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MaulFan
01-17-2008, 06:42 PM
Well, I know plenty of my fellow Freaks are up for this movie, and now images are coming, it's totally happening and I look forward to sharing the excitment with me fellow fans.

http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/2065/3070/hi/14R.jpg

http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/2065/3070/hi/29R.jpg

http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/2065/3070/hi/49R.jpg

http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/2065/3070/hi/7r.jpg

I must say, Gillain Anderson is still gorgeous.

The Craw
01-17-2008, 06:54 PM
what? no "I want to believe" poster? blasphemy.

MaulFan
01-17-2008, 06:56 PM
Well, that doesn't look like his old office. If the film picks up where the show left off, they'd have to be working from somewhere else. There's still room for an "I Want To Believe" poster on another wall.

Andy Bergholtz
01-17-2008, 06:57 PM
Yes I noticed something was missing in those pix.... I took the liberty of fixing the problem. :)






http://www.absculpture.com/images/Andy's%20stuff/X%20fixed.jpg

MaulFan
01-17-2008, 06:58 PM
Awesome job Andy, but you should have given Duchovny some eyebrows while you were at it, he looks like he shaved them off in the desk shots.

The Craw
01-17-2008, 06:58 PM
great. now im gonna have to start watching my x files dvd's again to get in the x files spirit.

The Craw
01-17-2008, 06:59 PM
Awesome job Andy, but you should have given Duchovny some eyebrows while you were at it, he looks like he shaved them off in the desk shots.you also should have opened up scully's blouse a little.:lol

MaulFan
01-17-2008, 07:01 PM
you also should have opened up scully's blouse a little.:lol

Hey hey, show her a little respect. Go watch Season 7, you get some of that view in that one :lol

The Craw
01-17-2008, 07:05 PM
Hey hey, show her a little respect. Go watch Season 7, you get some of that view in that one :lolactually i think i might start from the beginning tonight. im waiting for the SS newsletter right now though. my computer isnt near a tv.

MaulFan
01-17-2008, 07:06 PM
Gillian is like a fine wine, she just gets more beautiful with age.

I really hope they get Mark Snow to score this movie, Chris Carter, David Duchovny, Gillain Anderson and Mark Snow are the biggest people for X-Files, take any one component away and it's not AS good.

King Darkness
01-17-2008, 07:07 PM
Gillian Anderson is still hot! I am excited to see Fox and Scully back on the big screen.

Reinhardt
01-17-2008, 08:44 PM
can't wait to see this!!! they look like they haven't aged a day!! (especially gillian anderson)

i miss that show so much.

MaulFan
01-17-2008, 08:47 PM
I think Duchovny shows a little age, but Gillian looks younger than Season 9.

Reinhardt
01-17-2008, 08:49 PM
I wonder if Mulder has finally shared his love for porn with scully in this pic.
he looks like he's enjoying the show, and scully looks like she's really getting into it.

:lol :lol :lol



http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/2065/3070/hi/29R.jpg

MaulFan
01-17-2008, 08:52 PM
I wonder if Mulder has finally shared his love for porn with scully in this pic.
he looks like he's enjoying the show, and scully looks like she's really getting into it.

:lol :lol :lol

Haha, that's disturbing thought, but you're right, Mulder's got a "yeah, that's how it's done" look on him and Scully's got a "ooh, I might have to try that" face going on haha.

Batty
01-17-2008, 08:53 PM
I wonder if Mulder has finally shared his love for porn with scully in this pic.
he looks like he's enjoying the show, and scully looks like she's really getting into it.

:lol :lol :lol

Maybe they're watching Californication. :lol

I'm really looking forward to this movie. I haven't heard anything about it lately. Thanks for the pics, MaulFan.

MaulFan
01-17-2008, 08:56 PM
No problem, I found them by sheer accident, I was reading a RAMBO article on the same site and saw a link to new X-Files pictures, I though it was just the one that was posted in the figure thread but then there were the others so I thought, you know we need to gather all the chat about this movie, I'm sure various people have different tidbits on it and I wanna find it all out.

Josette
01-17-2008, 09:07 PM
Gillian Anderson looks gorgeous in those pics. I've always thought she was pretty, though.

Buttmunch
01-17-2008, 10:46 PM
The Truth is Out there my fellow freaks. I'm a HUGE X-Files fan, ironically because of Sideshow's figures. I ordered Mulder and Scully for generic civillian/gov't agents to add to the display, but when Sideshow revealed CSM, I thought it was an ecellent likeness, but of who I didn't know. So I rented the first season and fell in love with it. I can't believe I didn't watch it when it was on TV because it is exacly the thing I like.

A little trivia, my user name acutally comes from an X-Files episode. Can you guess which one?

Swedish Lars
01-18-2008, 12:27 AM
A little trivia, my user name acutally comes from an X-Files episode. Can you guess which one?

Yeah! Its "Badlaa"! Creepy noises and muddy-bloody indian guy!

Im so excited about the new movie!
David looks old and I agree, Maulfan, Gillian i like a good (red!) wine! Stunning, she is!

¤ Love the picture with the Alien poster, Andy! GREAT WORK!!

BlindVoyeur
01-18-2008, 05:56 AM
I can't wait either... :D

Buttmunch
01-18-2008, 11:16 AM
Yeah! Its "Badlaa"! Creepy noises and muddy-bloody indian guy!

Im so excited about the new movie!
David looks old and I agree, Maulfan, Gillian i like a good (red!) wine! Stunning, she is!

ยค Love the picture with the Alien poster, Andy! GREAT WORK!!

Nope, try again.


I honestly have no idea if it was in that episode, but it isn't the episode where I got it.

BlindVoyeur
01-18-2008, 11:34 AM
You think you are reall seeing new X-files pictures?
Your scientists have yet to discover how neural networks create self-consciousness, let alone how the human brain processes two-dimensional retinal images into the three-dimensional phenomenon known as perception, yet you somehow brazenly declare seeing is believing? Mr. Crikenson, your scientific illiteracy makes me shudder, and I wouldn't flaunt your ignorance by telling anyone that you saw anything last night other than the planet Venus, because if you do, you're a dead man.

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

BlindVoyeur
01-18-2008, 11:35 AM
Btw, to answer the question, Buttmuch is from Little Green Men....

UTtoyfan
01-18-2008, 12:03 PM
Thanks for the great pics! Like everyone else I cannot wait for more X-File!! I was home watching FOX when these two new shows came on in 1993. One called "The Adventures of Brisco County Jr." and the second one called "The X-Files". Needless to say, I was hooked on both and while Brisco never made it into another season, I'm glad X-Files did!

tomandshell
01-18-2008, 12:05 PM
SPOILER WARNING!!!

***At a climactic point in the film, Mulder takes a moment to show Scully the Two Girls, One Cup video.***


http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/2065/3070/hi/29R.jpg

Andy Bergholtz
01-18-2008, 01:13 PM
LMAO... Nice. :)

Buttmunch
01-18-2008, 03:07 PM
Btw, to answer the question, Buttmuch is from Little Green Men....

You are correct sir.

Sachiel
01-18-2008, 06:53 PM
SPOILER WARNING!!!

http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/2065/3070/hi/49R.jpg
Mulder: Scully, I got something I want to show you.

http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/2065/3070/hi/29R.jpg
Scully: What is it Mulder?

http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/2065/3070/hi/14R.jpg
Mulder: Just watch.

Batty
01-18-2008, 06:55 PM
SPOILER WARNING!!!

Great, Tom! I knew I shouldn't have read that. :lol

IrishJedi
01-22-2008, 08:57 PM
WARNING! REAL SPOILERS!!!!

SERIOUSLY!


SET PIC REVEALS X-FILES 2 CREATURE!!!
















This is your last chance!!





For the last time, THIS IS NOT A JOKE.











Seriously!

















SCROLL REALLY FAST IF YOU DON'T WANNA SEE!!





























































http://joblo.com/newsimages1/xfilesset2.jpg












































































:rock :rock :rock :rock :rock

Sideshow, you'd better be making that bad boy!!! :rock

tomandshell
01-22-2008, 09:08 PM
http://joblo.com/newsimages1/xfilesset2.jpg




All that setup for a little red X?

IrishJedi
01-22-2008, 09:11 PM
Aw, crud. Here's a direct link to the page: http://joblo.com/excl-x-files-set-pics

tomandshell
01-22-2008, 09:11 PM
Aw, crud. Here's a direct link: http://joblo.com/newsimages1/xfilesset2.jpg

That work?

I get:


Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /newsimages1/xfilesset2.jpg on this server.

But try this one:

http://joblo.com/excl-x-files-set-pics

Now I am very intrigued...

IrishJedi
01-22-2008, 09:13 PM
Fixed. Linked to the page itself. There are 3-4 pics (all similar)

Click them for larger versions.

MaulFan
02-24-2008, 01:07 PM
Little bump as reports are out of a trailer existing and being shown recently at a convention. If anyone finds and active link to this trailer, please supply it.

Batty
02-24-2008, 01:39 PM
Here ya' go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHfPgWIDvAI

MaulFan
02-24-2008, 01:41 PM
Thanks Batty, very exciting, cool that it's in July.

The Craw
02-24-2008, 01:43 PM
nice. cant wait. though you cant tell much from that trailer.

Ironman1188
02-24-2008, 01:54 PM
What no Doggett and Reyes?

tomandshell
03-13-2008, 11:43 AM
Sounds like the sequel is set six years after the series finale:

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=5188


"We're not doing an exercise in nostalgia to appeal to the fans of the show," said co-writer and producer Frank Spotnitz.

MaulFan
03-13-2008, 11:46 AM
Sounds like the sequel is set six years after the series finale:

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=5188

Interesting. I sure hope there is explanation of what's gone on with Mulder and Scully since going on the lamb.

tomandshell
03-13-2008, 11:49 AM
It sounds like this is going to be pretty much a stand alone story, with very little connecting links to the mythology of the series.

IrishJedi
03-13-2008, 11:58 AM
It sounds like this is going to be pretty much a stand alone story, with very little connecting links to the mythology of the series.

It is stand-alone. And it's a monster movie. They also filmed it in the Vancouver area. The whole thing should have a vibe and look very similar to the first two seasons of the show. :rock :rock :rock

MaulFan
03-13-2008, 11:59 AM
Well, I trust the writers, X-Files is their baby, it's not like it's in new hands, so I'm sure whatever ties it doesn't have, the ones it does will make it feel like true X-Files. Sounds like it'll be more like the stand alone episodes of the series.

Bottom line, we're finally getting more X-Files, which is great, I was so torn up when the show went off the air, though it was less painful with Duchovny not being heavily involved in the last few seasons. While Doggett and Reyes were enjoyable, for me, The X-Files is Fox Mulder and Dana Scully, period, can't be it's best without them. I was so excited the episode when Mulder came back to life, I was on the edge of my seat the whole episode up until the moment when he wakes up.

tomandshell
03-13-2008, 12:04 PM
I almost prefer the idea of actually setting the film during the first half of the series VS. the idea of just picking things up like nothing ever happened. I know the average audience member will just remember Mulder and Scully as two FBI agents who investigate weird stuff, but it's a shame that the fans of the show are going to be given so little in the way of continuity with the established mythology of the show and the implications of how the series ended.

