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Here's the chat log from the time Brant entered the room. He got pulled away at the end, but will be back on Sunday.

Some quick highlights that I remember:
- Constant begging and pleading for Faramir :)
- Why we did not get Barad-Dur
- Gondorian Pippin vs Fellowship Pippin
- "I think you've seen most of the unreleased protos"
- Why we did not get the full Argonath.
- Shipping items in '06.
- Brief talk of Galadriel's mirror.
- General talk about piece selection for the last year.
(ties into no Faramir, Denethor, etc)
- <Brant> "I honestly, sincerely, and truly wish that we could produce all the items on the Sideshow drawing board. It's never easy to delay or cancel a project... ever."
- Josh and WN make an appearance on the webcam.

Major thanks to Brant for the great chat. It was nice to have someone actually answer some questions. Most companies would have just given us the cold shoulder.

Lots to read, so read on!




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<GRUSON> no
<Dernhelm313> I <3 RoboDad
<Tielo1> There is Brant
<Grima> hey Brant
<Beruthiel> hi Brant!
<Estel> hey Brant
<Brant> Hola folkses!
* SSF-RoboDad blushes
<SSF-Swoops> hey
<Dernhelm313> So, Brant, at last we meet again for the first time for the last time.
<SSF-WS> hello brant
<SSF-RoboDad> Hey Brant!
<SSF-Aurea23> hey brant
<Brant> lol
<Tielo1> It's time for the questions
<Brant> Indeed
<[SSF]-lcummins> Hi Brant! Take cover now while you can!
<SSF-Aurea23> i got up 3 am for this char
<Brant> Fire away
<Beruthiel> they are attacing the booth on the webcam!
<SSF-Aurea23> chat
<Dernhelm313> Whyyyyyyyyyyy
* GRUSON slaps SSF-Swoops around a bit with a large trout
<Brant> Holy moly, Aurea! I'm not worthy!
<SSF-RoboDad> It's a madhouse, a madhouse!
<SSF-Swoops> LOL
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<deadmann> Attack of the PopBots!!!
<SSF-Swoops> i like trout :)
* [SSF]-lcummins slaps GRUSON around a bit with a large trout
<Brant> Trout and uffins
<Estel> yoda?
<SSF-Aurea23> i need answers so i can sleep at night
<SSF-Aurea23> ;p;
<Brant> muffins
<Brant> :)
<Beruthiel> Muffin is my baby! :)
<Brant> If answers you seek, questions you must pose
<SSF-RoboDad> That would be Muffin, the Marauding Mumak!
<Beruthiel> are you settled in now Brant?
<Dernhelm313> Brant, could you help us to understand why we were dropped like a hot potatoe?
<SSF-RoboDad> Could you talk... forward? ;)
<SSF-Aurea23> will weta continue the Lotr line themselves ?
<Brant> Wooo... don't hold back.
<Tielo1> We collected great statues for a lot of dollars and just with the collection ALMOST complete it STOPS!!!!
<SSF-praXITas> good way to start =)
<Brant> Of course, I would never say it like that.
<SSF-praXITas> lol
<Brant> Ever.
<Grima> Here's one for you Brant: How come none of the Rohirrim characters are represented on a horse?
<Beruthiel> yes Brant, why was the line ended so ummm, quickly, with no warning to the collectors?
<Tielo1> He's gone right?
<Beruthiel> is that an evil grin Brant?
<Brant> I don't believe it should have come with no warning...
<Brant> There were signs...
<Brant> Hints...
<Brant> Intimations...
<Beruthiel> where?
<[SSF]-lcummins> Is Sideshow trying to ship all the LOTR statues and pieces before the end of the year?
* SSF-RoboDad grabs bag of Popcorn...
<Brant> No, there are a couple of pieces that will ship in 2006. Credit card relief, of a sort.
<Dernhelm313> Don't we deserve better than a hint, though?
<Tielo1> No it would end in 2005, we still have 6 months
<[SSF]-lcummins> Thank you!
<Beruthiel> all we all knew was that the license expired at the end of 2005, never thought the middle of the year would be it
<SSF_SoNS> Thank God
<SSF-ramblinj> Good thing about shipping in 06.
<SSF-RoboDad> Beru, the "end of 2005" thing was just our own rumors, really.
<Brant> We agonized over the decision. With the end in sight, Sideshow and WETA had conversations about what pieces would be produced in the final year.
<Dernhelm313> Who exactly decided what got made and what did not?
<Grima> I second that,and so does my credit card :)
<Grima> good question Dernhelm,I'm curious about that too
<SSF_SoNS> still the bustcollectors were left out with not much
<Tielo1> Why not ask loyal customers to make that dessision?
<SSF-Aurea23> will weta continue the Lotr line themselves ?
* SSF-Swoops slaps Brant around a bit with a large trout
<Brant> It's a group decision. Richard Taylor and the WETA crew certainly had their suggestions and preferences. Someone would get inspired about a piece, ala Legolas and Gimli
<[SSF]-lcummins> Loyal customers don't see the business side of things...
<Beruthiel> really, there are only a few essential pieces missing from the line that would complete. Faramir and Denethor!
<WetaFan> Brant, Did Weta like doing monsters more than human sculptures?
<Brant> Sideshow would make suggestions also, as well as New Line.
<Dernhelm313> But with the end in sight, why not finish out the primary characters
<Tielo1> Nice piece Brant WRONG DECISION!
<SSF-RoboDad> But everyone has slightly different ideas of what those essential pieces are, don't you think?
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<Brant> Sometimes HUGE lists would be generated, and then slowly but surely, it would be streamlined into a more managable product list.
<Beruthiel> we have all thos orcs and trolls, yet are missing primary characters!
<SSF-WS> What other items were on the short list?
<BadEggTim> Good Morning Mr. B
<SSF-Aurea23> arwen on asolath
<Asura-> Yeah, several orcs, yet no faramir?
<Brant> Different sculptors have different preferences. THere's more freedom with teh monsters, not as much pressure to look exactly like an actory.
<Tielo1> NO FARAMIR!!!
<Brant> Actor... oops
<SSF-Aurea23> my wife was waiting for faromir
<SSF-Aurea23> its the only piece she wanted
<Brant> Robodad, you're absolutely right.
<Brant> Morning Mr Miller!
<SSF-WS> Yeah robo... like me.. i couldnt care less for Faramir.
<SSF-WS> I just wanted a large Armoured Troll!
<SSF-ramblinj> If shipping in 06 is a possibility, would it be possible to persuade Weta to produce a Faramir as a limited exclusive?
<Dernhelm313> lol
<Grima> were you concerned that human sculpts would not sell as well as "monster" sculpts?
<Dernhelm313> Or an Eomer?
<GravityEyelids> b/c the orcs and trolls are more essential than faramir
<GravityEyelids> ;)
<Grima> *begs for an Eomer on Steed*
<Brant> At this point, there will not be any new sculpture.
<Tielo1> Very disapointing. Are you goning to make a Monkey of the King Kong line?
<SSF-RoboDad> I like Grima's question!
<Grima> man,that hurts
<SSF-WS> The sculptors found it difficult to sculpt humans and attain satisfactory likeness...and with the end in sight.. they went with pieces they could cope with easier.
<SSF-WS> that sum it up?
<SSF-Aurea23> will weta continue the Lotr line themselves ?
<SSF-WS> -ish.
<SSF-ramblinj> Any idea if some of these pieces already exist in prototype form?
<Dernhelm313> Of course, Gravity. There was this one orc, #234 in the Mines of Moria scene, the one in the corner, I must have him! Who needs an Eomer.
<Asura-> In the end, it's all made up of humans nearly
<Brant> Not really... we were still tackling Viggo, Orlando, etc...
<Brant> ?
<Tielo1> So they took the easy way?
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<[SSF]-lcummins> Why no new Universal Monsters for ComicCon?
<SSF-WS> yeah...i suppose.
<GravityEyelids> Dernhelm, thats liek my fav orc evar!
<Dernhelm313> I <3 You!
<vircuser> Chris...this is kookie....is something wrong with the Java log in
<GravityEyelids> thx
<SSF-ramblinj> Sideshow is doing such an incredible job with human likeness. Have you considered a license without weta?
