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pitchin4eva
07-01-2005, 03:37 PM
LINK (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=070105journey&source=070105news)

:( :( :(

leebgb
07-01-2005, 03:40 PM
Wow, a Mumak and Peter Jackson as Corsair!!!!!!!!!

That Mumak looks awesome!

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 03:43 PM
:banana This is great, I guess there is really NOTHING more to speculate over at all. :dunno

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 03:44 PM
We knew this was coming sadly enough. Well, some of us did anyways. Its time to be honest I don't want to see this turn into an action figure line with 97 of each person. Its been a fun ride.

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 03:44 PM
I really like that PJ got a statue, I will be getting this for sure. :bow

Wetaholic
07-01-2005, 03:45 PM
Well that's cool that they'll give us the Mumak, bout time, but Peter Jackson as the Corsair? Nah, it's not fitting, he needed to be in his shorts and t-shirt wearing his glasses and sat in a Director's chair, that would have been a sure-fire buy!

I'm disappointed, it's all because of the King Kong line that Weta are doing, that's why I am convinced! They've cut this line off long before it was due to end, and I'm miffed with them!

What about FARAMIR, DENETHOR, GOLLUM and a stand-alone SAM? I'm very unhappy, I think I might start selling some of my statues, not much point in keeping them now that I know I won't be able to collect all the ones I wanted. and prices are likely to sky-rocket following this announcement!

Who agrees? It's a sad day.
>: >: >: >: >: >: >: >: >:

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 03:46 PM
This doesn't mean we won't see those. These are not the last pieces to be announced.

jesseawilson
07-01-2005, 03:48 PM
At the SDCC we will see the end of the line I believe. What is there will be the last to be announced. MAYBE one last hurahh at the end of '05 but yes boys and girls it is just about over.


Jesse

Wetaholic
07-01-2005, 03:49 PM
Well I certainly hope they're not, we'll find out after Comic Con I guess, it gave the impression that Mumak, Amon Hen and PJ are the last, but maybe not. I live in hope!

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 03:49 PM
Can we be sure Josh, that these are not the last of the last?

I completely agree, to have a Mumak and not Faramir, Denethor and Eomer would be a crime. :skull

Wetaholic
07-01-2005, 03:49 PM
OH GOD! I wanted EOMER on Steed with the spear...this is a travesty!

leebgb
07-01-2005, 03:49 PM
Josh is right. It says that the line will conclude with the PJ statue and that there will also be a Mumak released based on the fans request. It did not say that these were the only 2 products being produced before the line ends.

If we could just get a Faramir statue, Denethor bust and Barad-dur, the line would feel complete.

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 03:49 PM
Can we be sure Josh, that these are not the last of the last?

Yes, I am 110% sure of that.

pordey2
07-01-2005, 03:50 PM
:thud
ohhhhhhh

I'm soooooooooo excited!

Gruson
07-01-2005, 03:51 PM
I believe these are the last two pieces.

Oh well. They could have and should have made a LOT more pieces.

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 03:52 PM
This article seems to make it sound as though this is it:

www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-b...070105news (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=070105journey&source=070105news)

But I like your confidence Josh! :p

leebgb
07-01-2005, 03:54 PM
I'm sorry but there's no way I can believe that SideShow would be at SDCC during the last 6 months of the LOTR line and have not one new LOTR announcement. I don't believe it at all.

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 03:55 PM
These will be the last two pieces in the line. They still have stuff at SDCC to announce and probably will have a few more things for the rest of the year. They are going out with a bang. Don't get your heads down.

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 03:56 PM
I hope you are right Josh, I can't imagine why SS would announce these now with SDCC being right around the corner. It doesn't completely add up. :dunno

leebgb
07-01-2005, 03:56 PM
Right on Josh. :dance

I'm just hoping for a Barad-dur. PLEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dstephan
07-01-2005, 03:59 PM
Sorry to torpedo your balloons, but this is it - these are the last 3 pieces. It's pretty clear in the press release - will conclude the line with the PJ statue.

Nothing new to announce at SDCC.

Nada


Finis
:eye

RodLonghi
07-01-2005, 03:59 PM
So that's it. By the way they said on the title "Sideshow / Weta Lord of the Rings Collectible Line concludes" , I agree that it seems those two are the last ones of the line.

That's sad , I was expecting at least 5 new statues, well ,Comic Con will be the answer. Hope I'm wrong

Viking28
07-01-2005, 04:02 PM
I agree with Josh on the Comic Con releases, come on we need the Argonaths environment and the ROTK print!

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 04:03 PM
:puke

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 04:04 PM
Dave you are probably right I fear. :sick

*Now it is off to buy an Eomer bust??!!* :poke

ChrisfromSideshow
07-01-2005, 04:04 PM
Hi Guys,

Just wanted to clear up things before they got out of hand.

The pieces we announced in the newsletter (Amon Hen, Mumak of Harad and PJ as a Corsair) are the final pieces in the line. We will not be producing any other pieces.

I guess this means I won't get my 1/32000th scale Denethor companion piece or the Charwen exclusive anytime soon.

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 04:06 PM
That settles it, thanks for clearing things up Chris.

RodLonghi
07-01-2005, 04:06 PM
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! :sick :sick :sick

Gruson
07-01-2005, 04:06 PM
Good, I am glad it's over.

Now PLEASE start the 1/4 scale LOTR line!!!! :)

pitchin4eva
07-01-2005, 04:06 PM
man..........i'm really sad now................no baradur

RodLonghi
07-01-2005, 04:08 PM
.. and no Treebeard statue.

pitchin4eva
07-01-2005, 04:10 PM
and no Rohirrim on steed..........crazy................no faramir......outrageous........sorry but I'm getting a bit angry now

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 04:11 PM
I really can't imagine not having Faramir and Eomer in statue form. :x

leebgb
07-01-2005, 04:15 PM
At least Eomer got a bust. There is nothing in the line that represents Faramir other than his helm. I can't believe there is no Faramir statue or bust. Unbelievable for such a major character to be overlooked. :eek :thwak

THE WARG BEAST
07-01-2005, 04:17 PM
Now bring on the Star Wars 1/4 scale SS :dance :banana :dance :banana

WG :lvader

The Dwimmerlaik
07-01-2005, 04:18 PM
Finally the end of the world is here :( .

Dassy
07-01-2005, 04:23 PM
So nothing new at SDCC then,I can see my life returning.....:eek

Dassy
07-01-2005, 04:24 PM
and my CC:rollin

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 04:24 PM
Finally my credit card can breathe again, in a way it is somewhat of a relief. :eek

THE WARG BEAST
07-01-2005, 04:24 PM
It had to end sometime :dunno

WG :lvader

TURINS BANE
07-01-2005, 04:25 PM
Well it was awesome wile it lasted guys.:toast :grouphug .

I can't believe they have just given imported pieces like Faramir the cold shoulder though.
I mean the guy doesn't even have a bust,:( His Brother has both.

Looks like I won't see My great Eagles environment then after all.:\

Finrod
07-01-2005, 04:26 PM
No Eomer statue :(

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 04:28 PM
So there is:

Orc Warrior, Orc Brute, 3 Gandalfs, 2 Legos, 2 Gimlis, 3 Aragorns, 2 Balrogs, etc and no Eomer or Faramir - I just don't know how to explain it?! :dunno

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 04:28 PM
When 2+2=5 Maybe we aren't getting all the info :)

Dassy
07-01-2005, 04:30 PM
You saying i can relax J?:smokin

leebgb
07-01-2005, 04:31 PM
8o What exactly are you getting at? 8o

TURINS BANE
07-01-2005, 04:33 PM
Your right Josh, they could be conveniently lying to us. until SDCC.?;)

RodLonghi
07-01-2005, 04:33 PM
I think he means where are all those 200 pieces that PJ said would be done.

gOzum
07-01-2005, 04:34 PM
Time to let the cat out of the bag... Chris says it's over. :thud

I am sad there is no Eomer on Firefoot. :(

jesseawilson
07-01-2005, 04:36 PM
The pieces we announced in the newsletter (Amon Hen, Mumak of Harad and PJ as a Corsair) are the final pieces in the line. We will not be producing any other pieces.


