I cancelled my mumak...

[scriff]

I decided to cancel my Mumak tonight after talking about it with my wife - she and I felt that the pose wasn't really that, well, dynamic. Also the $300 US wasn't particularly helpful.

:( :( :(

But all is not sad - I did re-order the battle troll statue. In the end that $175 statue doesn't seem so expensive now...

Scriff

[Agent23]

Don't feel bad, I'm gonna cancel mine as well...

[gOzum]

Im there with ya mate.

Cancelled Muffin, got me KotD & Gothmog in stead.

:hat

[Agent23]

Yea, I treated myself to Elessar and Eowyn instead. Was thinking of Goth. on Warg, but decided to get those 2 pieces instead, since I am canceling the Mumak.

[Lasher33]

I can so understand you guys...

Only reason I am keeping it, is to keep the collection complete. For that, I guess I'm glad that it's all over now...

[ajaxxxxx]

I didn't order Mumak, and after SDCC don't plan to. Sadly I'm cancelling the battle troll...as much as I wanted this piece the scale of it really turned me off, he's just way too small.

[CSI123]

I'm thinking about cancelling my mumak. I might put the $300 towards the Weta Kong vs. T-Rex Statue. :dunno

[tielo1]

I don't care about the Mumak statue.
I thought they were great in the movie but in polystone they're kind of "empty".
I think the Warg is sitting in a strange way. I'm sure it's like in the movie but it looks strange to me.

I'm keeping all the other rider statues. They're great!:clap

[BSHERRIS]

Actually, I cancelled my Mumak and my Attack Troll...each for different reasons.

Although I believe that the Mumak sculpt is indeed excellent and exceedingly detailed, I really have a problem with adding more dead or dying sculpts. I already own Sideshow's excellent Santi with Bomb piece, as well the Haradrim soldier figure. That is enough fatalism for me.

As for the Attack Troll, I already own the classic Cave Troll, and once you own that piece, there really is no need for another troll. In short, the first Cave Troll set the standard for the character...the new piece is much like the second Balrog. It has been released for those who missed the first go-round.

I am still on the fence concerning the last two horse and rider pieces...Gimli/Legolas on Arod & Aragorn at the Black Gate. I don't think I will preorder these, but I might pick one up on Ebay if the price is right.

As far as I'm concerned, my final must-buy LOTR pieces will be:

King of the Dead
Pippin
Lady Galadriel
Sauron
Peter Jackson as Corsair

...sailing off into the West.

B.

[Lynxje]

Haven't ordered anything of the last 8 pieces or so (last was Galadriel) and only piece I'm thinking about is Lego/Gimli. I'm gonna put my money towards a Predator :rock

[Beruthiel1]

I ordered Muffin and I will keep that order! I think she is wonderful and after seeing the pics from SD, I'm even more convinced that this will be a wonderful piece that is a must have. As far as Aragorn at the Black Gates goes, I think this piece has gotten everything that was wrong with the earlier Aragorn pieces fixed and can't wait to add him to my household as well. The PJ statue is probably my least favorite of the last 3,but I will keep him as well. I jsut wish he was bigger!

[SamAKALiz]

Muffin definately looks better in person, as usual. I really like it, but it does nothing for my husband. He ain't the one buying it, so it will come home!


Ajaxxxxx, you may want to reconsider cancelling the attack troll. Although smaller, it's not too small, and is still incredibly detailed. A really great piece. The smashed Gondorian helm beneath it and the expression on the troll's face really adds to the details. I like him better than Muffin... http://www.geocities.com/bat3193/smiley1/xyxthumbs.gif

[B Electronic]

It's quite unbelievable how I always seem to like the least liked pieces best :dunno

I've got 3 very expensive items coming at the end of this year and therefore I am unable to order the Mumak piece. And I am racking my brain as to wether or not to order one anyway, thats how much I like the piece. I really cant understand why nobody likes it, just because its not the pose they wanted it to be in....

