Mumak

[jlcmsu]

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[Magneticzero]

Beyond my expectations....awesome!!!

[LOTR Fan]

So it is dying!? :speech Depending on scale, it could look good with the Legimarod. :dunno

[elwood49]

FANTASTIC!!! After being majorly disappointed with the Aragorn piece, I can't wait to get this.

[leebgb]

Don't forget that the size is posted:

Product Type: Polystone Figure
Product Size: approx. 11" H (279mm) x 14" W (356mm) x 18" D (457mm) *
Product Weight: 10.00 lbs (4.32 Kg) *

...and limited to 3,000 pieces.

This one is DEFINETLY my favorite of the last 3 pieces. It :rock

[jlcmsu]

Yeah, I'm digging this. It looks like it has some nice freaking detail and I do love the dying pose. Man, what awesome day so many great items in one day SWEEEEEET!!!

[Lookin4Precious]

11inches isn't HUGE, however, I think in order to give us a piece that would make everyone happy, they had him falling, so while the scale isnt small, the pose limits how big he can be. I think its great! Not perfect.. but very very good!

[The real Bullseye]

I like it but why this pose.

[leebgb]

Apparently at Weta they wanted anything representing the Haradrim to be in a "being killed" pose. :dunno

I do like this pose very much though! :dance :dance

[Gruson]

I like it but was only going to buy it if it was BIG!

[RichPG]

It's a very easy decision for me.

$300 is too steep for this sized statue.

Battle troll was $175, this is 2" taller and a bit wider (Just as detailed if not more)

Sauron is twice the height at $300.

This should have been $200, $225 at a push.

Also the pose is not great, If I must have a Mumak - I'll get a Games Workshop kit & paint it up. At least theirs is alive with all four feet on the ground!

[jlcmsu]

He isn't small at all. He is only 11" tall but he is long as hell. 14" in width.

[Magneticzero]

...that was the last LOTR product I'll ever order :)


Not because I'm disappointed but because it's officially over!!!

[JohnyBoo]

terribly sad....hubby does not agree.

[Hells of Iron]

Very impressive. Love the pose.
It seems like there will be some debris from the battle on the base - looks like two crushed helms and a spear. Cool touch. :vik

[phanatix999]

Isn't HUGE? It's the size (not scale) of the RWoS's Steed... laying down.
So it is a good size!

[Heart Of Stone]

Is that a tiny little Helm laying on the ground in front of the Mumak ?

[jlcmsu]

Looks like it.

[pordey2]

Isn't the helm a bit big you think?

[Fubeca]

Still thinking if I am impressed. :rolleyes

[RichPG]

Maybe it's not really the size that bothers me (although the Battle Troll gives you more Poly / $ at 9" x 14" & $175)

The problem is it's dying. The Haradrim statue was equally as big a turn off to me. Who would want a Cave Troll statue, slumped on the ground dead after Lego & Co killed him? I want to see the characters alive & in action, not dying or dead.

[dayhiker1]

i love the mumak but not particular about the pose esp since the base is empty.
i wanted a mumak like in the lotr exhibit but that would be so difficult to ship. i have the GW model and that looks cool with all the haradon the howdah and the dead rohirrim on the base. i was hoping for something similar.

this figure might do. i ordered it and cant wait to ssee it in sdcc.

[RoboDad3000]

I think people are really getting hung up on the height of the statue, which has nothing to do with the scale of the statue. This piece is 11" tall, but the beast is lying down. If it had been standing, the statue would be closer to 20" tall (including the height of the tower).

Looks pretty darn good to me, although I admit I would have preferred a charging, bellowing version. I suspect they went this route to keep the overall size of the piece more reasonable.

Now I'm really hoping I win Josh's Haradrim piece (which I never had much interest in before). :D

[WetaNutt]

I LOVE this piece! :elef

[tielo1]

Don't care for this statue. Ik looks empty without it's "driver".
I'm not getting this one...