MaulFan
03-13-2008, 12:12 PM
Well, I'm sure $$$ is a heavy determining factor of where to go with the movie. Not tying it directly to the series allows them to do a story that's both rewarding for the devoted fans and appealing for newbies, just like was their approach with the first film. Get more people to go to see this, it boosts their box office sales as well as can boost DVD sales and re-run ratings on TV.

It is surprising though, with so much time passing since the show went off, and finally getting back to it, that they didn't opt to keep it going. You would think they'd really want to continue to explore it. Doing this film as years after the finale cancels out the idea that they wanted to preserve the vagueness of Mulder and Scully's future as established by the finale, because now we'll know about that.

Like I said, should still be fun to see more X.

JustinLuck
03-13-2008, 03:00 PM
I figure quite a few people who saw the X-files movie had never seen the TV show. It would make more sense to just follow the story from the original movie.

MaulFan
03-13-2008, 03:25 PM
I figure quite a few people who saw the X-files movie had never seen the TV show. It would make more sense to just follow the story from the original movie.

I was one of those people. First time I was exposed to the X-Files was the movie. For awhile, the commercials on FOX made it look like a weird show to me so I never gave it a try, but the movie looked cool and a friend of mine saw it and told me I could enjoy it knowing nothing about the show, and I did, and it made me want to watch the show and turned me into a fan. So gearing the movies to the unknowing crowd can expand the fan base, even though it's not as satisfying to the fan base as answering more of their questions.

Buttmunch
03-13-2008, 03:46 PM
I watched the original movie before I ever started watching the TV show. I hated it. After Sideshow announced Mulder and Scully, I started to watch the show, and loved it. I then rewatched the movie and liked it the second time around.

So I guess a monster of the week type of movie would do better than the Alien mythology that only makes sense to the TV show viewers.

doesitmatter
03-14-2008, 07:13 AM
Have you seen the pictures? Anderson and Duchovny look great but they could NOT pass for their 90's selves. I'm glad this is in the present day and I'm sure they'll catch us up (in a avgue sneaky way) with some dialogue.

Batty
03-28-2008, 08:15 AM
I don't know if this is offical or fan made, but it looks cool.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7130/xfiles2posteros9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

MaulFan
03-28-2008, 08:21 AM
Seems more fan made because of how little is actually in it, but I agree it looks nice, simplicity actually works well in it, but that fact makes me think it's not an official Hollywood poster.

Memnoch
03-28-2008, 08:40 AM
I don't know, if you see the trailer in the Other section and how sparse it is, this really rings true. And it is the X-Files style, Mulder, Scully, and the X. If it isn't the official teaser poster they need to make it the teaser poster.

MaulFan
03-28-2008, 08:51 AM
The star backdrop makes me think fan made though, based on the premise of the film, I don't think it has anything to do with space and the blend of the stars to the X section doesn't seem as subtle as I'd imagine the marketing group would be with an official poster.

lcummins
03-28-2008, 08:54 AM
The star backdrop makes me think fan made though, based on the premise of the film, I don't think it has anything to do with space and the blend of the stars to the X section doesn't seem as subtle as I'd imagine the marketing group would be with an official poster.


That is official... look down in the lower right corner and the logo and official web site are there. Go to www.xfiles.com (http://www.xfiles.com) to see the image.

Edit: I don't know if that is an "official" poster, but the image is from the movie site...

Batty
03-28-2008, 08:56 AM
That is official... look down in the lower right corner and the logo and official web site are there. Go to www.xfiles.com (http://www.xfiles.com) to see it...

When I typed that in earlier it just brought me to the Fox site. :confused:

lcummins
03-28-2008, 09:00 AM
When I typed that in earlier it just brought me to the Fox site. :confused:

The site is apparently under construction... I can get there with no problems... but it is the "untitled x-files motion picture" web site! :rotfl

Memnoch
03-28-2008, 09:00 AM
It's up now and official :chew The truth is out there!

Buttmunch
03-28-2008, 09:06 AM
WOW, I didn't know it was supposed to be coming out this year! I'll have to see if I can catch a showing at SDCC :chew

UTtoyfan
03-28-2008, 09:43 AM
I just saw the trailer in the other thread, and got too excited just now!:chew:chew
See? The wookiee dance :)

Kuzeh
03-28-2008, 12:33 PM
I love the concept of the poster, phisically impossible, but cool nonetheless!!

tomandshell
03-28-2008, 03:04 PM
According to the new site (now live), the official title is:

UNTITLED X-FILES MOTION PICTURE

http://www.xfiles.com/

Masao
04-03-2008, 07:27 AM
what? no "I want to believe" poster? blasphemy.

Here's mine:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3053/2311317543_874efa67c7.jpg

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

Sachiel
04-03-2008, 01:43 PM
Man put the teaser up already!

(No I don't want the Youtube video:emperor).

MaulFan
04-03-2008, 01:53 PM
Man put the teaser up already!

(No I don't want the Youtube video:emperor).

Was that officially a teaser or was that more like a marketing clip?

RAMBO had a clip come out in advance but it was to market the film to distributors and such, well before an official teaser or anything of the sort.

UTtoyfan
04-11-2008, 04:35 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=43992

Some new pictures that were posted on Comingsoon.net

With "Dark Knight" and "X-Files 2" coming out within a week of each other, it's gonna be busy for me!:chew:D

The Craw
04-11-2008, 04:45 PM
apparently these episodes are supposed to be an intro to the new film.
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/X-Files-Revelations/9368

MaulFan
04-11-2008, 05:18 PM
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=43992

Some new pictures that were posted on Comingsoon.net

With "Dark Knight" and "X-Files 2" coming out within a week of each other, it's gonna be busy for me!:chew:D

Thanks for the link. Man, Gillian's like wine, better with age, man she looks beautiful in this movie.

And since it doesn't really spoil anything, I'm going to post this one because it feels very X-Files to me :)

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/xfilesnewpicsa.jpg

UTtoyfan
04-11-2008, 07:37 PM
apparently these episodes are supposed to be an intro to the new film.
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/X-Files-Revelations/9368

Oh man, if I didn't have all 9 seasons on DVD I'd definitely get this. It brings back so many memories, and I need to watch all these episodes again!!

Batty
04-11-2008, 07:44 PM
apparently these episodes are supposed to be an intro to the new film.
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/X-Files-Revelations/9368

"Essential Guide to the X-Files Movie"? It sounds like a marketing gimmick to me. The movie is supposed to be a stand alone story not having anything to do with the series. And all those episodes don't have anything to do with each other. I guess it's good if you don't own any of the episodes already.

MaulFan
04-11-2008, 07:53 PM
"Essential Guide to the X-Files Movie"? It sounds like a marketing gimmick to me. The movie is supposed to be a stand alone story not having anything to do with the series. And all those episodes don't have anything to do with each other. I guess it's good if you don't own any of the episodes already.

Could it be that their stories don't have anything tied to the film but their style is reflected by the film, they're the type of episodes the tone and pace and what not of the film are based on?

tomandshell
04-11-2008, 07:53 PM
Scully looks nice with longer hair.

(Well, Gillian Anderson, but you know what I mean...)

UTtoyfan
04-11-2008, 07:57 PM
I'm watching 'Bad Blood' right now. I forgot how funny it was!!:lol

Batty
04-11-2008, 07:58 PM
Could it be that their stories don't have anything tied to the film but their style is reflected by the film, they're the type of episodes the tone and pace and what not of the film are based on?

It's still a marketing gimmick. But like I said, it's good if you don't already own any of the DVDs or know what X-Files is about.

And yes, Scully looks good with long hair.

YoNoSe
04-11-2008, 08:04 PM
It's kind of primer I think for people who don't remember or didn't follow the show too closely, but are interested in the movie. Like, the people who were born the year it came on and are now like 15. :D

Cripes I'm old....

DarkArtist81
04-11-2008, 08:11 PM
God, she's still as hot as ever. :monkey5

I really am excited about this movie though. I miss X-Files.

Batty
04-11-2008, 08:12 PM
It's kind of primer I think for people who don't remember or didn't follow the show too closely, but are interested in the movie. Like, the people who were born the year it came on and are now like 15. :D

Cripes I'm old....

:lol

You should probably pick it up then. It's a great show. And I have a feeling the movie will be too. You also get Movie Money. :joy

YoNoSe
04-11-2008, 08:27 PM
:lol

You should probably pick it up then. It's a great show. And I have a feeling the movie will be too. You also get Movie Money. :joy

Oh, no. I can recount just about everything up to season six from watching them first run. I LOVE the fact that this movie exists. I'm probably more excited about this than anything else this summer, just for it's sheer inexplicable existence.

Eventually I followed it through to the end in reruns, but I'm hard pressed to explain to my fiance how it all turned out. Everything gets pretty murky by the end...I remember Smokey had a cool exit, Scully had some kind of superbaby and I wanna say it's somehow half Mulder, but I don't think he ever actually got to check if the carpet matches the drapes, so to speak. And alien supersoldiers are allergic to rocks.

You know, maybe I do need a refresher....

The Craw
04-11-2008, 09:11 PM
i watched the episode "gender bender" last night and nicholas lea has a part in the episode but not as Krycek. weird.

Sachiel
04-11-2008, 11:11 PM
He's not the first. I've seen a few who've been on as different people.

UTtoyfan
04-12-2008, 05:12 AM
He's not the first. I've seen a few who've been on as different people.

For sure! Another big name(well big now because of 'Lost') that appeared more than once as different people was Terry O'Quinn(Locke!).
Of course, he was also on "Millenium" as a totally different character and was a major one at that.

MaulFan
04-12-2008, 08:02 AM
That's very common of shows back in the day, don't know about current dramas and such cuz I don't watch them, but often actors and actresses would be used again in different roles, typically spread a season or two a part at least, but for whatever reason they were used again.

Batty
04-16-2008, 02:04 PM
Chris Carter announced the official movie title is "I Want to Believe".

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080416/ap_en_mo/film_x_files_title

MaulFan
04-16-2008, 03:21 PM
Very promising that Scully looks gorgeous in every photo so far.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080416/capt.5fc97d6ba52d4374be9c247579abed3f.film_the_x_f iles_title_nyet110.jpg?x=400&y=247&sig=8zMsjHVb7HSmnF07y97_dQ--

tomandshell
04-16-2008, 03:30 PM
After reading these interviews, it sounds like Mulder and Scully have gone their separate ways with little to no explanation as to what they have been through over the past six years.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=5657

UTtoyfan
04-16-2008, 03:42 PM
Chris Carter announced the official movie title is "I Want to Believe".

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080416/ap_en_mo/film_x_files_title

Yay!!!!! I want to believe, and I want this movie to come out right now!!! :joy

UTtoyfan
05-01-2008, 02:04 PM
A little bump with some new pictures.

http://www.filmofilia.com/2008/04/28/2630/

MaulFan
05-01-2008, 03:07 PM
Thanks for the link UT, have to post this one in here, totally has a classic, early season look to it.

http://gallery.filmofilia.com/pixaria.image.php?file=L2hvbWUvLm1vZ2FkaXNodS9wb3B hYy9nYWxsZXJ5LmZpbG1vZmlsaWEuY29tL3Jlc291cmNlcy9sa WJyYXJ5L3hmaWxlczIvNjMweDYzMC94LWZpbGVzLXVwZC5qcGc =

And I'm not afraid to say it, this one is beautiful.

http://gallery.filmofilia.com/pixaria.image.php?file=L2hvbWUvLm1vZ2FkaXNodS9wb3B hYy9nYWxsZXJ5LmZpbG1vZmlsaWEuY29tL3Jlc291cmNlcy9sa WJyYXJ5L3hmaWxlczIvNjMweDYzMC94LWZpbGVzKzI4MDQzLmp wZw==

And check this one, the poster is there :rock

http://gallery.filmofilia.com/pixaria.image.php?file=L2hvbWUvLm1vZ2FkaXNodS9wb3B hYy9nYWxsZXJ5LmZpbG1vZmlsaWEuY29tL3Jlc291cmNlcy9sa WJyYXJ5L3hmaWxlczIvNjMweDYzMC94ZmlsZXMrMDQxMSsxLmp wZw==

Sachiel
05-01-2008, 10:45 PM
Trailer still isn't up?

