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IrishJedi

12-31-2007, 12:13 PM

We need a thread devoted to the discussion of this film!

On 5.22.2008 the greatest Action-Adventure hero of all time returns!

:rock :rock :rock

Or, "The man with the hat is back. And this time he's bringing his... son."

:lol

IrishJedi

12-31-2007, 12:27 PM

The graphic novel adaptation cover was in the latest issue of PREVIEWS. Shia with a sword:

http://www.throwmetheidol.com/products/books/books_2008/KotCS%20comic.jpg

Bardoon

12-31-2007, 12:30 PM

I wonder how Shia LeDoof will do in this flick....not really a fan of him.

IrishJedi

12-31-2007, 12:31 PM

I thought he was great in "Disturbia" and might actually be the best thing about "Transformers" (human wise).

IrishJedi

12-31-2007, 01:11 PM

I'll be kind and stick this in here (or until we eventually created a single thread for weird INDY promo stuff):

Dr Pepper drinkers, get ready:

http://www.throwmetheidol.com/products/dr-pepper/presskit_drpepper_IJ4_1.JPG

http://www.throwmetheidol.com/products/dr-pepper/presskit_drpepper_IJ4_2.JPG

http://www.throwmetheidol.com/products/dr-pepper/presskit_drpepper_IJ4_3.JPG

The Josh

12-31-2007, 01:13 PM

The one thing I like so far about the film is they didn't try and set it just a few short years after the last one. They realized we're a tad smarter than that and went with it years ahead. Now, in regards to Shia I think he did a decent job in Transformers.

Amazon has the book on sale right now and I'm tempted to order but I think I'll hold off right now.

IrishJedi

12-31-2007, 01:14 PM

The one thing I like so far about the film is they didn't try and set it just a few short years after the last one. They realized we're a tad smarter than that and went with it years ahead.

Yeah, it's set in 1957... 21 years after RAIDERS. Which is perfect, I think.

Captain Faramir

12-31-2007, 01:17 PM

I thought he was great in "Disturbia" and might actually be the best thing about "Transformers" (human wise).

My problem is that he's the same in every movie--the same in Transformers as in Disturbia as in Even Stevens as in everything else--he just doesn't have a versatile acting base from which he can draw, and so he can't expand his characters beyond his own personality. That's one of the most central elements of good acting--versatility. I hope he can break out of his shell in this new movie, or else it's just going to inhibit him. Everything he's done so far has been pretty juvenile as far as acting goes, and I'm not a fan of his at all. He's too goofy and shallow. Maybe some time with Ford will help him add some depth to his style. :cool:

The Josh

12-31-2007, 01:24 PM

Yeah, it's set in 1957... 21 years after RAIDERS. Which is perfect, I think.

Totally perfect indeed.

Cap as far as Shia goes he's a young actor. He has to have time to grow and chances to do so. Plus he's working with Ford who I think will work with him to make him a better actor.

IrishJedi

12-31-2007, 01:27 PM

You see, if he plays the same exact character he did in "Disturbia" and "Transformers" he'd make the perfect son of Indy, imho. He even has some of the facial expressions and mannerisms down without being an exact clone ala River Phoenix (who was terrific as Young Indy in "Last Crusade").

The Josh

12-31-2007, 01:29 PM

Right! Indy is kind of a semi-goof as it is especially when things get going wacky. Shia seems to do that quite easily so in the end it could work quite well.

Collector Freak

12-31-2007, 01:31 PM

He dies in the end.

IrishJedi

12-31-2007, 01:54 PM

He dies in the end.

Who? Indy or Mutt? If you say Indy, that's always something I've wondered as well (even though it would shock/disappoint many). That Lucas decided to remove Old Indy from the "Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" at least raises some eyebrows to this point.

We'll see...

The Josh

12-31-2007, 01:58 PM

He dies in the end.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3697/huhimage2xb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

screamingmetal

12-31-2007, 02:04 PM

My problem is that he's the same in every movie--the same in Transformers as in Disturbia as in Even Stevens as in everything else--he just doesn't have a versatile acting base from which he can draw, and so he can't expand his characters beyond his own personality. That's one of the most central elements of good acting--versatility. I hope he can break out of his shell in this new movie, or else it's just going to inhibit him. Everything he's done so far has been pretty juvenile as far as acting goes, and I'm not a fan of his at all. He's too goofy and shallow. Maybe some time with Ford will help him add some depth to his style. :cool:

That's EXACTLY how I feel about him. He always plays himself and I can't stand who he portrays. Labeouf's personality isn't anything like Ford to me, Harrison always acts laid back and cool unless he's in the middle of action, Labeouf mostly acts as a stuck up, cocky nerd.
I did like Disturbia, but that's the only thing I think his personality has worked in due to the character's backstory of his father just dieing.
I hope he does improve for the sake of the Indiana Jones saga.

ProgMatinee

12-31-2007, 02:40 PM

I heard the ending is that they discover Little Richard is an alien spy but allow him to live on earth as the great ambassador to Venuvians.

ProgMatinee

12-31-2007, 02:42 PM

Maybe some time with Ford will help him add some depth to his style. :cool:

LOL. Is that sarcasm, because HF is practically the same in every movie? :lol

The Josh

12-31-2007, 02:44 PM

I heard the ending is that they discover Little Richard is an alien spy but allow him to live on earth as the great ambassador to Venuvians.

Guess I don't need to go see it now. Thnx!! :p :lol

IrishJedi

12-31-2007, 02:46 PM

That explains the lack of "Crystal Skull" specific collectibles, so far. Little Richard won't allow his likeness to be used. :monkey1

ProgMatinee

12-31-2007, 02:48 PM

That explains the lack of "Crystal Skull" specific collectibles, so far. Little Richard won't allow his likeness to be used. :monkey1

Which likeness?

IrishJedi

12-31-2007, 02:49 PM

Which likeness?

:lol:lol:lol

The Josh

12-31-2007, 02:49 PM

Which likeness?

Good point :lol

DarkArtist81

12-31-2007, 02:54 PM

That explains the lack of "Crystal Skull" specific collectibles, so far. Little Richard won't allow his likeness to be used. :monkey1

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/music/images/little_richard150x150.jpg

:lol:rotfl:lol:rotfl

IrishJedi

01-02-2008, 07:56 AM

Tons of stuff in the new VANITY FAIR, including lengthy interviews with Lucas and Spielberg that can be read online: http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/02/indianajones200802

Oh, and this spoiler pic (the setting is the spoiler):

http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2008/02/cuar02w_indianajones0802.jpg

IrishJedi

01-02-2008, 08:10 AM

Here's a very interesting piece from the main VF article regarding the MacGuffin of the film (the Crystal Skull, of course) (SPOILERS):

The first building block of any Indiana Jones movie, according to Lucas, is something called the MacGuffin. The term, popularized by Alfred Hitchcock, refers to an object or goal that kicks the story into action and drives it to the third act. Hitchcock held that the less specific the MacGuffin the better. In his 1959 suspense classic, North by Northwest, the men chasing Cary Grant are after microfilm containing “government secrets”—that’s all the audience learns about why the film’s villains cause the hero so much trouble—and Hitchcock considered that to be a perfect MacGuffin, because it was so wonderfully vague. While Lucas agrees with his predecessor on the importance of the MacGuffin, his conception of the device differs significantly from Hitchcock’s. Rather than seeing it as a gimmick with the function of getting things rolling, Lucas believes that the MacGuffin should be powerful and that the audience should care about it almost as much as the dueling heroes and villains on-screen.

He feels he had an excellent one in Raiders of the Lost Ark. The much-sought-after Ark of the Covenant not only held the Ten Commandments but also functioned as “a radio to God” and possessed enough Old Testament power to smite those who looked on its treasures. If the Nazis were to gain control of it, instead of good old Indy, well, you can imagine the consequences. But a first-rate MacGuffin is hard to find, and Lucas says he was not completely satisfied with those he had for Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (the sacred Shankara Stones, which, for reasons no audience can keep straight, must be retrieved in order to save kidnapped village children from an Indian death cult) and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (the life-giving Holy Grail, which comes in handy when Indy’s dad is dying).

“I’m the one that has to come up with the story, and the MacGuffin, the supernatural object that everyone’s going after … ” Lucas’s voice trails off. He is seated in a favorite chair, its cushions lumpy and dented. “The Ark of the Covenant was perfect. The Shankara Stones were way too esoteric. The Holy Grail was sort of feeble—but, at the same time, we put the father in there to cover for it. I mean, the whole reason it became a dad movie was because I was scared to hell that there wasn’t enough power behind the Holy Grail to carry a movie. So we kept pushing to have it function on some level—and to make it function for a father and a son. To make it that kind of a movie was the big risk and the big challenge, but also the thing that pulled it out of the fire. So, at the end of it, I was like, No more of these, baby. We’re done. I can’t think of anything else. We barely got by on the last one!