[Deadly Dagger]

I think it kicks ass...but might pass only due to price...

$$:bat $$

[THE WARG BEAST]

Not a very good pose IMO, but still a great looking statue. Will have to buy though....the only Mumak statue we'll have from SS..

WG :lvader

[Dassy]

Price not bad,but agree it does look a bit `Empty`!:p

[Viking28]

This piece is awesome!!!!!:rock

[tomandshell]

I suppose the base is empty because he is falling down and everybody got out of the way. A stomping mumak with an empty base would have looked worse, I think. If we had to have an empty base, I think it is better with a falling mumak instead. Plus, it keeps with the established theme of releasing only impaled/wounded characters from Harad. I'm just glad they gave us a mumak at all before the end. Of course, now I've ordered my last LotR piece ever from Sideshow...
:wave

[stumpy]

I dont like the pose. Its missing a few spears and arrows. It just looks like its falling over.
And did SS/Weta change the paint the use? From Legolas/Arod, Aragon and this it seems the paints are brighter and "cleaner"

[Fubeca]

I think people are really getting hung up on the height of the statue, which has nothing to do with the scale of the statue. This piece is 11" tall, but the beast is lying down. If it had been standing, the statue would be closer to 20" tall (including the height of the tower).

Yeah you are right! If it was standing it would be 20" tall, and I think that is what is hanging a few people up. I'd rather have a 20" tall standing mumak than an 11" falling down version. But it's better than nothing, and is still very cool! :elef

[Daelith2000]

Looks like the only thing I'm picking up this year will be the Battle Troll...course, that might change depending on how Aragorn on Horseback looks, etc.

Disappointed with the Mumak; would've been nice to have a rampaging Mumak with just a driver, even with an empty carriage. The driver would've at least given some sense of the majesty of these gigantic creatures.

Hard for me to spend 300.00 on a falling, dying mumak, no matter how big small/big the sculpt.

[RoboDad3000]

Yeah you are right! If it was standing it would be 20" tall, and I think that is what is hanging a few people up. I'd rather have a 20" tall standing mumak than an 11" falling down version.
And that's fine, but that wasn't exactly my point. My point was that some people were giving the impression that the scale was too small, based on the 11" height.

[Heart Of Stone]

Too bad we aren't going to get a "Harad w/ head on a spear" Bust to go along with this and the Harad Statue . :p

[Winged Shadows]

It's pricey and looks pretty bland.
I'll pass.

[lcummins]

It's pricey and looks pretty bland.

Bland? WS, have you been smokin' over at Bodie's? :lol

[sswlotr]

preodered one. too bad there is no driver (even a dead one). but still it's a mumak! can't pass it.

[jlcmsu]

Man, you all doubting this piece will get a chance starting next week to see just how big this item really is.

[Heart Of Stone]

I like the Mumak !
I'm just going to lay my other Rider and Steed statues on their sides so it doesn't look out of place . ;)

[JSAuctionService]

Well, I'll certainly own it, but I'm honestly not thrilled with the pose.

I sure wish it were upright and charging, and not down and dying.

I'll wait until I can get one at a deal in the Ebay flood, or from a
good board dealer who offers discounts.

JS :wave

[Sir Tristram]

What's brought it down? I mean, I see the gash in its ankle...but, Where are all the arrows stuck in it's body???? :legolas

[jlcmsu]

Don't expect much of a flood on this at 3k thats pretty small. I actually expect this to go up in price.

[jlcmsu]

Well, to tell you how muc I think of this. I bought the Harad Soldier to go with it. These two will :rock together

[scriff]

I've place my order for this, but had to cancel my order on the battle troll, as my wife likes the mumakil as well - therefore no real disagreements in ordering this piece!!

Scriff

[Wetafiend]

Why no love for the Harad Soldier? While not a "OMG" visual stunner, it is a really detailed piece. I'm all about the detail.

As for the Mumak - :rock . I'm reading complaints about why he doesn't look like a pin cushion full of arrows and spears. Imagine shipping that! While not the rage induced behemoth, stomping on horsed riders I still love it.