<Brant> I honestly, sincerely, and truly wish that we could produce all the items on the Sideshow drawing board. It's never easy to delay or cancel a project... ever.
<Brant> It's been considered...
<Tielo1> Well then don't
<SSF-ramblinj> Has it been rejected??? :)
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<Dernhelm313> Brant, I understand what you are saying, and of course I understand the artists perspective, but had I known that certain groupings would never be completed I would have thought twice about investing so much into the line.
<SideshowDusty> vircuser - yes the Java chat is FUBAR - use an IRC program
<SSF-ramblinj> Agreed 100%
<SSF_SoNS> me too
<Kris_101> I would love to see all the protos that never made it out
<Tielo1> me too!!!
<Dernhelm313> I was never into the beasties, and am still not.
<GravityEyelids> agreed!
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<SSF-Aurea23> can we by protos that didnt make it......
<Brant> I understand. I'm a completist with Hasbro's STar Wars line, which is much less expensive. But according to Hasbro's counts, they're just releasing their 500th figure (I think the actual count is higher, truly).
<SSF-ramblinj> Yeah... they lie I think :)
<SSF-Azog> I agree brant
<SSF-Aurea23> i am a completist in the LOTR line
<Brant> If you think about it, a complete collection of $5 figures, even $500, is SO much easier to handle than 180 items, most of which are $100 and up.
<SSF-Azog> gotta be way more from Hasbro
<SSF-Aurea23> from you guys
<SideshowDusty> Galadriel is coming up next on webcam - FYI
<Brant> How much punishment can you take?
<vircuser> Thanks Dusty
<vircuser> I'm really Kookie
<Brant> I think you've seen most of the unreleased protos, honestly.
<Dernhelm313> So hobbiest to hobbiest, you can agree that we got hosed a bit in the end, right?
<Brant> Moria Cemetary
<SSF-ramblinj> We'll I've taken 180 x $100 amount of punishment
<Brant> Hobbiton Factory
<Brant> Armored Lurtz
<SSF-Aurea23> brant i can take a little more
<SSF-ramblinj> I would love that Armored Lurtz!
<SSF-WS> armored lurtz turned ugluk. :p
<vircuser> I missed the beginning but I think you guys did an amazing job with the LOTR line
<Dernhelm313> Not to take anything away from the AWESOME job you guys have done up until this point.
<Grima> I would certainly like a little more punishement too :)
<WetaFan> Brant: Where there any plans for Barad Dur???
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<SSF-Aurea23> i wanted moria cemetry and the hobbiton factory
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<SSF-Aurea23> especially after going to the lotr display wanted hobbiton more than anything
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<SSF-Aurea23> but MUST have farmomir
<Dernhelm313> Also Brant, are SS and WETA parting on anything less than great terms?
<Guest9> hyarion.redirectme.net/ss <-- working java client for ss.
<[SSF]-lcummins> Brant, how about a give-away sometime in the future with some of the prototypes as prizes?
<Estel> farmomir?
<SSF-ramblinj> So what's the scoop on Pippin? Why Gondor over Fellowship? Seemed to be a lot more demand for the Fellowship version.
<SSF-Swoops> is 'the book' still in talks?
<SSF-Aurea23> i am contemplating getting someone to sculpt one
<Brant> We had ambitions of doing Baradur, but it wasn't allowed, due to the DM piece
<SSF-ramblinj> :( Well crap
* SSF-Swoops slaps DM
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<SSF-Aurea23> damm
<GravityEyelids> damn DM :p
<Dernhelm313> I don't know of this Farmomir you speak of, Aurea...;)
<Brant> Same thing for the Argonauth enviro. The DVD's blocked us from producing the entire enviro later.
<SSF-Aurea23> doule damm
<Tielo1> Is WETA doing this?
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<Estel> Those were like New Line decisions?
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<Brant> Nah, it has to do with various licensing agreements...
<SSF-Swoops> nemo won't be too happy to hear that
<SSF-Aurea23> can i buy the prototype
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<SSF-ramblinj> Poor Nemo
<Brant> :)
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<SSF-TC> what ho chaps!!!
<SSF-pordey2> poor nemo? what are we talking about
<Brant> 'The Book' is still on our minds... a dream...
<SSF-pordey2> hi TC
<Tielo1> poo
<SSF-Aurea23> i dont mind paying the shipping to Australia
<WetaFan> Brant: Is Weta 100% finished with LOTR line?
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<vircuser> I don't know if this has been asked but does everything left have to be shipped by 2006
<Dernhelm313> Just a dream?
<SSF-pordey2> 110%
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<deadmann> So DM was the ONLY business licensed to sell Barad-dur and NOT Weta/SS??
<SSF-pordey2> ?
<SSF-TC> i spy Galadriel
<Tielo1> Hope WETA's other lines don't do a thing!!
<Brant> Not yet a reality, but something we REALLY want to do (dream)
<Beruthiel> oh, I'd love to win a Galadriel
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<Beruthiel> :)
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<Dernhelm313> I hope it works out for you guys. It seems like such a fun product to work on.
<Brant> Everything will be shipped by March-ish of 2006.
<SSF-RoboDad> Mee too!
<vircuser> Thanks Brant
<SSF-ramblinj> If Weta is finished, I hope Sideshow can get a piece of the license. You guys are doing some great work.
<Grima> that improved Galadriel looks really great
<vircuser> Is there a word of the day
<Brant> Huge thanks, Ramblin.
<SSF-Aurea23> just need the mirror
<[SSF]-lcummins> There is
<Brant> The mirror...
<SSF-ramblinj> No, thank you!
<Asura> Everything, even any thing left in the back (inventory)?
<SSF-pordey2> improved?
<Brant> Someday, I'll 'leak' some photos of the early Galadriel sculpt, with the mirror.
<Brant> It is HUGE
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<SSF-Aurea23> kool
<SSF-ramblinj> SWEET!
<SSF-RoboDad> I'd take "huge"! ;)
<Brant> Would have double-plused the price of the statue... unfortunately.
<SSF-TC> nice!!!
<Tielo1> Don't want to give you a hard time but if we didn't love the art of lotr we wouldn't be here....
<SSF-pordey2> would love the mirror
<vircuser> can you tell me lcummins :)
<Dernhelm313> Cool!
<SSF-Aurea23> thats ok
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<SSF_SoNS> would have piad double
<SSF_SoNS> paid
<SSF-Aurea23> i would have bought it with the mirror
<Grima> compare the official SS/W pics with the SDCC pics,and look at the face SSF-pordey
<Dernhelm313> Sell it seperately!
<[SSF]-lcummins> I think I would get shot if I did
<Brant> But you guys, here, are the best of the best!
<Dernhelm313> *or on Ebay...*
<Grima> I would have paid the price for the mirror :)
<SSF-Aurea23> thanks
<Pauluz> what is the time there guys?
<Estel> thanks
<Brant> This is the Fellowship, here.
<deadmann> Brant, Is SS & WETA parting on "good" terms? Do you ever anticipate or look forward to working with them again in the future?
<SSF-RoboDad> Sell it separately! Many people would buy it!
<SSF_SoNS> i would
<Beruthiel> good question deadmann
<SSF-RoboDad> No, really they would! ;)
<SSF-ramblinj> I love the Galadriel statue, but wonder why it was picked over a Faramir or Eomer. Especially since we already have a Galadriel bust.
<SSF-pordey2> ok grima
<Brant> It's been an amazing journey, not to get too sappy, but it really has been...
<Dernhelm313> God, Galadriel looks good.
<SSF-WS> hope everything is still cool.
<SSF-RoboDad> I can't wait for mine!
<Pauluz> what's the time over at comic con?
<Dernhelm313> We have an Eomer bust too
<Brant> We have the deepest respect for the artistry at WETA. They manage to innovate and create, under amazing pressure with the movies.
