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Jamal
12-18-2007, 12:31 AM
http://jimbobwan.com/gij123a.htm

I think he used some Medicom parts etc, this has to be the best custom ive ever seen period!

amarcord
12-18-2007, 12:36 AM
very original indeed :-)

PsychoCenobite
12-18-2007, 04:50 AM
She'd get it! :monkey5

PsychoCenobite :monkey5

Kuzeh
12-18-2007, 06:30 AM
Wow that looks awesome!!

AdamBombOi
12-18-2007, 07:03 AM
Holy ****, I would spend three times the normal amount for that.

****ing IMPRESSIVE.

The ill Jedi
12-18-2007, 07:09 AM
This is F'n gorgeous, very impressive indeed! I really like how the face and body are noticeably more feminine than the males, not only in size but the features as well. I'd love to see more female Predators from Hot Toys, that would rule!! :rock

:drool :drool :drool

http://jimbobwan.com/img_07/112407d.jpg

bagelsncheesey
12-18-2007, 07:20 AM
Can somebody host this image or post it here? The site is blocked at my work :monkey2

AdamBombOi
12-18-2007, 07:23 AM
Man, if Hot Toys wants my money after Wolf and Predator 1, then this is how they would get it.

I'd even pay more for a Hot Toys Machiko Noguchi.

Shai
12-18-2007, 07:27 AM
i'd do her....:cool:

DarkKnight2k4
12-18-2007, 07:36 AM
:monkey3I WANT ONE !!!! :monkey3

Customikey
12-18-2007, 07:43 AM
i'd do her....:cool:


Yeah, but guaranteed the last BJ you ever get.:monkey4

wookster
12-18-2007, 07:50 AM
Those fishnet body stockings do it for me everytime!

Blackhole
12-18-2007, 08:58 AM
Lol...that's sexy...not in the sexual sense, but in the sense of sleekness...

Yeah...

Are there any pics of female preds from official sources?
I don't read enough Predator comics, etc to know...

AdamBombOi
12-18-2007, 10:04 AM
Man, if Hot Toys wants my money after Wolf and Predator 1, then this is how they would get it.

I'd even pay more for a Hot Toys Machiko Noguchi.

For those like Blackhole who didn't read the comics or novels, in the Witchblade vs. Predator comics, there was a female. And in the AvP comic/novel series, Machiko was a human female who was blooded and hunted with a clan for over a year.

Luckily, someone at AvPGalaxy scanned this so I didn't have to:
http://i12.tinypic.com/6uhwizd.jpg

But this pic is from my own collection:
http://i8.tinypic.com/87iux49.jpg



Oh, and for the dude who couldn't view it at work:
http://i11.tinypic.com/81a6rs9.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/6k6hg7b.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/72778tc.jpg
http://i16.tinypic.com/80wb0w2.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/85emh3r.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/85up7vs.jpg

Jamal
12-18-2007, 10:47 AM
The last pic is about 11 kinds of leetness

Blackhole
12-18-2007, 12:19 PM
Cool...the females are hunters too...like Mandalorians...

I always wondered if you could put a human in Predator armour...

They may have done that to whatever her name was in AVP...excpet they didn't after they realised that most of her lines should have been cut...

:lol

AdamBombOi
12-18-2007, 01:10 PM
Actually in the novels a caste system was set in, but since they aren't movies most people don't consider them "canon" which I think is a load of bull. Anyway, the AvP novels said most females stay on the home planet and are not hunters, though there are few who are. I don't remember all of the specifics, but it's there.

Also, if anyone is interested in the novels, steer clear of Forever Midnight, while the author did his best to make the Predators more 'alienlike' - he also made them enslaving, mind controlling, *** kissing, hermaphrodites. Any other novel though, gets this Predator nerd's two thumbs up.


-And I believe Anderson loosely based Lex and Scar on the story/relationship of Broken Tusk and Machiko in the comics/novel. She saved him, he saved her, upon his death he blooded her after she had killed a queen... in the movie, it was nearly the same scenario, which a lot of people didn't know. I for one, enjoyed the ending of AvP because it gave a nod to the comics, though totally not staying true to them.

Sachiel
12-18-2007, 01:12 PM
I wonder what a real female Predator would look like? I'm sure you'd rather do the male after seeing her. :lol

Jamal
12-18-2007, 03:42 PM
I think the Idea of a female Predator in AVP2 would have been frikken awesome man.

