Multiple character representations

[Lasher33]

Whilst the debate for Faramir / Denethor / Eomer went on, there was a lot of talk about multiple representations of the same character.
Aragorn / Elessar / AatBG
GtG / GtW / GoS
To name the most obvious ones.

It just struck me that nobody seemed to mind (or complain about) the one character that had more representations than most of the others: The Witch-king

Four statues
A bust
Two helms
A plaque

The only one surpassing that seems to be Gandalf:
Four statues
Two busts
A helm
Two plaques
A bookend set
A print

[TheWitchKing]

:sob :sob :sob

[B Electronic]

Actually, I do mind. ALOT. I can understand Gandalf getting so many representations, seeing as he's just about the most beloved character in the books, but the Witchking really doesnt deserve so many while other characters barely have anything at all or even nothing!

[jlcmsu]

Well, I think Aragorn getting multiples and Gandalf are well deserved. The WK I can understand the complaints on him simply because Faramir and Denethor didn't get anything but he was a really cool character so I don't mind or care really that he got so many.

[wetayourself]

Moregul lord

[Fubeca]

"humans don't sell well"

Glad they did more of the Wiki! Better looking and well worth it! Although a Denetor with grape juice on his face and KFC grease on his fingers would have been nice. :banana :lol

[Lasher33]

Yeah, the thing is though... that during the whole 'multiple debate' I can't recall any complaint or remark about the Witch-king.

[buzzardio1080]

HI LASHER 4 GANDALF STATUE AND 4 WITCHKING STAUES
IM STUPID BUT I LOVE MY WETA AND I CAN ONLY THINK OF 3 STATUES FOR EACH,
OH HANG ON MAYBE YOUR CALLING THE RINGWRAITH ON STEED THE WITCHKING, MAYBE ???
BUT WHATS THE 4TH GANDALF STATUE?????
:dunno

[Lasher33]

The RWoS IS the Witch-king (look at the sword...)

And the fourth Gandalf is the Bronze one.
Even though I personally do not see it as part of the series.

[buzzardio1080]

GOOD ONE LASHER
I KNEW U WOULD BE RIGHT
:bonk

[TheWitchKing]

Totally agree with you there Fubeca.

[buzzardio1080]

THE WITCHKING TRUE FORMS SWORD IS IDENTICLE TO THE RWOS SWORD, I GUESS HE IS PRETTY HUNCHED UP ON THAT HORSE (GREAT PIECE),
I JUST WASNT SURE ABOUT SIZE?
IS RWOS 1/6?

I WANTED A ROSEY STATUE
:help

[jlcmsu]

Yeah, the thing is though... that during the whole 'multiple debate' I can't recall any complaint or remark about the Witch-king.

Well, thats kind of my thoughts. I understand people saying well this character got this many while others didnt but the WK was an awesome character so complaining about him is a tad silly. I mean if your gonna complain about characters go look at stuff like the Dwarven Bust and some of the other non essential characters.

[buzzardio1080]

U CANT KNOCK THE MAIN BADDY
I AGREE
HE WAS A VERY NAUGHTY MAN
:thwak

[FlyAndFight]

Hey Buz, you gotta try hitting that "Caps Lock" key from time to time. When you type in all caps, it comes across as if YOU ARE YELLING... :wave

Not trying to be a jerk, just trying to help out. :toast

[Fubeca]

Should we do a poll and ask:

Would you rather have 4 different Wiki's or 1 Farimir?

I know what the results would be, esp is everyone is honest.

[Viking28]

You just didnt know you wanted that many character representations is all. Weta knows best.

[Maldaketh]

I don't get what's so cool about the Witch King. I get what's cool about the Ringwraiths, but the Witch King is just another wraith as far as I'm concerned. While he leads the Nine, he doesn't do or say anything that really sets him apart from the other eight.

Personally, I could've done without the Twilight Witch King statue and bust, or at least one of the two. I'd trade my Witch King bust for an Eowyn bust gladly.

And although I'm a huge Gandalf fan, and have been since I first read The Hobbit, I wouldn't have minded going without a Gandalf the White statue on foot, seeing as we've got him on Shadowfax. Likewise, having an on foot and mounted version of Aragorn Elessar is a bit excessive. I'd trade the Gandalf the White, Elessar and Théoden statues for a single mounted Théoden.

As I've said before, the planning for the line has been incredibly shaky. There's lots of some things, and nothing of others... my biggest gripe personally is the Moria Orcs. Two statues and two busts (and a helm, weapon set and medallion), yet the combined armies of Gondor and Rohan are only represented by a single con-exclusive bust.

[Nemo Nint]

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>humans don't sell well<hr></blockquote>

yet hobbits doo... <img border=0 src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif" /> like the pippin bust?

no.. but gollum?

2 statues
2 busts
1 medallion
1 book

Sigh. Far more than ought to have been. *complains*

:)

Actually I'm glad the witchking got a lot of representation, the only character I complain about is Gollum.