[tomandshell]

What brought down the mumak? The film shows one being brought down by Eowyn, who (a sword in both hands, Merry steering) gives both front and rear legs a slice as she rides underneath, through the legs. However, she rides through from front to back, so if this is meant to ber her mumak, then the wounds should be on the other side of the legs, and both front and back should be wounded. Showing the wounds on the rear facing side of the legs is not accurate. Of course, it could be another one, but incredible feats like bringing down a mumak single-handedly can only be accomplished by main characters, and we didn't see another one die like this. I find it highly unlikely that Bruce the Rohirrim managed to copy Eowyn and bring one down by himself. If so, I feel sorry for him, since he didn't get any screen time. My theory is that Bruce managed to kill this one by slicing just ONE pair of legs, a feat more impressive than Eowyn, but he received no credit or glory because the camera was busy filming over by Legolas. Of course, this could also be the background mumak that was swarmed by the Army of the Dead. In that case, it was not the wounds that brought it down, but rather the ghosts. Perhaps this is a sculpture of a mumak being painfully devoured by zombies who have unfortunately been omitted for reasons of scale. Any other theories?
PS: I am not being serious about this...

[Figwit]

I think this looks great!!! It's really dang BIG too!! Don't understand why so many people are complaining about it being "small".
I like it but was only going to buy it if it was BIG!
I would LOVE to see what you consider BIG!!:lol

[Lookin4Precious]

What brought down the mumak? The film shows one being brought down by Eowyn, who (a sword in both hands, Merry steering) gives both front and rear legs a slice as she rides underneath, through the legs. However, she rides through from front to back, so if this is meant to ber her mumak, then the wounds should be on the other side of the legs, and both front and back should be wounded. Showing the wounds on the rear facing side of the legs is not accurate. Of course, it could be another one, but incredible feats like bringing down a mumak single-handedly can only be accomplished by main characters, and we didn't see another one die like this. I find it highly unlikely that Bruce the Rohirrim managed to copy Eowyn and bring one down by himself. If so, I feel sorry for him, since he didn't get any screen time. My theory is that Bruce managed to kill this one by slicing just ONE pair of legs, a feat more impressive than Eowyn, but he received no credit or glory because the camera was busy filming over by Legolas. Of course, this could also be the background mumak that was swarmed by the Army of the Dead. In that case, it was not the wounds that brought it down, but rather the ghosts. Perhaps this is a sculpture of a mumak being painfully devoured by zombies who have unfortunately been omitted for reasons of scale. Any other theories?

wow.. waaay too much time on your hands!

There were PLENTY of of Mumaks on the filed and how they all died varies. This one is dying.... while granted, some arrows should have been included... they aren't. Its dying, done deal.

[SwoopingCloakofSureness]

Are you sure he is dying? Maybe he tripped or got tired on the battlefield.

Those gashs are merely just flesh wounds. :p

[tomandshell]

I believe you're on to something! We have misinterpreted the sculpt: he is not falling down, he is getting UP from out of a deep sleep. "Woah!! Was today the day we were attacking Gondor? I forgot to set my alarm! Wait up!!!"

[Figwit]

Maybe he had too much to drink??? :puke

[Heart Of Stone]

Maybe this is the Mumak that was hit by the other Mumak when Eomer speared the Harad and his body tugged his Mumaks ear . We are just seeing it fall without the other Mumak that tripped him up . Hell , I don't really care ! Eowyn doesn't have her Helmet on and the Morgul Lord is still standing . I agree with the "essence" thing !

[Radagaster]

I don't quite buy how big those gashes are at his ankles! You'd need trolls to produce those big a slash!

[RoboDad3000]

You have obviously forgotten how sharp Eowyn's sword was. She was able to slice through the neck of a Fell Beast in two swings. She should have no trouble gashing the legs of a Mumak. ;)

[GrimaSnailTongue]

The gashes are too big actually, but that doesnt bother me really, nor the lack of arrows. Realistically, they couldnt have added a buch of Haradrim or flattened Rohirrum without them looking silly or toy like at this scale. Not to mention the production nightmare it would cause. If I can eventually get it for around $225, then ,maybe I'll pick it up. IMO, Gandalf & Shadowfax was their last great piece. I haven't been overly impressed with antything since....until Sauron I suppose.