<Tielo1> But it it's at a dead end.........
<Lynx> Not really an answer is it Brant? ;)
<Grima> you and all the folks at Sideshow have made this great for us Brant,of course WETA too :)
<Brant> :)
<Brant> hugs
<SSF-Swoops> hugs?
* SSF_SoNS hugs all
<SSF-Aurea23> i wish i started earlier .... you should see how much i have spent to complete the collection
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<GRUSON> on that note
<Dernhelm313> don't give me a hug, give me a Eomer on Steed!
<Brant> But honestly, although Sideshow and WETA are both moving on to new projects...
* GRUSON says contest time
<SSF-pordey2> Great improvement... The "new" galadriel looks fantastic! ! ! !
<Brant> We're parting with mutual respect.
<Grima> see what I mean pordey?
<SSF-TC> brb
<Dernhelm313> hmmm.
<SSF-pordey2> :D
<SSF-ramblinj> Why not extend the LOTR license? Too expensive? Did Weta want to stop working on LOTR?
<Beruthiel> doesn't sound like a really happy parting there
<SideshowDusty> I absolutely love Galadriel's dress
<Tielo1> And so the collectors get the boot
<SSF-Aurea23> will weta continue the Lotr line themselves ?
<Dernhelm313> Thats what I tell my kid about her scumbucket father.
<SSF-Aurea23> still no answer ?
<SSF-pordey2> Galadriels dress is Magic!
<deadmann> I think we All really appreciate everthing you & the SS team have done to bring all of us LOTR Freaks the grat stuf over the years, Brant. KUDOS!!
<Pauluz> WHAT'S THE TIME OVER THERE????
<SSF-RoboDad> 10:56 AM
<Beruthiel> it's 11:00AM in SD
<Lynx> Sounds all very 'politicaly correct' for splitting up after a big argument :
<SSF-Aurea23> 4 am here
<Asura> Brant: What if you guys find a Balrog in the back (inventory check), after the license expires. Can it still be sold some how? Just wishful thinking
<SSF-pordey2> is Josh there today?
<Beruthiel> he will be pordey
<Pauluz> finally, thanks
<SSF-pordey2> soon 8pm here...
<SSF-TC> back
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<Brant> Aurea, I don't have any info for you.
<SSF-Aurea23> k thanks brant
<Grima> 8 PM in France
<Brant> Asura...
<Brant> That's a very wishful thought... ;)
<Brant> I like it.
<Dernhelm313> So once and for all, both SS and WETA are dropping the line for good.
<SSF-RoboDad> it's how we of the Fellowship think... ;)
<Brant> I am so looking forward to meeting Josh today, but he's not here yet.
<[SSF]-lcummins> He just flew out this morning...
<Dernhelm313> great guy, that josh.
<Tielo1> Did sales go down for the LOTR stuf?
<SSF-ramblinj> I would love an answer on that Dern, but seems to be hush hush.
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<Beruthiel> he's arriving around noon Brant
<Brant> So, officially, when we said that the Peter Jackson status was our grand finale, a celebration of the man, and the line, we were pretty sincere.
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<SSF-pordey2> *galads toe...
<SSF-RoboDad> Nice toes. ;)
<SSF-WS> hmmm...
<GravityEyelids> foot fetish galadriel
<WetaFan> Brant: Where are the LOTR sculpts actually produced?
<Brant> lol
<SSF-Aurea23> unoffically more comming
<Dernhelm313> gotcha. thanks Brant.
<SSF-RoboDad> Nudge nudge wink wink...
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<SSF-WS> weafan.. in China.
<SSF-WS> wetafan*
<WetaFan> That's what i thought.
<SSF-WS> ohh NZ sorry*
<Brant> WetaFan - the sculpts were actually produced by WETA, in NZ.
<SSF-WS> the sculpts in nz.. production in china.
<SSF-pordey2> sculpted in NZ, duplicated and painted in China?
<SSF-TC> sorry to be a pain Brant
<Brant> The sculpt are then molded, and castings made.
<SSF-TC> but i'm not quite following this
<Tielo1> Brant, did sales go down on LOTR stuf???
<[SSF]-lcummins> Brant, aren't six initial statues made for prototypes?
<Brant> The castings are painted (some of them), and a few sets are turned over to Sideshow.
<SSF-TC> will there be any more LOTR products?
<SSF-WS> no.
<SSF-RoboDad> How involved were the Sideshow folks in the review and approval process for the sculpts?
<Hyarion> TC, no.
<Brant> We work with factories in China to mold those castings, and copy the paint.
<deadmann> the lady of light really shines.......nice job!
<SSF-TC> ok
<Brant> It's a long process, with many many samples...
<SSF-TC> ta
<Cipher> how about some kind of "production feature" in the future??
<Brant> Some engineering, some blood and sweat.
<SSF-TC> do like that Galadriel
<Brant> Galadriel is looking good...
<Dernhelm313> What happens to the prototypes and rejects? Do you guys ever have the option to adopt them?
<Cipher> would be quite interesting
<SSF-pordey2> "production features" would be interesting!
<Beruthiel> what can we do to win a Gala? :)
<Grima> I second that Cipher
<Brant> We've talked about a production featurette... is that something that would interest you all?
<[SSF]-lcummins> How many "samples" have been made by the time a prototype was shown during a previous ComicCon?
<Grima> hell yeah Brant!
<SSF-Aurea23> i have a room aside in the middle of the house for all the sideshow/weta line
<SSF-pordey2> yes Brant
<Estel> defenitly
<WetaFan> Production Featurette would be nice!
<SSF-Aurea23> yes
<SSF_SoNS> yep
<SSF-RoboDad> YES YES YES!
<Tielo1> Only the production of Farmir
<SSF-TC> would be good Brant
<Brant> Samples...
<Brant> It varies...
<[SSF]-lcummins> YES! PRODUCTION FEATURETTE!
<Cipher> would be wonderful.
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<Estel> put that in the suggestion box at the survey
<Brant> Sometimes we make as few as four or five (rare), and often more like 10 - 15.
<Brant> Very few survive. Most are damaged, and destroyed.
<[SSF]-lcummins> or given away? <DREAM>
<Dernhelm313> lol
<Brant> :)
<Tielo1> Or stolen
<Dernhelm313> the blackmarket
<deadmann> Brant, how many chinamen/women are on the painting production line at a time? also, what are the criteria to become a weta/ss painter?
<Estel> or sold on ebay
<SSF-pordey2> prototype giveaway, that would be the best giveaway ever!
<Brant> For Sideshow, were always looking for talented artists, both sculptors and painters.
<Brant> It takes a portfolio.
<Brant> We need to see some of your history...
<SSF-Aurea23> charlie has one
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<Dernhelm313> Talk about a dream job.
<Beruthiel> oohhhhh, I want a Gala!
<Brant> You can send it in to Sideshow, and we will review it.
<WetaFan> Brant: Can we expect any more announcements from the LOTR line?
<SSF-pordey2> Gala shipping Q3?
<Dernhelm313> But them again, if I could scuplt worth a damn, I'd make my own Faramir!
<Beruthiel> someone send me one!
<SSF-TC> wots Gala???
<SSF-RoboDad> Me too! ;)
<Brant> Overseas, it takes anywhere from 40 - 200 people on any given production. For each stage of the process (mold/cast/paint/packing).
<Hyarion> Galadriel.
<SSF-pordey2> Galadriel then...
<SideshowDusty> Cipher - about production features - we have this awesome article on the steps taken during the sculpting and production of the Wolverine vs. Sabretooth : www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-b...00creation
<Beruthiel> Galadriel
<SSF-TC> right
<SSF-TC> sorry
<Beruthiel> hiya TC
<Brant> The paint is fun to watch - some of the artists at the factory are very talented, using up to 10 paint brushes at a time (in one hand - seriously)
<SSF-TC> hey Beru
<deadmann> restated Q: In china where LOTR items are painted, how many people paint at one time...hundreds??
<SSF-Aurea23> wow
<Brant> Usually not quite hundreds, but miltitudes...
<Estel> wow how many fingers do they have
<Brant> multitudes
<SSF-TC> so,each stat is indivually hand painted?
<Asura> Do they each have their own desk?
<GravityEyelids> genetically modified chinamen?
<Estel> lol