Not necessarily as the main Predator but a female presence somewhere atleast

The Godfather
12-18-2007, 03:52 PM
I think the Idea of a female Predator in AVP2 would have been frikken awesome man.

Not necessarily as the main Predator but a female presence somewhere atleast

Even on the home world it would have been cool to see a few of them. Maybe we will but it's not in the first 6 mins. I have seen a few Female predator customs posted here before but I couldn't find the thread.

Les Walker
12-18-2007, 03:57 PM
Glad to see ole Jim BobWan is still around!
He is an awesome customizer!

GREAT figure! :rock

Jamal
12-18-2007, 03:58 PM
You should try and whip something like this up Les

PROWL
12-18-2007, 05:18 PM
Jim Bob still dose 1/6?

DarkArtist81
12-18-2007, 05:33 PM
Very nice work! I love the detail on the costume and body, well done indeed. It's cool to see a female Pred, something that has sadly been lacking from the films so far. I'd love it if they just put one in the background or something one day, just to let us all know what they look like.

Bardoon
12-18-2007, 06:32 PM
That really is a great piece of art!!! :rock

screamingmetal
12-18-2007, 07:21 PM
Looks remarkable but I'm still not likening the idea that Pred females have boobs.
You can see the Narin female model kits here:
http://www.predatorstuff.com/kits_and_models/Narin/

galactiboy
12-18-2007, 08:04 PM
Thats nicely done... and I'm pretty sure you are right about the Medicom parts. At least the gaunlets, hands and a few other bits look like it.

lerath666
12-18-2007, 11:46 PM
Looks remarkable but I'm still not likening the idea that Pred females have boobs.
You can see the Narin female model kits here:
http://www.predatorstuff.com/kits_and_models/Narin/
just currious why not?

PROWL
12-19-2007, 10:15 AM
Thats nicely done... and I'm pretty sure you are right about the Medicom parts. At least the gaunlets, hands and a few other bits look like it.

they are, it says so in his wright up.

Blackhole
12-20-2007, 04:12 AM
What about a Predalien queen???

They did that in one of the AVP games...

She's technically female...:D

screamingmetal
12-20-2007, 02:55 PM
just currious why not?

Mostly because they're just added on there to suggest that it's a female without any good explanation. And also because it makes them mammals, which I never thought of them as being.
I seriously doubt a Predator baby would be capable of suckling with the way it's face is designed. Even if a baby Pred was born without teeth and tusks it would still be difficult for it to suckle. So it just doesn't seem like it belongs on a Predator. It really doesn't mater much to me if it became cannon, but just seems a bit odd looking at first.

Sachiel
12-20-2007, 03:19 PM
They'd probably look like males but bigger. Or maybe Predators are asexual.

I'd like to see a female designed by someone not thinking with their...yeah.

AdamBombOi
12-20-2007, 05:32 PM
They'd probably look like males but bigger. Or maybe Predators are asexual.

I'd like to see a female designed by someone not thinking with their...yeah.

No, please don't ever say that asexual stuff again. John Shirley already wrote in Forever Midnight, totally contradicting comics and novels that there are two separate genders.

I really don't get or subscribe to the "meh, they can't have boobs" or look anything remotely attractive.

Predators, are bipedal beings, have 5 digits on their hands, have two eyes, 1 head, and two arms... with no tail, and even have something similar to hair. The males we've seen in movies are even somewhat built like human males! Their chest, abdomen, legs and arms have VERY similar structure, and they are a very athletic looking race...

Now, let's take that same theory, and apply it to the females. It's more likely than not that they are just as similar biologically to a human female, as the males are to human males. It's not a far fetched idea.

However, the males have no nipples, or navel. Which would mean their birthing is NOT like a humans, perhaps they are hatched; as far as their nipples go, it could be that only the females have them (if at all) to feed their young. Before any spouts off about teeth, they could AGAIN be somewhat like humans and be born with out them, having to grow them in.

So far, that is to ME, the most obvious thing.

Jamal
12-20-2007, 07:22 PM
Id say they would have the features of women also figure wise etc. It woulda have been awesome if they would use a female Predator for something in one of these movies

AdamBombOi
12-20-2007, 09:29 PM
Thanks for backin up my theory Jamal.

I'm really, trully shocked no one has mentioned this (to my knowledge) at a convention with any of the directors. Sense the Strause Brothers have said that Fox told them if it does well, they're green lighted for another movie, which they've also said WOULD take place in space... I really hope someone gets them to consider a female being on screen if one isn't in AVP:R.