“At that point I had kind of retired,” he continues. “I was raising my kids, I was running my companies. The last thing I wanted to do was go off and do another one of these things. And it stayed there for quite a while, until I was doing Young Indiana Jones, and I was actually with Harrison, shooting a little piece for it, and I was up in Wyoming, where he lives, and I came up with this MacGuffin, which was sitting there right in front of me, and I said, ‘Well, why didn’t I ever see this before?’ ”

When Ford and Spielberg both rejected the idea, Lucas dug in. He hired screenwriter after screenwriter to make his MacGuffin the linchpin of a new Indy story. “So this went on for 15 years,” he says. “And finally we got to a point where everybody said, ‘Look, we’re not doing that movie.’ And I said, ‘Well, look, I can’t think of another MacGuffin. This is it. This works. I know this works.’ And then we stopped. I just said, ‘O.K.,’ and that’s about the time I started Star Wars again. But then Harrison was kind of interested. And I said, ‘I won’t do it unless we can have that MacGuffin. Without the MacGuffin, I will not go near this thing.’ ”

Ford can laugh about Lucas’s obstinacy now. “He’s a stubborn sucker,” the actor says, “and he had an idea that he kept pushing into script form, and then they’d run it by me, and I’d usually rebel, and, finally, you know, one script came along that really struck me as being smart, not working too hard to give reference to the other films, but that carried on the stories we had told so far in a logical way. The character was allowed to age, and we found ourselves in a different period of time, and what I read was a great script, so I said, ‘Let’s go, let’s make this one.’ ”

The eventual shooting script bore the name David Koepp, a writer-director whose screenplay credits include War of the Worlds, Spider-Man, and the first two Jurassic Park movies, which were directed by Spielberg and leaned heavily on Lucas’s Industrial Light & Magic special-effects shop. An earlier pass, which Spielberg loved and Lucas didn’t, was written by Frank Darabont, the writer-director of The Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile, and The Mist. I ask Lucas if each version had made use of the prize MacGuffin.

“Mmm-hmmm,” he says. “They’re all the same.”

And then (spoiler warning) Lucas gets a little more (spoiler alert) specific: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull will apparently nudge our hero away from his usual milieu of spooky archaeology and into the realm of (spoiler Code Red) science fiction. “What it is that made it perfect was the fact that the MacGuffin I wanted to use and the idea that Harrison would be 20 years older would fit,” Lucas says. “So that put it in the mid-50s, and the MacGuffin I was looking at was perfect for the mid-50s. I looked around and I said, ‘Well, maybe we shouldn’t do a 30s serial, because now we’re in the 50s. What is the same kind of cheesy-entertainment action movie, what was the secret B movie, of the 50s?’ So instead of doing a 30s Republic serial, we’re doing a B science-fiction movie from the 50s. The ones I’m talking about are, like, The Creature from the Black Lagoon, The Blob, The Thing. So by putting it in that context, it gave me a way of approaching the whole thing.”

As New Age devotees already know, fossilized skulls made of quartz crystal actually do exist. But are they truly, as those who believe in their powers claim, pre-Columbian objects of Mayan or Aztecan origin? And do they really harbor supernatural properties, like the “skull of doom,” supposedly dug up by early-20th-century archaeologist F. A. Mitchell-Hedges? This is a matter of some dispute, right up there with the existence of Big Foot or Atlantis. In the world of Indiana Jones, however, as with the Holy Grail and the Ark, one goes with the legend.

Crystal skulls have already appeared in four Indiana Jones young-adult novels and as part of an Indiana Jones ride at Tokyo’s DisneySea theme park. In an episode of the TV series Stargate SG-1, they had alien origin. In Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, it would seem, based on the above hints, that here, too, the crystal skulls are somehow tied into things, or beings, not of this world. What Lucas says—and he won’t say more—seems to support earlier Internet speculation that the scenes filmed in New Mexico may be set at Area 51, the Nevada military base which, according to conspiracy buffs and the creators of The X-Files, has been the site of U.F.O. and alien research.

No one outside of the filmmakers will know for sure until May 22, but it would be pretty cool if it turns out that Emperor Palpatine had dropped a crystal skull on Earth. Or maybe one was left behind by the skinny dudes from Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Or maybe it’s, like, E.T.’s cell phone. :)

Whatever, Lucas is convinced he won’t please everyone. “I know the critics are going to hate it,” he says. “They already hate it. So there’s nothing we can do about that. They hate the idea that we’re making another one. They’ve already made up their minds.”

At least the legions of Indy geeks will be pleased, right?

“The fans are all upset,” Lucas says. “They’re always going to be upset. ‘Why did he do it like this? And why didn’t he do it like this?’ They write their own movie, and then, if you don’t do their movie, they get upset about it. So you just have to stand by for the bricks and the custard pies, because they’re going to come flying your way.”

The Indy series has succeeded, Lucas believes, largely because of its reliance on well-made stories. “There’s a difference between throwing a puppy on a freeway and watching what happens and constructing a story,” he says. “You don’t just put your main character in jeopardy and then that becomes entertainment. That’s why so many people have failed at this. Even though they may make some money, it doesn’t get to the level that the Indiana Jones films do. They’re a lot more complex than that. They’re like little watches that have a lot of pieces in them.” And if you don’t like the key piece at the center of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull—the MacGuffin—you’ll know who to blame.

occulum

01-02-2008, 08:16 AM

I just cant believe they ripped off Mastodon for the overall concept.... :monkey1

Crystal Skull Lyrics
Artist(Band):Mastodon

Guide a truth
Prevail and ride
Into the black hole
Searching the crystal
Making the veins bleed
The source of consciousness
Alive
Crystalline resonance
Into the black hole
Searching the crystal
Making the veins bleed
A deep breath before the plunge
One million voices
Dispelling
A thousand faces
Disarming
Running thru the darkness
Holding hearts in my eyes
Falling short of gauntlet
Covered in blood-sucking flies
The touch is cold
I tore a path screaming through wind and blood
I will it all
Burning deep in my skull
:D

tomandshell

01-02-2008, 10:22 AM

Cate Blanchett is playing Parker Posey?

:confused:

http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2008/02/cuar03w_indianajones0802.jpg

Darth Caedus

01-02-2008, 10:37 AM

Cate Blanchett is playing Parker Posey?

:confused:

http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2008/02/cuar03w_indianajones0802.jpg

Tons of stuff in the new VANITY FAIR, including lengthy interviews with Lucas and Spielberg that can be read online: http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/02/indianajones200802

Oh, and this spoiler pic (the setting is the spoiler):

http://www.vanityfair.com/images/culture/2008/02/cuar02w_indianajones0802.jpg

I have no problem with either of those women. They are both looking might fine to me :love:love:love

tomandshell

01-02-2008, 12:18 PM

Cate Blanchett looks like she wants to chain me up and hit me with a whip.

:zzwhip

carbo-fation

01-02-2008, 12:45 PM

Cate Blanchett looks like she wants to chain me up and hit me with a whip.

:zzwhip

And you sound like you might actually enjoy it. :D

Darklord Dave

01-02-2008, 01:32 PM

Cate Blanchett looks like she wants to chain me up and hit me with a whip.

:zzwhip

I see nothing to object to...

IrishJedi

01-02-2008, 01:35 PM

Yeah... and she'd have that nice fake Russian accent, too. :naughty

:monkey3

hammy

01-02-2008, 01:43 PM

From what I have read I am looking forward to this movie. Although it seems like Hollywood is running out of new characters.

The Josh

01-02-2008, 03:32 PM

Cate Blanchett looks like she wants to chain me up and hit me with a whip.

:zzwhip

Very nice!

tomandshell

01-15-2008, 10:02 PM

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2492/hrindianajonesandthekindb4.jpg

Darth Caedus

01-15-2008, 10:15 PM

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2492/hrindianajonesandthekindb4.jpg

Doesn't that look like the entrance to the temple in The Last Crusade with the two lions covering the front?

choopie

01-16-2008, 07:19 AM

Doesn't that look like the entrance to the temple in The Last Crusade with the two lions covering the front?

No, it's a Mayan or Aztec-type temple.

Is that Stacy Keach?

IrishJedi

01-16-2008, 07:59 AM

No, it's Ray Winstone.

choopie

01-16-2008, 09:55 AM

No, it's Ray Winstone.

OK, thanks! It kind of looked like Stacy Keach when you looked at the photo real quick. :)

tomandshell

01-16-2008, 11:04 AM

And it looks like Karen Allen is standing in front Ray Winstone in that shot, although you can't see her face. That's a match to the costume we have seen her in. So it looks like Marion gets to this location, wherever it is.

IrishJedi

01-16-2008, 11:05 AM

It's the entrance to the Temple of the Crystal Skull in the 3rd Act of the movie.

Darth Caedus

01-16-2008, 11:18 AM

I really hope Marion has the same sort of spunk she had in the first film. She was the best indy girl and I hope they don't change that.

RoboDad

01-16-2008, 12:52 PM

That latest picture is amazing! I am so pumped now for this movie, I can hardly contain it.

McHavyck

01-30-2008, 03:00 PM

New pic of Indy (sporting a RPG), Marion and the greaser kid...
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p86/chrismac99/indynewsopener.jpg

Estel

01-30-2008, 03:49 PM

Judging by that pic, the giant ants are in the movie after all.....

Batty

01-30-2008, 11:31 PM

Here's a little larger pic.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6619/20080130bgnv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

tomandshell

01-31-2008, 04:03 PM

Here is a picture of a picture showing Cate Blanchett, a sword, and Indy's neck:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/tomandshell/indy.jpg

IrishJedi

02-01-2008, 08:50 AM

Here is a picture of a picture showing Cate Blanchett, a sword, and Indy's neck:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/tomandshell/indy.jpg

That's obviously from the same scene on the first shot that was shown from the movie (remember the first video posted on the official site, a zooming close-up of Indy as he's held by soldiers?). Cool. :rock

McHavyck

02-02-2008, 07:21 PM

Check this out...looks like the Ark could come into play again.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p86/chrismac99/020108_indianajones2.jpg

The Josh

02-02-2008, 07:27 PM

This movie is gonna be just freaking cool! I cannot begin to tell you all how excited I am.

darthviper107

02-02-2008, 07:58 PM

Less than two weeks until the trailer.

Entropy Chicken

02-02-2008, 08:23 PM

This movie is gonna be just freaking cool! I cannot begin to tell you all how excited I am.

I hope you're right, but the talk of aliens and giant ants has me worried. :rolleyes:

McHavyck

02-05-2008, 08:24 AM

Possible Spoiler Warning...

Only click this (http://www.movieweb.com/news/01/26301.php) if you want to see what the Crystal Skull looks like.