[Mr Fell Beast]

So did I .....................................:eek





















With Sideshow anyway as yes the $300 price tag is a tad bit too much detailing or not. Way expensive for the size, I mean compair it to the first $300 beasts, Cavey and Balrog.....:bow
Come on SS get the pricing right with the last ones instead of MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Milking us dry...............;)

[WetaWork]

I've cancelled mine as well.

Agreed, not worth the price and I'm not a big fan of the "mini muffin" to begin with. When I don't have a Faramir or Eomer statue in my collection, the Mumak just seems insignificant and unnecessary. Besides, there are just too many other items from other sideshow lines that I'm interested in. The 1/4 scales have got my attention.

[RodLonghi]

I'm with you, I like the sculpt and the creature, but 300 is too much. I will get it off Ebay when the flood begins.

[elwood49]

I've got this one on order, but I may cancel and get one during the flood. I'd really like to get one eventually, but I've got a ton of stuff coming during the 4th quarter (who doesn't? :lol )

[dstephan]

The Mumak is bigger than the Balrog and a more complex piece. I doubt those that have seen it in person would be cancelling, but to each their own...

[WetaWork]

Bigger? more complex? How? The Basket?

Mumak:
Product Size: approx. 11" H (279mm) x 14" W (356mm) x 18" D (457mm) *
Product Weight: 10.00 lbs (4.32 Kg) *

Balrog:
Product Size: 13.5 inches*
Product Weight: 25.00 lbs (10.80 Kg) *

[Nazgurl]

Muffin is staying on order for me. It's a creature, so gotta have it. :dance

[jlcmsu]

Yeah, go ahead and cancel but you all that are doing so or not liking the piece really don't have all the facts. This is awesome and really pretty dam big. I expect we will see a lot of crow being eaten come Q4.

[Viking28]

I cant fault anybody for cancelling a piece, esp if they are not 100% sure on it. $300 can be a big chunk of one's paycheck plus with so many other things sideshow is releasing that are outstanding. It becomes a choose and pick type thing.

I like this statue BUT $300 can help with something I REALLY want ie Doom and Predator that Iam 100% sure of. And I can only hope later that I will be able to pick this one up.

[WetaWork]

Yeah, yeah...We didn't attend comic con so we didn't see it in person and we don't have all the facts. :lecture Well, I have enough facts.

On the slight chance I will be eating crow, I will enjoy my serving next year while staring at my 1/4 Predator.

[Viking28]

I will enjoy my serving next year while staring at my 1/4 Predator

Your telling me!!:rock I cant wait!!! Have him with the helmet on and have the other head placed as a bust somewere! Thats the cool thing with this it comes with a display stand for the other head.

[lakeshouse]

I also canceled it after seeing the pictures from SDCC.
seems like it's slightly bigger than Shelob.
I'm keeping PJ statue, though. :dance

(edit)spell

[jlcmsu]

Yeah, yeah...We didn't attend comic con so we didn't see it in person and we don't have all the facts. Well, I have enough facts

I'm just saying I think a lot of you all giving it the axe will kick yourselves if it doesn't drop alot. I just don't believe those not liking it don't have enough facts to know just how cool and BIG it is.

On the slight chance I will be eating crow, I will enjoy my serving next year while staring at my 1/4 Predator.

I think there is more than a slight chance!!! THe 1/4th Predator is awesome!! You'll love it!! He is just way to much out of my range to get though I would love to figure a way to get him. You having a 1/4th Predator isnt a big deal though.

I also canceled it after seeing the pictures from SDCC.
seems like it's slightly bigger than Shelob.

Its much bigger than Shelob. Actually, Shelob doesn't even come close to the size of the Mumak.

[LOTR Fan]

I just love that Muffin has been officially announced as the Mumak's name! :rollin Thanks TC!!!!! :banana

[WetaWork]

You having a 1/4th Predator isnt a big deal though.

It's a big deal to me. Which is why I am putting the $300 towards it rather than spending it on muffin. There's got to be a trade off for me as I have a budget. For me, Muffin was an easy choice for the chopping block.

Now all I need is a 1/4 Major Dutch Schaeffer to go with my Predator. :rock

[FlyAndFight]

I really like the Mumak/Muffin but specifically passed on the pre-order from Sideshow in order to wait for the flood. I missed out on pre-ordering from our regular online shops at the better pricing, so flood it is for me.

