and movies, you want to see something succeed. I don't see how that's being a fanboy.

It has nothing to do with "I hope Blu_Ray wins because I invested in it". It has to do with the "IN YOUR FACE HD DVD" attitude that some display here. People invested in HD DVD too and it's not bad enough that they lose their investment, but they also get to listen to "HAHAHAHAHAH WE WIN, YOU LOSE" crap as well.

Darth Loki
02-20-2008, 10:20 AM
It has nothing to do with "I hope Blu_Ray wins because I invested in it". It has to do with the "IN YOUR FACE HD DVD" attitude that some display here. People invested in HD DVD too and it's not bad enough that they lose their investment, but they also get to listen to "HAHAHAHAHAH WE WIN, YOU LOSE" crap as well.

You just need to understand that some people feel the need to be a **** all the time.

There are both advantages and disadvantages to this outcome. All movies in one format is great. Some movies were waiting for a clear winner, they can start production now, again great. The loss of competition will hurt the consumer in more ways than one.

But we all know that both formats were about the same quality and the money that Sony through at Studios was the deciding factor here. Not to mention the PS3 being a great BR machine.

Had the 360 come standard with HD DVD capability, I don't think BR would've had a chance in this war.

I'm fine with BR winning, I just want to see a lot of those titles that were on the fence finally released.

IrishJedi
02-20-2008, 10:27 AM
Had the 360 come standard with HD DVD capability, I don't think BR would've had a chance in this war.

I agree 100%. But what's done is done. Since we now have a clear winner, it's time to for everyone to end the High School pep rally foolishness and have some solidarity behind Blu-ray (and also force them to be more consumer-friendly if they want to accomplish more than just killing off the other HD format).

KitFisto
02-20-2008, 10:28 AM
I agree 100%. But what's done is done. Since we now have a clear winner, it's time to end the foolishness and have some solidarity behind Blu-ray (and also force them to be more consumer-friendly if they want to accomplish more than just killing off the other HD format).

Oh I agree. I am behind BR. I have two players and about 25 movies. I just hope I can still get some kick ass deals on movies.

IrishJedi
02-20-2008, 10:29 AM
Oh I agree. I am behind BR. I have two players and about 25 movies. I just hope I can still get some kick ass deals on movies.

Indeed. :duff

Darth Loki
02-20-2008, 10:36 AM
Oh I agree. I am behind BR. I have two players and about 25 movies. I just hope I can still get some kick ass deals on movies.

Just bought 8 BR movies from Amazon for $107 shipped. Not too bad.

Deep Discount DVD has a lot of HD movies for like 60% off right now as well.

Natrix
02-20-2008, 10:36 AM
Thanks, guess I'll be keeping my eyes open for a deal on a PS3, any chance a new format is going to emerge out of this to challenge Blue Ray?

No, Blu is safe now. They are putting out the current maximum resolution that TV's can reproduce. There won't be another HD format until new TV's with even greater resolutions come out and be at an affordable price. I don't see that happening for a long time.

Jen
02-20-2008, 10:46 AM
Well I bought a HD DVD player and have around 20 HD DVD movies....and I'm fine with that. It's an upconverter so I can play all my old DVDs in it still....plus I watch a TON of movies and don't want to wear out my PS3.
:lol Now hopefully my player will last a long, long time because if that thing ever breaks down, then I will be screwed. :lol

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 11:01 AM
You just need to understand that some people feel the need to be a **** all the time.

There are both advantages and disadvantages to this outcome. All movies in one format is great. Some movies were waiting for a clear winner, they can start production now, again great. The loss of competition will hurt the consumer in more ways than one.

But we all know that both formats were about the same quality and the money that Sony through at Studios was the deciding factor here. Not to mention the PS3 being a great BR machine.

Had the 360 come standard with HD DVD capability, I don't think BR would've had a chance in this war.

I'm fine with BR winning, I just want to see a lot of those titles that were on the fence finally released.

All i'm saying (to Kit as well) is that if you search through the blu vs hd dvd thread, I got a lot of finger pointing and heckling at me due to liking Blu. So yes, I feel the need to heckle back now.

Jamal
02-20-2008, 11:14 AM
Lol, your all just as bad as eachother man do you all really care to the extent that you have to rip on eachother?

After reading through this thread ive seen a tennis match of sucked in's and told you so's

The ill Jedi
02-20-2008, 11:15 AM
All i'm saying (to Kit as well) is that if you search through the blu vs hd dvd thread, I got a lot of finger pointing and heckling at me due to liking Blu. So yes, I feel the need to heckle back now.
I'll back Bagels on that and if anything it was the HD backers being 'Dicks' to me and him whenever we said anything about Blu-Ray.

mfoga
02-20-2008, 11:16 AM
No, Blu is safe now. They are putting out the current maximum resolution that TV's can reproduce. There won't be another HD format until new TV's with even greater resolutions come out and be at an affordable price. I don't see that happening for a long time.

They are not safe for long, the future is going to be movies over the internet. This will have a huge effect on the rentals in the future and if they figure a way to get it so you can buy them in the same method kinda like Itunes and stuff like that do it will seriously hurt Blu-Ray in the future.

Darth Loki
02-20-2008, 11:18 AM
Lol, your all just as bad as eachother man do you all really care to the extent that you have to rip on eachother?

After reading through this thread ive seen a tennis match of sucked in's and told you so's

It's what we do :D

We do nothing but ***** and moan and make fun of each other because we're like brothers :grouphug

The ill Jedi
02-20-2008, 11:20 AM
It's what we do :D

We do nothing but ***** and moan and make fun of each other because we're like brothers :grouphug
Since we're like brothers, I'll say the same thing to you as I do to mine...*ahem* **** you. :D

KitFisto
02-20-2008, 11:21 AM
I'll back Bagels on that and if anything it was the HD backers being 'Dicks' to me and him whenever we said anything about Blu-Ray.

I get where you guys are coming from now. I just saw it as pointless gloating over something none of us could control at the time. It's all good.

