View Full Version : CAPTAIN AMERICA....UGH.
Anton Phibes
10-11-2007, 12:52 PM
I know this will sound totally fan boy but I hate it.
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/CapAmerica/newdesign.html
:banghead:pow
tma1c
10-11-2007, 12:55 PM
I know this will sound totally fan boy but I hate it.
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/CapAmerica/newdesign.html
:banghead:pow
I don't like it to much either.
Shadow King
10-11-2007, 12:55 PM
:horror Captain America with a gun?
This is a horrible rebirth of a great character.
Darth Rage
10-11-2007, 12:57 PM
Shiny...:D
Deadly Dagger
10-11-2007, 12:58 PM
I knew capt. was a puss....:monkey1
....this proves it.
Anton Phibes
10-11-2007, 01:20 PM
If this turns out to be anything more than an "Rhodey is The War Machine while Tony suffers through being a drunk, but everything will be okay after this storyline runs its course" kind of thing then it may be time to hit the back issue bins on Wednesdays... and stay away from new issues.:monkey2
insomniac
10-11-2007, 02:06 PM
Don't like it either. Maybe Cap is going to be a new herald of Galactus. :lol
sirrobert
10-11-2007, 02:28 PM
Captain America would never cower before a foreign power, earthbound or alien. Seriously though the suit aint clickin with me.
Bodie The Cursed
10-11-2007, 02:32 PM
once lame... always lame...
El Roranous
10-11-2007, 02:38 PM
once lame... always lame...
:lol:lol:rotfl
Ryanfromindiana
10-11-2007, 02:45 PM
I thought the top pic looked kinda cool, but yeah....I can smell where you guys are coming from....must resist urge to mindlessly approve of any and all tasty Ross art.......
Eli26
10-11-2007, 02:55 PM
Poor flow. I don't like it.
Agent0028
10-11-2007, 03:36 PM
Eh, it's not bad. I'm not a big fan of him having a knife and gun, but that's more because almost anyone can fight with a gun and knife. Being a superhero means fighting in extraordinary ways to me. I wonder if it's Bucky...
The Avengers/Invaders thing sounds pretty cool.
The ill Jedi
10-11-2007, 03:43 PM
It's not Steve Rogers, so it ain't Captain America. :rolleyes:
:horror Captain America with a gun?
This is a horrible rebirth of a great character.
I agree.
The new costume looks nice but the gun needs to go.
SolidLiquidFox
10-11-2007, 03:58 PM
Is this pic from that new Alex Ross series from Dynamite?
http://www.newsarama.com/dynamitenew/Superpowers/Superpowers_t.jpg
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
screamingmetal
10-11-2007, 05:13 PM
The new costume doesn't look terrible. I'm personally not liking the black lower half, make it dark blue possibly with some black accents and perhaps it would balance out better.
And Capt. America with a gun is actually taking the character back to his roots. I have no issue with it at all.
Not bad, but not fantastic either.
You people are all ****ing retarded. :emperor With the exceptions of Ill Jedi and screamingmetal. :rock
This is clearly a political statement, as was the death of Steve Rogers, the idealistic, "Jeffersonian" Captain America, who, clearly, has no place in modern-day America, a country I no longer recognize. Putting in his place a renegade former Soviet assassin (don't ****ing argue, it's Bucky), whose adopted ethics include everything that America supposedly stood against for the entirety of the Cold War, clearly stands as a parable for the foreign affairs policy of our country. He's clearly a tool of tyranny.
This Captain America is a bastardization of the character, true. But he stands firm as the icon of the new American ideal. :( And that makes him brilliant. It's a slap in the face to the war in Iraq, to the gun-loving American society, etc., etc.
Of course, I could be wrong, and he could just be a metaphorical call for armed revolution. But I guess we'll all find out together. :D
SolidLiquidFox
10-11-2007, 05:48 PM
You people are all ****ing retarded. :emperor With the exceptions of Ill Jedi and screamingmetal. :rock
This is clearly a political statement, as was the death of Steve Rogers, the idealistic, "Jeffersonian" Captain America, who, clearly, has no place in modern-day America, a country I no longer recognize. Putting in his place a renegade former Soviet assassin (don't ****ing argue, it's Bucky), whose adopted ethics include everything that America supposedly stood against for the entirety of the Cold War, clearly stands as a parable for the foreign affairs policy of our country. He's clearly a tool of tyranny.