I think Josh may have a point about the amount crow being eaten come this winter. This one is going to blow people away once it starts shipping. I think it's one of those pieces that has to be seen in person to really appreciate it.

The price is pretty steep, especially with the flood of items coming down the pike but I think it will be one of the more popular statues in the end.

[jlcmsu]

I know its a big deal 2 U. Thats not what I meant. It came across as its a big deal to everyone that you own it. Like I said the 1/4th scale Predator is a very awesome piece and one to own if you can swing it. For me I just wouldn't trade any LOTR item for it.

[dstephan]

I'm not getting the Mumak either, even though it's a creature which is all I collect from LotR. I'm not fond of the dying pose.

But the Balrog is 25 lbs? Is that right? The "footprint" on Muffin is larger, but if that weight is correct I guess she doesn't have more poly.

[jlcmsu]

I think Josh may have a point about the amount crow being eaten come this winter. This one is going to blow people away once it starts shipping. I think it's one of those pieces that has to be seen in person to really appreciate it.

Thats exactly what I'm saying. You really gotta see Aragorn @ The Black Gates, Legolas/Gimli, and the Mumak specifically in person to see how cool they are. I really believe anyone just dismissing them based on early photos will kick themselves if they can't get them cheaper.

[jlcmsu]

I'm not getting the Mumak either, even though it's a creature which is all I collect from LotR. I'm not fond of the dying pose.

Yeah, the dying pose is the turnoff I really understand with people. Its not something you expect or most would like. Something about it grabs me and especially after getting my Harad from Adam last week something is kind of cool about the dying pose. Seeing the pose on the Mumak in person gives a better understanding of it at least for me and my little pea brain.

[WetaWork]

I know its a big deal 2 U. Thats not what I meant. It came across as its a big deal to everyone that you own it.

Hey Josh,

I can't help that you think that way. I don't buy statues to impress people. I buy what I enjoy. Sorry dude, that's your own warped way of thinking.

My point was that I'd rather put the $300 towards my 1/4 predator than towards the Mumak. I'm cancelling other items as well to pay for the 1/4 predator.

[jlcmsu]

I can't help that you think that way. I don't buy statues to impress people. I buy what I enjoy. Sorry dude, that's your own warped way of thinking.

Its not how I think its how it came across. Same here I buy what I enjoy and am passtionate about not just to collect. Again, it wasn't a warped way of thinking it was how your post came across or how you really feel. ;)

Anyways on to better topics

[Fubeca]

Seriously, you guys have no concept of what it looks like until you see it in person. I didn't even tell my wife that I had it on order already and when she saw it she said, "You're getting that right?" She was impressed and so was I! Not sure if she knows that it is $300 though! :rollin

[jlcmsu]

She was impressed and so was I! Not sure if she knows that it is $300 though!

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Scott after meeting your wife I think she will understand, but you have a nice soft couch just incase right? :rollin

[TheWitchKing]

I'm keeping my order on this one. It will go nice with the Balrog, Cave Troll, horse rider statues, and other key statues. It's not as big as Id like it to be but it is amazing in person.

[WetaWork]

Its not how I think its how it came across. Same here I buy what I enjoy and am passtionate about not just to collect. Again, it wasn't a warped way of thinking it was how your post came across or how you really feel.

You mean how it came across to you. And yet you continue to judge people's intentions based on your warped interpretation, especially on a public forum. It's wrong and you shouldn't do it.

Bodie, where's the popcorn?

[dayhiker1]

I preordered the mumakil but will likely cancel my order too esp when the ebay flood drives the price down. after reading all these notes and comments, i agreetaht it doesnt deserve the $300 price tag. maybe $200 or $225. the detail is good but the scale is smaller and just a bit bigger than the gamesworkshop one. if i do good in painting the one i have then, i might just get 2 0r 3 more and convert in various poses.

sigh... and to think the line has ended...not so much with a bang...