<Brant> There's sort of an assembly line... long rows of desks.
<Brant> Each person paints some portion of the figure...
<Hithlain> Reading back through everything I don't see an answer as to why the Collection was not finished. All we are lacking in humans is Faramir, Denethor and Eomer?
<SSF-pordey2> clone-painters...
<Asura> Brant: Can you explain what a Production Sample is. I asked this on the SSF board. I just want the most accurate answer.
<SSF-TC> right
<Brant> Some do the base coat, others do highlights.
<Tielo1> I'm sad. LOTR is no more, the fellowship has left the building...
<Brant> The eyes are most complicated. There may be 10 people working on eyes, each doing one color / layer.
<vircuser> Sounds like a good system Brant
<SSF-TC> do they do the same task throughout?
<SSF-RoboDad> Asura, you mean the ever elusive Artist Proof?
<deadmann> maybe they're millipeded chinese?
<Dernhelm313> Hith, they didn't feel like making any more humans, they were too hard.
<SSF-TC> lololols Dernhelm
<SSF-TC> roflmao
<Hithlain> sorry but that is just dumb
<Brant> Mostly, yes, each person does the same taks throughout one production. But someone who does eyes on one piece, may do teeth on another one...
<Asura> Robo: nope, just a production sample. It mentions AP no where
<SSF-TC> right
<SSF-TC> thanx again Brant
<SSF-WS> asura.. they are a sample that are produced before the actual production run.
<Dernhelm313> It's the truth in a nutshell.
<Brant> A production sample is not an AP... it's a sample we make during the process, trying to acheive an approved sample - good quality, etc.
<Chris> (on webcam now, Eowyn - please note, the sword is a little muffed - casualty of transport)
<Hithlain> Brant, seriously why weren't they done? You guys have left us with an incomplete collection
<SSF-TC> Dernhelm on cam
<Dernhelm313> Likenesses were difficult, yada yada yada Orc.
<SSF-pordey2> thing dernhelm looks good
<BillDoor> fedex should be delivering my dernhelm any minute now...
<Dernhelm313> lol
<vircuser> Has anyone seen a banner yet
<Chris> (wonders if there is a banner special going on)
<Grima> ah Eowyn,on her way to me know :)
<Grima> now sorry
<WetaFan> Brant: Do you collect any other stuff besides Sideshow Collectibles???
<Brant> No matter the answer I give, it won't satisfy the craving. You must trust that we truly and sincerely wish we'd been able to.
<Dernhelm313> Hith, it's all being taken very lightly here,
<Brant> Oh...
<Beruthiel> we know that Brant
<Brant> I collect a TON.
<Brant> Bad, bad habits.
<Brant> It started with STar Wars...
<Brant> action figures...
<SSF-pordey2> hasbro?
<SSF-WS> found a banner
<Brant> then Batman... animated...
<SSF-WS> second chance sauron mace : (
<Brant> Oh yes, Hasbro.
<Beruthiel> where?
<Dernhelm313> We know that, Brant, I think SS would have kept going until we the fans were satisfied.
<SSF-WS> lol... oh well.
<SSF-TC> ho ho ws
<Tielo1> Brant (again) did the LoTR stuff stopped selling? If not this is a very bad business dessision
<deadmann> got my eowyn yesterday and see looks much better "in person". she doen't really pair up with the ML like i would have liked. both are facing right to left, so to speak.
<Hyarion> Tielo1: I think they have a bit more of a grip around the business and to what is the best decision.
<Asura> How did the LOTR items stop selling? Near every thing is sold
<Brant> Glad to hear the Eowyn looks good...
<Hithlain> Dernhelm, so we aren't being taken seriously about finishing the line?
<Dernhelm313> nope
<Estel> yup found the sauron mace too
<Tielo1> Hyarion, i'm not asking you
<Dernhelm313> It's up to us to find an independent artist and finish it ourselves, as SS is DONE.
<SSF-ramblinj> Why doesn't someone at the convention track down Richard Taylor and give him an ear-full about no Faramir??? :) ~
<Beruthiel> aha!
<Brant> Hith - you are being taken seriously... but it's not going to change.
<Brant> Dern -that is a great solution.
<deadmann> i found a sauron's mace second offer!
<Hyarion> Tielo1: I never said you were, but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand the answer.
<Pauluz> Brant do you get a free statue from SS of everything you like, or do you have to pay for it?
<Asura> Heh, you could always make rehashes out of the LOTR items that don't sell. Bloody Orc Overseer Bust exclusive
<SSF-TC> already got Saurons Mace
<Hithlain> Then someone go find him. please
<Brant> There are some VERY talented sculptors in the group. I've seen some of the sculpts.
<Dernhelm313> At this point Brant its the only solution.
<Pauluz> jdd
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<Brant> Oh, SSF, have no doubt. I think that is Josh's main reason for coming?
<Beruthiel> neat banner there Chris
<maber> Hi all!
<Brant> Pauluz, unfortunately, it's a pay to play operation here too..
<Pauluz> lol too bad
<SSF-Aurea23> i have someone who said that thye will sculpt me a fountain guard of the citadel
<[SSF]-lcummins> WS, details, what are we looking for?
<SSF-Aurea23> statue
<WetaFan> cool banner!
<FrankIII> where ???
<Grima> found it too,too bad I already have it :s
<SSF-WS> A square banner that floats across the screen...
<SSF-ramblinj> Cool Aurea. I always wanted that satue too.
<Hithlain> Sure there are many things we could want but lets finish out the humans. Faramir, Denethor and Eomer
* SSF-praXITas is going to the wifes ultrasound for the new kid.... no giving away watcher statues while im gone =)
<SSF-WS> orange background...
<Dernhelm313> good luck praXIT!
<Brant> Congrats, prax!
<Dernhelm313> No extra appendages!
<Grima> Fountain Court Guard would be killer
<SSF-praXITas> thx
<[SSF]-lcummins> Chris, do we need to turn off popup blockers? That would be bad!!!
<SSF-TC> i wanted Fountain guard more than Faramir
<SSF-WS> yeahhh lonnie
<Beruthiel> no LC, they work with a pop up blocer
<k00s> Brant: Will there be any new statues/busts announced today? Or have all the new stuff been announced yesterday?
<WetaFan> I also wanted Fountain Guard
<Grima> to be honest,me too TC
<SSF-WS> turn pop ups off.!
<SSF-ramblinj> There are some forums where a lot of TALENTED sculptors hang out. Maybe we can all pitch in and crank out some Faramirs! :)
<SSF-WS> will they?
<SSF-Aurea23> yeah i am now going to follow that one up
<SSF-pordey2> wanted Faramir, eomer, High Elven, fountain guard and denethor...
<Brant> All the new announcements are up!
<Estel> what is this, you can win this over at EA: Sideshow Weta Collectible
<Estel> Balrog 1 year Founders Club subscription
<SSF-Aurea23> i have that balrog
<SSF-Aurea23> wooohooo
<SSF-Aurea23> paid 1500 though
<WetaFan> Brant: What new license would you like to see Sideshow have in the future?
<Beruthiel> Hobbit!
<SSF-ramblinj> LOTR... :) Sorry.
<SSF-TC> id the banner on homepage??
<Brant> The good news, it won't be so long before the next new product announcements (non-LOTR)
<SSF-pordey2> Hobbit!
<Hithlain> nothing but LOTR/Hobbit from me.
<SSF-RoboDad> Arrrggghhh!!! Still can't find any banners!
<Pauluz> Bran, I don't know ifthisbeen answered already but, for how long can SS work on the Marvel license?
<Brant> WetaFan, I'd rather have you answer that question!
<Brant> I'd still love to see Indiana Jones... done right...
<SSF-Swoops> SAME HERE
<Dernhelm313> If all the serious collectors were to locate a worthy sculptor and pitch in for the sculpt and cast, we could finish this on out own. Does everyone understand that?
<Beruthiel> look on the comiccon page RoboDad
<BillDoor> any hope of Firefly?
<SSF-Aurea23> for me there is and will only be one line LOTR
<vircuser> Brant...do you mean a new license
<SSF-Aurea23> sorry
<BillDoor> I'd love to see 12" figures as well as a ship model/statue/thing
<Brant> Firefly has been a popular suggestion, recently.