*plays with plasticine* tum tee tum
*snaps a pic*

[elwood49]

And although I'm a huge Gandalf fan, and have been since I first read The Hobbit, I wouldn't have minded going without a Gandalf the White statue on foot, seeing as we've got him on Shadowfax. Likewise, having an on foot and mounted version of Aragorn Elessar is a bit excessive. I'd trade the Gandalf the White, Elessar and Théoden statues for a single mounted Théoden.

I agree with this completely. I've decided that I only want one statue of each character, which is why I haven't bought the Morgul Lord even though it is cool. The RWOS is all the Wiki I need. I think the regular Gandalf the While statue is completely unnecessary now that GOSF has been released. Same thing with Elessar. I'd sell both if I owned them.

I recently sold my Theoden statue also as he's not a major character that I need in my collection, but I would have kept a Theoden on Snowmane. Rider & Steed pieces are the main focus of my collection now.

[tomandshell]

I will display Aragorn on Brego with the rest of my collection, along with the other "Rider" statues. I do also have Elessar, but he is not on display with the rest of my statues, but is instead on a bookshelf in another room with my Tolkien books. Otherwise, I probably would sell him, since I do not personally want duplicate statues of the same character on display next to each other.

[buzzardio1080]

never knock the moria orcs
just dont
please
:poke

[leebgb]

It just doesn't seem like the pieces were planned well at all. Even though I like a lot of the older pieces (mostly enivironments) being released now like Amon Hen, Weathertop, Buckleberry Ferry, Wounded Orc bust, Rohirrim bust, etc... why are they being released now? Rather than creating Faramir, Denethor, etc. to complete the line it just seemed like they grabbed things they had sitting on the shelf and decided to release them instead.

I do agree with too many Gollums as well. If they really thought they needed a Smeagol bust for SDCC, they should have made a Smeagol as hobbit bust so at least we would be getting a new representation of him. :gollum

[gOzum]

Thanks Buzz for finding that CAPS LOCK key. I can now enjoy reading your posts. :clap

The only multiple Im pissed at is GTW. It really annoys me that I spend good money on this statue, only to find a better version as GoSF, that I had to buy. IMO the standing GTW AKA Moses should never have been made.

I quite like the 3 Ringwraith statues, as each is sufficiently different from each other.

I don't excuse the fact that sooooo many key human characters are missing and we got quite a few insignificant ones - Prologue busts?

I just reckon SSW dropped the ball at the end. If the same rate of production had continued throughout the license - rather than the big bloated ES - Im sure we'd have all the pieces we want.

[Fubeca]

I'd trade my Witch King bust for an Eowyn bust gladly

Who wouldn't? :naughty

[RoboDad3000]

Who wouldn't? :naughty
Somehow I think you and Maldaketh are talking about two completely different things... 8o

[elwood49]

Even though I like a lot of the older pieces (mostly enivironments) being released now like Amon Hen, Weathertop, Buckleberry Ferry, Wounded Orc bust, Rohirrim bust, etc... why are they being released now?

Because Weta has moved on from LOTR to work on Kong and Narnia. Therefore, they recycled many of the old sculpts as they didn't have as much time to create new ones.

[creecher]

To me it seems the lack of time should be the biggest complaint. Weta seem to have managed to secure another partnership, forsaking their previous commitments, like a sack of hardened concrete. What would have been wrong with extending their contracts till they finalised a few necessary pieces. Where did the love go?

Their inexperience has been proven. What hope for completion of Narnia and Kong? Hope for hopes sake, the future might see a renewal of the LotR licence, and a continuation of Sideshow as a partner. The future is unknown.

[buzzardio1080]

i have to agree
it seems silly to end such a wonderful line so uncomplete
although i will miss a faramir statue,and a gonorean soldier statue, etc
my biggest gripe by miles and miles is they didnt do a barad-dur, this almost makes me want to take my cave troll hammer to my entire collection (almost)..
i mean thta was why i spent 400 on orthanc, those two would have looked awsome.
oh and im not interested in banbury mint one even if it is in scale
:bang

[Heart Of Stone]

I do agree with too many Gollums as well. If they really thought they needed a Smeagol bust for SDCC, they should have made a Smeagol as hobbit bust so at least we would be getting a new representation of him.



I fully agree with your statement leebgb ! Would have been great to have atleast a bust for the guy that made Gollum/Smeagol what it was . Great scene in the movie that was as well ! Who won't remember Smeagol strangling the Hell out of Deagol ? Awesome !

[B Electronic]

I disagree. Smeagol/Gollum is one of the greatest characters in the book and absolutely fantastic in the movies. He deserves more pieces than the Witchking does imho. The statue that came with the dvd is one of my favourite pieces so far in the LOTR line. Fantastic sculpt. Couldnt have been better!