[jlcmsu]

You mean how it came across to you. And yet you continue to judge people's intentions based on your warped interpretation, especially on a public forum. It's wrong and you shouldn't do it.

Yeah, thats how it came across to me. What I'm supposed to use someone elses brain or thoughts to make an opinion based on what I read? How is it warped to think that based on how I took it that you where pumping yourself up? Its wrong to inpterpret things based on how I take them? Thats interesting. So I should be a mindless veggie.


the detail is good but the scale is smaller and just a bit bigger than the gamesworkshop one.

The GW piece is crap compared to this thing. Really, You all don't know whats coming with this thing.

[wrathofsauron]

People stop scrapping like cats over nuthin!!! I cancelled mine as well and might go for the Kong T Rex statue so one way or the other I'll be ok with it!!! If they made Faramir now that would be a different story.................hee hee!!!:lol

[jlcmsu]

Hey its all good on my end. I'm not the one with the problem ;) If your getting something you want more thats fine with me but keep space ready for this guy. He is gonna be one a lot will want when it comes time.

[Agent23]

I don't care what it looks like "in person". I don't like it. and I doubt seeing it in person will change my mind, nothing has so far...

Basically, I don't care for the pose, or the fact that the rigging on top is bare empty.

If it turns out I "missed out", oh well, too bad for me I guess.

This is one of the pieces I really wanted too.

Oh well, I'll save myself $300...

[Goldberry]

Am I right in thinking that most people cancel the Mumak more because of the stance than anything else? It's a shame really, because I truly believe that Weta made the Mumak only because the Freaks were screaming for one. (Unfortunately, we didn't scream louder for Faramir or we might have got him instead.)

I was never interested in a war elephant, let alone a dying one. The Mumak in the film tore another one down in the process of falling. Where is it? :ar And $300 is way too much money for just one down-sized Oliphant IMO.

[Diesel]

josh collects what he likes, but is turned off by the pose of the Mumak...

but he's playing Cpt Savahoe for this piece...?

[jlcmsu]

josh collects what he likes, but is turned off by the pose of the Mumak...

I didn't say I was turned off by the pose. I said I can understand why some are it doesn't turn me off. I actually like it even more so after getting my Harad Statue.

[Winged Shadows]

Always knew it'd be a weeny!

:elef

[Eleventy1]

And this would be why Weta are moving on??

[HighElven]

I think its too much and dont like the pose. But, according to Josh, I WILL like it in person.
Makes tons of sense, considering the pose is the same in person.
And also, you were giving it to WetaWork about 'showing off' that he is getting a 1/4 Predator, it seems to me your showing off that you went to Comic Con by saying how awesome they all are in person.
Just get over the fact not everyone loves every statue, and quit telling people they will love it, when infact, they probably wont.

[LOTR Fan]

I am beginning to think that some people only read these threads to find things to attack Josh about, lets grow up folks. If you have issues with someone personally that's fine, but attacking someone by following up on another's comments is just childish. We know that certain people have issues with others, but reading these comments in every single thread is getting old. :x

[wrathofsauron]

Hear hear!!! Isn't all of this collecting lark supposed to be fun anyway????

[Daelith2000]

Sometimes I wonder if SSW decided to just play a big cruel joke on us during their last production days. We screamed for a Pippin and end up with a Pippin in an awful cringing pose--even with an ES of 2000, it took quite awhile to sell out...poor thing.

We screamed for a Mumak and end up with one on its last legs.

On the flipside, after having seen the Aragorn and Legolas in person, I think I will be getting them. The mumak, on the other hand, was worse than I expected =/ Those pictures on Sideshow's site have better color contrast and saturation.

[Mr Fell Beast]

I am beginning to think that some people only read these threads to find things to attack Josh about, lets grow up folks. If you have issues with someone personally that's fine, but attacking someone by following up on another's comments is just childish. We know that certain people have issues with others, but reading these comments in every single thread is getting old.

Well said M..............:bow :bow

He likes it and you all don't, ugm, so move on already.....:help

[Daelith2000]

Yea, that's why I don't post often, cuz half the time I wanna post something really nasty after one of Josh's posts...