Out of everything in the Predator universe, this whole gender thing really gets the most focus. Comics and novels have said and depicted females, but J.S. said in Forever Midnight they were hermaphrodites, totally crapping on what was previously established.

Once in for all, I'd love for this to be put to rest, as logically as possible.

gdb
12-20-2007, 09:54 PM
Mostly because they're just added on there to suggest that it's a female without any good explanation. And also because it makes them mammals, which I never thought of them as being.
I seriously doubt a Predator baby would be capable of suckling with the way it's face is designed. Even if a baby Pred was born without teeth and tusks it would still be difficult for it to suckle. So it just doesn't seem like it belongs on a Predator. It really doesn't mater much to me if it became cannon, but just seems a bit odd looking at first.


You make excellent points, esp. about them being mammals. Plus, of mammals, I think only human femals have engorged breasts while not nursing. But on the other hand... BOOBS!

AdamBombOi
12-20-2007, 09:59 PM
You make excellent points, esp. about them being mammals. Plus, of mammals, I think only human femals have engorged breasts while not nursing. But on the other hand... BOOBS!

But the problem with this, is that if anyone cares about the comics, it does mention in Homeworld, that they may have come from Earth, and left for a different planet when the technology became available, so with that in mind, it could mean they were derived from mammals.

Other than that, just because they have breasts wouldn't make them mammals per se, let's not forget they are supposed to be aliens, which leaves the box wide open.

gdb
12-20-2007, 10:19 PM
I guess I really don't care about the comics. I liked the first miniseiries and the first AvP miniseries but that was a long time ago.

But mammals nurse their young and as you pointed out, predator's don't have nipples so breasts without nipples is... a disturbing thought. But don't get me wrong, if there's a creature with a va-jay-jay for a mouth, I don't see anything wrong with giving her boobs for a chest. Boobs are fun.

AdamBombOi
12-20-2007, 10:55 PM
I also said it could only be the males who don't have nipples, because typically, males don't breast feed, it could be a sign of their evolution.

As for the suckling/breast feeding issue with their mouthes...there is more than one way to milk something. As for them NOT being 'mammals' or even, 'mammal-like' - mammals are ALSO warm blooded, which from what I could gather by them liking hot weather, and the mesh suits being widely accepted in the fandom as being a heating device... I'd say that's another one for being somewhat mammal like... also, mammals have vertebrae... which I think is pretty obvious that they have.

Besides, why does it have to be one thing or another? They're aliens, which aside from one theory in a comic book, means they aren't of this world, and also means the logic we have accepted is totally irrelevant to them.

There have been models made baring the Predator name with Fox's copyright on them, as well as appearances in comics, and in novels of the female counterpart with breasts.

Jamal
12-20-2007, 11:06 PM
I have EVERY Alien/Predator comic on CD Display on my pc, ill have a look if theres any females in any of them

AdamBombOi
12-20-2007, 11:08 PM
You really don't need to, as I posted this earlier:

http://i12.tinypic.com/6uhwizd.jpg

Jamal
12-20-2007, 11:13 PM
They look very feminine man, id say its the exact concept of human men and women.

AdamBombOi
12-20-2007, 11:18 PM
For what it's worth, I found this on yourprops.com that states it was made in 1987, and has Predator 1 listed as the movie... perhaps it was an idea that got scrapped. If anyone has info on this, please feel free to post.

http://i10.tinypic.com/6jybw43.jpg

EDIT: Also check "AvP: Deadliest of the Species #5 & 10" comic, and look for "Big Momma" (as she was named).

Okay, last edit of the night, if you look up interviews with the original movies creators they also refer to the Predator as male.

Jamal
12-20-2007, 11:22 PM
Nice ill have a look man, a thought just came to my head HOT TOYS PLEASE MAKE MACHIKO NOGUCHI AND BROKEN TUSK

gdb
12-20-2007, 11:27 PM
The only reason to give a female Predator boobs is because anthropomorphic beings look good with them. The only reason to explain why and how they have them is if it serves the story. Typically males and females have the same base parts which is why males have nipples. If we are to play a guessing game to justify why female Predators might have breasts while males don't have nipples, I'd like to suggest something colorful such as all the hunters that we've seen so far have had their nipples removed -- maybe they're viewed as a weakness or perhaps when they reach their version of 13 in a Bar Mitvah/Briss type ceremony or that they fall off at a certain age.