Darth Loki
02-20-2008, 11:26 AM
Since we're like brothers, I'll say the same thing to you as I do to mine...*ahem* **** you. :D

Thanks bro :monkey2

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 11:36 AM
It's what we do :D

We do nothing but ***** and moan and make fun of each other because we're like brothers :grouphug

:lecture Truest statement on the boards.

IrishJedi
02-20-2008, 11:50 AM
I'm Irish. Therefore, I like to punch my brothers in the face.

:stooge :thwak :medic

:duff

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 11:52 AM
I'm Irish. Therefore, I like to punch my brothers in the face.

:stooge :thwak :medic

:duff

I'm Irish Italian. Therefore, I like to punch everybody :D

Darth Caedus
02-20-2008, 11:58 AM
I'm Irish Italian. Therefore, I like to punch everybody :D

I am also Irish Italian. Therefore, I love to get wasted while I'm eating pasta....mmmmmmmm, booze + pasta = Good Time

bagelsncheesey
02-20-2008, 12:25 PM
I am also Irish Italian. Therefore, I love to get wasted while I'm eating pasta....mmmmmmmm, booze + pasta = Good Time

You sir, are correct. :rock

DarthSid
02-20-2008, 03:48 PM
Well at least this has been decided in a short period of time, unlike the Betamax vs. VHS wars which dragged on for years.

darthviper107
02-20-2008, 06:03 PM
Currently it Paramount is still HD-DVD, they are still releasing HD-DVD movies at least through Sweeney Todd on April 1st(no joke).

Darth Loki
02-20-2008, 06:10 PM
Currently it Paramount is still HD-DVD, they are still releasing HD-DVD movies at least through Sweeney Todd on April 1st(no joke).

Those are probably already in production. I'm sure they're already working on BR formatting. At least I hope so :monkey1

SSC_Nerd
02-20-2008, 07:46 PM
Those are probably already in production. I'm sure they're already working on BR formatting. At least I hope so :monkey1

They'd be crazy not to. At the moment, I almost look at them as being crazy for being the only company left exclusive to HD DVD. What are they trying to do? Look valiant? They look like a bunch of fools. Maybe there are contracts, I dunno. But those were likely point moot when Toshiba gave up. Goodness knows they could probably have Transformers out pretty quick if they wanted to. They were probably pretty far in the production of it, and I highly doubt they would just dump all they did.

waxlrose
02-21-2008, 01:56 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ic60f3f2e7077b9b8dc969933f25fc601


All six major Hollywood studios are now in the Blu-ray Disc camp, a day after Toshiba has pulled the plug on HD DVD and Blu-ray became effectively the only next-gen game in town.

darthviper107
02-21-2008, 04:26 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ic60f3f2e7077b9b8dc969933f25fc601

Makes sense. I would expect an Indiana Jones box set by the end of the year, Star Wars and LOTR probably next year.

Seretur
02-21-2008, 05:45 AM
Back when they were double-format, Paramount actually did separate encodes for HD DVD and Blu-ray. They didn't get far with it, they were just learning; and Blades of Glory was to be one of their first titles with lossless audio on Blu-ray when it was suddenly pulled.

So I would hope they released a higher-bitrate encode of Transformers on Blu, and with lossless audio to boot. And nowadays they can replicate all the web-features on this format too, although it would be smarter to just include all that info on the disc itself using BD-Java and Bonus View.

For all the capability of Blu-ray, it still takes a lot of work to make a disc that actually uses all that capability. Even the studios who stayed with Blu-ray only aren't pushing the format to its limits yet.

The ill Jedi
02-21-2008, 08:23 AM
Makes sense. I would expect an Indiana Jones box set by the end of the year, Star Wars and LOTR probably next year.
:monkey2 :rock :monkey2 :rock :monkey2

Just read that, great news!!!

SSC_Nerd
02-21-2008, 09:04 AM
FANTASTIC!!!:chew:chew:chew:chew

I'm hoping that maybe by next week they'll throw some dates at us for movies. I need them to announce some big sellers from HD DVD. They're gonna blow some minds when they announce Bourne and Kong. It'll likely start with the biggest HD DVD sellers first, just to get things rolling.

bagelsncheesey
02-21-2008, 09:30 AM
VICTORY!

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darthviper107
02-29-2008, 12:19 AM
Paramount/Dreamworks is pulling it's HD-DVD releases after March 4th, including Sweeney Todd, Bee Movie, and There Will Be Blood.

SSC_Nerd
02-29-2008, 01:13 AM
Youchies. That has to hurt.

darthviper107
02-29-2008, 01:51 AM
Yeah, I was waiting for Sweeney Todd as a last HD-DVD purchase and now it's gone...:monkey2

Natrix
03-05-2008, 07:52 PM
Great...let the double dipping begin.


Here Comes the Reaming: Blu-ray Movie Rereleases Coming with BD-Live

We warned you that one reason to hold off on boarding the Blu train is that movies released in the past year without sweet BD-Live interactive features might be re-released. A lot of them. Today, we got first confirmation of this from Fox, which told us it'll be re-releasing Alien Vs. Predator later this year with a suite of new interactive features. And that's just the beginning.

Sony Pictures is also reaching in with both hands, though they're "not 100 percent sure [they're] going back on every disc" and will be looking at "different ways [they] can allow people to connect to a BD-Live site" for stuff that's already come out sans the BD Launcher. But they haven't figured that second part out yet.

To be fair, of all the Blu-ray studios, Fox is currently the most pumped about the interactive aspect—a big reason they helped build Blu along with Sony and friends. What Fox is adding doesn't make this a crap double dip, either: It's a multiplayer game woven into the film that you play as it progresses, attacking and killing other players in hopefully the most genuine film interaction to date. Not only do you upload your own avatar, it'll stay in memory and reappear when you buy future AVP titles. Sven Davison, Fox's VP of Worldwide Product Development and Production, said nothing he's seen on HD DVD has come close to this.

Davison also said Fox was looking at three other major franchises for a heavy interactive component. But other studios probably aren't going to be as scrupulous, because they primarily see interactivity as "icing on the cake" rather than potatoes to the 1080p-and-uncompressed-audio meat.