This Captain America is a bastardization of the character, true. But he stands firm as the icon of the new American ideal. :( And that makes him brilliant. It's a slap in the face to the war in Iraq, to the gun-loving American society, etc., etc.
Of course, I could be wrong, and he could just be a metaphorical call for armed revolution. But I guess we'll all find out together. :D
After reading all that now I feel retarded. :monkey1
Oh, don't pretend you weren't retarded before... ;)
Bonehead15
10-11-2007, 05:55 PM
It's not Steve Rogers, so it ain't Captain America.
BINGO!
If this was Steve Rodgers than I'd be quite upset but since it's somebody else it's not that big of a deal.
BINGO!
If this was Steve Rodgers than I'd be quite upset but since it's somebody else it's not that big of a deal.
Word. :rock
Anton Phibes
10-11-2007, 06:08 PM
Dang, Monk...all I said was I didn't like the new Cap costume, and wanted Steve Rogers back. What's so retarded about that? :tap
Darth Rage
10-11-2007, 06:14 PM
Dude I'm not retarded - check my post and check the picture - it's shiny. :D
Dude I'm not retarded - check my post and check the picture - it's shiny. :D
Doh! :duh Sorry, Austin, didn't see you there! :lol
Everyone else, just bear with me. I'm drinking (lotsa) beer and playing Halo 3. My bloodlust is wa-a-a-ay up. :rolleyes: And I just love the direction the Cap comic book is taking. :rock
I agree that there can't be a quick enough return to the status quo in Captain America, including the classic costume and (I hope) the return of Steve Rogers. Here's hoping that the forthcoming Skrull story arc in Mighty Avengers Quarterly (last word added as a joke :rolleyes: ) yields something interesting...
The ill Jedi
10-11-2007, 08:36 PM
You people are all ****ing retarded. :emperor With the exceptions of Ill Jedi and screamingmetal. :rock
:rock :rock :rock :D
The ill Jedi
10-11-2007, 08:38 PM
BINGO!
If this was Steve Rodgers than I'd be quite upset but since it's somebody else it's not that big of a deal.
Yeah, a change like that to an Icon like Cap (Steve Rogers) would not be cool.
King Darkness
10-11-2007, 08:42 PM
Looks like ****y.
The Mike
10-11-2007, 09:29 PM
Isn't really a surprise because Alex Ross created it, remember his Spider-Man film costuming? Its almost exactly the same just with the Captain America scheme. I don't like it but am interested to see if it gets wiped out completely or if his "new" Captain America goes the way of US Agent.
I wish I can drink lotsa alcoholic beverage, play Halo, and still type correctly.
Some people are just gifted I suppose, ....or retarded. :chew
Hecubus
10-12-2007, 12:37 AM
:horror Captain America with a gun?
This is a horrible rebirth of a great character.
They should come out with a new series entitled "[INSERT FAMOUS CHARACTER HERE] With A Gun".... famous superheroes saying "f--- it" to their powers and grabbing a firearm...
I don't even see the need for a shield.
A bullet fly faster than anything, IMO.
And he can just wear a bullet proof vest.
bagelsncheesey
10-12-2007, 05:47 AM
Bring it on, i'll be reading. Anything related to Captain America is cool with me. Something to read :cool:
tma1c
10-12-2007, 10:37 AM
I don't even see the need for a shield.
A bullet fly faster than anything, IMO.
And he can just wear a bullet proof vest.
Captain needs a shield and a gun!
Boba Fett
10-12-2007, 12:40 PM
Meh. Not buying it.
Anton Phibes
10-12-2007, 12:51 PM
Looks like ****y.
You said...****y. :lol:D
MooMooEgg
10-12-2007, 01:11 PM
its definitely bucky...
i've never been a fan of ross' designs (aside from Kingdom Come Superman), and I'm not too fond of this one either... too shiny (and what could ever replace that chainmail-style top of Roger's costume?).
hopefully, this will work out, because the Winter Soldier storyline was really good, and bucky has potential... I just DON'T want Marvel to bring back Rogers... since characters always come back to life in comics, i think not bringing him back will keep his death significant...
The Mike
10-12-2007, 03:40 PM
Its Marvel. He'll be back. I'm just hoping it won't be via 800 clones walking around first.
Agent0028
10-12-2007, 04:07 PM
The idea of them not bringing back Steve Rogers as Captain America sucks. But really I kinda hope they don't. Character deaths would be much more poingant if they actually stayed dead. Ironically at the beginning of Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 17: Clone Saga TPB there is an intro by Gerry Conway talking about how at one time Marvel was known for not bringing dead comic book characters back citing Uncle Ben, Bucky, and Sue and Johnny Storm's father as examples of dead characters who did not return in response to the idea of bringing Gwen Stacey back. Too bad things didn't stay that way.
screamingmetal
10-12-2007, 07:39 PM
Isn't really a surprise because Alex Ross created it, remember his Spider-Man film costuming? Its almost exactly the same just with the Captain America scheme. I don't like it but am interested to see if it gets wiped out completely or if his "new" Captain America goes the way of US Agent.
That's exactly what I thought, I wonder if he noticed. But I will say that I actually liked his Spider-Man costume design.
The idea of them not bringing back Steve Rogers as Captain America sucks. But really I kinda hope they don't. Character deaths would be much more poingant if they actually stayed dead. Ironically at the beginning of Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 17: Clone Saga TPB there is an intro by Gerry Conway talking about how at one time Marvel was known for not bringing dead comic book characters back citing Uncle Ben, Bucky, and Sue and Johnny Storm's father as examples of dead characters who did not return in response to the idea of bringing Gwen Stacey back. Too bad things didn't stay that way.
I agree, In a way it's similar to the argument that Batman is a more interesting character then Superman because he's threatened with more peril because he can't fly or is bulletproof. If a character can so easily comeback to life then once again, where's the peril or meaning to a character's death? Why even kill the character off in the first place; there's really nothing to gain from it other then news headlines and increased sales.
It's why I really wished they kept Colossus Dead, because it turns out that he really didn't sacrifice much anything to cure the Legacy Virus, ending the whole Legacy Virus subplot in a whimper.
SolidLiquidFox
10-13-2007, 10:31 AM
I think Multiple Man died from the legacy virus as well...then came back. That's why Captain America dying was such a lame "story". Nobody believes it will stick for long.
Bardoon
10-14-2007, 09:02 AM
I don't mind the design at all...I do agree with someone who posted before that it just doesn't "flow" as nicely as other designs but it isn't something that I think is outrageous. There have been WORST Cap designs than this... anyone remember his "Armored" Cap outfit? Back when the super-soldier serum was supposedly killing him?
And besides, Ed Brubaker's & Steve Epting's Captain America is one of the BEST written and drawn comics out there right now. This is supposed to be a different Captain America than Steve Rogers (most likely Bucky/Winter Soldier considering how the storyline is going) so why can't the costume reflect that as well?
How many of you are actually reading the comic?
Anton Phibes
10-14-2007, 02:13 PM
And besides, Ed Brubaker's & Steve Epting's Captain America is one of the BEST written and drawn comics out there right now. This is supposed to be a different Captain America than Steve Rogers (most likely Bucky/Winter Soldier considering how the storyline is going) so why can't the costume reflect that as well?
How many of you are actually reading the comic?
I agree that they are doing a stellar job on the story thus far. Yet I also liked the Death of Superman/Doomsday story at DC...but still hated poser Supermen and the real Supes in a black suit...with long hair. I also thought it was ridiculous when he was Superman Blue, Superman Red. I know its a different Cap from Steve. I read the comic. While its well done...there are parts about it I do not like. This costume, gun , knife and different person taking up the mantle are very much like the Death of Supes...or when Johnny Walker was Cap for awhile. Might make for a decent arch...but at the end of the day Steve Rogers is Captain America, in a classic outfit designed by Jack Kirby. Not Alex Ross.
gbeef
10-14-2007, 03:51 PM
Looks ok.. but i dont think its flashy enough?!
May they should put a gaint spinner on captian americas shield... like spinning rims..lol
Anzik
10-14-2007, 07:03 PM
This whole "political statement" is a bunch of crap.
Captain America is the same, the American ideal is still the same, but the American people have lost their way. Too much getting in touch with feelings, and not enough definition of right and wrong.
DarkArtist81
10-14-2007, 07:54 PM
This whole "political statement" is a bunch of crap.
Captain America is the same, the American ideal is still the same, but the American people have lost their way. Too much getting in touch with feelings, and not enough definition of right and wrong.
That's how I feel as well. Captain America stands for what America SHOULD stand for and the values we were created with. Giving him a shiny upper body, a dark lower body... a gun and a knife does not make him more edgy or political at all. It just makes it ridiculous.
I think it's a dumb idea. Some Marvel characters outfits deserve revamps... Iron Man, Thor, Punisher, Fantastic Four... but some like Spidey and Capt America should stay constant. Their costumes are just classic and should never change.
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