Buttmunch
05-01-2008, 11:11 PM
That first pic doesn't look like the first season! She isn't pregnant! :lol

tomandshell
05-01-2008, 11:14 PM
She also looks too much like Amanda Peet.

UTtoyfan
05-01-2008, 11:16 PM
She also looks too much like Amanda Peet.

:rotfl Good eye Tom ;)

UTtoyfan
05-10-2008, 10:35 PM
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=6020


Some viral videos, but the best news is that the trailer hits Monday!:chew

scubasteve
05-10-2008, 11:07 PM
http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=6020


Some viral videos, but the best news is that the trailer hits Monday!:chew

Awesome. So pumped :chew

The Craw
05-11-2008, 01:27 PM
finally finished season 1 on dvd the other night. it only took me about 1 month. my plan of watching the whole series before the movie hits might be a little far fetched me thinks.

IrishJedi
05-11-2008, 01:29 PM
The main reason why this will look/feel like the first few seasons is because it was shot in Vancouver. :lecture

Darth Rage
05-11-2008, 05:15 PM
i watched the episode "gender bender" last night and nicholas lea has a part in the episode but not as Krycek. weird.

Nicholas Lea got the part as Krycek because Chris Carter thought he was such a great actor in the episode gender bender. He was basically looking for an excuse to bring him back on the show.

Johnny Utah
05-12-2008, 06:39 AM
That and Callum Keith Rennie didn't want to play Krycek,but instead pops up in this here movie.

Joranthalus
05-12-2008, 07:33 AM
so i've watched the trailer, and have no idea what the plot might be...

Also, the one dude looks like John Cleese in a wig...

I'd like this movie to be good, but it's pretty hit or miss with Carter....

MaulFan
05-12-2008, 09:22 AM
Just finished watching the trailer, looking good to me, very excited to have more adventures for Mulder and Scully coming, and definitely looks like they've parted ways for some reason, I hope they at least give some indication how they've gone from in each other's arms in hiding to functioning in society again and not being together.

Darth Caedus
05-12-2008, 12:03 PM
This one works if the other link doesn't
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36716

I guess the main thing is, WTF is the movie about?

Darth Caedus
05-12-2008, 12:03 PM
so i've watched the trailer, and have no idea what the plot might be...

Also, the one dude looks like John Cleese in a wig...

I'd like this movie to be good, but it's pretty hit or miss with Carter....

Billy Connolly is AWESOME !!!!!

Joranthalus
05-12-2008, 06:22 PM
not familiar with him as far as an actor except for a few bit parts here and there... his comedy is ok...

and he looks like John Cleese in a wig :D

GrueSam
05-12-2008, 07:06 PM
I want this movie to be good too...

But even if it sucks, I'll still be happy just seeing my favorite team back on a screen together!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/gruesam/Emoticons/TheTruthisOutThere.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/gruesam/Emoticons/rockon.gif

tomandshell
06-02-2008, 07:46 PM
Check out the new Russian trailer:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v8VgqxbZeo8

UTtoyfan
06-02-2008, 08:46 PM
Check out the new Russian trailer:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v8VgqxbZeo8

Pretty neat! The only thing I understood was:

"Scully?"

"Mulder?"
:lol:rotfl

YoNoSe
06-02-2008, 08:56 PM
Pretty neat! The only thing I understood was:

"Scully?"

"Mulder?"
:lol:rotfl

That's about all I got out of the US trailer, too. :D

How come international trailers are always better than ours for our own movies?! It seems like this one explains a lot more. If you speak Russian.
Somewhere Chris Carter is laughing.:rotfl

Batty
06-06-2008, 06:17 PM
The new trailer is great!

http://movies.yahoo.com/summer-movies/X-Files-I-Want-to-Believe/1809953361/trailers/140/939

UTtoyfan
06-06-2008, 09:24 PM
The new trailer is great!

http://movies.yahoo.com/summer-movies/X-Files-I-Want-to-Believe/1809953361/trailers/140/939

Thank you very much, Batty. That rocked!!! When Billy Connely's eyes were bleeding it almost looked like black oil:horror:horror:horror!

MaulFan
06-07-2008, 08:54 AM
The new trailer is great!

http://movies.yahoo.com/summer-movies/X-Files-I-Want-to-Believe/1809953361/trailers/140/939

Indeed it does, and it looks like the Russian trailer, funny how someone comments overseas gets the best trailers and a few days later we get the American version. TDK and X-Files 2 back to back weeks, end of July is going to :rock

Zabrak Nut
06-09-2008, 04:04 PM
Gillian Anderson makes it feel like Christmas in the Summer, and Springtime in November...
I haven't had time to read up on the plot much, but all I know is that is s'posed to stray away from the UFO conspiracy a bit, and that HOT TOYS is ready to pounce...

Jair
06-09-2008, 04:12 PM
Wish they would update the primary web site, other then the new trailer and some images, it really needs some wallpaper, extras....just anything I'm starved for the goodness that X Files was.



Evan

MaulFan
06-23-2008, 06:54 AM
A bit overshadowed by Iron Man, Hulk and Dark Knight, but only 1 more month until the adventures of Mulder and Scully continue, I can't wait, I've missed these guys :rock

Kuzeh
06-23-2008, 03:24 PM
Hell yeahh!! :rock
My wife and I have been watching all the episodes on DVD,
we started about a year ago, we're about to finish season 5 and check the first movie, I'm not sure if we'll be able to watch all of them before the movie comes out though... but, yeah, definitely hyped!!

http://www.gifmania.co.uk/tv-series/X-Files/xfiles452.gif

MaulFan
07-24-2008, 05:10 PM
Tomorrow :rock :rock

Chapter 2099
07-24-2008, 05:22 PM
Tomorrow :rock :rock

Scully and Mulder united once again !!!! I'm totally geeking out right now watching some of the highlight eps. throughout the 9 seasons. Can't wait; less than 24 hrs. away.... :cool:

shaun-o
07-24-2008, 05:25 PM
Tomorrow :rock :rock
Got a sitter lined up so it's date night for my wife and I!!!!:rock :rock

CelticPredator
07-24-2008, 09:57 PM
Yikes....I read a spoiler review.....yeah, I think im gonna skip this. :(

Adoptedscot
07-24-2008, 11:56 PM
I will transfer this into the Movies/Tv Section
x :D

Sick Boy 82
07-25-2008, 10:51 AM
Some friends went to a showing last night with free tickets from our local radio morning show and they were super stoked to see it and then told me it was about as good as a regular episode. So if that swings it one way or another for some people....

Either way, I already have tickets to the 5:10 showing tonight!! I love X-Files!!!

YoNoSe
07-25-2008, 04:46 PM
Some friends went to a showing last night with free tickets from our local radio morning show and they were super stoked to see it and then told me it was about as good as a regular episode. So if that swings it one way or another for some people....

Either way, I already have tickets to the 5:10 showing tonight!! I love X-Files!!!

I just got back...your buddies were right!:D

Without spoiling anything, I think it was a weak x-file for a movie, but nontheless I enjoyed seeing Mulder and Scully again. No one who is not already a fan will be converted. It was a mediocre episode but I'll take what I can get. Ona scale of 1 to 11 I give it a B+!:banana

MaulFan
07-25-2008, 05:28 PM
Went this afternoon.

This was a good story for an episode of the show, but didn't quite have the oomph I'd hope for as a movie.

To be fair, I think if this movie had been released shortly after the series ended, I think it would have been fine. My only anticipation for this movie was finally another adventure of Mulder and Scully, and it was a fun movie, but for their first adventure back after so long, it felt like there wasn't as much substance as there could have been, and it felt a little un X-Files in its pace and style until like the last half hour, that felt hardcore X-Files season 1.

If you like the X-File, you'll enjoy this movie, but if you're hoping for something really spectacular to make up for all the years off air, I don't think this quite delivers.

Chapter 2099
07-25-2008, 08:40 PM
Went this afternoon.

This was a good story for an episode of the show, but didn't quite have the oomph I'd hope for as a movie.

To be fair, I think if this movie had been released shortly after the series ended, I think it would have been fine. My only anticipation for this movie was finally another adventure of Mulder and Scully, and it was a fun movie, but for their first adventure back after so long, it felt like there wasn't as much substance as there could have been, and it felt a little un X-Files in its pace and style until like the last half hour, that felt hardcore X-Files season 1.

If you like the X-File, you'll enjoy this movie, but if you're hoping for something really spectacular to make up for all the years off air, I don't think this quite delivers.

I should being seeing it this weekend hopefully. Like most are saying, I'm just excited to see Mulder and Scully back together after so long. Man, I miss that show. Thank you Fox for releasing the box sets.

Kabukiman
07-25-2008, 09:16 PM
Would you call this the Star Trek Insurection of X-Files? :confused:

MaulFan
07-25-2008, 09:21 PM
Would you call this the Star Trek Insurection of X-Files? :confused:

If I understood the point of view towards ST Insurrection I might be able to comment. What's the negative feeling towards that movie?

Kabukiman
07-25-2008, 09:30 PM
While a decent enough episode of Star Trek, Insurrection lacked the epic scope that one would expect from a 'movie.'

MaulFan
07-26-2008, 09:06 AM
While a decent enough episode of Star Trek, Insurrection lacked the epic scope that one would expect from a 'movie.'

Gotcha, ya I'd say that's true then. Hard to say though, there's definitely an emotional influence from the fact we haven't seen a Mulder and Scully adventure in years, which is why I said if this had shortly followed the finale, I might think differently of it. Of the two X movie, I'd say Fight the Future was the better.

YoNoSe
07-26-2008, 09:31 AM
I didn't mind the small scope...I thought it was reasonable for a case that would get Mulder back into action. I just thought the villain's whole plan was pretty muddled and the resolution is not very satisfying. I enjoyed all the character stuff w/ Mulder & Scully, and the stuff between Scully and Billy Connelly.

MaulFan
07-26-2008, 09:54 AM
I didn't like the mentioning of Mulder's sister again. I thought the Samanth plotline had closed nicely in season 7 when Mulder found the army base where she'd been adbucted too and learned of Smoking man's involvement and all, Mulder had found piece with her being gone and to reintroduce that as a driving force behind him felt wrong to me.

YoNoSe
07-26-2008, 10:04 AM
I didn't like the mentioning of Mulder's sister again. I thought the Samanth plotline had closed nicely in season 7 when Mulder found the army base where she'd been adbucted too and learned of Smoking man's involvement and all, Mulder had found piece with her being gone and to reintroduce that as a driving force behind him felt wrong to me.

Re: your spoiler - I didn't mind that as much as -

The inexplicable, and barely mentioned, death of Scully's baby. It just seemed a way too convenient dumping of a poorly executed plot line. I am fuzzy on the last season, but I was under the impression that the baby had been put up for adoption anonymously, for it's own protection against interested parties. Is that how it ended in the series?