This of course opens the door for nearly everything already on BD to be double-dipped in the coming year—especially in cases like Warner's, since that studio has already launched more interactive versions of movies on HD DVD while simultaneously putting out lower-featured editions on BD. Would this have happened if the 2.0 spec had been mandatory from the start?

KitFisto
03-06-2008, 05:59 AM
I won't re-buy movies just for that crap.

King Darkness
03-06-2008, 07:02 AM
I won't re-buy movies just for that crap.


Me neither. I am buying BD for the picture and sound quality, all the other crap is really not that important to me.

Seretur
03-07-2008, 02:53 PM
I have 51 Blu-ray titles currently in hand, and as I don't plan on ever connecting my player (PS3 until a few weeks ago, Panasonic DMP-BD50 when it gets released) to the internet, ever ever, I really don't care about BD-Live.

I care about the beauty and clarity of lossless audio.

If studios decide to rerelease their lossy titles with lossless audio (here's looking at you, Warner), I'll be all over them. I've held off purchasing over two dozen titles because of the lack of lossless audio support on them.

And if you don't know what I'm talking about -- wait until you hear it.

Take it from an old artilleryman. ;)

Amanaman
03-07-2008, 03:07 PM
I'm holding off for HVD and UHD :emperor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Video

lcummins
03-07-2008, 03:13 PM
I'm holding off for HVD and UHD :emperor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Video

Great! Just about the time we get a nice collection of Blu-ray discs and have gotten used to HDTV... it will all start over again!!! :google

darthviper107
03-07-2008, 03:49 PM
Great! Just about the time we get a nice collection of Blu-ray discs and have gotten used to HDTV... it will all start over again!!! :google

Oh don't worry, they've planned it from the beginning. But at least this will be helpful. OLED displays are starting this year (amazing piece of technology) which have 4x the resolution of current displays so the increase in resolution will be worth it. It's just whether or not we go to the Theater resolution 2000p or straight to the IMAX resolution. I don't think the HVD discs could hold an IMAX sized film.

KitFisto
03-10-2008, 04:31 AM
I have to admit. As much as I am into home theater stuff at some point I will call it quites. I am not going to go spend 5-10K every 5 years on the "new" stuff.

1080P is fine with me.

lcummins
03-10-2008, 06:05 AM
Oh don't worry, they've planned it from the beginning. But at least this will be helpful. OLED displays are starting this year (amazing piece of technology) which have 4x the resolution of current displays so the increase in resolution will be worth it. It's just whether or not we go to the Theater resolution 2000p or straight to the IMAX resolution. I don't think the HVD discs could hold an IMAX sized film.

Oh, I know! It's called "planned obsolescence"! They never give you the best features, etc., right off the bat, but keep releasing bigger and better hoping everyone will upgrade.

Shadow King
03-10-2008, 06:24 AM
Thanks to Blu-Rays victory I get to enjoy $10.00 HD DVDs so hurray for saving some cash.

Reinhardt
03-10-2008, 06:28 AM
Thanks to Blu-Rays victory I get to enjoy $10.00 HD DVDs so hurray for saving some cash.

where have you been able to find HD-DVDs at that price?? Thanks!

bagelsncheesey
03-10-2008, 06:36 AM
I'm putting all my $$$ into my Blu-ray collection, so I could care less about the next format. That will be far in the future anyway... at least to the point where I could afford it.

Nitro
03-10-2008, 07:59 AM
I'm just not going to go crazy shelling out for new movie releases on Blu Ray like I once did for the standard DVD format (where I racked up about 1075 standard DVD's) . I'm just going to pickup whatever movies I like the best for that Blu Ray format. So far, I'm only up to 5 movies and I'm not making it a point to have an overbarren Blu Ray collection. I'll only upgrade my standard DVD copies as I see fit.

KitFisto
03-10-2008, 08:03 AM
I am not going to replace my entire DVD collection with BR disc. Do I Really need The Godfather in HD? I love the movie, but some movies warrant HD and others are fine in standard DVD. I'll replace LOTR, Star Wars and other special effects films, but not everything.

Shadow King
03-10-2008, 08:09 AM
where have you been able to find HD-DVDs at that price?? Thanks!

Fry's Electronics. Some are $9.95 and others are $14.95, but not all are that cheap. Eventually they will all be discounted to get rid of them.

King Darkness
03-10-2008, 08:13 AM
I am not going to replace my entire DVD collection with BR disc. Do I Really need The Godfather in HD? I love the movie, but some movies warrant HD and others are fine in standard DVD. I'll replace LOTR, Star Wars and other special effects films, but not everything.

Same here, there is no way I am gonna even attempt to try and replace 800 plus DVD on BD:lol

There are a very limited few old DVDs I will replace with BD, like LotR SW Indy and maybe 10-20 others. I am mainly gonna be getting new movies on BD.

Fubeca
03-10-2008, 09:57 AM
FYE here in Utah is going to sell HD DVD players for $89 soon...

carbo-fation
03-10-2008, 10:47 AM
There are a very limited few old DVDs I will replace with BD, like LotR SW Indy and maybe 10-20 others.

:lol Exact same thing I am doing. Only a select few on BD, the rest will remain on regular.

The Ringer
03-10-2008, 12:57 PM
I can't wait just a couple more days till I get my BD Player. What do you guys suggest if I am just getting the stand alone player and not the PS3?

Sick Boy 82
03-10-2008, 01:10 PM
Sorry you're not getting the PS3. How much are you looking to spend?

Cnet.com has their second best Blu-Ray player as the Panasonic DMP-BD30K.




Edit: Info if you are getting a PS3: Get the PS3, as it is the only player at this time that is upgradeable to Blu-Ray 2.0. All the other stand alones are only upgradeable to 1.1. Still rated as the best Blu-Ray player on Cnet.com too.

bagelsncheesey
03-10-2008, 01:12 PM
I can't wait just a couple more days till I get my BD Player. What do you guys suggest if I am just getting the stand alone player and not the PS3?

I suggest you get a PS3, for starters.

The Ringer
03-10-2008, 01:22 PM
I suggest you get a PS3, for starters.