The ill Jedi

02-05-2008, 09:33 AM

Possible Spoiler Warning...

Only click this (http://www.movieweb.com/news/01/26301.php) if you want to see what the Crystal Skull looks like.
Cool!!! :rock

The ill Jedi

02-05-2008, 09:34 AM

I'd also like to add that Karen Allen looks just as beautiful as she did in Raiders and Cate Blanchett looks deliciously evil!! :love

Loving those sneak peek pics!! :rock

Entropy Chicken

02-05-2008, 10:16 PM

Movieweb took the image down but here's another pic of it:

http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/02/05/indiana-jones-crystal-skull-revealed/

EDIT:
Another picture of some cool Japanese keychains or dangles or something like that of Indy's treasures:

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/crystalskull.jpg

IrishJedi

02-08-2008, 07:34 AM

Trailer officially arrives on 2/14 (Valentine's Day). It will be attached to "The Spiderwick Chronicles" and also debut online:

'Indy' trailer finally on its way
Paramount, Lucasfilm prep Valentine's Day tease

By MARC GRASER, Variety

Where's Indy?

It's less than four months before Paramount and Lucasfilm unspool "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull," on May 22, but the marketing campaign for the fourth installment of the franchise has yet to crack a whip and offer up footage from the pic.

There's been no teaser, no trailer, no Super Bowl spot; just a one-sheet and exclusive photos handed to magazines like Vanity Fair and Empire or posted on IndianaJones.com.

That comes as a surprise at a time when Hollywood is eager to start hyping its summer tentpoles a year in advance -- and when it's been 19 years since the last Indy adventure, "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade." First trailers for Par and Marvel's "Iron Man" and Warner Bros.' "The Dark Knight" bowed last summer, for example.

But when it comes to "Crystal Skull," Par and Lucasfilm have shown little other than a brief presentation of Steven Spielberg and his cast on set during Comic-Con last July.

That will change next week.

Par will attach the first teaser for "Crystal Skull" to fantasy pic "The Spiderwick Chronicles" on Feb. 14, with the spot to hit the Web shortly thereafter.

Reason for the delay is that the film only recently wrapped, so much of the material that would go into a memorable trailer just wasn't ready until now.

Awareness and anticipation also is already high for the pic, so producers didn't feel the need to show too much too soon.

"In the case of Indiana Jones, he's such a well-known character that it's not like you have to get out there and introduce something new," said Spielberg spokesman Marvin Levy. "You tailor the campaign to the material. We also want to keep a lot of the surprises. That's part of the fun."

Indy, however, isn't the only slow-show in the summer lineup so far.

Universal and Marvel have also kept "The Incredible Hulk" under wraps, and U has yet to show a trailer for the third installment in its "Mummy" franchise or New Line with "Sex and the City."

Entropy Chicken

02-08-2008, 07:55 AM

"We also want to keep a lot of the surprises. That's part of the fun."

:rolleyes: So much of this plot has already leaked and I know most of the surprises so far. I wish Lucasfilm had better control of these things like the Cloverfield people - I didn't hear or see anything right up till opening day. Sure I could've tried to avoid them, oh well. :monkey5

McHavyck

02-13-2008, 03:32 PM

Found this. 1 of 2 covers for the Dark Horse comic adaptation...the other is the movie poster.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p86/chrismac99/indianajones1.jpg

tomandshell

02-13-2008, 03:55 PM

Trailer tomorrow!!

Who's ready?

:monkey5

DarkArtist81

02-13-2008, 03:58 PM

:chew:chew:chew:chew:chew

I can't WAIT!

tomandshell

02-13-2008, 04:01 PM

Found this. 1 of 2 covers for the Dark Horse comic adaptation...the other is the movie poster.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p86/chrismac99/indianajones1.jpg

Cate Blanchett looks like she is about to jump out of that poster and do the twist with John Travolta.

The ill Jedi

02-13-2008, 04:05 PM

Trailer tomorrow!!

Who's ready?

:monkey5
HELL YEAH!!! :rock

tomandshell

02-13-2008, 04:08 PM

Am I the only one expecting a scene towards the end with Marion punching Cate in the face?

The ill Jedi

02-13-2008, 04:10 PM

Am I the only one expecting a scene towards the end with Marion punching Cate in the face?
That would be awesome, chick fight!!! :rock

IronFingaz

02-13-2008, 06:04 PM

When will the trailer be up on the Indy site?

Entropy Chicken

02-13-2008, 07:32 PM

Am I the only one expecting a scene towards the end with Marion punching Cate in the face?

Yeah, and Indy putting his hat on young Mutt, "Ya did good kid". I hope this plot isn't as predictable as I think it may be. :rolleyes:

Still, it's a new Indy film and I doubt there will be any CGI farting camels so there's always that.

darthviper107

02-13-2008, 08:31 PM

And a nice new John Williams score to listen to.

TheObsoleteMan

02-13-2008, 08:38 PM

You know, I've made my share of Old Man Indy jokes in the past, but now I'm just ready to grab a bucket of popcorn and hear that theme music kick in. An old Indy's better than no Indy at all.

Bannister

02-14-2008, 01:36 AM

Just saw the trailer tonight with Jumper.:rock:rock:rock

Bannister

02-14-2008, 01:38 AM

http://ahorahollywood.com/component/option,com_seyret/task,videodirectlink/id,45/

wofford29

02-14-2008, 01:54 AM

http://ahorahollywood.com/component/option,com_seyret/task,videodirectlink/id,45/

Site is under construction?

edit: It's working now!

McHavyck

02-14-2008, 04:37 AM

http://ahorahollywood.com/component/option,com_seyret/task,videodirectlink/id,45/

This movie needs to come out now!!
Thanks, Bannister!

The Ringer

02-14-2008, 05:07 AM

http://ahorahollywood.com/component/option,com_seyret/task,videodirectlink/id,45/

Lookin Good!

DarthNeil

02-14-2008, 05:56 AM

Looks good... my only moment of trepidation is the vehicle chase which looks to have a heavy dose of CGI...

creature4000

02-14-2008, 06:21 AM

It looks like all three movies rolled into one! a bit of Raiders... a bit of Temple.. and Alot of Crusade!

I love the Warehouse scene!

DarthNeil

02-14-2008, 07:12 AM

Official trailer up on yahoo...

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/indianajones.html?showVideo=1

doesitmatter

02-14-2008, 07:25 AM

Tears in my eyes.

doesitmatter

02-14-2008, 07:27 AM

Looks good... my only moment of trepidation is the vehicle chase which looks to have a heavy dose of CGI...

Didn't Speilberg say no CGI?

IronFingaz

02-14-2008, 07:32 AM

:rock:rock:rock:rock:rock May 22nd seems so far away:monkey2

TheObsoleteMan

02-14-2008, 08:45 AM

That was pretty sweet. Picking up the hat, the slowly building theme... chills.

Batty

02-14-2008, 09:06 AM

I've watched it 4 times already! :rock

Bannister

02-14-2008, 09:07 AM

I've watched it 4 times already! :rock

:rock:rock:rock

Entropy Chicken

02-14-2008, 09:12 AM

The movie will be fun whether or not the plot is good or bad. I glad he's using his whip a bit more than to simply disarm people. The transforming crystal skull temple had me rolling my eyes a bit, but it was great to see Indy back.

RoboDad

02-14-2008, 09:40 AM

How anyone could have ever doubted that this movie would totally rock boggles my mind.

INDY. IS. BACK!

Buttmunch

02-14-2008, 10:01 AM

Well I guess aliens will be envolved some way or another since that magnetic crate said "Roswell, New Mexico" on it. Did they take the Arc to Roswell?

IrishJedi

02-14-2008, 10:28 AM

There's plenty of room on the bandwagon. Jump on board!

:chew

chewblacca

02-14-2008, 10:34 AM

Even after all these years, Indy still kicks a$$!

tomandshell

02-14-2008, 10:42 AM

I think the warehouse scene looks great. I got a kick out of the whip swinging gag and it looks like the tone of the movie is going to be great fun.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/1173/roswellcrateposterha1.jpg

Blackhole

02-14-2008, 10:46 AM

YAY!

:D:D:D

Batty

02-14-2008, 10:47 AM

I noticed that two of the soldier's names were Washington and Jefferson. And I could only see part of the truck driver's name, but it looks like he might be named after a president too.

DarthNeil

02-14-2008, 10:51 AM

I noticed that two of the soldier's names were Washington and Jefferson. And I could only see part of the truck driver's name, but it looks like he might be named after a president too.

The soldiers are russians... One of the pictures released earlier had Harrison standing in front of two of these soldiers and both actors have appeared in multiple shows/movies as russian characters (one in Deadwood).

Blackhole

02-14-2008, 11:00 AM

I can't help but notice there is an Indiana Jones board now...

When was that put in???

:rock

RoboDad

02-14-2008, 01:39 PM

OK, so now that we've seen the trailer, who's going to be there for the midnight showing?

You can count me in! :rock

Darthrazz

02-14-2008, 01:43 PM

When are we seeing the PPO for this figure? I can't wait. I'm getting two, one to keep "nice" and one to weather the hell out of!

DarkArtist81

02-14-2008, 01:50 PM

Yeah, I cannot WAIT to weather the HELL out of an Indy figure. It's going to be sooo much fun. Indy was always at his best once he was beat all to Hell. :lol

Darthrazz

02-14-2008, 02:07 PM

Yeah, I cannot WAIT to weather the HELL out of an Indy figure. It's going to be sooo much fun. Indy was always at his best once he was beat all to Hell. :lol

Oh yeah, bloodied , beaten and dirty!

Seretur

02-14-2008, 02:38 PM

I've had an Indy jacket since, oh, thirteen years ago. It's perfectly weathered. :D

Trouble is, I'm at least a size smaller than I used to be... Guess I need to get a new one now.