So these are the final pieces in the line........ SO that could mean: here are the last three pages of the book. The ones in the middle still exist though, we are just going to show you them at a later time. ;)




Jesse

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 04:39 PM
Here's to a fool's hope of Eomer, Faramir and Denethor! :toast Cheers folks, even if it is just "a fools' hope."

Gunner1973
07-01-2005, 04:39 PM
This has got to be a wind up! I mean, a wounded orc bust and a rohirrim soldier bust but no representation of denethor and faramir!?!? :bonk
I cant honestly believe they would'nt Have some kind of statue or bust of all the main characters. If this is the case Sideshow have gone way down in my estimation.

gOzum
07-01-2005, 04:40 PM
We will not be producing any other pieces.

This says to me, there are no other pieces being produced... not before, or after the announced 3.

Dassy
07-01-2005, 04:40 PM
Agree with u Jesse! crafty SS:grouphug

leebgb
07-01-2005, 04:40 PM
I hope so.:\

Lookin4Precious
07-01-2005, 04:40 PM
:toast :sick

jesseawilson
07-01-2005, 04:41 PM
Shhhhhhh don't let on that we figured them out..... ;)



Jesse

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 04:41 PM
Thats what I'm saying. Keep some hope.

gOzum
07-01-2005, 04:42 PM
I hope so too, but the context of this comment, was Chris responding to our hype that there may be more pieces yet to come... :|

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 04:43 PM
Chris seemed equally disappointed about not getting a Charwen. :rollin

Dassy
07-01-2005, 04:44 PM
One more point.
I think Chris or SS should put us straight.

Think of the people who are really saddend by the fact their Fav piece has not been made..and they cancel their Pre-Orders....to find out later all was not it seemed!:help

gOzum
07-01-2005, 04:44 PM
:mwaha

dstephan
07-01-2005, 04:50 PM
Keep digging, there's a pony in there somewhere!





Chris HAS set us straight. It's not a trick, an alternative reality nor does Rod Serling have control of your poly supply -

The fat lady has sung.

:vik

TURINS BANE
07-01-2005, 04:53 PM
This has got to be a wind up! I mean, a wounded orc bust and a rohirrim soldier bust but no representation of denethor and faramir

I know if i'ts true it is a bit of a joke.:\ If i'ts not a joke though
the truth should be said now. there's going to be a lot of unhappy people that didn't get there statue.

jesseawilson
07-01-2005, 04:54 PM
Whats freaking halarious is that the more it gets stated that it's over by Chris and Dave the more I uncontrollably start to laugh. For some reason my mind wont believe its over. It's pretty funny actually. It just seems to keep being a bigger and bigger conspericy in my warped little head.



Jesse :lol

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 04:55 PM
Well, the why announce the final three pieces now? Why not wait till SDCC and give people something to look forward to? This makes no sense to me.

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 04:58 PM
I hear that Josh, I suppose the only thing yet to be seen at SDCC is the pictures of Aragorn at the Black Gate.

gOzum
07-01-2005, 04:58 PM
It could simply be that SS have moved on from LOTR and want SDCC to be focused on their other lines. :\

Smart marketing I say.

ramblinj
07-01-2005, 04:59 PM
Well, does this announcement rule out Weta continuing the line without Sideshow?

I just can't believe the line would come to a close without Barad-dur, Denethor, and Faramir in some form. I mean.... I just can't believe that. There has to be a reason for such a decision. You surely don't decide to call it quits "becase the line has run it's course" when there are three such massively gaping holes in the collection.

... and don't even get me started on a Fellowship Pippin!

Gary

TURINS BANE
07-01-2005, 05:03 PM
I could simple be that SS have moved on from LOTR and want SDCC to be focused on their other lines.

Yeah it does sound like there cutting the LOTR line short. So they can do King Kong, and Narnia.:\

Gabberjawa
07-01-2005, 05:04 PM
I think Weta as far as their collectible lines go, are investing their eggs in the Kong and Narnia licenses. Think about it- instead of just doing one line as they've done with LOTR, they will now be potentially doing TWO full fledged lines of collectibles (not to mention their multiple sources of the real bread and butter- movies!)- where will they get the time?

My feeling is that they are ready to move on from LOTR. Best chance to have them come back is the failure of the other two lines. For now I'm going to believe what Chris says instead of the wild speculation.

Dassy
07-01-2005, 05:09 PM
What do you think this will do for prices?

Balrog drops to retail value on evilbay????

:poke

9500 Cancel sauron:rollin


Gotta go to bed now,I expect 600 Pages to read when I get back from a Concert on Sunday.

Have Fun guys!:wave

dstephan
07-01-2005, 05:10 PM
LotR is a proven successful line though and Kong and Narnia aren't. It would be foolish for them to give up a known quantity in favor of an unknown.

But Weta has decided that they can do it all themselves - perhaps they're trying to get a LotR statue line on their own. Perhaps SSC is doing the same.

May the best team win!

(all pure speculation of course)

But I sure do hope the SSC can do 1/4 and 1/6 LotR!

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 05:13 PM
This is all very true. I'm not shocked about these pieces but more in the fact if it is true that these are the final three pieces and the way its ending.

TURINS BANE
07-01-2005, 05:13 PM
I think it's more likely that the rarer ones, will go even more up in value.

ramblinj
07-01-2005, 05:16 PM
So... is the Danbury Barad Dur still available to buy? I never purchased it in the hopes Weta would make one :(

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 05:16 PM
I agree Josh, the way it is ending is very underwhelming. Mumak is a fan fave, as is the PJ, but why pic July 1? This could have been better addressed at SDCC.

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 05:20 PM
I'm really happy these pieces are getting made but >: >: >: >:

lakeshouse
07-01-2005, 05:33 PM
So that's it then... this is how it ends...
I'd like to thank Sideshow and WETA for all thier hard work. :bow

TURINS BANE
07-01-2005, 05:40 PM
Me to:toast , In a way were lucky we got the stuff we did. Thanks Sideshow-Weta.:toast

LOTR Fan
07-01-2005, 05:44 PM
Thank you SS, I truly mean that; but let's not forget they are a business and they have made a considerable amount of $$$ off of this line.

gOzum
07-01-2005, 05:44 PM
Yup, agree - great work SSW - it's been a fun ride! :bow :bow :bow

And regarding value - I expect the prices on all items will rise, due to the final limit of all available pieces being set.

The main threat I see in the value of this line, is if another rival company gets the license and starts flooding the market with LOTR.

SSW will always be the stand-out line to me.

coyote
07-01-2005, 05:45 PM
I am torn by this announcement. I am relieved that I wont have to pay much more money, but I am very disappointed that some of the statues I wanted will not be produced. They said they were going out with a bang, but I didnt think it would be this soon.

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 05:51 PM
Yeah, I agree thanks SS and Weta.:toast I'm still a big supporter of them and always will be.

Magneticzero
07-01-2005, 05:56 PM
THANK YOU SIDESHOW:toast

Now I can catch up with the pieces I wanted from the past couple years!!!:)

BTVSnut
07-01-2005, 05:58 PM
Big announcment of the day eh? :eek I'm not too bummed about it - I have a couple of the pieces from the LOTR lineup but I don't like to tie myself down to just one fandom :p I do find it a little odd that there's not a Faramir, even a bust, but IMO Weta does not sculpt the best human likenesses anyway - I only collect the non-human stuff from that line (Morgul Lord being my favorite). I'm holding out hope (together with dstephan it seems :) ) for a 1/6 or 1/4 line from Sideshow - those likenesses would be pretty close to dead-on to be sure.

Goodbye Sideshow/Weta - it's been a fun ride.... :wave

SwoopingCloakofSureness
07-01-2005, 06:10 PM
Sad day. That is all I have to say.

leebgb
07-01-2005, 06:18 PM
I agree with it feeling so underwhelming. The last huge announcement was made 6 months before the end of the line. So now the last half a year of the license will go by with no new announcements. :( :sick

stumpy
07-01-2005, 06:22 PM
Well hearing the announcement makes my statues feel more "worthy". Now the statues are something to remember the whole SS-LOTR-Board, experience. I think this might cause a rise, not a fall in prices as some expect.

Having both SS/Weta come to a mutual agreement, I doubt we will see the line come back again, unless the Hobbit comes. I wonder if there are any clauses in the agreement where neither company can produce these statues on their own? But to me it seems both sides are happy and ready to move on, anything else is overboard, the time is right.
See ya in the Star Wars section.....