[TURINS BANE]

I'm thinking of cancelling mine aswell, the pose could have been
so much better, It's a pity this was one I was looking forward to
and hopping for the most. Now I would take the Rex vs. Kong over this
anyday, like the other guy said who wants a Mumak on it's its last legs.

[THE WARG BEAST]

Im with you one this one TB.

I think I'll cancel mine and go for the Kong Statue:p

WG :lvader

[TURINS BANE]

Yeah, it definitely looks to be the better of the two, better value for money as well. :hat

[jlcmsu]

The Kong piece is really nice but right now it may just be a tad out of reach for me. If a few things go my way that might change but till then I will just have to sit back and wait for this one. For me personally the Mumak is the better piece for my money but the Kong piece is :jaw

[leebgb]

I really like the dying pose of the state. It's not as cool as a charging Mumak would have been but I like it much better than the one on the Gollum dvd. I watched the dvd again and the statue is larger but is just standing there in a daze. Very very dull. What I like about this one is even though it's dying, at least it's not a still pose, it's actually in the middle of battle. Plus with the slits on the front legs, I personally look at it as the Mumak that Eowyn and Merry took down which adds a bit of coolness to the statue.

I think the reason the statue has that "empty" feeling is because of the missing Haradhrim. BUT I think even if we would have gotten a different pose and it was a few inches larger, it wouldn't have included any Haradrim figures so it would have that empty feeling regardless. Weta probably learned their lesson with all the complaints about the poor looking Morgul Lord that sits on the Fell Beast (great statue besides the Morgul Lord) and decided not to attempt that with small scale Haradrim. They have too much detail to sculpt in such a small scale.

I'm keeping my order and I can't wait to get it. This is one of the statues I'm looking forward to the most. I don't have the original Balrog or Cave Troll so this statue is going to be one of my big ones.

I'd like to get the Kong vs. T-Rex as well but I want to wait to see what I think of the movie first before I get it. :D

[TolkienCollector]

Having named him, I'm still keeping an open mind :p :lol :yay

TC :bonk :eye :bonk

[ju421019]

im cancelling mine too - its a freaking elephant for God's sake -- i can buy a life size one at toysrus for less.

[Gabberjawa]

I'm cancelling mine for the simple reason that I want something else more for the amount of money it costs! :rock

[Heart Of Stone]

I have to say that I agree with Josh as far as seeing the Mumak in person . In the past I have passed up many statues based on the pictues I saw of them , but then I would go to a friends house and get a look at them in person , and I usually ended up buying them shortly after . The entire Helm set is one of those instances for me . I originally had no interest in them , but then I saw Figwits and Adams collections , and now I own most of them . I did cancel the Mumak with Sideshow . I am a bit bothered by the pose , as I would have prefered a healthy , upright , charging Mammoth , but IMO this piece has character and emotion all of its own , and I do still like it . I cancelled mine strictly because of the price . It is true that I have yet to see it in person , and therefore I may not be able to judge its value , and I am expecting to be impressed , but I know for a fact I can get it for atleast $40 less by not ordering through Sideshow . I personaly understand the complaints on both sides , we just need to figure out for ourselves what works best .

:wave

[Diesel]

He likes it and you all don't, ugm, so move on already.....

right, so he can stop trying to talk people into liking it... :rolleyes

[jlcmsu]

Thats another thing we wouldn't want a bunch of Harad Soldiers looking not so hot. The WK on the ML doesn't look outsanding but its not the worst thing I've ever seen. The Harad though would have looked like that and man you all know the type of complaints we would get from that don't ya.

[Heart Of Stone]

you all know the type of complaints we would get from that don't ya.


Probably , the exact same kind of complaints .

[jlcmsu]

Actually, I think they might be worse. The Mumak is one piece a lot of people wanted so ugly little Harad on a piece that everyone wanted so bad could be Atomicly bad.

[Heart Of Stone]

True !

[aurea23]

im glad in a way you guys are cancelling.....

looks like ebay will be cheap and then i can have 2....