Also, the heck with it. I don't usually collect 12", but that Trevor sculpt is the best Harrison likeness EVER, and I WOULD play with it ALWAYS. Guess I'll be getting both the exclusive (to keep as my Grail) and the regular (to play with).

:chew

Okay, off to watch the trailer for the 22nd time today. It's not a perfect trailer by any means, as there's too much recapping of the old films scored to The Children of Dune score by Brian Tyler, instead of any Indy music -- but when we get to New Mexico, and the Warehouse, and South America, this is GOLD.

Not just Indiana Jones gold, but more specifically, RAIDERS gold. That level of fun and that level of amazement. And yet it's also its own thing -- different enough to be a winning entry in its own right.

And Harrison doesn't look old enough. :rock

Great to finally have a dedicated Indy forum on the board! :joy

tomandshell

02-14-2008, 03:03 PM

Trouble is, I'm at least a size smaller than I used to be...

Consider yourself lucky!! Some of us have the opposite problem...

:o

Bannister

02-14-2008, 03:53 PM

Consider yourself lucky!! Some of us have the opposite problem...

:o

:lol:lol:lol

Darth Caedus

02-14-2008, 11:53 PM

Man, that flipping trailer was so awesome, I had to change my shorts afteward

Batty

02-28-2008, 10:33 PM

The premiere will be at Cannes on May 18th.

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=festivals&jump=story&id=1061&articleid=VR1117981637&cs=1

zoid2323

03-01-2008, 05:55 PM

Man, that flipping trailer was so awesome, I had to change my shorts afteward

LOL :rotfl

tomandshell

03-29-2008, 11:48 PM

There's a new TV sport available for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=43482

Mostly just cut from the first trailer, but with a brief bit up front that is new. (It's nice to see Indy talking down to Shia.)

The Josh

03-30-2008, 01:14 AM

Cool! Man, I cannot wait for this to hit already.

IrishJedi

03-30-2008, 08:44 AM

A fulcrum release lever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rock :rock :rock :rock :rock

Captain Britain

03-31-2008, 08:13 AM

I'm amazed that the whole plot hasn't been spoiled yet. We know plenty about the settings and a little about the action sequences but the plot itself and the characters are still largely a mystery.

But I'd bet that ET turns up at the end and kicks Commie ass.

IrishJedi

03-31-2008, 08:25 AM

The Josh

03-31-2008, 08:38 AM

It's been 19 years since an INDY film. To me, it makes zero sense to want to spoil it when the film is a matter of days away.

Makes 2 of us. I want to go in knowing as little as possible.

IrishJedi

03-31-2008, 08:53 AM

... And now it appears as if people are getting the standard version of DK's "The Ultimate Guide" early:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2393/2350468932_ff1cc14e61_o.jpg

This particular person isn't posting any of the KOTCS material from the book, but it's only a matter of time before someone else does. Be ready.

The Josh

03-31-2008, 08:58 AM

Nice! Still way too early to have spoiler stuff hitting.

Captain Britain

03-31-2008, 09:45 AM

Irish, what's the difference between the standard version of the DK guide and the collector's version?

Also, anyone know if the Lucasfilm book about Indy will have one version or two, like the wonderful 'making of Star Wars' book last year, which had extra storyboards in the HB edition?

As for spoilers I'm philosophical about it - I'm going to buy every book and official magazine about the new film, so I'm sure I'll end up reading them accidentally.

IrishJedi

03-31-2008, 09:59 AM

Irish, what's the difference between the standard version of the DK guide and the collector's version?

http://www.throwmetheidol.com/products/books/books_2008/dk_ultimate%20guideDLX.jpg

Darth Caedus

04-03-2008, 10:47 PM

Here's some spoilery happy information

http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/movieblog/more/indiana_jones_and_the_kingdom_of_the_crystal_skull _spoilers/

Entropy Chicken

04-03-2008, 11:05 PM

We know from the trailer that the Ark will likely make a cameo, I really hope to see the fertility idol again and learn that Indy finally recovered it.

tomandshell

04-04-2008, 11:15 PM

SSC_Nerd

04-04-2008, 11:26 PM

These were on the official site before they closed up and slapped a "coming soon" tag over the cast section:

http://blog.ugo.com/images/uploads/Indy-McDiarmid-WebPage.jpg

http://blog.ugo.com/images/uploads/Indy-Abner-WebPage.jpg

Aww, man. Wish I didn't see that.:(

Can I be pretty much guaranteed no one's going to put any spoiler heavy stuff in here? I really wanna avoid that stuff, but goodness know's it going to be hard to. Isn't there a seperate spolier thread going now?

tomandshell

04-04-2008, 11:33 PM

Isn't there a seperate spolier thread going now?

I hate to tell you, but check out the title of the thread you're in right now.

:o

SSC_Nerd

04-04-2008, 11:53 PM

I hate to tell you, but check out the title of the thread you're in right now.

:o

EEGAD!!!!!

IrishJedi

04-21-2008, 10:04 AM

By the way, it's confirmed: Mutt is indeed the offspring of Indy and Marion.

tomandshell

04-22-2008, 02:01 AM

Where was that confirmed?

(Not that it's anything close to a surprise, anyway--and I hope that it's revealed early in the story and not dragged out as a third act "surprise" that we all saw coming from miles away.)

IrishJedi

04-22-2008, 06:35 AM

IrishJedi

04-27-2008, 01:38 PM

Indiana Fett

04-28-2008, 06:10 AM

Okay, I just saw a BRAND NEW TV spot that is freakin' awesome (it pays to watch Nickelodeon with the kids sometimes). There was some new footage and dialogue (including a quip between Indy and Spalko) and it ended with a shot of Indy swinging a shovel toward the camera.

I'm beyond stoked! :rock :rock :rock

But this TV spot online NOW Paramount!!! :tap

25MB high-res TIVO version uploaded to SendSpace thanks to one of our friends over on TheRaider boards!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ofrwk8

:rock

...just look for the little orange arrow pulsing at the bottom of the page for the download link. It's called 'videospot2.avi'

IrishJedi

04-28-2008, 06:57 AM

Unable to connect

:monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2

I'm sure the widget will have it today sometime.

Crix

04-28-2008, 01:46 PM

The plot will be spoiled when people start getting early copies of the novel and comic in mid-late April. That's when I leave the SPOILER forums until the movie comes out. The closer we get to the actual release of a movie, the LESS I want to know.

It's been 19 years since an INDY film. To me, it makes zero sense to want to spoil it when the film is a matter of days away.

If I'm highly anticipating a movie, I actually enjoy it more if I've "spoiled" it. I don't really consider the movie spoiled for me though, I like to think of it as "knowing what to expect." Going into a movie totally blank can sometimes result in disappointment, because you might not see what you were expecting. I like knowing what's going to happen. I've just always enjoyed movies more that way. To each his own though.

The Josh

04-28-2008, 02:15 PM

I know my Lost Journal has shipped and I'll have it today or tomorrow. I've got an auto copy coming from Indy shop on the KOTCS Novel.

tomandshell

04-28-2008, 02:32 PM

The Josh

04-28-2008, 02:33 PM

Its pretty close to time 4 me. I'm not even gonna read the novel until after I see the movie.

IrishJedi

04-28-2008, 02:40 PM

IS it time to abandon the spoiler threads yet? A healthy amount of spoilage is fine with me, but it seems like once the books start shipping we will get 100% of the plot out there and I want to avoid it.

And I don't want to find out by accident by coming into a thread and finding out too late that somebody is ruining the ending...

Yes, I would say it's about time... especially since people are now starting to get the regular edition of The Ultimate Guide and it features visual spoilers galore. Then there are things like the new KOTCS calendar and the umpteen new KOTCS images that OfficialPix is unveiling on 5/1. To say nothing of the real likelihood that some folks will get their hands on the novelization any day now...

IrishJedi

04-28-2008, 04:12 PM

Warning! I'm at barnes and noble right now and they gave tons if The Ultimate Guide. I decided to turn to one random page. Dumb idea... Terrible terrible visual spoiler. :(

I'd say the time is indeed NOW to leave this and all other KotCS discussion online between now and 5/22. Freakin spoilers!

Seretur

04-28-2008, 06:27 PM

I'm so incredibly wary of getting the film spoiled ahead of time.

I saw TLC when I was nineteen, and the last time I was with a 19-year-old I did realize she was virtually half my age. So, um, it's been a long time I've waited for this installment.

...yes, that's the point I was making. No spoilers, dammit!

tomandshell

04-28-2008, 06:28 PM

Just remember--this is the spoiler thread. Enter now at your own risk.

:D

Brent72

04-29-2008, 11:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaQBEG4fcd4

You're welcome. ;)

tomandshell

04-29-2008, 11:39 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaQBEG4fcd4

You're welcome. ;)

I love you!!!

And once again--I'm so glad Marion is back.

Brent72

04-30-2008, 10:16 AM

I love you!!!

No problem, man. I was stunned to see it leaked myself. :cool:

KrisSolo

04-30-2008, 10:30 AM

Tis gone... whatever it was (trailer?)

IrishJedi

04-30-2008, 10:33 AM

Yes, it's the new trailer. Paramount has been shutting down all the links and YouTubes at a fever pitch. I imagine an official version will hit shortly.

Great trailer, BTW. :rock

Brent72

04-30-2008, 01:58 PM

All the links have been taken down..........for now.

IrishJedi

04-30-2008, 02:08 PM

It'll soon show up on the official site and then in the widget (or perhaps both simultaneously). The new TV Spot is now in the widget:

<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://widgets.clearspring.com/o/47d1f29eb6daf867/47e93e798d70c16e/47e4593e01f9591a/ac04aef3" id="W47d1f29eb6daf86747e93e798d70c16e" height="250" width="300"><param value="http://widgets.clearspring.com/o/47d1f29eb6daf867/47e93e798d70c16e/47e4593e01f9591a/ac04aef3" name="movie"/><param value="transparent" name="wmode"><param value="all" name="allowNetworking"><param value="always" name="allowScriptAccess"></object>

Bardoon

05-03-2008, 10:55 PM

Saw the new trailer during IRON MAN.