Jamal
12-20-2007, 11:30 PM
For what it's worth, I found this on yourprops.com that states it was made in 1987, and has Predator 1 listed as the movie... perhaps it was an idea that got scrapped. If anyone has info on this, please feel free to post.

http://i10.tinypic.com/6jybw43.jpg

EDIT: Also check "AvP: Deadliest of the Species #5 & 10" comic, and look for "Big Momma" (as she was named).

Okay, last edit of the night, if you look up interviews with the original movies creators they also refer to the Predator as male.

Thats a mad find!

AdamBombOi
12-20-2007, 11:36 PM
Yeah, it's wicked for what it is! But goddayumn would I NOT want to have sex with that. Noooooo thanks.

screamingmetal
12-21-2007, 06:54 AM
Most animals have more then two breasts. So why would Predator females have only two breasts instead of four or eight, why only two? Only primates, and Elephants have two breasts. I think they're also added on there for sex appeal. And a female Pred is just not sexy with or without boobs. She'd be the ultimate butterface.
I looked this up on Wikipedia, and there it says that male mice and horses don't have breasts or nipples, so there is a real life instance for that. I do like the nipple removal idea though gdb, very creative!
The Hermaphroditic explanation is weird but creative. Not that that is something I'd want as Predator lore, but it's at least interesting.
I also said it could only be the males who don't have nipples, because typically, males don't breast feed, it could be a sign of their evolution.

As for the suckling/breast feeding issue with their mouthes...there is more than one way to milk something. As for them NOT being 'mammals' or even, 'mammal-like' - mammals are ALSO warm blooded, which from what I could gather by them liking hot weather, and the mesh suits being widely accepted in the fandom as being a heating device... I'd say that's another one for being somewhat mammal like... also, mammals have vertebrae... which I think is pretty obvious that they have.

Besides, why does it have to be one thing or another? They're aliens, which aside from one theory in a comic book, means they aren't of this world, and also means the logic we have accepted is totally irrelevant to them.

There have been models made baring the Predator name with Fox's copyright on them, as well as appearances in comics, and in novels of the female counterpart with breasts.

Actually, it's reptiles that need warmth, not mammals. That's why you're not likely to find them in cold regions but mammals aplenty.
And I think today in order to qualify as a mammal you really need breasts and warm blood. Birds for instance don't have breasts and are warm blooded and aren't mammals. Also it's now very likely that most Dinosaurs were warm blooded too.
It could be called an breast feeding cold blooded alien reptile, but animals that are cold blooded aren't very smart, warmth is needed for big brains. Also, if you consider AVP cannon which takes place in the coldest place on earth, then to me they're obviously warm blooded. Warmth suits or not, I doubt they'd want to step foot on Antarctica if they're cold blooded. Also, AVPR is taking place in cold-*** Colorado mostly at night; and it doesn't look like summer there in the movie. Wolf has the least amount of body "heat" netting of any of the Predators seen on film to date. Warm blood and breasts make them mammals.

And I would never consider anything from Witchblade/Predator as cannon. That female Pred armor in that comic looks far more ridiculous then the AVP Predators' armor.
The way I feel about Breasts on a female Predator is this; ask yourself how you'd feel about the Alien Female Queen having breasts? Pretty weird, out of place, and disturbing isn't it? That's how I feel about Pred females having boobs. Boobs are definitely fun, but I don't think they belong on a female Predator.

Mudshark
12-21-2007, 07:41 AM
... and the mesh suits being widely accepted in the fandom as being a heating device...

Something a little off the "mamms" debate for a moment... I'm not really disagreeing with what you said above about the mesh suit, but I always assumed it was part of the stealth camouflage. It made sense that there would need to be some means of generating and maintaining the cloaking energy field close to the Predators body, and a flexible mesh suit that fit the contours of its body and moved with it is one way it could possibly work.

It could have multiple functions, as other pieces of Predator equipment and weaponry do, and be a thermal insulating suit as well, but to me, at least, the cloaking field idea would be hard to explain without some way for it to be set up around the Predator's body. The mesh suit covers that issue very nicely. Supporting that idea is what happens when the cloaking field shorts out after being drenched in water, and the whole suit zaps and sparkles all over the Predator's body. Just thought I'd mention it. :D

AdamBombOi
12-21-2007, 09:08 AM
Something a little off the "mamms" debate for a moment... I'm not really disagreeing with what you said above about the mesh suit, but I always assumed it was part of the stealth camouflage. It made sense that there would need to be some means of generating and maintaining the cloaking energy field close to the Predators body, and a flexible mesh suit that fit the contours of its body and moved with it is one way it could possibly work.

