Ebay Lot *Heads Up*

[Dassy]

Ebay Orthanc ++++++++ (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/sideshow-weta-huge-lot-L-K_W0QQitemZ6559209827QQcategoryZ69765QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)

Good Luck! (No,not mine),but might be worth a few of our members having a looksie!:grouphug




Scam?:dunno

[Nemo Nint]

Seems like an honest seller considering this:


<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Postage, payment details and return policy
Services available
Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details.
Will arrange for local pickup only (no postage).

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Seller's payment instructions
you must hire a van at your own cost cash on pick up
<hr></blockquote>

[cherno]

Even if he is legit I wouldn't buy from him on bad attitude alone, lack of trying to follow grammatical rules, and a 0 feedback.

"hi first off, this is a pick up auction,!!!!!!!!!you pay on the day and than take your goods,i will not post (it will be to expensive)please dont ask me stupid questions, i'm very busy and it takes me a while to reply."

What a jerk.

Edit: Heh, just thought of something. I should send him a message asking what he thinks are stupid questions, lol

[Dassy]

After reading it thru again,I would take a Cave Troll hammer with you.:thwak

[GTB]

thats a good one, Dassy!

[JSAuctionService]

That person comes across like such a jerk, that I'd be hard-pressed
to put in a bid if they were right across the road from me and
I could just go over and pick up the items.

There is no cause, and no place on Ebay or anywhere else for
that matter for someone to be such a stupid Richard Noggin.

Blatant rudeness/impoliteness reeeeeeeeeeealy bugs me. >:

Would if I could be the HULK for a bit, and do the ol' HULK
SMASH on them, and every single one of their items for sale.
(this is assuming that they even have ANY of the pieces listed)
I for one highly doubt it. Lets tally it up shall we?

Brand new, zero feedback seller
Poor Grammar and a rude @$$hole
NO legit pictures of the items for sale
Poor Grammar and a Rude @$$hole
Doesn't accept paypal
Poor Grammar and a RUDE @$$hole
Won't ship the items anywhere
Poor Grammar and a RUDE @$$HOLE!

Wow! It takes a lot to annoy me, but this person succeeded!
*takes deep breath.....................*

So, were I a cautious chap, I'd avoid this seller at all costs.

Be afraid................be VERY afraid.

:peace

[jesseawilson]

Seriously; I bet this hits a few thousand dollars, then the poor schmuck gets the crap beat out of him and robbed. What a great new scam. Why go out and rob people when you can get them to come to you with thousands of dollars of cash in their hand.


Happened to someone I knew. Went to meet someone he knew on a mess board to buy two guns. They then proceeded to bust out 3 machine guns and robbed them of their money and guns.



Jesse

[JSAuctionService]

I've sent them a question on their auction:

Hello! I'm interested in your lot of statues, and wondered if you'd ship them to the USA. Or ifI could fly over and pick them up, and retrieve them? Do you take personal checks? Do you take Sheckles or Deutchmarks? Where are you located? How long have you owned them? Are they all mint/perfect in original boxes? Are some of the items heavy? Are these new statues or have you had them for a while? Would you please let me know the serial numbers if there are any? Would you please send me pictures of each statue? Front, side, and back would suffice so as not to be too much trouble. What is a Sammael Statue? I've seen the LOTR movies before, and I don't recall any Sammael? Samwise perhaps? Saruman? Sauron? Perhaps a typo. Any other items you have to sell? Will you accept paypal so I can get you your money quickly? Would you accept a credit card payment? Are you a new seller? Have you advertised these locally? I'd hate to have the auction ended early. Please reply ASAP. :-)

[noelchiew]

seller said the sammael statue will be given free, he put it under update so i assume it wasnt stated like that in the first place? do you really not know what the sammael statue is? it's from the movie hellboy, the seller didnt say that this statue is from the lotr movie.

here's how it looks like
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/8909_image03.jpg

[elwood49]

do you really not know what the sammael statue is? it's from the movie hellboy, the seller didnt say that this statue is from the lotr movie.

You might want to put some more batteries in your sarcasm detector.