[B Electronic]

Just in case someone's missed it, but there's a dead driver on lying trampled in the sand on the base. You cant see it very well, but it has clearly the color pattern of the Haradrim Soldier.

Take a look:
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/9334_image03.jpg

The Haradrim is under the leg. It looks like a little square black blob.

[Sir Tristram]

It just looks bland....it would have been more interesting with some arrows sticking out of him!

[WetaWork]

The Haradrim is under the leg. It looks like a little square black blob.

You sure that's not a Mumak dropping? :elef :sancho

[serfup]

i agree there needs to be things sticking in the beast that would explain it dying. Also where are all the Harid.? They have arrows coming out of the Berserker and on busts, why nothing on this guy. Hey for $300 there should be more detail.

[FrodoEyes]

I never thought little mini Haradhrim were going to be on the Mumak, and while it would have been nice, can you imagine the outrage of the fans when they say it's like having the mini Morgul Lord all over again! And they would be a pain in the ass for the sculptors, and probably would have been a good excuse to bump the price up even more ;)
It did look a bit plain to me too, but on a couple of the close ups you can see the skin is very well detailed. And MAN how did they get that tower at that angle! Plus a nice Pelennor fields base, with what looks like helmets or something on it...and it's bloody massive too. I like!

[Lynxje]

I don't like the 'dying' pose and I like it even less that his basket is empty, where are all the haradhrim, they couldn't all have fallen out, the creature isn't even down all the way.

To me, this is a very disappointing conclusion to a great series of statues, perhabs the best there will ever be, making the end all the more bitter.

[Dassy]

will get a chance starting next week to see just how big this item really is.

Mumak Officially showing at SDCC Josh?

[jlcmsu]

Yes, it is.

[Diesel]

it's not that big according to the dimensions...

do the listed dimensions (width / depth) mean the base, or the actual statue...?

[spaceman]

I like this, I think.

It's definitely an interesting choice. There were rumors many months back of a dead mumak, in the aftermath of the pellenor. This is stil very kinetic though, charging, sreaming, crashing down. It may also have been their way to avoid the tricky issue of a dozen mini-Harad. I did quite like that one driver though, he at least would have been a nice touch. The idea's great, but not 100% sure yet on the execution. It'll be nice to see in person.

:clap

[TURINS BANE]

I'm not really impressed at the moment. This had the potential
of being the most impressive, and best statue yet. But it failed, the
charging 24 inch, Mumak, would have been so much better.:\ :(

[jlcmsu]

do the listed dimensions (width / depth) mean the base, or the actual statue...?

I'm thinking both basically.

[Agent23]

Yea, this piece is NOT the same Mumak that Weta has on display at the LOTR Trilogy Exhibit.

Nor, is it the same from the Gollum DVD, which I think might of been the same from the Exhibit.

If it was, I definitely would of got one for myself. I would of paid $500 for that one too. It's huge and awesome.

I am just not happy with the pose on the one we are getting, at all....

[TURINS BANE]

I am just not happy with the pose on the one we are getting, at all....


Agreed, Also $300 for a mediumish statue isn't too cool either. This should have been Cave Troll huge or bigger, and it should have been standing or charging in all i'ts glory. This could have been right up there with the Cave Troll, as the best beast statue. and they blew it IMO, I'm not in favour of the dying pose either, very undignified for an awesome beast like this. "Not the intimidating war machine, I was hoping for."

[AsuraZak]

I wonder how many inches the Hadash will take up, my guess "3-4.

"4-11 = 7 inch Mumuk. hmm, worth the $300? We'll see

[CaptainCaveTroll]

I wonder how many inches the Hadash will take up, my guess "3-4.

He's only got a tiddler then???

[Heart Of Stone]

Hello , just checking to see if this thread is safe . :rolleyes

[Hells of Iron]

worth the $300?