The guy at Best Buy said if you get a standalone Blu-ray player the picture comes in better since the player is just for BD and not games. Can you notice a difference?

Mesa
03-10-2008, 01:28 PM
The guy at Best Buy said if you get a standalone Blu-ray player the picture comes in better since the player is just for BD and not games. Can you notice a difference?

I wouldn't trust anything a best buy sales rep tells you. He probably wants you to buy both the PS3 AND the separate blu-ray player for added commision.

http://www.bestbuysux.org/.

Sorry P!tu. I just can't stand that place. Nothing personal, just corporate greed that get's brainwashed into the employees. But there are always exceptions.

King Darkness
03-10-2008, 01:33 PM
The guy at Best Buy said if you get a standalone Blu-ray player the picture comes in better since the player is just for BD and not games. Can you notice a difference?

Total crap. The only thing that is gonna affect your picture quality is the TV and the cable you run.

Sick Boy 82
03-10-2008, 01:33 PM
I wouldn't trust anything a best buy sales rep tells you. He probably wants you to buy both the PS3 AND the separate blu-ray player for added commision.

http://www.bestbuysux.org/.

Sorry P!tu. I just can't stand that place. Nothing personal, just corporate greed that get's brainwashed into the employees. But there are always exceptions.

Hell yeah. I love me some BB. Best man store that there is other than going into a dressing room in VS with your woman.

But those asses tried to cheat me like $60 bucks on a 4GB SD card this weekend. I had to pull out my phone and get on their website to show them that the printout I had with me was true. They tried to sell me a line like "Well, the website is constantly change. I can't help you." Total BS. But I did get my SD card on the cheap.

Mesa
03-10-2008, 01:54 PM
Hell yeah. I love me some BB. Best man store that there is other than going into a dressing room in VS with your woman.

But those asses tried to cheat me like $60 bucks on a 4GB SD card this weekend. I had to pull out my phone and get on their website to show them that the printout I had with me was true. They tried to sell me a line like "Well, the website is constantly change. I can't help you." Total BS. But I did get my SD card on the cheap.

Did they shove a magazine subscription down your throat as well? And the 4 year warranty too.

Sick Boy 82
03-10-2008, 02:04 PM
Did they shove a magazine subscription down your throat as well? And the 4 year warranty too.

LOL, no. I'm sure they would have tired, but the cashier was to pissed after dealing with me for like 25 minutes!

And I wasn't even trying to be an ass. I was really polite and than thanked the guy when I left. I just wanted the real price, not the rip-off price they tried to serve me.

The Ringer
03-10-2008, 03:41 PM
Did they shove a magazine subscription down your throat as well? And the 4 year warranty too.

I hate BB warrantys!:cuss:cuss:cuss:rotfl

It would be cool to have a PS3 with all the sweet games coming this year. I will think about and maybe go with the PS3.

Mithrandier
03-10-2008, 03:47 PM
XBOX 360 TO GET BLUE RAY?
Microsoft looking to switch defunct HD DVD for Sony’s HD system
Posted 03/10/08
Sony Electronics US president has announced that Sony is in talks with Microsoft about offering a Blu-Ray drive for Xbox 360. It’ll be interesting to see if Sony goes through with the offer, since their Playstation 3 console is the Xbox’s main rival and having the winning HD system is a heck of a selling point.

Original link:http://www.wizarduniverse.com/031008xbox.html

nash
03-10-2008, 09:54 PM
I don't see Sony giving their BR drive to Microsoft...They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they did.

Fubeca
03-10-2008, 10:00 PM
:chew :chew :chew :chew:chew BLU-RAY WINS :chew :chew :chew :chew:chew

Sick Boy 82
03-10-2008, 11:05 PM
I don't see Sony giving their BR drive to Microsoft...They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they did.

Oh, they probably will. Do you know how much their license is worth? A crap ton of money!!! Sony will only stand to make more money. The more MS sells their drive with either the console or add-on drive, the more money they get. Win win for Sony. With the HD-DVD movies dead, people will have to buy Blu-Ray for their HD movies. Sony makes a +++++ ton of cash!

Mesa
03-10-2008, 11:19 PM
I wouldn't trust anything a best buy sales rep tells you. He probably wants you to buy both the PS3 AND the separate blu-ray player for added commision.

http://www.bestbuysux.org/.

Sorry P!tu. I just can't stand that place. Nothing personal, just corporate greed that get's brainwashed into the employees. But there are always exceptions.

WTF!!! I was at work, so I just entered this link from memory. Tried to see if it was valid, but of course it was blocked (= no no @ work). Anyway, I see now it looks like site was taken offline, probably by bestbuy's lawyers. They're worse than Walmart. Sorry for the diversion...

Now, about this blu-ray thing. I for one, am not happy about it. Think about all the other Sony proprietary technoligies that have come and gone: BETA, microdisks (I think was used for audio, same as CDR but smaller with less capacity, "smart" drive/thumbsticks, etc. etc. etc.). Plus, now Sony will own the monopoly. I'd much rather that be a US company. I was hoping the blu/HD war was going to go on for a little longer. But I admit, I knew the end was near for HD when I heard porn was adopting blu-ray as their medium. Porn leads the technological advance more than you'd think...

wofford29
03-11-2008, 12:11 AM
I don't see Sony giving their BR drive to Microsoft...They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they did.


It's not up to Sony. The BDA will make that call.

nash
03-11-2008, 12:13 AM
Oh, they probably will. Do you know how much their license is worth? A crap ton of money!!! Sony will only stand to make more money. The more MS sells their drive with either the console or add-on drive, the more money they get. Win win for Sony. With the HD-DVD movies dead, people will have to buy Blu-Ray for their HD movies. Sony makes a +++++ ton of cash!

I see your point, i guess I was looking at the small picture. I can agree that BR media and drives will always outsell game systems anyway.

darthviper107
03-11-2008, 12:17 AM
Sony isn't the sole owner/maker of Blu-Ray, they are a major contributor but they don't own it. Possibly the reason for Microsoft to be talking with Sony is to get the ability, or maybe to use one of Sony's Blu-Ray drives as the addon---the Xbox HD-DVD addon was actually a Toshiba drive. The drives aren't expensive, you can buy one for the computer right now for $150 so I'm guessing a Blu-Ray addon would be like $170 or so.