Azog of Moria
07-01-2005, 06:30 PM
na na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey...good bye.... :(

JohnyBoo
07-01-2005, 06:38 PM
No Faramir or Denethor. I am speechless. :thud

RichardW
07-01-2005, 06:40 PM
I don't think these are the only two statues left. I think they are just announcing the most requested statue (Mumak) and the final statue (Corsair). I'm sure we'll see some more announcements at SDCC.

RichardW
07-01-2005, 06:40 PM
Never mind. Just read the second page.

stumpy
07-01-2005, 06:48 PM
Does seem strange, even the quote from Chris, "these are the final pieces in the line".....Final, so what are the ones before the final ones are released. Just dosen't make sense with the SDCC coming and not to release this info there if this really is the End. But it also isn't the time for jokes so I believe that we will not see anymore "new" items besides the last 3 announced. Chris could of said it like "No more LOTR items these are the last 3, bye".

aurea23
07-01-2005, 06:53 PM
It is sad....

So many more i wanted .....

oh welll

Michael

Gazmog
07-01-2005, 06:53 PM
So if this is the end of the polystone line, any hope for a final ROTK lithograph??? I doubt it. :(

aurea23
07-01-2005, 07:06 PM
I think there is a lot of pieces people wanted that havent been made....

Still cant see why no faromir ?

Michael

Gazmog
07-01-2005, 07:28 PM
Well, should ever The Hobbit make it to the screen...who will WETA partner? :p

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 07:30 PM
Well, hopefully Weta will smarten up after they see they are making a huge mistake and get the LOTR line going again.

DannieDarKo
07-01-2005, 07:30 PM
:rock

Gazmog
07-01-2005, 07:43 PM
I see TheWitchking has reinvented himself as DannieDarko. :lol

Which one's which? Is DannieDarko the master or the apprentice? :p

Josh: I think this is the end of the road for Weta Workshop and SSC. Weta partnered with Dark Horse Comics for Kong and Narnia...so I think it will be a safe bet Weta won't be partnering with Greg Anzalone again for The Hobbit.

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 07:44 PM
Yeah, I mean for Weta to do them by themselves if they have to but I'd really like them to finish the line. When the Hobbit comes around if they wanna do it by themselves thats cool.

Maldaketh
07-01-2005, 07:47 PM
I have to admit to being impressed. I knew that as a bust collector I was going to be disappointed, but this sucks way more than I'd ever have thought. Finally an announcement by Sideshow that truly has me baffled.

Yeah, I'm really upset... all that time spent collecting seems wasted given how incomplete my display cabinets are going to look. I just can't take my set of 40+ LotR busts seriously if they don't even include Eowyn and Faramir... especially while I have a whole shelf of Orcs (of which three are wounded) and another shelf dedicated to the Last Alliance. They made almost as many busts based on the prologue as on the entire last two movies for crying out loud.

Well, I suppose there isn't much left to do now... sooner or later I'll want to sell off most of my busts and just keep the Fellowship and another handful, but that can wait. Just maybe someone else will continue with similar collectibles or perhaps a movie of The Hobbit will resurrect the SSW line. I guess these things hold their value well enough so I needn't rush into anything.

But damn, does this suck. First the medallions, then the weapon sets and now all the other lines. Even the helms which just need the Uruk-hai soldier helm(s) to be fully complete. What a shame after so many dodgy choices to not have some of the major stuff. It feels as if I'm watching RotK and they cut from Frodo entering Shelob's lair to the Grey Havens scene.

Gazmog
07-01-2005, 07:49 PM
I think they will need a distributor, as Sideshow was for the LOTR line. Going solo will be very difficult, if not impossible, I'd imagine. I may be wrong.

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 07:54 PM
Well, they are using Darkhorse for the Narnia and Kong stuff so maybe thats who they will use.

lcummins
07-01-2005, 08:12 PM
:evil

SamAKALiz
07-01-2005, 08:16 PM
I am stunned. My credit cards relieved... but I am stunned.

How on earth can they have a steed line without ANY Rohirrim??? HOW???

Lookin4Precious
07-01-2005, 08:22 PM
So many questions.... so confused.. so upset :dunno

spaceman
07-01-2005, 08:24 PM
Thanks to Sideshow*Weta for an incredible product line!

I also have a few more I would like to see, I know everyone does.

But what we have is spectacular and I applaud them.

The announcement is a shock certainly. I was really excited at first, because I definitely wanted both the PJ and the Mumak. The reality of the product line ending sinking in as Chris made his announcement is a bit of a downer though, for sure. I am glad they announced it now though, simply because everyone was assuming Comic Con would be huge, and to have waited until then to announce fewer pieces than expected AND the end of the line would have been worse.

:clap Thanks for the memories ...

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 08:24 PM
Ditto L4 BIG DITTO

WetaWork
07-01-2005, 08:32 PM
How on earth can they have a steed line without ANY Rohirrim??? HOW???

So true... :sancho

TolkienCollector
07-01-2005, 08:54 PM
So, finally we reach the end :thud :thud I must say I expected the final announcement at SDCC, not like this :dunno :dunno I'd like to echo what several peeps have said, there shoulda been a representation of Denethor and Faramir :bang :thwak An Eowyn bust woulda been brill too!! :drool :drool :drool


But, we've had some great stuff from SSW, and I'd like to thank them for all the happiness they've bought me (and my visa) :google :google Good luck in all your future endeavours SSW - you've make an old Tolkien fan very happy :bow :bow :bow :bow :bow

:bonk :eye :bonk

the2fetters
07-01-2005, 08:58 PM
I'm sick to my stomach:x , I can't believe no Faramir or Denathor! Wounded Orc Bust over Faramir! You've got to be kidding me! What a joke, who's in charge over there? Haven't they heard over the last year or so, we want a Faramir! I still can't believe it........I don't know what else to say.......I'm stunned.:sick

sswlotr
07-01-2005, 09:16 PM
too many orc busts in the line....they should've put their focus on the main characters first. They probably thought that they would have enough time to issue them all. But at the end reality comes and it was too late. Just my guess otherwise I can't think of a logical explanation of missing so many important people in the lineup.

Viking28
07-01-2005, 09:33 PM
Weta partnered with Dark Horse Comics for Kong and Narnia

But you got to remeber Sideshow turned it down for those two license. I cant blame them really for doing that.

gOzum
07-01-2005, 09:36 PM
I think they've just ran out of steam, and being focused on other projects.

The wounded orc bust, Rohirrim bust, muzzle cage orc helm, flight from Isengard, all the recently released environments, are all OLD STUFF!

Sideshow has dusted them off, and released them.

WETA has only sculptered a few recent pieces - namely, PJ, Mumak, KotD, LegGimli, Aragorn@BG, Galadriel, Attack Troll... prob a few more... and that's it!

Oh... and the helms - they've been going strong, but from memory, they are made by different WETA artisit(s).

Not a lot of work for WETA to have done in the last year - all based on WETA moving on to more 'interesting' projects for them, I guess.

I am really looking forward to an official comment on why these CRITICAL characters have been ignored! :x

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 09:42 PM
I am really looking forward to an official comment on why these CRITICAL characters have been ignored!

Yeah, me 2.

SamAKALiz
07-01-2005, 09:47 PM
Me three!!!

Sir Tristram
07-01-2005, 09:48 PM
.....I...can't believe how this is affecting me... :puke

I mean, I knew it was coming to an end...but....

PJ's statue is the end? And Not even as a HOBBIT???

Oh, man....I mean, not even Sam carrying Frodo up Mt. Doom....
No Eomer on Firefoot....No Eomer statue at ALL!!! >:

No Faramir!!! :x

wow.....I'm just.....wow..... :|

*sigh*

Well....
This kind of fizzled out...Not quite the big bang I was expecting. |I

great line, but seems somewhat mishandled at the end. Good, but not quite as fitting as it seemingly should be. :(

Well....I guess (HOPE!) I have a great Star Wars line to look forward to. :\

SamAKALiz
07-01-2005, 09:48 PM
I feel abandoned. And kinda slapped in the face. :|

JohnyBoo
07-01-2005, 09:52 PM
So true Sam.

WetaNutt
07-01-2005, 09:54 PM
Was expecting "official" announcement of the end of the SSW partnership/LOTR line at SDCC...accompanied by 4-8 more pieces. As a minimum a representation of Denethor and Faramir...be it bust or statue. That's all I've been wanting....SOME representation of of ALL of the major/semi-major characters.