According to Sideshows site, by comparison, the Wraith/Steed base is smaller than the Mumak base looking at the Width and Depth. So take a ruler and measure 11 inches high on a Wraith base if you have one and that will give you an approx. size of the statue. Pretty frickin big if you ask me.

[Heart Of Stone]

Damn , that is pretty big ! :elef

[jlcmsu]

Yeah this thing isn't gonna be tiny.

[leebgb]

Yeah, I think it will be a lot bigger than people are expecting it to be.

[Seion]

Yeah, I agree that it will probably be a pretty decent size. I'm anxious to see how people react when they get to see it in person. I want to know if the skin detail is on par with the CT. Unless the details completely blow people away, this is one of those pieces that I will be happy to live without.

Seion

[TURINS BANE]

I was thinking, if only the Mumak was standing up right it would look excellent..Maybe they could remold it for us they
said i'ts for the fans right.?

[pitchin4eva]

it needs to be standing up with arrows stuck in its legs & the chain of spikes between the tusks

[TURINS BANE]

Yeah, come on SS, change the sculpt, so i'ts standing upright and charging in all it's glory.:bow

[FlyAndFight]

Yeah, come on SS, change the sculpt, so i'ts standing upright and charging in all it's glory.

I agree. Without at least the arrows and battlefield debris or perhaps at least one Haradrim, it's too antiseptic.

But I must admit that the tower looks amazing and the mumak itself looks good.

[TURINS BANE]

We should get a Petition up, for them to change it so i'ts standing up, that would be so much better. If they do that it will look great.

[dayhiker1]

hi guys,

i agree that the mumak sculpt looks empty. in its falling pose, it looks good with its slashes on the legs but the base is empty! it is a battlefield btw and they need it strewn with debris and dead orcs/rohirrim. also if the howdah is clean and empty vs in ruins and empty, it makes a difference. maybe they can have acouple of harad warriors falling or hanging from it (remember the troll holding the guard to show the scale?).

[jlcmsu]

They aren't going to change the sculpt now. That would be a major delay and then you'd never get it. In person pics I think will show how cool this pose is.

[B Electronic]

People, there is a Haradrim lying dead on the ground and there's warfare debris aswell (spear e.a.). Just check the pictures better. And stop nagging about changing the sculpt. They wont.

[Dark Enemy of Middle Earth]

Changed my mind, loved it at first but just watched the Gollum DVD that you got free with TTT and about 4 mins in there is a fantastic Mumak statue in the background.
:google
Its hugh and standing upright, me wants that one, i wants it for my own.

[TURINS BANE]

Me to, it's just so much better, then this one. I just don't understand why the couldn't have had the Mumak upright and charging. Just like the one we saw one the gollum
dvd, It couldn't have been that hard for them to have done it like that. :(

[moonlightdrive21]

It just looks like an elephant with stuff on it!! This will be about as exciting as Shelob, which is pretty much just a spider. :bang :naughty

Dave

[leebgb]

I think the statue is awesome. I can't wait to get it! :banana

It would be cool if there were some arrows sticking out of him but I can deal with that. I actually prefer this dying Mumakil over the one of the Gollum dvd. Yeah, the one on the dvd is BIG but it's just standing there on all four legs. Boring....

A charging Mumakil would be cool but I'm just as happy with this one. :rock

P.S.

B Electronic, where is the dead Haradrim? I see some of the debris but not a Haradrim. :dunno

[elwood49]

What everyone keeps saying is a dead Haradrim looks like a helmet to me.

[gOzum]

I think the dimensions for width & length are the size of the base, height is obviously the size of the Mumak. This will have the largest base, but may not have the biggest statue size, but if you look at the proportions, he will be huge.

Regarding the details like mini arrows and spikey tusks, I think they are missing as it would be almost impossible to remove from the silicon mould without breaking them, let alone ship them in one piece.

Can you imagine all the minty-mint collectors demanding another Mumak be shipped after their first one arrived with 2 of the 389 pin sized arrows broken!