Sick Boy 82
03-11-2008, 12:18 AM
It's not up to Sony. The BDA will make that call.

That is true, because Sony was just one of the creators. Here's the complete list of board members that will be able to vote on this decision:

* Apple Inc.
* Dell Inc.
* Hewlett-Packard Company
* Hitachi, Ltd.
* LG Electronics
* Mitsubishi Electric
* Panasonic (Matsu++++a Electric)
* Pioneer Corporation
* Royal Philips Electronics
* Samsung Electronics
* Sharp Corporation
* Sony Corporation
* Sun Microsystems
* TDK Corporation
* Thomson SA
* Twentieth Century Fox
* Walt Disney Motion Pictures Group / Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment
* Warner Bros. Entertainment, Inc.

Lots of decision makers in this pile. MS just has to offer them the right price for the license and we got either a Blu-Ray drive internal 360 coming for this holiday season with the 45nm chips, or we will just get the add-on.

The Ringer
03-14-2008, 01:04 PM
Ok I got my Sony BD player today for only $200 brand spankin new! One question though guys why does it come with the old red, yellow, and white cables? That is a little bit of crap but can you tell me what cords are the best to get this thing hooked up to a tv? Maybe a HDMI cable?:confused:

darthviper107
03-14-2008, 01:12 PM
Well, the regular RCA (Red/Yellow/White) cables will usually have some extra conectors--I think another 3 RGB cables--that's for analog (non-digital) high-definition cables. The reason it still has the old standard-definition cables is if you might want to play your movies on a regular TV like if you didn't have those movies on regular DVD.

HDMI is great-one simple connector that carries both HD audio and video, it's digital which means the quality can't be affected by the quality of the cable (don't get suckered into buying expensive cables).

Darth Caedus
03-14-2008, 01:12 PM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/HDDVD_vs_bluray.gif

nash
03-14-2008, 02:31 PM
thats freakin hilarious! :rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

OSCORP
03-14-2008, 05:59 PM
Anyone have superman the movie on blu-ray? i was wondering how it looks.

thx.

Vader AL
03-14-2008, 06:10 PM
Ok I got my Sony BD player today for only $200 brand spankin new! One question though guys why does it come with the old red, yellow, and white cables? That is a little bit of crap but can you tell me what cords are the best to get this thing hooked up to a tv? Maybe a HDMI cable?:confused:

i bought mine here...top notch/fast shipping and recommended by AVS forum...oh yeah and they are cheap.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3992&seq=1&format=2

Gruson
03-14-2008, 06:15 PM
Anyone have superman the movie on blu-ray? i was wondering how it looks.

thx.

Top notch and must have IMO. I just wish they would released the original (Lester) part 2 on BD.

OSCORP
03-14-2008, 07:27 PM
Nice, cause i noticed it was pretty good on dvd was wondering if it was worth it for the blu-ray pick up!

The Ringer
03-14-2008, 08:02 PM
i bought mine here...top notch/fast shipping and recommended by AVS forum...oh yeah and they are cheap.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3992&seq=1&format=2

Does it look good with that? That is a dang good price and also how do you get your player to play through your surrond sound?

Bannister
03-14-2008, 08:05 PM
Does it look good with that? That is a dang good price and also how do you get your player to play through your surrond sound?
Yes they look good. Those $50.00 HDMI cables at Best Buy are bull++++.

Vader AL
03-14-2008, 08:08 PM
Does it look good with that? That is a dang good price and also how do you get your player to play through your surrond sound?

it's the best video cable available, if your t.v. has the plug for it. it also carries the digital sound too(carries video and audio signals) but only to whatever it is plugged into. you would just run it from the ps3 into your stereo receiver and then another cable running from the stereo receiver "hdmi out" to your t.v. and get the best sound and video. this will give you sound from the t.v. and the receiver.

i have the hdmi cable running from my Direct t.v. box to my t.v. so i'm getting the best picture and an optical cable from the Direct t.v. box to the stereo receiver for the sound. i'm not sure, unless you have a really new stereo receiver, you'll be able to tell much difference on the sound side from the sound the HDMI cable is carrying and the sound the optical cable is carrying.

but if your t.v. has HDMI plugs use that cable fo' sho' just for the video quality.

Kabukiman
03-14-2008, 08:44 PM
i bought mine here...top notch/fast shipping and recommended by AVS forum...oh yeah and they are cheap.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3992&seq=1&format=2

Seconded. Monoprice.com is the way to go, I love those guys. When you deal with a digital signal (such as HDMI) there is no signal loss, therefor no reason to spend insane amounts of money on cables. They offer digital coaxial, and audio optical if you don't have HDMI on your surround.

Vader AL
03-19-2008, 06:43 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat147600050717&type=category

An Important Message from
Best Buy for HD DVD Player Owners
For months, there has been much debate surrounding the two competing high-definition video formats: Toshiba's HD DVD and Sony's Blu-ray Disc. Recently, Toshiba announced that they will no longer produce HD DVD players, and movie studios have decided not to release new titles in the HD DVD format.

Exciting news if you bought your HD DVD player from Best Buy
As the owner of an HD DVD player, you may have concerns about these developments. At Best Buy, we are dedicated to making sure you always have the right technology for you. That's why we're offering you a complimentary $50 Best Buy gift card for each HD DVD player you purchased from Best Buy before February 23, 2008. (See details and qualifying models.) Use the gift card to treat yourself to anything you want in our stores or online. Most qualifying customers will automatically receive their complimentary gift card by mail in the coming weeks. If you qualify and haven't received yours by May 1, 2008, please call us at 1-888-BEST-BUY to verify your eligibility (have your receipt handy, if possible).

Good news (even if you didn't buy from us)
Be assured that your HD DVD player will continue to play existing HD DVD titles (and upconvert standard DVDs to near-HD quality) as it always has. If you purchased a Best Buy service plan with your HD DVD player, we will continue to honor it for the life of the plan. If, however, you wish to trade in your HD DVD player and HD DVDs, we offer a convenient way to do so via our Best Buy Trade-In Center. Beginning March 21, visit BestBuyTradeIn.com to get an instant estimate of the value of your HD DVD player and movies. See below for further information, along with additional resources that we hope you'll find helpful as you examine your options.