<SSF-TC> i saw the banner lololols
<SSF-Aurea23> although i am getting star wars premium format
<Beruthiel> what is Firefly anyway
<Brant> You have the power of the questionnaire on the Sideshow page...
<SSF-Aurea23> i filled the questionaire out
<Hithlain> what questionnaire
<[SSF]-lcummins> Finally! I did have to turn off popups to see it!
<SSF-Aurea23> but you wont like the request ;) LOTR
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<WetaFan> Brant: Is it possible for other companies to make LOTR sculpts...I hope not.
<BillDoor> Beru: the series that hte upcoming movie Serenity is based on.
<SSF-pordey2> firefly is a sci-fi series by josh wedon?
<Dernhelm313> *shakes head*
<k00s> Brant: any chance there will be a 1:3/1:4 alien statue in the near future?
<Tielo1> So if sales is poor on Lotr stuf why are the edition sizes up? I don't understand...
<FrankIII> 1:1 Alien Queen :D
<k00s> FrankIII: that would rock, but not be affordable ;)
<FrankIII> :)
<SSF-ramblinj> Dernhelm... I'll do some digging on a sculptor. I'll probably make a post on the SSF forum later if no one else does first.
<Dernhelm313> I don't think sales are down that much.
<Hithlain> where is the questionnaire?
<Dernhelm313> Cool beans.
<Grima> nice shield
<SSF-pordey2> do it Ramblinj
<Dernhelm313> I'm serious as a heart attack here. I'm not going to sell off my collection or have holes on shelves because it was to hard to sculpt a human,
<Dernhelm313> thats crazy
<Dernhelm313> There is more than one way to skin a cat.
<Dernhelm313> I just wish SS could have been a part of it until the end.
<SSF-ramblinj> Will do. I would pay a lot of money for a Faramir and Denethor, so surely someone can make us one :)
<Tielo1> but we don't get a staight anwer
<Hithlain> well count me in on what ever we can do to get those statues
<SSF-Swoops> Brant, what LOTR statue is your favorite?
<Dernhelm313> I love SS. I really really do.
<Dernhelm313> Because I honesly feel like they love us back.
<MutantEnemy> anyone know how i turn my pop up blocker off?
<SSF-ramblinj> Sideshow is far and away the best company I have every purchased from. Far and away.
<deadmann> SS new License suggestion: Mirror Mind movie...cool freaky looking characters....Brant, are you aware of MirrorMind?
<SSF-WS> what is it, a Google pop up blocker?
<SSF-pordey2> I feel like SS is a big loving company - really cares about their customers...
<Brant> Favorite... LOTR... prolly Sam and Bill
<SSF-RoboDad> Tielo, you've gotten as straight an answer as it is possible for them to give.
<SideshowDusty> for those who wanted the questionnaire - www.sideshowtoy.com/php/0...survey.php
<SSF-WS> just click on it.. and "allow pop ups"
<Brant> MirrorMask, you mean?
<deadmann> whoops....MirrorMask!!!
<SSF-Aurea23> yeah same and bill is awesome
<MutantEnemy> microsoft
<SideshowDusty> hi pordey!
<SideshowDusty> :)
<SSF-Aurea23> glad i have that
<Brant> Yah, it looks great!
<SSF-ramblinj> Tough call on a custom Faramir, though. I would think someone else would pick the license one day and make one.
<SSF-WS> ohh.. errr.. not sure
<Dernhelm313> Did I just see MirrorMask? The Gaiman work?
<SSF-TC> i missed all the early stuff
<Brant> We have some friends involved with the movie - REALLY good people.
<SSF-TC> didn't know abt SS website
<WetaFan> Brant: Why does everything seem to ship at once recently? In the LOTR line?
<SSF-Aurea23> Brant how many 1/4 star wars are enviosed
<deadmann> MirrorMask is joint colaboration with jim henson & Neil Gaiman.
<SSF-WS> envisaged*
<SSF-Aurea23> excuse spelling
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<SSF-WS> lol
<Dernhelm313> *dies where she stands*
<SSF-Aurea23> its 4:30 am
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<maber> TURKEYPOLY!!!!
<Brant> Aurea - the rumor of 25 is just a rumor...
<SSF-WS> lol.. ur forgiven!
<Brant> It'll be more... :p
<maber> XD
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<SSF-ramblinj> Yes! lol
<Dernhelm313> Don't mention Gaiman and SS in the same breath...I get lightheaded at the possibilities
<SSF-WS> oh nooo.. i was hoping it was just 25. !
<SSF-Aurea23> oh oh ..... heres wife screaming
<SideshowDusty> JOSH IS HERE!!!
<SSF-ramblinj> Your 1/4 SW is rocking!
<SSF-WS> lol... waheyy
<SSF-ramblinj> Hey Josh!
<SSF-TC> world ends
<SSF-WS> let him say hello!
<Beruthiel> get him on the product cam!
<SSF-RoboDad> Put him on camera!
<SSF-TC> Josh arrives
<SSF-WS> lol beru
<SSF-TC> lolols
<GravityEyelids> 1/4 Josh statue?
<Beruthiel> is wetanut with him?
<[SSF]-lcummins> PUT HIM ON CAM!
<SSF-WS> is wetanut there?
<SSF-RoboDad> JOSH!
<Brant> Josh says hey!
<Brant> He's waving!
<Dernhelm313> CAM CAM CAM
<SSF-TC> hey Josh
<Beruthiel> hi Josh!
<[SSF]-lcummins> Hi Josh!
<Grima> hi Josh
<SSF-WS> hello Josh!
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<Beruthiel> there he is!
<SSF-Aurea23> hi josh
<SSF-ramblinj> Hi Josh
<SSF_SoNS> Hi Josh
<SSF-RoboDad> He's on cam 2
<Brant> he sends love...
<Beruthiel> that is him, right?
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<SideshowDusty> that's josh waving
<SSF-WS> is that him?
<Dernhelm313> yay!!!!
* SSF-TC bows to Josh
<SSF-RoboDad> Where's my Haradrim, Josh!
<GravityEyelids> tell him to give us the finger
<SSF-WS> got poly t shirt
<Estel> the joshmaster
<GravityEyelids> that'd be metal
<vircuser> is that JLSMU
<Beruthiel> lol
<SSF-TC> nice t shitrt
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<Dernhelm313> He's a celebrity!!
<Beruthiel> nice shirt there Josh
<deadmann> the 3 inch figures from MirrorMask ala, ahum (dark horse), are awesome.
<SSF-TC> i got one of dem
<SSF-pordey2> josh?
<maber> yes, good shirt!
<deadmann> hi lil' josh!!!
<SSF-Aurea23> josh is our spy
* Beruthiel waves to Josh. Where's the nut!
<[SSF]-lcummins> Check with Adam (DSC), I think he can get you the shirt if you want it
<SSF-WS> josh becomes an overnight celebrity.
<SSF-pordey2> wave, wave....
<SSF-TC> i got shirt on ebay
<SSF-pordey2> good picture...
<Dernhelm313> Deadman, there is MirrorMask stuff available? Where? Who makes it?
* SSF-RoboDad start a wave for Josh
<SSF-ramblinj> Hey Josh! Go comission a Weta sculptor to make a Faramir for us on the side! :)
<SSF-WS> Josh has put on weight¬
* SSF-TC waves ta josh
<Grima> now,how about a little LOTR giveaway? ;) ;)
<SSF-Aurea23> yeah agreed
<deadmann> josh for President!! out with the bush!!
<Brant> Sorry guys, seriosly distracted (and in awe) of Josh.
<SSF-WS> lol
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<SSF-Swoops> in awe..lol
<Beruthiel> lol
<Beruthiel> in awe? wow
<SSF-RoboDad> brant is in awe of JOSH?? :D
<SSF-WS> arent we all.
<[SSF]-lcummins> Greatest Sideshow/Weta Fan alive!
<GravityEyelids> lolololl
<SSF-TC> eowyn looks nicer kokoks
<GravityEyelids> ^^^
<Beruthiel> can we see your fingers Josh. I wanna see if they are nubs
<SSF-pordey2> eowyn looks nicer than Josh?
<SSF-TC> ls even
<SideshowDusty> Josh for President! lol
<Dernhelm313> josh should be on the ss payroll
<SSF-WS> lol beru
<Brant> Fingeres still whole and unbloody
<[SSF]-lcummins> lol
<SSF-WS> he probably secretly is dernhelm...
<Beruthiel> lol
<[SSF]-lcummins> rotflmao
<SSF-pordey2> hehe
<SSF-RoboDad> lol!
<deadmann> teach us all something, josh!!
<SSF-WS> lolol
<SSF-TC> he shows his fingers
<Dernhelm313> lol i wouldnt doubt it
<SSF-WS> is anyone else saving these???
<SSF-Aurea23> i saved some
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<SSF-WS> i will post them up later..
<SSF-Swoops> do the robot, josh!
<SSF-WS> lolol
<Beruthiel> I'm logging
<SSF-RoboDad> they're stumps, but HE HAS NO BLOOD!
<SSF-TC> lolols Robo
<Dernhelm313> lol
<SSF-Aurea23> on to the net goes those pics
<Estel> cyberdyne!
<[SSF]-lcummins> His post count must be taking a serious hit this weekend!