:lol

[jlcmsu]

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[Eleventy1]

Is that Eomer's spear on the base??:yay

[elwood49]

This will have the largest base, but may not have the biggest statue size, but if you look at the proportions, he will be huge.

That's exactly what I was afraid of. The current Rider & Steed pieces fit perfectly on my shelves depth-wise, but there is only 1-1.5" of room left.

The fact that the Howdah sticks out several inches to the back is fine, but I just hope the base is not too wide. I have the perfect place for the Mumak to go now, but the base looks like it might not fit!

[Hells of Iron]

I think the dimensions for width & length are the size of the base, height is obviously the size of the Mumak. This will have the largest base, but may not have the biggest statue size, but if you look at the proportions, he will be huge.

Finally, someone who understands!!! :lol
You can't compare Mumak to the Cave Troll or Balrog because of the scale differences. The Mumak will always look puny compared to them. But when viewed on its own, and only when you think of the vast area this statue covers because of the size of the Mumak in the movies, can you appreciate how big this statue is. Weta could have easily scaled down and given us a smaller Mumak, yet they didn't. For the scale and base size, they've given us one huge beast.
As far as arrows go...I doubt it will happen. Again, look at the size of the Rohirrim compared to the Mumak in the films, and think of how small the arrows will be on the statue.
Nothing, nor anyones opinion of this piece is going to change my mind as far as purchasing. My only problem with the Mumak and my only question to Weta is...why stop now when you've come so close to perfect. :dunno
Thats all folks!!!

[LOTR Fan]

It just keeps losing its appeal to me, one solitary spear on the base. :dunno This poor Mumak never stood a chance, he is so bare, I am not sure I will keep my order.

[Sir Tristram]

If that is a helmet on th eground by its foot, then the scale is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off!
DAMN!
Those thing swere GIGANTIC! They where stepping on horses for crying out loud! A helmet would have looked like an ant!

[Hells of Iron]

If that is a helmet on th eground by its foot, then the scale is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off!

Not if you compare it to this photo. You can see a spear just left of the Mumaks tusk. I'd say its right in scale.

www.framecaplib.com/lotrlib/html/episodes/images/rotk/rotk1686.htm (http://www.framecaplib.com/lotrlib/html/episodes/images/rotk/rotk1686.htm)

[tomandshell]

Didn't they mention in one of the commentaries that they "cheated" the scale of the mumakil from shot to shot depending on what they needed/wanted? The difference in size between the mumakil and Rohirrim varies throughout the scene. Look at the prop one lying behind Eowyn during her confrontation with the Witch King. It's nowhere near as large as its digital counterparts.

[Sir Tristram]

Yeah, but that's the lame prop they have laying there when Merry found Pippin!
That was NOT as big as the CGi that came roaring into the battle and crushed all those damn Rohirrim and their horses!

[jlcmsu]

HOI exactly!! When you just focus on the piece its really pretty big.

As far as the base being plain. What we now have to have full battle going on the bases as well. Of all the statues I have Shelob has the most extras on the base. Other than that if they have wrongs or something extra its pretty plain.

[Hells of Iron]

Yeah, but that's the lame prop they have laying there when Merry found Pippin! That was NOT as big as the CGi that came roaring into the battle and crushed all those damn Rohirrim and their horses!

Here are two more images to compare with the Sideshow one I have linked to. One is with some Orcs where you can compare a helm to the large toe of the Mumak. The other shows Eowyn I think close by the leg of a Mumak. Again, the helmet and big toe. All very similar. If they aren't exact, they are very close in scale.
Most likely camera perspective is what made it seem that they were 400 times larger.

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[Sir Tristram]

I don't know....I guess....But they cheated their collective asses off with those CGi Shots and the actual physical props!

Think of the Mumka rider! He was standing on it and he looked so small! Especially when Eomer stuck him with the spear and he feel and hung on the Mumaks ear! ....Also think of Legolas sliding off one of their trunks!
....Come on, they were supposed to be monsterously huge!