I've been patient thru all the nameless orcs. I've even been patient thru the Prologue busts....FULLY confident that they were "fillers" until the more important characters could be designed. Four years of patience and anticipation to collect a FULL set of busts or some form of the major characters.

To say I am crushed is an understatement. Right now, I have no words to really describe my frustration and disappointment. And sense of betrayal for my loyalty.

SamAKALiz
07-01-2005, 09:57 PM
And sense of betrayal for my loyalty.
So true, Nutt.

Sir Tristram
07-01-2005, 10:01 PM
Didn't they say 7 pieces after Toy Fair?

Rohirrim Bust
PJ
Mumak
Amen Hen

....what else?

Gorthaur The Cruel One
07-01-2005, 10:02 PM
Sigh, looks like the SSC/Weta LOTR party is over. Will someone turn off the lights?

Even tho there were so many more LOTR figures I would like to have seen produced, I accept that all good things have to eventually come to an end. Maybe, SS/Weta chose to make this last announcement now rather than at SDCC because it would have been very disruptive to the comicon celebratory atmosphere and it's good to get all the bad vibes out now rather than a couple of weeks from now. :dunno

As far as Hobbit figures, I think WETA will partner with whatever company can best bring their product to market. Hopefully, this will be Sideshow again. But all bets are off since Weta is partnered with DarkHorse for their immediate future.

Final thought: will there be a ROTK litho? I knew from talking with SSC reps that one of the reasons the Barad-dur Litho was delayed was that getting PJ's sig was next to impossible as busy as he was then and continues to be now. So, as much as I would like one to complete the trilogy, I am forced into the realization that it just won't happen.

Thank You both Sideshow and WETA for enriching my LOTR experience with your exquisitely crafted high end collectibles. I will cherish and reflect back upon the joy they have brought me fo a very long time. :bow :clap :rock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lookin4Precious
07-01-2005, 10:03 PM
You guys said it perfectly....

I said i felt screwed and some people challenged that. But its true. We HAVE been loyal.. and this ain't cheap. And we end the line with huge gaping holes in it... and far too much filler (the filler stuff is FINE and most of it is really cool.. but before, we looked at them as just that.. filler...had you said.. here is another Orc.. oh and btw.. you get him instead of Faramir.... i don't think so!)

This line is AMAZING and I love it and am sooo thankful for it even being made... but it really is a blow that it has ended so abruptly and wish such huge oversights. Really very sad.

gOzum
07-01-2005, 10:14 PM
Yup L4P - very sad.

The line is incomplete - and I for one will always view it as such. I will probably reduce my collection to just the key figures that are represented, so that I can say "My collection" is complete.

Very sad. :(

Sir Tristram
07-01-2005, 10:20 PM
Man, they even made a Haradrim with a Rohirrim sword sticking out of him, but no companion piece of a Rohirrim that just lost his sowrd or something...No Rohirrim statue at all!
UGH!

ArwenEvenstaroftheWest
07-01-2005, 10:45 PM
Thats it I cant take it any more. Ive read 7 pages of nothing but whining. :" Oh they didnt make a Faramir or a Denethor or an Eomer on Firefoot. " Get over it.
You guys all wanted the Mumak - pleaded until you got it and now you want more. Well there is no pleasing some people. Sorry but the collectibles market and SS doesnt revolve around the LOTR line. be happy with what you have.
These pieces are great and instead of celebrating some wonderful final pieces you just want to complain. Wow seems like Sideshow can never do right by some of you. :dunno I can see Im gonna be shunted from here for even saying this but oh well. :bang2

Lookin4Precious
07-01-2005, 10:50 PM
Oh shut up.

Nobody is complaining about the Mumak.. or the other releases. What we are complaining about is how abrupty the line ended and how unexpected it was. How items we thought were so obvious we were no longer asking for them but taking polls as to how they would be represented. If you don't understand the dissapointment most of us are feeling then I don't believe your heart was really in this.

Nobody is saying "I hate SSW." I think the only people saying "Boycott KK and Narnia" are lightening the mood a little. Its a sad day as it is, keep your preachy b i t c h i n g out of it. :peace

Sir Tristram
07-01-2005, 10:53 PM
No...they can't.
...and this simply is not the grand finale to which they alluded!

And in this day and age of collectibles and the markets and the absolutely absurd after-market....and what with all the - seemingly - never-ending collectible lines and licenses...We as collectors have been made this way...we are a much more demanding lot then ever before and rightfully so...with all the damn money spent on -not just SSW LOTR items, but ALL collectibles that some of us buy- we most certainly have the right to express our distaste and disillusionment with a particular company and their marketing and design choices!

ArwenEvenstaroftheWest
07-01-2005, 10:53 PM
Uh ok. Dont get defensive man. I wasnt preching at all just stating how it looked to me from here. And yes of course my heart was in this whole collecting thing. Just because I can say a point of view doesnt mean I dont understand your frustrations. With all these wanted statues when would enough really be enough? You may have Faramir and Denethor but then it would be but I wanted the eagles and I wanted Sam carrying Frodo. It would never stop and unfortunately, yes it did have to end eventually and now is the time.

dstephan
07-01-2005, 11:25 PM
I'm really surprised at this reaction too. Everyone knew it was ending. After hundreds of great items all anyone can do is complain about what they DIDN'T get.

Angmar King
07-01-2005, 11:27 PM
Boy...Sideshow makes another stupid decision. That CEO is a total moron if he thinks that their LOTR is complete. I never cared to have a Mumak or Corsair statue,...or even a Barad-Dur from Sideshow. I figured Sideshow/Weta gave up their right to produce Barad-Dur and that's why Danbury mint was able to make their statue. To totally deny major characters like Denethor, Faramir and Haldir busts and/or statues is downright idiotic. I think they made way too many statues and busts of Orcs and Uruk-hai, especially since they aren't as crucial to the story as the characters they overlooked. Most of the Orcs and Uruk-hai were just created for the movie and didn't play a big part in the book. I would have liked to see statues made of characters that were just as important to the book as they were to the movie.

WETA has done a great job making these sculptures. I will just be waiting for the time when they decide to make the Hobbit movie and then the collecting will continue. I really want a Smaug statue guarding his treasure.

Sir Tristram
07-01-2005, 11:27 PM
That's what consumers do....Demand.

And come on...Why are you suprised? This is a passionate group of collectors....LOTR fans in general are very committed!
As are most fan bases! ...Wait until the Star Wars line ends! The Force help us, then! :help

Lookin4Precious
07-01-2005, 11:30 PM
Sent you a PM Arwen...

As I said, we would have been disappointed no matter when the line ended, and no, we would never have had all our wants fulfilled. What I was saying was for the most part.. we though Faramir , Denathor and Eomer were GARANTEED. We were just awaiting it to be official. The fact that they aren't comming at all is the real blow. Sure, I wanted Sam Carrying Fordo, Barad-Dur.. etc etc.. but I knew i would be disappointed bc I wasn't going to get everying.

The Point.. three statues weren't made that we thought were comming.... that is why it hit so hard... all the other stuff would have been bonus

ArwenEvenstaroftheWest
07-01-2005, 11:38 PM
Ah ok. Yep I can definetely understand that no doubt. It was just I myself got a little overheated because I felt that you guys werent even being the loyal fans I know you usually are to WETA. You werent supporting their decisions to end the line and if I worked at WETA I would feel horrible reading all these posts. It felt like you werent even appreciating all the wonderful stuff SS has done for us. Instead it seemed everyone was being upset over pieces that were only pure speculation, even though it may of seem garunteed. There is every cause to be upset at the ending of the line. So in turn Im sorry. Just please try and understand what I am saying. :peace

dstephan
07-01-2005, 11:39 PM
Why did you think those 3 were guaranteed? I don't recall any hints or rumors to that effect?

jlcmsu
07-01-2005, 11:45 PM
Why did you think those 3 were guaranteed? I don't recall any hints or rumors to that effect?

Cause they where 3 vital characters to the Trilogy. This would be like in the SW 1/4 line not making Han, Leia, and Yoda.