There was mild chatter during all the other film trailers (The Happening, The Love Guru, etc.). But as soon as that familiar "eerie" music hit and Ford's voice spoke out, EVERYONE immediately shut up.

tomandshell

05-04-2008, 11:50 PM

So what's the deal? Now I am seeing John Hurt listed as playing "Professor Oxley." Is he Ravenwood or Oxley? If he is just "Professor Oxley" then why all the secrecy?

Entropy Chicken

05-04-2008, 11:55 PM

weak last minute attempt at spoiler control?

Crix

05-05-2008, 01:03 PM

weak last minute attempt at spoiler control?

Your avatar makes me wonder about something. Does anyone think Indy will lose his eye in this movie? Lucas likes to make his projects tie in to each other (like the Hayden ghost at the end of ROTJ) so do you think Indy might lose his eye so that it ties in with the Indy in his 90's from the Young Indy TV show?

tomandshell

05-05-2008, 01:09 PM

I hope not! That would be gruesome.

:sick

Crix

05-05-2008, 01:11 PM

I hope not! That would be gruesome.

:sick

I'm kind of hoping now that he does lose it. There's an old character in the original Metal Gear, Big Boss, who wore an eyepatch. In Metal Gear Solid 3, you get to play as a young Big Boss, and one of the best scenes in the game is when he loses the eye. I've always been facinated with how characters got their distinctive scars (like Indy getting his chin scar at the beginning of Last Crusade) so now that I remember old Indy has an eyepatch, I want to see how it happens.

IrishJedi

05-05-2008, 01:13 PM

Indy won't lose an eye in the film.

Besides, Lucas removed Old Indy from the Young Indiana Jones DVD release anyway.

(And, no, Indy doesn't die, either).

Blackhole

05-05-2008, 03:02 PM

There's a story set after KOTCS in the young Indy boxset...

Well...part of one...

Indy still has both eyes...and a beard...

AND was played by you know who...which was cool...

Crix

05-05-2008, 03:05 PM

There's a story set after KOTCS in the young Indy boxset...

Well...part of one...

Indy still has both eyes...and a beard...

AND was played by you know who...which was cool...

Really? Mystery of the Blues is set after KOTCS? That's weird, because he looks 50 in Mystery of the Blues and he looks 65 in KOTCS. :)

IrishJedi

05-05-2008, 03:05 PM

There's a story set after KOTCS in the young Indy boxset...

Well...part of one...

Indy still has both eyes...and a beard...

AND was played by you know who...which was cool...

Incidentally, those scenes with Ford were shot on his property in Wyoming and it was during production then that Lucas came up with the original idea for INDY IV.

The Josh

05-05-2008, 03:59 PM

Cool! I've got all 3 boxed sets. Which set is this one on?

Entropy Chicken

05-05-2008, 04:33 PM

Your avatar makes me wonder about something. Does anyone think Indy will lose his eye in this movie? Lucas likes to make his projects tie in to each other (like the Hayden ghost at the end of ROTJ) so do you think Indy might lose his eye so that it ties in with the Indy in his 90's from the Young Indy TV show?

Nope as Irish said Lucas has removed ol' one-eyed Indy from continuity.

And where has it been said the the Blues episode comes after KotCS??

IrishJedi

05-05-2008, 06:12 PM

Cool! I've got all 3 boxed sets. Which set is this one on?

Volume 3... the one that just came out last week. :duff

BTW, Spielberg was going to direct that episode but couldn't because it conflicted with the production of SCHINDLER'S LIST.

The Josh

05-05-2008, 06:20 PM

Ah cool! Will have to pop that one in.

IrishJedi

05-05-2008, 06:23 PM

It's a pretty cool episode, too. Older Indy (with a Spielbegesque beard, by the way) playing a saxophone = :rock

Note: He's only in the bookend scenes... not the entire episode (which is a flashback to Young Indy, of course).

The Josh

05-05-2008, 06:36 PM

Crix

05-05-2008, 06:37 PM

Ah cool! Will have to pop that one in.

It's cool that Harrison Ford appeared in the show, but his scenes are really bad. He's the only good thing about them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZnHZrA6rNs

The whole ending where he saves the day by playing the sax pretty much sums up the entire show for me. Blech.

The Josh

05-05-2008, 06:42 PM

Ok I've seen that one.

IrishJedi

05-05-2008, 06:50 PM

Is this the one where he's driving around in the snow?

Yes, sir. :joy

Trevolver

05-05-2008, 08:48 PM

haha! thanks for that link, hadn't seen this before.

if only KOTCS is as good as that young Indy intro....
Trev

Crix

05-05-2008, 09:25 PM

haha! thanks for that link, hadn't seen this before.

if only KOTCS is as good as that young Indy intro....
Trev

If it's as "good" as that young Indy intro, that would make it pretty "bad." :)

IrishJedi

05-05-2008, 10:05 PM

If it's as "good" as that young Indy intro, that would make it pretty "bad." :)

:nono Aren't you supposed to be the resident "positive" poster? Or does that only count for Stephen Sommers films? :monkey1

Trevolver

05-05-2008, 10:35 PM

Crix

05-05-2008, 10:39 PM

I dunno...that truck chase was stellar...and the villians? top notch. Or how about walking into an abandoned cabin and immediately looking around to to stumble onto a saxaphone? I pray that's how the Crystal Skull is discovered.

:)
Trev

Whoops, I missed all that. Let me watch it again...

(Crixy watches bookends again)

WOW! That was actually...umm....it was...hmm...it had Harrison Ford!!! Cool! :)

KrisSolo

05-06-2008, 07:37 AM

Now THAT would've been a great exclusive... Saxiana Jones? Indiana Blows? I'd buy that for a dollar...

Crix

05-06-2008, 07:21 PM

Now THAT would've been a great exclusive... Saxiana Jones? Indiana Blows? I'd buy that for a dollar...

Includes Untalented Native American actor! :)

Seriously, that guy was horrible. It's like they just found some Native guy on the property and asked him to be in the show.

Bardoon

05-06-2008, 07:34 PM

Indiana Jones conquered Nazism and he's about to conquer Communism.

What're THREE greedy Capitalist punks to him? NUTHIN'! :rock

Crix

05-06-2008, 08:15 PM

Indiana Jones conquered Nazism and he's about to conquer Communism.

What're THREE greedy Capitalist punks to him? NUTHIN'! :rock

Mace Windu vs Indiana Jones: Who would win? And how many would survive witnessing this epic clash that would surely tear most of creation asunder. :)

Indiana Jones

05-08-2008, 12:40 PM

Ok now i'm confused.......Is Abner Ravenwood supposed to be in this...:confused:

I thought that is who John Hurt was playing.

I've just been browsing ebay and seen a John Hurt autograph card and on the back it lists his character as Harold Oxley?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JOHN-HURT-INDIANA-JONES-CRYSTAL-SKULL-Autograph-AUTO_W0QQitemZ380025694690QQcmdZViewItem

Wor-Gar

05-08-2008, 01:16 PM

That's how he's listed everywhere I've seen: Oxley.

Andy Bergholtz

05-08-2008, 01:25 PM

haha! thanks for that link, hadn't seen this before.

if only KOTCS is as good as that young Indy intro....
Trev

I'm surprised you're lurkin' around the SPOILER thread, Trev! ;)

Eh, what am I saying... Even I can't stay away from info on this one, I'm sooo looking forward to this flick.

d_jedi1

05-08-2008, 11:04 PM

Is it just me or does the skull bear a resemblance to ET.

Anytime I see that skull now I start hearing the ET theme.

Trevolver

05-09-2008, 12:32 AM

I'm not reading much, Andy...I SWEAR. ;)

MaulFan

05-14-2008, 04:43 PM

For you Carl, I figured you'd appreciate this, saw it looking into tickets tonight.

http://www.swmmedia.com/SSF/indycalendar.jpg

IrishJedi

05-14-2008, 08:16 PM

Hahah! That is awesome! Indy & The Sox... doesn't get any better for the Summer. Thanks for the heads-up. :rock

pjam

05-14-2008, 08:20 PM

Film Premieres Sunday night at Cannes. In 4 Days!

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?lay...117985657&cs=1

"Indy is windy?" Hmm...

MaulFan

05-17-2008, 12:31 PM

I have a question for folks, is the room full of cargo crates seen in the trailer the same room where the Ark was stored at the end of Raiders?

scubasteve

05-17-2008, 12:36 PM

I have a question for folks, is the room full of cargo crates seen in the trailer the same room where the Ark was stored at the end of Raiders?

I'm confused about this, as well. Also, is the "Prop. of Dr. Jones" crate of any movie significance? What's inside?

MaulFan

05-17-2008, 12:44 PM

Granted we'll find out in 4 days but I was just curious.

pjam

05-18-2008, 09:36 AM

Reviews are coming in...

Here's my Favorite Reviewer's first take. It is spoiler free and generic. Full Review coming... I always recommend seeing the Film fresh, but I am one of those guys who can leave reviews at home when I get to the Theatre so please... read even this tame blurb at your own risk...

By TODD MCCARTHY
One of the most eagerly and long-awaited series follow-ups in screen history delivers the goods -- not those of the still first-rate original, 1981's "Raiders of the Lost Ark," but those of its uneven two successors.
"Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" begins with an actual big bang, then gradually slides toward a ho-hum midsection before literally taking off for an uplifting finish.