The ill Jedi
03-21-2008, 10:18 AM
PS3 BD-Live Update Coming This Month

Sony Computer Entertainment has announced that they will issue a firmware update later this month that will enable the PlayStation 3 (PS3) to playback BD-Live (Profile v2.0) Blu-ray movie discs. BD-Live allows your Blu-ray player (in this case, a PS3) to access additional content via an Internet connection. Some already revealed BD-Live features include downloading related movie trailers, sending a ringtone to your cellphone, and playing interactive online games.

Scott A. Steinberg, vice president, product marketing, SCEA commented, "With Blu-ray established as the high-definition optical disc standard, more consumers are ready to jump in and take advantage of everything the format offers. Whether you want to download movie extras, send ringtones to your phone, or play interactive games, BD-LIVE will offer exciting new ways to enjoy a Blu-ray movie. With these regular firmware updates and future-proofed technology, SCEA is making the 10-year lifecycle of PS3 possible."

In conjunction with the release of this BD-Live upgrade, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment will release 'Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story' and 'The 6th Day', both of which will feature exclusive BD-Live content to show off the potential of the upgrade. Additionally, films such as Lionsgate's 'War' and 'Saw IV', which were released earlier this year, already have BD-Live features right on the disc.

With this upgrade, the PS3 will become the first available BD-Live Blu-ray player on the market, living up to its position as the ultimate home entertainment system. The first standalone BD-Live Blu-ray player will be the Panasonic DMP-BD50, which is expected to be released this May.

Full Upgrade Details
BD-Live (Profile v2.0) Upgrade

"Resume play" will enable PS3 system to start playing a Blu-ray disc and DVD at the point it was stopped, even if the disc had been removed. (*1)
"Audio Output Device" will be a new Remote Play setting, enabling PSP to serve as a remote control for music played through PS3.
PS3 system's Internet browser will be enhanced: Video files directly linked from a Web page will be able to be streamed, and the browser's view speed will be improved.
DivX and WMV format videos that are larger than 2GB will be playable.
"Mosquito Noise Reduction" will be added as an AV setting in the control panel of the DVD/BD player for improved movie playback. (*2)

*1 BD-J format disc is not supported.
*2 BD discs recorded with BDMV format are not supported.

BadMoon
03-21-2008, 10:24 AM
"Resume play" will enable PS3 system to start playing a Blu-ray disc and DVD at the point it was stopped, even if the disc had been removed. (*1)


It is about time! :rock:rock:rock

Vader AL
03-21-2008, 11:38 AM
It is about time! :rock:rock:rock

no kidding, such a simple thing but neither BR or HD had that capability.

Sick Boy 82
03-21-2008, 12:24 PM
no kidding, such a simple thing but neither BR or HD had that capability.


My HD-A35 has that capability. I didn't know that the PS3 didn't even have that though. My 360 does, so that is weird. I figured that was kinda standard in all DVD players in general. :confused:

The ill Jedi
03-21-2008, 12:55 PM
It is about time! :rock:rock:rock

no kidding, such a simple thing but neither BR or HD had that capability.
It's funny 'cause the PSP did that with UMD's and I thought all along, "Why the hell doesn't something as sophisticated as the PS3 do this?". Mine is already doing it though, weird. It happened with I Am Legend BD the other day.

SOLIDSNAKE
03-21-2008, 10:31 PM
BLUE RAY #1

bagelsncheesey
03-21-2008, 11:36 PM
PS3 BD-Live Update Coming This Month

Sony Computer Entertainment has announced that they will issue a firmware update later this month that will enable the PlayStation 3 (PS3) to playback BD-Live (Profile v2.0) Blu-ray movie discs. BD-Live allows your Blu-ray player (in this case, a PS3) to access additional content via an Internet connection. Some already revealed BD-Live features include downloading related movie trailers, sending a ringtone to your cellphone, and playing interactive online games.

Scott A. Steinberg, vice president, product marketing, SCEA commented, "With Blu-ray established as the high-definition optical disc standard, more consumers are ready to jump in and take advantage of everything the format offers. Whether you want to download movie extras, send ringtones to your phone, or play interactive games, BD-LIVE will offer exciting new ways to enjoy a Blu-ray movie. With these regular firmware updates and future-proofed technology, SCEA is making the 10-year lifecycle of PS3 possible."

In conjunction with the release of this BD-Live upgrade, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment will release 'Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story' and 'The 6th Day', both of which will feature exclusive BD-Live content to show off the potential of the upgrade. Additionally, films such as Lionsgate's 'War' and 'Saw IV', which were released earlier this year, already have BD-Live features right on the disc.

With this upgrade, the PS3 will become the first available BD-Live Blu-ray player on the market, living up to its position as the ultimate home entertainment system. The first standalone BD-Live Blu-ray player will be the Panasonic DMP-BD50, which is expected to be released this May.

Full Upgrade Details
BD-Live (Profile v2.0) Upgrade

"Resume play" will enable PS3 system to start playing a Blu-ray disc and DVD at the point it was stopped, even if the disc had been removed. (*1)
"Audio Output Device" will be a new Remote Play setting, enabling PSP to serve as a remote control for music played through PS3.
PS3 system's Internet browser will be enhanced: Video files directly linked from a Web page will be able to be streamed, and the browser's view speed will be improved.
DivX and WMV format videos that are larger than 2GB will be playable.
"Mosquito Noise Reduction" will be added as an AV setting in the control panel of the DVD/BD player for improved movie playback. (*2)

*1 BD-J format disc is not supported.
*2 BD discs recorded with BDMV format are not supported.

:rock :rock :rock :rock

bagelsncheesey
03-21-2008, 11:36 PM
BLUE RAY #1

Thats BLU-RAY...

Fubeca
03-21-2008, 11:41 PM
Ok so everytime I get a new Blu-ray Disc it talks about updating my player. my player is not hooked up to the internet, anyone have any good ideas how I can do that?