EriatarkaESP
07-01-2005, 11:53 PM
Wow... to think that back in the day, THIS thread would've been this board's "hottest discussion." Now all we will ever have is "The last person to respond" thread. Thanks a lot, Big Al. :D

katsal
07-02-2005, 12:25 AM
Hi Guys.

The new suprised me quite a bit, although I had known it was ending sometime down the track.
I have no complaints about about remaining releases, yes it is a pitty we will never see characters such as Denethor, Faramir, but im not complaining. As a statue collector only im actually happy that this line has been kept to a managable size.

Well done to Weta and Sideshow for what has been an incredible experience.

Maldaketh
07-02-2005, 12:30 AM
Yeah, it's not just that I didn't get everything I wanted... at one point I'd made up a wishlist of another thirty busts. I reduced that list until I had about ten left that I thought were must-haves. I wasn't really expecting Sideshow to make even all of those. What happens is they don't make any of them. Years of waiting for the most glaring and obvious gaps to be filled has led to absolutely nothing.

I'm sure we all have many little problems with the various lines that we could rant about for hours on end, but I must say there is generally relatively little whining on this board. Usually the spirit is mainly positive, even when it comes to the more questionable releases like for instance Buckleburry Ferry. I haven't seen such an overwhelmingly negative reaction to anything before.

What makes it worse is that this is the end. Normally if an announcement was disappointing you could at least look forward to the problem being 'fixed' somehow by later releases. All we might get is an explanation as to how the hell they managed to have Faramir represented only by his helmet.

HighElven
07-02-2005, 12:57 AM
Yes, I am 110% sure of that.
:speech

TolkienCollector
07-02-2005, 01:59 AM
Cheer up peeps!! U can still buy bendy dolls

Get Yer Bendy Dolls!!! (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=7511)

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

aurea23
07-02-2005, 02:22 AM
Myself and my wife would like to know

WHY
"Faramir represented only by his helmet."

WHY ???????

Agent23
07-02-2005, 02:38 AM
It's been fun.

I am kinda glad that the line has ended. I mean sure there are some pieces missing that I would like to have seen, but it's 0k.

Sideshow and Weta have given us some amazing pieces from LOTR. :bow



P.S. Josh, I told you SDCC didn't have as many announcements as Toy*Fair.... :lol

noelchiew
07-02-2005, 04:05 AM
i am surprised as well that they announced this out of a sudden before SDCC. does it mean there wouldnt be much of a use for LOTR newsletter anymore. we could just rely on the general one for shipping dates since there wont be any more new products.... or is it? :naughty

i think what they have said could be interpreted in another way. the PJ as corsair is the last as in the last product that they intend to make and ship out prob. but it could mean that it isnt the last of the next 3 products that they will be making.

meaning it could mean that they will have other products just that this PJ as corsair will be the final one out of the many that have yet to be announced. sort of like a forecast.

anyway, even if SS didnt release anymore other than the 3 mentioned in the newsletter. we can hope that weta can find time to continue the lotr line. afterall it could well be that weta wants to save some of the popular ones like faramir and eomer to make and sell themselves. it wouldnt be as wise to make all the popular ones for ss, leaving nothing much for themselves later?

could be a marketing gimmick too? making us sad now by giving us the wrong impression only to announce new products later and making us real happy as we thought there isnt anymore.

PropBoy007
07-02-2005, 06:11 AM
So let's talk value.
Do we see a spike in the market?? Or, do you think the line has run its course?

VTX
07-02-2005, 06:12 AM
http://users.adelphia.net/~vtx/baby.gif

GrimaSnailTongue
07-02-2005, 07:26 AM
No marketing ploys, no tricks, no "Suprise! We were just joking about these being the last statues" newsletter. This_is_the_end.

I must admit that when I got my newsletter this morning I was just as shocked, especially with it being anounced so "out of the blue" so to speak, and as noted many posts before, no Faramir or Denethor busts....vital characters that deserved representation. Not the Rohirrum bust, not the Wounded Orc bust. I appreciate those offerings, I really do, but hey, you can still pick up the Dwarven Lord bust and sand the beard off of it. :|

Remember me. I will have a Faramir and Denethor bust. Once my friend in the UK finishes Boromir, I'm having him sculpt these two next now. Who knows, I may have a few resin painted copies. :naughty

cherno
07-02-2005, 07:40 AM
Wow, this was quite a surprise.
My gut feeling is one of relief. I am happy that the line is ending because my bank account can breath. At the same time, for the niche of product that I collect, I am fulfilled. They have made all the pieces that I think are "required" for the bad guy line.
I can understand how many are upset that Faramir and Denethor get no representation at all (apart from Faramir's helm, but come on, that doesn't count.)
I think that Eomer on Steed would have been a better piece than Legolas and Gimli on Arod, for his statue representative.
And there are a ton of busts that could have been shelved instead of Faramir, Denethor and Eowyn.

More than that though, I wonder how the actors playing Faramir and Denethor feel? While watching the extras and TTT EE gollum disc, you see how excited those actors are to have their characters and likenesses put into a collectible. Christopher Lee had this as one of the few pieces done on him bronzed and signed to keep! John and David don't have anything.

We all knew the end had to come eventually, and whether that end is because of sideshow or weta, or why it happened so abruptly in spite of things we have been told, we might never know.

So for the selfish part of my, I don't really mind (as long as I get my order in for these last three pieces :) ), but the more empathetic part of me is sad for my fellow collectors.

Nessasita
07-02-2005, 07:42 AM
On one hand I am sad that it ended... on the other hand my savings account is glad that it ended... I will be able to buy more than just a shed after all... lol.

But... guys realize this... thanks to these statues we have become great friends... and eventhough the line is ending... I am sure our friendship will never end... and don't you think that is the most important thing.

Huggggggggggzzzzzzzzzzzzz... love always... :grouphug

Hells of Iron
07-02-2005, 07:53 AM
I'm glad we are getting a PJ tribute piece, but I can't believe that this is going to be the farewell statue.
Weta have given us so many great pieces over the years, and although I personally wanted to see some more bad guys made - which I didn't really expect to see, I had expected to see some more main characters done in statue form.
:dunno What happened?

Elros
07-02-2005, 08:32 AM
I believe that there are two factors involved with this announcement of the end of the LOTR line.

First, Sideshow's 4 year license is expiring and;

Second, I believe WETA has a capacity problem in doing additional sculptures by the end of the year.

I think this was one of the key issues for the delay in getting Sauron completed. WETA just simply had too many other priorities like King Kong, Narnia and who knows what else.

I too felt that Faramir and Denethor should have had a statue or bust and Eomer on Firefoot would have been a better choice than the Legolas/Gimli on Arod.

Overall, SSW has provided an excellent high quality line of collectibles that you just can't find anywhere else and I will treasure my collection as long as I live. So as far as I'm concerned I could care less if their value increases or decreases (my kids may have a different point of view since they will eventually end up with my stuff).

Here's to Sideshow and WETA :toast and I'll be able to thank the Sideshow folks in person at SDCC.

John :smokin

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 08:45 AM
Well, I knew that TF was gonna be bigger than SDCC Agent but the fact bascially SDCC is gonna be nothing of LOTR from SSW is new news to me.

Still shocked that three vital characaters are getting the shaft and two really are getting it. You won't see them do that to SW or Marvel.

DonnamiraTook
07-02-2005, 08:47 AM
Feel like I'm standing at the edge of Mount Doom with no ring.

This announcement really depressed me. But made my credit card breathe a sigh of relief.

Mr Fell Beast
07-02-2005, 08:51 AM
Like other have said, its been fun but actually I really could care less. As I really have run out of room for my display and do not want my collection to out grow me! :hat

Viking28
07-02-2005, 09:08 AM
It would be kind of cool to be in the know for this one for what actually happened. There was still pieces that were made that could of been released (and for all we dont know the three vital characters might be already made).

I think this has to do with Weta pulling the plug rather than Sideshow. Maybe they didnt want attention pulled away from their other 2 lines they have going. I think Sideshow did a great job with this license and I think their hands were tied for some of the bumps that happened along the way. But they took the bruises and kept going.
But anyway I got to say I really wanted the brothers and their father together in a display and of course the Argonaths.
No Lurtz in armour either with his bow raised

:bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang :bang

Diesel
07-02-2005, 09:11 AM
this is ridiculous...

they end the line with a stupid Mumak, and a silly PJ piece...? give me a friggen brake... :rolleyes

How many poeple have i heard BEGGING for a Treebeard STATUE...? many more than i hear asking for a stupid Mumak...

they might have commissioned someone to do some better pieces of Frodo and Sam... at least one where they were together... Sam carrying Frodo is what should be the LAST piece... not PJ... i think i'm going to :puke

THEY are what the story is all about... i mean c'mon... we only get one of each of them...? and they're both pretty lame IMO...

Hey SS, if this is truly the last pieces we will see, YOU SUCK...! You won't see anymore of my money in the future... :thwak

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 09:14 AM
Its been fun and I totally thank SS, Weta, and New Line for what they have done for us with these items. They have made me become an even bigger fan as the time has gone on and allowed me to meet on the internet mostly some really cool people. I have and will always look upon my collection with a great big smile and think of all the fun I had getting each piece. I'm going to try and get the answers that solve this riddle, but you wouldn't see the precious 1/4th SW line, Marvel, Buffy, X-Files, etc. have two characters totally left out and one only getting a so/so bust done.

Viking28
07-02-2005, 09:16 AM
Hey SS, if this is truly the last pieces we will see, YOU SUCK

YOU actually think it was Sideshow that said lets end this now???

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 09:17 AM
Yeah, I don't think its SS either but its probably New Line :p Who knows it may be a group decision but its not a good decision to leave characters still needing to be made. Ending is ok but ending without doing two vital guys and three really is sad.

Diesel
07-02-2005, 09:18 AM
it doesn't matter why the line ends... i understand the license is expiring... and i'm not upset that the line is coming to an end...

BUT...

THEY are the ones that chose to end the line with these lame offerings...

Viking28
07-02-2005, 09:20 AM
This was a money maker for SS and its done outside of them (the sculpting that is) so it wasnt really taking resources away from other projects.

Viking28
07-02-2005, 09:27 AM
THEY are the ones that chose to end the line with these lame offerings...

How do you know that it was them that decided to end it with these pieces? How do we not know that it was "Here you go 3 more pieces to release and o yea thats it, no more nada thats the end"

Mr Fell Beast
07-02-2005, 09:41 AM
Sam carrying Frodo

That would SUCK!!! :puke Sam cariing Frodo..UGH Can you imagine how small that would be....UGH....

Diesel
07-02-2005, 09:42 AM
no, it would be in 1/6 scale...

why wouldn't it...?

Mr Fell Beast
07-02-2005, 09:50 AM
GAWD....:puke give a PJ statue instead, Sam carring Frodo, I never like that idea and thank GOD it will not be made......

Lookin4Precious
07-02-2005, 09:56 AM
Sam Carrying Frodo... IS THE obvious choice for the last statue.. like Cory said.. the story is all about them... there is only one representation of both of them, and that scene is the greatest in the trilogy. It would have been so awesome and so poetic!

WetaNutt
07-02-2005, 09:59 AM
yep. ah well. <sigh> :\

TURINS BANE
07-02-2005, 10:01 AM
A PJ statue,? or a Faramir statue.? Well I know which one I would have taken. Even though I'm grateful for what he helped to do.:\

Gazmog
07-02-2005, 10:01 AM
IS THE obvious choice for the last statue

Hmm, I would have to say that a Grey Havens environment would have been a sweet conclusion to this line.

Mr Fell Beast
07-02-2005, 10:02 AM
Sam Carrying Frodo... IS THE obvious choice

How is that???


NOT!!!!


THat would be sleeper..............zzzzzzzzzzzz:sleep

BORING!!!

TURINS BANE
07-02-2005, 10:06 AM
That would have been nice Gaz. But an "End of all things Environment" would have been
a perfect way to end the line for me, very poetic. Those Eagles on the rock base just perfect.

Diesel
07-02-2005, 10:07 AM
and people think i'm an @#%$...?

i think you stole the crown... :rolleyes

Mr Fell Beast
07-02-2005, 10:13 AM
and people think i'm an @#%$...?

THINK, not thinking needed here as we all know.... ;)

Anyhow.............. ;) Get your much needed :help ok and come back as some other screen name.....:rolleyes

B Electronic
07-02-2005, 10:43 AM
People, can we act like respectable people again? Its starting to get out of hand. I know most people are gutted that the line is ending and we didnt get a Faramir or Eomer or any of all the suggestions we made, but going berserk on eachother isnt going to help.

pitchin4eva
07-02-2005, 01:12 PM
What bugs me is that in various chats at events eg. sdcc TF etc., sideshow hinted on a big finish to the line................this ain't a big finish.......more a exit via the back door

CaptainCaveTroll
07-02-2005, 01:26 PM
I think, in reality, whatever they offered, there would be those that were happy and those that were not. For some the glass is always half empty. At the end of the day, look at all of the superb stuff that they have produced and be grateful. If you are so gutted that they aren't going to make your favourite statue, why not take up sculpting and make one yourself?

Gunner1973
07-02-2005, 01:48 PM
The LOTR licence has been extremley good to everyone involved eg: Sideshow, us collectors, WETA, and all those credit card companys! This licence must be their biggest and most successfull and lucrative ever, and it has made them into a household name what with the DVD gift sets. People have spent some serious money with them, possibly more than any sane person should, So I can totally understand everyone being so pissed off at them to end the line so suddenly in this way and with several main characters missing. Everybody who visits this board regularly fully understands that the licence was going to end and are extremley gratefull to sideshow and weta for what they have done for the last few years but I think it is the WAY it has ended that has upset so many of us.

Just my thoughts.

Heart Of Stone
07-02-2005, 02:41 PM
Good thoughts Gunner ! It is the way in which it is ending that is so bothersome .

Dasciutto
07-02-2005, 03:16 PM
This day i will always remember as
Live 8 and the end of SSW LOTR line.

(This is the end of all things)



My WETAholic website (http://asciutto.dyndns.org/)

http://asciutto.dyndns.org/WETAholic%20links/wetaholicbanner.jpg

Magneticzero
07-02-2005, 03:47 PM
Sideshow is a business....and as a business it is always changing and evolving. I would gaurantee it was a decision by WETA to finally end the line and move on with other things.

Everyone here should realize Sideshow didn't decide to end the line to screw us. In my opinion Sideshow has been nothing but good to us through having great contests, making pieces that a majority of people have asked for, and even having key personel within the company come to this board to give us hints and most of the time make new friends. It's been one hell of a good ride with the LOTR line and who knows, we may be talking soon about "The Hobbit" license if they can work out the legal issues.

The Godfather said it the best..."It's not personal, it's just business"

Thanks Sideshow for starting my love of collecting top quality movie memorabilia!!!!!

One last comment....many friendships have been made on this board, all due to everyone's passion for collecting Sideshow LOTR collectibles.

Sir Tristram
07-02-2005, 03:56 PM
Fine, a business....we got that....and Ending is not the issue.

I think a lot of us are questioning the quirky business/marketing production decisions!

Can you imagine a Star Wars line in which there were representations of clones and troopers and ewoks and pilots and guards and esoteric aliens from the cantina and no representation of characters like some of the major supporting cast like LANDO or YODA or C-3PO???

It is just difficult to understand and digest.
We're all just trying to work it out for ourselves and come to terms with the fact that they made what they made for reasons unbeknownst to us and that is that.
...regardless of whether or not we think it's sucks or it's just strange...

:rolleyes

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 04:07 PM
I would consider the peopl at SS friends in collecting and I don't have any bad feelings towards them or Weta. I just don't understand why they couldn't get certain characters in when they when we hade several generic characters made. Its all good in the end but it still stings.

dstephan
07-02-2005, 04:27 PM
Cause they where 3 vital characters to the Trilogy. This would be like in the SW 1/4 line not making Han, Leia, and Yoda.

I think it's more like them not making Lando, Ackbar and Tarkin. But I do agree that given the anonymous characters that did get made, it's a bit odd that Faramir and Denethor aren't represented.

leebgb
07-02-2005, 04:33 PM
Yeah, I'm still feeling the sting today as well. I still can't believe that there's no Faramir, Denethor or Barad-dur. I honestly don't fathom why these wouldn't be priority with the ROTK line.
I feel like Faramir is a major character (and not a secondary character like Haldir, etc.). Especially in ROTK. He really needed a bust or statue.
Barad-dur has been such an iconic piece representing "evil" in the trilogy that I'm completely blown away by it being left out. Personally, I'd MUCH rather have Barad-dur than a prologue Sauron.
The problem with ending a line and leaving out characters is that you can't help but look back at what other pieces were released. They felt the need to release an orc overseer statue and bust but no Faramir statue or bust? Where's the logic in that?
Another thing is that some of the recent releases are just pieces that have sat around for years like Weathertop, Buckleberry Ferry, Amon Hen, Wounded Orc, and the Rohirrim bust.How is that going out with a bang? To me it almost seems like they'd just rather release items that have been sitting around rather than taking the time to create a few needed pieces to complete the line. I'm very happy Buckleberry Ferry and Amon Hen are finally being released but I think a lot of people like me were expecting new pieces. I just don't get why all of these old pieces weren't worth producing a few years ago but now are. :dunno

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 04:33 PM
Yup, exactly Dave. Its just very very very odd.

Heart Of Stone
07-02-2005, 04:44 PM
After all the crap that Faramir had to put up with in the movie , I feel that he was one of the most deserving of a statue or atleast a bust . Hell , even a medallion !

mitthrawnuruondo
07-02-2005, 04:52 PM
worst email i ever got,can i send it back:sick

Gazmog
07-02-2005, 04:59 PM
I find it bizarre they never made a Faramir product.:dunno

I would feel a little p***** off deep down if I were David Wenham. They can make that crap Haradrim soldier, yet not a principal character. :|

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 05:05 PM
Yeah, I know I'd be if I was him. Like someone said earlier the helm doesn't count. Nothing against helms but it just doesn't count.

stumpy
07-02-2005, 05:15 PM
I'm glad to see the line end, and I can't believe all the crying from grown men about 2 statues. I wanted to see Smeagol and Déagol in the row boat, etc., there are so many possiblites the line will never be complete and it was never meant to be. The same goes for Star Wars. To want every staute is just being "selfish", and its sad as some 'dis' SS, a company that has been so loyal and greatful to its fans, from free gifts, events, etc. For some its all about "me" and "my" needs, no loyalty, turn your back and start crying like a little girl who wants the Barbie with the convertible. Its funny reading these post of grown men crying about toy statues. Now I glad they didn't make Faramir because we dont deserve him.
Its funny because the LOTR is about a journey of friendship and loyalty and thats how I feel my relationship with SS was, and to see people start to turn on SS is like the ring taking over in a sense.
But you got to be out of your mind to think that SS is going to make every figure, and its just selfish crying that never seems to stop, from Pippin to KOTD, now there made, and now I want these, cry cry cry.
Well spell check isn't working and I'm not going to proof read this, and I'm sure I'll be getting hit with some comments, but I most likely wont be reading this topic any more as its getting old. So pm me for anything you want me to read, otherwise dont waste your time replying something to me that I probably won't read.

To sum it up once again, had a great time, I feel my statues are worth more to me now, as I expect prices should rise as these statues will be the memories that will reflect the board, Sideshow, the movie and the book.

"Lets us be rid of it once and for all"

Heart Of Stone
07-02-2005, 05:34 PM
If anything , David Wenham himself deserved to have a statue made in his likeness . And yes , most of us do want one for ourselves . So making one would serve two purposes . David would be happy , and the fans that have been asking and waiting for this statue over the years would be happy .

Chicky
07-02-2005, 05:36 PM
Viking28 is King! What is a King without his crown? Hmmm, so I guess we will have to give you one. E-mail me to claim your Elessar Crown!

Best,
Chicky
Sideshow
:dunno

Chicky
07-02-2005, 05:42 PM
The next five freaks to post the phrase "Eomer rocks" and then to e-mail me will get an Eomer bust!

Please note: International peeps will be responsible for import fes, taxes and duties!

Chicky

Heart Of Stone
07-02-2005, 05:43 PM
"Eomer rocks"

mitthrawnuruondo
07-02-2005, 05:44 PM
"eomer rocks"

CSI123
07-02-2005, 05:44 PM
Eomer Rocks

Sir Tristram
07-02-2005, 05:44 PM
Eomer rocks

Lembas Eater
07-02-2005, 05:44 PM
Eomer Rocks!

TURINS BANE
07-02-2005, 05:45 PM
Yeah, I'd be really pissed if I was David Wenham. Just think of all the none character statues they have done. It just out of order not even to do a bust of him.

Heart Of Stone
07-02-2005, 05:48 PM
I don't know the email address

Sir Tristram
07-02-2005, 05:49 PM
I just sent mine to two different ones....I hope one of them made it!

Chicky?
I didn't add all of my info as I did not know if I still had the correct e-mail for you!!!

spaceman
07-02-2005, 05:50 PM
Being myself a person who starts off thinking really big, and often later find out I've bitten off a bit too much, I get the idea this is sort of what happened here. A lot of the 'random' characters seem to have been envisioned or produced early, and the main 'missing' character complaints focus around ROTK.

mitthrawnuruondo
07-02-2005, 05:51 PM
i sent a message thorugh ezboard.i think it was a pm.the email addy wasnt available.and i edited my post from eomer rocks! to "eomer rocks: i lied it better with the exclamition point but felt the need to follow rules:banana

Viking28
07-02-2005, 05:53 PM
THANKS CHICKY!!!!! I emailed you at the mistress of the web email address! YOU ROCK!! :bow :bow

Heart Of Stone
07-02-2005, 05:56 PM
Whether I won something or not , thanks for the offer Chicky !

Daveyjaro
07-02-2005, 06:03 PM
I have Eomer bust, it is good. Congrats to those who won. Now, where is the Faramir bust contest? :lol

Heart Of Stone
07-02-2005, 06:06 PM
Falconerrocks

Magneticzero
07-02-2005, 06:09 PM
Geez...I say all the nice things and win nothing:naughty

Still love you Sideshow...and Chicky

SamAKALiz
07-02-2005, 06:11 PM
Eomer rocks


(I'm still gonna try!)

Heart Of Stone
07-02-2005, 06:11 PM
I'm not even sure who I emailed . I guess someone out there will be confused .:dunno

Lembas Eater
07-02-2005, 06:12 PM
Thank you, Chicky!:bow :ted :clap

Sir Tristram
07-02-2005, 06:13 PM
Hi Chicky!

OK...I just sent a PM and an e-mail with info....I hope it all went to you and not to ....they unknown... :skull

Heart Of Stone
07-02-2005, 06:23 PM
"Sauron rocks!"

Beruthiel1
07-02-2005, 06:25 PM
sorry HOS, it's TURKEYPOLY!

SwoopingCloakofSureness
07-02-2005, 06:35 PM
Babybalroggotback?

leebgb
07-02-2005, 06:46 PM
:mwaha

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 06:54 PM
Chicky thats very kind of you.

Stumpy,
I don't think any of us are truly mad at SS just bummed. We will get over it and move on and love what we got. Almost everyone here including myself really loves SS and loves them for all they have done for us LOTR collectors over the time they have made these products. People are just bummed and want to vent give them that without coming in and being an @#%$.

leebgb
07-02-2005, 06:57 PM
I don't think anyone's mad at SS as I doubt they have anything to do with what does and doesn't get made. It's Weta I have my beef with. :balrog :p

Gazmog
07-02-2005, 06:59 PM
I don't think any of us are truly mad at SS just bummed. We will get over it and move on and love what we got.

Very diplomatic of you, Josh.

Spoken like a true clone: yes sir, right away. :lol

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 07:02 PM
Its that SW coming out in me :p


Just saying what I think most of the board would agree with.

Gazmog
07-02-2005, 07:10 PM
I do not have any sense of disappointment at this news. There are far more important things in life than the longevity of a collectibles line. I would have thought the events in Philadelphia, London and elsewhere would have hit that home to some people, just where our thoughts must lie right now.

Even if they had made your beloved Barad-dur, there would have been a number of you who would have ranted and raved about some other piece(s) that they overlooked. So much for harmony and community spirit. :rolleyes

Diesel
07-02-2005, 07:18 PM
wow, look at SS trying to buy our affections with some free pieces... :thwak

make what we been asking for, for the last year... :ar

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 07:21 PM
I agree that these are not life shattering moments or events. On a scale of 1-10 for that they come in at -1. Your points are not debateable at all cause you are totally correct.