<SSF-RoboDad> Ex-cellent!
<maber> found a banner! it's cool!
<SSF-Swoops> hurry..lets all catch up while we can ;)
<SSF-TC> we're all gonna overtake ya J
<Beruthiel> what's it for maber?
<Dernhelm313> he must be down like 600-800 post now
<SSF-WS> maber.. for saurons mace?
<Grima> where Maber?
<SSF-WS> lol dern
<Brant> Swoops - get on it!
<Brant> That's a great idea...
<SSF-pordey2> gone?
<maber> Sauron's Mace, just 5$ off
<Beruthiel> as josh where wetanut is
<SSF-TC> he's gone
<SSF-TC> needs ta post
<Brant> WetaNut is here too!
<SSF-WS> gone
<SSF-TC> roflmao
<Brant> She's waving!
<SSF-RoboDad> I think he commandeered Brants keyboard!
<GravityEyelids> lol
<SSF-TC> nuttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
<SSF-WS> hiya Wetanut!
<Beruthiel> she's too short! Can't see her!
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<SSF-WS> shes shy.. so she aint coming on.
<[SSF]-lcummins> Wetanut!
<SideshowDusty> she should be on the cam soon - we'll see if it workedd
<SSF-WS> ohhhh she isnt shy!
* SSF_SoNS waves at Wetanut
<SSF-TC> lolols Beru
<SSF-RoboDad> Jump, WetaNut!
<Beruthiel> There's the nut!
<SSF-TC> Yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Nuttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
<SSF-Azog> hey weta
<SSF-TC> i c ya
<Beruthiel> hi wetanut!
<SSF-Swoops> is the green-haired lady your photographer???
<Estel> wetanut!
<SideshowDusty> oh nice helmut on the product cam!
<SideshowDusty> there's wetanut in the pink shirt!
<maber> what's today Word of the Day?
<SSF-TC> it's Derns Helm
<SSF-WS> Turkeypoly!
<Beruthiel> who cares about the product cam! We're watching the freas cam!
<[SSF]-lcummins> Look! The Dern Helm keeps falling off!
<Beruthiel> *freaks
<maber> XD
<SSF-RoboDad> CAPTAINBILBOSPOCK ;)
<Dernhelm313> Where is DarkSyren/MoA/Michelle??
<deadmann> put her helm on!
<SSF-WS> get chuck... dave and jeremy on cam too!
<maber> lol
<Dernhelm313> Did she get banned there too
<SSF-WS> lol dern...
<SSF-TC> shurrup Dernhelm
<SSF-Aurea23> lol
<Beruthiel> lol
<SideshowDusty> I was just making a comment because Amy is working magic with the cam
<SSF-WS> lolol
<SideshowDusty> :)
<SSF-Azog> I am did not make it Shaf
<SSF-WS> ohhhh
<SSF-Azog> :(
<SSF-WS> hellooo!!!
<Beruthiel> Amy is doing a great job. :)
<SSF-WS> sorry to hear that man.
<SideshowDusty> Azog is not here?
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<SSF-WS> work committments ?
<SideshowDusty> :(
<SSF-B-Electronic> helloo folks
<SSF-Aurea23> hey bud
<SSF-WS> or couldnt find a hotel room ?
<Beruthiel> hiya B
<SSF-TC> hi B
<Grima> Hi B!
<Estel> hi
<SSF-WS> whos hand is that ?
<SSF-Azog> waited to long, plane tickets prices a biut to steep
<SSF_SoNS> Hello B
<Dernhelm313> hi!
<SSF-RoboDad> Hi B
<[SSF]-lcummins> Ya just missed Josh and Wetanut B
<SSF-WS> ohhh.. that sucks.
<SSF-Azog> oh well
<SSF-TC> brb
<SSF-RoboDad> But I'm sure the pics will be on SSF by the end of the hour
<SSF-Azog> I am having some fun here
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<SSF-B-Electronic> well when I was in here this afternoon, it was actually completely empty
<SideshowDusty> I think that was Wetanuts
<SSF-WS> its all good then.
<SideshowDusty> hand
<Dernhelm313> hey!! Weve been distracted from the real issue at hand here!
<Brant> It was...
<SSF-B-Electronic> rather busy now lol
<Brant> Hah!
<SSF-WS> lol...
<Brant> We've been discovered!
<Beruthiel> lol
<Dernhelm313> lol
<Brant> Hey B-electronics!
<SSF-Aurea23> Brant - on the 1/4 line how often will one be released ?
<SideshowDusty> Josh decided he wanted to volunteer so he's in our booth :p
<Brant> I LOVE your faux-banners!
<WetaFan> Brant: DO you guys make those black display cases?
<Dernhelm313> I'm on to your little game, Brant!
<SSF-WS> lol
<SideshowDusty> I'll take a picture
<SSF-Aurea23> i mean 1/4 star wars
<Brant> Aurea- every two or three months...
<Beruthiel> he can't keep away from a keyboard for long
<SSF-ramblinj> It's Pippin!
<Brant> 12" inch - a little more often...
<SSF-WS> are you guys wearing your Sideshow Caps?
<SSF-Aurea23> that might ease my wifes pain
<[SSF]-lcummins> Brant, you should check out FrankenFan's banners! He could work for you guys!
<SSF-Aurea23> thanxs
<SSF-Swoops> how long do you have the SW 1/4 license?
<SSF-WS> its chris!
<SSF-WS> is it?
<Aaron> What do I have to do to see the banners???
<SSF-B-Electronic> arent those discount banners up today?
<SSF-WS> yeah they are.
<Beruthiel> yes, they are B
<MutantEnemy> when will the SW poll be up to vote on which figure we all want first for the 12" line?
<Brant> Franken's banners are very cool, we talked about it yesterday
<SSF-B-Electronic> any tips where I can find em?
<SSF-ramblinj> Brant... why Gondor Pippin over Fellowship? Not complaining just curious.
<[SSF]-lcummins> Cool!
<SSF-TC> back
<Brant> Gondor Pip vs Fellowship?
<Brant> It was back and forth.
<SSF-ramblinj> Yup
<WetaFan> Brant: Will you start selling Sideshow T-Shirts?
<[SSF]-lcummins> Tennis match?
<Dernhelm313> good question RamblinJ
<SSF_SoNS> fellowship Pip with red dragon fireworks
<SSF-B-Electronic> is it because Merry didnt sell well?
<MutantEnemy> when will the SW poll be up to vote on which figure we all want first for the 12" line?
<Brant> Sorry, distracted.
<[SSF]-lcummins> Yeah! How about a Sideshow product line! T-Shirts, Caps, Mugs, etc.
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<Brant> I have a good answer on Pippin
<Dernhelm313> Look at Merry now!
<Brant> In a big talk with Richard, we were talking about Pippin's *big* role in ROTK.
<Brant> He goes through such an evolution, and really shines in ROTK.
<Chris> (we are bringing out environments and PJ for webcam in the next few minutes)
<Beruthiel> I love this Pippin statue and can't wait for it to come
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<SSF-B-Electronic> Peter Jackson??
<SSF-WS> corsair
<SSF-ramblinj> Shame we never saw the Fellowship version. I'm all about matching sets... being a completist and all.
<SSF-B-Electronic> oh wait....lol
<Brant> Richard and crew wanted to capture Pippin from his most significant moments, in defense of Minas Tirith...
<SSF-B-Electronic> damnit, and here I thought I was gonna meet someone famous!
<SSF_SoNS> fellowship Pip would have looked great with the other hobbits
<tanis> I need a little help here
<SSF-ramblinj> But I guess I'm happy with a fellowship bust. I personally really like it.
<Brant> Mutant - the poll will be up later this month, or early Aug.
<Beruthiel> hiya wetanut!
<SSF-ramblinj> Thanks for the answer Brant...
<Grima> I personnally really like Gondor Pip,but then I'm not a Fellowship completist
<SSF-TC> she's back
<SSF-Aurea23> brant will we see starwars ships/ enviros
<MutantEnemy> cool,thnx
<SSF-ramblinj> .... always wondered if it was a personal choice or marketing choice driven by the release of ROTK.
<tanis> they say I have found a comic con special what does that means? please?
<SSF-WS> wn back on cam
<Beruthiel> click on it ans see
<SSF-TC> click on it tanis
<Hyarion> tanis: its just a banner, you get a discount on the mace
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<tanis> nothing it keeps scoling from left to right
<SSF-WS> lol..
<SSF-WS> you have to CLICK on it.
<SSF-TC> click on banner
<SSF-WS> or just open a different page and it will go away.
<Grima> gotta love that detail on Pip
<Brant> Aurea - no plans at teh moment...
<[SSF]-lcummins> Brant, how often can we expect to see a new 1/4 scale Universal monster?
<SSF-Aurea23> kool thanks
<tanis> OK thanks it worked finaly
<Dernhelm313> dont panic, it won't hurt ya
<MutantEnemy> when is the 1/4 wolfman gonna ship?
<tanis> it's the sauron mace
<Beruthiel> when is Pip shipping?