MaulFan
07-26-2008, 10:05 AM
Re: your spoiler - I didn't mind that as much as -

The inexplicable, and barely mentioned, death of Scully's baby. It just seemed a way too convenient dumping of a poorly executed plot line. I am fuzzy on the last season, but I was under the impression that the baby had been put up for adoption anonymously, for it's own protection against interested parties. Is that how it ended in the series?

I guess I missed something in the movie.

I didn't get the impression William died, I thought the discussion of him was regarding shipping him off for adoption, that's how the series left it, Scully sent him away because the super soldiers were after him.

YoNoSe
07-26-2008, 10:07 AM
I guess I missed something in the movie.

I didn't get the impression William died, I thought the discussion of him was regarding shipping him off for adoption, that's how the series left it, Scully sent him away because the super soldiers were after him.

You may be right. I might have misunderstood what was actually being discussed in the movie. They were whispering an awful lot.:D

Ultimate Weapon
07-27-2008, 01:11 AM
Just saw this flick tonight and I have to agree with most of the sentiments of others. Basically I enjoyed the entire movie other than the case itself. The character development picked up nicely and it was a believable continuation point. To keep this spoiler free I'll get more specific here:

First off, to answer the above comment on William - Scully was simply referring to the adoption of William - their "loss" - not his death.

So basically this was Silence of the Lambs meets Frankenstein. A Russian man's lover wants a sex change through a full body transplant. Interesting concept - for a regular episode. If you replaced this case file with somethine else, the movie would have increased tenfold.

Mulder and Scully - perfect continuation that was very respectful of the show's ending. I like the lead in that makes you think they are no longer together only to find that they really are living off the beaten path together - well done.

There's no reason that Xzibit or Amanda Peet couldn't have been replaced with another agent from the tv show - Doggett could have been interesting, but maybe they just wanted to get away from anyone that would distract from Mulder and Scully.

Skinner should have shown up (and I was expecting him to) once the helicopter landed and Xzibit says he wasn't the one who sent it.

A little more exposition about Mulder being exonerated after the case wrapped would have been nice. Something like in Manhunter, you know, when the FBI profiler returns to help the bureau solve the tooth fairy murders.

It also would have been nice if the case had the smallest hint of a connection or lead in to the whole 2012 thing from the series finale, almost like the joker card at the end of Batman Begins.

It just seemed as though there were some missed opportunities in what could be the last X-Files story. Even if the case had concerned child abduction instead, which could have connected the pedophile aspect, Mulder's lost sister, Scully's fight to save the child in the hospital and even William, it might have been a stronger element though this plotline was examined several times in the series.

I did like the end where they were rowing away to the vacation island and waved at the camera.

Overall a weird little story made up the plot, but it just wasn't quite as epic as a film case could/should have been. So B/B+ for me. I am glad they didn't jump back into the FBI or anything like that. Maybe Skinner could have asked if they were interested though ...

YoNoSe
07-27-2008, 07:20 AM
Just saw this flick tonight and I have to agree with most of the sentiments of others. Basically I enjoyed the entire movie other than the case itself. The character development picked up nicely and it was a believable continuation point. To keep this spoiler free I'll get more specific here:

First off, to answer the above comment on William - Scully was simply referring to the adoption of William - their "loss" - not his death.

So basically this was Silence of the Lambs meets Frankenstein. A Russian man's lover wants a sex change through a full body transplant. Interesting concept - for a regular episode. If you replaced this case file with somethine else, the movie would have increased tenfold.

Mulder and Scully - perfect continuation that was very respectful of the show's ending. I like the lead in that makes you think they are no longer together only to find that they really are living off the beaten path together - well done.

There's no reason that Xzibit or Amanda Peet couldn't have been replaced with another agent from the tv show - Doggett could have been interesting, but maybe they just wanted to get away from anyone that would distract from Mulder and Scully.

Skinner should have shown up (and I was expecting him to) once the helicopter landed and Xzibit says he wasn't the one who sent it.

A little more exposition about Mulder being exonerated after the case wrapped would have been nice. Something like in Manhunter, you know, when the FBI profiler returns to help the bureau solve the tooth fairy murders.

It also would have been nice if the case had the smallest hint of a connection or lead in to the whole 2012 thing from the series finale, almost like the joker card at the end of Batman Begins.

It just seemed as though there were some missed opportunities in what could be the last X-Files story. Even if the case had concerned child abduction instead, which could have connected the pedophile aspect, Mulder's lost sister, Scully's fight to save the child in the hospital and even William, it might have been a stronger element though this plotline was examined several times in the series.

I did like the end where they were rowing away to the vacation island and waved at the camera.

Overall a weird little story made up the plot, but it just wasn't quite as epic as a film case could/should have been. So B/B+ for me. I am glad they didn't jump back into the FBI or anything like that. Maybe Skinner could have asked if they were interested though ...


I agree with pretty much everything you said. And thanks for clearing up the detail about the baby.

MaulFan
07-27-2008, 08:54 AM
I did like the end where they were rowing away to the vacation island and waved at the camera.

Was this after the credits or something, I didn't see this.

YoNoSe
07-27-2008, 09:23 AM
Was this after the credits or something, I didn't see this.

It was about halfway through the credits.

MaulFan
07-27-2008, 09:24 AM
Damn, oh well, I'll catch it on DVD, wasn't expecting credit clips in an X-Files movie. A few movies do it now they all do, typical.

CelticPredator
07-28-2008, 04:31 PM
This movie just failed. THey shoulda put in some aliens or something. Very disappointed. :(

YoNoSe
07-28-2008, 04:38 PM
This movie never had a chance. It was greenlighted as an emergency "writer's strike" script so that they could have something to roll cameras on just in case. The ad campaign told you nothing (in a bad way) and the bad taste some people had left in their mouths from the last few seasons seems to have only gotten worse with time. It's kind of a miracle it happened at all. Oh, well.... :)

NASEDO
07-28-2008, 07:39 PM
The movie bombed, which sucks, but it makes sense. It was advertised as just another case, nothing to do with the x-files. All to try and make the non fans see it, but it back-fired. I'm a big X-files fan but when I heard this I wasn't too excited, and the reviews where so-so. I might still go see it, DVD is a definite. But this might be the end of the X-files. I heard Carter wanted to make a Millenium movie but is was denied by the studios, so why would another X-files get a go.

MaulFan
07-28-2008, 07:57 PM
I don't consider this movie a bomb persay. It's a great episode of the X-Files, but where Fight the Future took the show and expanded upon it, this movie just delivers what you'd get in a normal episode of the show. It didn't have movie bang, it was just a high end, 2 hour episode to continue the series. It's nice if you want to see these guys together again, but hopefully they make another and produce something with a bit more punch.

tomandshell
07-28-2008, 08:01 PM
It was advertised as just another case, nothing to do with the x-files.

It was advertised? When? I never saw a single trailer or commercial for it other than what I saw online because I searched it out. I think I saw one poster in the theater, that was it.

I knew people that were interested in this but had no idea when it was coming out. Fox did a terrible job selling this movie and it's almost like they gave up in a crowded summer and just decided to let it pass by unnoticed.

EVILFACE
07-28-2008, 08:28 PM
It was advertised? When? I never saw a single trailer or commercial for it other than what I saw online because I searched it out. I think I saw one poster in the theater, that was it.

I knew people that were interested in this but had no idea when it was coming out. Fox did a terrible job selling this movie and it's almost like they gave up in a crowded summer and just decided to let it pass by unnoticed.

I saw the trailer for it several times. Not being a X-Files fan and one who only saw the first movie, I had no interest in seeing it. And the trailer just had some blind looking dude doing nothing but dig in the snow and ice blabbing "its over here" no "over here" didn't entice my interest any more. With only 10mil opening weekend, no one else cared either.

Sucks for the fans though.

CelticPredator
07-28-2008, 08:53 PM
I want to spoil the movie for everyone. Nothing happens. There.

barbelith
07-28-2008, 08:54 PM
The movie bombed

Not exactly. It was a $30 million film with minimal advertising. It recouped a third of its budget in three days and will make the rest back during the remainder of its domestic and international run. It will also make a mint on DVD. I don't think some of you understand how the movie business works, especially small pictures that fall outside the $100 million blockbuster paradigm.

The biggest problem with the film was that it's not a summer movie. It should have been released in winter and would have made much more money as a small character thriller.

CelticPredator
07-28-2008, 08:55 PM
Also, why do the X-Files movies have a lot of snow? First one had its third act set in Antartica, this one in some snowy hick town....hmmm.

barbelith
07-28-2008, 08:58 PM
I want to spoil the movie for everyone. Nothing happens.

It depends what you're looking at. The plot is slight but then this isn't a movie designed for set pieces and spectacle. It's a character piece and quite a bit happens for Mulder and Scully as characters. They go through a bigger arc than they ever did on TV and both end the film in very different places than they started it.

It's not the movie I wanted, but instead of judging based on that like so many seem to be doing I chose to watch it again on its own terms. It's successful in what it sets out to do and it's fairly cerebral, which is probably why so many of its critics don't seem to actually understand what's really happening in it.

barbelith
07-28-2008, 09:10 PM
A Russian man's lover wants a sex change through a full body transplant.

I don't think that's what's actually happening. He's dying and his lover is trying to find him a new body. I think he's taking women because that's what he has access to and is able to easily kidnap. This directly parallels what's happening to Scully at the hospital. She's fighting to save a boy she's obviously projecting on re: William and the only way to do that is through a radical and controversial procedure the Catholic authorities find abhorrent and ultimately ban. The script isn't offering moral parity between what she's doing and what the Russians are doing but both raise the same question: When does trying to save a life cross the line?

CelticPredator
07-28-2008, 09:17 PM
It depends what you're looking at. The plot is slight but then this isn't a movie designed for set pieces and spectacle. It's a character piece and quite a bit happens for Mulder and Scully as characters. They go through a bigger arc than they ever did on TV and both end the film in very different places than they started it.

It's not the movie I wanted, but instead of judging based on that like so many seem to be doing I chose to watch it again on its own terms. It's successful in what it sets out to do and it's fairly cerebral, which is probably why so many of its critics don't seem to actually understand what's really happening in it.

It just seemed....un inspired. Like for instance...had they had a diffrerent, more X-Filey case, toned down, or ENDED the kid subplot, it would've been better. Acting was fine, the directing was fine, the story.....that was not fine.

YoNoSe
07-29-2008, 03:05 AM
Having no ending to the subplot about the kid is the whole point of that subplot. It's about finding faith to proceed, not the result. I thought that was well done.

CelticPredator
07-29-2008, 08:23 AM
That doesnt make it any better...

YoNoSe
07-29-2008, 08:34 AM
It does to me. :)

CelticPredator
07-29-2008, 08:38 AM
Whatever helps you sleep at night. :)

YoNoSe
07-29-2008, 08:47 AM
Whatever helps you sleep at night. :)

Actually movies don't affect my sleep pattern. :rolleyes:

CelticPredator
07-29-2008, 09:39 AM
You just "Want to Belive" that.

Anyway someone on IMDB brought up an intresting point...


You leave the theater asking yourself questions that Scully has:
"Why would God let a child suffer from brain cancer?"
"Is there a God?"
"How do you trust a pedophyle?"
"How do you forgive a Priest that has molested 37 kids?"