[cherno]

Well I did send him the question and he actually gave a real response...****, that's no fun :(

My question:
"Can you tell me what stupid questions are so I can be sure to avoid sending them?"

His response:
"can i pay with paypal,will you post to where i live,can you deliver.......ect"

[GTB]

Oh no!! that must be the first known LOTR related crime committed since 1954 after Tolkien wrote the book....

[Lookin4Precious]

Well I did send him the question and he actually gave a real response...****, that's no fun

My question:
"Can you tell me what stupid questions are so I can be sure to avoid sending them?"

His response:
"can i pay with paypal,will you post to where i live,can you deliver.......ect"

OMFG!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!! That is Grrrrrr-eat! What an idiot.

[Winged Shadows]

From that reply you can't tell who the seller is and who the prospective buyer!

:lol

[JSAuctionService]

My response received back:

SAMMAEL IS FROM HELLBOY.ITS UK ONLY AUCTION,IT SAYS SO.ALSO NO PAYPAL,SORRY,BUT YOU CAN GET THESE IN US ,WHY WOULD YOU WASTE SO MUCH MONEY IN POSTAGE OR TO FLY HERE,DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.

[Dassy]

also if on pick there are more statues they will not be charged.they are in london at my parents adresse


If there are more?,What he does not know????????

:rollin

[Nemo Nint]

Most of you have succeeded in confusing me, because I see nothing wrong at all with this auction!
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In all seriousness- I think most everyone is overreacting to this.

I'm posting this post to voice my opinion only because this is a rare example of where I see something as being totally normal and regular posters on the board are going way overboard and attacking it.

I've become less tolerant of abuse recently.

Of course, as is my usual way of being, if someone can thoroughly explain to my opposing perspective why you're all taking the positions you are, I may find I agree!
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[Dassy]

I think most everyone is overreacting to this

regular posters on the board are going way overboard and attacking it

From all the replies to the original post,most if not all are in mock of the way the auction has been put.

:rollin :rollin :rollin

Where is the `Attack`??

Christ can nothing be posted anymore!:peace

[JSAuctionService]

Nemo,

My aggrivation with this auction, is that it has ALL of the telltale
signs of being a scammer. I haven't been as active in my "polite avenging"
as of late, but this one just hit a nerve for some reason.

I may be wrong, but I'll always be cautious of an auction that
is from a new seller with 0 or low feedback, doesn't show any
pictures of the items for sale, doesn't take paypal, and can't
even string two paragraphs together without typographical errors.

If somebody wins it and it turns out to be real, great!
But I wouldn't bet any amount of money on it.

[Nemo Nint]

That's fine, I just think that there is nothing out of the ordinary with the auction, and that's considering all the points JS. The language is not really rude unless you're being sensitive (or something like the lack of paypal sets you off initially). Well, I only say that because I wasn't sensitive enough to get annoyed at all by it, but reading the thread with the same insensitivity, I was quite annoyed. It was that unbalance that set me off (among other things).

I'd like to see someone who is near the seller actually go to the seller's house BEFORE the auction and inspect. Now if only someone on the board was local to this guy!

I would definitely bid on this if I could afford to compete, and lived nearby.

I just emailed the seller, lets see what he says.

[cherno]

Nemo, what would happen if you walked into your local department store, went up to the counter and before you could say anything, the person said "Don't ask me any stupid questions, I'm busy and don't have the time"

I don't think there is a sensitivity issue here at all. The person has not provided a whole lot of details to make someone feel comfortable buying from them, despite his attempts with abundant use of exclamation marks and lowercase letters. He has 0 feedback and is selling a lot of stuff that he would certainly expect to get a lot of money for.

Ebay is a very casual place to sell things, but there is a matter of courtesy that people on the internet seem to forget. Ask any professional seller on ebay and they would point out countless things that this person is doing wrong as a seller.

I don't know if it is a legit auction or not, don't really care, that's not my issue. If he can't be bothered to forego all the "stupid" questions by providing a meaningful auction, he doesn't deserve anyone's business.