<Brant> lc - it may be a little slow on new announcements, but only because we're cooking up some pretty phenomenal pieces
<Hyarion> tanis: yep...
<Brant> BIG
<Brant> detailed...
<Hyarion> and not LotR :p
<Brant> Wolfman...
<[SSF]-lcummins> Good to HEAR! CREATURE!
<Estel> awesome news!
<Brant> Is about 35 - 45 days away.
<Dernhelm313> Brant, how are the Rohirrim bust selling today?
<SSF-B-Electronic> Brant, will all LOTR items ship before the ending of the year?
<MutantEnemy> cool
<Beruthiel> thanks Brant
<SSF-Aurea23> b elec
<Hyarion> SSF-B-Electronic: no, march of 2006
<Brant> Rohirrim busts, all sold out, right>?
<SSF-Aurea23> all shipped by march 06
<SSF-B-Electronic> aha, thanx!
<SSF-Aurea23> approx
<Brant> No, B, not all by years end.
<Beruthiel> good, we have time
<[SSF]-lcummins> 35-45 days! You guys are killing me! between LOTR, SW, MARVEL and the MONSTERS, I'm broke!
<MutantEnemy> is the buffy line really ending too? Please reconsider this
<Brant> I expect Legolas/Gimli in early '06, and Aragorn a litle after.
<Dernhelm313> i mean the ones you have there
<WetaFan> Brant: Sauron this year?
<SSF-Swoops> so aragorn the last piece to ship then?
<BillDoor> is Sauron still due by the end of the year?
<Brant> Mutant - where are the rumors of Buffy ending coming from?
<Grima> good to hear that about the Riders Beant
<SSF-WS> it has to be
<Grima> *Brant
<Brant> There's a pretty big Whedon related announcement in hte future...
<SSF-Aurea23> hey brant you have a spare witch king crown for me to complete my helm collection
<Brant> Sauron is moving along nicely.
<MutantEnemy> from chat yesterday aparently, i wasnt in here though
<SSF-RoboDad> Serenity?
<SSF-WS> brant.. it was a comment attributed to urself i think about future of buffy being "cloudy"
<SSF-WS> i might have read the thread wrong.
<Brant> True.... but not ending...
<Hyarion> I was on vacation when my waitlist for sauron came up so i had to resignup for the waitlist, i doubt i'll get it now :(
<SSF-Swoops> do you know if Sauron is shipping in Sept?
<SSF-WS> right people just drawing assumptions.
<MutantEnemy> well uncloud it, the fans are still behind buffy!
<Brant> Hyarion - keep on the list, you've got a decent shot.
<SSF-B-Electronic> Hyarion, you'll prob be able to pick one up on ebay with such a high LE
<MutantEnemy> keep new figures coming not rehashes and the line will be supported
<SSF-RoboDad> Holy hairy hobbit toes!
<Lynx> I'd like a 1/4 scale Buffy
<SSF-WS> hyarion.. dont worry about... you'll find it on ebay.
<Hyarion> heh ya, that is one upside to larger editions
<tanis> when does the 1/4 scale terminator will ship? does anyone know?
<SSF-ramblinj> Brant, any comments on why the Rider/Steed line never got a Rohirim piece?
<Dernhelm313> Oh yeah. For the price of a Dodge Neon you'll find it on Ebay
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<SSF-Swoops> do you know if there is a 1/4 T2 AHNULD in the future, brant? :)
<[SSF]-lcummins> Brant, any other historical 1/4's planned to go along with Napoleon?
<SSF-WS> nahh... once it starts shipping.. the prices will hit retail (again)
<Grima> good question ramblinj
<Pauluz> Brant how long can you work on the Marvel License?
<FrankenFan> Hi, guys!
<SSF-WS> hello FrankenFan
<Beruthiel> Shouldn't there be a lotr banner on the lotr page?
<Grima> hi FrankenFan!
<MutantEnemy> Any hope of seeing a 12" FARSCAPE line?
<Estel> hi
<SSF-WS> new line announcment today ??!!
<Dernhelm313> I wouldn't trust just anyone to ship Sauron.
<Beruthiel> ooohhhh, I see Haradrim on the webcam!
<Dernhelm313> Esp. not from Ebay.
<Grima> Easterlings on Cam 2!
<SSF-WS> i guess dern.
<SSF-WS> looks delicate
<Beruthiel> they look great
<Asura> Easterlings!!
<SSF-WS> The Legend Bust... where does that fit into.. with your current lines?
<Asura> Do you guys have a RWOS on hand?
<SSF-WS> it was just under Prop Replicas.
<Estel> Easterlings!
<Beruthiel> if they do Asura, it's mine!
<[SSF]-lcummins> Hi FrankenFan
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<Asura> Sure take it. >: (
<SSF-WS> i have been on waitlist for RWOs for a while.
<Beruthiel> my GWOS is lonely and need a RWOS
<Asura> Heh, I just want a comparison shot with Aragorn
<SSF-ramblinj> Is Brant still around?
<Dernhelm313> Good Idea
<FrankenFan> If this is general chatter, any QScale Vintage Monster announcements?
<SideshowDusty> how's pippin lookin?
<Dernhelm313> I think Josh beat him down and took over the puter.
<SSF-WS> probably josh distractin him.
<Beruthiel> we're taling LOTR right now here
<Brant> sorry, BRB
<SSF-Aurea23> pips great
<FrankenFan> Gotcha!
<Estel> he looks detailed
<Grima> lookin good dusty
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<SSF_SoNS> he looks great nice details
<[SSF]-lcummins> FrankenFan, Brant said a BIG announcement in the future
<[SSF]-lcummins> Detailed!
<SideshowDusty> very
<Asura> ACTUALLY, can we get a comparison shot of Ara/Bre and Gimli/Lego?
<FrankenFan> The future? That's where we're going to be spending the rest of our lives!
<Beruthiel> is the guy in the blue shirt anyone we should know?
<Dernhelm313> Can we get a Mumak and anything?
<Asura> I guess comparison shots are out of the question. lol
<SSF-WS> is the guy on the phone calling someone in this room? :p
<Pauluz> how far into the future?
<Dernhelm313> lol
<SSF-WS> I AM ON THE CAM!! CAN YOU SEE ME???
<SSF-WS> lol
<[SSF]-lcummins> He said it is a little slow because they are cooking up some phenomal pieces!
<FrankenFan> Yum!
<[SSF]-lcummins> We just have to be patient...
<SSF-B-Electronic> damnit I forgot about the cam!
<SSF-B-Electronic> lol gotta turn it on
<Beruthiel> B! You missed Josh and wetanut!
<SideshowDusty> um - we can do a comparison shot maybe at the end of the day of the horse and riders
<SideshowDusty> once the crowds have thinned
<Dernhelm313> and Mumak
<SideshowDusty> we'll have requests at that point
<WetaFan> PJ
<[SSF]-lcummins> He did like your faux-banners however!
<FrankenFan> I'd love to see some of the creative design the Marvel line is enjoying channeled into the classic Unis!
<SSF-B-Electronic> Btw, is that a dead Haradrim on the base of the Mumak piece?
<SSF-B-Electronic> Brant? Dusty? Chris?
<Pauluz> yeah me too Frankenfan
<FrankenFan> My banners? Lcummins?
<[SSF]-lcummins> Yes, I would like to see what The Gore Group could do on one!
<Beruthiel> isn't chicky at the con? We haven't had her online with us at all
<[SSF]-lcummins> Yes, your banners FF!
<FrankenFan> Hunchback on the wheel!
<FrankenFan> I'm flattered!
<WetaFan> oh weathertop
<[SSF]-lcummins> That would be sweet!
<Grima> Weathertop!
<Estel> looks nice
<SSF-RoboDad> Weathertop
<FrankenFan> The Monster chained in the interrogation chair!
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<WetaFan> This is probably my favorite enviro.
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<SSF-Aurea23> i am soooo glad yuou did this enviro
<[SSF]-lcummins> After Doom, that is now possible!
<Dernhelm313> Down FrankenFan, Down!
<SSF-ramblinj> Someone hit Brant with a Rohan/steed question when he gets back... I gotta get back to the office. Been skipping work for a couple hours :)
<Beruthiel> I'm looing forward to BF and AH for environments
<SSF-Aurea23> i was worried it might not have made production
<FrankenFan> Sorry, abnormal brain = hyperactivity!
<Dernhelm313> You know, I'm not really into the enviros
<Dernhelm313> lol, its quite undestandable
<SSF-TC> i'd like ta see Bucklebury
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<Beruthiel> neither am I, but I do like the last 2 they are doing
<SSF-RoboDad> I wasn't either, until I got one. And then...
<SideshowDusty> Hey, Brant has been swept away for a press interview
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<SSF-ramblinj> Later guys and gals... been fun.
 
Brant should have applied for the position of White House Press Secretary :lol
 
Peter, there's another chat scheduled on Sunday. You should attend that one and hit Brant up with some more questions.

I certainly feel the frustration about the lack of answers, perhaps we'll learn more after the license actually expires. A lot of these questions probably can't be answered due to legal reasons until that time.

And by the way... I was really serious about hiring a sculptor to make a Faramir piece :) I'm THAT desperate! ... or hopeless....
 
SO DAM TRUE!!!

Sad to see no real answers

Typical crap form SS!!! Why in the HELL is it SO dam hard for SS to say , yes, no or even hey I dont know!!!! I read through most of the chat and was bored.

HEY SIDESHOW just give us answers already!!! GEZZZZ:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
 
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I'm with you on hiring a sculptor! I'd get them to do Faramir and Mouth Of Sauron!

Tom Bombadil.....?
 
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Well, that was an interesting read. Basically, guys it comes down to Weta saying thats it. They really want to move on at this point and they could come back at a later date. In all honesty the answers they are telling you are all they can say, because its the truth thats why things went down. After being able to talk to these folks at SS in person for hours basically they love the LOTR line as much as we do. They would not end it or leave some out if they had 110% say in everything but you have the Weta factor that said we want to move on.
 
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Thanks for the info Josh. That's kind of what most of us figured, I think.

If this is indeed the case, I'm really disappointed in Weta. Did you get a chance to talk to anyone at Weta? Do they think there is no more interest in the line. Or do they just not care... time to move on cause that's what they want to do?

I just can't imagine Kong and Narnia doing nearly as well for them as LOTR.

I wish we could have an on-line chat with Weta!
 
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NP I just stating the obvious most likely :lol

I did kind of get to talk to RT and he is a really nice guy. He autoed a pamphlet of Kong for me. I think there is a chance but it appears to be 50/50 right now basically cause of whats left might not sell well.
 
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If sales concern is the only problem for Weta, we need to send them the message that we will buy! If we can push them from 50/50 to 51/49 we might get some more stuff!

Perhaps we could get a petition together and send it to Weta. The petition should include pieces that we would be interested in buying should the line continue.

We could get a thread together and vote on some pieces to include in the petition. I think some good choices to include in the petition are:

Faramir ranger statue
Denethor statue or bust
Eomer on steed statue
Sam carrying Frodo statue
Fellowship Pippin statue
Rohan Merry statue
Theoden on Snowmane statue - charging in ROTK, my favoirite scene :)
Eowyn white lady bust or statue
Prologue elf statue
Gondorian fountain guard statue
Arwen coronation statue

I'm sure there are more, but I think these have all been requested by numerous people.

I think there are few really huge sellers in that list. Weta might be able to pull off a 1-2 year license with a list that size.
 
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It seems like there is a glimmer of hope down the road. Just a guess, but I still think a resurrection in conjunction/lead up to the Hobbit is our best shot. I'd love to see Weta at the sculpting end, which is really what makes this line so special IMO. And obviously Sideshow has been an ideal partner.
 
really want to move on at this point and they could come back at a later date.

What's that I smell? Cat? Dog? No, that's bullsh*t!

What it means is that the line is ended and you have more chance of having a crap in the shape of Faramir than actually getting a statue of him.
 
It was the part about Galadriel initially having the mirror that got my attention: (edited for content, viewer discretion advised...)

<SSF-TC> i spy Galadriel
<Beruthiel> oh, I'd love to win a Galadriel
<Brant> Everything will be shipped by March-ish of 2006.
<Grima> that improved Galadriel looks really great
<SSF-Aurea23> just need the mirror
<Brant> The mirror...
<Brant> Someday, I'll 'leak' some photos of the early Galadriel sculpt, with the mirror.
<Brant> It is HUGE
<SSF-Aurea23> kool
<SSF-ramblinj> SWEET!
<SSF-RoboDad> I'd take "huge"!
<Brant> Would have double-plused the price of the statue... unfortunately

This would have been an amazing piece with the mirror. Now Imagine Saruman without the palantir pedestal...
 
Yeah? So why not do a spec.ed. for those that want one WITH the mirror?

There are more than a few people that I know that would purchase it despite the higher price.
 
I sure as hell would have paid extra for the mirror. Well, maybe I should add that to my list of custom sculpts...

It really would have been nice if they had offered it seperately.
 
I also found the part about leaving Galadriel's mirror out pretty funny. I probably would have bought one with the mirror, even if it was $250. The current sculpt is really boring, IMO, and there's no way I would buy it.
 
This would have been an amazing piece with the mirror. Now Imagine Saruman without the palantir pedestal...
Of course it would have been amazing with the mirror. Has anyone ever said otherwise? That was never the issue. The issue was whether enough of them would have sold at a $300 (or probably higher) price tag with the mirror. Sideshow felt that it wouldn't have sold well enough, and they are probably right. Sure, some of the people in this forum would have bought one, but be honest. We don't represent their average customer. That's why the forum is called Sideshow Freaks.

And I really don't think the Saruman comparison is fair. To accurately portray the mirror from the movie, it would have been almost as tall as Saruman's pedestal, but more than twice as wide, possibly as much as three times as wide. The thing would have been HUGE, and it would have obscured much of the detail in Galadriel.
 
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