The X-Files attacked issues about morality, and faith.

This movie opened up alot of those issues for the viewer to think about.

Add in a creepy premis with some Mulder humour and there you have it.

I just remember coming out of the theater thinking two things (after the credits)

Did I just see them wave me goodbye? What the hell? Were they mocking me? Laughing at me because they took my money????

Meh.

YoNoSe
07-29-2008, 10:03 AM
With all due respect, you might want to try discussing movies without having to imply that people who disagree with you are in denial. I know exactly how mediocre this movie is, and said so earlier. That doesn't mean that my enjoyment of the character and thematic elements isn't legit.
I have no issue with you not liking it. If you want to discuss that, cool.
If you just want to argue, I'm sure someone else will take you up on it.
:duff

CelticPredator
07-29-2008, 10:29 AM
No, I want to vent. Im sure all those points can be thought out and very intresting....but man....that last scene....I feel cheated.

barbelith
07-29-2008, 11:10 AM
With all due respect, you might want to try discussing movies without having to imply that people who disagree with you are in denial.

I'll never understand the rampant insecurity displayed by so many on the Internet.

CelticPredator
07-29-2008, 11:16 AM
I used to have it...but then I got over it, and discovered that...people have diffrerent opinions! (Unless you like The Happening, and or like Uwe Boll films)

YoNoSe
07-29-2008, 11:48 AM
It's a character piece and quite a bit happens for Mulder and Scully as characters. They go through a bigger arc than they ever did on TV and both end the film in very different places than they started it.

Really, that's the best part. The FBI calling was sort of like the other shoe dropping for Mulder and Scully. They're playing house, but what happens when the X-files show up again? It gives them another layer of reality beyond just being types that exist to pursue the monsters.
I'm looking forward to this on DVD. I think it will definitely play better in my living room.

CelticPredator
07-29-2008, 12:03 PM
I did really like some shots, I liked the shot where that one person was falling. Really cool...

EVILFACE
07-29-2008, 01:15 PM
Not exactly. It was a $30 million film with minimal advertising. It recouped a third of its budget in three days and will make the rest back during the remainder of its domestic and international run. It will also make a mint on DVD. I don't think some of you understand how the movie business works, especially small pictures that fall outside the $100 million blockbuster paradigm.

The biggest problem with the film was that it's not a summer movie. It should have been released in winter and would have made much more money as a small character thriller.

It's a bomb cause it was expected to make more. It made less on saturday than it did on friday, which is never a good sign. Even if it makes it budget back, it was a bomb.

MaulFan
07-29-2008, 01:35 PM
As a movie, I'll agree, this was a flop. It's a great X story, but nothing about it felt movie quality and in the current economy, people aren't going to use the gas and spend $20 or more to go see a 2 hour tv show, they'll wait for DVD. I can see this succeeding on DVD where it's cheaper and easier to see, but as a film, much as I enjoyed it, I can see it doing poorly in the theater because it's not a story for a theater experience.

barbelith
07-29-2008, 03:49 PM
It's a bomb cause it was expected to make more. It made less on saturday than it did on friday, which is never a good sign. Even if it makes it budget back, it was a bomb.

Except that's not really how it works. There is no way in hell FOX expected to make blockbuster money on a $30 million budget and anyone who thinks they did needs to go back to school. Any picture that earns a third of its budget back the opening weekend is a success. I Want to Believe will most likely recoup its budget by the time domestic and international box office is tallied up at the end of the year and even if it doesn't it will turn a profit on home video, where The X-Files has proven so lucrative they've released the the entire series three times on DVD alone. Plus two anthologies.

The bean counters don't give a damn what whiners on the Internet think. It was a modest gamble that from their perspective will have paid off ... a gamble budgeted at a modest $30 million with no ad budget precisely because they didn't expect blockbuster numbers.

Now of course the bean counters aren't the people who schedule release dates, and the studio blundered there. Although to be fair nobody was expecting The Dark Knight to be so huge, and that film even killed Hellboy 2 despite much better reviews than the first Hellboy.

I Want to Believe is only a bomb by summer blockbuster standards, but if FOX thought that's what it was they would have thrown $100 million at it and asked for aliens. Meanwhile they'll ultimately turn a profit, sell some more copies of their complete series box set and let the franchise percolate for another few years before doing the whole thing over again with another small film.

barbelith
07-29-2008, 03:51 PM
I can see it doing poorly in the theater because it's not a story for a theater experience.

I agree with this. It's one reason I only pay to see spectacle anymore even though I prefer smaller films. I just wait to watch those on DVD at home. I Want to Believe will make its budget on home video alone.

MaulFan
07-29-2008, 03:54 PM
Speaking as someone who never watched the X-Files before Fight the Future, I can say I don't think I Want To Believe has any draw new audience value. Granted, the series is over so it'd just be drawing in DVD buyers, but still, this one isn't a movie for the non-fan, if you don't understand these characters and the situation behind where there at, this could actually be quite and unappealing film. This movie is made for the fans, to give them more of what they followed.

NASEDO
07-29-2008, 08:01 PM
10 mil is a bomb. I talked to a Movie Geek today and asked about the movie. From what I thought Carter wanted to make a movie where non-fans would go see, and then this would make new fans. But why would a non-fan go see this, and why would a fan go see this, when nothing was exposed. It should of been put on Fox, a made for tv movie. And this 10 mil is a bad selling point for any future movie, So I assume the X-files is over.

MaulFan
07-29-2008, 08:07 PM
I don't think X-Files is/should be over, but if it's to survive past this movie, the next film should really be worked on. Film quality story, more powerful shooting, locations, and events, and be accessible to fans and nonfans alike.

barbelith
07-30-2008, 10:08 AM
10 mil is a bomb.

For a $30 million picture? Not by a long shot, especially considering what opening weekends usually portend for cumulative box office for the rest of a theatrical run. Really, I'm laughing my ass off here at the bomb pronouncements, because they're obviously being made by people who don't understand the business. Critically mauled? Most studios would kill to make $10 million on a $30 million film in just three days.

JustinLuck
07-30-2008, 06:43 PM
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I still don't understand why they didn't continue the story from the first X-files movie. Wouldn't it have been more successful?

MaulFan
07-30-2008, 06:46 PM
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I still don't understand why they didn't continue the story from the first X-files movie. Wouldn't it have been more successful?

It's been awhile, but I believe the season after the first movie included continuation of that films events. So really, either they could go prequel route or continue after the finale.

Ultimate Weapon
07-31-2008, 01:06 AM
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I still don't understand why they didn't continue the story from the first X-files movie. Wouldn't it have been more successful?

Everything from the first film was already wrapped up in the series - at least the major plot points. The alien invasion, human conspiracy and colonization plot all reached closure around season 6/7. Even Cancer Man and Krycek along with the Lone Gunmen all had their story arcs "completed" in rather finalized ways by the time the series wrapped up with Season 9.

The only other mythology continuation that could be brought into the films is the whole "super-soldier" plot that surfaced in Seasons 8/9 mostly with Dogget, and culminating in the Series finale when Mulder returned. There is some type of alien/super-soldier master plan that is supposed to occur in 2012-ish according to the finale, which is what brought Mulder back and remains the unfinished arc, which could be continued on film. But the original alien colonization conspiracy which encompassed the first six seasons and first film has been resolved.

So yeah, if you watch the series through Season 6/7 you should get all the answers to the original flick.

Ultimate Weapon
07-31-2008, 01:22 AM
A Russian man's lover wants a sex change through a full body transplant.
I don't think that's what's actually happening. He's dying and his lover is trying to find him a new body. I think he's taking women because that's what he has access to and is able to easily kidnap. This directly parallels what's happening to Scully at the hospital. She's fighting to save a boy she's obviously projecting on re: William and the only way to do that is through a radical and controversial procedure the Catholic authorities find abhorrent and ultimately ban. The script isn't offering moral parity between what she's doing and what the Russians are doing but both raise the same question: When does trying to save a life cross the line?

Yeah, I get the relationships between the storylines, the parallels and the questions that the film is raising.

However, in viewing the film I thought that it was a significant point that only women were being kidnapped for the grafting/transplant procedures. The dying Russian (Franz) was molested by the priest as a child. He also is in love with the other Russian man (Janke) who is doing what he can to save him seemingly regardless of the deeds he has to perform in order to do so.

While the film does not specifically elaborate on this issue, could not one interpretation be that this man, who was molested and is dying also sees a chance at rebirth in a new form (a woman) through this process? Perhaps it is that women are just easier for Janke to abduct and in order to save Franz's life and the issue of man vs. woman body parts is inconsequential. But perhaps it does mean something. I think the film can fall under either interpretation and since it is not stated within the film, this issue seems to be left open.

barbelith
07-31-2008, 11:29 AM
While the film does not specifically elaborate on this issue, could not one interpretation be that this man, who was molested and is dying also sees a chance at rebirth in a new form (a woman) through this process?

I agree it's open to interpretation, but our real world understanding of homosexuality makes this unlikely. We're told directly the two men legally married. Gay men are men. They are attracted to other men. The likelihood that Franz wants to be a woman or that Janke wants to be with a woman are vanishingly remote. This interpretation would require us to accept an alternative sexuality for both characters, and that's not something the film gives us.

To be honest, I think what's probably really happening is that Chris Carter just made the characters gay so the audience was less likely to figure out what's happening before Mulder and Scully do, and as a result didn't think through the implications. But you're right that the lack of explanations leaves this part of the story open to multiple interpretations. I feel there should have been an explicit connection between the surgery and the female victims one way or another.

barbelith
07-31-2008, 11:35 AM
The only other mythology continuation that could be brought into the films is the whole "super-soldier" plot that surfaced in Seasons 8/9 mostly with Dogget, and culminating in the Series finale when Mulder returned. There is some type of alien/super-soldier master plan that is supposed to occur in 2012-ish according to the finale, which is what brought Mulder back and remains the unfinished arc, which could be continued on film. But the original alien colonization conspiracy which encompassed the first six seasons and first film has been resolved.

I haven't seen the final seasons in a while, but my understanding is that the CSM reveals the alien colonization date is December 22, 2012 (the end of the Mayan calendar). There may have been implications the super solders were devised as a defense against the invasion as well. So the first film was "resolved" in seasons six and seven in terms of the Conspiracy and the immediate alien presence on Earth.

Presumably a third film would come out in four years and deal with Mulder and Scully preventing the actual invasion and finishing off the handful of super soldiers. Based on the performance of I Want to Believe it would probably be a small scale movie that deals mostly with shadows and conspiracies with Mulder and Scully managing to prevent the colonists from ever arriving, rather than flying saucers zipping around.

NASEDO
07-31-2008, 02:35 PM
For a $30 million picture? Not by a long shot, especially considering what opening weekends usually portend for cumulative box office for the rest of a theatrical run. Really, I'm laughing my ass off here at the bomb pronouncements, because they're obviously being made by people who don't understand the business. Critically mauled? Most studios would kill to make $10 million on a $30 million film in just three days.


Your funny. Buisness. Why would a studio want to go and give the go ahead for another movie? The Studios want to make profit. The 1st film opened to 30mil and grossed 83 mil. You dont make movies to earn 10mil the 1st week. Theres so many scripts out there and so many movies that get turned down. Cris Carter was just shot down for a Milienium Movie. Plain and simple the Movie BOMBED. No one expected 10mil. Every article states X-Files Bombs at Box office. What will its gross be 20mil. Then someone lost 10mil. I cant believe the studio is happy about the 10mil like you say, come on.