Nineteen years after their last adventure, director Steven Spielberg and star Harrison Ford have no trouble getting back into the groove with a story and style very much in keeping with what has made the series so perennially popular. Few films have ever had such a high mass audience must-see factor, spelling giant May 22 openings worldwide and a rambunctious B.O. life all the way into the eventual "Indiana Jones" DVD four-pack.

lynn koch

05-18-2008, 10:31 AM

Where do I list the code for free movie tickets to Indiana Jones & the Kiingdom of the Crystal Skull?

Indiana Jones

05-18-2008, 10:43 AM

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22591

Empire gives a brief view on watching Indy at Cannes.....

TheObsoleteMan

05-18-2008, 10:50 AM

Sounds like it's gonna be fast and fun.

AmanaMatt

05-18-2008, 03:20 PM

Sounds like it's gonna be fast and fun.

That's all I could ever hope for - cant wait!

jocco

05-18-2008, 03:57 PM

Well, I just saw this at a press showing... AND I swear to God that there was a scene were Indiana hides in a refrigerator during an atomic explosion. NO JOKE!:lol

tomandshell

05-19-2008, 09:07 AM

This part of the Dark Horizons review has me slightly nervous:

Like the "Star Wars" prequels, real location filming has been replaced by predominantly green screen sound stage work. Moments of truly suspenseful action have been exchanged for CG-enhanced stunts that remove the last vestiges of remote believability. The narrative and the central macguffin isn't interesting enough to justify a sequel, let alone one that took so long to develop. Finally the tone is far more comical, light and flamboyant than even 'The Last Crusade'.

But only slightly. TLC was as broad and comic as I wanted the series to get, so I will prepare myself for something even more comical than that.

The Mike

05-20-2008, 09:59 PM

Since this is a SPOILER Thread I was shocked when I read this on another site:

The film ends on a nice note. Indy is now Dean (or maybe asst. Dean), and we see the wedding of Indy and Marion. A GREAT moment happens when, as the ceremony ends, the doors are blown open and Indy's hat is blown off the stand and down to Mutts feet. Mutt picks it up, looks at it as if "this belongs to me now" and is about to place it on his head when Indiana snatches it from Mutt's hands, put it on, and Marion on arm, leaves the church, smiling as if to say "this is my hat/franchise/story, kid". I loved it. Spielberg knows our fears, and plays with us.

The Wedding of Indy and Marion? I never would have predicted that! WOW!

Dr.Mirakle32

05-20-2008, 10:30 PM

KOTCS, was a very so/so film, if that makes any sense. The biggest dissapointment came with the film's final wedding scene. Where were the links to Indy's past? The whole film I was expecting for Short Round, and Sallah to pop up in the expected wedding ending, but they were nowhere to be found. What a ^^^^ Indy is for not inviting his original "son", and his good friend (to both him and Marion) to his most special event.

Having them appear would have redeemed the whole film. But alas, they didn't.

Seretur

05-21-2008, 08:38 PM

Like the "Star Wars" prequels, real location filming has been replaced by predominantly green screen sound stage work.

Untrue. Just untrue. ROTK is vastly more guilty of that than KOTCS.

Moments of truly suspenseful action have been exchanged for CG-enhanced stunts that remove the last vestiges of remote believability.

And this as opposed to 6" dolls in mine cars?

The narrative and the central macguffin isn't interesting enough to justify a sequel, let alone one that took so long to develop.

This tells me that the Garth Franklins of this world should read books instead of panning movies.

Finally the tone is far more comical, light and flamboyant than even 'The Last Crusade'.

Uh, WHAT? This just makes zero sense. Especially as it's untrue, and even if true, how could that be construed as a negative?

I won't even go into the lack of cameos in the wedding scene -- you do realize that those would be geek panderings of the lowest sort, do you?

DarkArtist81

05-22-2008, 01:43 AM

Entropy Chicken

05-22-2008, 02:08 AM

Totally agree with you Seratur... Some people just wanted this film to be the second coming or something. It was great. It doesn't top Raiders, but it is right up there.

I'm glad they didn't make the wedding cameo heavy, it would have made it a bit laughable. Besides, who knows if those characters are still alive at the time?

The film begins with Indy pretty much alone and lost, as if he had lost everything and everyone that mattered to him. Would have been going against that a bit if all of a sudden Sallah and Shortie are there at the wedding.

They should've had a ghost Henry Jones and Marcus Brody at the wedding ala ROTJ. :lol It wouldn't have been any goofier than what they did with the CGI alien crystal skeleton or that Tarzan monkey business.

I'm glad you guys enjoyed the film, and it was indeed fun, but it's certainly the weakest of the series. Given some sleep and time, I'll post a more detailed analysis.

hairlesswookiee

05-22-2008, 05:48 AM

The film begins with Indy pretty much alone and lost, as if he had lost everything and everyone that mattered to him. Would have been going against that a bit if all of a sudden Sallah and Shortie are there at the wedding.

yeah thats one thing i liked about it. it showed that things are different and his journeys are almost at a close. however, even a mention of short round would've been nice. i was pissed that he wasn't in Crusade, but it would've complicated that movie more than it already was.
~~Ok, I was 100% happy with the movie until the Alien thing kept coming up.... sure the Roswell idea was cool, but when they find the temple and the CGI space ship started popping up.... I wanted to cry and I almost threw up in my mouth. I wish they would've found a way to not show that part. and the wedding scene was very nicely done. gave some closure to Indy and Marion. She is my favorite Indy girl out of all three. Cate Blanchett is hot in the movie too!!! I dig that whole swash buckling Soviet KGB agent. :naughty

Gruson

05-22-2008, 08:01 AM

Ok,

I just saw it.

AWFUL movie on so many levels.

No drama, tension, substance, or anything at all.

The CGI animal scenes made me want to puke. Gophers watching the action? LOL

Indy's kid swinging from vines with monkeys? LOL

Indy in a fridge while a nuke goes off? Man....

The statue of Brody's head falling off!!! what??!

So stupid.

This is no where near the level of the original Indiana Jones movies.

Boring, way too much forced comedy, and not Indy IMO.

My entire group was let down by this one...big time.

I just don't understand how Steven, Frank Marshall, Kathleen Kennedy, or anyone else would think this was actually good!!!!!

Give me Mola Ram and Temple any day over this. That movie was exciting and fun!

The Indiana Jones "magic" was not there.

el81295

05-22-2008, 08:29 AM

Reading the reviews is getting me bummed. I'm a lemming so I'll still go and see the movie, but a small part of me wants to skip it, so I can remember Indy the way I do right now.

DarkArtist81

05-22-2008, 09:14 AM

yeah thats one thing i liked about it. it showed that things are different and his journeys are almost at a close. however, even a mention of short round would've been nice. i was pissed that he wasn't in Crusade, but it would've complicated that movie more than it already was.
~~Ok, I was 100% happy with the movie until the Alien thing kept coming up.... sure the Roswell idea was cool, but when they find the temple and the CGI space ship started popping up.... I wanted to cry and I almost threw up in my mouth. I wish they would've found a way to not show that part. and the wedding scene was very nicely done. gave some closure to Indy and Marion. She is my favorite Indy girl out of all three. Cate Blanchett is hot in the movie too!!! I dig that whole swash buckling Soviet KGB agent. :naughty

The aliens didn't bother me in the least. It fits in with the period AND it is a major major part of Crystal Skull lore. For me, someone who has followed the story of the skulls... it was great to see it all play out like that.

I'm really shocked at the reaction to this film. The theater I was in, people were loving it. There was even applause at the end. Sure, there were some silly bits. But there was tension in the film also. In the end it still felt like Indy to me, and I loved it.

I have a feeling that people will be polarized on this film. Some will love it, some will hate it. And I guess I'm in the minority here.

I can understand people tearing apart Speed Racer like this, that movie was terrible. But Indy? It wasn't that bad. :lol

choopie

05-22-2008, 10:19 AM

I liked the time period, and I have no issues with the whole alien idea, but for some reason, the story just wasn't clicking with me. I felt there wasn't much cohesiveness with the plot (but I will see it at least one more time, so those views might change).

I felt no connection with any of the characters, not even Marion, who had such a more important role in Raiders. I felt she was just there to bring some familiarity to the film for the fans. If she was absent, it wouldn't have changed the flow of the film at all. I didn't like John Hurt's character (Oxley) one bit, and there was no sense of fear or threat with the Russians vying for power with the Crystal Skulls -- not like the Nazis with the Ark. I thought Shia's performance was good, which surprised me. Overall, I just felt the film had no energy, not like with previous Indy films. And, sad to say, Marion and Indy looked old and tired, and it is the first of the franchise where I really felt it wasn't an Indy film...just some of his quips and the marriage at the end...that's not Indy. Yes, we are getting a glimpse of more of his character, but it's not something we've really seen in the past.

Some of the scenes were silly: Shia swinging on the vines with the monkeys, and there was unnecessary humor with the gophers. No doubt that Lucas had a hand in those.

Scenes I loved:

The glimpse of the Ark at the beginning of the film.
The atomic bomb scene. I thought it was hilarious: Indy looked so out of place in a bright, shiny happy 1950s family setting.
The tribute to Marcus with the photograph -- the statue scene was ridiculous.
The scene with the ants. Although I wanted to see something more squeamish.
The sand pit scene pulling Indy out with the snake. "I think I can feel the bottom." :lol I laughed so hard. Probably the best scene out of the whole movie.

Overall, I have to say I was disappointed. For as much as I love Indy, I sincerely hope they stop with this one.

uscmhicks

05-22-2008, 10:35 AM

I loved this movie. I have no problems with the aliens ( its Steven and George , it gotta happen eventually :lol ) and thought it brought more to the story. I loved the acting and thought the whole plot was excellent. It was non stop action right up until the end of the movie. What were some of you guys expecting ?. A masterpiece ?. Your not gonna ever get another raiders .. ever. Just love it for what it is.