[Nemo Nint]

I'm shortly going to stop defending this auction because it takes time to do so, and I'm not affiliated so this is mostly a waste of my time but just for the record that I'm not off my rocker, I will respond now with how I percieved this-

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Ask any professional seller on ebay and they would point out countless things that this person is doing wrong as a seller.<hr></blockquote>

The nature of this guy's sales appear to me to be a one-time thing. It looks a bit curious, but my initial thought is that this guy either has decided on the spur of the moment he doesn't want his starwars and lord of the rings collections anymore. I had another idea just at the moment, but it's disconnected for the most part from this- maybe these were ripped off someone else and the guy is pawning them on ebay.
That could make sense but that's not the issue.

When I read the lot auction listing through the first time I think I probably caught the stupid questions remark but I didn't think of it the way obviously most everyone else posting in this thread had- my perception was not like some store clerk telling me "dont' bother asking me stupid questions" which REALLY would infuriate me (and now I see most of your points of view) but the way I read it was "please dont' ask questions that are a waste of both our time".

I don't usually think of stupid questions to ask, but I bet there are a thousand out there like "are you near los angeles?" or "what kind of truck do I need to pick those up?" or "can I get them all gift wrapped?"
Yes stupid questions exist. I don't think the point of refering to "stupid" questions as any question, but anyone who doesn't read the whole listing, which is actually conveniently short, unlike some listings for sideshow merchandice that go on and on and on.

So I guess what this boils down to is a person who was a little unprepared for his first attempt at selling, and using what I would consider "non-user-friendly" language. That's it... I've gotten used to seeing the "unoffensive" angle in communications.. I guess so that I can avoid getting offended.

Rant away fellows and fellinas.

if the guy replies, I'll post my message and his response in this thread.
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[Diesel]

i don't see the issue with this auction at all...

he clearly states his demands, and that's it... he doesn't want you asking dumb *** questions... he obviously laid out his demands...

how can a pickup be a scam...? just go with some "protection"...

you guys are such tools at times... especially JS... why you have to be a smart *** and email him about shipping, when you damn well know you have no interest in his goods...

grow up... :thwak

[Bodie The Cursed]

If its a pick-up auction I don't see the possibility of a scam.:doh

[JSAuctionService]

you guys are such tools at times... especially JS...

Been a while there Diesel, but you can f___ o___ there fella.

Fly Over?
Fry Orangutans?
Flip Oranges?
Flatulate Offusely?

:dunno

This auction has ALL the earmarks of being a scam, so if you feel
so confident in it, just bid away and go pick up your merchandise.
I'd love to hear the outcome.

And Dax - if you win, be careful my friend. If you go there,
I'd have several friends accompany you, and take whatever
measures are necessary for protection. Play it safe on this.

[jlcmsu]

Looking at this auction late last night the first thing I thought was why did someone steal Smaugs pic of Orthanc. The pic may not be but it sure looks like the one he had when he sold his Orthanc. However, since its a pick up auction I would say its got a decent chance of being legit. I wouldn't pay till I came to get and checked each item and like JS said I would actually bring a couple people along just to cover me ***.

[elwood49]

This auction may or may not be a scam, but a way to be 100% safe about it would be to:

1. Bring several people with you for security (say they're helping you load the boxes).

2. Suggest that you make the exchange in a safe place that is out in public.

3. Bring a cashier's check and avoid cash.

[jlcmsu]

Yup, I think those would pretty much cover your ***.

[Jesseawilson]

Well it looks like Dax picked these up. If it all works out it's a good deal as well, at least $1500 under current market value.


BTW I know we have mentioned this before, but love when we get into a discussion about something or someone they miraculously get sent a link to the conversation. What good is trying to make people aware of a POSSIBLE auction to be wary of of some little mole runs off and warns the POSSIBLE scammer that there is this place of people that look out for this type of stuff. Don't give any BS about having the right to defend themselvs either. This isn't a court of law, the're not going to get the death penalty, we're just a group of collectors trying to look out for eachother.




Jesse

[Winged Shadows]

I'm not sure if someone did inform the seller of this forum (and it looks like his coming here and posting has convinced another one of our members of a reason to bid), however I am pretty much certain that.. people who collect and sell these items would know of this forum and would at least be in lurk mode to begin with.