I reacon this is an awesome piece and was a must have for me


Would be nice to have 3 or 4 elephants all in different poses....

Michael

[jlcmsu]

Actually, this is one piece I wouldn't mind having two of myself.

[Mr Fell Beast]

right, so he can stop trying to talk people into liking it...

Ok, bite it real hard and let it go already, PLEASE...:thwak

[Diesel]

Ok, bite it real hard and let it go already, PLEASE...

nice language little boy...

[ajaxxxxx]

Wow popular thread today....I'm cancelling the battle troll because I have the original..the battle didnn't appear taller than any of the uruk's, so it just seems too out of scale for my collection - but that's me. It's definately a nice piece. As far as the muffin goes it's again a scale issue which is why I haven't gotten the watcher or fell beast. One that I don't have on order but will DEFINATELY get is Sauron...he looks awesome in person.

For those of u considering the Kong/Rex piece it's amazing but HUGE...I have no idea how to display it..but I want it :evil

If you want to see some really crazy pieces check out www.cinemaquette.com 1/3rd scale terminator, Aliens, and an Aragon that looks amazing...evidently they're also doing a Legolas and a Gandolf...I saw the Aragon and the likeness seems spot on.

[Mr Fell Beast]

nice language little boy...

:mwaha


Real mature.......:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :thwak


Once more, move on bubba, give it a rest.....:thwak

[Eleventy1]

I'll get this one. The size doesn't bother me.
I think the sculpt is stunning.

[Diesel]

:rolleyes

you sure like :thwak off alot...

[Heart Of Stone]

Due to all the fighting on both sides about Mumak , here is a poll related to the subject :


p078.ezboard.com/fsideshowfreaksfrm3.showMessage?topicID=253.topic (http://p078.ezboard.com/fsideshowfreaksfrm3.showMessage?topicID=253.topic)

[TURINS BANE]

I saw the Aragon and the likeness seems spot on.

Well, you can't have seen the one, I saw then. :x :lol :puke

[scriff]

I didn't cancel the mumak because of the sculpt - It's nice, and looks like a great piece, but if it was half the price (or even $100 cheaper) then I would probably keep it.

It's a gut feeling for me - a piece just grabs me right in the guts, and then I know I want it, and will always be happy with it. I was really expecting the mumak to give me that "gut" feeling, but it didn't - just a little disappointed with the pose. The wallet also certainly comes into play as well.

Anyway, I'm sure I will enjoy the battle troll.

:toast

Scriff

[moonlightdrive21]

Good call !

[BSHERRIS]

It's a gut feeling for me - a piece just grabs me right in the guts, and then I know I want it, and will always be happy with it.

Understand exactly how you feel.

The last time this happened to me was when I saw Sideshow's Alien Queen Bust...knocked me out from the first time I saw it. Knew I had to have it. True art; brilliant sculpt; absolutely commands every room it is in.

I think the new Marvel "VS" series dioramas are also going to be extraordinary and set a new standard for dynamic 3D art.

It seems to me that Sideshow is definitely going in the direction of more complex and dramatic statuary, and in doing so, the prices of the pieces are going to inevitably rise because of the level of detail inherent in the work.

Sad thing for me is, that none of the remaining LOTR pieces are doing this for me...I feel like I am adding them to my collection out of a sense of completeness. Maybe I need to rethink this.

B.

[TheWitchKing]

I dont blame you ajaxx, I was considering cancelling the attack troll. It's too small for the size of scale I have in my collection now, the Cave Troll as you mentioned. Kong and Rex will be mine as well, but something about the design on that Attack Troll just draws me to it. I may just make an exception in a seperate room.

[Mr Fell Beast]

you sure like off alot...

Is that the best you can do, well I guess not for a child.:rolleyes God grow up will you or go back to that other balorgloser or whatever you think you were at the time....:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

[Mr Fell Beast]

Looks like alot of people killing their orders, looks like alot of ebay action going to happen.................:dunno

[Naugladur]

Fell Beast boy....I realize you hate Diesel.....but whatever he said about your mom was true at the time.

If she's since lost 300 pounds or quit tricking you can't blame Cory for that.