Did anyone else find it strange to see indy wondering around those suburbs , it looked really strange !. :lol
I think its great and am very very happy with it.

scubasteve

05-22-2008, 11:19 AM

Reading the reviews is getting me bummed. I'm a lemming so I'll still go and see the movie, but a small part of me wants to skip it, so I can remember Indy the way I do right now.

Same. It sounds like this movie should have never been made.

JAWS

05-22-2008, 11:39 AM

teemu

05-22-2008, 11:43 AM

photoshopmagician

05-22-2008, 11:53 AM

I like it. It was fun and just about equivilant to the first 3 films. While the first 3 will always be better and still retain that "classic" Indy feel. KOTCS still feels like Indy, it's just different for us because he's old now and it's the 50's, not the 30's. We're so used to the 30's Indy that the 50's Indy seems "boring" to us.

I thought everything was great, and while it wasn't perfect, people shouldn't look to it as a revelation. It was a movie! I thought it was great and loved it!!

When Shia was about to put on the hat at the end everyone in the theater booed and hissed :rotfl:rotfl

Deak Starkiller

05-22-2008, 12:10 PM

My take

The bad...

Ok here goes fellas. First off I am a die hard Indy fan, yes I love TOD and Last Crusade as well. The problem I have with IJATKOTCS is that it is forgetting what makes Indy, Indy! Unfortunately you can put most of the blame on George Lucas, his finger prints are all over this movie (see gophers, monkey swinging, fridge in desert?) and way too much odd cgi. Also Indy seems to be actually sitting by and allowing the events to unfold and unravel as others figure out the actual plot (see crazy old man Ox). The other thing I have a problem with is the thought of actual aliens in the film, it just doesn't feel or look right at all. Now if they had implied aliens like seeing the Russians reactions instead of seeing the dead corpse of the little green man that would have been different. If they kept Indy grounded in reality or at least the aliens up to interpretation (like the McGuffins powers in the previous films) then I would have been more on board. To me it would have been cooler to see a side silhouette shot over the shoulder of the alien and seeing Spalko's head explode, you know implying the aliens rather than giving you the George Lucas cgi money shot. I just feel as if there has always been a supernatural element in the series thus far, but it's always been grounded in reality somewhat. The movie felt too much like the Indy's greatest hits and that the film was trying too hard to please, Steven and George don't really need to do that, they just needed their A game and things would have been fine. Make the movie that caters to quality, you don't have to show the ark of the covenant, all they could've done was play the theme of the ark and recreate the shot of the warehouse doors opening and any true fan would have picked up on that alone as being cool. This unfortunately feels more like the Mummy or National Treasure movies than an Indy adventure. But don't fret kids there is some things to love in the film.

The Good...

The way the movie looks. Spielberg is still the master at the shots he chooses and the movie really shows it. Also the characters are awesome: Spalko, Mutt, Mac, even Dovchenko! They are all welcome additions to the cast of characters from previous films. The introduction of the Russians was actually pretty cool too, Dovchenko's in particular felt very much like a Metal Gear cut scene (which is a compliment). Another great addition was Mutt, I know there are a lot of haters on Shia but I really do enjoy his roles as an actor and he really brings a lot of heart and charm to this character. Hell he is the only one to even really bleed or cuss! I know Indy was hurt a little too but not like Mutt in the movie. Another positive thing to say would be the score, again felt like the greatest hits of Indy minus the TOD themes but it was pretty solid. I know this is going to sound scatter brained which it probably is considering when I got home and when I am writing this but I just feel as if this movie missed it's mark. A lot to like but no love, at least not yet. Maybe I'll turn into an apologist like I did with the Phantom Menace (which IJATKOTCS did not give me that new movie glaze over my eyes like Episode I had) but I am just not seeing it all here kids. Oh nice to see the janitor from SCRUBS and Charles Widmore from LOST in the movie. I am curious to see how the film plays on repeat viewings but we'll see. 2.75 out of 5, the 3rd best sequel to ROTLA.

denger4000

05-22-2008, 12:31 PM

Got back from seeing it last night, all I have to say is Close Encounters of the Third kind 2, er I mean Indiana Jones 4 was alright, had some decent parts but the aliens kind of killed it for me.

Gruson

05-22-2008, 01:14 PM

Don't EVEN compare this movie to Close Encounters!!!!

Close Encounters is a masterpiece.

Indy IV is well, don't get me started again!

I will say at least John Williams used the themes perfectly. I did like how he used the "grail" theme when it showed the picture of Henry. Nice touch....same with the Ark and Marion themes.

Entropy Chicken

05-22-2008, 01:46 PM

All the character stuff was great. The mentions of Marcus and Henry Snr. were wonderful as were the interactions between Marion and Indy & Mutt and Indy. Jon Hurt and Ray Winstone were wasted in lame one dimensional roles that only served to give exposition and move the story forward. They seemed thrown in just to get Indy or the Russians to go somewhere.

The plot, especially the "threat" of the Russians getting the skull... not so great. No real threat there. I had no problem with the concept of aliens, just the manner in which they were handled in this movie. The skull has magical power mind control and magnetic properties because it's a piece of an inter dimensional alien that once reattached to its skeleton body, reanimates the alien skeleton, bestowing knowledge to the one returning the skull which made Spalko's head explode and body disintegrate before the saucer blinks back into whatever dimension it came from... um ok. Even Lara Croft would find that a bit over the top.

As I said before in the other thread, some are going to fixate on the sloppy, goofy flaws of the film and hate it, others are going to overlook the bad bits, only focusing on the good, and love it. If you look at both aspects, it's an enjoyable film but not as well written as the other 3.

Gruson

05-22-2008, 02:17 PM

There was so little good...that is the problem.

I was REALLY hoping it would get better after the nuke scene but it never did.

I wanted to just fast forward through so many scenes…..I also thought about walking out more than once.

Glad I didn’t though. I would have missed:

-funny gophers

-three waterfalls

-swinging monkeys

-fistfight in the middle of ants

-Shai getting racked 10 times in a row

-Kate holding a sword, trying to look scary

-crazy guy holding a shiny skull for hours

-lead fridge

-Brody’s smiling head falling off

-snake rope

-Marion pretending to drive, just holding a steering wheel

-Marion coaching the sword fight between the cars

-Marion driving off a cliff

-tree branch killing most of the Russians

-the phasing mothership

-jumping martial arts guys, trying to be scary

-and of course, the ALIEN with knowledge

Oh man...what a disaster.

The Indy "magic" was not there at all with this one.

pjam

05-22-2008, 02:23 PM

Do you Guys think you might have enjoyed it more without the Sci Fi elements? That was all Steven's idea btw...

Gruson

05-22-2008, 02:28 PM

Do you Guys think you might have enjoyed it more without the Sci Fi elements? That was all Steven's idea btw...

I don't mind sci-fi, that's not the problem with it.

uscmhicks

05-22-2008, 02:35 PM

lmao , c'mon guys Steven makes a hell of a lot of movies with aliens !!
I think it was inevitable. I actually didn't mind that. They were way to reliable on the cig aspects though , thats one thing that was a little annoying.
Shia swinging on the ropes sucked a little , TARZAN !! :rock:lol!.
It was a decent flick for me.
A fridge wouldn't save you from a nuke.

Trevolver

05-22-2008, 02:46 PM

Gruson....you summed it up

Trev

SideshowDusty

05-22-2008, 02:52 PM

Okay, jumping in since more people have seen it and maybe I'm not insane after all :lol ... The main problem with it was not the sci-fi aspect - I actually think that was pretty cool if it had been handled correctly. The problem is GIANT plotholes and a WAY too complicated plot / too many protagonists. What's up with movies these days thinking they have to overcomplicate everything and throw everything, including the kitchen sink, into the mix? (I'm not even getting into the forehead-smacking WTF?-ness of some of the silly CGI crap... Jeep-in-tree anyone?? I think Gruson covered those ;) It was like a cartoon, or a video game.)

The ONLY part I enjoyed with child-like abandon was the motorcycle chase - that was as close to classic Indy that it ever came. I enjoyed the jungle chase for the first 5 minutes - then when Shia got repeatedly smacked in the nuts for a cheap laugh (I think once is probably enough), I checked out for the remaining bit... the monkeys and ants made it worse, and just when I thought it couldn't POSSIBLY get worse, came the Jeep-in-tree bit (Tom, I thought you were KIDDING about the junk-smacking, just to bag on Shia!!)

Anyway, Shia aka 'Mutt' (so cute - he's named after the dog - sigh) summed it up for me at the end... "I don't understand"... why this movie was made. I thought the wedding scene was like a dream or something, it was so fake and stilted. Had to go immediately watch Raiders after I got out of the theater to wash the taste away.

Simply - without the Indy name attached and the nostalgia involved, this movie would be getting panned unanimously for how stilted, unnatural, and ridiculous (yes, I know the other Indy's are pretty ridiculous - but this takes it to new levels that I never wanted to see in an Indy movie) it is. What happened to the natural lighting, on-location filming, and gritty realism from the first three? Not to mention the cleverness. It felt like they were all simply 'acting' in this one... just hitting marks, no true charisma coming out, except for a couple of moments here and there. There was no real heart and definitely no heart-in-mouth, 'how's-he-gonna-get-out-of-this-one' moments that define the first three. (and yes, I totally understand that Indy has aged and lost loved ones - but still)

I honestly enjoyed the National Treasure and Mummy films more than this 'Indiana Jones' spoof (seriously, parts are more like a National Lampoon parody of an Indy film), and sadly will never be seeing it again, nor buying the DVD. And you know me, I LOVE silly popcorn films like Transformers and POTC2. This is neither one of those films NOR an Indy adventure film, IMO. So sad :(

(sorry, didn't mean to sound so hateful, it just all came pouring out, once I opened the floodgates!! :o )

And if you haven't seen it, by all means go to the theater and view it for yourself. That's why I didn't post a review early. I don't want to dissuade anyone from seeing it and judging for yourself!