It could have multiple functions, as other pieces of Predator equipment and weaponry do, and be a thermal insulating suit as well, but to me, at least, the cloaking field idea would be hard to explain without some way for it to be set up around the Predator's body. The mesh suit covers that issue very nicely. Supporting that idea is what happens when the cloaking field shorts out after being drenched in water, and the whole suit zaps and sparkles all over the Predator's body. Just thought I'd mention it. :D

Actually, you're 100% right. Most of the books, and the comics also talk about the mesh being used for camo, and as a way to regulate their temperature.

-Screaming Metal, I put in that mammal/cold crap, because frankley, I'm a mammal, and I'm freezing my *** off right now wishing it was warm in my house. Hey global warming! I'm ****ing COLD!


As far as why should predator's have 2 breasts if at all? Look at the male counterpart, they've got two. Anyway, this is giving me a headache, check out the Predator stuff on wikipedia, hunter's lair, planet... well, basically go to any Predator fan site and they all have good write ups on females. The best one I've got bookmarked is http://www.absoluteavp.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=88

People can not like the idea, people can try and debate it, but it is there, it was published, and I'm not gonna change my mind.

Blackhole
12-21-2007, 11:03 AM
They do look pretty reptile like...what with the claws and scales...

Then again, they have Madibles too...

Well, they are aliens...

gdb
12-21-2007, 06:35 PM
I'm all in favor of junking the fan fiction and EU of the Predators too -- so much of EU is glorfied fan fiction anyway. And with the revisionist nature of AvP I bet the studios don't hold much stock in them either.

The brilliance of the Alien Queen's design is that it is true to the artistic logic created by Geiger. Hard, cold, skelletal, phalic and in line with the thematic motifs of reproduction -- what with her giant egg sack taking up most of the room and the hooded nature of her extendable mouth.

The Predators, created by Stan Wintson, seem to be steroidal and macho but where Geiger put a ****** in his design, Winston put a va-jay-jay. I'd like to know Winston's thoughts on his design and the reasonings behind some of his choices. Listening to the audio commentary by John McTiernan, the purpose of the Predator was in part to be like a Rocky vs. Alien as in the best we have to offer vs. the best they have to offer. This suggests to me that the first Predator is atypical of their culture. But who knows.

As Einstein said, "I want to know the mind of god, the rest are details."

Mudshark
12-21-2007, 08:47 PM
Don't forget the "biomechanical" concept, which is also an original and essential characteristic of Giger's art and the basic alien design... at least the original alien design. It was somewhat de-emphasized in the movies following alien, since Giger himself was not involved in them, but there were many excellent examples in the first film. The "Space Jockey" was very obviously part creature, part machine, one of the best examples of Giger's biomechanical concept.

PROWL
12-21-2007, 10:03 PM
I'm all in favor of junking the fan fiction and EU of the Predators too -- so much of EU is glorfied fan fiction anyway. And with the revisionist nature of AvP I bet the studios don't hold much stock in them either.



You sure you want go there? The issue of "canon", EU, fan fic, ect, leads to a very dark scary place.

screamingmetal
12-22-2007, 11:18 AM
AdamBombOi, I'm not trying to change your mind, just voicing my opinions on the subject and discussing them. Thanks for the link to the female Pred article, I've read a few but that one is new to me, I'll give it a read in a minute or two.
I have to agree with Gdb, the EU Pred and Alien stuff shouldn't be considered cannon, especially the crossover stuff (at least for me). Even though I do like some of the Comics stuff that I have read.

Mudshark, I've always thought the body net was part of the cloaking technology too. But I started to have doubts when the net suits started to cover less and less of their bodies. The heating thing makes more sense to me, but how the cloaking technology works is still puzzling. It seems to be more of a cloaking field such as what's used on Star Trek ships.

creecher
12-22-2007, 03:26 PM
The netting may just be a punk era thing. Has any mention been made of the green blood possibly being an anti-freeze?