However, this is a collectibles board so being able to vent and be bummed should be ok without the whole real world BS being tossed at people. People have the right to vent even to the point of beating the horse dead. That has nothing to do with community spirit or other such things.

Diesel
07-02-2005, 07:23 PM
:horse

:rock

Gazmog
07-02-2005, 07:36 PM
That has nothing to do with community spirit or other such things.

Hmmm, the whole purpose of a place like this is to debate in relative peace and harmony collectibles each and every one us collects, and therefore has a vested interest in. When disputes flare up over idle comments that cause offence and tension, the so-called 'community spirit' suffers as a consequence; not always but sometimes. You may be able to keep your head when all about you are losing theirs...but some aren't so willing to be as tolerant.

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 07:41 PM
Thats true we do have some that are really flying off the handle and need to comeback down a little.

Winged Shadows
07-02-2005, 07:42 PM
Gazmog is really Ghandi!!!!

:google

Diesel
07-02-2005, 07:43 PM
Josh, do you ever disagree with anyone...?

:rollin

Gazmog
07-02-2005, 07:44 PM
:bow :D

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 07:45 PM
If Gazmog is Ghandi I want an autograph :p

jlcmsu
07-02-2005, 10:32 PM
Something we got into talking about over at Shadow and Flame.

From Brant at Sideshow: During Toy Fair

" Peoples! Relax!

There's no need for a petition, or panic, or rejoicing, depending on your current state of mind. I think Chris' comments in the chat may have been misconstrued or misunderstood...

"30 pcs left"
There are more than 30 products left to ship in 2005, including a lot of items you already know about (and probably already pre-ordered).

The line can't go on forever, and we are preparing for when things wind down. There is something special planned for the end of the SideshowWETA line.

If I'm right here are the pieces.

WOB
Pippin
Galadriel
BT Statue
KOTD
Aragorn @ The Black Gates
ML Helm
Legolas/Gimli
Orc Helm
MOS Helm
Eowyns Helm
KOTD Helm
Plaque
GHC
EC
Saurons helm
Minas Morgul
Sauron
Weathertop
BBF
Amon Hen
PJ
Mumak
Eowyn
Gothmog
SDCC Rohirrim Bust
Eomer's Helm
Merry's Helm
4 Troll Maquettes

There are 32 items in this list.

HighElven
07-03-2005, 01:01 AM
People have the right to vent even to the point of beating the horse dead. That has nothing to do with community spirit or other such things.
So thats why you get so pissed when people vent about how they dont like a statue?

ArwenEvenstaroftheWest
07-03-2005, 01:45 AM
"Eomer Rocks." what'd I win? :thwak :lol

TURINS BANE
07-03-2005, 02:02 AM
I never win anything.:(

But I do thing that "Gandalf bronze rocks".:rock :rock

Yeah right.:lol

CaptainCaveTroll
07-03-2005, 02:44 AM
Thats true we do have some that are really flying off the handle and need to comeback down a little.

I seem to remember commenting that I could not see the attraction in the helms a few weeks ago and then suffering a barrage of sulking comments. You can't get uptight and touchy one minute and then tell people to chill out the next.

lakeshouse
07-03-2005, 02:59 AM
Josh, maybe they are shipping Mumakil and PJ in 2006 :p

ArwenEvenstaroftheWest
07-03-2005, 03:38 AM
Yeah, I'd be really pissed if I was David Wenham. Just think of all the none character statues they have done. It just out of order not even to do a bust of him.

You really think David Wenham would care? I certainly dont think so. He's moved on from LOTR and I would say the real satisfaction for him came from being in the film and working with a cast and crew he will never forget and always will remain friends with, not caring over some diddly squat statue that represents his character. Sorry couldnt think of a better word for diddly and squat and I dont mean it in a harsh sense just the fact that he really wouldnt care too deeply I'd imagine. :dance

CaptainCaveTroll
07-03-2005, 04:00 AM
You really think David Wenham would care? I certainly dont think so.

Exactly. I think actors are more worried about their next role rather than is there a 12 inch statue being made of them. I always wonder what they really think. When conventions are organised why do they turn up?

For the fans? Maybe a bit
For the money? You bet!

They are not bothered about what replicas are made of themselves. The only thing that bothers them is all the weirdos that turn up and making sure none of them develops into a stalker!

Gazmog
07-03-2005, 04:42 AM
The only thing that bothers them is all the weirdos that turn up and making sure none of them develops into a stalker!

Hmm, there are few of them here. :p Whether they will graduate to stalker status is another matter. Should the likes of Chris et al be concerned about our friend from the mid-west, when he makes his maiden voyage to San Diego? :lol

JohnyBoo
07-03-2005, 06:18 AM
I was really bummed about no Faramir or Denethor even in bust form but I am over it. Now I can concentrate on getting the pieces I have missed due to so many coming at once and I do have to space mine out some....if I could just quit getting sucked into the SW stuff. :bang2

pordey2
07-03-2005, 06:34 AM
...I'm not over it!
But I guess I have to settle for the old hobbits, even though the likeness....
:x

But guess we'll survive - just need some time...

FrodoEyes
07-03-2005, 06:56 AM
*This is the end. My only friend, the end....."
I hope Weta continues it, but by the sounds of it they've decided to end it now too. I like what's announced, we get both PJ and a Corsair in a single statue, and the last beast of middle earth.
But hey at least now I can sort out how my display's going to look....I can keep Boromir with Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and GTW and not have to move him onto a shelf with Faramir and Denethor!
Actually I'm more bummed that I won't be getting my shrine to the Scouring of the Shire - Hobbiton factory - as I KNOW it was made, but I won't have it!

No Mouth Of Sauron, no Faramir, no Eomer, no Denethor, no Treebeard, no Hobbiton factory, no Bag-End, no Barad-Dur

And don't anyone DARE say I'm ungrateful or anything like that, I would not have spent thousands of pounds on statues, busts and environments if I didn't truly love all this stuff and the people who make them. I have a right as a loyal collector to feel at least upset that I won't see some things I would have liked. For example a Mouth Of Sauron on steed statue would have been my absolute favourite of the line. I'm just a bit shocked at the abruptedess of the end.

*Bang........fizzle*

FrodoEyes
07-03-2005, 07:06 AM
Also, for my completist needs, the UK models line will do! SSW will be a rare and unique collectibles line I shall have in my home.

jlcmsu
07-03-2005, 07:09 AM
So thats why you get so pissed when people vent about how they dont like a statue?

No, I get pissed when someone starts in on saying stuff is @#%$, horrible, etc. Then goes no further than that.


I seem to remember commenting that I could not see the attraction in the helms a few weeks ago and then suffering a barrage of sulking comments. You can't get uptight and touchy one minute and then tell people to chill out the next.

I didn't give a rats ass that you said you didn't see why people collected helms. It was the way you worded your posts saying helms suck and people shouldn't collect them. Nothing on this board gets me uptight! I just laugh at the comments that are made in a negative manner:lol
-------------------------------------------------------

So what does anyone think of the list I posted above? Thats all she wrote.

CaptainCaveTroll
07-03-2005, 07:35 AM
It was the way you worded your posts saying helms suck and people shouldn't collect them.

When you quote people, you should quote them verbatim as this is not what I said.

What made me laugh at the time is that you were saying how good they were and then, the very next day, you were selling a load of them in the 'For sale/trade' section'. Can't have been that good after all!

GrimaSnailTongue
07-03-2005, 08:00 AM
For some its all about "me" and "my" needs, no loyalty, turn your back and start crying like a little girl who wants the Barbie with the convertible. Its funny reading these post of grown men crying about toy statues. Now I glad they didn't make Faramir because we dont deserve him.

Read it or not, this was an idiotic post. I don't know what your collection consists of, but I would have liked to have one representation of each human character that had emotional, thinking, speaking roles. Toy statues? You might take yours off the shelf and have them romp around the room and swordfight, but I doubt the rest of us do. YOU might not deserve a Faramir, but don't speak for everyone else. Anyone that has been paying attention over the past four years is smart eoungh to know that Weta is the creator and Sideshow is the distributor...watch the Gollum dvd again. So it's Weta that gave us the big shaft, not Sideshow.

And whoever made the "real world" comment, we are all aware what the real world is thank you.

FrodoEyes
07-03-2005, 08:03 AM
Toy statues????

These are pieces of art, not Toybiz!!