Krayt Dragon

05-22-2008, 03:05 PM

WOW!

Sounds like a rental after all.

icruise

05-22-2008, 03:09 PM

I enjoyed it, but it wasn't exactly the second coming that some people had been hoping for. I agree with most of what people have been saying although maybe not with the same degree of anger that I'm sensing. I might get some flack for this, but it actually makes the Phantom Menace look a lot more impressive by comparison. Just about every aspect of TPM worked better than Crystal Skull.

I thought the banter between Indy and Irina Spalko at the beginning, and Marion later on seemed forced and awkward. Karen Allen seemed a little rusty or something. I like Shia and think he did a good job with Mutt, but somehow the character didn't seem very well developed.

I didn't really get the sense of wonder that I felt in the other films. I'm not sure what it was. I was hoping that it wasn't really going to be aliens at the end but of course that didn't pan out. Overall, easily the worst of the series, but still a good time. Call me sentimental, but I liked the fact that Marion and Indy got together at the end. All in all, it was a fun movie but maybe not quite up to Indy standards. I'm going to see it again in a couple of days, so we'll see how it holds up a second time through.

On the bright side, it really makes you appreciate how great the first three movies were.

photoshopmagician

05-22-2008, 03:14 PM

On the bright side, it really makes you appreciate how great the first three movies were.

Hopefully now people will give TOD the respect it deserves! :lol

TOD was my favorite Indy film of the now 4!!!!!!!

pjam

05-22-2008, 03:16 PM

Wow Dusty, your best review yet. I'm not joking.

This was a desperate attempt to do one thing -- not tell an intriguing story, not endear audiences to the characters, not recreate a Classic Indy film...

To make money. And we all know George would be just as happy with Porn Wars as Star Wars as he has said many times he would have become a Pornographer just as easily. Thank God that never happened.

Unfortunately, from the start, THIS Indy never had a chance to do any of the essential things which make a Movie an enduring Classic tale because the three principals involved couldn't agree on anything, except that they wanted to make money the way each of them envisoned... so there was never a cohesive Creative vision of it.

What you have is three guys who want to make one movie three different ways and that was the problem. It was a Committee project. I really wish they had simply hired a gun to write a great script the way that Writer envisioned a great Indy film. Such as Larry Kasdan did with Raiders and ESB. It was an impossible assignment for any Writer, this is why you got an incoherent patchwork of scenes pasted together with elements sprinkled in -- in a desperate attempt to make it look like a great movie. I know personally from others involved in the Development process that it was an impossible task. They hardly collaborated on this thing, just met with the Writer individually, gave him their notes (which were all different) and this went on and on.

Even the Crystal Skull mythology has been debunked by the Smithsonian. The clear polished skulls were made with modern machine tools.

It didn't stand a chance to be a great Movie. But it seemed it did entertain a lot of you, so it wasn't all for nought.

It did become a Studio theme park ride and I'm afraid that's all it is.

A theme park ride.

Entropy Chicken

05-22-2008, 03:30 PM

-swinging monkeys

-Shai getting racked 10 times in a row

-Brody’s smiling head falling off

-jumping martial arts guys, trying to be scary

Oh man...what a disaster.

The Indy "magic" was not there at all with this one.

I seem to forget the crazy kung fu skeleton warriors. :lol They were such a joke. And the stupid head falling off the statue. Shai getting racked endlessly and the insane monkey Tarzan stuff overshadows that goofiness with even lamer gags.

Trevolver

05-22-2008, 03:35 PM

photoshopmagician

05-22-2008, 03:40 PM

well, that, and KOTCS gave us a ton of cool merchandise

Trev

You can say that again! :chew:chew:lol

SideshowDusty

05-22-2008, 03:42 PM

Yep, that sums it up very nicely too, Dusty. I agree with you completely, as much as the Indy fan in me wishes I loved it. I always felt like a fly on the set, never as though I was submersed in an adventure.

Temple of Doom aint lookin' so bad now, is it folks? ;) ha! okay, I just realized the value of this film...it'll show people that Temple is a great adventure. well, that, and KOTCS gave us a ton of cool merchandise

Trev

I LOVE LOVE LOVE Temple of Doom. It is a close second to Raiders for me. Just can't beat the pure fun and adventure in that one - made me want to be an archaeologist (and yes, I really do have my degree in archaeological studies :lol)

Blackhole

05-22-2008, 03:43 PM

I don't see what all the fuss is about...

Sure, it was no Raiders, but Raiders will never be beaten...

I liked it, but it's out there by itself, it's just different, not bad different...

It's like TPM compared with ANH...like it was ever going to beat ANH...yet people complained...

And at least there was no Jar Jar...

Sucks about Henry Sr though...:monkey2

Gruson

05-22-2008, 03:51 PM

Well said Dusty. I agree.

Temple has always been my favorite sequel, right behind Raiders. Loved it as a kid and still love it today. Great action, good story, and great interaction between characters. Fun movie with real emotion too.

Deak Starkiller

05-22-2008, 03:57 PM

You know after letting this one marinate (or rot) in my mind I really wonder what the Frank Darabont script was like. Why did George turn it down, and why did Spielberg call it "the best script I've read since Raiders"? Does anyone have a pdf. of the Frank Darabont script? :(

Rock83

05-22-2008, 03:57 PM

Just got home from the cinema,i really enjoyed the movie,i felt the Indy magic for sure.

The negative part of the movie is the Alien thing,the treasure was the knowledge,know that Aliens excist,and the UFO appeared in the end,Indy and Aliens doesnt go well together.

The Josh

05-22-2008, 03:59 PM

icruise

05-22-2008, 04:01 PM

Deak Starkiller

05-22-2008, 04:08 PM

Getting ready to go see it in about 3 hours. Just wanted to read through here and see what people where thinking. I've seen nothing that just ruins the movie for me but with all the disliking of the film I have funny feeling I'm gonna love it.

We shall see.

Well if this gives you any perspective Josh, I had no hopes for the movie which usually means I can find something to lift me up...and that never happened. Hell, it worked in Transformers but not Indy. It really breaks my dork heart to see this kind of movie, I know that's lame but actually true. I didn't think it was the "second coming", I just wanted to like it as much not more than the previous installment of the series.

RevRanger

05-22-2008, 04:19 PM

I have lost any respect I once had for both Spielberg and Lucas. Seriously.

This was such a terrible story I still can't believe it.

Like I said, the main problem is that the hero could have succeeded or failed on his journey and it made no difference in the end. The flying saucer would have just disappeared either way. That is not a story.

Harrison could have pulled it off. He was just handed a bad script, bad director and god-awful exec producer.

Shia was excellent with what garbage they gave him.

The first 20 minutes should have been cut. No purpose. Story should have started with Indy at the tail end of his latest and last adventure, then back at university either retiring or losing his job. Leaving the states. Then answering the call to adventure from Mutt.

The University sequences were the only good parts of the movie.

The entire roles of Marion, Ox, and the the crazy old guy should have been cut. Double agent, triple agent, quadruple agent -- who cares!

Indy was captured and escaped over and over for over an hour!

The unbelievable action (fridge, duck vehicle in tree, waterfalls, tarzan, etc.) should have been dropped.

They never demonstrated what would happen if the bad guys got the skull. Just said they would get the power. WHAT POWER? We saw a drawing of some guys shooting lightning from the ark and leveling an army. We knew Indy HAD to get it. We need to know the threat.

Spalko the mind reader? Boy, let's mention that and NEVER follow up on it.

Indy used his whip what? TWICE?

Indy didn't kill anyone. I know he's not a "killer", but when you have him in the kill or be killed situations, you know the stakes are high. Blowing away the swordsman, killing three nazis with one shot in crusade -- great stuff.

He drew his gun ONCE. And they villain screamed like a girl and ran away into a hole!

All the CGI crap. All the bad sets. The cemetary being the worst.

There were a million other things wrong with this movie. What a TURD!!!

The Josh

05-22-2008, 04:21 PM

My expectations are low just because I am trying to keep mentally clear on it. I'm taking my sister so I'll make sure to make note of what she thinks.

Deak Starkiller

05-22-2008, 04:24 PM

You make good point Rev, this movie feels more like DieHard 4, but I think I enjoyed that one more. Excellent point about the gun and whip.

icruise

05-22-2008, 04:27 PM

They never demonstrated what would happen if the bad guys got the skull. Just said they would get the power. WHAT POWER? We saw a drawing of some guys shooting lightning from the ark and leveling an army. We knew Indy HAD to get it. We need to know the threat.

They made the threat perfectly clear -- Irina said that they wanted to use the skull to control the minds of their enemies. She talked about it for quite some time, actually. There were WAY more concrete examples about how they would use the power than in Raiders or Last Crusade.

pjam

05-22-2008, 04:27 PM

The DekadentDave Review

Hold onto your Hats! :lol

This is not an Indiana Jones movie.

This is a farce of an Indiana Jones movie.

From the moment the Paramount logo dissolves into a mount of dirt and a gopher pops up it is clear that this film is a joke that makes fun of not just every Indy film but also every Lucas and Spielberg film from American Grafitti, 1941 and Close Encounters. They were having fun making fun of themselves at the audiences' expense.

Crystal Turd is like a Mad movie spoof of Indy 4 on the big screen. I'd like to know where the real Indy 4 is hidden. Probably in a magnetic crate somewhere inside of Hangar 51. What I saw last night wasn't it. I was waiting for Ashton Kutcher to step out from behind the screen and tell everybody they just got punk'd. It is so drivelously dull that it plays like a TV reunion movie where all of the aging cast members come back for one last big bruhaha to celebrate their lifetime achievement cumuppance.

When Indy makes his s