Vader AL
03-21-2008, 11:48 PM
Ok so everytime I get a new Blu-ray Disc it talks about updating my player. my player is not hooked up to the internet, anyone have any good ideas how I can do that?

try the website of the BR player's manufacturer. they should have it available to download and burn to disc.

Darth Caedus
03-22-2008, 01:35 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36102

Coming to BluRay....MONSTER SQUAD :rock:rock:rock

darthviper107
03-22-2008, 04:02 PM
For people who bought their HD-DVD player from Best Buy before February 23rd--you can get a $50 gift card back from them, if you ordered online or used the rewards card at the store you'll automatically get one sent to you, otherwise you have to contact them.

Pretty good deal--plus I still get to keep the player.

Natrix
03-24-2008, 07:23 PM
PS3 BD-Live Update Coming This Month

Sony Computer Entertainment has announced that they will issue a firmware update later this month that will enable the PlayStation 3 (PS3) to playback BD-Live (Profile v2.0) Blu-ray movie discs. BD-Live allows your Blu-ray player (in this case, a PS3) to access additional content via an Internet connection. Some already revealed BD-Live features include downloading related movie trailers, sending a ringtone to your cellphone, and playing interactive online games.

Scott A. Steinberg, vice president, product marketing, SCEA commented, "With Blu-ray established as the high-definition optical disc standard, more consumers are ready to jump in and take advantage of everything the format offers. Whether you want to download movie extras, send ringtones to your phone, or play interactive games, BD-LIVE will offer exciting new ways to enjoy a Blu-ray movie. With these regular firmware updates and future-proofed technology, SCEA is making the 10-year lifecycle of PS3 possible."

In conjunction with the release of this BD-Live upgrade, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment will release 'Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story' and 'The 6th Day', both of which will feature exclusive BD-Live content to show off the potential of the upgrade. Additionally, films such as Lionsgate's 'War' and 'Saw IV', which were released earlier this year, already have BD-Live features right on the disc.

With this upgrade, the PS3 will become the first available BD-Live Blu-ray player on the market, living up to its position as the ultimate home entertainment system. The first standalone BD-Live Blu-ray player will be the Panasonic DMP-BD50, which is expected to be released this May.

Full Upgrade Details
BD-Live (Profile v2.0) Upgrade

"Resume play" will enable PS3 system to start playing a Blu-ray disc and DVD at the point it was stopped, even if the disc had been removed. (*1)
"Audio Output Device" will be a new Remote Play setting, enabling PSP to serve as a remote control for music played through PS3.
PS3 system's Internet browser will be enhanced: Video files directly linked from a Web page will be able to be streamed, and the browser's view speed will be improved.
DivX and WMV format videos that are larger than 2GB will be playable.
"Mosquito Noise Reduction" will be added as an AV setting in the control panel of the DVD/BD player for improved movie playback. (*2)

*1 BD-J format disc is not supported.
*2 BD discs recorded with BDMV format are not supported.

Update is available NOW!!

Downloading as I type..

SSC_Nerd
03-24-2008, 07:38 PM
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36102

Coming to BluRay....MONSTER SQUAD :rock:rock:rock

That would be awesome.

Waht interests me more is the talk on Night of the Creeps. About 4 years ago, I was watching the movie channels late one night and fell in love with the movie. I immediately went online to see where I could buy it, and was immediately dissapointed. Things don't look any better, but it's interesting to see what the problem was.

The ill Jedi
03-25-2008, 07:18 AM
Update is available NOW!!

Downloading as I type..
I checked and it's still v.2.17, do you have a link?

EDIT: Nevermind, found it.

The ill Jedi
03-27-2008, 11:43 AM
Best Buy cuts select Blu-ray movie titles to $19.99
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Posted Mar 27th 2008 12:58PM by Brian White
Filed under: Products and services, Amazon.com (AMZN), Best Buy (BBY)

Not only is Best Buy, Inc. (NYSE: BBY) moving swiftly to kick out the dead HD DVD format from its store shelves, but now the largest consumer electronics retailer in the U.S. is starting to aggressively price the victor format of the next-generation DVD -- Blu-ray.

Although there is now just one next-generation DVD format available, consumers still haven't ponied up tons of cash to buy Blu-ray hardware players and accompanying $29,99 Blu-ray movie titles. Why? Standard DVD is good enough for most of us.

That is, until the prices come down on the players and the movies themselves. Blu-ray players are still pricey at $399 and up in most cases, but Best Buy is taking the sting out of some movie prices by cutting many popular titles to $19.99 each. Psychologically, that gets Blu-ray pricing on some level of parity with normal $14.99 and $16.99 DVD prices. Even some new releases on standard DVD start at $19.99 as well.

And not only that, online competitor Amazon.com (NASDAQ: AMZN) started offering more than 100 Blu-ray titles this week at up to 47% off. Is this the start of aggressive Blu-ray movie pricing meant to finally spur sales of the new DVD format? Now that the competing HD DVD format is out of the way, the path becomes much easier for retailers. Perhaps aggressive movie titles will actually cause the more expensive hardware to move faster off shelves.

The ill Jedi
04-22-2008, 01:25 PM
It's a nice start, now all we need is for Paramount to get on the ball. :tap
Universal Releases Blu-ray Plans

Posted April 17, 2008 08:12 AM by Josh

Universal Studios Home Entertainment has released their plans for shifting their high definition focus from the defunct HD DVD format to Blu-ray. Beginning in July, Universal plans to release all new home video releases on Blu-ray day-and-date with their DVD releases. The first title receiving such treatment will be the Neil Marshall film 'Doomsday'.

That title will be followed by a slew of upcoming films, including 'The Incredible Hulk', 'Wanted', 'Hellboy II: The Golden Army', 'Mamma Mia!', and 'The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor'. You will notice that these films have not yet been released theatrically, meaning dates for their home video release are still a ways off.

On the catalog front, the first three Universal titles will be 'The Mummy', 'The Mummy Returns', and 'The Scorpion King', all which have been given a release date of July 22nd. No specs have been announced for these titles, nor any indication if they would be direct ports from the HD DVD or receive new transfers.