The netting doesn't cover their whole body, so why do their head hands and feet become cloaked? It would make more sense if the cloaking device worked along electrical lines, such as their blood and sweat, and conducted through metal, such as armour, and had a short throw range, to encompass other elements, such as the loin cloth, skulls and ancillary weapons they carry. Though the netting would aid in giving a more even coverage. The netting may even be a cooling device, rather than heating. Whose to say?

gdb
12-22-2007, 06:06 PM
Don't get me wrong. Some of the comics are pretty good. I loved the Mark Verheiden runs. (Which makes sense as he's written some of my favorite Smallville [Perry, Heat, etc.] and BSG [Eye of Jupiter, Crossroads Pt. 2, etc.] episodes) In fact his Dark Horse Comics run on Aliens is arguably better than any of the Alien films to come after it. But in them Newt is a teenager and the Elephant type Aliens invade Earth and in the movies, those things don't jive at all.

Yeah, for the netting, I remember hearing or reading that it was for cloaking but that doesn't sync with their uncovered parts. I do like the idea that it's a heating or cooling system. Like thermal underwear. Cooling is an interesting idea. It's said that they like the heat. It would be ironic if they like the heat for their vision or their equipment to work better. I suppose it could be fashion? Yeah, their blood does look like anit-freeze. :lol Maybe it's Mountain Dew! ... Creecher, do they have Mountain Dew in Australia?

Jamal
12-22-2007, 06:17 PM
The netting may just be a punk era thing. Has any mention been made of the green blood possibly being an anti-freeze?

The netting doesn't cover their whole body, so why do their head hands and feet become cloaked? It would make more sense if the cloaking device worked along electrical lines, such as their blood and sweat, and conducted through metal, such as armour, and had a short throw range, to encompass other elements, such as the loin cloth, skulls and ancillary weapons they carry. Though the netting would aid in giving a more even coverage. The netting may even be a cooling device, rather than heating. Whose to say?

Ive actually read that the netting is what makes them cloak on command

AdamBombOi
12-22-2007, 06:53 PM
The netting may just be a punk era thing. Has any mention been made of the green blood possibly being an anti-freeze?

The netting doesn't cover their whole body, so why do their head hands and feet become cloaked? It would make more sense if the cloaking device worked along electrical lines, such as their blood and sweat, and conducted through metal, such as armour, and had a short throw range, to encompass other elements, such as the loin cloth, skulls and ancillary weapons they carry. Though the netting would aid in giving a more even coverage. The netting may even be a cooling device, rather than heating. Whose to say?

I'm confused... what is this about a punk era thing? I'm a punk, and I don't wear nets, and neither do any of my friends, or the old 80's punks I've crashed with. Now, if Preds started having tall neon spikey dreadlocked hair, then sure.

...about the netting being for heating, if they prefer to hunt in hot conditions, and their planet is supposed to be hot (see books, comics, and the still screen cap for AVP:R, which makes it look hotter than hell), why would they want to cool down? Especially with the team we saw in Antarctica?

Personally, if the netting has nothing to do with the cloaking, I'd assume the wrist computer, once activated would cloak the wearer, and the rest of the items on him. I don't know, all I know is that I can't wait and see Wolf **** up some bugs.

Jamal
12-22-2007, 06:54 PM
3 more days god damnit!

AdamBombOi
12-22-2007, 07:26 PM
ME WANT MOVIE NOW!!! :monkey2

Seriously though, after waiting soooooo long since the official press release this movie was going to happen, this is the BEST Christmas present EVER.... be even better if Hot Toys sent out those figures EARLY!

Jamal
12-22-2007, 07:40 PM
All i know is man i was hyped for the first AVP then i was crushed, hopefully this time its not a fiasco

creecher
12-22-2007, 07:45 PM
I'm confused... what is this about a punk era thing? I'm a punk, and I don't wear nets, and neither do any of my friends, or the old 80's punks I've crashed with. Now, if Preds started having tall neon spikey dreadlocked hair, then sure.

...about the netting being for heating, if they prefer to hunt in hot conditions, and their planet is supposed to be hot (see books, comics, and the still screen cap for AVP:R, which makes it look hotter than hell), why would they want to cool down? Especially with the team we saw in Antarctica?

Personally, if the netting has nothing to do with the cloaking, I'd assume the wrist computer, once activated would cloak the wearer, and the rest of the items on him. I don't know, all I know is that I can't wait and see Wolf **** up some bugs.

The punk thing was a joke. Johnny Rotten used to wear netted shirts, maybe it is for heating. Pretty damn cold in England.