Ultimate Weapon
07-31-2008, 02:46 PM
I agree it's open to interpretation, but our real world understanding of homosexuality makes this unlikely. We're told directly the two men legally married. Gay men are men. They are attracted to other men. The likelihood that Franz wants to be a woman or that Janke wants to be with a woman are vanishingly remote. This interpretation would require us to accept an alternative sexuality for both characters, and that's not something the film gives us.

To be honest, I think what's probably really happening is that Chris Carter just made the characters gay so the audience was less likely to figure out what's happening before Mulder and Scully do, and as a result didn't think through the implications. But you're right that the lack of explanations leaves this part of the story open to multiple interpretations. I feel there should have been an explicit connection between the surgery and the female victims one way or another.

I see your point. The Russian men are homosexual and neither is referred to as transsexual which could imply a possible desire to become a woman thus making the interpretation that I offered a stronger possibility. I agree that the connection between the surgery and the reason for the abductees being women should have been defined. I know Carter likes to leave things open, but I don't think explaining that connection would have given too much to the audience and in fact it actually just seems to be a loose end more than anything as you suggest.


I haven't seen the final seasons in a while, but my understanding is that the CSM reveals the alien colonization date is December 22, 2012 (the end of the Mayan calendar). There may have been implications the super solders were devised as a defense against the invasion as well. So the first film was "resolved" in seasons six and seven in terms of the Conspiracy and the immediate alien presence on Earth.


Exactly! The human conspirators in the form of the syndicate (CSM's guys) were all wiped out by the alien rebels, who also were responsible for stopping the initial alien colonization plans. The whole super soldier arc was kept pretty cryptic and Mulder never actually divulged what he discovered about the Dec 22, 2012 plans if I remember correctly. So yeah, that entire arc seems the next logical place to pick up although I never felt it was a s compelling an arc as the original colonization story. There's also the connection with William and the downed spacecraft off the cost of Africa that could come into play again with the super soldier arc. There is definitely still room for another strong entry into the series - perhaps even two if done well enough.

barbelith
07-31-2008, 06:33 PM
Your funny. Buisness. Why would a studio want to go and give the go ahead for another movie? The Studios want to make profit. The 1st film opened to 30mil and grossed 83 mil. You dont make movies to earn 10mil the 1st week.

I usually only pay attention to business arguments from people who know how to spell, but let's run with it. Do you have any idea how many movies don't make $10 million the first week? Blockbusters are not the norm in Hollywood and I Want to Believe was never intended to be one. Only a fool budgets $30 million for a blockbuster.

Films that make a third of their budget back opening weekend are generally considered a success, because the typical box office matrix indicates they'll recoup most or all of their expenses theatrically, especially once overseas sales are taken into consideration. I Want to Believe also had a tiny marketing budget, which mitigates against any silly claims the studio had blockbuster expectations and again means it has a very small hurdle to climb to break even.

Then we get to home video, where The X-Files has proven so lucrative it's been released on DVD in three different formats (and some episodes have been released on DVD in five different formats). Anyone who thinks the two films won't be hits on DVD and Blu-ray when they come out simply hasn't been paying attention. As far as the bean counters are concerned, the numbers for I Want to Believe will clock in much higher than its $30 million budget across theatrical and home video over the next year.

Bingo. Successful project. Even if all those prospects are "disappointing" and ultimately generate $40 million across all streams, that's still a $10 million profit. Not a bad line item on the FOX spreadsheet. I assume you're rolling in dough since you turn up your nose.


Theres so many scripts out there and so many movies that get turned down.

Yep. Which means studios generally believe in the ones that don't. Did you know FOX approached Chris Carter to ask for this one? It was a rush job to help them through the writers' strike but they never would have done it if they weren't convinced the project would ultimately make money. And of course it will, just not in the way armchair quarterbacks are conditioned to expect through their limited exposure to AICN and Entertainment Weekly.


Cris Carter was just shot down for a Milienium Movie.

Yep. And for obvious reasons. It's not a strong presence on home video. It isn't likely to recoup a significant portion of its budget theatrically. It has no international profile, which means foreign ticket sales and video licenses would be nil. All revenue streams you overlook in your quest for schadenfreude. Of course those in the industry understand differently, which is why George Lucas is sitting on a pile of money that has nothing to do with box office returns.

A word of advice - stop commenting on things you clearly know nothing about. It only makes you look foolish.

EVILFACE
07-31-2008, 07:39 PM
barbelith is really going to town trying to defend this subpar movie. Even if it makes 35 mil world wide, it it still a dud.

tomandshell
07-31-2008, 08:25 PM
Space Chimps opened to $7,181,374 with a budget of $37 million, so it's much more of a flop than X-Files.

Fox is certainly more upset about spending $60 to make Meet Dave, a film with twice the budget of X-Files that had half the opening weekend. An even bigger disaster.

EVILFACE
07-31-2008, 08:31 PM
Yea, but Space Chimps has made 18mil and still has the world to go and opened against Dark Knight.

X-Files I take it had a vastly larger fanbase, opened against Step Brothers and prolly will get outgrossed by Chimps.

As for Dave, Murphy in anything other than Shrek is epic fail. Anytime I hear his voice I think of Donkey and not Axle Foley or even Gumby. What does that tell ya?

tomandshell
07-31-2008, 08:43 PM
I think that most of the people that were going to see X-Files saw it opening weekend, and it will now quickly drop from the top ten altogether. There just isn't enough of an audience out there.

Serenity was another TV to film project with a cult following behind it that grossed $10,086,680 on its way to a total of $25,514,517 towards a budget of $39. X-Files 2 earned $10,021,753, a slightly weaker opening but with a 25% lower budget. Neither will go down in the history books as hit films, but rather as box office disappointments that put the final nail in the franchise coffin.

MaulFan
07-31-2008, 08:46 PM
Thing is, this movie is a see it once and then wait for DVD film, it's not so grand or epic you want to see it again, and I'm sure many people will be going around telling friends not to waste gas and money going to the theater and just wait for DVD. This will be a successful home video release, but it is not the type of film to do well in theaters, it's a glorified episode of the series. Too much is going against it for the theater, bad economy, high expectations after the long hiatus of the show.

Spyda
08-01-2008, 02:49 AM
i went and seen this movie last weekend and i gotta say i was a bit dissapointed, there was nothing wrong with it, but it just could have been so much better. after like 5 years sice X-file die i was expecting a big movie with some "WOW FACTOR" but it just felt like i was watching another episode

barbelith
08-01-2008, 05:22 AM
barbelith is really going to town trying to defend this subpar movie.

You seem very confused. I don't see a post anywhere claiming it's a modern classic.

barbelith
08-01-2008, 05:27 AM
Serenity was another TV to film project with a cult following behind it that grossed $10,086,680 on its way to a total of $25,514,517 towards a budget of $39. X-Files 2 earned $10,021,753, a slightly weaker opening but with a 25% lower budget. Neither will go down in the history books as hit films, but rather as box office disappointments that put the final nail in the franchise coffin.

Except the two have vastly different business models. Universal could only judge Serenity as a standalone film as FOX holds the rights to Firefly and that series' DVD sales. It also had no international profile to speak of. Whereas with I Want to Believe the situation is quite different because FOX will have the benefit of better international ticket sales and a boost to the back catalog on home video. Don't doubt the financial miracle of vertical integration. ;)

YoNoSe
08-01-2008, 05:36 AM
You seem very confused. I don't see a post anywhere claiming it's a modern classic.

Don't you know? Box office = quality.
Beware, the brick wall talks back here.

Buttmunch
08-01-2008, 09:22 AM
I finally saw this last night. It was a good film, but just not a good X-files film. I felt the script could have taken Mulder and Scully out and replaced them with just two other people and the film would have been pretty much the same. There was hardly any supernatural phenomenon in it, which is something you come to expect from the X-files. I mean a pyschic guy isn't that abnormal anymore :rolleyes:

I think the problem is they dumbed down this story so much that people that were not fans of the show could watch it an understand it. The first film really only made sense to the fans that followed the show. My Dad and Grandma who didn't watch the show, enjoyed this much more than I did. So it looks like this film has the exact opposite effect the first film did.

NASEDO
08-03-2008, 12:29 PM
Week 2 Box Office - (X-files 2) - 3.4mil with a total 17mil.

Its a made for TV movie and it Bombed. Every article you read states the same. As far as Serenity, thats going to go down as a cult classic. And I dont see X-files 2 being a big DVD hit. Of course the movie wasn't expected to be a blockbuster, but I didn't even think it would flop like this. Its hard to believe FOX its jumping up and down about the movie making 10mil. The Studios dont want to break even, the want to make money. Why give a greenlight to another X-files movie. If another film is made I see going on TV or direct to DVD.

barbelith
08-05-2008, 02:58 PM
Its a made for TV movie and it Bombed.

I Want to Believe has recouped its budget and is currently generating profit. After two weeks. I win. You lose.

http://the-numbers.com/movies/2008/XFIL2.php

Add to that tally the rest of the theatrical run and its home video sales, where despite your silly claims it will do quite well (The X-Files is a considerable success for FOX on home video). A financial victory for the FOX bean counters. You can go ahead and pencil in The X-Files 3 for 2012.

Not to worry, I don't expect you to admit you didn't know what you were talking about even when the facts are staring you in the face. ;)

RJMacReady16
08-06-2008, 09:19 AM
I Want to Believe has recouped its budget and is currently generating profit. After two weeks. I win. You lose.

http://the-numbers.com/movies/2008/XFIL2.php

Add to that tally the rest of the theatrical run and its home video sales, where despite your silly claims it will do quite well (The X-Files is a considerable success for FOX on home video). A financial victory for the FOX bean counters. You can go ahead and pencil in The X-Files 3 for 2012.

Not to worry, I don't expect you to admit you didn't know what you were talking about even when the facts are staring you in the face. ;)

Are you David Duchovony?

NASEDO
08-06-2008, 03:43 PM
Wow! Jump for Joy! X-files made 5mil. profit, what a financial success! Hollywood is saved, you're sure trying hard. How about google "X-files Bombs", and do some reading.

barbelith
08-06-2008, 04:59 PM
X-files made 5mil. profit

In two weeks. It's still in theaters around the world, which means the profit will keep racking up for the next few months. Add to that the profit from home video sales this winter and it's a win. Are you even out of high school? Because you don't seem to have the faintest clue about how this works.

I like how you sneer at $5 million in profit. What idiot would turn that down even if that was all it ended up making?


How about google "X-files Bombs", and do some reading.

I don't need to put any effort into seeing what morons on the Internet wrongly think about a business play. I get that in this thread free every time you post. You were wrong. You lose. It's time to stop digging. Especially in public; how embarrassing for you.

NASEDO
08-06-2008, 05:11 PM
X-files Bombed, and once you have to attack someone, that usually means you lost the argument. Your just a hard headed fool. I feel sorry if your married. Going around giving orders, fighting about nothing. So Mr. Businessman what do you do for a living? Backup your expert business macho-ism with some reality. People like you make me laugh. Everyone's wrong except you, all the writers are dummies. So tell us more about you. You must be soooo successful.

barbelith
08-06-2008, 05:20 PM
X-files Bombed

If by "bombed" you mean made more than $5 million profit in two weeks and is on track to make even more through the rest of its theatrical run and home video release, then I suppose FOX executives are hoping and praying that every project they ever tackle bombs. I'm sure they're crying all the way to the bank. :rotfl


and once you have to attack someone, that usually means you lost the argument

Pointing out that you literally don't know what you're talking about is not an attack. It's a statement of fact. You don't know what you're talking about, and it makes you look like a moron. Sorry.

There's no shame in admitting you were wrong and don't understand the business side of film. Digging a deeper hole even when reality is staring you in the face, on the other hand...

tomandshell
08-06-2008, 05:27 PM
Hellboy II has dropped out of the top ten after 26 days and still needs to make another $13 million domestically before making back its budget. Nobody is calling that a bomb, yet X-Files 2 is a more profitable movie at this point.

NASEDO
08-06-2008, 05:56 PM
Ok Barlieth, you forgot to answer what you do for living, I'm just curious. You put yourself on that pedestal, so let us have it. Dont hide from the question, and it is funny how serious you are. :joy

barbelith
08-06-2008, 06:07 PM
Ok Barlieth, you forgot to answer what you do for living, I'm just curious.

And the relevance of this to you still being wrong is what? :rolleyes:

NASEDO
08-06-2008, 06:16 PM
That you wrong. :duh

barbelith
08-06-2008, 06:41 PM
That you wrong. :duh

Please explain how what I do for a living affects the international box office for I Want to Believe. Feel free to use diagrams.

NASEDO
08-06-2008, 07:09 PM
Please explain how what I do for a living affects the international box office for I Want to Believe. Feel free to use diagrams.

Barelith have you ever heard this song, "Barblith you know I got your number"
anyway thats what I thought. I'll have a #2 with a large coke I guess.:banana

barbelith
08-07-2008, 03:18 AM
Let's run with this for a moment.

If I am a waiter, does that change The X-Files' box office?
If I am a director, does that change The X-Files' box office?
If I am a surgeon, does that change The X-Files' box office?
If I am a professor, does that change The X-Files' box office?
If I am a scuba instructor, does that change The X-Files' box office?
If I am a taxi driver, does that change The X-Files' box office?
If I am a janitor, does that change The X-Files' box office?
If I am a stock broker, does that change The X-Files' box office?
If I am a producer, does that change The X-Files' box office?
If I am a veterinarian, does that change The X-Files' box office?

The answer of course is no. Nothing changes The X-Files' box office except the daily sale of even more tickets. The movie is already profitable to the tune of millions of dollars. Why do you find it so difficult to admit you were wrong?

Kuzeh
08-21-2008, 09:20 AM
So,
I finally saw X-Files 2, it took me this long because my wife and I started watching the 9 seasons last year and literally finished watching the last episode an hour before going to the movie theater, ha ha ha.

Anyway, personally I liked this movie, a LOT! it was a very dark thriller with subtle paranormal undertones, very rough, very X-Files.
I think the fact that we watched all the series recently helped it work for us.
I think that if they can do a movie like this every now and then, it would be awesome. Of course everybody is waiting for a 2012 one, but that would have to be a big budget one...

With all that, there were a few things I didn't like that much about the movie.




First, this case, doesn't justify the FBI pardoning Mulder...specially after seeing how bad they wanted him to go down, but, in the end, it works, when you consider he helped bring down a group of crazy doctors.

Second, the fact that Mulder and Scully aren't FBI agents, it felt a little weird, seeing them as civilians without their guns and flashlights...nothing major

Finally, the lack of references to Doggett, Reyes and Gibson...what happened there?

Other than that, it was great to see the amazing chemistry between Anderson and Duchovny, and it was great to see Skinner back!
Great movie, and blends perfectly IMO!

Kuzeh
08-26-2008, 11:02 AM
I guess I was 4 weeks late...nobody cares about this movie anymore...
:rotfl

UTtoyfan
08-26-2008, 12:03 PM
I guess I was 4 weeks late...nobody cares about this movie anymore...
:rotfl

It seems like it. I haven't had a chance to see it, and now none of the theaters near me are even showing it anymore.:monkey4

I'll be waiting for the Blu-ray now.

Kuzeh
08-27-2008, 09:58 AM
I hear you, we almost missed it, it was the last day playing at our theater...

CelticPredator
08-27-2008, 03:26 PM
Be thankful.....

MaulFan
12-01-2008, 02:04 PM
Well, I know with Iron Man and Hulk and Indy hitting DVD recently and TDK next week this one's slipping under the radar, but it comes out tomorrow and I'm looking forward to picking it up. Not a great movie, but a great X-File's story.

Chapter 2099
12-01-2008, 02:07 PM
Well, I know with Iron Man and Hulk and Indy hitting DVD recently and TDK next week this one's slipping under the radar, but it comes out tomorrow and I'm looking forward to picking it up. Not a great movie, but a great X-File's story.

And so am I!!! :rock

I even found a Blu-Ray two pack ('Fight the Future' and 'I Want to Believe') that I'm thinking of getting.

RJMacReady16
12-01-2008, 03:03 PM
I love the X-Files but the more I hear about this movie the more boring it sounds.

I thought they were going to do a stand-alone "monster story"? Any related elements in this film?

tomandshell
12-01-2008, 03:09 PM
Will be seeing it for first time this week on Blu-ray. My expectations are low based on what I've heard from those who saw it in theaters and warned me away.

Darth Caedus
12-01-2008, 03:10 PM
Will be seeing it for first time this week on Blu-ray. My expectations are low based on what I've heard from those who saw it in theaters and warned me away.

Yep, the people that said it was a longer, more boring version of an episode kept me away. Might netflix it and give it a go.

MaulFan
12-01-2008, 04:15 PM
I didn't find it boring. What I found it to be was an extended series episode, it just didn't quite have the pacing you'd expect from a movie, even the other X-Files movie felt like a movie, but this could have passed for a regular tv series episode. If you just enjoy it as a new story about the X-Files, I think you'll like it, just don't be expecting big movie qualities or some grand return after years of silence.

Kabukiman
12-01-2008, 05:27 PM
I passed on the theater showing as well. I feel kinda ashamed 'cause I love the X-Files. :monkey2

I'll be picking up the Blu Ray 2 pack w/ Fight the Future.

YoNoSe
12-01-2008, 05:55 PM
I didn't find it boring. What I found it to be was an extended series episode, it just didn't quite have the pacing you'd expect from a movie, even the other X-Files movie felt like a movie, but this could have passed for a regular tv series episode. If you just enjoy it as a new story about the X-Files, I think you'll like it, just don't be expecting big movie qualities or some grand return after years of silence.

:lecture
Agreed. Though I would add that I found the resolution of the case to be beyond lackluster.
This is definitely a movie that will play better in your living room than it did on a movie screen. My theater was absolutely silent the entire time, which was helpful since it seems like everyone is whispering all of their lines.

NASEDO
12-01-2008, 06:16 PM
Well I'm a big X files fan, have all the SS figures and DVD's, but thinking about this one. Of course it will be cheaper in a month. Probably really cheap. But I hear a X-files 3 is possible depending on the DVD sales. So I might have to get it. Maybe pass on Blu-ray since the effects will most likely be low. But passing on Blu-Ray is getting harder and Harder.

CelticPredator
12-01-2008, 06:19 PM
Rent it first. Seriously....

barbelith
12-01-2008, 11:14 PM
Maybe pass on Blu-ray since the effects will most likely be low.

There's some gorgeous snowy scenery that'll look great on BD. Plus you can get the double pack pretty cheap online. It's a great story if you can appreciate Mulder and Scully as 3D characters but if you're looking for monsters or action ... it's not here.

tomandshell
12-01-2008, 11:50 PM
I ordered the Blu-ray two pack and expected it to ship today from Amazon, but for some reason they didn't get it out. So it looks like it won't be here in time for Wednesday Movie Night.

costumeball
12-02-2008, 10:45 AM
I thought it was pretty bad.

But I didn't like the end of the series and how they hooked Mulder and Scully up together. Kind of killed the interesting dynamic of their relationship for me.

Plus, there were no interesting characters introduced, and almost no familiar faces.

barbelith
12-02-2008, 02:59 PM
But I didn't like the end of the series and how they hooked Mulder and Scully up together. Kind of killed the interesting dynamic of their relationship for me.

I thought they hooked up several seasons earlier ... which makes sense considering Mulder was William's father! I always thought the interesting thing wasn't will they or won't they (because they were clearly in love as early as the second season), but rather why they deliberately kept their distance. I know it's not to everyone's taste but I think the second film was a logical conclusion to their story and in my opinion the only satisfying one. I'm talking about their personal dynamic and not "story" in terms of aliens etc.


Plus, there were no interesting characters introduced, and almost no familiar faces.

I agree with this. I would have liked to have seen Doggett and Reyes, although I thought Amanda Peet and Billy Connolly had interesting things going on.

Basically I think people hate the movie because it wasn't what they expected. Shown several weeks into a random season nobody would be complaining about it. But make it a movie a few years after the show is over and it just doesn't have that Bang! factor. Fair enough, although I prefer to evaluate the story on its own terms. Imagine they did "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" or "Humbug" as a movie ... fans would be complaining about those too!

Chapter 2099
12-02-2008, 03:02 PM
There's some gorgeous snowy scenery that'll look great on BD. Plus you can get the double pack pretty cheap online. It's a great story if you can appreciate Mulder and Scully as 3D characters but if you're looking for monsters or action ... it's not here.

Where's the cheapest you found?

barbelith
12-02-2008, 03:30 PM
Where's the cheapest you found?

I think it's $39.99 on Amazon right now, which works out to $20 per movie and a steal for BD. I got mine about $10 less in a Black Friday sale.

costumeball
12-02-2008, 07:38 PM
I thought they hooked up several seasons earlier ... which makes sense considering Mulder was William's father!

Anything post Season 6, I consider "the end of the series". ;)


I always thought the interesting thing wasn't will they or won't they (because they were clearly in love as early as the second season), but rather why they deliberately kept their distance.

I guess that's just subject to interpretation. For me it was a very deep friendship, but a platonic thing that was forced into something else.


I know it's not to everyone's taste but I think the second film was a logical conclusion to their story and in my opinion the only satisfying one. I'm talking about their personal dynamic and not "story" in terms of aliens etc.

I suppose, but since I hated that idea for those characters in general, I hoped it wouldn't be the focus of the movie like it was.


I agree with this. I would have liked to have seen Doggett and Reyes, although I thought Amanda Peet and Billy Connolly had interesting things going on.

I like both of those actors generally, but was really bored by them in this movie and felt they were pretty much wasted.

Doggett and Reyes would have been awesome to see. I liked the "investigation"/non-mythology episodes from Season 8 a lot.

Mitch Pileggi should've just stayed home for all the good use they put him to.


Basically I think people hate the movie because it wasn't what they expected. Shown several weeks into a random season nobody would be complaining about it. But make it a movie a few years after the show is over and it just doesn't have that Bang! factor. Fair enough, although I prefer to evaluate the story on its own terms. Imagine they did "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" or "Humbug" as a movie ... fans would be complaining about those too!

No, I had fairly low expectations already, and I didn't like the Mulder/Scully/baby plot in the series either, so no, I wouldn't have liked this as an episode either.

Watching this movie, I wonder if Chris Carter even understands why the X-Files was so appealing to begin with, or if he's totally out of touch by this point.

Chapter 2099
12-02-2008, 10:20 PM
I just picked up "Fight the Future" for $10 sealed. This DVD is quite the difficult one to get a hold of brand new and at a decent price. Ebay prices are ridiculous on it. ($20 + shipping and up.) Have anyone of you noticed this? All of the major retailers (Amazon, Best Buy, Circuit City, etc.) are sold out and have been for a while (as in 6 + months.)

I've seen it, but never owned it and since I have all of the seasons, I figured I needed to show my support. I plan on getting the 3-disc set of "I Want to Believe" this weekend. (The "behind the scenes" footage and featurettes are a must for me on this one.)

barbelith
12-02-2008, 10:55 PM
Watching this movie, I wonder if Chris Carter even understands why the X-Files was so appealing to begin with, or if he's totally out of touch by this point.

I think he understood, but he also had a story he wanted to tell and didn't really care about pleasing the crowd. There are literally dozens of X-Files along the lines of this movie so really it shouldn't feel like it's coming from left field. We all remember the monsters and aliens but when you go back through the nine seasons there's a surprising number of episodes that just don't fit that stereotype and are slower personal dramas with mild supernatural elements.

However if you don't like the Mulder/Scully romance angle I can appreciate that it might not be your cup of tea.

CelticPredator
12-02-2008, 10:58 PM
I dont mind the romance angle...but he could've picked a better story then what was on screen, and keep it away from Alien stuff. Something kinda spooky, and supernatural.

RJMacReady16
12-02-2008, 11:44 PM
I think he understood, but he also had a story he wanted to tell and didn't really care about pleasing the crowd.

Yeah but wasn't this one billed as "one for the fans" from the beginning?

I still haven't seen it, so I'm reserving judgement...but it isn't sounding good.

Josette
12-03-2008, 04:15 AM
I loved the Mulder/Scully pairing, but the movie was weak. The plot wasn't strong enough for a movie and would have made for a weak episode of the tv series.

Fight the Future, however, rocked. There was just enough Mulder/Scully bits in there (except for the actual kiss they cut out), and it had a stronger story with great action scenes and pacing.

barbelith
12-03-2008, 10:35 AM
Yeah but wasn't this one billed as "one for the fans" from the beginning?

But which fans? The ones who care more about the story of Mulder and Scully or the ones who care more about action and monsters?

MaulFan
12-03-2008, 10:41 AM
I think the concept behind the "this is one for the fans" comment was relative to the story basically being a further tale of Mulder and Scully.

Fight the future was crafted in a way that folks who hadn't followed the series could check it out, enjoy it and become fans, which is what happened with me.

I Want to Believe was made for people who already know about the show and characters, if you know nothing about the X-Files, this movie would probably really suck to watch.

I believe that's what they meant when they said it's for fans, that they're just telling stories, not trying to capture big box offices and increase the size of the fandom like with the first movie.

RJMacReady16
12-03-2008, 10:42 AM
But which fans? The ones who care more about the story of Mulder and Scully or the ones who care more about action and monsters?

Eh, I see your point there. I just always assumed that people were drawn to the X-Files because of the action and monsters, otherwise they'd be watching Law & Order SVU or something.


I loved the Mulder/Scully pairing, but the movie was weak. The plot wasn't strong enough for a movie and would have made for a weak episode of the tv series.

Fight the Future, however, rocked. There was just enough Mulder/Scully bits in there (except for the actual kiss they cut out), and it had a stronger story with great action scenes and pacing.

This is discouraging for me. I was hoping this movie was an apology for Fight the Future.

Josette
12-03-2008, 03:39 PM
Definitely don't want an apology for Fight the Future. I thought it was a great film. And it actually seemed like a film, when IWTB didn't. Even the Mulder/Scully bits weren't enough to keep me interested in it. And this is coming from someone who has seen every episode from the first to the last.

barbelith
12-03-2008, 08:33 PM
Definitely don't want an apology for Fight the Future. I thought it was a great film. And it actually seemed like a film, when IWTB didn't.

I thought it felt like a film but then again I watch a ton of slow indie drama...

tbay
12-05-2008, 12:03 AM
It was great to see Scully and Mulder and a cameo by one of my favorites, but I was disappointed by the film overall (I personally love the alien mytho). Scully was still hot though :D

BTW, I'm organizing a commission to make headsculpts of The Lone Gunmen, Skinner, Scully and Mulder. Let me know if you're interested or visit the thread in general collectibles!

MaulFan
12-05-2008, 04:43 AM
Scully was still hot though :D

She's like a fine wine, she only gets better with age. I recently watched season 1 again, I find her unappealing in the early years of the show, as it went on she seemed more beautiful.

Josette
12-05-2008, 06:04 AM
I thought she looked the most beautiful in seasons 4-6. Also in Fight the Future.

She did get prettier with age.

Morbach
12-05-2008, 08:41 AM
I was going to rent this yesterday and saw that my blockbuster released their dk dvds for sale early,so I grabbed dk and left and forgot about this movie :lol

RJMacReady16
12-05-2008, 09:56 AM
I was going to rent this yesterday and saw that my blockbuster released their dk dvds for sale early,so I grabbed dk and left and forgot about this movie :lol

WHAT!? :monkey5:monkey5

tomandshell
12-05-2008, 10:37 AM
I finally got a chance to watch the movie and I seem to be in the minority that enjoyed it.

Now, I think I might have been let down had I seen this in theaters as a "summer movie," but with all the snow it felt like a good movie for December. I had a good sense of what the mood and pace of the film was going to be like from fairly early on and I was comfortable with it. It really did feel to me like a non-mythology episode of the show, and while very different from the first film, it still felt very much like the X-Files to me. Not like some of my very favorite episodes, but I could see this fitting in alongside some of the stand alone episodes that they did. (I just always liked the mythology shows better.)

Kabukiman
12-05-2008, 12:12 PM
Entire series, hella cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UZDO5I/ref=xs_gb_A15A3WYFUPWHM4?pf_rd_p=441937901&pf_rd_s=right-1&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_i=20&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0FJJRN6XNWJYH84W8AWJ

Ultimate Weapon
12-05-2008, 12:26 PM
I was wondering if this thread would pop back up with the DVD release the other night. :)

So I saw this movie over the summer and enjoyed it well enough. I posted my comments after seeing the film earlier in this thread. Of course I went out and picked up the DVD a couple of days ago when it was released. I have to say that after watching it two or three more times now, it really has grown on me a lot more. I enjoyed it to begin with, but was expecting something a bit more when I saw it in the theater.

I agree with tomandshell, this does feel much more like a December movie than a summer blockbuster event, and his assessment on viewing the film is pretty much where I am with it right now. I've really enjoyed it a lot more on repeat viewings and am happy to have it on DVD.

Jesseawilson
12-06-2008, 10:20 AM
Sucked, who gives a crap about a psychic. The first one was soooooo much better. The creepy two headed dog and the headless man was really stupid IMHO.

Morbach
12-08-2008, 08:17 AM
WHAT!? :monkey5:monkey5

yeah,I'm dead serious:lol:lol I'm going to see about renting it this week.

RJMacReady16
12-08-2008, 10:13 AM
Sucked, who gives a crap about a psychic. The first one was soooooo much better. The creepy two headed dog and the headless man was really stupid IMHO.

:rotfl

Yeah I finally saw it, and this is pretty much my sentiment, and it's sad that the first movie was better, because it was pretty bad on it's own.

What a horrible, horrible addition to what used to be the wonderful world of X-Files. Why did the FBI need Mulder again? To help them believe?

And were they trying to be funny with the picture of Bush set to the X-Files music? What the hell was that?

Thank God this bombed. Now Chris Carter won't get the chance to "George Lucas" the X-Files.

barbelith
12-08-2008, 10:51 AM
What a horrible, horrible addition to what used to be the wonderful world of X-Files.

Around a fifth of the original episodes were like this; that's partly where Millennium came from, because these smaller "serial killer with slight supernatural elements" worked so well. It might not be to your taste but it's perfectly in fitting with the rest of the canon. Or do you consider things like Paper Hearts horrible additions as well? There are several "types" of X-Files episode that viewers adored in the series but would likely come in for a savaging as standalone films today. War of the Coprophages anyone?


Why did the FBI need Mulder again?

They needed Mulder to determine whether Father Joe was a fraud or someone who could actually help them recover a missing FBI agent. Actually it's pretty strongly implied they didn't call him in for that - that the new regime at the FBI didn't care about Mulder being a fugitive anymore and he was really just called in because Agent Whitney is a believer and wants to meet him.


Thank God this bombed.

Actually it didn't. It more than doubled its budget and the home video release is going to be almost pure profit - and The X-Files does very well on home video as evidenced by the four separate times it's been released in various iterations (alongside multiple collection packs). We are almost certain to see The X-Files 3 ... presumably in 2012 when the aliens arrive.

NASEDO
12-08-2008, 11:52 AM
I dont think the DVD sales are to good. They ranked in the 200's as top sales at Amazon. I dont think it even broke the 100 best selling DVDs last week, which is strange for a new release. I heard these DVD sales would be the "selling" point for a 3rd film, but it dosen't look good.

RJMacReady16
12-08-2008, 12:22 PM
Around a fifth of the original episodes were like this; that's partly where Millennium came from, because these smaller "serial killer with slight supernatural elements" worked so well. It might not be to your taste but it's perfectly in fitting with the rest of the canon. Or do you consider things like Paper Hearts horrible additions as well? There are several "types" of X-Files episode that viewers adored in the series but would likely come in for a savaging as standalone films today. War of the Coprophages


No, I understand that this was similar to many of the episodes, and I'm actually a fan of Millennium as well, and had this been an episode it would've been an averagely enjoyable hour of television.

However, I simply expect more from a movie. In the plus column though, I was very happy to see them shy entirely away from government conspiracies and such, but overall it felt really weak.

I was under the impression this bombed... :monkey1 Guess we may be seeing more after all---which I suppose isn't all bad, as now that he's gotten this type of story out of his system we could see something bigger and badder on the next go round.

barbelith
12-08-2008, 01:52 PM
I dont think the DVD sales are to good.

It's an evergreen title if all the other myriad X-Files releases are any indication. I don't think anyone expects it to keep pace with the seasonal blockbusters. It'll probably be a steady but unremarkable seller like the rest of them. Which believe it or not is what helps keep studios alive.


I heard these DVD sales would be the "selling" point for a 3rd film, but it dosen't look good.

Actually FOX already has a "selling point" to make a third film; the international release of this one doubled its budget. They're in the business to make money and I Want to Believe was a solid if unremarkable earner. I think fans sometimes miss the business side of things. FOX isn't expecting every film to be a blockbuster - certainly not one that cost as little as this one did and had the same negligible ad budget. They made tens of millions of dollars on it. The only people who see that as a "bomb" are people who don't understand how the system works.

However I will say (typical of FOX) the release was mismanaged. This should never have been released near The Dark Knight. It's a cerebral film for a winter audience and would have done better if it had come out in the last few weeks.


However, I simply expect more from a movie.

Fair enough.


Guess we may be seeing more after all---which I suppose isn't all bad, as now that he's gotten this type of story out of his system we could see something bigger and badder on the next go round.

I would expect to see a similar budget, unfortunately. There doesn't seem to be an audience for a $100 million X-Files film but there's clearly an audience for a $25 million one. If we get a third it'll probably be a small scale, isolated response to the 2012 invasion rather than something on the scale of Fight the Future. Not ideal but better than nothing!

And even if nothing comes to pass, I'm glad we got this one. It's much better thematic closure for the series and the characters than The End.