Also on slate for 2008 will be 'American Gangster', 'Knocked Up', 'The 40 Year Old Virgin', 'Miami Vice'*, 'End of Days', 'U-571', and 'Land of the Dead'. More catalog releases are planned, but were not announced at this time.
*For you Bagels! ;)

bagelsncheesey
04-22-2008, 01:30 PM
It's a nice start, now all we need is for Paramount to get on the ball. :tap
*For you Bagels! ;)

My nakka!!!!!

:monkey5:monkey5:monkey5:monkey5

darthviper107
04-22-2008, 01:59 PM
Now if only Paramount would release Sweeney Todd and Cloverfield on Blu-Ray.

Sick Boy 82
04-22-2008, 02:09 PM
Now if only Paramount would release Sweeney Todd and Cloverfield on Blu-Ray.

Now that you mention Cloverfield, I keep seeing the release commercial, but it only talks about "Get it on DVD". They usually always say get it on DVD and HD-DVD and/or BLu-Ray today or Next Tuesday. But Cloverfield has not at all mentioned getting it on either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, which worries me that we will not be getting any version of it in HD for awhile.

darthviper107
04-22-2008, 02:19 PM
Now that you mention Cloverfield, I keep seeing the release commercial, but it only talks about "Get it on DVD". They usually always say get it on DVD and HD-DVD and/or BLu-Ray today or Next Tuesday. But Cloverfield has not at all mentioned getting it on either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, which worries me that we will not be getting any version of it in HD for awhile.

It's a Paramount release, it was planned as an HD-DVD exclusive but the format change happened before they announced and so they had to scrap the release plan so it is only released on regular DVD too. Same for Sweeney Todd, except they had that announced as an HD-DVD exclusive and canceled it shortly afterward.

Sick Boy 82
04-22-2008, 02:24 PM
I just figured they would at least release it on HD-DVD and then do a BR release when they changed their factories over. Oh well. Sucks!

KitFisto
04-22-2008, 02:27 PM
Nevermind ...already covered

The ill Jedi
04-25-2008, 04:43 PM
Hey Guys, just a heads up...

Target has a ton of titles on sale right now for $19.99, this week I picked up: Commando, Ghost Rider, Unbreakable, I, Robot, Independence Day, The Rock and Con Air for that price.

Other titles they had: Predator, Casino Royale, Pirates of the Caribbean 1, 2 & 3, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven and a bunch more.

zedex9r
04-26-2008, 02:57 AM
Hey Mate

Sounds like you picked up some real nice titles there. Casino Royale was actually the bonus Blu-ray movie with the PAL PS3 launch and it was a very very good looking Blu-ray to show of the high def of the new format.

It would be nice to get a multi region Blu-ray to pick up movies that aren't available here yet, but on the plus side, with the "War" finally over many more Blu-ray movies are getting released quicker over here.

Now you have to find time to watch them all :p

Darth Cruel
04-29-2008, 11:49 AM
I had actually predicted that blue-ray would lose. I guess I just didn't have enough confidence that people in general were smart enough to make the better format win. I figured they would fall into the "good-enough-and-a-lot-cheaper" hole.

My faith in humanity is not wholly restored. But this is a tiny little gesture in the right direction.

Blue Ray is clearly better so I am glad it prevailed.

bagelsncheesey
04-29-2008, 12:26 PM
I had actually predicted that blue-ray would lose. I guess I just didn't have enough confidence that people in general were smart enough to make the better format win. I figured they would fall into the "good-enough-and-a-lot-cheaper" hole.

My faith in humanity is not wholly restored. But this is a tiny little gesture in the right direction.

Blue Ray is clearly better so I am glad it prevailed.

Good to have you aboard.

and it's BLU-RAY.

tomandshell
04-29-2008, 06:08 PM
Paramount is moving fast--they just announced Blu-ray editions of Bee Movie, Cloverfield, and There Will Be Blood. And they will be released in just three weeks! I will be getting all three on May 20th.

UTtoyfan
04-29-2008, 09:46 PM
Cloverfied is a must buy for me. I just watched it on standard DVD last week, and was wishing they'd put out the Blu-ray version soon. Paramount granted my wish!:banana

UTtoyfan
04-29-2008, 09:47 PM
Cloverfield atually comes out in June. So we have to wait a little while Tom :monkey2

May 20th: Bee Movie, Next and Face/Off
Bee Movie: Special features include "Barry's Trivia Track" with pop up trivia, changeable menus, Build-A-Bee avatar creation, lost scenes, alternate endings and more.
Next: Special features include a making of featurette, "Visualizing the Next Move", the Next Grand Idea" and Two Minutes in the Future with Jessica Biel".
Face/Off: Special features include multiple commentaries, deleted scenes, alternate ending, making of and more.

June 3rd: Cloverfield and There Will Be Blood
Cloverfield: Special features include feature-length "Special Investigation Mode" with added details about the film, directory commentary, making of featurettes, deleted scenes, alternate endings with commentary and more.
There Will Be Blood: Special features include a slideshow of vintage photos selected by director Paul Thomas, deleted scenes, a featurette on dailies and more.

June 24th: The Spiderwick Chronicles (first day and date release)
The Spiderwick Chronicles: special features include behind the scenes featurettes, an exploration of the Spiderwick world, and exclusive peek inside Arthur Spiderwick's Field Guide and much more.

SSC_Nerd
04-29-2008, 09:48 PM
They're getting the ball rolling pretty damn quick. Cloverfiled in 3 weeks. Awesome.

Yippy
04-29-2008, 09:48 PM
I haven't seen Cloverfield or There Will Be Blood yet, so I'm very pleased that they are releasing them on blu soon. Thanks for the news, Tom. :banana

tomandshell
04-29-2008, 10:03 PM
Cloverfield atually comes out in June. So we have to wait a little while Tom :monkey2

Dang! The first news flash I read made no mention of special features and said May 20th. Still, that's not too much of a wait.

Universal announced a few weeks ago that their first BR titles will arrive in July/August, I believe. Paramount is making them look bad.