Why would they want to cool down?? Well Earth would be classed as a cool planet, maybe, but whatever, it gets hot here too. so turn on the air. Their planet being hot doesn't mean they like it hot, maybe just used to it being hot. They might hunt on planets like Mercury, where it might be much hotter than their own planet. Maybe the netting could be like a thermos flask and keep things either hot or cold. But how does it know? Another joke.

It could be a stabilising garment, set to the aliens accustomed conditions. As you can see, I'm not up with all their history and who invented it, doesn't mean I can't question their veracity. That the new Pred fig has no netting on his legs might mean he likes to be more comfortable, sort of like Predator shorts.

Their wrist device would seem to be the obvious answer to any questions that may leave the originators off guard. I'm with you on that one. Computers can do anything.

AdamBombOi
12-22-2007, 09:08 PM
All i know is man i was hyped for the first AVP then i was crushed, hopefully this time its not a fiasco

Thus far, it's practically a dream movie to me. I can't tell you how disappointed I was when it got pushed from a summer release to Christmas.

Creecher, I think the best idea about the netting suit is both of them, perhaps it regulates temperature, on either spectrum, cool or hot. Hell, if that's the case each one is probably differing from Predator to Predator, like a comfort level. I actually really do like that idea, a lot.

Gotcha on the punk joke, it just threw me for a loop before, lol.

creecher
12-22-2007, 09:29 PM
No worries AdamB. You know heaps more than me about this stuff. Knowing nothing make me feel like a cretin. I do speak tripe, but I learn from people correcting me all the time. :o

Who knows, there may be a tribe of spikey dreaded Predators, from a neighbouring planet, coming to wreak a tribal onslaught here, soon enough.

AdamBombOi
12-22-2007, 09:41 PM
Everything I know is somewhat on a constant level... the novels all tie in pretty well, but the comics not so much.

A lot of the comics show the Predators as a vicious, mean, blood thirsty *******. While a lot of others, show the codes they live by, and the honor they have. - It can be confusing as hell, especially when you're new to all of it.

I read some a LONG time ago when I was a kid, and basically forgot em, then I started hunting them down, and there are some inconsistencies that make AVP look like a big hunk of gold. But, I just take it with a grain of salt and think to myself, "gee, I'm glad Steve Perry explained a caste system with their society in his novels, and explained every clan differs from one another."

But hey, as long as they keep writing stories and movies that are entertaining and stay true to the core of what the franchise is, I'm perfectly happy. I just hope John Shirley never writes another Predator novel again, AWEFUL.

-February Darkhorse is releasing Steve Perry's new Predator novel called "Turnabout," and sometime soon after that another author is releasing a book called "South China Seas."

-=LoneWolf=-
12-23-2007, 10:44 PM
females in fishnets.... mmmmmmmmmm :monkey5

Mudshark
12-24-2007, 12:12 AM
Interesting points and observations by all regarding the mesh suit, but I still like the idea it's part of the cloaking field generator. I liked the suggestion that the field is conducted through the Predator's armour and/or clothing, which would take care of the bare spots mentioned. Like the mesh suit is needed to keep the field stabilized and concentrated over the major parts of the Predator's body, and once fully activated, the field is then powerful enough to cloak any bare areas on the limbs, the head, and any hand-held weapons. I also like thinking it has more than one function, like the communicator/detonator/suit control gauntlet does. It's stuff like that which makes the Predator's such fascinating characters.

Jamal
12-24-2007, 07:56 AM
I know for a fact that the net is part of the Predators cloaking field, im gonna have to try and remember now where i came across this information

Mudshark
01-06-2008, 11:30 PM
If you can dig that up again I'd really like to know where you found that info. I seem to have a lurking recollection of reading that somewhere too, but it most likely was some time ago and I don't remember where. Be sure to let us know if you think of it. :cool:

AdamBombOi
01-06-2008, 11:57 PM
I know for a fact it was either mentioned in AVP: Hunter's Planet or AVP: War... both which are novels.

If you want, I'll skim through them and find out which one FOR SURE it is.

Mudshark
01-07-2008, 12:01 AM
I know for a fact it was either mentioned in AVP: Hunter's Planet or AVP: War... both which are novels.

If you want, I'll skim through them and find out which one FOR SURE it is.

That would be great. If you could also post the ISBN and publisher, I'd really appreciate it. Any other recommended titles, too. Thanks, bro! :cool: